Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting

From: Joe Stout via Wpta <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 14:33:44 -0500

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Go and download the latest MV 11 - photos are no longer required.

J

On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 2:28 PM Kevin Dadey via Wpta <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Since we are talking about Antique plates, I have a question. I'm plannin=
g
> to apply for Antique plates and noted the MV-11 form mentions 4 prequired
> photos - one from each side and front and back. Obviously.
> It also states if the car is convertible, the top must be up. Ugh. I have
> a top which has been removed and requires some fittings and is likely to =
be
> a bit of a struggle. I don't really plan to use it. Really needs replaced
> but I'd rather spend money on other more pressing needs. Also the previou=
s
> owner replaced the exhaust with a 2-pipe, 4-tipped Monza. Has anyone had
> trouble with approval because of photos other than Bill, or a modified
> exhaust?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Kevin
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 28, 2019, 12:20:51 PM EST, Ross, Lawrence via Wpta <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
> OK Kiddies -
>
>
>
> Being in the Risk Management Business, there is NO stipulation that limit=
s
> driving during night hours on any of the following plates:
>
>
>
>     1) Antique
>
>
>
>     2) Historic
>
>
>
>     3) Classic
>
>
>
> The "official recommendation" is that you do not drive after dark on due
> to the lack of "lighting technology".
>
>
>
> However, it is NOT illegal to drive after dark.
>
>
>
> Larry Ross
>
>
> *Lawrence Ross Agency*
> *67 Old Clairton Rd.*
> *Pittsburgh, PA. 15236*
> *(412) 655-9990 - office*
> *(412) 780-8495 - cell*
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Wpta [[email-masked]] on behalf of rroenigk--- via
> Wpta [[email-masked]]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 28, 2019 8:27 AM
> *To:* [email-masked]
> *Cc:* [email-masked]
> *Subject:* [External] Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting
>
> Bill. I agree on PENNDOT staff not knowing or adding their two cents
>
> They scary part is our insurance companies use a =E2=80=9C loophole =E2=
=80=9C to avoid
> coverage
>
> I=E2=80=99m going to try to get clarification from PENNDOT
>
> Thx
>
> Rich R
>
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> On Monday, January 28, 2019, [email-masked] <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> Believe what you want, Rich.
>
> Penndot is so random that you are likely to get any answer on any given
> day depending on who you talk to.
>
> Back when photos were required, I had applications bounced because of:
>
> -a person sitting in the car
> -front window was down
> -license plate visible and "was not original to the car"
>
> I actually resubmitted the photos with the person in the car to see what
> would happen, and a week later I got my plate. Go figure.
>
> If you can find in writing within the vehicle code that antique plates ar=
e
> not valid after dark, please let us know what section.
>
> I did up a 1941 Ford in the mid 1980's. I had a good friend who was a
> State Trooper at the time who ran it up his chain of command.  "If you wa=
nt
> to drive legally after dark, make sure you have two taillights, turn
> signals, and sealed beam headlights". That was good enough for me.
>
> Or just go with Classic and keep going in for inspections each year.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rroenigk <[email-masked]>
> To: xj61975 <[email-masked]>
> Cc: jstout310 <[email-masked]>; wpta <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2019 7:45 am
> Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting
>
> Bill.  I had a friend went to PENNDOT last week
>
> The lady on desk told her that was difference between plates
>
> And insurance company may not insure you
>
> You would think they know
>
>
> Would like to get in writing from PENNDOT
>
> Thx
>
> Rich R
>
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> On Sunday, January 27, 2019, [email-masked] <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> Even before any recent changes, there is no restriction to drive an
> antique registered car in PA after dark as long as you lighting meets
> current standards. This has been true for at least the last 25 years if n=
ot
> longer. Many people do not understand this and stick with Classic plates.
>
> Bill Cooper
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Stout via Wpta <[email-masked]>
> To: rroenigk <[email-masked]>
> Cc: wpta <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2019 9:10 pm
> Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting
>
>
> I looked into the after dark driving in PA in the past, and this statemen=
t
> "used" to be there....
>
> *Antique vehicles operated exclusively between sunrise and sunset are
> exempt from the normal lighting *
> *requirements of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, but must have their
> original lighting equipment.  *
>
> It looks that that statement has now even been removed from the code, as =
I
> am unable to find
> it anyplace on PennDot documents...
>
> Here is what I think is the current document that mentions nothing about
> driving after dark..
>
>   *USE OF ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND VINTAGE REGISTRATION PLATES The use of
> antique, classic and vintage registration plates is governed by Section
> 1340 of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, which states: =E2=80=9CIt is unlaw=
ful for
> any person to operate a motorcycle or vehicle with antique, classic or
> vintage registration plates for general daily transportation. Permitted u=
se
> shall be limited to participation in club activities, exhibits, tours,
> parades, occasional transportation and similar uses.=E2=80=9D Occasional
> transportation and similar uses are defined as no more than one day a wee=
k.
> Although buses and trucks are eligible for antique, classic and vintage
> registration plates, buses MAY NOT be used to transport passengers and
> trucks MAY NOT haul cargo. Antique, classic and vintage registration plat=
es
> are not available for motorized pedalcycles or motor homes.*
>
>
> http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20Sheets/fs=
-ant.pdf
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> My Thoughts...
> Happy Sunday :-)
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 7:17 PM rroenigk--- via Wpta <[email-masked]=
>
> wrote:
>
> Subject for discussion
>
> Antique Tags
>
> If PA law says can=E2=80=99t drive after dark, does your insurance compan=
y still
> cover you if you do ?
>
> Mine is American Modern and they say they go by each States restrictions =
/
> guidelines
>
> I would not be covered when driving in dark hours in PA
>
> Appreciate any feedback
>
> Thx
>
> Rich R
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> Tomorow
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<div><div dir=3D"auto">Go and download the latest MV 11 - photos are no lon=
ger required.</div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">J</d=
iv><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Jan 28, 201=
9 at 2:28 PM Kevin Dadey via Wpta &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex=
"><div><div class=3D"m_-181001285217412788ydp25cc9cb4yahoo-style-wrap" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">=
<div><div>Hello,</div><div><br></div><div>Since we are talking about Antiqu=
e plates, I have a question. I&#39;m planning to apply for Antique plates a=
nd noted the MV-11 form mentions 4 prequired photos - one from each side an=
d front and back. Obviously.=C2=A0</div><div>It also states if the car is c=
onvertible, the top must be up. Ugh. I have a top which has been removed an=
d requires some fittings and is likely to be a bit of a struggle. I don&#39=
;t really plan to use it. Really needs replaced but I&#39;d rather spend mo=
ney on other more pressing needs. Also the previous owner replaced the exha=
ust with a 2-pipe, 4-tipped Monza. Has anyone had trouble with approval bec=
ause of photos other than Bill, or a modified exhaust?=C2=A0</div><div><br>=
</div><div>Thanks in advance,</div><div>Kevin=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><di=
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                    On Monday, January 28, 2019, 12:20:51 PM EST, Ross, Law=
rence via Wpta &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
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<p>OK Kiddies -</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p>Being in the Risk Management Business, there is NO stipulation that limi=
ts driving during night hours on any of the following plates:</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A01) Antique</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A02) Historic</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A03) Classic</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p>The &quot;official recommendation&quot; is that you do not drive after d=
ark on due to the lack of &quot;lighting technology&quot;.</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p>However, it is=C2=A0NOT illegal to drive after dark.</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p>Larry Ross</p>
<div>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<div><font face=3D"Calibri"><strong>Lawrence Ross Agency</strong></font></d=
iv>
<div><font face=3D"calibri"><strong>67 Old Clairton Rd.</strong></font></di=
v>
<div><font face=3D"calibri"><strong>Pittsburgh, PA. 15236</strong></font></=
div>
<div><font face=3D"calibri"><strong>(412) 655-9990 - office</strong></font>=
</div>
<div><font face=3D"calibri"><strong>(412) 780-8495 - cell</strong></font></=
div>
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nk">[email-masked]</a>] on behalf of rroenigk--- via Wpta [<a =
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 28, 2019 8:27 AM<br clear=3D"none">
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<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">wpta@au=
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<b>Subject:</b> [External] Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting<br clear=3D"none">
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<div>Bill. I agree on PENNDOT staff not knowing or adding their two cents
<div><br clear=3D"none">
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<div>They scary part is our insurance companies use a =E2=80=9C loophole =
=E2=80=9C to avoid coverage=C2=A0</div>
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<div>I=E2=80=99m going to try to get clarification from PENNDOT</div>
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<div>Thx</div>
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der">On=C2=A0Monday, January 28, 2019,=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
om" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>=C2=A0&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:xj6197=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=C2=A0wrote:
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<div><font color=3D"black" size=3D"2" face=3D"arial">Believe what you want,=
 Rich. </font>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
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<div>Penndot is so random that you are likely to get any answer on any give=
n day depending on who you talk to.</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
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<div>Back when photos were required, I had applications bounced because of:=
</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>-a person sitting in the car</div>
<div>-front window was down</div>
<div>-license plate visible and &quot;was not original to the car&quot;</di=
v>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>I actually resubmitted the photos with the person in the car to see wh=
at would happen, and a week later I got my plate. Go figure.</div>
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</div>
<div>If you can find in writing within the vehicle code that antique plates=
 are not valid after dark, please let us know what section.</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>I did up a 1941 Ford in the mid 1980&#39;s. I had a good friend who wa=
s a State Trooper at the time who ran it up his chain of command.=C2=A0 &qu=
ot;If you want to drive legally after dark, make sure you have two tailligh=
ts, turn signals, and sealed beam headlights&quot;.
 That was good enough for me.</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Or just go with Classic and keep going in for inspections each year.</=
div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
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</div>
<div><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:10pt">Bill</span><br clear=3D"none">
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Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">
From: rroenigk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">rr=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
To: xj61975 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">xj6197=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
Cc: jstout310 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;; wpta &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2019 7:45 am<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting<br clear=3D"none">
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<div>Bill.=C2=A0 I had a friend went to PENNDOT last week
<div><br clear=3D"none">
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<div>The lady on desk told her that was difference between plates</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
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<div>And insurance company may not insure you=C2=A0</div>
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<div>You would think they know=C2=A0</div>
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<div>Would like to get in writing from PENNDOT</div>
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<div>Thx</div>
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der">On=C2=A0Sunday, January 27, 2019,=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
om" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>=C2=A0&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:xj6197=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=C2=A0wrote:
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<div><font color=3D"black" size=3D"2" face=3D"arial">Even before any recent=
 changes, there is no restriction to drive an antique registered car in PA =
after dark as long as you lighting meets current standards. This has been t=
rue for at least the last 25 years if
 not longer. Many people do not understand this and stick with Classic plat=
es. </font>
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<div>Bill Cooper<br clear=3D"none">
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From: Joe Stout via Wpta &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
To: rroenigk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">rroe=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
Cc: wpta &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">wpta@=
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Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2019 9:10 pm<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting<br clear=3D"none">
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<div>I looked into the after dark driving in PA in the past, and this state=
ment &quot;used&quot; to be there....</div>
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<div><b><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Roboto,arial,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(106,10=
6,106)">Antique</span><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Roboto,arial,sans-serif;CO=
LOR:rgb(84,84,84)">=C2=A0vehicles operated exclusively between sunrise and=
=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Roboto,arial,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(1=
06,106,106)">sunset</span><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Roboto,arial,sans-seri=
f;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84)">=C2=A0are
 exempt from the normal lighting=C2=A0</span></b></div>
<div><b><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Roboto,arial,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(84,84,=
84)">requirements of the=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Roboto,aria=
l,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(106,106,106)">Pennsylvania</span><span style=3D"FONT=
-FAMILY:Roboto,arial,sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84)">=C2=A0Vehicle
 Code, but must have their original lighting equipment.</span>=C2=A0=C2=A0<=
/b></div>
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</b></div>
<div>It looks that that statement has now even been removed from the code, =
as I am unable to find</div>
<div>it anyplace on PennDot documents...</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Here is what I think is the current document that mentions nothing abo=
ut driving after dark..</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>=C2=A0 <b>USE OF ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND VINTAGE REGISTRATION PLATES The =
use of antique, classic and vintage registration plates is governed by Sect=
ion 1340 of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, which states: =E2=80=9CIt is unl=
awful for any person to operate a motorcycle
 or vehicle with antique, classic or vintage registration plates for genera=
l daily transportation. Permitted use shall be limited to participation in =
club activities, exhibits, tours, parades, occasional transportation and si=
milar uses.=E2=80=9D Occasional transportation
 and similar uses are defined as no more than one day a week. Although buse=
s and trucks are eligible for antique, classic and vintage registration pla=
tes, buses MAY NOT be used to transport passengers and trucks MAY NOT haul =
cargo. Antique, classic and vintage
 registration plates are not available for motorized pedalcycles or motor h=
omes.</b>=C2=A0</div>
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<div>My Thoughts...</div>
<div>Happy Sunday :-)</div>
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<div>Joe</div>
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=3D"ltr">On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 7:17 PM rroenigk--- via Wpta &lt;<a shape=
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te" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT:1ex;BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;MARGIN=
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<div>If PA law says can=E2=80=99t drive after dark, does your insurance com=
pany still cover you if you do ?</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Mine is American Modern and they say they go by each States restrictio=
ns / guidelines=C2=A0</div>
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<div>I would not be covered when driving in dark hours in PA</div>
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<div>Appreciate any feedback=C2=A0</div>
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<div>Thx</div>
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From: wirenut12--- via Wpta <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 17:11:22 -0500

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Hey All,

I got two antique plates in the last year. No photos were required.
I=E2=80=99ve only had to send photos for Hagerty insurance when I applied=
.
American collectors insurance did not ask for any.
Hope this helps.

Tim

Sent from X=46INITY Connect App

------ Original Message ------

=46rom: Kevin Dadey via Wpta
To: rroenigk=40aol.com, LawrenceRoss=40allstate.com, xj61975=40aol.com
Cc: wpta=40autox.team.net
Sent: January 28, 2019 at 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: =5BWPTA=5D Dzus meeting

Hi,
That would be nice. I'm going through AAA so I'll ask there.
thanks=21
Kevin

Kevin J Dadey

On Monday, January 28, 2019, 1:27:54 PM EST, xj61975=40aol.com<xj61975=40=
aol.com>wrote:

Kevin,

Call or check in with a notary or messenger service. I think the photos m=
ay no longer be required.

Bill

-----Original Message-----
=46rom: Kevin Dadey<kevindadey=40yahoo.com>
To: rroenigk=40aol.com<rroenigk=40aol.com>; xj61975=40aol.com<xj61975=40a=
ol.com>; Ross, Lawrence<LawrenceRoss=40allstate.com>
Cc: wpta=40autox.team.net<wpta=40autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2019 1:22 pm
Subject: Re: =5BWPTA=5D Dzus meeting

Hello,

Since we are talking about Antique plates, I have a question. I'm plannin=
g to apply for Antique plates and noted the MV-11 form mentions 4 prequir=
ed photos - one from each side and front and back. Obviously.
It also states if the car is convertible, the top must be up. Ugh. I have=
 a top which has been removed and requires some fittings and is likely to=
 be a bit of a struggle. I don't really plan to use it. Really needs repl=
aced but I'd rather spend money on other more pressing needs. Also the pr=
evious owner replaced the exhaust with a 2-pipe, 4-tipped Monza. Has anyo=
ne had trouble with approval because of photos other than Bill, or a modi=
fied exhaust=3F

Thanks in advance,
Kevin

On Monday, January 28, 2019, 12:20:51 PM EST, Ross, Lawrence via Wpta<wpt=
a=40autox.team.net>wrote:

OK Kiddies -

Being in the Risk Management Business, there is NO stipulation that limit=
s driving during night hours on any of the following plates:

1) Antique

2) Historic

3) Classic

The =22official recommendation=22 is that you do not drive after dark on =
due to the lack of =22lighting technology=22.

However, it isNOT illegal to drive after dark.

Larry Ross

Lawrence Ross Agency
67 Old Clairton Rd.
Pittsburgh, PA. 15236
(412) 655-9990 - office
(412) 780-8495 - cell

=46rom:Wpta =5Bwpta-bounces=40autox.team.net=5D on behalf of rroenigk--- =
via Wpta =5Bwpta=40autox.team.net=5D
Sent:Monday, January 28, 2019 8:27 AM
To:xj61975=40aol.com
Cc:wpta=40autox.team.net
Subject:=5BExternal=5D Re: =5BWPTA=5D Dzus meeting

They scary part is our insurance companies use a =E2=80=9C loophole =E2=80=
=9C to avoid coverage

Thx

Rich R

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OnMonday, January 28, 2019,xj61975=40aol.com<xj61975=40aol.com>wrote:
> Penndot is so random that you are likely to get any answer on any given=
> -license plate visible and =22was not original to the car=22
> =20
> I actually resubmitted the photos with the person in the car to see wha=
t would happen, and a week later I got my plate. Go figure.
> =20
> If you can find in writing within the vehicle code that antique plates =
are not valid after dark, please let us know what section.
> =20
> I did up a 1941 =46ord in the mid 1980's. I had a good friend who was a=
 State Trooper at the time who ran it up his chain of command.=22If you w=
ant to drive legally after dark, make sure you have two taillights, turn =
signals, and sealed beam headlights=22. That was good enough for me.
> =46rom: rroenigk<rroenigk=40aol.com>
> To: xj61975<xj61975=40aol.com>
> Cc: jstout310<jstout310=40gmail.com>; wpta<wpta=40autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: =5BWPTA=5D Dzus meeting
> =20
> Bill.I had a friend went to PENNDOT last week
> =20
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> OnSunday, January 27, 2019,xj61975=40aol.com<xj61975=40aol.com>wrote:
> > Even before any recent changes, there is no restriction to drive an a=
ntique registered car in PA after dark as long as you lighting meets curr=
ent standards. This has been true for at least the last 25 years if not l=
onger. Many people do not understand this and stick with Classic plates.
> > =46rom: Joe Stout via Wpta<wpta=40autox.team.net>
> > To: rroenigk<rroenigk=40aol.com>
> > Cc: wpta<wpta=40autox.team.net>
> > Subject: Re: =5BWPTA=5D Dzus meeting
> > =20
> > =20
> > I looked into the after dark driving in PA in the past, and this stat=
ement =22used=22 to be there....
> > =20
> > Antiquevehicles operated exclusively between sunrise andsunsetare exe=
mpt from the normal lighting
> > requirements of thePennsylvaniaVehicle Code, but must have their orig=
inal lighting equipment.
> > =20
> > It looks that that statement has now even been removed from the code,=
 as I am unable to find
> > Here is what I think is the current document that mentions nothing ab=
out driving after dark..
> > =20
> > USE O=46 ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND VINTAGE REGISTRATION PLATES The use of =
antique, classic and vintage registration plates is governed by Section 1=
340 of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, which states: =E2=80=9CIt is unlawf=
ul for any person to operate a motorcycle or vehicle with antique, classi=
c or vintage registration plates for general daily transportation. Permit=
ted use shall be limited to participation in club activities, exhibits, t=
ours, parades, occasional transportation and similar uses.=E2=80=9D Occas=
ional transportation and similar uses are defined as no more than one day=
 a week. Although buses and trucks are eligible for antique, classic and =
vintage registration plates, buses MAY NOT be used to transport passenger=
s and trucks MAY NOT haul cargo. Antique, classic and vintage registratio=
n plates are not available for motorized pedalcycles or motor homes.
> > =20
> > http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20=46act%20She=
ets/fs-ant.pdf(https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url=3Fu=3Dhttp-3A=5F=5F=
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> > =20
> > My Thoughts...
> > Happy Sunday :-)
> > =20
> > Joe
> > =20
> > =20
> > =20
> > =20
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Hey All,<br><br>I got two antique plates in the last year. No photos were=
 required. <br>I=E2=80=99ve only had to send photos for Hagerty insurance=
 when I applied.<br>American collectors insurance did not ask for any. <b=
r>Hope this helps.<br><br>Tim<br><br>Sent from X=46INITY Connect App<br><=
br><br><br>------ Original Message ------<br><br>=46rom: Kevin Dadey via =
Wpta<br>To: rroenigk=40aol.com, LawrenceRoss=40allstate.com, xj61975=40ao=
l.com<br>Cc: wpta=40autox.team.net<br>Sent: January 28, 2019 at 4:54 PM<b=
r>Subject: Re: =5BWPTA=5D Dzus meeting<br><br><html><head></head><body><d=
iv class=3D=22ydp23eb02dayahoo-style-wrap=22 style=3D=22font-family:Helve=
tica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;=22><div><div>Hi,<=
/div><div>That would be nice. I'm going through AAA so I'll ask there.</d=
iv><div>thanks=21</div><div>Kevin</div><div><br></div><div class=3D=22ydp=
23eb02dasignature=22><div style=3D=22font-size:13px;=22><div><span style=3D=
=22color:rgb(51, 51, 51);line-height:17px;font-size:medium;=22><i><font f=
ace=3D=22verdana, helvetica, sans-serif=22>Kevin J Dadey</font></i></span=
></div><br></div></div></div>
        <div><br></div><div><br></div>
        =20
        </div><div id=3D=22ydp95532e31yahoo=5Fquoted=5F9691095709=22 clas=
s=3D=22ydp95532e31yahoo=5Fquoted=22>
            <div style=3D=22font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Aria=
l, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:=2326282a;=22>
                =20
                <div>
                    On Monday, January 28, 2019, 1:27:54 PM EST, xj61975=40=
aol.com &lt;xj61975=40aol.com&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D=22ydp95532e31yiv9845325914=22><div><font =
color=3D=22black=22 size=3D=222=22 face=3D=22arial=22>Kevin,
</font><div><br clear=3D=22none=22>
</div>

<div>Call or check in with a notary or messenger service. I think the pho=
tos may no longer be required.
<div><br clear=3D=22none=22>
</div>

<div>Bill<br clear=3D=22none=22>
<br clear=3D=22none=22>
<br clear=3D=22none=22>

<div class=3D=22ydp95532e31yiv9845325914yqt4754245174=22 id=3D=22ydp95532=
e31yiv9845325914yqt80244=22><div style=3D=22font-family:arial, helvetica;=
font-size:10pt;color:black;=22>-----Original Message-----<br clear=3D=22n=
one=22>
=46rom: Kevin Dadey &lt;kevindadey=40yahoo.com&gt;<br clear=3D=22none=22>=

To: rroenigk=40aol.com &lt;rroenigk=40aol.com&gt;; xj61975=40aol.com &lt;=
xj61975=40aol.com&gt;; Ross, Lawrence &lt;LawrenceRoss=40allstate.com&gt;=
<br clear=3D=22none=22>
Cc: wpta=40autox.team.net &lt;wpta=40autox.team.net&gt;<br clear=3D=22non=
e=22>
Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2019 1:22 pm<br clear=3D=22none=22>
Subject: Re: =5BWPTA=5D Dzus meeting<br clear=3D=22none=22>
<br clear=3D=22none=22>

<div id=3D=22ydp95532e31yiv9845325914=22>
<div>
<div class=3D=22ydp95532e31yiv9845325914ydp25cc9cb4yahoo-style-wrap=22 st=
yle=3D=22font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-si=
ze:13px;=22>
<div>
<div>Hello,</div>

<div><br clear=3D=22none=22></div>

<div>Since we are talking about Antique plates, I have a question. I'm pl=
anning to apply for Antique plates and noted the MV-11 form mentions 4 pr=
equired photos - one from each side and front and back. Obviously.&nbsp;<=
/div>

<div>It also states if the car is convertible, the top must be up. Ugh. I=
 have a top which has been removed and requires some fittings and is like=
ly to be a bit of a struggle. I don't really plan to use it. Really needs=
 replaced but I'd rather spend money on other more pressing needs. Also t=
he previous owner replaced the exhaust with a 2-pipe, 4-tipped Monza. Has=
 anyone had trouble with approval because of photos other than Bill, or a=
 modified exhaust=3F&nbsp;</div>

<div><br clear=3D=22none=22></div>

<div>Thanks in advance,</div>

<div>Kevin&nbsp;</div>

<div><br clear=3D=22none=22></div>

<div><br clear=3D=22none=22></div>

<div class=3D=22ydp95532e31yiv9845325914ydp25cc9cb4signature=22>
<div style=3D=22font-size:13px;=22>
<div><br clear=3D=22none=22></div>
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        =20
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<div class=3D=22ydp95532e31yiv9845325914ydp757b7d68yahoo=5Fquoted=22 id=3D=
=22ydp95532e31yiv9845325914ydp757b7d68yahoo=5Fquoted=5F9313689989=22>
            =20
<div style=3D=22font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-seri=
f;font-size:13px;color:=2326282a;=22>
                =20
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e31yiv9845325914yqt93814=22>
<div>
                    On Monday, January 28, 2019, 12:20:51 PM EST, Ross, L=
awrence via Wpta &lt;wpta=40autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
                </div>

                =20
<div><br clear=3D=22none=22></div>

                =20
<div><br clear=3D=22none=22></div>

                =20
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<div id=3D=22ydp95532e31yiv9845325914ydp757b7d68yiv8460901300=22>
<div>

<div style=3D=22direction:ltr;font-family:Calibri;color:=23000000;font-si=
ze:12pt;=22>

<div>OK Kiddies -</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div>Being in the Risk Management Business, there is NO stipulation that =
limits driving during night hours on any of the following plates:</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1) Antique</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2) Historic</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;3) Classic</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div>The =22official recommendation=22 is that you do not drive after dar=
k on due to the lack of =22lighting technology=22.</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div>However, it is&nbsp;NOT illegal to drive after dark.</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div>Larry Ross</div>

<div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div><font face=3D=22Calibri=22><strong>Lawrence Ross Agency</strong></fo=
nt></div>

<div><font face=3D=22calibri=22><strong>67 Old Clairton Rd.</strong></fon=
t></div>

<div><font face=3D=22calibri=22><strong>Pittsburgh, PA. 15236</strong></f=
ont></div>

<div><font face=3D=22calibri=22><strong>(412) 655-9990 - office</strong><=
/font></div>

<div><font face=3D=22calibri=22><strong>(412) 780-8495 - cell</strong></f=
ont></div>

</div>

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<div id=3D=22ydp95532e31yiv9845325914ydp757b7d68yiv8460901300divRp=468432=
17=22 style=3D=22DIRECTION:ltr;=22><font color=3D=22=23000000=22 size=3D=22=
2=22 face=3D=22Tahoma=22><b>=46rom:</b> Wpta =5Bwpta-bounces=40autox.team=
.net=5D on behalf of rroenigk--- via Wpta =5Bwpta=40autox.team.net=5D<br =
clear=3D=22none=22>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 28, 2019 8:27 AM<br clear=3D=22none=22>
<b>To:</b> xj61975=40aol.com<br clear=3D=22none=22>
<b>Cc:</b> wpta=40autox.team.net<br clear=3D=22none=22>
<b>Subject:</b> =5BExternal=5D Re: =5BWPTA=5D Dzus meeting<br clear=3D=22=
none=22>
</font><br clear=3D=22none=22>
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<div></div>

<div>Bill. I agree on PENNDOT staff not knowing or adding their two cents=

<div><br clear=3D=22none=22>
</div>

<div>They scary part is our insurance companies use a =E2=80=9C loophole =
=E2=80=9C to avoid coverage&nbsp;</div>

<div><br clear=3D=22none=22>
</div>

<div><br clear=3D=22none=22>
</div>

<div>Thx</div>

<div><br clear=3D=22none=22>
</div>

<div>Rich R<br clear=3D=22none=22>
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bsp;&lt;xj61975=40aol.com&gt;&nbsp;wrote:
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<div><font color=3D=22black=22 size=3D=222=22 face=3D=22arial=22>Believe =
what you want, Rich. </font>

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<div>Penndot is so random that you are likely to get any answer on any gi=
ven day depending on who you talk to.</div>

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<div>Back when photos were required, I had applications bounced because o=
f:</div>

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<div>-license plate visible and =22was not original to the car=22</div>

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<div>I actually resubmitted the photos with the person in the car to see =
what would happen, and a week later I got my plate. Go figure.</div>

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<div>If you can find in writing within the vehicle code that antique plat=
es are not valid after dark, please let us know what section.</div>

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<div>I did up a 1941 =46ord in the mid 1980's. I had a good friend who wa=
s a State Trooper at the time who ran it up his chain of command.&nbsp; =22=
If you want to drive legally after dark, make sure you have two taillight=
s, turn signals, and sealed beam headlights=22.
 That was good enough for me.</div>

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<div>Or just go with Classic and keep going in for inspections each year.=
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<div>Thanks,</div>

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<div><span style=3D=22=46ONT-SIZE:10pt;=22>Bill</span><br clear=3D=22none=
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lack;=22>-----Original Message-----<br clear=3D=22none=22>
=46rom: rroenigk &lt;rroenigk=40aol.com&gt;<br clear=3D=22none=22>
To: xj61975 &lt;xj61975=40aol.com&gt;<br clear=3D=22none=22>
Cc: jstout310 &lt;jstout310=40gmail.com&gt;; wpta &lt;wpta=40autox.team.n=
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Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2019 7:45 am<br clear=3D=22none=22>
Subject: Re: =5BWPTA=5D Dzus meeting<br clear=3D=22none=22>
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<div>Bill. &nbsp;I had a friend went to PENNDOT last week

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<div>And insurance company may not insure you&nbsp;</div>

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<div>You would think they know&nbsp;</div>

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<div>Thx</div>

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replyHeader=22>On&nbsp;Sunday, January 27, 2019,&nbsp;xj61975=40aol.com&n=
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<div><font color=3D=22black=22 size=3D=222=22 face=3D=22arial=22>Even bef=
ore any recent changes, there is no restriction to drive an antique regis=
tered car in PA after dark as long as you lighting meets current standard=
s. This has been true for at least the last 25 years if
 not longer. Many people do not understand this and stick with Classic pl=
ates. </font>

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To: rroenigk &lt;rroenigk=40aol.com&gt;<br clear=3D=22none=22>
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<div>I looked into the after dark driving in PA in the past, and this sta=
tement =22used=22 to be there....</div>

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<div><b><span style=3D=22=46ONT-=46AMILY:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;COLOR:=
rgb(106,106,106);=22>Antique</span><span style=3D=22=46ONT-=46AMILY:Robot=
o, arial, sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);=22>&nbsp;vehicles operated excl=
usively between sunrise and&nbsp;</span><span style=3D=22=46ONT-=46AMILY:=
Roboto, arial, sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(106,106,106);=22>sunset</span><span s=
tyle=3D=22=46ONT-=46AMILY:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(84,84,84);=22=
>&nbsp;are
 exempt from the normal lighting&nbsp;</span></b></div>

<div><b><span style=3D=22=46ONT-=46AMILY:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;COLOR:=
rgb(84,84,84);=22>requirements of the&nbsp;</span><span style=3D=22=46ONT=
-=46AMILY:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;COLOR:rgb(106,106,106);=22>Pennsylvan=
ia</span><span style=3D=22=46ONT-=46AMILY:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;COLOR=
:rgb(84,84,84);=22>&nbsp;Vehicle
 Code, but must have their original lighting equipment.</span>&nbsp;&nbsp=
;</b></div>

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<div>It looks that that statement has now even been removed from the code=
, as I am unable to find</div>

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<div>Here is what I think is the current document that mentions nothing a=
bout driving after dark..</div>

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<div>&nbsp; <b>USE O=46 ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND VINTAGE REGISTRATION PLATES =
The use of antique, classic and vintage registration plates is governed b=
y Section 1340 of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, which states: =E2=80=9CI=
t is unlawful for any person to operate a motorcycle
 or vehicle with antique, classic or vintage registration plates for gene=
ral daily transportation. Permitted use shall be limited to participation=
 in club activities, exhibits, tours, parades, occasional transportation =
and similar uses.=E2=80=9D Occasional transportation
 and similar uses are defined as no more than one day a week. Although bu=
ses and trucks are eligible for antique, classic and vintage registration=
 plates, buses MAY NOT be used to transport passengers and trucks MAY NOT=
 haul cargo. Antique, classic and vintage
 registration plates are not available for motorized pedalcycles or motor=
 homes.</b>&nbsp;</div>

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6=22>Subject for discussion&nbsp;

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<div>Antique Tags</div>

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<div>If PA law says can=E2=80=99t drive after dark, does your insurance c=
ompany still cover you if you do =3F</div>

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<div>Mine is American Modern and they say they go by each States restrict=
ions / guidelines&nbsp;</div>

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<div>Appreciate any feedback&nbsp;</div>

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<div>Thx</div>

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