Subject: Re: [TR] Is removing the TR4 front plate in situ possible?

From: Allen Hess <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2026 15:09:34 -0400

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I don=E2=80=99t have experience with this scenario but I think you should lo=
ok at putting the frame on blocks and taking the wheels off. Then I think th=
e motor mount nuts will be accessible from the rear. A Gearwrench ratchet or=
 long handled wrench may be desirable.=20
Good luck,
Allen=E2=80=9963 4 since =E2=80=9967

> On Jul 6, 2026, at 5:07=E2=80=AFPM, J.C. Hassall <[email-masked]> wrot=
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> I've discovered that the front plate gasket leaks.  I've removed the radia=
tor, alternator and stripped all the bits stripped off the front of the engi=
ne.  My plan was to loosen both ends of both engine mounts and raise the eng=
ine in situ with a jack (don't have a hoist anymore), replace the plate and d=
eclare victory.  Ha!  I have the car on QuickJacks (no plug, but they're gre=
at!), but have hit a wall.  I just can't access the bottom nuts on either en=
gine mount.  I thought I could loosen the mounts enough to lift the engine, b=
ut with the mounts rigidly mounted to the frame, the angle of the mount bolt=
s works against me.  Has anyone done this before?  I could probably force re=
moval but reinstallation with the mounts immovable would be non-starter, I t=
hink.
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"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">I don=E2=80=99t have experience with this scenario b=
ut I think you should look at putting the frame on blocks and taking the whe=
els off. Then I think the motor mount nuts will be accessible from the rear.=
 A Gearwrench ratchet or long handled wrench may be desirable.&nbsp;</div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">Good luck,</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Allen=E2=80=9963 4 since =E2=
=80=9967</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jul 6, 2026,=
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/blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><div><br clear=3D"all"></div><div>I've discovered that the front p=
late gasket leaks.&nbsp; I've removed the radiator, alternator and stripped a=
ll the bits stripped off the front of the engine.&nbsp; My plan was to loose=
n both ends of both engine mounts and raise the engine in situ with a jack (=
don't have a hoist anymore),&nbsp;<span style=3D"background-color:transparen=
t">replace the plate and declare victory.&nbsp; Ha!&nbsp; I have the car on Q=
uickJacks (no plug, but they're great!), but have hit a wall.&nbsp; I just c=
an't access the bottom nuts on either engine mount.&nbsp; I thought I could l=
oosen the mounts enough to lift the engine, but with the mounts rigidly moun=
ted to the frame, the angle of the mount bolts works against me.&nbsp; Has a=
nyone done this before?&nbsp; I could probably force removal but reinstallat=
ion with the mounts immovable would be non-starter, I think.</span></div><di=
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From: DAVE HOGYE <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2026 06:53:35 -0700 (PDT)

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Hi Jim,
I think I understand the situation.  I found that the engine was easier to =
remove or drop into place on the frame, if one mount was bolted the plate a=
nd the other to the frame.  Then the angle of the studs on the top side of =
the mounts did not interfere as they would if both mounts were secured to t=
he frame.  I think this could work for just removing the front plate.  Remo=
ve one side from the frame and the other from the plate depending on access=
.=20
Dave H.=20

> On 07/07/2026 12:09 PM PDT Allen Hess <[email-masked]> wrote:
> =20
> =20
> I don=E2=80=99t have experience with this scenario but I think you should=
 look at putting the frame on blocks and taking the wheels off. Then I thin=
k the motor mount nuts will be accessible from the rear. A Gearwrench ratch=
et or long handled wrench may be desirable.=20
> > On Jul 6, 2026, at 5:07=E2=80=AFPM, J.C. Hassall <[email-masked]> w=
rote:
> >=20
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> > I've discovered that the front plate gasket leaks.  I've removed the ra=
diator, alternator and stripped all the bits stripped off the front of the =
engine.  My plan was to loosen both ends of both engine mounts and raise th=
e engine in situ with a jack (don't have a hoist anymore), replace the plat=
e and declare victory.  Ha!  I have the car on QuickJacks (no plug, but the=
y're great!), but have hit a wall.  I just can't access the bottom nuts on =
either engine mount.  I thought I could loosen the mounts enough to lift th=
e engine, but with the mounts rigidly mounted to the frame, the angle of th=
e mount bolts works against me.  Has anyone done this before?  I could prob=
ably force removal but reinstallation with the mounts immovable would be no=
n-starter, I think.
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   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">I think I under=
stand the situation.&nbsp; I found that the engine was easier to remove or =
drop into place on the frame, if one mount was bolted the plate and the oth=
er to the frame.&nbsp; Then the angle of the studs on the top side of the m=
ounts did not interfere as they would if both mounts were secured to the fr=
ame.&nbsp; I think this could work for just removing the front plate.&nbsp;=
 Remove one side from the frame and the other from the plate depending on a=
ccess.&nbsp;</span>
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    I don=E2=80=99t have experience with this scenario but I think you shou=
ld look at putting the frame on blocks and taking the wheels off. Then I th=
ink the motor mount nuts will be accessible from the rear. A Gearwrench rat=
chet or long handled wrench may be desirable.&nbsp;
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       I've discovered that the front plate gasket leaks.&nbsp; I've remove=
d the radiator, alternator and stripped all the bits stripped off the front=
 of the engine.&nbsp; My plan was to loosen both ends of both engine mounts=
 and raise the engine in situ with a jack (don't have a hoist anymore),&nbs=
p;<span style=3D"background-color: transparent;">replace the plate and decl=
are victory.&nbsp; Ha!&nbsp; I have the car on QuickJacks (no plug, but the=
y're great!), but have hit a wall.&nbsp; I just can't access the bottom nut=
s on either engine mount.&nbsp; I thought I could loosen the mounts enough =
to lift the engine, but with the mounts rigidly mounted to the frame, the a=
ngle of the mount bolts works against me.&nbsp; Has anyone done this before=
?&nbsp; I could probably force removal but reinstallation with the mounts i=
mmovable would be non-starter, I think.</span>
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From: "J.C. Hassall" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2026 11:42:26 -0400

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Hi Dave,

Thanks for your tip.  Although I read it after I replaced the front plate,
that's basically the method we used.  I found an easier ("less difficult"?)
to access the underside engine mount nuts.  I'll document the entire
process in case someone else is faced with this task.

Cheers,

jim

All

On Sat, Jul 11, 2026 at 9:53=E2=80=AFAM DAVE HOGYE <[email-masked]> wr=
ote:

> Hi Jim,
> I think I understand the situation.  I found that the engine was easier t=
o
> remove or drop into place on the frame, if one mount was bolted the plate
> and the other to the frame.  Then the angle of the studs on the top side =
of
> the mounts did not interfere as they would if both mounts were secured to
> the frame.  I think this could work for just removing the front plate.
> Remove one side from the frame and the other from the plate depending on
> access.
> Dave H.
>
 look at
> putting the frame on blocks and taking the wheels off. Then I think the
> motor mount nuts will be accessible from the rear. A Gearwrench ratchet o=
r
> long handled wrench may be desirable.
> Good luck,
> On Jul 6, 2026, at 5:07=E2=80=AFPM, J.C. Hassall <[email-masked]> wro=
te:
>
>
> I've discovered that the front plate gasket leaks.  I've removed the
> radiator, alternator and stripped all the bits stripped off the front of
> the engine.  My plan was to loosen both ends of both engine mounts and
> raise the engine in situ with a jack (don't have a hoist anymore), replac=
e
> the plate and declare victory.  Ha!  I have the car on QuickJacks (no plu=
g,
> but they're great!), but have hit a wall.  I just can't access the bottom
> nuts on either engine mount.  I thought I could loosen the mounts enough =
to
> lift the engine, but with the mounts rigidly mounted to the frame, the
> angle of the mount bolts works against me.  Has anyone done this before? =
 I
> could probably force removal but reinstallation with the mounts immovable
> would be non-starter, I think.
>
> Haaaalp!
> --
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Dave,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for your tip.=C2=A0 Alt=
hough I read it after I replaced the front plate, that&#39;s basically the =
method we used.=C2=A0 I found an easier (&quot;less difficult&quot;?) to ac=
cess the underside engine mount nuts.=C2=A0 I&#39;ll document the entire pr=
ocess in case someone else is faced with this task.</div><div><br></div><di=
v>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>jim</div><div><br></div><div>All</div></=
div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" c=
lass=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 11, 2026 at 9:53=E2=80=AFAM DAVE HOGYE &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
r></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
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:rgb(51,51,51)">
   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">I think I understan=
d the situation.=C2=A0 I found that the engine was easier to remove or drop=
 into place on the frame, if one mount was bolted the plate and the other t=
o the frame.=C2=A0 Then the angle of the studs on the top side of the mount=
s did not interfere as they would if both mounts were secured to the frame.=
=C2=A0 I think this could work for just removing the front plate.=C2=A0 Rem=
ove one side from the frame and the other from the plate depending on acces=
s.=C2=A0</span>
  </div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">Dave H.=C2=A0</span=
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   <div>
    On 07/07/2026 12:09 PM PDT Allen Hess &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:allen.k.hes=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
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    I don=E2=80=99t have experience with this scenario but I think you shou=
ld look at putting the frame on blocks and taking the wheels off. Then I th=
ink the motor mount nuts will be accessible from the rear. A Gearwrench rat=
chet or long handled wrench may be desirable.=C2=A0
   </div>=20
   <div dir=3D"ltr">
    Good luck,
   </div>=20
   <div dir=3D"ltr">
    Allen=E2=80=9963 4 since =E2=80=9967
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:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
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       I&#39;ve discovered that the front plate gasket leaks.=C2=A0 I&#39;v=
e removed the radiator, alternator and stripped all the bits stripped off t=
he front of the engine.=C2=A0 My plan was to loosen both ends of both engin=
e mounts and raise the engine in situ with a jack (don&#39;t have a hoist a=
nymore),=C2=A0<span style=3D"background-color:transparent">replace the plat=
e and declare victory.=C2=A0 Ha!=C2=A0 I have the car on QuickJacks (no plu=
g, but they&#39;re great!), but have hit a wall.=C2=A0 I just can&#39;t acc=
ess the bottom nuts on either engine mount.=C2=A0 I thought I could loosen =
the mounts enough to lift the engine, but with the mounts rigidly mounted t=
o the frame, the angle of the mount bolts works against me.=C2=A0 Has anyon=
e done this before?=C2=A0 I could probably force removal but reinstallation=
 with the mounts immovable would be non-starter, I think.</span>
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