Subject: [TR] Fuel cost - for fun?

From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 14:53:42 -0600

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Well, for reference, Jonmac, distances in this country are a little greater
than yours and public transportation is absent in much of the US.

My state of New Mexico alone is almost 30% greater in land area than all of
the UK.

The idea that the furthest point from the sea could be only 70 miles
continues to amaze people here.

We=E2=80=99d be in the streets with pitchforks and torches if/when fuel pri=
ces here
reach yours!

On Tuesday, May 12, 2026, John Macartney <[email-masked]> wrote:

> My iPad news feed tells me lots of people in the US are getting =E2=80=98=
rather
> agitated=E2=80=99 and =E2=80=98a bit miffed=E2=80=99 at gasoline prices h=
itting the USD4.50 per US
> gallon.
>
> So?
>
> I went to fill up our daily driver today (Kia Sportage hybrid) and
> arriving at the supermarket, saw that 95 octane E10 unleaded has gone up
> yet again, so a part-refill was soon decided.
>
>  For comparative purposes, the equivalent cost in USDs using UK prices is
> this. Our fuel is sold now only in litres and no longer imperial gallons =
as
> heretofore.
>
> One US gallon is equal to 3.785 litres.
> One litre here costs GBP 1.59 per litre
> One US gallon in GB pounds is 3.785x1.59 =3D GBP6.02
> Multiply the GBP6.02 by 1.35 to turn them into USDs and the figure is
> USD8.127 per US gallon price in the UK. Europe isn=E2=80=99t too much dif=
ferent
> either.
>
> Basically, double what our =E2=80=98a bit miffed=E2=80=99 enthusiast frie=
nds are paying on
> t=E2=80=99other side o=E2=80=99t pond, so count your blessings, friends.
>
>  It broke my heart when I sold my two Triumph Big Sixes some years ago bu=
t
> if I=E2=80=99d kept them, as sure as hell I=E2=80=99d no longer be able t=
o afford keeping
> them to enjoy their continued and delightful use. Perhaps those who paid =
me
> a lot less than either was worth at the time, are now limited in only bei=
ng
> able to look at them and making brrrmmm brrrmmm noises sitting in the
> driving seat. I hope so. The only good news coming out of this chaotic
> international bloody mess both at home and abroad is the Hybrid Kia
> Sportage with part time electric power and regenerative braking is still
> giving us 57mpg on mixed rural and urban use. Being very gentle, 61-63mpg
> is also available - but for how much longer?
>
> Jonmac
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Well, for reference, Jonmac, distances in this country are a little greater=
 than yours and public transportation is absent in much of the US.=C2=A0<di=
v><br></div><div>My state of New Mexico alone is almost 30% greater in land=
 area than all of the UK.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>The idea that the =
furthest point from the sea could be only 70 miles continues to amaze peopl=
e here.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>We=E2=80=99d be in the streets with =
pitchforks and torches if/when fuel prices here reach yours!<br><br>On Tues=
day, May 12, 2026, John Macartney &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:johnbmacartney@gmx.=
com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc soli=
d;padding-left:1ex">My iPad news feed tells me lots of people in the US are=
 getting =E2=80=98rather agitated=E2=80=99 and =E2=80=98a bit miffed=E2=80=
=99 at gasoline prices hitting the USD4.50 per US gallon. <br>
<br>
So?<br>
<br>
I went to fill up our daily driver today (Kia Sportage hybrid) and arriving=
 at the supermarket, saw that 95 octane E10 unleaded has gone up yet again,=
 so a part-refill was soon decided.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0For comparative purposes, the equivalent cost in USDs using UK prices=
 is this. Our fuel is sold now only in litres and no longer imperial gallon=
s as heretofore.<br>
<br>
One US gallon is equal to 3.785 litres.<br>
One litre here costs GBP 1.59 per litre<br>
One US gallon in GB pounds is 3.785x1.59 =3D GBP6.02<br>
Multiply the GBP6.02 by 1.35 to turn them into USDs and the figure is USD8.=
127 per US gallon price in the UK. Europe isn=E2=80=99t too much different =
either.<br>
<br>
Basically, double what our =E2=80=98a bit miffed=E2=80=99 enthusiast friend=
s are paying on t=E2=80=99other side o=E2=80=99t pond, so count your blessi=
ngs, friends.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0It broke my heart when I sold my two Triumph Big Sixes some years ago=
 but if I=E2=80=99d kept them, as sure as hell I=E2=80=99d no longer be abl=
e to afford keeping them to enjoy their continued and delightful use. Perha=
ps those who paid me a lot less than either was worth at the time, are now =
limited in only being able to look at them and making brrrmmm brrrmmm noise=
s sitting in the driving seat. I hope so. The only good news coming out of =
this chaotic international bloody mess both at home and abroad is the Hybri=
d Kia Sportage with part time electric power and regenerative braking is st=
ill giving us 57mpg on mixed rural and urban use. Being very gentle, 61-63m=
pg is also available - but for how much longer?<br>
<br>
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From: John Innis <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 17:26:42 -0500

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Do bear in mind that in additional to the various differences in sources of
materials and transportation cost, there is also a considerable difference
in the tax structure between the US and other parts of the world.  US
federal gasoline tax is $0.184 per gallon.  In addition to that we have
various excise tax imposed by states, some as high as $0.60 per gallon.
There are also various state and local sales tax, which is based on the
total cost of the fuel, rather than a set per gallon tax.  Generally the
highest total tax on gasoline in the US is about $0.90 per gallon.  Compare
that to the UK, which I understand has a tax of 52.95p per litre fuel duty
plus 20%VAT.  Basically half of the cost of fuel in the UK is taxes.  Vs in
the US it is more like 20%.

On Tue, May 12, 2026 at 3:07=E2=80=AFPM John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gmx.=
com>

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me
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Do bear in mind that in additional to the various differen=
ces in sources of materials and transportation cost, there is also a consid=
erable difference in the tax structure between the US and other parts of th=
e world.=C2=A0 US federal gasoline tax is $0.184 per gallon.=C2=A0 In addit=
ion to that we have various excise tax imposed by states, some as high as $=
0.60 per gallon. There are also various state and local sales tax, which is=
 based on the total cost of the fuel, rather than a set per gallon tax.=C2=
=A0 Generally the highest total tax on gasoline in the US is about $0.90 pe=
r gallon.=C2=A0 Compare that to the UK, which I understand has a tax of 52.=
95p per litre fuel duty plus 20%VAT.=C2=A0 Basically half of the cost of fu=
el in the UK is taxes.=C2=A0 Vs in the US it is more like 20%.=C2=A0=C2=A0<=
/div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, May 12, 2026 at 3:07=E2=80=AFPM John Macartney=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0p=
x 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">My iPa=
d news feed tells me lots of people in the US are getting =E2=80=98rather a=
gitated=E2=80=99 and =E2=80=98a bit miffed=E2=80=99 at gasoline prices hitt=
ing the USD4.50 per US gallon. <br>
<br>
So?<br>
<br>
I went to fill up our daily driver today (Kia Sportage hybrid) and arriving=
 at the supermarket, saw that 95 octane E10 unleaded has gone up yet again,=
 so a part-refill was soon decided.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0For comparative purposes, the equivalent cost in USDs using UK prices=
 is this. Our fuel is sold now only in litres and no longer imperial gallon=
s as heretofore.<br>
<br>
One US gallon is equal to 3.785 litres.<br>
One litre here costs GBP 1.59 per litre<br>
One US gallon in GB pounds is 3.785x1.59 =3D GBP6.02<br>
Multiply the GBP6.02 by 1.35 to turn them into USDs and the figure is USD8.=
127 per US gallon price in the UK. Europe isn=E2=80=99t too much different =
either.<br>
<br>
Basically, double what our =E2=80=98a bit miffed=E2=80=99 enthusiast friend=
s are paying on t=E2=80=99other side o=E2=80=99t pond, so count your blessi=
ngs, friends.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0It broke my heart when I sold my two Triumph Big Sixes some years ago=
 but if I=E2=80=99d kept them, as sure as hell I=E2=80=99d no longer be abl=
e to afford keeping them to enjoy their continued and delightful use. Perha=
ps those who paid me a lot less than either was worth at the time, are now =
limited in only being able to look at them and making brrrmmm brrrmmm noise=
s sitting in the driving seat. I hope so. The only good news coming out of =
this chaotic international bloody mess both at home and abroad is the Hybri=
d Kia Sportage with part time electric power and regenerative braking is st=
ill giving us 57mpg on mixed rural and urban use. Being very gentle, 61-63m=
pg is also available - but for how much longer?<br>
<br>
Jonmac<br>
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From: John Macartney <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 00:23:46 +0100

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I entirely agree. National taxation has a major impact on fuel prices and th=
ere are huge variations. I only submitted my earlier post in case any lister=
 was considering the UK or Europe as a vacation option this year and seeking=
 car rental. Frankly, why anyone would want to come to either venue is a bit=
 beyond me. For me, the mountains in the South Island of New Zealand which I=
 saw many years ago are infinitely attractive and to say goodbye to the UK f=
or good.

In Europe, while there are fairly small variances from country to country fo=
r gas, LPG and diesel, the US has pretty well always been far cheaper than a=
 lot of countries elsewhere in the world. Some years ago, I noticed gasoline=
 in Canada was noticeably more costly than the US and California was far mor=
e expensive than other US states. The other advantage you have is crude is p=
riced in US dollars coming out of the ground. That=E2=80=99s fine if the US d=
ollar is your currency, but when it isn=E2=80=99t, whatever currency is bein=
g converted to buy crude, is at the mercy of volatile currency exchange rate=
s between the buying currency and the USD.
The bottom line is that while fuel prices are unlikely to dramatically chang=
e from where they have compared regionally over the decades, industry, comme=
rce and the private individual are inevitably going to get financially shaft=
ed by national governments and inter alia currency fluctuations. For the mos=
t part, those changes up in increasing costs lie very much in the hands of p=
oliticians and geopolitical events over which Joe and Josie Public can exert=
 absolutely zero control. The =E2=80=9CRocket Feather=E2=80=9D situation on t=
axation and price control is with us yet again, while those that govern us d=
on=E2=80=99t really give a toss, despite their periodic whining denials to t=
he contrary. Rant off.

JM

> On 12 May 2026, at 23:26, John Innis <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> Do bear in mind that in additional to the various differences in sources o=
f materials and transportation cost, there is also a considerable difference=
 in the tax structure between the US and other parts of the world.  US feder=
al gasoline tax is $0.184 per gallon.  In addition to that we have various e=
xcise tax imposed by states, some as high as $0.60 per gallon. There are als=
o various state and local sales tax, which is based on the total cost of the=
 fuel, rather than a set per gallon tax.  Generally the highest total tax on=
 gasoline in the US is about $0.90 per gallon.  Compare that to the UK, whic=
h I understand has a tax of 52.95p per litre fuel duty plus 20%VAT.  Basical=
ly half of the cost of fuel in the UK is taxes.  Vs in the US it is more lik=
e 20%. =20
>=20
>> On Tue, May 12, 2026 at 3:07=E2=80=AFPM John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gm=
>> My iPad news feed tells me lots of people in the US are getting =E2=80=98=
rather agitated=E2=80=99 and =E2=80=98a bit miffed=E2=80=99 at gasoline pric=
es hitting the USD4.50 per US gallon.=20
>>=20
>> So?
>>=20
>> I went to fill up our daily driver today (Kia Sportage hybrid) and arrivi=
ng at the supermarket, saw that 95 octane E10 unleaded has gone up yet again=
, so a part-refill was soon decided.
>>=20
>>  For comparative purposes, the equivalent cost in USDs using UK prices is=
 this. Our fuel is sold now only in litres and no longer imperial gallons as=
 heretofore.
>>=20
>> Multiply the GBP6.02 by 1.35 to turn them into USDs and the figure is USD=
8.127 per US gallon price in the UK. Europe isn=E2=80=99t too much different=
 either.
>>=20
nds are paying on t=E2=80=99other side o=E2=80=99t pond, so count your bless=
ings, friends.
>>=20
t if I=E2=80=99d kept them, as sure as hell I=E2=80=99d no longer be able to=
 afford keeping them to enjoy their continued and delightful use. Perhaps th=
ose who paid me a lot less than either was worth at the time, are now limite=
d in only being able to look at them and making brrrmmm brrrmmm noises sitti=
ng in the driving seat. I hope so. The only good news coming out of this cha=
otic international bloody mess both at home and abroad is the Hybrid Kia Spo=
rtage with part time electric power and regenerative braking is still giving=
 us 57mpg on mixed rural and urban use. Being very gentle, 61-63mpg is also a=
vailable - but for how much longer?
>>=20
>>=20
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ive
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I e=
ntirely agree. National taxation has a major impact on fuel prices and there=
 are huge variations. I only submitted my earlier post in case any lister wa=
s considering the UK or Europe as a vacation option this year and seeking ca=
r rental. Frankly, why anyone would want to come to either venue is a bit be=
yond me. For me, the mountains in the South Island of New Zealand which I sa=
w many years ago are infinitely attractive and to say goodbye to the UK for g=
ood.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">In Europe, while there=
 are fairly small variances from country to country for gas, LPG and diesel,=
 the US has pretty well always been far cheaper than a lot of countries else=
where in the world. Some years ago, I noticed gasoline in Canada was noticea=
bly more costly than the US and California was far more expensive than other=
 US states. The other advantage you have is crude is priced in US dollars co=
ming out of the ground. That=E2=80=99s fine if the US dollar is your currenc=
y, but when it isn=E2=80=99t, whatever currency is being converted to buy cr=
ude, is at the mercy of volatile currency exchange rates between the buying c=
urrency and the USD.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">The bottom line is that while fue=
l prices are unlikely to dramatically change from where they have compared r=
egionally over the decades, industry, commerce and the private individual ar=
e inevitably going to get financially shafted by national governments and in=
ter alia currency fluctuations. For the most part, those changes up in incre=
asing costs lie very much in the hands of politicians and geopolitical event=
s over which Joe and Josie Public can exert absolutely zero control. The =E2=
=80=9CRocket Feather=E2=80=9D situation on taxation and price control is wit=
h us yet again, while those that govern us don=E2=80=99t really give a toss,=
 despite their periodic whining denials to the contrary. Rant off.</div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">JM</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On 12 M=
ay 2026, at 23:26, John Innis &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">jdinn=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Do bear in mind that in additional to the various dif=
ferences in sources of materials and transportation cost, there is also a co=
nsiderable difference in the tax structure between the US and other parts of=
 the world.&nbsp; US federal gasoline tax is $0.184 per gallon.&nbsp; In add=
ition to that we have various excise tax imposed by states, some as high as $=
0.60 per gallon. There are also various state and local sales tax, which is b=
ased on the total cost of the fuel, rather than a set per gallon tax.&nbsp; G=
enerally the highest total tax on gasoline in the US is about $0.90 per gall=
on.&nbsp; Compare that to the UK, which I understand has a tax of 52.95p per=
 litre fuel duty plus 20%VAT.&nbsp; Basically half of the cost of fuel in th=
e UK is taxes.&nbsp; Vs in the US it is more like 20%.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_attr">On Tue, May 12, 2026 at 3:07=E2=80=AFPM John Macartney &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;b=
order-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">My iPad news feed te=
lls me lots of people in the US are getting =E2=80=98rather agitated=E2=80=99=
 and =E2=80=98a bit miffed=E2=80=99 at gasoline prices hitting the USD4.50 p=
er US gallon. <br>
<br>
So?<br>
<br>
I went to fill up our daily driver today (Kia Sportage hybrid) and arriving a=
t the supermarket, saw that 95 octane E10 unleaded has gone up yet again, so=
 a part-refill was soon decided.<br>
<br>
&nbsp;For comparative purposes, the equivalent cost in USDs using UK prices i=
s this. Our fuel is sold now only in litres and no longer imperial gallons a=
s heretofore.<br>
<br>
One US gallon is equal to 3.785 litres.<br>
One litre here costs GBP 1.59 per litre<br>
One US gallon in GB pounds is 3.785x1.59 =3D GBP6.02<br>
Multiply the GBP6.02 by 1.35 to turn them into USDs and the figure is USD8.1=
27 per US gallon price in the UK. Europe isn=E2=80=99t too much different ei=
ther.<br>
<br>
Basically, double what our =E2=80=98a bit miffed=E2=80=99 enthusiast friends=
 are paying on t=E2=80=99other side o=E2=80=99t pond, so count your blessing=
s, friends.<br>
<br>
&nbsp;It broke my heart when I sold my two Triumph Big Sixes some years ago b=
ut if I=E2=80=99d kept them, as sure as hell I=E2=80=99d no longer be able t=
o afford keeping them to enjoy their continued and delightful use. Perhaps t=
hose who paid me a lot less than either was worth at the time, are now limit=
ed in only being able to look at them and making brrrmmm brrrmmm noises sitt=
ing in the driving seat. I hope so. The only good news coming out of this ch=
aotic international bloody mess both at home and abroad is the Hybrid Kia Sp=
ortage with part time electric power and regenerative braking is still givin=
g us 57mpg on mixed rural and urban use. Being very gentle, 61-63mpg is also=
 available - but for how much longer?<br>
<br>
Jonmac<br>
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From: Frank Fisher <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 01:44:03 +0000 (UTC)

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 im more than agitated and mifed at gas prices around $6.50 a US gallon in =
southeren california.i can still get leaded gas at one special station but =
"not for use in a road car".=C2=A0i used to treat boththe triump and the be=
l air a tank full every 4 or 5 fillups. naughty me.but at that time i was p=
aying about 10.00 a gallon when regular gas was around 3.50 +/-.i wont be t=
reating the cars to lead anytime soon, i do not even have the heart to look=
 what that gas may be right now.sigh!frank=C2=A0
    On Tuesday, May 12, 2026 at 02:34:38 PM PDT, Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@g=
mail.com> wrote: =20
=20
 Well, for reference, Jonmac, distances in this country are a little greate=
r than yours and public transportation is absent in much of the US.=C2=A0
My state of New Mexico alone is almost 30% greater in land area than all of=
 the UK.=C2=A0
The idea that the furthest point from the sea could be only 70 miles contin=
ues to amaze people here.=C2=A0
We=E2=80=99d be in the streets with pitchforks and torches if/when fuel pri=
ces here reach yours!

My iPad news feed tells me lots of people in the US are getting =E2=80=98ra=
ther agitated=E2=80=99 and =E2=80=98a bit miffed=E2=80=99 at gasoline price=
s hitting the USD4.50 per US gallon.=20

So?

I went to fill up our daily driver today (Kia Sportage hybrid) and arriving=
 at the supermarket, saw that 95 octane E10 unleaded has gone up yet again,=
 so a part-refill was soon decided.

s as heretofore.

ngs, friends.

pg is also available - but for how much longer?

Jonmac

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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">im more than agitated and mi=
fed at gas prices around $6.50 a US gallon in southeren california.</div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">i can still get leaded gas at one spec=
ial station but "not for use in a road car".&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr" da=
ta-setdir=3D"false">i used to treat boththe triump and the bel air a tank f=
ull every 4 or 5 fillups. naughty me.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"=
false">but at that time i was paying about 10.00 a gallon when regular gas =
was around 3.50 +/-.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">i wont be =
treating the cars to lead anytime soon, i do not even have the heart to loo=
k what that gas may be right now.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fals=
e">sigh!</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">frank&nbsp;</div><div>=
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                        On Tuesday, May 12, 2026 at 02:34:38 PM PDT, Don Hi=
scock &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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               =20
               =20
                <div><div id=3D"ydpe7cc905cyiv2707313155">Well, for referen=
ce, Jonmac, distances in this country are a little greater than yours and p=
ublic transportation is absent in much of the US.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>=
My state of New Mexico alone is almost 30% greater in land area than all of=
 the UK.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>The idea that the furthest point fr=
om the sea could be only 70 miles continues to amaze people here.&nbsp;</di=
v><div><br></div><div>We=E2=80=99d be in the streets with pitchforks and to=
rches if/when fuel prices here reach yours!<br><br>On Tuesday, May 12, 2026=
, John Macartney &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofol=
low" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote=
 style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" c=
lass=3D"ydpe7cc905cyiv2707313155gmail_quote">My iPad news feed tells me lot=
s of people in the US are getting =E2=80=98rather agitated=E2=80=99 and =E2=
=80=98a bit miffed=E2=80=99 at gasoline prices hitting the USD4.50 per US g=
allon. <br>
<br>
So?<br>
<br>
I went to fill up our daily driver today (Kia Sportage hybrid) and arriving=
 at the supermarket, saw that 95 octane E10 unleaded has gone up yet again,=
 so a part-refill was soon decided.<br>
<br>
&nbsp;For comparative purposes, the equivalent cost in USDs using UK prices=
 is this. Our fuel is sold now only in litres and no longer imperial gallon=
s as heretofore.<br>
<br>
One US gallon is equal to 3.785 litres.<br>
One litre here costs GBP 1.59 per litre<br>
One US gallon in GB pounds is 3.785x1.59 =3D GBP6.02<br>
Multiply the GBP6.02 by 1.35 to turn them into USDs and the figure is USD8.=
127 per US gallon price in the UK. Europe isn=E2=80=99t too much different =
either.<br>
<br>
Basically, double what our =E2=80=98a bit miffed=E2=80=99 enthusiast friend=
s are paying on t=E2=80=99other side o=E2=80=99t pond, so count your blessi=
ngs, friends.<br>
<br>
&nbsp;It broke my heart when I sold my two Triumph Big Sixes some years ago=
 but if I=E2=80=99d kept them, as sure as hell I=E2=80=99d no longer be abl=
e to afford keeping them to enjoy their continued and delightful use. Perha=
ps those who paid me a lot less than either was worth at the time, are now =
limited in only being able to look at them and making brrrmmm brrrmmm noise=
s sitting in the driving seat. I hope so. The only good news coming out of =
this chaotic international bloody mess both at home and abroad is the Hybri=
d Kia Sportage with part time electric power and regenerative braking is st=
ill giving us 57mpg on mixed rural and urban use. Being very gentle, 61-63m=
pg is also available - but for how much longer?<br>
<br>
Jonmac<br>
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Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 02:11:45 +0000 (UTC)

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Assuming that your 57 MPG is in imperial gallons (4.5 litres) at one pound =
sixty five that works out to 13.25 P per mile.=C2=A0 I just watched a Youtu=
be video were a bloke on your side of the pond drove his electric Skoda a b=
it and charged up over night when the rates were low and calculated a per m=
ile cost of 1P 78.=C2=A0 It looks like converting our old iron to electric =
may become practical.
But no more oil leaks?!!!
Dave=20

=20

    On Tuesday, May 12, 2026 at 03:39:35 PM CDT, John Macartney <johnbmacar=
[email-masked]> wrote:  =20

 My iPad news feed tells me lots of people in the US are getting =E2=80=98r=
ather agitated=E2=80=99 and =E2=80=98a bit miffed=E2=80=99 at gasoline pric=
es hitting the USD4.50 per US gallon.=20

So?

 For comparative purposes, the equivalent cost in USDs using UK prices is t=
his. Our fuel is sold now only in litres and no longer imperial gallons as =
heretofore.

 It broke my heart when I sold my two Triumph Big Sixes some years ago but =
if I=E2=80=99d kept them, as sure as hell I=E2=80=99d no longer be able to =
afford keeping them to enjoy their continued and delightful use. Perhaps th=
ose who paid me a lot less than either was worth at the time, are now limit=
ed in only being able to look at them and making brrrmmm brrrmmm noises sit=
ting in the driving seat. I hope so. The only good news coming out of this =
chaotic international bloody mess both at home and abroad is the Hybrid Kia=
 Sportage with part time electric power and regenerative braking is still g=
iving us 57mpg on mixed rural and urban use. Being very gentle, 61-63mpg is=
 also available - but for how much longer?

Jonmac

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=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Assuming that your 57 MPG is in imperial gal=
lons (4.5 litres) at one pound sixty five that works out to 13.25 P per mil=
e.&nbsp; I just watched a Youtube video were a bloke on your side of the po=
nd drove his electric Skoda a bit and charged up over night when the rates =
were low and calculated a per mile cost of 1P 78.&nbsp; It looks like conve=
rting our old iron to electric may become practical.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">But =
no more oil leaks?!!!</div><div><br></div><div class=3D"ydp2d5292b0signatur=
e"><div style=3D"color: black; font-style: normal; font-size-adjust: none; =
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                        On Tuesday, May 12, 2026 at 03:39:35 PM CDT, John M=
acartney &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><br></div><div><br></div>
                <div><div dir=3D"ltr">My iPad news feed tells me lots of pe=
ople in the US are getting =E2=80=98rather agitated=E2=80=99 and =E2=80=98a=
 bit miffed=E2=80=99 at gasoline prices hitting the USD4.50 per US gallon. =
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">So?<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I went to fill up our daily driver toda=
y (Kia Sportage hybrid) and arriving at the supermarket, saw that 95 octane=
 E10 unleaded has gone up yet again, so a part-refill was soon decided.<br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> For comparative purposes=
, the equivalent cost in USDs using UK prices is this. Our fuel is sold now=
 only in litres and no longer imperial gallons as heretofore.<br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">One US gallon is equal to 3.785 lit=
res.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">One litre here costs GBP 1.59 per litre<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">One US gallon in GB pounds is 3.785x1.59 =3D GBP6.02<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Multiply the GBP6.02 by 1.35 to turn them into US=
Ds and the figure is USD8.127 per US gallon price in the UK. Europe isn=E2=
=80=99t too much different either.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">Basically, double what our =E2=80=98a bit miffed=E2=80=99 enth=
usiast friends are paying on t=E2=80=99other side o=E2=80=99t pond, so coun=
t your blessings, friends.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"> It broke my heart when I sold my two Triumph Big Sixes some years ago=
 but if I=E2=80=99d kept them, as sure as hell I=E2=80=99d no longer be abl=
e to afford keeping them to enjoy their continued and delightful use. Perha=
ps those who paid me a lot less than either was worth at the time, are now =
limited in only being able to look at them and making brrrmmm brrrmmm noise=
s sitting in the driving seat. I hope so. The only good news coming out of =
this chaotic international bloody mess both at home and abroad is the Hybri=
d Kia Sportage with part time electric power and regenerative braking is st=
ill giving us 57mpg on mixed rural and urban use. Being very gentle, 61-63m=
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