Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting

From: rroenigk--- via Wpta <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 14:23:06 +0000 (UTC)

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This all came about when friend went into PENNDOT last week to register new=
 purchase, 1966 MGB
Asked person at counter what difference is between Classic and Antique
The response was driving after dark and the insurance company may not cover=
 you
A call was made to insurance company. Response was, what ever each State re=
gulations are determines your coverage=C2=A0

This needs to be clarified=C2=A0
PENNDOT staff should know regs, not embellish

Thx
Rich R

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I agree, Ed.=C2=A0
Lucas is a genuine concern, but that pertains to more than lamps. Ha Ha!
Bill

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From: EDWARD WOODS <[email-masked]>
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Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2019 8:57 am
Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting

The only caution against driving your Triumph at night, whether it has PA c=
lassic or antique plates, it the one by Joseph Lucas. We had this discussio=
n 25 years ago. =C2=A0"Gentlemen don't motor about after dark".PennDot does=
n't care.Geez Loueez!!
Ed Woods
On January 28, 2019 at 7:45 AM rroenigk--- via Wpta <[email-masked]> w=
rote:=20
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Bill. =C2=A0I had a friend went to PENNDOT last week
The lady on desk told her that was difference between plates
And insurance company may not insure you=C2=A0
You would think they know=C2=A0

Would like to get in writing from PENNDOT
Thx
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m>=C2=A0wrote:

Even before any recent changes, there is no restriction to drive an antique=
 registered car in PA after dark as long as you lighting meets current stan=
dards. This has been true for at least the last 25 years if not longer. Man=
y people do not understand this and stick with Classic plates.=20
Bill Cooper=20
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 From: Joe Stout via Wpta <[email-masked]>=20
 To: rroenigk <[email-masked]>=20
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I looked into the after dark driving in PA in the past, and this statement =
"used" to be there....
Antique=C2=A0vehicles operated exclusively between sunrise and=C2=A0sunset=
=C2=A0are exempt from the normal lighting=C2=A0requirements of the=C2=A0Pen=
nsylvania=C2=A0Vehicle Code, but must have their original lighting equipmen=
t.=C2=A0=C2=A0
It looks that that statement has now even been removed from the code, as I =
am unable to findit anyplace on PennDot documents...
Here is what I think is the current document that mentions nothing about dr=
iving after dark..
=C2=A0 USE OF ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND VINTAGE REGISTRATION PLATES The use of a=
ntique, classic and vintage registration plates is governed by Section 1340=
 of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, which states: =E2=80=9CIt is unlawful fo=
r any person to operate a motorcycle or vehicle with antique, classic or vi=
ntage registration plates for general daily transportation. Permitted use s=
hall be limited to participation in club activities, exhibits, tours, parad=
es, occasional transportation and similar uses.=E2=80=9D Occasional transpo=
rtation and similar uses are defined as no more than one day a week. Althou=
gh buses and trucks are eligible for antique, classic and vintage registrat=
ion plates, buses MAY NOT be used to transport passengers and trucks MAY NO=
T haul cargo. Antique, classic and vintage registration plates are not avai=
lable for motorized pedalcycles or motor homes.=C2=A0
http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20Sheets/fs-a=
nt.pdf=20

My Thoughts...Happy Sunday :-)
Joe

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Subject for discussion=C2=A0
Antique Tags
If PA law says can=E2=80=99t drive after dark, does your insurance company =
still cover you if you do ?
Mine is American Modern and they say they go by each States restrictions / =
guidelines=C2=A0
I would not be covered when driving in dark hours in PA
Appreciate any feedback=C2=A0
Thx
Rich R=20
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This all came about when friend went into PENNDOT last week to register new=
 purchase, 1966 MGB<div><br></div><div>Asked person at counter what differe=
nce is between Classic and Antique</div><div><br></div><div>The response wa=
s driving after dark and the insurance company may not cover you</div><div>=
<br></div><div>A call was made to insurance company. Response was, what eve=
r each State regulations are determines your coverage&nbsp;</div><div><br><=
/div><div><br></div><div>This needs to be clarified&nbsp;</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>PENNDOT staff should know regs, not embellish</div><div><br></div><=
div><br></div><div>Thx</div><div><br></div><div>Rich R<br><br><div id=3D"__=
aol_mail_signature__"><div style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light;color:#=
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    On&nbsp;Monday, January 28, 2019,&nbsp;[email-masked]&nbsp;&lt;xj61975=
@aol.com&gt;&nbsp;wrote:
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<blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 9px;padding:0 0 0 9px;"><div id=3D"yiv995=
5300153"><div><font color=3D"black" size=3D"2" face=3D"arial">I agree, Ed.&=
nbsp;
</font><div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>

<div>Lucas is a genuine concern, but that pertains to more than lamps. Ha H=
a!</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>

<div>Bill<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">

<div class=3D"yiv9955300153yqt9458722592" id=3D"yiv9955300153yqt81371"><div=
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iginal Message-----<br clear=3D"none">
From: EDWARD WOODS &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
To: rroenigk &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; rroenigk--- via Wpta &lt;wpta@autox.=
team.net&gt;; xj61975 &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2019 8:57 am<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting<br clear=3D"none">
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<div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51, 51, 51);">The only caution against driving your Triumph at night, =
whether it has PA classic or antique plates, it the one by Joseph Lucas. We=
 had this discussion 25 years ago. &nbsp;</div>

<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51, 51, 51);">"Gentlemen don't motor about after dark".</div>

<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51, 51, 51);">PennDot doesn't care.</div>

<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51, 51, 51);">Geez Loueez!!</div>

<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51, 51, 51);"><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51, 51, 51);">Ed Woods</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On January 28, 2019 at 7:45 AM rroenigk--- via Wp=
ta &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote: <br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none=
">Bill. &nbsp;I had a friend went to PENNDOT last week
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>The lady on desk told her that was difference between plates</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>And insurance company may not insure you&nbsp;</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>You would think they know&nbsp;</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Would like to get in writing from PENNDOT</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Thx</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Rich R <br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none">
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<div><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:arial;font-size:small;">Even be=
fore any recent changes, there is no restriction to drive an antique regist=
ered car in PA after dark as long as you lighting meets current standards. =
This has been true for at least the last 25 years if not longer. Many peopl=
e do not understand this and stick with Classic plates. </span>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Bill Cooper <br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"=
<div style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black;">---=
--Original Message----- <br clear=3D"none"> From: Joe Stout via Wpta &lt;wp=
[email-masked]&gt; <br clear=3D"none"> To: rroenigk &lt;[email-masked]=
&gt; <br clear=3D"none"> Cc: wpta &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br clear=3D"=
none"> Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2019 9:10 pm <br clear=3D"none"> Subject: Re: [WP=
TA] Dzus meeting <br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none">
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<div>I looked into the after dark driving in PA in the past, and this state=
ment "used" to be there....</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div><strong><span style=3D"color:#6a6a6a;font-family:Roboto, arial, sans-s=
erif;">Antique</span><span style=3D"color:#545454;font-family:Roboto, arial=
, sans-serif;">&nbsp;vehicles operated exclusively between sunrise and&nbsp=
;</span><span style=3D"color:#6a6a6a;font-family:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;=
">sunset</span><span style=3D"color:#545454;font-family:Roboto, arial, sans=
-serif;">&nbsp;are exempt from the normal lighting&nbsp;</span></strong></d=
iv>

<div><strong><span style=3D"color:#545454;font-family:Roboto, arial, sans-s=
erif;">requirements of the&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"color:#6a6a6a;font-fa=
mily:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;">Pennsylvania</span><span style=3D"color:#5=
45454;font-family:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;Vehicle Code, but must =
have their original lighting equipment.</span>&nbsp;&nbsp;</strong></div>

<div><strong><br clear=3D"none"></strong></div>

<div>It looks that that statement has now even been removed from the code, =
as I am unable to find</div>

<div>it anyplace on PennDot documents...</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Here is what I think is the current document that mentions nothing abo=
ut driving after dark..</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>&nbsp; <strong>USE OF ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND VINTAGE REGISTRATION PLATES=
 The use of antique, classic and vintage registration plates is governed by=
 Section 1340 of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, which states: =E2=80=9CIt i=
s unlawful for any person to operate a motorcycle or vehicle with antique, =
classic or vintage registration plates for general daily transportation. Pe=
rmitted use shall be limited to participation in club activities, exhibits,=
 tours, parades, occasional transportation and similar uses.=E2=80=9D Occas=
ional transportation and similar uses are defined as no more than one day a=
 week. Although buses and trucks are eligible for antique, classic and vint=
age registration plates, buses MAY NOT be used to transport passengers and =
trucks MAY NOT haul cargo. Antique, classic and vintage registration plates=
 are not available for motorized pedalcycles or motor homes.</strong>&nbsp;=
</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

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w.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20Sheets/fs-ant.pdf">h=
ttp://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20Sheets/fs-an=
t.pdf</a> <br clear=3D"none"></div>

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<div>My Thoughts...</div>

<div>Happy Sunday :-)</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Joe</div>

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<div>Antique Tags</div>

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<div>If PA law says can=E2=80=99t drive after dark, does your insurance com=
pany still cover you if you do ?</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Mine is American Modern and they say they go by each States restrictio=
ns / guidelines&nbsp;</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>I would not be covered when driving in dark hours in PA</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Appreciate any feedback&nbsp;</div>

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<div>Thx</div>

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http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20Sheets/fs-ant.pdf

https://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI/LI/CT/HTM/75/00.013.040.000..HTM

On 1/28/2019 9:23 AM, rroenigk--- via Wpta wrote:
> This all came about when friend went into PENNDOT last week to 
> register new purchase, 1966 MGB
>
> The response was driving after dark and the insurance company may not 
> cover you
>
> A call was made to insurance company. Response was, what ever each 
> State regulations are determines your coverage
>
>
> This needs to be clarified
>
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> On Monday, January 28, 2019, [email-masked] <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>     I agree, Ed.
>
>     To: rroenigk <[email-masked]>; rroenigk--- via Wpta
>     <[email-masked]>; xj61975 <[email-masked]>
>     The only caution against driving your Triumph at night, whether it
>     has PA classic or antique plates, it the one by Joseph Lucas. We
>     had this discussion 25 years ago.
>     "Gentlemen don't motor about after dark".
>     PennDot doesn't care.
>     Geez Loueez!!
>
>     Ed Woods
>>     On January 28, 2019 at 7:45 AM rroenigk--- via Wpta
>>     <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>
>>     Bill.  I had a friend went to PENNDOT last week
>>
>>     And insurance company may not insure you
>>
>>     You would think they know
>>
>>
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>>     On Sunday, January 27, 2019, [email-masked] <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>
>>         Even before any recent changes, there is no restriction to
>>         drive an antique registered car in PA after dark as long as
>>         you lighting meets current standards. This has been true for
>>         at least the last 25 years if not longer. Many people do not
>>         understand this and stick with Classic plates.
>>
>>         Bill Cooper
>>
>>
>>         From: Joe Stout via Wpta <[email-masked]>
>>         To: rroenigk <[email-masked]>
>>         Cc: wpta <[email-masked]>
>>         Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2019 9:10 pm
>>         I looked into the after dark driving in PA in the past, and
>>         this statement "used" to be there....
>>
>>         *Antique vehicles operated exclusively between sunrise and
>>         sunset are exempt from the normal lighting *
>>         *requirements of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, but must have
>>         their original lighting equipment. *
>>         *
>>         *
>>         It looks that that statement has now even been removed from
>>         the code, as I am unable to find
>>         it anyplace on PennDot documents...
>>
>>         Here is what I think is the current document that mentions
>>         nothing about driving after dark..
>>
>>         *USE OF ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND VINTAGE REGISTRATION PLATES The
>>         use of antique, classic and vintage registration plates is
>>         governed by Section 1340 of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code,
>>         which states: “It is unlawful for any person to operate a
>>         motorcycle or vehicle with antique, classic or vintage
>>         registration plates for general daily transportation.
>>         Permitted use shall be limited to participation in club
>>         activities, exhibits, tours, parades, occasional
>>         transportation and similar uses.” Occasional transportation
>>         and similar uses are defined as no more than one day a week.
>>         Although buses and trucks are eligible for antique, classic
>>         and vintage registration plates, buses MAY NOT be used to
>>         transport passengers and trucks MAY NOT haul cargo. Antique,
>>         classic and vintage registration plates are not available for
>>         motorized pedalcycles or motor homes.*
>>
>>         http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20Sheets/fs-ant.pdf
>>
>>
>>         My Thoughts...
>>         Happy Sunday :-)
>>
>>         Joe
>>
>>
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>>         On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 7:17 PM rroenigk--- via Wpta <
>>
>>             Subject for discussion
>>
>>             Antique Tags
>>
>>             If PA law says can’t drive after dark, does your
>>             insurance company still cover you if you do ?
>>
>>             Mine is American Modern and they say they go by each
>>             States restrictions / guidelines
>>
>>             Appreciate any feedback
>>             <http://mail.mobile.aol.com>
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      This all came about when friend went into PENNDOT last week to
      register new purchase, 1966 MGB
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Asked person at counter what difference is between Classic
        and Antique</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>The response was driving after dark and the insurance company
        may not cover you</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>A call was made to insurance company. Response was, what ever
        each State regulations are determines your coverage </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>This needs to be clarified </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>PENNDOT staff should know regs, not embellish</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Thx</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Rich R<br>
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            <div><font size="2" face="arial" color="black">I agree, Ed. 
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              <div>Lucas is a genuine concern, but that pertains to more
                than lamps. Ha Ha!</div>
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              <div>Bill<br clear="none">
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                    Message-----<br clear="none">
                    From: EDWARD WOODS <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br
                      clear="none">
                    To: rroenigk <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>; rroenigk---
                    via Wpta <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>; xj61975
                    <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br clear="none">
                    Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2019 8:57 am<br clear="none">
                    Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting<br clear="none">
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                        <div
                          style="font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,
                          arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);">The
                          only caution against driving your Triumph at
                          night, whether it has PA classic or antique
                          plates, it the one by Joseph Lucas. We had
                          this discussion 25 years ago.  </div>
                        <div
                          style="font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,
                          arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);">"Gentlemen
                          don't motor about after dark".</div>
                        <div
                          style="font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,
                          arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);">PennDot
                          doesn't care.</div>
                        <div
                          style="font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,
                          arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);">Geez
                          Loueez!!</div>
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                          style="font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,
                          arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);">Ed
                          Woods</div>
                        <blockquote type="cite">On January 28, 2019 at
                          7:45 AM rroenigk--- via Wpta
                          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> wrote: <br
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                          Bill.  I had a friend went to PENNDOT last
                          week
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                          </div>
                          <div>The lady on desk told her that was
                            difference between plates</div>
                          <div><br clear="none">
                          </div>
                          <div>And insurance company may not insure you </div>
                          <div><br clear="none">
                          </div>
                          <div>You would think they know </div>
                          <div><br clear="none">
                          </div>
                          <div><br clear="none">
                          </div>
                          <div>Would like to get in writing from PENNDOT</div>
                          <div><br clear="none">
                          </div>
                          <div>Thx</div>
                          <div><br clear="none">
                          </div>
                          <div>Rich R <br clear="none">
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                              <div><span
                                  style="color:black;font-family:arial;font-size:small;">Even
                                  before any recent changes, there is no
                                  restriction to drive an antique
                                  registered car in PA after dark as
                                  long as you lighting meets current
                                  standards. This has been true for at
                                  least the last 25 years if not longer.
                                  Many people do not understand this and
                                  stick with Classic plates. </span>
                                <div><br clear="none">
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                                <div>Bill Cooper <br clear="none">
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                                              <div>I looked into the
                                                after dark driving in PA
                                                in the past, and this
                                                statement "used" to be
                                                there....</div>
                                              <div><br clear="none">
                                              </div>
                                              <div><strong><span
                                                    style="color:#6a6a6a;font-family:Roboto,
                                                    arial, sans-serif;">Antique</span><span
style="color:#545454;font-family:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;"> vehicles
                                                    operated exclusively
                                                    between sunrise and </span><span
style="color:#6a6a6a;font-family:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;">sunset</span><span
style="color:#545454;font-family:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;"> are exempt
                                                    from the normal
                                                    lighting </span></strong></div>
                                              <div><strong><span
                                                    style="color:#545454;font-family:Roboto,
                                                    arial, sans-serif;">requirements
                                                    of the </span><span
style="color:#6a6a6a;font-family:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;">Pennsylvania</span><span
style="color:#545454;font-family:Roboto, arial, sans-serif;"> Vehicle
                                                    Code, but must have
                                                    their original
                                                    lighting equipment.</span>  </strong></div>
                                              <div><strong><br
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                                                </strong></div>
                                              <div>It looks that that
                                                statement has now even
                                                been removed from the
                                                code, as I am unable to
                                                find</div>
                                              <div>it anyplace on
                                                PennDot documents...</div>
                                              <div><br clear="none">
                                              </div>
                                              <div>Here is what I think
                                                is the current document
                                                that mentions nothing
                                                about driving after
                                                dark..</div>
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                                              </div>
                                              <div>  <strong>USE OF
                                                  ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND
                                                  VINTAGE REGISTRATION
                                                  PLATES The use of
                                                  antique, classic and
                                                  vintage registration
                                                  plates is governed by
                                                  Section 1340 of the
                                                  Pennsylvania Vehicle
                                                  Code, which states:
                                                  “It is unlawful for
                                                  any person to operate
                                                  a motorcycle or
                                                  vehicle with antique,
                                                  classic or vintage
                                                  registration plates
                                                  for general daily
                                                  transportation.
                                                  Permitted use shall be
                                                  limited to
                                                  participation in club
                                                  activities, exhibits,
                                                  tours, parades,
                                                  occasional
                                                  transportation and
                                                  similar uses.”
                                                  Occasional
                                                  transportation and
                                                  similar uses are
                                                  defined as no more
                                                  than one day a week.
                                                  Although buses and
                                                  trucks are eligible
                                                  for antique, classic
                                                  and vintage
                                                  registration plates,
                                                  buses MAY NOT be used
                                                  to transport
                                                  passengers and trucks
                                                  MAY NOT haul cargo.
                                                  Antique, classic and
                                                  vintage registration
                                                  plates are not
                                                  available for
                                                  motorized pedalcycles
                                                  or motor homes.</strong> </div>
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                                              <div>My Thoughts...</div>
                                              <div>Happy Sunday :-)</div>
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                                              <div>Joe</div>
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                                                  can’t drive after
                                                  dark, does your
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                                                  still cover you if you
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                                                <div>Mine is American
                                                  Modern and they say
                                                  they go by each States
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                                                <div>I would not be
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Rich,

With all due respect, this issue has been clarified by the responses of the=
 WPTA old timers. All you'll get from PennDot is a variety of confusing ans=
wers from people who don't know what they're talking about.=20

Ed

> On January 28, 2019 at 9:23 AM [email-masked] wrote:
>=20
>     This all came about when friend went into PENNDOT last week to regist=
er new purchase, 1966 MGB
>=20
>     Asked person at counter what difference is between Classic and Antiqu=
e
>=20
>     The response was driving after dark and the insurance company may not=
 cover you
>=20
>     A call was made to insurance company. Response was, what ever each St=
ate regulations are determines your coverage=20
>=20
>=20
>     This needs to be clarified=20
>=20
>     Get the new AOL app:http://mail.mobile.aol.com
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>         > >         I agree, Ed.=20
> >         Lucas is a genuine concern, but that pertains to more than lamp=
s. Ha Ha!
> >         To: rroenigk <[email-masked]>; rroenigk--- via Wpta <wpta@aut=
ox.team.net>; xj61975 <[email-masked]>
> >         The only caution against driving your Triumph at night, whether=
 it has PA classic or antique plates, it the one by Joseph Lucas. We had th=
is discussion 25 years ago. =20
> >             > > > On January 28, 2019 at 7:45 AM rroenigk--- via Wpta <=
[email-masked]> wrote:
> > >             The lady on desk told her that was difference between pla=
tes
> > >=20
> > >             And insurance company may not insure you=20
> > >=20
> > >             You would think they know=20
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > >             Get the new AOL app:http://mail.mobile.aol.com
> > >=20
> > >             On Sunday, January 27, 2019, [email-masked] <xj61975@aol=
.com> wrote:
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > >                 > > > >                 Even before any recent change=
s, there is no restriction to drive an antique registered car in PA after d=
ark as long as you lighting meets current standards. This has been true for=
 at least the last 25 years if not longer. Many people do not understand th=
is and stick with Classic plates.
> > > >                 I looked into the after dark driving in PA in the p=
ast, and this statement "used" to be there....
> > > >=20
> > > >                 Antique vehicles operated exclusively between sunri=
se and sunset are exempt from the normal lighting=20
> > > >                 requirements of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, but =
must have their original lighting equipment. =20
> > > >=20
> > > >                 It looks that that statement has now even been remo=
ved from the code, as I am unable to find
> > > >                 Here is what I think is the current document that m=
entions nothing about driving after dark..
> > > >=20
> > > >                   USE OF ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND VINTAGE REGISTRATION =
PLATES The use of antique, classic and vintage registration plates is gover=
ned by Section 1340 of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, which states: =E2=80=
=9CIt is unlawful for any person to operate a motorcycle or vehicle with an=
tique, classic or vintage registration plates for general daily transportat=
ion. Permitted use shall be limited to participation in club activities, ex=
hibits, tours, parades, occasional transportation and similar uses.=E2=80=
=9D Occasional transportation and similar uses are defined as no more than =
one day a week. Although buses and trucks are eligible for antique, classic=
 and vintage registration plates, buses MAY NOT be used to transport passen=
gers and trucks MAY NOT haul cargo. Antique, classic and vintage registrati=
on plates are not available for motorized pedalcycles or motor homes.=20
> > > >=20
> > > >                 http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/=
BMV%20Fact%20Sheets/fs-ant.pdf
> > > >=20
> > > >                 My Thoughts...
> > > >                 Happy Sunday :-)
> > > >=20
> > > >                 Joe
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > >                 =20
> > > >=20
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> > > >                 On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 7:17 PM rroenigk--- via Wpt=
a < [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked] > wrote:
> > > >                     > > > > >                     Subject for discu=
ssion=20
> > > > >=20
> > > > >                     Antique Tags
> > > > >=20
> > > > >                     If PA law says can=E2=80=99t drive after dark=
, does your insurance company still cover you if you do ?
> > > > >=20
> > > > >                     Mine is American Modern and they say they go =
by each States restrictions / guidelines=20
> > > > >=20
> > > > >                     I would not be covered when driving in dark h=
ours in PA
> > > > >=20
> > > > >                     Appreciate any feedback=20
> > > > >=20
> > > > >                     Thx
> > > > >=20
> > > > >                     Rich R
> > > > >=20
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> > > > >                     On Sunday, January 27, 2019, Bruce Stutzman v=
ia Wpta < [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked] > wrote:
> > > > >                         > > > > > >                         Tomor=
ow
> > > > > >                         Monday January 28
> > > > > >                         6:00 pm
> > > > > >                         Suny Jims
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p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; colo=
r: rgb(51, 51, 51);">With all due respect, this issue has been clarified by=
 the responses of the WPTA old timers. All you&#39;ll get from PennDot is a=
 variety of confusing answers from people who don&#39;t know what they&#39;=
re talking about.&#160;</p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvet=
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);">Ed</p><blockquote type=3D"cite">On January 28, 2019 at 9:23 AM rroenigk=
@aol.com wrote: <br> <br>This all came about when friend went into PENNDOT =
last week to register new purchase, 1966 MGB<div><br></div><div>Asked perso=
n at counter what difference is between Classic and Antique</div><div><br><=
/div><div>The response was driving after dark and the insurance company may=
 not cover you</div><div><br></div><div>A call was made to insurance compan=
y. Response was, what ever each State regulations are determines your cover=
age&#160;</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>This needs to be clarifie=
d&#160;</div><div><br></div><div>PENNDOT staff should know regs, not embell=
ish</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Thx</div><div><br></div><div>Ri=
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m</a></div><br><div class=3D"ox-a83e7c1b30-aolmail_replyHeader">On&#160;Mon=
day, January 28, 2019,&#160;[email-masked]&#160;&#60;[email-masked]&#62;&=
#160;wrote:</div><br><blockquote><div><span style=3D"color: black; font-fam=
ily: arial; font-size: small;">I agree, Ed.&#160; </span><div><br clear=3D"=
none"></div><div>Lucas is a genuine concern, but that pertains to more than=
 lamps. Ha Ha!</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Bill <br clear=3D"no=
ne"> <br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"ox-a83e7c1b30-yiv=
9955300153yqt9458722592" id=3D"ox-a83e7c1b30-yiv9955300153yqt81371"><div st=
yle=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: black;">-----=
Original Message----- <br clear=3D"none"> From: EDWARD WOODS &#60;fogbro1@c=
omcast.net&#62; <br clear=3D"none"> To: rroenigk &#60;[email-masked]&#62;=
; rroenigk--- via Wpta &#60;[email-masked]&#62;; xj61975 &#60;xj61975@=
aol.com&#62; <br clear=3D"none"> Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2019 8:57 am <br clear=
=3D"none"> Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting <br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=
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ize: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: #333333;">The =
only caution against driving your Triumph at night, whether it has PA class=
ic or antique plates, it the one by Joseph Lucas. We had this discussion 25=
 years ago. &#160;</div><div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helveti=
ca, arial, sans-serif; color: #333333;">&#34;Gentlemen don&#39;t motor abou=
t after dark&#34;.</div><div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helveti=
ca, arial, sans-serif; color: #333333;">PennDot doesn&#39;t care.</div><div=
 style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color=
: #333333;">Geez Loueez!!</div><div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
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v style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; colo=
r: #333333;">Ed Woods</div><blockquote type=3D"cite">On January 28, 2019 at=
 7:45 AM rroenigk--- via Wpta &#60;[email-masked]&#62; wrote: <br clea=
r=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none">Bill. &#160;I had a friend went to PENNDOT l=
ast week<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>The lady on desk told her that w=
as difference between plates</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>And in=
surance company may not insure you&#160;</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div=
><div>You would think they know&#160;</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><d=
iv><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Would like to get in writing from PENNDOT<=
/div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Thx</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></=
div><div>Rich R <br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"><div style=3D"font-f=
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r=3D"none"><div class=3D"ox-a83e7c1b30-yiv9955300153ox-21ad06c92a-aolmail_r=
eplyHeader">On&#160;Sunday, January 27, 2019,&#160;[email-masked]&#160;&#6=
0;[email-masked]&#62;&#160;wrote:</div><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote><div=
><span style=3D"color: black; font-family: arial; font-size: small;">Even b=
efore any recent changes, there is no restriction to drive an antique regis=
tered car in PA after dark as long as you lighting meets current standards.=
 This has been true for at least the last 25 years if not longer. Many peop=
le do not understand this and stick with Classic plates. </span><div><br cl=
ear=3D"none"></div><div>Bill Cooper <br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none">=
 <br clear=3D"none"><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size:=
 10pt; color: black;">-----Original Message----- <br clear=3D"none"> From: =
Joe Stout via Wpta &#60;[email-masked]&#62; <br clear=3D"none"> To: rr=
oenigk &#60;[email-masked]&#62; <br clear=3D"none"> Cc: wpta &#60;wpta@au=
tox.team.net&#62; <br clear=3D"none"> Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2019 9:10 pm <br c=
lear=3D"none"> Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting <br clear=3D"none"> <br cle=
ar=3D"none"><div class=3D"ox-a83e7c1b30-yiv9955300153ox-21ad06c92a-yiv36876=
56312yqt8390187375" id=3D"ox-a83e7c1b30-yiv9955300153ox-21ad06c92a-yiv36876=
56312yqt03638"><div id=3D"ox-a83e7c1b30-yiv9955300153ox-21ad06c92a-yiv36876=
56312"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"><div>I loo=
ked into the after dark driving in PA in the past, and this statement &#34;=
used&#34; to be there....</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><strong><=
span style=3D"color: #6a6a6a; font-family: Roboto, arial, sans-serif;">Anti=
que</span><span style=3D"color: #545454; font-family: Roboto, arial, sans-s=
erif;">&#160;vehicles operated exclusively between sunrise and&#160;</span>=
<span style=3D"color: #6a6a6a; font-family: Roboto, arial, sans-serif;">sun=
set</span><span style=3D"color: #545454; font-family: Roboto, arial, sans-s=
erif;">&#160;are exempt from the normal lighting&#160;</span></strong></div=
><div><strong><span style=3D"color: #545454; font-family: Roboto, arial, sa=
ns-serif;">requirements of the&#160;</span><span style=3D"color: #6a6a6a; f=
ont-family: Roboto, arial, sans-serif;">Pennsylvania</span><span style=3D"c=
olor: #545454; font-family: Roboto, arial, sans-serif;">&#160;Vehicle Code,=
 but must have their original lighting equipment.</span>&#160;&#160;</stron=
g></div><div><strong><br clear=3D"none"></strong></div><div>It looks that t=
hat statement has now even been removed from the code, as I am unable to fi=
nd</div><div>it anyplace on PennDot documents...</div><div><br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><div>Here is what I think is the current document that mentions no=
thing about driving after dark..</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>&#=
160; <strong>USE OF ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND VINTAGE REGISTRATION PLATES The us=
e of antique, classic and vintage registration plates is governed by Sectio=
n 1340 of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, which states: &#8220;It is unlawfu=
l for any person to operate a motorcycle or vehicle with antique, classic o=
r vintage registration plates for general daily transportation. Permitted u=
se shall be limited to participation in club activities, exhibits, tours, p=
arades, occasional transportation and similar uses.&#8221; Occasional trans=
portation and similar uses are defined as no more than one day a week. Alth=
ough buses and trucks are eligible for antique, classic and vintage registr=
ation plates, buses MAY NOT be used to transport passengers and trucks MAY =
NOT haul cargo. Antique, classic and vintage registration plates are not av=
ailable for motorized pedalcycles or motor homes.</strong>&#160;</div><div>=
<br clear=3D"none"></div><div><a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.dot.s=
tate.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20Sheets/fs-ant.pdf" rel=3D"n=
oopener">http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20Sh=
eets/fs-ant.pdf</a> <br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>=
<div>My Thoughts...</div><div>Happy Sunday :-)</div><div><br clear=3D"none"=
></div><div>Joe</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none">=
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-yiv3687656312gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 7:17 PM rroen=
igk--- via Wpta &#60; <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
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c92a-yiv3687656312yqtfd86776">Subject for discussion&#160;<div><br clear=3D=
"none"></div><div>Antique Tags</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>If P=
A law says can&#8217;t drive after dark, does your insurance company still =
cover you if you do ?</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Mine is Ameri=
can Modern and they say they go by each States restrictions / guidelines&#1=
60;</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>I would not be covered when dri=
ving in dark hours in PA</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Appreciate=
 any feedback&#160;</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Thx</div><div><=
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Lord please put this topic to bed.

On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 1:09 PM Bill Kern via Wpta <[email-masked]>
wrote:

>
> http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20Sheets/fs=
-ant.pdf
> This all came about when friend went into PENNDOT last week to register
> new purchase, 1966 MGB
>
> A call was made to insurance company. Response was, what ever each State
> regulations are determines your coverage
>
>
> On Monday, January 28, 2019, [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
> <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> I agree, Ed.
>
> From: EDWARD WOODS <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
> To: rroenigk <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>; rroenigk--- via Wpta
> <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>; xj61975 <[email-masked]>
> <[email-masked]>
> The only caution against driving your Triumph at night, whether it has PA
> classic or antique plates, it the one by Joseph Lucas. We had this
> discussion 25 years ago.
> On January 28, 2019 at 7:45 AM rroenigk--- via Wpta <[email-masked]>
> On Sunday, January 27, 2019, [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
> <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> Even before any recent changes, there is no restriction to drive an
> antique registered car in PA after dark as long as you lighting meets
> current standards. This has been true for at least the last 25 years if n=
ot
> longer. Many people do not understand this and stick with Classic plates.
>
> Bill Cooper
>
>
> From: Joe Stout via Wpta <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
> To: rroenigk <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
> Cc: wpta <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
> I looked into the after dark driving in PA in the past, and this statemen=
t
> "used" to be there....
>
> *Antique vehicles operated exclusively between sunrise and sunset are
> exempt from the normal lighting *
> *requirements of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, but must have their
> original lighting equipment.  *
>
> It looks that that statement has now even been removed from the code, as =
I
> Here is what I think is the current document that mentions nothing about
> driving after dark..
>
>   *USE OF ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND VINTAGE REGISTRATION PLATES The use of
> antique, classic and vintage registration plates is governed by Section
> 1340 of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, which states: =E2=80=9CIt is unlaw=
ful for
> any person to operate a motorcycle or vehicle with antique, classic or
> vintage registration plates for general daily transportation. Permitted u=
se
> shall be limited to participation in club activities, exhibits, tours,
> parades, occasional transportation and similar uses.=E2=80=9D Occasional
> transportation and similar uses are defined as no more than one day a wee=
k.
> Although buses and trucks are eligible for antique, classic and vintage
> registration plates, buses MAY NOT be used to transport passengers and
> trucks MAY NOT haul cargo. Antique, classic and vintage registration plat=
es
> are not available for motorized pedalcycles or motor homes.*
>
>
> http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20Sheets/fs=
-ant.pdf
>
> My Thoughts...
> Happy Sunday :-)
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>
>
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> On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 7:17 PM rroenigk--- via Wpta < [email-masked]=
t>
> wrote:
>
> Subject for discussion
>
> Antique Tags
>
> If PA law says can=E2=80=99t drive after dark, does your insurance compan=
y still
> cover you if you do ?
>
> Mine is American Modern and they say they go by each States restrictions =
/
> guidelines
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Lord please put this topic to bed.=C2=A0</div><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 28, 20=
19 at 1:09 PM Bill Kern via Wpta &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204=
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    <p><a class=3D"gmail-m_-6473441838394630818moz-txt-link-freetext" href=
=3D"http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20Sheets/=
fs-ant.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsform=
s/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20Sheets/fs-ant.pdf</a><br>
      <br>
<a class=3D"gmail-m_-6473441838394630818moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http=
s://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI/LI/CT/HTM/75/00.013.040.000..HTM" target=
=3D"_blank">https://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI/LI/CT/HTM/75/00.013.040.0=
00..HTM</a><br>
      <br>
    </p>
    <div class=3D"gmail-m_-6473441838394630818moz-cite-prefix">On 1/28/2019=
 9:23 AM, rroenigk--- via
      Wpta wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
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      This all came about when friend went into PENNDOT last week to
      register new purchase, 1966 MGB
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Asked person at counter what difference is between Classic
        and Antique</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>The response was driving after dark and the insurance company
        may not cover you</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>A call was made to insurance company. Response was, what ever
        each State regulations are determines your coverage=C2=A0</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>This needs to be clarified=C2=A0</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>PENNDOT staff should know regs, not embellish</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Thx</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Rich R<br>
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          2019,=C2=A0<a class=3D"gmail-m_-6473441838394630818moz-txt-link-a=
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            <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"arial" color=3D"black">I agree, E=
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              <div>Lucas is a genuine concern, but that pertains to more
                than lamps. Ha Ha!</div>
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              <div>Bill<br clear=3D"none">
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;[email-masked]&gt;</a>; rroenigk---
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                    Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2019 8:57 am<br clear=3D"none">
                    Subject: Re: [WPTA] Dzus meeting<br clear=3D"none">
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                        <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,=
arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">The
                          only caution against driving your Triumph at
                          night, whether it has PA classic or antique
                          plates, it the one by Joseph Lucas. We had
                          this discussion 25 years ago. =C2=A0</div>
                        <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,=
arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">&quot;Gentlemen
                          don&#39;t motor about after dark&quot;.</div>
                        <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,=
arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">PennDot
                          doesn&#39;t care.</div>
                        <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,=
arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Geez
                          Loueez!!</div>
                        <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,=
arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br clear=3D"none">
                        </div>
                        <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,=
arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Ed
                          Woods</div>
                        <blockquote type=3D"cite">On January 28, 2019 at
                          7:45 AM rroenigk--- via Wpta
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ink-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">&lt;wpt=
[email-masked]&gt;</a> wrote: <br clear=3D"none">
                          <br clear=3D"none">
                          Bill.=C2=A0 I had a friend went to PENNDOT last
                          week
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                          <div>The lady on desk told her that was
                            difference between plates</div>
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                          <div>And insurance company may not insure you=C2=
=A0</div>
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                          <div>You would think they know=C2=A0</div>
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                          <div>Would like to get in writing from PENNDOT</d=
iv>
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                          <div>Thx</div>
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                          <div>Rich R <br clear=3D"none">
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                              <div><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:a=
rial;font-size:small">Even
                                  before any recent changes, there is no
                                  restriction to drive an antique
                                  registered car in PA after dark as
                                  long as you lighting meets current
                                  standards. This has been true for at
                                  least the last 25 years if not longer.
                                  Many people do not understand this and
                                  stick with Classic plates. </span>
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one">
                                              <div>I looked into the
                                                after dark driving in PA
                                                in the past, and this
                                                statement &quot;used&quot; =
to be
                                                there....</div>
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                                              <div><strong><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(106,106,106);font-family:Roboto,arial,sans-serif">Antique</span><s=
pan style=3D"color:rgb(84,84,84);font-family:Roboto,arial,sans-serif">=C2=
=A0vehicles
                                                    operated exclusively
                                                    between sunrise and=C2=
=A0</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(106,106,106);font-family:Roboto,arial,sa=
ns-serif">sunset</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(84,84,84);font-family:Robot=
o,arial,sans-serif">=C2=A0are exempt
                                                    from the normal
                                                    lighting=C2=A0</span></=
strong></div>
                                              <div><strong><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(84,84,84);font-family:Roboto,arial,sans-serif">requirements
                                                    of the=C2=A0</span><spa=
n style=3D"color:rgb(106,106,106);font-family:Roboto,arial,sans-serif">Penn=
sylvania</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(84,84,84);font-family:Roboto,arial,=
sans-serif">=C2=A0Vehicle
                                                    Code, but must have
                                                    their original
                                                    lighting equipment.</sp=
an>=C2=A0=C2=A0</strong></div>
                                              <div><strong><br clear=3D"non=
e">
                                                </strong></div>
                                              <div>It looks that that
                                                statement has now even
                                                been removed from the
                                                code, as I am unable to
                                                find</div>
                                              <div>it anyplace on
                                                PennDot documents...</div>
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                                              <div>Here is what I think
                                                is the current document
                                                that mentions nothing
                                                about driving after
                                                dark..</div>
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                                              </div>
                                              <div>=C2=A0 <strong>USE OF
                                                  ANTIQUE, CLASSIC AND
                                                  VINTAGE REGISTRATION
                                                  PLATES The use of
                                                  antique, classic and
                                                  vintage registration
                                                  plates is governed by
                                                  Section 1340 of the
                                                  Pennsylvania Vehicle
                                                  Code, which states:
                                                  =E2=80=9CIt is unlawful f=
or
                                                  any person to operate
                                                  a motorcycle or
                                                  vehicle with antique,
                                                  classic or vintage
                                                  registration plates
                                                  for general daily
                                                  transportation.
                                                  Permitted use shall be
                                                  limited to
                                                  participation in club
                                                  activities, exhibits,
                                                  tours, parades,
                                                  occasional
                                                  transportation and
                                                  similar uses.=E2=80=9D
                                                  Occasional
                                                  transportation and
                                                  similar uses are
                                                  defined as no more
                                                  than one day a week.
                                                  Although buses and
                                                  trucks are eligible
                                                  for antique, classic
                                                  and vintage
                                                  registration plates,
                                                  buses MAY NOT be used
                                                  to transport
                                                  passengers and trucks
                                                  MAY NOT haul cargo.
                                                  Antique, classic and
                                                  vintage registration
                                                  plates are not
                                                  available for
                                                  motorized pedalcycles
                                                  or motor homes.</strong>=
=C2=A0</div>
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                                              <div><a rel=3D"nofollow" shap=
e=3D"rect" href=3D"http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%2=
0Fact%20Sheets/fs-ant.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://www.dot.state.pa.us/pub=
lic/dvspubsforms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20Sheets/fs-ant.pdf</a>
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                                              <div>My Thoughts...</div>
                                              <div>Happy Sunday :-)</div>
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                                              <div>Joe</div>
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                                                <div>If PA law says
                                                  can=E2=80=99t drive after
                                                  dark, does your
                                                  insurance company
                                                  still cover you if you
                                                  do ?</div>
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                                                <div>Mine is American
                                                  Modern and they say
                                                  they go by each States
                                                  restrictions /
                                                  guidelines=C2=A0</div>
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                                                <div>I would not be
                                                  covered when driving
                                                  in dark hours in PA</div>
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                                                <div>Appreciate any
                                                  feedback=C2=A0</div>
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                                                <div>Thx</div>
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