Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 19, Issue 78

From: j t <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2026 12:48:49 +0000

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I have a separate ground for each motor mount. If NO ground you will melt t=
he choke cable.
No dash lights. All the lamps you are looking for meet at hot side of the r=
otary dash dimmer.
Best John

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Today's Topics:

   1. testing brake light switch (dave northrup)
   2. Re: electrical issue (Alex&Janet Thomson)
   3. Re: electrical issue (dave northrup)
   4. Re: electrical issue (Allan Stults)
   5. Re: electrical issue (bill beecher)
   6. Re: new hubs (Andrew S. Mace)
   7. Re: electrical issue (DAVID MASSEY)
   8. Re: electrical issue (DAVID MASSEY)
   9. Re: electrical issue (DAVID MASSEY)
  10. Re: new hubs (auprichard uprichard.net)
  11. Re: electrical issue (auprichard uprichard.net)

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2026 18:39:02 +0000
From: dave northrup <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [TR] testing brake light switch

I think I can use a compressor to test a brake light switch for a TR3A.  ho=
w much pressure?  Is 35 pounds too much?
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2026 16:14:58 -0400
From: "Alex&Janet Thomson" <[email-masked]>
To: "'auprichard uprichard.net'" <[email-masked]>, "'Tony
        Drews'" <[email-masked]>, <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue

Isn't there supposed to be a ground strap from the engine block to the body=
 somewhere?

Alex Thomson

From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of auprichard up=
richard.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2026 7:43 AM
To: Tony Drews <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue

But how would bad grounds affect the dash lights?

tox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Tony Drews
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue

I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body=
 was painted they may no longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On 4/20/2026 5:3=
8 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?=
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body=
 was painted they may no longer be grounded.

Regards, Tony

On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote:

Yes ? same circuit.  But I?d also expect the front side lights / running li=
ghts not to be working and possibly the headlights too.

Get under the dash and check the wires in and out of the light switch.

autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Allan Stults
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM
Subject: [TR] electrical issue

I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it apart to=
 paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home, I discovered =
that the tail lights and dash lights were not working. All other electrical=
 items are working.

I have a '62 TR 3B.  I recently had it painted.  The painter took it apart =
to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.).  After bringing it home, I discover=
ed that the tail lights and dash lights were not working.  All other electr=
ical items are working.  Are those 2 items, dash and tail lights on the sam=
e circuit?  Everything was working before the paint job.

Thanks in advance for any help,

Allan Stults

Veneta, Oregon

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2026 22:21:04 +0000
From: dave northrup <[email-masked]>
To: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>, Tony Drews
        <[email-masked]>, "[email-masked]"
        <[email-masked]>, auprichard uprichard.net
        <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue

Correct me if I'm wrong - TRs never put fuses on light circuits

-------- Original message --------
From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: 4/21/26 4:49 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: Tony Drews <[email-masked]>, [email-masked], "auprichard u=
prichard.net" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue

Good point.  it wouldn't.  But the information offered was a bit sparce.  I=
s it just the tail lights and do the brake turn signal lights work?

I believe there is a fuse for those lights somewhere in the harness.  It wa=
s a dealer upgrade at some point.  Later TR's have a fuse in the fuse block=
 for that.

Dave

On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 10:40:26 AM CDT, auprichard uprichard.net <au=
[email-masked]> wrote:

But how would bad grounds affect the dash lights?

From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Tony Drews
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 10:05 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue

I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body=
 was painted they may no longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On 4/20/2026 5:3=
8 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?=
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body=
 was painted they may no longer be grounded.

Regards, Tony

On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote:

Yes ? same circuit.  But I?d also expect the front side lights / running li=
ghts not to be working and possibly the headlights too.

Get under the dash and check the wires in and out of the light switch.

tox.team.net> On Behalf Of Allan Stults
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM
Subject: [TR] electrical issue

I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it apart to=
 paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home, I discovered =
that the tail lights and dash lights were not working. All other electrical=
 items are working.

I have a '62 TR 3B.  I recently had it painted.  The painter took it apart =
to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.).  After bringing it home, I discover=
ed that the tail lights and dash lights were not working.  All other electr=
ical items are working.  Are those 2 items, dash and tail lights on the sam=
e circuit?  Everything was working before the paint job.

Thanks in advance for any help,

Allan Stults

Veneta, Oregon

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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2026 15:55:00 -0700
From: "Allan Stults" <[email-masked]>
To: "DAVID MASSEY" <[email-masked]>, "Tony Drews"
        <[email-masked]>, [email-masked], "auprichard
        uprichard.net" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue
Message-ID:
        <[email-masked]=

The brake lights work as do the turn signals.  All gauges work as does
the heater fan.  Only the tail lights and dash lights do not work.  I
believe there are only 2 fuses for the car, correct?  I've replaced
them both.  I can find no loose wires under the dash.  The wiring
harness was replaced 2 years ago with a high quality harness.
Everything worked until the paint job.
Thanks again all for your info,
Allan
On 4/21/2026 at 2:41 PM, "DAVID MASSEY"  wrote:Good point.  it
wouldn't.  But the information offered was a bit sparce.  Is it just
the tail lights and do the brake turn signal lights work?
I believe there is a fuse for those lights somewhere in the harness.
It was a dealer upgrade at some point.  Later TR's have a fuse in the
fuse block for that.
Dave

                   On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 10:40:26 AM CDT,
auprichard uprichard.net  wrote:

        But how would bad grounds affect the dash lights?
        From: Triumphs  On Behalf Of Tony Drews
 Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 10:05 PM
 To: [email-masked]
 Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue
        I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and
the body was painted they may no longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On
4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard  uprichard.net wrote: ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
        I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and
the body was painted they may no longer be grounded.

        Regards, Tony

        On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote:

        Yes ? same circuit.  But I?d also expect the front side lights /
running lights not to be working and possibly the headlights too.
        Get under the dash and check the wires in and out of the light
switch.
        From: Triumphs  On Behalf Of Allan Stults
 Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM
 To: [email-masked]
 Subject: [TR] electrical issue
        I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it
apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home,
I discovered that the  tail lights and dash lights were not working.
All other electrical items are working.

        I have a '62 TR 3B.  I recently had it painted.  The painter took i=
t
apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.).  After bringing it
home, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not
working.  All other electrical items are working.  Are those 2 items,
dash and tail lights on the same circuit?  Everything was working
before the paint job.
        Thanks in advance for any help,
        Allan Stults

        Veneta, Oregon
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2026 20:24:36 -0500
From: bill beecher <[email-masked]>
To: Thomson Alex&Janet <[email-masked]>
Cc: "uprichard.net auprichard" <[email-masked]>, Drews Tony
        <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2026 04:04:01 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Andrew S. Mace" <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>,  dave
        northrup <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] new hubs

As I recall, various factory service bulletins noted that 5/16" needed to b=
e removed from the studs.
--Andy
Andrew Mace
[email-masked]

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*Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph H=
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    On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 05:03:12 PM EDT, dave northrup <dave@rant=
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Hi.? I?m going to order adapters, wire wheels and tires as soon as my proje=
ct gets close to completion (1958 Triumph TR3A).? I purchased these hubs fr=
om BPNorthwest, and I am trying to figure out if I need to shorten the whee=
l studs.? They are .938? long.? Will that interfere with the adapters??

 ?

I have asked BP Northwest but they are not very forthcoming with an answer
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2026 11:11:57 +0000 (UTC)
From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
To: Tony Drews <[email-masked]>,  "[email-masked]"
        <[email-masked]>,  "auprichard uprichard.net"
        <[email-masked]>,  dave northrup <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue

The TR6 definitely does.? And I recall reading that the TR3 had an issue wh=
ere the tail lights were susceptible to damage from other cars,? being moun=
ted so low, that the red wire could get grounded out and when the lights we=
re switched on the harness would melt causing potential fire so the factor =
at some point put in an in-line fuse just for such an occurrence.
In fact, a quick Google search shows several sources indicating that fact a=
nd the location of the fuse (although the location varies from passenger fo=
otwell and under hood next to the voltage regulator.
But the fact remains that if the tail lights AND the dash lights are not wo=
rking it is likely a common feed point interruption which could be a fuse o=
r a dodgey bullet connector.
Dave

    On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 05:21:07 PM CDT, dave northrup <dave@rant=
eer.com> wrote:

 Correct me if I'm wrong - TRs never put fuses on light circuits

-------- Original message --------From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> D=
ate: 4/21/26 4:49 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Tony Drews <[email-masked]>, trium=
[email-masked], "auprichard uprichard.net" <[email-masked]>Su=
bject: Re: [TR] electrical issue
Good point.? it wouldn't.? But the information offered was a bit sparce.? I=
s it just the tail lights and do the brake turn signal lights work?
I believe there is a fuse for those lights somewhere in the harness.? It wa=
s a dealer upgrade at some point.? Later TR's have a fuse in the fuse block=
 for that.
Dave

On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 10:40:26 AM CDT, auprichard uprichard.net <au=
[email-masked]> wrote:

But how would bad grounds affect the dash lights?

?

From: Triumphs <[email-masked]>On Behalf Of Tony Drews
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 10:05 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue

?

I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body=
 was painted they may no longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On 4/20/2026 5:3=
8 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?=
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body=
 was painted they may no longer be grounded.

Regards, Tony

On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote:

Yes ? same circuit.? But I?d also expect the front side lights / running li=
ghts not to be working and possibly the headlights too.

?

Get under the dash and check the wires in and out of the light switch.

?

From: Triumphs<[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Allan Stults
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [TR] electrical issue

?

I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it apart to=
 paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home, I discovered =
that the tail lights and dash lights were not working. All other electrical=
 items are working.

I have a '62 TR 3B.? I recently had it painted.? The painter took it apart =
to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.).? After bringing it home, I discover=
ed that the tail lights and dash lights were not working.? All other electr=
ical items are working.? Are those 2 items, dash and tail lights on the sam=
e circuit?? Everything was working before the paint job.

?

Thanks in advance for any help,

?

Allan Stults

Veneta, Oregon

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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2026 11:13:15 +0000 (UTC)
From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
To: Tony Drews <[email-masked]>,  "[email-masked]"
        <[email-masked]>,  "auprichard uprichard.net"
        <[email-masked]>,  dave northrup <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue

But you are right in that there wasn't a fuse in the beginning and it was a=
dded as an afterthought.? It's a good idea regardless.
Dave

    On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 05:21:07 PM CDT, dave northrup <dave@rant=
eer.com> wrote:

 Correct me if I'm wrong - TRs never put fuses on light circuits

-------- Original message --------From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> D=
ate: 4/21/26 4:49 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Tony Drews <[email-masked]>, trium=
[email-masked], "auprichard uprichard.net" <[email-masked]>Su=
bject: Re: [TR] electrical issue
Good point.? it wouldn't.? But the information offered was a bit sparce.? I=
s it just the tail lights and do the brake turn signal lights work?
I believe there is a fuse for those lights somewhere in the harness.? It wa=
s a dealer upgrade at some point.? Later TR's have a fuse in the fuse block=
 for that.
Dave

On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 10:40:26 AM CDT, auprichard uprichard.net <au=
[email-masked]> wrote:

But how would bad grounds affect the dash lights?

?

From: Triumphs <[email-masked]>On Behalf Of Tony Drews
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 10:05 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue

?

I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body=
 was painted they may no longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On 4/20/2026 5:3=
8 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?=
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body=
 was painted they may no longer be grounded.

Regards, Tony

On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote:

Yes ? same circuit.? But I?d also expect the front side lights / running li=
ghts not to be working and possibly the headlights too.

?

Get under the dash and check the wires in and out of the light switch.

?

From: Triumphs<[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Allan Stults
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [TR] electrical issue

?

I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it apart to=
 paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home, I discovered =
that the tail lights and dash lights were not working. All other electrical=
 items are working.

I have a '62 TR 3B.? I recently had it painted.? The painter took it apart =
to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.).? After bringing it home, I discover=
ed that the tail lights and dash lights were not working.? All other electr=
ical items are working.? Are those 2 items, dash and tail lights on the sam=
e circuit?? Everything was working before the paint job.

?

Thanks in advance for any help,

?

Allan Stults

Veneta, Oregon

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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2026 11:16:07 +0000 (UTC)
From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
To: Tony Drews <[email-masked]>,  "[email-masked]"
        <[email-masked]>,  "auprichard uprichard.net"
        <[email-masked]>,  Allan Stults <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue

As you may have seen in a previous post, many (most?) TR3's and TR3A's had =
a fuse added to this circuit to protect against accident damage to the tail=
 lights causing a short circuit.? This in-line fuse may be in the passenger=
 footwell or under hood near the voltage regulator.
Dave

    On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 05:55:01 PM CDT, Allan Stults <acstults@h=
ushmail.com> wrote:

 The brake lights work as do the turn signals.? All gauges work as does the=
 heater fan.? Only the tail lights and dash lights do not work.? I believe =
there are only 2 fuses for the car, correct?? I've replaced them both.? I c=
an find no loose wires under the dash.? The wiring harness was replaced 2 y=
ears ago with a high quality harness.? Everything worked until the paint jo=
b.
Thanks again all for your info,
Allan
On 4/21/2026 at 2:41 PM, "DAVID MASSEY" <[email-masked]> wrote:
Good point.? it wouldn't.? But the information offered was a bit sparce.? I=
s it just the tail lights and do the brake turn signal lights work?
I believe there is a fuse for those lights somewhere in the harness.? It wa=
s a dealer upgrade at some point.? Later TR's have a fuse in the fuse block=
 for that.
Dave

    On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 10:40:26 AM CDT, auprichard uprichard.net=
 <[email-masked]> wrote:

But how would bad grounds affect the dash lights?

 ?

From: Triumphs <[email-masked]>On Behalf Of Tony Drews
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 10:05 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue

 ?

I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body=
 was painted they may no longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On 4/20/2026 5:3=
8 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?=
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body=
 was painted they may no longer be grounded.

Regards, Tony

On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote:

Yes ? same circuit.? But I?d also expect the front side lights / running li=
ghts not to be working and possibly the headlights too.

?

Get under the dash and check the wires in and out of the light switch.

?

From: Triumphs<[email-masked]>On Behalf Of Allan Stults
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [TR] electrical issue

?

I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it apart to=
 paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home, I discovered =
that the tail lights and dash lights were not working. All other electrical=
 items are working.

I have a '62 TR 3B.? I recently had it painted.? The painter took it apart =
to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.).? After bringing it home, I discover=
ed that the tail lights and dash lights were not working.? All other electr=
ical items are working.? Are those 2 items, dash and tail lights on the sam=
e circuit?? Everything was working before the paint job.

?

Thanks in advance for any help,

?

Allan Stults

Veneta, Oregon

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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2026 11:48:55 +0000
From: auprichard uprichard.net <[email-masked]>
To: "Andrew S. Mace" <[email-masked]>, "[email-masked]"
        <[email-masked]>, dave northrup <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] new hubs
Message-ID:
        <[email-masked]=
.outlook.com>

Replace them, shorten them or buy spacers. Spacers are my preferred route a=
s the wheels sit out a little more.

The interference isn?t with the spacers ? if you don?t deal with the studs =
issue they will hit the wheels themselves.

From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Andrew S. Mac=
e
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2026 12:04 AM
To: [email-masked]; dave northrup <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] new hubs

As I recall, various factory service bulletins noted that 5/16" needed to b=
[email-masked]> *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? *Man: Well, no ... It's n=
ot so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2026 11:57:07 +0000
From: auprichard uprichard.net <[email-masked]>
To: Allan Stults <[email-masked]>, DAVID MASSEY
        <[email-masked]>, Tony Drews <[email-masked]>,
        "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue
Message-ID:
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Allan ? are you saying the front side lights / running lights and headlight=
s are working normally?

Are you absolutely sure the dash lights aren?t working?  Sometimes it can b=
e hard to see.  Park the car in the garage and go out when it is dark to ch=
eck them.

From: Allan Stults <[email-masked]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2026 6:55 PM
To: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>; Tony Drews <[email-masked]>; tri=
[email-masked]; auprichard uprichard.net <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue

The brake lights work as do the turn signals.  All gauges work as does the =
heater fan.  Only the tail lights and dash lights do not work.  I believe t=
here are only 2 fuses for the car, correct?  I've replaced them both.  I ca=
n find no loose wires under the dash.  The wiring harness was replaced 2 ye=
ars ago with a high quality harness.  Everything worked until the paint job=
.

Thanks again all for your info,

Allan

[email-masked]>> wrote:
Good point.  it wouldn't.  But the information offered was a bit sparce.  I=
s it just the tail lights and do the brake turn signal lights work?

I believe there is a fuse for those lights somewhere in the harness.  It wa=
s a dealer upgrade at some point.  Later TR's have a fuse in the fuse block=
 for that.

Dave

On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 10:40:26 AM CDT, auprichard uprichard.net <au=

But how would bad grounds affect the dash lights?

ox.team.net>> On Behalf Of Tony Drews
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue

I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body=
 was painted they may no longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On 4/20/2026 5:3=
8 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?=
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body=
 was painted they may no longer be grounded.

Regards, Tony

On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote:

Yes ? same circuit.  But I?d also expect the front side lights / running li=
ghts not to be working and possibly the headlights too.

Get under the dash and check the wires in and out of the light switch.

ox.team.net>> On Behalf Of Allan Stults
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM
Subject: [TR] electrical issue

I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it apart to=
 paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home, I discovered =
that the tail lights and dash lights were not working. All other electrical=
 items are working.

I have a '62 TR 3B.  I recently had it painted.  The painter took it apart =
to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.).  After bringing it home, I discover=
ed that the tail lights and dash lights were not working.  All other electr=
ical items are working.  Are those 2 items, dash and tail lights on the sam=
e circuit?  Everything was working before the paint job.

Thanks in advance for any help,

Allan Stults

Veneta, Oregon

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&nbsp;&nbsp; 1. testing brake light switch (dave northrup)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; 2. Re: electrical issue (Alex&amp;Janet Thomson)<br>
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&nbsp;&nbsp; 4. Re: electrical issue (Allan Stults)<br>
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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2026 18:39:02 +0000<br>
From: dave northrup &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: &quot;[email-masked]&quot; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Subject: [TR] testing brake light switch<br>
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I think I can use a compressor to test a brake light switch for a TR3A.&nbs=
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From: &quot;Alex&amp;Janet Thomson&quot; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br=
To: &quot;'auprichard uprichard.net'&quot; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;=
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Drews'&quot; &lt;tony@tonydrews.=
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Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue<br>
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Isn't there supposed to be a ground strap from the engine block to the body=
 somewhere?<br>
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Alex Thomson<br>
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Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue<br>
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But how would bad grounds affect the dash lights?<br>
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Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue<br>
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I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body=
 was painted they may no longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On 4/20/2026 5:3=
8 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?=
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? <br>
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I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body=
 was painted they may no longer be grounded.<br>
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Regards, Tony<br>
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On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote:<br>
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Yes ? same circuit.&nbsp; But I?d also expect the front side lights / runni=
ng lights not to be working and possibly the headlights too.<br>
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Get under the dash and check the wires in and out of the light switch.<br>
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&nbsp;<br>
<br>
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Subject: [TR] electrical issue<br>
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I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it apart to=
 paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home, I discovered =
that the tail lights and dash lights were not working. All other electrical=
 items are working.
<br>
<br>
I have a '62 TR 3B.&nbsp; I recently had it painted.&nbsp; The painter took=
 it apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.).&nbsp; After bringing it h=
ome, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not working.&nb=
sp; All other electrical items are working.&nbsp; Are those
 2 items, dash and tail lights on the same circuit?&nbsp; Everything was wo=
rking before the paint job.<br>
<br>
&nbsp;<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance for any help,<br>
<br>
&nbsp;<br>
<br>
Allan Stults<br>
<br>
Veneta, Oregon<br>
<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2026 22:21:04 +0000<br>
From: dave northrup &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: DAVID MASSEY &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, Tony Drews<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, &quo=
t;[email-masked]&quot;<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;,=
 auprichard uprichard.net<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;=
<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue<br>
<br>
Correct me if I'm wrong - TRs never put fuses on light circuits<br>
<br>
<br>
-------- Original message --------<br>
From: DAVID MASSEY &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Date: 4/21/26 4:49 PM (GMT-06:00)<br>
To: Tony Drews &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, [email-masked], &quot;a=
uprichard uprichard.net&quot; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue<br>
<br>
Good point.&nbsp; it wouldn't.&nbsp; But the information offered was a bit =
sparce.&nbsp; Is it just the tail lights and do the brake turn signal light=
s work?<br>
<br>
I believe there is a fuse for those lights somewhere in the harness.&nbsp; =
It was a dealer upgrade at some point.&nbsp; Later TR's have a fuse in the =
fuse block for that.<br>
<br>
Dave<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 10:40:26 AM CDT, auprichard uprichard.net &lt=
;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
But how would bad grounds affect the dash lights?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
From: Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt; On Behalf Of Tony Dr=
ews<br>
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 10:05 PM<br>
To: [email-masked]<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body=
 was painted they may no longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On 4/20/2026 5:3=
8 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?=
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?<br>
<br>
I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body=
 was painted they may no longer be grounded.<br>
<br>
Regards, Tony<br>
<br>
On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote:<br>
<br>
Yes ? same circuit.&nbsp; But I?d also expect the front side lights / runni=
ng lights not to be working and possibly the headlights too.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Get under the dash and check the wires in and out of the light switch.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
From: Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;&lt;mailto:triumphs-b=
[email-masked]&gt; On Behalf Of Allan Stults<br>
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM<br>
To: [email-masked]&lt;mailto:[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Subject: [TR] electrical issue<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it apart to=
 paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home, I discovered =
that the tail lights and dash lights were not working. All other electrical=
 items are working.<br>
<br>
I have a '62 TR 3B.&nbsp; I recently had it painted.&nbsp; The painter took=
 it apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.).&nbsp; After bringing it h=
ome, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not working.&nb=
sp; All other electrical items are working.&nbsp; Are those
 2 items, dash and tail lights on the same circuit?&nbsp; Everything was wo=
rking before the paint job.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance for any help,<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Allan Stults<br>
<br>
Veneta, Oregon<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
** [email-masked]&lt;mailto:[email-masked]&gt; **<br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2026 15:55:00 -0700<br>
From: &quot;Allan Stults&quot; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: &quot;DAVID MASSEY&quot; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, &quot;Tony Drews&q=
uot;<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, triu=
[email-masked], &quot;auprichard<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; uprichard.net&quot; &lt;aupricha=
[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue<br>
Message-ID:<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;6db07134cd2d2bd98524d2a9ecf8=
[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<br>
The brake lights work as do the turn signals.&nbsp; All gauges work as does=
<br>
the heater fan.&nbsp; Only the tail lights and dash lights do not work.&nbs=
p; I<br>
believe there are only 2 fuses for the car, correct?&nbsp; I've replaced<br=
them both.&nbsp; I can find no loose wires under the dash.&nbsp; The wiring=
<br>
harness was replaced 2 years ago with a high quality harness. <br>
Everything worked until the paint job.<br>
Thanks again all for your info,<br>
Allan<br>
On 4/21/2026 at 2:41 PM, &quot;DAVID MASSEY&quot;&nbsp; wrote:Good point.&n=
bsp; it<br>
wouldn't.&nbsp; But the information offered was a bit sparce.&nbsp; Is it j=
ust<br>
the tail lights and do the brake turn signal lights work?<br>
I believe there is a fuse for those lights somewhere in the harness. <br>
It was a dealer upgrade at some point.&nbsp; Later TR's have a fuse in the<=
br>
fuse block for that.<br>
Dave <br>
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sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 10:40:26 AM=
 CDT,<br>
auprichard uprichard.net&nbsp; wrote:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; But how would bad grounds affect=
 the dash lights?&nbsp; <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; From: Triumphs&nbsp; On Behalf O=
f Tony Drews<br>
&nbsp;Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 10:05 PM<br>
&nbsp;To: [email-masked]<br>
&nbsp;Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I'd check grounds too - if the l=
ights are grounded to the body and<br>
the body was painted they may no longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On<br>
4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard&nbsp; uprichard.net wrote: ? ? ? ?<br>
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?<br>
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?<br>
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I'd check grounds too - if the l=
ights are grounded to the body and<br>
the body was painted they may no longer be grounded.&nbsp; <br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Regards, Tony&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard=
 uprichard.net wrote:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Yes ? same circuit.&nbsp; But I?=
d also expect the front side lights /<br>
running lights not to be working and possibly the headlights too.&nbsp; <br=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Get under the dash and check the=
 wires in and out of the light<br>
switch.&nbsp; <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; From: Triumphs&nbsp; On Behalf O=
f Allan Stults<br>
&nbsp;Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM<br>
&nbsp;To: [email-masked]<br>
&nbsp;Subject: [TR] electrical issue&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently h=
ad it painted. The painter took it<br>
apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home,<br>
I discovered that the&nbsp; tail lights and dash lights were not working.<b=
r>
All other electrical items are working.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I have a '62 TR 3B.&nbsp; I rece=
ntly had it painted.&nbsp; The painter took it<br>
apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.).&nbsp; After bringing it <br>
home, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not<br>
working.&nbsp; All other electrical items are working.&nbsp; Are those 2 it=
ems,<br>
dash and tail lights on the same circuit?&nbsp; Everything was working<br>
before the paint job.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Thanks in advance for any help,&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Allan Stults&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <=
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<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Veneta, Oregon&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
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Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2026 20:24:36 -0500<br>
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To: Thomson Alex&amp;Janet &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2026 04:04:01 +0000 (UTC)<br>
From: &quot;Andrew S. Mace&quot; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: &quot;[email-masked]&quot; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;,&nb=
sp; dave<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; northrup &lt;[email-masked]&gt=
;<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] new hubs<br>
<br>
As I recall, various factory service bulletins noted that 5/16&quot; needed=
 to be removed from the studs.<br>
--Andy <br>
Andrew Mace<br>
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<br>
&nbsp; <br>
Hi.? I?m going to order adapters, wire wheels and tires as soon as my proje=
ct gets close to completion (1958 Triumph TR3A).? I purchased these hubs fr=
om BPNorthwest, and I am trying to figure out if I need to shorten the whee=
l studs.? They are .938? long.?
 Will that interfere with the adapters??<br>
&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;?<br>
&nbsp;<br>
I have asked BP Northwest but they are not very forthcoming with an answer<=
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Message: 7<br>
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2026 11:11:57 +0000 (UTC)<br>
From: DAVID MASSEY &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: Tony Drews &lt;[email-masked]&gt;,&nbsp; &quot;[email-masked].=
net&quot;<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;,=
&nbsp; &quot;auprichard uprichard.net&quot;<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;=
,&nbsp; dave northrup &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue<br>
<br>
The TR6 definitely does.? And I recall reading that the TR3 had an issue wh=
ere the tail lights were susceptible to damage from other cars,? being moun=
ted so low, that the red wire could get grounded out and when the lights we=
re switched on the harness would
 melt causing potential fire so the factor at some point put in an in-line =
fuse just for such an occurrence.<br>
In fact, a quick Google search shows several sources indicating that fact a=
nd the location of the fuse (although the location varies from passenger fo=
otwell and under hood next to the voltage regulator.<br>
But the fact remains that if the tail lights AND the dash lights are not wo=
rking it is likely a common feed point interruption which could be a fuse o=
r a dodgey bullet connector.<br>
Dave <br>
<br>
<br>
&nbsp;<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 05:21:07 PM CDT, dave nort=
hrup &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:&nbsp;&nbsp;
<br>
<br>
&nbsp;Correct me if I'm wrong - TRs never put fuses on light circuits<br>
<br>
-------- Original message --------From: DAVID MASSEY &lt;[email-masked]=
&gt; Date: 4/21/26 4:49 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Tony Drews &lt;[email-masked]=
m&gt;, [email-masked], &quot;auprichard uprichard.net&quot; &lt;au=
[email-masked]&gt;Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue
<br>
Good point.? it wouldn't.? But the information offered was a bit sparce.? I=
s it just the tail lights and do the brake turn signal lights work?<br>
I believe there is a fuse for those lights somewhere in the harness.? It wa=
s a dealer upgrade at some point.? Later TR's have a fuse in the fuse block=
 for that.<br>
Dave <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 10:40:26 AM CDT, auprichard uprichard.net &lt=
;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
But how would bad grounds affect the dash lights?<br>
<br>
?<br>
<br>
From: Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;On Behalf Of Tony Dre=
ws<br>
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 10:05 PM<br>
To: [email-masked]<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue<br>
<br>
?<br>
<br>
I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body=
 was painted they may no longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On 4/20/2026 5:3=
8 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?=
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body=
 was painted they may no longer be grounded.<br>
<br>
Regards, Tony<br>
<br>
On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
Yes ? same circuit.? But I?d also expect the front side lights / running li=
ghts not to be working and possibly the headlights too.<br>
<br>
?<br>
<br>
Get under the dash and check the wires in and out of the light switch.<br>
<br>
?<br>
<br>
From: Triumphs&lt;[email-masked]&gt; On Behalf Of Allan St=
ults<br>
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM<br>
To: [email-masked]<br>
Subject: [TR] electrical issue<br>
<br>
?<br>
<br>
I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it apart to=
 paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home, I discovered =
that the tail lights and dash lights were not working. All other electrical=
 items are working.<br>
<br>
I have a '62 TR 3B.? I recently had it painted.? The painter took it apart =
to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.).? After bringing it home, I discover=
ed that the tail lights and dash lights were not working.? All other electr=
ical items are working.? Are those
 2 items, dash and tail lights on the same circuit?? Everything was working=
 before the paint job.<br>
<br>
?<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance for any help,<br>
<br>
?<br>
<br>
Allan Stults<br>
<br>
Veneta, Oregon<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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Message: 8<br>
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2026 11:13:15 +0000 (UTC)<br>
From: DAVID MASSEY &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: Tony Drews &lt;[email-masked]&gt;,&nbsp; &quot;[email-masked].=
net&quot;<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;,=
&nbsp; &quot;auprichard uprichard.net&quot;<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;=
,&nbsp; dave northrup &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue<br>
<br>
But you are right in that there wasn't a fuse in the beginning and it was a=
dded as an afterthought.? It's a good idea regardless.<br>
Dave <br>
<br>
<br>
&nbsp;<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 05:21:07 PM CDT, dave nort=
hrup &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:&nbsp;&nbsp;
<br>
<br>
&nbsp;Correct me if I'm wrong - TRs never put fuses on light circuits<br>
<br>
-------- Original message --------From: DAVID MASSEY &lt;[email-masked]=
&gt; Date: 4/21/26 4:49 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Tony Drews &lt;[email-masked]=
m&gt;, [email-masked], &quot;auprichard uprichard.net&quot; &lt;au=
[email-masked]&gt;Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue
<br>
Good point.? it wouldn't.? But the information offered was a bit sparce.? I=
s it just the tail lights and do the brake turn signal lights work?<br>
I believe there is a fuse for those lights somewhere in the harness.? It wa=
s a dealer upgrade at some point.? Later TR's have a fuse in the fuse block=
 for that.<br>
Dave <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 10:40:26 AM CDT, auprichard uprichard.net &lt=
;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
But how would bad grounds affect the dash lights?<br>
<br>
?<br>
<br>
From: Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;On Behalf Of Tony Dre=
ws<br>
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 10:05 PM<br>
To: [email-masked]<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue<br>
<br>
?<br>
<br>
I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body=
 was painted they may no longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On 4/20/2026 5:3=
8 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?=
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body=
 was painted they may no longer be grounded.<br>
<br>
Regards, Tony<br>
<br>
On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
Yes ? same circuit.? But I?d also expect the front side lights / running li=
ghts not to be working and possibly the headlights too.<br>
<br>
?<br>
<br>
Get under the dash and check the wires in and out of the light switch.<br>
<br>
?<br>
<br>
From: Triumphs&lt;[email-masked]&gt; On Behalf Of Allan St=
ults<br>
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM<br>
To: [email-masked]<br>
Subject: [TR] electrical issue<br>
<br>
?<br>
<br>
I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it apart to=
 paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home, I discovered =
that the tail lights and dash lights were not working. All other electrical=
 items are working.<br>
<br>
I have a '62 TR 3B.? I recently had it painted.? The painter took it apart =
to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.).? After bringing it home, I discover=
ed that the tail lights and dash lights were not working.? All other electr=
ical items are working.? Are those
 2 items, dash and tail lights on the same circuit?? Everything was working=
 before the paint job.<br>
<br>
?<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance for any help,<br>
<br>
?<br>
<br>
Allan Stults<br>
<br>
Veneta, Oregon<br>
<br>
<br>
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Message: 9<br>
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2026 11:16:07 +0000 (UTC)<br>
From: DAVID MASSEY &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: Tony Drews &lt;[email-masked]&gt;,&nbsp; &quot;[email-masked].=
net&quot;<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;,=
&nbsp; &quot;auprichard uprichard.net&quot;<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;=
,&nbsp; Allan Stults &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue<br>
<br>
As you may have seen in a previous post, many (most?) TR3's and TR3A's had =
a fuse added to this circuit to protect against accident damage to the tail=
 lights causing a short circuit.? This in-line fuse may be in the passenger=
 footwell or under hood near the
 voltage regulator.<br>
Dave <br>
<br>
<br>
&nbsp;<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 05:55:01 PM CDT, Allan Stu=
lts &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:&nbsp;&nbsp;
<br>
<br>
&nbsp;The brake lights work as do the turn signals.? All gauges work as doe=
s the heater fan.? Only the tail lights and dash lights do not work.? I bel=
ieve there are only 2 fuses for the car, correct?? I've replaced them both.=
? I can find no loose wires under the
 dash.? The wiring harness was replaced 2 years ago with a high quality har=
ness.? Everything worked until the paint job.<br>
Thanks again all for your info,<br>
Allan<br>
On 4/21/2026 at 2:41 PM, &quot;DAVID MASSEY&quot; &lt;[email-masked]&gt=
; wrote:<br>
Good point.? it wouldn't.? But the information offered was a bit sparce.? I=
s it just the tail lights and do the brake turn signal lights work?<br>
I believe there is a fuse for those lights somewhere in the harness.? It wa=
s a dealer upgrade at some point.? Later TR's have a fuse in the fuse block=
 for that.<br>
Dave <br>
<br>
<br>
&nbsp;<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 10:40:26 AM CDT, auprichar=
d uprichard.net &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:&nbsp;&nbsp;
<br>
<br>
&nbsp;<br>
But how would bad grounds affect the dash lights?<br>
&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;?<br>
&nbsp;<br>
From: Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;On Behalf Of Tony Dre=
ws<br>
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 10:05 PM<br>
To: [email-masked]<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue<br>
&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;?<br>
&nbsp;<br>
I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body=
 was painted they may no longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On 4/20/2026 5:3=
8 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?=
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?<br>
&nbsp;<br>
<br>
&nbsp;<br>
I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body=
 was painted they may no longer be grounded.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Regards, Tony<br>
&nbsp;<br>
On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote:<br>
&nbsp;<br>
<br>
Yes ? same circuit.? But I?d also expect the front side lights / running li=
ghts not to be working and possibly the headlights too.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
?<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Get under the dash and check the wires in and out of the light switch.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
?<br>
&nbsp;<br>
From: Triumphs&lt;[email-masked]&gt;On Behalf Of Allan Stu=
lts<br>
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM<br>
To: [email-masked]<br>
Subject: [TR] electrical issue<br>
&nbsp;<br>
?<br>
&nbsp;<br>
I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it apart to=
 paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home, I discovered =
that the tail lights and dash lights were not working. All other electrical=
 items are working.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
I have a '62 TR 3B.? I recently had it painted.? The painter took it apart =
to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.).? After bringing it home, I discover=
ed that the tail lights and dash lights were not working.? All other electr=
ical items are working.? Are those
 2 items, dash and tail lights on the same circuit?? Everything was working=
 before the paint job.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
?<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Thanks in advance for any help,<br>
&nbsp;<br>
?<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Allan Stults<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Veneta, Oregon<br>
&nbsp;<br>
<br>
<br>
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Message: 10<br>
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2026 11:48:55 +0000<br>
From: auprichard uprichard.net &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: &quot;Andrew S. Mace&quot; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, &quot;triumphs@a=
utox.team.net&quot;<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;,=
 dave northrup &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] new hubs<br>
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Replace them, shorten them or buy spacers. Spacers are my preferred route a=
s the wheels sit out a little more.<br>
<br>
The interference isn?t with the spacers ? if you don?t deal with the studs =
issue they will hit the wheels themselves.<br>
<br>
From: Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt; On Behalf Of Andrew =
S. Mace<br>
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2026 12:04 AM<br>
To: [email-masked]; dave northrup &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] new hubs<br>
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As I recall, various factory service bulletins noted that 5/16&quot; needed=
 to be removed from the studs. --Andy Andrew Mace [email-masked]&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>&gt; *Mrs I=
rrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? *Man: Well, no ...
 It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph<br>
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As I recall, various factory service bulletins noted that 5/16&quot; needed=
 to be removed from the studs.<br>
<br>
--Andy<br>
Andrew Mace<br>
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<br>
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Hi.&nbsp; I?m going to order adapters, wire wheels and tires as soon as my =
project gets close to completion (1958 Triumph TR3A).&nbsp; I purchased the=
se hubs from BPNorthwest, and I am trying to figure out if I need to shorte=
n the wheel studs.&nbsp; They are .938? long.&nbsp;
 Will that interfere with the adapters?<br>
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Message: 11<br>
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2026 11:57:07 +0000<br>
From: auprichard uprichard.net &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: Allan Stults &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, DAVID MASSEY<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, Tony=
 Drews &lt;[email-masked]&gt;,<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;[email-masked]&qu=
ot; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue<br>
Message-ID:<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;BYAPR07MB42792E02BF6D0DAB9DE=
[email-masked]&gt;<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
<br>
Allan ? are you saying the front side lights / running lights and headlight=
s are working normally?<br>
<br>
Are you absolutely sure the dash lights aren?t working?&nbsp; Sometimes it =
can be hard to see.&nbsp; Park the car in the garage and go out when it is =
dark to check them.<br>
<br>
<br>
From: Allan Stults &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2026 6:55 PM<br>
To: DAVID MASSEY &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; Tony Drews &lt;tony@tonydrews.=
com&gt;; [email-masked]; auprichard uprichard.net &lt;auprichard@u=
prichard.net&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue<br>
<br>
The brake lights work as do the turn signals.&nbsp; All gauges work as does=
 the heater fan.&nbsp; Only the tail lights and dash lights do not work.&nb=
sp; I believe there are only 2 fuses for the car, correct?&nbsp; I've repla=
ced them both.&nbsp; I can find no loose wires under the
 dash.&nbsp; The wiring harness was replaced 2 years ago with a high qualit=
y harness.&nbsp; Everything worked until the paint job.<br>
<br>
Thanks again all for your info,<br>
<br>
Allan<br>
<br>
On 4/21/2026 at 2:41 PM, &quot;DAVID MASSEY&quot; &lt;[email-masked]&lt=
;mailto:[email-masked]&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
Good point.&nbsp; it wouldn't.&nbsp; But the information offered was a bit =
sparce.&nbsp; Is it just the tail lights and do the brake turn signal light=
s work?<br>
<br>
I believe there is a fuse for those lights somewhere in the harness.&nbsp; =
It was a dealer upgrade at some point.&nbsp; Later TR's have a fuse in the =
fuse block for that.<br>
<br>
Dave<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 10:40:26 AM CDT, auprichard uprichard.net &lt=
;[email-masked]&lt;mailto:[email-masked]&gt;&gt; wrote:=
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
But how would bad grounds affect the dash lights?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
From: Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&lt;mailto:triumphs-bounc=
[email-masked]&gt;&gt; On Behalf Of Tony Drews<br>
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 10:05 PM<br>
To: [email-masked]&lt;mailto:[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body=
 was painted they may no longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On 4/20/2026 5:3=
8 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?=
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?<br>
<br>
I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body=
 was painted they may no longer be grounded.<br>
<br>
Regards, Tony<br>
<br>
On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote:<br>
<br>
Yes ? same circuit.&nbsp; But I?d also expect the front side lights / runni=
ng lights not to be working and possibly the headlights too.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Get under the dash and check the wires in and out of the light switch.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
From: Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&lt;mailto:triumphs-bounc=
[email-masked]&gt;&gt; On Behalf Of Allan Stults<br>
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM<br>
To: [email-masked]&lt;mailto:[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Subject: [TR] electrical issue<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it apart to=
 paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home, I discovered =
that the tail lights and dash lights were not working. All other electrical=
 items are working.<br>
<br>
I have a '62 TR 3B.&nbsp; I recently had it painted.&nbsp; The painter took=
 it apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.).&nbsp; After bringing it h=
ome, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not working.&nb=
sp; All other electrical items are working.&nbsp; Are those
 2 items, dash and tail lights on the same circuit?&nbsp; Everything was wo=
rking before the paint job.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance for any help,<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Allan Stults<br>
<br>
Veneta, Oregon<br>
<br>
<br>
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