Subject: [WPTA] Front Springs and Shocks

From: Kevin Dadey via Wpta <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:38:34 +0000 (UTC)

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Hello again,
Thanks all for help on my previous issue with the leaky differential.=C2=A0
Now I need your expert advice about the front suspension for my 1976 Spitfi=
re. I was advised soon after purchasing this car in 2018, that shorter fron=
t springs would help lower the nose of my car. It bothered me considerably =
until last year when I started to address the issue. First I purchased the =
shorter springs and a new set of stock shocks from Moss. I did not feel con=
fident doing this job myself, nor did my friend, Jeff, "The Triumph Whisper=
er", who regularly assists me with my Spitfire projects. So, our local and =
very trustworthy mechanic said he'd do the work. The initial result was tha=
t the car sat far too low. He advised me to get a set of adjustable shocks.=
 He installed them also but again I was bottoming out on our lovely Pittsbu=
rgh area roads. I took it back for adjustment. The result is shown in the p=
hotos - Springs 1a and Springs 1b. Now the ride was very hard and the car w=
ould regularly make a bang sound when driving over a small ridge or hole in=
 the pavement.=C2=A0
Next, I posted these 2 photos on Facebook. Maybe some of you saw them. Of c=
ourse there was unanimous criticism of my mechanic's work. Some even said t=
hat these new, shorter springs are shot. Probably junk in the first place. =
The advice what to do next is a bit varied. Some said just adjust the shock=
s creating more space between the coils. The other photo shows this setup u=
sing Gaz shocks also. I've been advised by one of those Facebook commenters=
 also to purchase stock springs since the shorter ones were for earlier and=
 lighter cars. I'd like to know what you think. I'm certainly prepared to p=
urchase the correct set of springs but I'm hoping that these new Gaz shocks=
 can still be used.
Thank you again.
Kevin=C2=A0

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tial.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Now I need your expert advice about the fron=
t suspension for my 1976 Spitfire. I was advised soon after purchasing this=
 car in 2018, that shorter front springs would help lower the nose of my ca=
r. It bothered me considerably until last year when I started to address th=
e issue. First I purchased the shorter springs and a new set of stock shock=
s from Moss. I did not feel confident doing this job myself, nor did my fri=
end, Jeff, "The Triumph Whisperer", who regularly assists me with my Spitfi=
re projects. So, our local and very trustworthy mechanic said he'd do the w=
ork. The initial result was that the car sat far too low. He advised me to =
get a set of adjustable shocks. He installed them also but again I was bott=
oming out on our lovely Pittsburgh area roads. I took it back for adjustmen=
t. The result is shown in the photos - Springs 1a and Springs 1b. Now the r=
ide was very hard and the car would regularly make a bang sound when drivin=
g over a small ridge or hole in the pavement.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr" d=
ata-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Next,=
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 there was unanimous criticism of my mechanic's work. Some even said that t=
hese new, shorter springs are shot. Probably junk in the first place. The a=
dvice what to do next is a bit varied. Some said just adjust the shocks cre=
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Gaz shocks also. I've been advised by one of those Facebook commenters also=
 to purchase stock springs since the shorter ones were for earlier and ligh=
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From: Larry Ross via Wpta <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:29:08 -0400

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Kevin -

I have the springs on my Spitfire from an earlier era (1970) and have not
had a problem. I have adjustable shocks set at Full Soft.

The earlier springs lowered the nose back down to pre-1974 ride height.
Triumph put a larger spring on the front to raise the ride height to meet
Federal Ride Height Standards.

The internet (Facebook in particular) is generally a wealth of
misinformation.

Have you looked at the Triumph Experience Forum and/or the Spitfire and GT6
webpage?

Within the WPTA, you have a wealth of knowledge in one Gary Fredo who has
had numerous Spitfires over the years. Gary and I both worked on your
Spitfire sometime in 2018.

Let me look thru my notes, and I will follow up with you on the shocks that
I installed on my Spitfire.

Give me a day or two.

Larry Ross
(412) 780-8495 - mobile

On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 1:53=E2=80=AFPM Kevin Dadey via Wpta <[email-masked]=
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wrote:

> Hello again,
>
> Thanks all for help on my previous issue with the leaky differential.
>
> Now I need your expert advice about the front suspension for my 1976
> Spitfire. I was advised soon after purchasing this car in 2018, that
> shorter front springs would help lower the nose of my car. It bothered me
> considerably until last year when I started to address the issue. First I
> purchased the shorter springs and a new set of stock shocks from Moss. I
> did not feel confident doing this job myself, nor did my friend, Jeff, "T=
he
> Triumph Whisperer", who regularly assists me with my Spitfire projects. S=
o,
> our local and very trustworthy mechanic said he'd do the work. The initia=
l
> result was that the car sat far too low. He advised me to get a set of
> adjustable shocks. He installed them also but again I was bottoming out o=
n
> our lovely Pittsburgh area roads. I took it back for adjustment. The resu=
lt
> is shown in the photos - Springs 1a and Springs 1b. Now the ride was very
> hard and the car would regularly make a bang sound when driving over a
> small ridge or hole in the pavement.
>
> Next, I posted these 2 photos on Facebook. Maybe some of you saw them. Of
> course there was unanimous criticism of my mechanic's work. Some even sai=
d
> that these new, shorter springs are shot. Probably junk in the first plac=
e.
> The advice what to do next is a bit varied. Some said just adjust the
> shocks creating more space between the coils. The other photo shows this
> setup using Gaz shocks also. I've been advised by one of those Facebook
> commenters also to purchase stock springs since the shorter ones were for
> earlier and lighter cars. I'd like to know what you think. I'm certainly
> prepared to purchase the correct set of springs but I'm hoping that these
> new Gaz shocks can still be used.
>
> Thank you again.
>
> Kevin
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div>Kevin -</div><div><br></div><div>I have the sprin=
gs on my Spitfire from an earlier era (1970) and have not had a problem. I =
have adjustable shocks set at Full Soft.</div><div><br></div><div>The earli=
er springs lowered the nose back down to pre-1974 ride height. Triumph put =
a larger spring on the front to raise the ride height to meet Federal Ride =
Height Standards.</div><div><br></div><div>The internet (Facebook in partic=
ular) is generally a wealth of misinformation.</div><div><br></div><div>Hav=
e you looked at the Triumph Experience Forum and/or the Spitfire and GT6 we=
bpage?</div><div><br></div><div>Within the WPTA, you have a wealth of knowl=
edge in one Gary Fredo who has had numerous Spitfires over the years. Gary =
and I both worked on your Spitfire sometime in 2018.</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>Let me look thru my notes, and I will follow up with you on the shocks t=
hat I installed on my Spitfire.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Give me a da=
y or two.</div><div><br></div><div>Larry Ross</div><div>(412) 780-8495 - mo=
bile</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 =
at 1:53=E2=80=AFPM Kevin Dadey via Wpta &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
am.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gm=
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Hello again,</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks =
all for help on my previous issue with the leaky differential.=C2=A0</div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Now I need your expert advice ab=
out the front suspension for my 1976 Spitfire. I was advised soon after pur=
chasing this car in 2018, that shorter front springs would help lower the n=
ose of my car. It bothered me considerably until last year when I started t=
o address the issue. First I purchased the shorter springs and a new set of=
 stock shocks from Moss. I did not feel confident doing this job myself, no=
r did my friend, Jeff, &quot;The Triumph Whisperer&quot;, who regularly ass=
ists me with my Spitfire projects. So, our local and very trustworthy mecha=
nic said he&#39;d do the work. The initial result was that the car sat far =
too low. He advised me to get a set of adjustable shocks. He installed them=
 also but again I was bottoming out on our lovely Pittsburgh area roads. I =
took it back for adjustment. The result is shown in the photos - Springs 1a=
 and Springs 1b. Now the ride was very hard and the car would regularly mak=
e a bang sound when driving over a small ridge or hole in the pavement.=C2=
=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Next, I posted these 2=
 photos on Facebook. Maybe some of you saw them. Of course there was unanim=
ous criticism of my mechanic&#39;s work. Some even said that these new, sho=
rter springs are shot. Probably junk in the first place. The advice what to=
 do next is a bit varied. Some said just adjust the shocks creating more sp=
ace between the coils. The other photo shows this setup using Gaz shocks al=
so. I&#39;ve been advised by one of those Facebook commenters also to purch=
ase stock springs since the shorter ones were for earlier and lighter cars.=
 I&#39;d like to know what you think. I&#39;m certainly prepared to purchas=
e the correct set of springs but I&#39;m hoping that these new Gaz shocks c=
an still be used.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thank yo=
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From: Larry Ross via Wpta <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:43:09 -0400

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Kevin -

I have SPAX adjustable shocks on my Spitfire.

Larry Ross

On Wed, Oct 2, 2024, 5:29=E2=80=AFPM Larry Ross <[email-masked]> wro=
te:

> Have you looked at the Triumph Experience Forum and/or the Spitfire and
> GT6 webpage?
>
> Let me look thru my notes, and I will follow up with you on the shocks
> that I installed on my Spitfire.
>
> Give me a day or two.
>
> Larry Ross
> (412) 780-8495 - mobile
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 1:53=E2=80=AFPM Kevin Dadey via Wpta <[email-masked]=
eam.net>
>> shorter front springs would help lower the nose of my car. It bothered m=
e
>> considerably until last year when I started to address the issue. First =
I
>> did not feel confident doing this job myself, nor did my friend, Jeff, "=
The
>> Triumph Whisperer", who regularly assists me with my Spitfire projects. =
So,
>> our local and very trustworthy mechanic said he'd do the work. The initi=
al
>> adjustable shocks. He installed them also but again I was bottoming out =
on
>> our lovely Pittsburgh area roads. I took it back for adjustment. The res=
ult
>> is shown in the photos - Springs 1a and Springs 1b. Now the ride was ver=
y
>> Next, I posted these 2 photos on Facebook. Maybe some of you saw them. O=
f
>> course there was unanimous criticism of my mechanic's work. Some even sa=
id
>> that these new, shorter springs are shot. Probably junk in the first pla=
ce.
>> commenters also to purchase stock springs since the shorter ones were fo=
r
>> prepared to purchase the correct set of springs but I'm hoping that thes=
e
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<p dir=3D"ltr">Kevin - </p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">I have SPAX adjustable shocks on my Spitfire.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Larry Ross<br>
</p>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed=
, Oct 2, 2024, 5:29=E2=80=AFPM Larry Ross &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:larryross67=
@gmail.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div>Kevin -</div><div><br></div><div>I =
have the springs on my Spitfire from an earlier era (1970) and have not had=
 a problem. I have adjustable shocks set at Full Soft.</div><div><br></div>=
<div>The earlier springs lowered the nose back down to pre-1974 ride height=
. Triumph put a larger spring on the front to raise the ride height to meet=
 Federal Ride Height Standards.</div><div><br></div><div>The internet (Face=
book in particular) is generally a wealth of misinformation.</div><div><br>=
</div><div>Have you looked at the Triumph Experience Forum and/or the Spitf=
ire and GT6 webpage?</div><div><br></div><div>Within the WPTA, you have a w=
ealth of knowledge in one Gary Fredo who has had numerous Spitfires over th=
e years. Gary and I both worked on your Spitfire sometime in 2018.</div><di=
v><br></div><div>Let me look thru my notes, and I will follow up with you o=
n the shocks that I installed on my Spitfire.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><di=
v>Give me a day or two.</div><div><br></div><div>Larry Ross</div><div>(412)=
 780-8495 - mobile</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div>=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed=
, Oct 2, 2024 at 1:53=E2=80=AFPM Kevin Dadey via Wpta &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
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x"><div><div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Aria=
l,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hello again,</div></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks all for help on my previ=
ous issue with the leaky differential.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">Now I need your expert advice about the front suspension=
 for my 1976 Spitfire. I was advised soon after purchasing this car in 2018=
, that shorter front springs would help lower the nose of my car. It bother=
ed me considerably until last year when I started to address the issue. Fir=
st I purchased the shorter springs and a new set of stock shocks from Moss.=
 I did not feel confident doing this job myself, nor did my friend, Jeff, &=
quot;The Triumph Whisperer&quot;, who regularly assists me with my Spitfire=
 projects. So, our local and very trustworthy mechanic said he&#39;d do the=
 work. The initial result was that the car sat far too low. He advised me t=
o get a set of adjustable shocks. He installed them also but again I was bo=
ttoming out on our lovely Pittsburgh area roads. I took it back for adjustm=
ent. The result is shown in the photos - Springs 1a and Springs 1b. Now the=
 ride was very hard and the car would regularly make a bang sound when driv=
ing over a small ridge or hole in the pavement.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Next, I posted these 2 photos on Facebook. Mayb=
e some of you saw them. Of course there was unanimous criticism of my mecha=
nic&#39;s work. Some even said that these new, shorter springs are shot. Pr=
obably junk in the first place. The advice what to do next is a bit varied.=
 Some said just adjust the shocks creating more space between the coils. Th=
e other photo shows this setup using Gaz shocks also. I&#39;ve been advised=
 by one of those Facebook commenters also to purchase stock springs since t=
he shorter ones were for earlier and lighter cars. I&#39;d like to know wha=
t you think. I&#39;m certainly prepared to purchase the correct set of spri=
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 Hey Kevin.=C2=A0 First of all, for the most part, shocks won't increase or=
 lower the ride height of the car.=C2=A0 The purpose of shocks is to dampen=
 the ride.=C2=A0 So stiffer shocks make the ride harder but can also improv=
e the handling of the car.=C2=A0 One exception to this are air shocks and t=
here may be a few others that I'm not thinking of.=C2=A0 Are the Gaz shocks=
, performance shocks?=C2=A0 That will add to the stiffness of the ride.=C2=
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What is going on in photo #3?=C2=A0 The spring is completely compressed.=C2=
=A0 That is definitely incorrect.=C2=A0 You should have approximately 2 inc=
hes from the bottom of the shock tube to the bottom of the lower perch that=
 the spring rides on.=C2=A0 It looks like the distance on your shocks are l=
onger based on photo #2 which could be causing the issue.=C2=A0=C2=A0
I'm guessing that there is a difference between Moss "shorter springs" and =
the factory springs as used on the earlier 1500 Spitfires when the ride hei=
ght was lower.=C2=A0 The Moss "shorter springs" may be performance springs =
that are intended to lower the car and make it much stiffer.=C2=A0 I'm pret=
ty sure Moss has a tech line that you can call and ask them if those spring=
s were correct for what you are trying to do.=C2=A0 I'm guessing that the=
=C2=A0Moss "shorter springs" are adding to the stiffness of your ride.
You may need to do more research but you may find out that both the springs=
 and shocks will need to be replaced to accomplish the ride height and stif=
fness that you are trying to get to.=C2=A0 I'm using stock springs out of a=
 73 Spitfire and Spax adjustable shocks on my 76 Spitfire but I prefer a ha=
rsher ride and better handling.
Feel free to call me 724-378-9610 if you want to talk about it in more deta=
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<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydpb3fafa1byahoo-style-wrap" style=
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Hey Kevin.&nbsp; First of al=
l, for the most part, shocks won't increase or lower the ride height of the=
 car.&nbsp; The purpose of shocks is to dampen the ride.&nbsp; So stiffer s=
hocks make the ride harder but can also improve the handling of the car.&nb=
sp; One exception to this are air shocks and there may be a few others that=
 I'm not thinking of.&nbsp; Are the Gaz shocks, performance shocks?&nbsp; T=
hat will add to the stiffness of the ride.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr=
" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Wh=
at is going on in photo #3?&nbsp; The spring is completely compressed.&nbsp=
; That is definitely incorrect.&nbsp; You should have approximately 2 inche=
s from the bottom of the shock tube to the bottom of the lower perch that t=
he spring rides on.&nbsp; It looks like the distance on your shocks are lon=
ger based on photo #2 which could be causing the issue.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=
=3D"false">I'm guessing that there is a difference between Moss "shorter sp=
rings" and the factory springs as used on the earlier 1500 Spitfires when t=
he ride height was lower.&nbsp; The Moss "shorter springs" may be performan=
ce springs that are intended to lower the car and make it much stiffer.&nbs=
p; I'm pretty sure Moss has a tech line that you can call and ask them if t=
hose springs were correct for what you are trying to do.&nbsp; I'm guessing=
 that the&nbsp;<span><span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helve=
tica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Moss "shorter sp=
rings" are adding to the stiffness of your ride.</span></span></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><span><span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); f=
ont-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"=
><br></span></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">You may nee=
d to do more research but you may find out that both the springs and shocks=
 will need to be replaced to accomplish the ride height and stiffness that =
you are trying to get to.&nbsp; I'm using stock springs out of a 73 Spitfir=
e and Spax adjustable shocks on my 76 Spitfire but I prefer a harsher ride =
and better handling.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Feel free to call me 724-378-9610 if=
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gs are shot. Probably junk in the first place. The advice what to do next i=
s a bit varied. Some said just adjust the shocks creating more space betwee=
n the coils. The other photo shows this setup using Gaz shocks also. I've b=
een advised by one of those Facebook commenters also to purchase stock spri=
ngs since the shorter ones were for earlier and lighter cars. I'd like to k=
now what you think. I'm certainly prepared to purchase the correct set of s=
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First of all I don't know a lot about Spitfires but do know a little about coilovers.   Gary is correct that shocks don't normally effect ride height.   But with the coilover pictured the ride height is adjustable.   It appears that in the last photo, the mechanic adjusted the nut up to raise the ride height but this also collapsed the spring.   What you are getting now is called coil clash where the spring collapses fully and becomes solid.   I would venture to say that the shocks would be fine but need matched to the correct spring length and rate.  Can't help you there. 

> On 10/02/2024 1:38 PM EDT Kevin Dadey via Wpta <[email-masked]> wrote:
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>  
> Hello again,
>  
> Now I need your expert advice about the front suspension for my 1976 Spitfire. I was advised soon after purchasing this car in 2018, that shorter front springs would help lower the nose of my car. It bothered me considerably until last year when I started to address the issue. First I purchased the shorter springs and a new set of stock shocks from Moss. I did not feel confident doing this job myself, nor did my friend, Jeff, "The Triumph Whisperer", who regularly assists me with my Spitfire projects. So, our local and very trustworthy mechanic said he'd do the work. The initial result was that the car sat far too low. He advised me to get a set of adjustable shocks. He installed them also but again I was bottoming out on our lovely Pittsburgh area roads. I took it back for adjustment. The result is shown in the photos - Springs 1a and Springs 1b. Now the ride was very hard and the car would regularly make a bang sound when driving over a small ridge or hole in the pavement. 
>  
> Next, I posted these 2 photos on Facebook. Maybe some of you saw them. Of course there was unanimous criticism of my mechanic's work. Some even said that these new, shorter springs are shot. Probably junk in the first place. The advice what to do next is a bit varied. Some said just adjust the shocks creating more space between the coils. The other photo shows this setup using Gaz shocks also. I've been advised by one of those Facebook commenters also to purchase stock springs since the shorter ones were for earlier and lighter cars. I'd like to know what you think. I'm certainly prepared to purchase the correct set of springs but I'm hoping that these new Gaz shocks can still be used.
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>  
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