Subject: Re: [WPTA] 1977 Triumph Spitfire gas flap obstruction

From: barrym56--- via Wpta <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2024 07:06:58 -0400

My local Amocco just installed them. Those things are a pain in the ass.

> On Jul 22, 2024, at 6:52 AM, Tim Prell via Wpta <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> My 1977 Spitfire has a factory gas flap in the fuel inlet neck that I've read was originally intended to help ensure the correct gas nozzle was used for the model. Today it obstructs the new style pressure sensing fuel nozzles from entering far enough to open the flap, and therefore spills gas all over the rear deck. One of my two local choices for non-ethanol fuel (Sheetz in Butler) converted to the new style recently and is a problem now.
> 
> My question is whether anyone has removed the fuel neck from a later model Spitfire and can it be done easily and safely without removing the entire tank? I need to get rid of this obstruction as there are fewer of the old style fuel pump nozzles every day and I don't want to use a screw driver or goofy funnel every time I fill the tank.
> 
> Appreciate your responses (please hold the sarcasm)!
> 
> thanks,
> Tim
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From: Gary Fredo via Wpta <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2024 12:57:21 +0000 (UTC)

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 Tim,
Short answer: yes
Long answer:=C2=A0 Do you have a Bentley repair manual?=C2=A0 The direction=
s for removing the fuel cap are in the "Fuel System" section of the book.=
=C2=A0 In particular you want to look at section 19.40.19.=C2=A0 Honestly, =
I didn't know that they had done that to the filler caps but I guess that m=
akes sense as every other car sold in the leaded vs nonleaded era had the s=
maller filler holes.=C2=A0 My 76 was probably already converted when I boug=
ht it.=C2=A0 You can probably get a early used filler cap from Scott Harper=
 if you can't find one new.=C2=A0 I think TRF used to stock the early fille=
r caps.=C2=A0 I'm not aware of any issues with converting to the early cap =
but, then again, I've never done it.
Gary
    On Monday, July 22, 2024 at 07:02:58 AM EDT, Tim Prell via Wpta <wpta@a=
utox.team.net> wrote: =20
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 My 1977 Spitfire has a factory gas flap in the fuel inlet neck that I've r=
ead was originally intended to help ensure the correct gas nozzle was used =
for the model. Today it obstructs the new style pressure sensing fuel nozzl=
es from entering far enough to open the flap, and therefore spills gas all =
over the rear deck. One of my two local choices for non-ethanol fuel (Sheet=
z in Butler) converted to the new style recently and is a problem now.
My question is whether anyone has removed the fuel neck from a later model =
Spitfire and can it be done easily and safely without removing the entire t=
ank? I need to get rid of this obstruction as there are fewer of the old st=
yle fuel pump nozzles every day and I don't want to use a screw driver=C2=
=A0or goofy funnel every time I fill the tank.
Appreciate your responses (please hold the sarcasm)!
thanks,Tim_______________________________________________
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air manual?&nbsp; The directions for removing the fuel cap are in the "Fuel=
 System" section of the book.&nbsp; In particular you want to look at secti=
on 19.40.19.&nbsp; Honestly, I didn't know that they had done that to the f=
iller caps but I guess that makes sense as every other car sold in the lead=
ed vs nonleaded era had the smaller filler holes.&nbsp; My 76 was probably =
already converted when I bought it.&nbsp; You can probably get a early used=
 filler cap from Scott Harper if you can't find one new.&nbsp; I think TRF =
used to stock the early filler caps.&nbsp; I'm not aware of any issues with=
 converting to the early cap but, then again, I've never done it.</div><div=
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My 1977 Spitfire has a factory gas flap in the fuel inlet neck that I've re=
ad was originally intended to help ensure the correct gas nozzle was used f=
or the model. Today it obstructs the new style pressure sensing fuel nozzle=
s from entering far enough to open the flap, and therefore spills gas all o=
ver the rear deck. One of my two local choices for non-ethanol fuel (Sheetz=
 in Butler) converted to the new style recently and is a problem now.<div><=
br></div><div>My question is whether anyone has removed the fuel neck from =
a later model Spitfire and can it be done easily and safely without removin=
g the entire tank? I need to get rid of this obstruction as there are fewer=
 of the old style fuel pump nozzles every day and I don't want to use a scr=
ew driver&nbsp;or goofy funnel every time I fill the tank.</div><div><br></=
div><div>Appreciate your responses (please hold the sarcasm)!</div><div><br=
></div><div>thanks,</div><div>Tim</div></div>
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