Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting

From: rroenigk--- via Wpta <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 12:45:47 +0000 (UTC)

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Bill. =C2=A0I had a friend went to PENNDOT last week
The lady on desk told her that was difference between plates
And insurance company may not insure you=C2=A0
You would think they know=C2=A0

Would like to get in writing from PENNDOT
Thx
Rich R

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Even before any recent changes, there is no restriction to drive an antique=
 registered car in PA after dark as long as you lighting meets current stan=
dards. This has been true for at least the last 25 years if not longer. Man=
y people do not understand this and stick with Classic plates.
Bill Cooper

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I looked into the after dark driving in PA in the past, and this statement =
"used" to be there....
Antique=C2=A0vehicles operated exclusively between sunrise and=C2=A0sunset=
=C2=A0are exempt from the normal lighting=C2=A0requirements of the=C2=A0Pen=
nsylvania=C2=A0Vehicle Code, but must have their original lighting equipmen=
t.=C2=A0=C2=A0
It looks that that statement has now even been removed from the code, as I =
am unable to findit anyplace on PennDot documents...
Here is what I think is the current document that mentions nothing about dr=
iving after dark..
=C2=A0 USE OF ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND VINTAGE REGISTRATION PLATESThe use of an=
tique, classic and vintage registration plates is governed by Section 1340 =
of the PennsylvaniaVehicle Code, which states: =E2=80=9CIt is unlawful for =
any person to operate a motorcycle or vehicle with antique,classic or vinta=
ge registration plates for general daily transportation. Permitted use shal=
l be limited toparticipation in club activities, exhibits, tours, parades, =
occasional transportation and similar uses.=E2=80=9D Occasionaltransportati=
on and similar uses are defined as no more than one day a week.Although bus=
es and trucks are eligible for antique, classic and vintage registration pl=
ates, buses MAY NOT beused to transport passengers and trucks MAY NOT haul =
cargo. Antique, classic and vintage registration platesare not available fo=
r motorized pedalcycles or motor homes.=C2=A0
http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20Sheets/fs-a=
nt.pdf

My Thoughts...Happy Sunday :-)
Joe

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Subject for discussion=C2=A0
Antique Tags
If PA law says can=E2=80=99t drive after dark, does your insurance company =
still cover you if you do ?
Mine is American Modern and they say they go by each States restrictions / =
guidelines=C2=A0
I would not be covered when driving in dark hours in PA
Appreciate any feedback=C2=A0
Thx
Rich R

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Bill. &nbsp;I had a friend went to PENNDOT last week<div><br></div><div>The=
 lady on desk told her that was difference between plates</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>And insurance company may not insure you&nbsp;</div><div><br></div>=
<div>You would think they know&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><di=
v>Would like to get in writing from PENNDOT</div><div><br></div><div>Thx</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Rich R<br><br><div id=3D"__aol_mail_signature__"><di=
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<blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 9px;padding:0 0 0 9px;"><div id=3D"yiv368=
7656312"><div><font color=3D"black" size=3D"2" face=3D"arial">Even before a=
ny recent changes, there is no restriction to drive an antique registered c=
ar in PA after dark as long as you lighting meets current standards. This h=
as been true for at least the last 25 years if not longer. Many people do n=
ot understand this and stick with Classic plates.
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<div>Bill Cooper<br clear=3D"none">
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<div>I looked into the after dark driving in PA in the past, and this state=
ment "used" to be there....</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div><b><span style=3D"color:rgb(106,106,106);font-family:Roboto, arial, sa=
ns-serif;">Antique</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(84,84,84);font-family:Rob=
oto, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;vehicles operated exclusively between sunris=
e and&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(106,106,106);font-family:Roboto,=
 arial, sans-serif;">sunset</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(84,84,84);font-f=
amily:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;are exempt from the normal lighting=
&nbsp;</span></b></div>

<div><b><span style=3D"color:rgb(84,84,84);font-family:Roboto, arial, sans-=
serif;">requirements of the&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(106,106,10=
6);font-family:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;">Pennsylvania</span><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(84,84,84);font-family:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;Vehic=
le Code, but must have their original lighting equipment.</span>&nbsp;&nbsp=
;</b></div>

<div><b><br clear=3D"none"></b></div>

<div>It looks that that statement has now even been removed from the code, =
as I am unable to find</div>

<div>it anyplace on PennDot documents...</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Here is what I think is the current document that mentions nothing abo=
ut driving after dark..</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>&nbsp; <b>USE OF ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND VINTAGE REGISTRATION PLATES
The use of antique, classic and vintage registration plates is governed by =
Section 1340 of the Pennsylvania
Vehicle Code, which states: =E2=80=9CIt is unlawful for any person to opera=
te a motorcycle or vehicle with antique,
classic or vintage registration plates for general daily transportation. Pe=
rmitted use shall be limited to
participation in club activities, exhibits, tours, parades, occasional tran=
sportation and similar uses.=E2=80=9D Occasional
transportation and similar uses are defined as no more than one day a week.
Although buses and trucks are eligible for antique, classic and vintage reg=
istration plates, buses MAY NOT be
used to transport passengers and trucks MAY NOT haul cargo. Antique, classi=
c and vintage registration plates
are not available for motorized pedalcycles or motor homes.</b>&nbsp;</div>

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ttp://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20Sheets/fs-an=
t.pdf</a><br clear=3D"none"></div>

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<div>My Thoughts...</div>

<div>Happy Sunday :-)</div>

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<div>Joe</div>

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<div>Antique Tags</div>

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<div>If PA law says can=E2=80=99t drive after dark, does your insurance com=
pany still cover you if you do ?</div>

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<div>Mine is American Modern and they say they go by each States restrictio=
ns / guidelines&nbsp;</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>I would not be covered when driving in dark hours in PA</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Appreciate any feedback&nbsp;</div>

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<div>Thx</div>

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From: xj61975--- via Wpta <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:16:06 +0000 (UTC)

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Believe what you want, Rich.
Penndot is so random that you are likely to get any answer on any given day=
 depending on who you talk to.
Back when photos were required, I had applications bounced because of:
-a person sitting in the car-front window was down-license plate visible an=
d "was not original to the car"
I actually resubmitted the photos with the person in the car to see what wo=
uld happen, and a week later I got my plate. Go figure.
If you can find in writing within the vehicle code that antique plates are =
not valid after dark, please let us know what section.
I did up a 1941 Ford in the mid 1980's. I had a good friend who was a State=
 Trooper at the time who ran it up his chain of command.=C2=A0 "If you want=
 to drive legally after dark, make sure you have two taillights, turn signa=
ls, and sealed beam headlights". That was good enough for me.
Or just go with Classic and keep going in for inspections each year.
Thanks,
Bill

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<font color=3D'black' size=3D'2' face=3D'arial'>Believe what you want, Rich=
.
<div><br>
</div>

<div>Penndot is so random that you are likely to get any answer on any give=
n day depending on who you talk to.</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Back when photos were required, I had applications bounced because of:=
</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>-a person sitting in the car</div>

<div>-front window was down</div>

<div>-license plate visible and "was not original to the car"</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>I actually resubmitted the photos with the person in the car to see wh=
at would happen, and a week later I got my plate. Go figure.</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>If you can find in writing within the vehicle code that antique plates=
 are not valid after dark, please let us know what section.</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>I did up a 1941 Ford in the mid 1980's. I had a good friend who was a =
State Trooper at the time who ran it up his chain of command.&nbsp; "If you=
 want to drive legally after dark, make sure you have two taillights, turn =
signals, and sealed beam headlights". That was good enough for me.</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Or just go with Classic and keep going in for inspections each year.</=
div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Thanks,</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;">Bill</span><br>
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<div>The lady on desk told her that was difference between plates</div>

<div>And insurance company may not insure you&nbsp;</div>

<div>You would think they know&nbsp;</div>

<div>Would like to get in writing from PENNDOT</div>

<div>Thx</div>

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The only caution against driving your Triumph at night, whether it has PA c=
lassic or antique plates, it the one by Joseph Lucas. We had this discussio=
n 25 years ago. =20

"Gentlemen don't motor about after dark".

PennDot doesn't care.

Geez Loueez!!

Ed Woods

> On January 28, 2019 at 7:45 AM rroenigk--- via Wpta <[email-masked]>=
 wrote:
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>     Bill.  I had a friend went to PENNDOT last week
>=20
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>     And insurance company may not insure you=20
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>     You would think they know=20
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>         > >         Even before any recent changes, there is no restricti=
on to drive an antique registered car in PA after dark as long as you light=
ing meets current standards. This has been true for at least the last 25 ye=
ars if not longer. Many people do not understand this and stick with Classi=
c plates.
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
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> >         I looked into the after dark driving in PA in the past, and thi=
s statement "used" to be there....
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> >         Antique vehicles operated exclusively between sunrise and sunse=
t are exempt from the normal lighting=20
> >         requirements of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, but must have th=
eir original lighting equipment. =20
> >=20
> >         It looks that that statement has now even been removed from the=
 code, as I am unable to find
> >         it anyplace on PennDot documents...
> >=20
> >         Here is what I think is the current document that mentions noth=
ing about driving after dark..
> >=20
> >           USE OF ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND VINTAGE REGISTRATION PLATES The u=
se of antique, classic and vintage registration plates is governed by Secti=
on 1340 of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, which states: =E2=80=9CIt is unla=
wful for any person to operate a motorcycle or vehicle with antique, classi=
c or vintage registration plates for general daily transportation. Permitte=
d use shall be limited to participation in club activities, exhibits, tours=
, parades, occasional transportation and similar uses.=E2=80=9D Occasional =
transportation and similar uses are defined as no more than one day a week.=
 Although buses and trucks are eligible for antique, classic and vintage re=
gistration plates, buses MAY NOT be used to transport passengers and trucks=
 MAY NOT haul cargo. Antique, classic and vintage registration plates are n=
ot available for motorized pedalcycles or motor homes.=20
> >=20
> >         http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%2=
0Sheets/fs-ant.pdf
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> >         Happy Sunday :-)
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> >             > > >             Subject for discussion=20
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> > >             Antique Tags
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es restrictions / guidelines=20
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> > > >                 Monday January 28
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</head><body><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sa=
ns-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">The only caution against driving your Tr=
iumph at night, whether it has PA classic or antique plates, it the one by =
Joseph Lucas. We had this discussion 25 years ago. &#160;</p><p style=3D"fo=
nt-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51=
, 51);">&#34;Gentlemen don&#39;t motor about after dark&#34;.</p><p style=
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t-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Geez Louee=
z!!</p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-ser=
if; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-fami=
ly: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Ed Woods</p><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite">On January 28, 2019 at 7:45 AM rroenigk--- via Wpta &=
#60;[email-masked]&#62; wrote: <br> <br>Bill. &#160;I had a friend wen=
t to PENNDOT last week<div><br></div><div>The lady on desk told her that wa=
s difference between plates</div><div><br></div><div>And insurance company =
may not insure you&#160;</div><div><br></div><div>You would think they know=
&#160;</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Would like to get in writing=
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</div><br><div class=3D"ox-21ad06c92a-aolmail_replyHeader">On&#160;Sunday, =
January 27, 2019,&#160;[email-masked]&#160;&#60;[email-masked]&#62;&#160;=
wrote:</div><br><blockquote><div><span style=3D"color: black; font-family: =
arial; font-size: small;">Even before any recent changes, there is no restr=
iction to drive an antique registered car in PA after dark as long as you l=
ighting meets current standards. This has been true for at least the last 2=
5 years if not longer. Many people do not understand this and stick with Cl=
assic plates. </span><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Bill Cooper <br cle=
ar=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"><div style=3D"font-fami=
ly: arial, helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: black;">-----Original Message=
----- <br clear=3D"none"> From: Joe Stout via Wpta &#60;[email-masked]=
&#62; <br clear=3D"none"> To: rroenigk &#60;[email-masked]&#62; <br clear=
=3D"none"> Cc: wpta &#60;[email-masked]&#62; <br clear=3D"none"> Sent:=
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ting <br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"ox-21ad06c92a-yiv=
3687656312yqt8390187375" id=3D"ox-21ad06c92a-yiv3687656312yqt03638"><div id=
=3D"ox-21ad06c92a-yiv3687656312"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
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, and this statement &#34;used&#34; to be there....</div><div><br clear=3D"=
none"></div><div><strong><span style=3D"color: #6a6a6a; font-family: Roboto=
, arial, sans-serif;">Antique</span><span style=3D"color: #545454; font-fam=
ily: Roboto, arial, sans-serif;">&#160;vehicles operated exclusively betwee=
n sunrise and&#160;</span><span style=3D"color: #6a6a6a; font-family: Robot=
o, arial, sans-serif;">sunset</span><span style=3D"color: #545454; font-fam=
ily: Roboto, arial, sans-serif;">&#160;are exempt from the normal lighting&=
#160;</span></strong></div><div><strong><span style=3D"color: #545454; font=
-family: Roboto, arial, sans-serif;">requirements of the&#160;</span><span =
style=3D"color: #6a6a6a; font-family: Roboto, arial, sans-serif;">Pennsylva=
nia</span><span style=3D"color: #545454; font-family: Roboto, arial, sans-s=
erif;">&#160;Vehicle Code, but must have their original lighting equipment.=
</span>&#160;&#160;</strong></div><div><strong><br clear=3D"none"></strong>=
</div><div>It looks that that statement has now even been removed from the =
code, as I am unable to find</div><div>it anyplace on PennDot documents...<=
/div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Here is what I think is the current=
 document that mentions nothing about driving after dark..</div><div><br cl=
ear=3D"none"></div><div>&#160; <strong>USE OF ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND VINTAGE =
REGISTRATION PLATES The use of antique, classic and vintage registration pl=
ates is governed by Section 1340 of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, which st=
ates: &#8220;It is unlawful for any person to operate a motorcycle or vehic=
le with antique, classic or vintage registration plates for general daily t=
ransportation. Permitted use shall be limited to participation in club acti=
vities, exhibits, tours, parades, occasional transportation and similar use=
s.&#8221; Occasional transportation and similar uses are defined as no more=
 than one day a week. Although buses and trucks are eligible for antique, c=
lassic and vintage registration plates, buses MAY NOT be used to transport =
passengers and trucks MAY NOT haul cargo. Antique, classic and vintage regi=
stration plates are not available for motorized pedalcycles or motor homes.=
</strong>&#160;</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><a target=3D"_blank=
" href=3D"http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20S=
heets/fs-ant.pdf" rel=3D"noopener">http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspub=
sforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20Sheets/fs-ant.pdf</a> <br clear=3D"none"></div><div=
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Bill is correct.

"Classic vehicles are subject to an annual vehicle safety inspection. Antiq=
ue vehicles operated exclusively
between sunrise and sunset are exempt from the normal lighting requirements=
 of the Pennsylvania Vehicle
Code, but must have their original lighting equipment. Antique vehicles are=
 not subject to the annual vehicle
safety inspection. Antique and classic vehicles are not subject to emission=
s inspection."

This sentence is put in so that people don't drive their Model T with gas l=
amps and no turn signals after dark. It is saying you can drive your origin=
ally equipped Model T during daylight hours only. Bottom line is that if th=
e lighting is DOT approved and would pass a safety inspection, you can driv=
e it any time of the day or night regardless of which plate is on it. I hea=
r this can't drive after dark all the time because of misinterpretation of =
this one sentence.
Jim

> On January 28, 2019 at 8:16 AM xj61975--- via Wpta <[email-masked]> =
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>     -front window was down
>     -license plate visible and "was not original to the car"
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hat would happen, and a week later I got my plate. Go figure.
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>     If you can find in writing within the vehicle code that antique plate=
s are not valid after dark, please let us know what section.
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>     I did up a 1941 Ford in the mid 1980's. I had a good friend who was a=
 State Trooper at the time who ran it up his chain of command.  "If you wan=
t to drive legally after dark, make sure you have two taillights, turn sign=
als, and sealed beam headlights". That was good enough for me.
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</head><body>Bill is correct.<br><br>&#34;Classic vehicles are subject to an annual vehicle safety inspection. Antique vehicles operated exclusively<br>between sunrise and sunset are exempt from the normal lighting requirements of the Pennsylvania Vehicle<br>Code, but must have their original lighting equipment. Antique vehicles are not subject to the annual vehicle<br>safety inspection. Antique and classic vehicles are not subject to emissions inspection.&#34;<br><br>This sentence is put in so that people don&#39;t drive their Model T with gas lamps and no turn signals after dark.  It is saying you can drive your originally equipped Model T during daylight hours only.  Bottom line is that if the lighting is DOT approved and would pass a safety inspection, you can drive it any time of the day or night regardless of which plate is on it.   I hear this can&#39;t drive after dark all the time because of misinterpretation of this one sentence.<br>Jim<br><br>
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 <font color="black" size="2" face="arial">Believe what you want, Rich. 
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   Penndot is so random that you are likely to get any answer on any given day depending on who you talk to.
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   Back when photos were required, I had applications bounced because of:
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   -a person sitting in the car
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   -front window was down
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   -license plate visible and &#34;was not original to the car&#34;
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   I actually resubmitted the photos with the person in the car to see what would happen, and a week later I got my plate. Go figure.
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   If you can find in writing within the vehicle code that antique plates are not valid after dark, please let us know what section.
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   I did up a 1941 Ford in the mid 1980&#39;s. I had a good friend who was a State Trooper at the time who ran it up his chain of command.&#160; &#34;If you want to drive legally after dark, make sure you have two taillights, turn signals, and sealed beam headlights&#34;. That was good enough for me.
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   Or just go with Classic and keep going in for inspections each year.
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   Thanks,
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    -----Original Message-----
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    <br> Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting
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      Bill. &#160;I had a friend went to PENNDOT last week 
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       The lady on desk told her that was difference between plates
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       And insurance company may not insure you&#160;
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       You would think they know&#160;
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       Would like to get in writing from PENNDOT
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           <font color="black" size="2" face="arial">Even before any recent changes, there is no restriction to drive an antique registered car in PA after dark as long as you lighting meets current standards. This has been true for at least the last 25 years if not longer. Many people do not understand this and stick with Classic plates. </font> 
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             <br clear="none"> Cc: wpta &#60;[email-masked]&#62;
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                   I looked into the after dark driving in PA in the past, and this statement &#34;used&#34; to be there....
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                   <b><span style="color: rgb(106,106,106); font-family: Roboto, arial, sans-serif;">Antique</span><span style="color: rgb(84,84,84); font-family: Roboto, arial, sans-serif;">&#160;vehicles operated exclusively between sunrise and&#160;</span><span style="color: rgb(106,106,106); font-family: Roboto, arial, sans-serif;">sunset</span><span style="color: rgb(84,84,84); font-family: Roboto, arial, sans-serif;">&#160;are exempt from the normal lighting&#160;</span></b>
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                   <b><span style="color: rgb(84,84,84); font-family: Roboto, arial, sans-serif;">requirements of the&#160;</span><span style="color: rgb(106,106,106); font-family: Roboto, arial, sans-serif;">Pennsylvania</span><span style="color: rgb(84,84,84); font-family: Roboto, arial, sans-serif;">&#160;Vehicle Code, but must have their original lighting equipment.</span>&#160;&#160;</b>
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                   It looks that that statement has now even been removed from the code, as I am unable to find
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                   Here is what I think is the current document that mentions nothing about driving after dark..
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                   &#160; 
                   <b>USE OF ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND VINTAGE REGISTRATION PLATES The use of antique, classic and vintage registration plates is governed by Section 1340 of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, which states: &#8220;It is unlawful for any person to operate a motorcycle or vehicle with antique, classic or vintage registration plates for general daily transportation. Permitted use shall be limited to participation in club activities, exhibits, tours, parades, occasional transportation and similar uses.&#8221; Occasional transportation and similar uses are defined as no more than one day a week. Although buses and trucks are eligible for antique, classic and vintage registration plates, buses MAY NOT be used to transport passengers and trucks MAY NOT haul cargo. Antique, classic and vintage registration plates are not available for motorized pedalcycles or motor homes.</b>&#160;
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                   <a target="_blank" href="http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20Sheets/fs-ant.pdf">http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20Sheets/fs-ant.pdf</a>
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                   My Thoughts...
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                   Subject for discussion&#160; 
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                    Antique Tags
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                    If PA law says can&#8217;t drive after dark, does your insurance company still cover you if you do ?
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                    Mine is American Modern and they say they go by each States restrictions / guidelines&#160;
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                    I would not be covered when driving in dark hours in PA
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 16:44:42 -0500

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A call to PENNDOT today said they same as your first paragraph =
below=E2=80=A6.they stated that if you modified the lighting,  (example, =
 LED, halogen )  no longer qualifies for Antique plates.

=20

OK, if you improve lighting on Antique tagged vehicle=E2=80=A6..then can =
insurance company deny claim based on your violation of States regs ???

=20

Rich R

=20

From: JIM UNDERWOOD [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 9:40 AM
To: [email-masked]; xj61975--- via Wpta; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting

=20

Bill is correct.

"Classic vehicles are subject to an annual vehicle safety inspection. =
Antique vehicles operated exclusively
between sunrise and sunset are exempt from the normal lighting =
requirements of the Pennsylvania Vehicle
Code, but must have their original lighting equipment. Antique vehicles =
are not subject to the annual vehicle
safety inspection. Antique and classic vehicles are not subject to =
emissions inspection."

This sentence is put in so that people don't drive their Model T with =
gas lamps and no turn signals after dark. It is saying you can drive =
your originally equipped Model T during daylight hours only. Bottom line =
is that if the lighting is DOT approved and would pass a safety =
inspection, you can drive it any time of the day or night regardless of =
which plate is on it. I hear this can't drive after dark all the time =
because of misinterpretation of this one sentence.
Jim

wrote:=20

Believe what you want, Rich.=20

=20

Penndot is so random that you are likely to get any answer on any given =
day depending on who you talk to.=20

=20

Back when photos were required, I had applications bounced because of:=20

=20

-a person sitting in the car=20

-front window was down=20

-license plate visible and "was not original to the car"=20

=20

I actually resubmitted the photos with the person in the car to see what =
would happen, and a week later I got my plate. Go figure.=20

=20

If you can find in writing within the vehicle code that antique plates =
are not valid after dark, please let us know what section.=20

=20

I did up a 1941 Ford in the mid 1980's. I had a good friend who was a =
State Trooper at the time who ran it up his chain of command.  "If you =
want to drive legally after dark, make sure you have two taillights, =
turn signals, and sealed beam headlights". That was good enough for me.=20

=20

Or just go with Classic and keep going in for inspections each year.=20

=20

Thanks,=20

=20

Bill=20

=20

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From: rroenigk <[email-masked]>=20
To: xj61975 <[email-masked]>=20
Cc: jstout310 <[email-masked]>; wpta <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2019 7:45 am=20
Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting=20

Bill.  I had a friend went to PENNDOT last week=20

=20

The lady on desk told her that was difference between plates=20

=20

And insurance company may not insure you =20

=20

You would think they know =20

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Would like to get in writing from PENNDOT=20

=20

Thx=20

=20

Rich R=20

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On Sunday, January 27, 2019, [email-masked] <[email-masked]> wrote:=20

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Even before any recent changes, there is no restriction to drive an =
antique registered car in PA after dark as long as you lighting meets =
current standards. This has been true for at least the last 25 years if =
not longer. Many people do not understand this and stick with Classic =
plates.=20

=20

Bill Cooper=20

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From: Joe Stout via Wpta <[email-masked]>=20
To: rroenigk <[email-masked]>=20
Cc: wpta <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2019 9:10 pm=20
Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting=20

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I looked into the after dark driving in PA in the past, and this =
statement "used" to be there....=20

=20

Antique vehicles operated exclusively between sunrise and sunset are =
exempt from the normal lighting =20

requirements of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, but must have their =
original lighting equipment.  =20

=20

It looks that that statement has now even been removed from the code, as =
I am unable to find=20

it anyplace on PennDot documents...=20

=20

Here is what I think is the current document that mentions nothing about =
driving after dark..=20

=20

  USE OF ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND VINTAGE REGISTRATION PLATES The use of =
antique, classic and vintage registration plates is governed by Section =
1340 of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, which states: =E2=80=9CIt is =
unlawful for any person to operate a motorcycle or vehicle with antique, =
classic or vintage registration plates for general daily transportation. =
Permitted use shall be limited to participation in club activities, =
exhibits, tours, parades, occasional transportation and similar =
uses.=E2=80=9D Occasional transportation and similar uses are defined as =
no more than one day a week. Although buses and trucks are eligible for =
antique, classic and vintage registration plates, buses MAY NOT be used =
to transport passengers and trucks MAY NOT haul cargo. Antique, classic =
and vintage registration plates are not available for motorized =
pedalcycles or motor homes. =20

=20

http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20Sheets/fs=
-ant.pdf=20

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My Thoughts...=20

Happy Sunday :-)=20

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Joe=20

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Subject for discussion =20

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Antique Tags=20

=20

If PA law says can=E2=80=99t drive after dark, does your insurance =
company still cover you if you do ?=20

=20

Mine is American Modern and they say they go by each States restrictions =
/ guidelines =20

=20

I would not be covered when driving in dark hours in PA=20

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Appreciate any feedback =20

=20

Thx=20

=20

Rich R=20

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D'>A call to PENNDOT today said they same as your first paragraph =
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(example, =C2=A0LED, halogen )=C2=A0 no longer qualifies for Antique =
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D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>OK, if you improve lighting on Antique tagged vehicle=E2=80=A6..then =
can insurance company deny claim based on your violation of States regs =
???<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Rich R<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
JIM UNDERWOOD [mailto:[email-masked]] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, =
January 28, 2019 9:40 AM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]; xj61975--- via =
Wpta; [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WPTA] Dzus =
meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Bill is =
correct.<br><br>&quot;Classic vehicles are subject to an annual vehicle =
safety inspection. Antique vehicles operated exclusively<br>between =
sunrise and sunset are exempt from the normal lighting requirements of =
the Pennsylvania Vehicle<br>Code, but must have their original lighting =
equipment. Antique vehicles are not subject to the annual =
vehicle<br>safety inspection. Antique and classic vehicles are not =
subject to emissions inspection.&quot;<br><br>This sentence is put in so =
that people don't drive their Model T with gas lamps and no turn signals =
after dark. It is saying you can drive your originally equipped Model T =
during daylight hours only. Bottom line is that if the lighting is DOT =
approved and would pass a safety inspection, you can drive it any time =
of the day or night regardless of which plate is on it. I hear this =
can't drive after dark all the time because of misinterpretation of this =
one sentence.<br>Jim<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
January 28, 2019 at 8:16 AM xj61975--- via Wpta =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote: <br><br><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>B=
elieve what you want, Rich. <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>P=
enndot is so random that you are likely to get any answer on any given =
day depending on who you talk to. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>B=
ack when photos were required, I had applications bounced because of: =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-=
a person sitting in the car <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-=
front window was down <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-=
license plate visible and &quot;was not original to the car&quot; =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I=
 actually resubmitted the photos with the person in the car to see what =
would happen, and a week later I got my plate. Go figure. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I=
f you can find in writing within the vehicle code that antique plates =
are not valid after dark, please let us know what section. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I=
 did up a 1941 Ford in the mid 1980's. I had a good friend who was a =
State Trooper at the time who ran it up his chain of command.&nbsp; =
&quot;If you want to drive legally after dark, make sure you have two =
taillights, turn signals, and sealed beam headlights&quot;. That was =
good enough for me. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>O=
r just go with Classic and keep going in for inspections each year. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>T=
hanks, <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>B=
ill <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
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style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
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----Original Message----- <br>From: rroenigk &lt;[email-masked]&gt; =
<br>To: xj61975 &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br>Cc: jstout310 =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;; wpta &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br>Sent: =
Mon, Jan 28, 2019 7:45 am <br>Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=3Dyiv2027554233><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>B=
ill. &nbsp;I had a friend went to PENNDOT last week =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>T=
he lady on desk told her that was difference between plates =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>A=
nd insurance company may not insure you&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Y=
ou would think they know&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>W=
ould like to get in writing from PENNDOT =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>T=
hx <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>R=
ich R <o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
id=3D"yiv2027554233__aol_mail_signature__"><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:8.5pt;font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light;color:#949494'>S=
ent from AOL Mobile Mail <br>Get the new AOL app: <a =
href=3D"http://mail.mobile.aol.com" =
target=3D"_blank">mail.mobile.aol.com</a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div id=3Dyiv2027554233yqt99892><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>O=
n&nbsp;Sunday, January 27, =
2019,&nbsp;[email-masked]&nbsp;&lt;[email-masked]&gt;&nbsp;wrote: =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div id=3Dyiv2027554233><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>E=
ven before any recent changes, there is no restriction to drive an =
antique registered car in PA after dark as long as you lighting meets =
current standards. This has been true for at least the last 25 years if =
not longer. Many people do not understand this and stick with Classic =
plates. <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>B=
ill Cooper <br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-=
----Original Message----- <br>From: Joe Stout via Wpta =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br>To: rroenigk &lt;[email-masked]&gt; =
<br>Cc: wpta &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br>Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2019 =
9:10 pm <br>Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting <o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
id=3Dyiv2027554233yqt03638><div id=3Dyiv2027554233><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I=
 looked into the after dark driving in PA in the past, and this =
statement &quot;used&quot; to be there.... =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#6A6A6A'=
>Antique</span></b><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#545454'=
>&nbsp;vehicles operated exclusively between sunrise =
and&nbsp;</span></b><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#6A6A6A'=
>sunset</span></b><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#545454'=
>&nbsp;are exempt from the normal lighting&nbsp;</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#545454'=
>requirements of the&nbsp;</span></b><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#6A6A6A'=
>Pennsylvania</span></b><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#545454'=
>&nbsp;Vehicle Code, but must have their original lighting =
equipment.</span></b><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;&nbsp;</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I=
t looks that that statement has now even been removed from the code, as =
I am unable to find <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>i=
t anyplace on PennDot documents... <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>H=
ere is what I think is the current document that mentions nothing about =
driving after dark.. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp; <b>USE OF ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND VINTAGE REGISTRATION PLATES The use =
of antique, classic and vintage registration plates is governed by =
Section 1340 of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, which states: =E2=80=9CIt =
is unlawful for any person to operate a motorcycle or vehicle with =
antique, classic or vintage registration plates for general daily =
transportation. Permitted use shall be limited to participation in club =
activities, exhibits, tours, parades, occasional transportation and =
similar uses.=E2=80=9D Occasional transportation and similar uses are =
defined as no more than one day a week. Although buses and trucks are =
eligible for antique, classic and vintage registration plates, buses MAY =
NOT be used to transport passengers and trucks MAY NOT haul cargo. =
Antique, classic and vintage registration plates are not available for =
motorized pedalcycles or motor homes.</b>&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
a =
href=3D"http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20S=
heets/fs-ant.pdf" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%=
20Fact%20Sheets/fs-ant.pdf</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>M=
y Thoughts... <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>H=
appy Sunday :-) <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>J=
oe <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div =
id=3Dyiv2027554233DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><table class=3DMsoNormalTable border=3D1 =
cellpadding=3D0 style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #D3D4DE =
1.0pt'><tr><td width=3D55 =
style=3D'width:41.25pt;border:none;padding:9.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=3Demail&amp;utm_sou=
rce=3Dlink&amp;utm_campaign=3Dsig-email&amp;utm_content=3Dwebmail" =
target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D'text-decoration:none'><img border=3D0 =
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style=3D'width:352.5pt;border:none;padding:9.0pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'line-height:13.5pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#41424E'=
>Virus-free. <a =
href=3D"http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=3Demail&amp;utm_sou=
rce=3Dlink&amp;utm_campaign=3Dsig-email&amp;utm_content=3Dwebmail" =
target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D'color:#4453EA'>www.avg.com</span></a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
id=3Dyiv2027554233yqtfd65280><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>O=
n Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 7:17 PM rroenigk--- via Wpta &lt; <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote: =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div =
id=3Dyiv2027554233yqtfd86776><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>S=
ubject for discussion&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>A=
ntique Tags <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I=
f PA law says can=E2=80=99t drive after dark, does your insurance =
company still cover you if you do ? <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>M=
ine is American Modern and they say they go by each States restrictions =
/ guidelines&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I=
 would not be covered when driving in dark hours in PA =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>A=
ppreciate any feedback&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>T=
hx <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>R=
ich R <o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
id=3D"yiv2027554233gmail-m_514770120480091299__aol_mail_signature__"><div=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>O=
n&nbsp;Sunday, January 27, 2019,&nbsp;Bruce Stutzman via Wpta&nbsp;&lt; =
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;&nbsp;wrote: =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div =
id=3D"yiv2027554233gmail-m_514770120480091299yiv1708152483"><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>T=
omorow <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>M=
onday January 28 <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>6=
:00 pm <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>S=
uny Jims <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>_=
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