Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue

From: auprichard uprichard.net <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2026 22:38:03 +0000

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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
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It could be the paint is too good and your light fixtures are not being gro=
unded.=C2=A0 Try exposing some bare sheetmetal where they mount up.
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Yes =E2=80=93 same circuit.=C2=A0 But I=E2=80=99d also expect the front sid=
e lights / running lights not to be working and possibly the headlights too=
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Get under the dash and check the wires in and out of the light switch.
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From: Triumphs <[email-masked]>On Behalf Of Allan Stults
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [TR] electrical issue
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I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it apart to=
 paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home, I discovered =
that the tail lights and dash lights were not working. All other electrical=
 items are working.
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I have a '62 TR 3B.=C2=A0 I recently had it painted.=C2=A0 The painter took=
 it apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.).=C2=A0 After bringing it h=
ome, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not working.=C2=
=A0 All other electrical items are working.=C2=A0 Are those 2 items, dash a=
nd tail lights on the same circuit?=C2=A0 Everything was working before the=
 paint job.
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Thanks in advance for any help,
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Allan Stults
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64140294pfptpreheaderf0cb7f1" style=3D"display: none;"><span style=3D"font-=
size:1.0pt;color:white;">I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The=
 painter took it apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringi=
ng it home, I discovered that the
 tail lights and dash lights were not working. All other electrical items a=
re working.
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ptos, sans-serif;" class=3D"ydp91af9746yiv4764140294MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:sans-serif;">I have a '62=
 TR 3B.&nbsp; I recently had it painted.&nbsp; The painter took it apart to=
 paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.).&nbsp; After bringing it
 home, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not working.&=
nbsp; All other electrical items are working.&nbsp; Are those 2 items, dash=
 and tail lights on the same circuit?&nbsp; Everything was working before t=
he paint job.</span></p>=20
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From: Tony Drews <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2026 21:04:49 -0500

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I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the 
body was painted they may no longer be grounded.

Regards, Tony

On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote:
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> Yes – same circuit.  But I’d also expect the front side lights / 
> running lights not to be working and possibly the headlights too.
>
> *From:*Triumphs <[email-masked]> *On Behalf Of *Allan 
> Stults
> *Sent:* Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM
> *To:* [email-masked]
> *Subject:* [TR] electrical issue
>
> I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it 
> apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home, 
> I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not working. 
> All other electrical items are working.
>
> I have a '62 TR 3B.  I recently had it painted.  The painter took it 
> apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home, 
> I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not working.  
> All other electrical items are working.  Are those 2 items, dash and 
> tail lights on the same circuit?  Everything was working before the 
> paint job.
>
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    <p>I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body
      and the body was painted they may no longer be grounded.</p>
    <p>Regards, Tony</p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Yes – same circuit.  But I’d also expect
          the front side lights / running lights not to be working and
          possibly the headlights too.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Get under the dash and check the wires in
          and out of the light switch.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">
              Triumphs <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>
              <b>On Behalf Of </b>Allan Stults<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM<br>
              <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> [TR] electrical issue<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span class="pfptpreheaderf0cb7f1"><span
              style="font-size:1.0pt;color:white">I have a '62 TR 3B. I
              recently had it painted. The painter took it apart to
              paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it
              home, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights
              were not working. All other electrical items are working.
            </span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:150%"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">I
              have a '62 TR 3B.  I recently had it painted.  The painter
              took it apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). 
              After bringing it home, I discovered that the tail lights
              and dash lights were not working.  All other electrical
              items are working.  Are those 2 items, dash and tail
              lights on the same circuit?  Everything was working before
              the paint job.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:150%"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Thanks
              in advance for any help,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:150%"><span
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:150%"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Veneta,
              Oregon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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I had a friend that lost tail lights after rear end was repainted. 
Turned out his lights had lost their ground due to the paint.

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    <p>I had a friend that lost tail lights after rear end was
      repainted. Turned out his lights had lost their ground due to the
      paint. </p>

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Good point.=C2=A0 it wouldn't.=C2=A0 But the information offered was a bit =
sparce.=C2=A0 Is it just the tail lights and do the brake turn signal light=
s work?
I believe there is a fuse for those lights somewhere in the harness.=C2=A0 =
It was a dealer upgrade at some point.=C2=A0 Later TR's have a fuse in the =
fuse block for that.
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To: [email-masked]
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I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body=
 was painted they may no longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On 4/20/2026 5:3=
8 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote: =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=
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I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body=
 was painted they may no longer be grounded.
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Regards, Tony
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=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Good point.&nbsp; it wouldn't.&nbsp; But the=
 information offered was a bit sparce.&nbsp; Is it just the tail lights and=
 do the brake turn signal lights work?</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D=
"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I believe there is=
 a fuse for those lights somewhere in the harness.&nbsp; It was a dealer up=
grade at some point.&nbsp; Later TR's have a fuse in the fuse block for tha=
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                        On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 10:40:26 AM CDT, aupr=
ichard uprichard.net &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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ize: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; color: black;"><span style=3D"co=
lor:windowtext;">But how would bad grounds affect the dash lights?</span></=
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lor:windowtext;"> &nbsp;</span></p>=20
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><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;">=
 Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tony Drews<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 20, 2026 10:05 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] electrical issue</span></p>=20
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ize: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; color: black;"> &nbsp;</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-s=
ize: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; color: black;"><span class=3D"yd=
pa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335pfptpreheader22494b"><span style=3D"font-size:1.0pt;c=
olor:white;">I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body=
 and the body was painted they may no longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On =
4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard
 uprichard.net wrote: =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=
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<p>I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the b=
ody was painted they may no longer be grounded.</p>=20
<p>Regards, Tony</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-s=
ize: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; color: black;">On 4/20/2026 5:38=
 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote:</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-s=
ize: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; color: black;">Yes =E2=80=93 sam=
e circuit.&nbsp; But I=E2=80=99d also expect the front side lights / runnin=
g lights not to be working and possibly the headlights too.</p>=20
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ize: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; color: black;">&nbsp;</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-s=
ize: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; color: black;">Get under the das=
h and check the wires in and out of the light switch.</p>=20
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ize: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; color: black;">&nbsp;</p>=20
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0in 0in;">
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ize: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; color: black;"><b><span style=3D=
"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> Triumphs
<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"=
color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank=
">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Allan Stults<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=
=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_b=
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<b>Subject:</b> [TR] electrical issue</span></p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-s=
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ize: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; color: black;"><span class=3D"yd=
pa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335pfptpreheaderf0cb7f1" style=3D"display: none;"><span =
style=3D"font-size:1.0pt;color:white;">I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had i=
t painted. The painter took it apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.)=
. After bringing it home, I discovered that the
 tail lights and dash lights were not working. All other electrical items a=
re working.
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"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:sans-serif;"=
>I have a '62 TR 3B.&nbsp; I recently had it painted.&nbsp; The painter too=
k it apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.).&nbsp; After bringing it
 home, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not working.&=
nbsp; All other electrical items are working.&nbsp; Are those 2 items, dash=
 and tail lights on the same circuit?&nbsp; Everything was working before t=
he paint job.</span></p>=20
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>&nbsp;</span></p>=20
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ptos, sans-serif; color: black;" class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:sans-serif;"=
>Thanks in advance for any help,</span></p>=20
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Isn't there supposed to be a ground strap from the engine block to the =
body somewhere?

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Alex Thomson

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uprichard.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2026 7:43 AM
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Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue

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Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue

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I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the =
body was painted they may no longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On =
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I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the =
body was painted they may no longer be grounded.

Regards, Tony

Yes =E2=80=93 same circuit.  But I=E2=80=99d also expect the front side =
lights / running lights not to be working and possibly the headlights =
too.

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Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM
Subject: [TR] electrical issue

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I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it apart =
to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home, I =
discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not working. All =
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apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.).  After bringing it home, I =
discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not working.  All =
other electrical items are working.  Are those 2 items, dash and tail =
lights on the same circuit?  Everything was working before the paint =
job.

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Allan Stults

Veneta, Oregon

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class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Isn't there supposed to be a ground strap from the engine block to the =
body somewhere?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Alex Thomson<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowte=
xt'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowte=
xt'> Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>auprichard uprichard.net<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 21, 2026 =
7:43 AM<br><b>To:</b> Tony Drews &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] electrical =
issue<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>But how would bad grounds affect the dash =
lights?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowte=
xt'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowte=
xt'> Triumphs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
am.net</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tony Drews<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, =
April 20, 2026 10:05 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b=
>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] electrical issue<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
class=3Dpfptpreheader22494b><span =
style=3D'font-size:1.0pt;color:white'>I'd check grounds too - if the =
lights are grounded to the body and the body was painted they may no =
longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard =
uprichard.net wrote: =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =
=E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =
=E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =
=E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =
=E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =
=E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =
=E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =
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</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-line-height-alt:.75pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:1.0pt;color:white'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><=
p>I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the =
body was painted they may no longer be =
grounded.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Regards, Tony<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal>Yes =
=E2=80=93 same circuit.&nbsp; But I=E2=80=99d also expect the front side =
lights / running lights not to be working and possibly the headlights =
too.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Get under the dash and check the wires in and out of =
the light switch.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Triumphs <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;triumphs-bounces@auto=
x.team.net&gt;</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Allan Stults<br><b>Sent:</b> =
Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b=
>Subject:</b> [TR] electrical issue</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
class=3Dpfptpreheaderf0cb7f1><span =
style=3D'font-size:1.0pt;color:white'>I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had =
it painted. The painter took it apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, =
etc.). After bringing it home, I discovered that the tail lights and =
dash lights were not working. All other electrical items are working. =
</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'line-height:150%'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif=
'>I have a '62 TR 3B.&nbsp; I recently had it painted.&nbsp; The painter =
took it apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.).&nbsp; After =
bringing it home, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were =
not working.&nbsp; All other electrical items are working.&nbsp; Are =
those 2 items, dash and tail lights on the same circuit?&nbsp; =
Everything was working before the paint =
job.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'line-height:150%'><span =
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style=3D'line-height:150%'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif=
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Correct me if I'm wrong - TRs never put fuses on light circuits

-------- Original message --------
From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: 4/21/26 4:49 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: Tony Drews <[email-masked]>, [email-masked], "auprichard u=
prichard.net" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue

Good point.  it wouldn't.  But the information offered was a bit sparce.  I=
s it just the tail lights and do the brake turn signal lights work?

I believe there is a fuse for those lights somewhere in the harness.  It wa=
s a dealer upgrade at some point.  Later TR's have a fuse in the fuse block=
 for that.

Dave

On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 10:40:26 AM CDT, auprichard uprichard.net <au=
[email-masked]> wrote:

From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Tony Drews
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 10:05 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue

I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body=
 was painted they may no longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On 4/20/2026 5:3=
8 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote: =9E =9E =9E =9E =9E =9E =9E =9E =9E =
=9E =9E =9E =9E =9E =9E =9E =9E =9E =9E =9E =9E =9E =9E =9E =9E =9E =9E =9E=
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=9E =9E =9E =9E =9E

Regards, Tony

Yes =96 same circuit.  But I=92d also expect the front side lights / runnin=
g lights not to be working and possibly the headlights too.

tox.team.net> On Behalf Of Allan Stults
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM
Subject: [TR] electrical issue

I have a '62 TR 3B.  I recently had it painted.  The painter took it apart =
to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.).  After bringing it home, I discover=
ed that the tail lights and dash lights were not working.  All other electr=
ical items are working.  Are those 2 items, dash and tail lights on the sam=
e circuit?  Everything was working before the paint job.

Allan Stults

Veneta, Oregon

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Correct me if I'm wrong - TRs never put fuses on light circuits
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turn signal lights work?</div>
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e harness.&nbsp; It was a dealer upgrade at some point.&nbsp; Later TR's ha=
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<span style=3D"color:windowtext">But how would bad grounds affect the dash =
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t">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:sans-serif;=
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tony Drews<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 20, 2026 10:05 PM<br clear=3D"none">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] electrical issue</span></p>
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font-size:1.0pt; color:white">I'd check grounds too - if the lights are gro=
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<p>I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the b=
ody was painted they may no longer be grounded.</p>
<p>Regards, Tony</p>
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Yes =96 same circuit.&nbsp; But I=92d also expect the front side lights / r=
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Get under the dash and check the wires in and out of the light switch.</p>
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<b>Subject:</b> [TR] electrical issue</span></p>
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<span class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335pfptpreheaderf0cb7f1" style=3D"displ=
ay:none"><span style=3D"font-size:1.0pt; color:white">I have a '62 TR 3B. I=
 recently had it painted. The painter took it apart to paint (fenders, door=
s, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home,
 I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not working. All ot=
her electrical items are working.
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I have a '62 TR 3B.&nbsp; I recently had it painted.&nbsp; The painter took=
 it apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.).&nbsp; After bringing it h=
ome, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights
 were not working.&nbsp; All other electrical items are working.&nbsp; Are =
those 2 items, dash and tail lights on the same circuit?&nbsp; Everything w=
as working before the paint job.</span></p>
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The brake lights work as do the turn signals.  All gauges work as does
the heater fan.  Only the tail lights and dash lights do not work.  I
believe there are only 2 fuses for the car, correct?  I've replaced
them both.  I can find no loose wires under the dash.  The wiring
harness was replaced 2 years ago with a high quality harness. 
Everything worked until the paint job.
Thanks again all for your info,
Allan
On 4/21/2026 at 2:41 PM, "DAVID MASSEY"  wrote:Good point.  it
wouldn't.  But the information offered was a bit sparce.  Is it just
the tail lights and do the brake turn signal lights work?
I believe there is a fuse for those lights somewhere in the harness. 
It was a dealer upgrade at some point.  Later TR's have a fuse in the
fuse block for that.
Dave 
                                                                      
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auprichard uprichard.net  wrote:                                      
                
	But how would bad grounds affect the dash lights?  
	From: Triumphs  On Behalf Of Tony Drews
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 To: [email-masked]
 Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue   
	I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and
the body was painted they may no longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On
4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard  uprichard.net wrote: 

	I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and
the body was painted they may no longer be grounded.  

	Regards, Tony   

	Get under the dash and check the wires in and out of the light
switch.  
	From: Triumphs  On Behalf Of Allan Stults

	I have a '62 TR 3B.  I recently had it painted.  The painter took it
apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.).  After bringing it 
home, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not
working.  All other electrical items are working.  Are those 2 items,
dash and tail lights on the same circuit?  Everything was working
before the paint job.    
	Thanks in advance for any help,    
	Allan Stults    

	Veneta, Oregon   
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<span style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 14px; line-height: 150%;"><di=
v>The brake lights work as do the turn signals.&nbsp; All gauges work as do=
es the heater fan.&nbsp; Only the tail lights and dash lights do not work.&=
nbsp; I believe there are only 2 fuses for the car, correct?&nbsp; I've rep=
laced them both.&nbsp; I can find no loose wires under the dash.&nbsp; The =
wiring harness was replaced 2 years ago with a high quality harness.&nbsp; =
Everything worked until the paint job.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks agai=
n all for your info,</div><div><br></div><div>Allan</div><br><div class=3D"=
hush-quoting-section">On 4/21/2026 at 2:41 PM, "DAVID MASSEY" &lt;dave1mass=
[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<blockquote class=3D"hush-quote" style=3D"border-left:s=
olid 1px #ccc;margin-left:10px;padding-left:10px;"><div style=3D"display:bl=
ock"><div style=3D"display:block"></div><div style=3D"display:block"><div c=
lass=3D"ydp1a9cf278yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Arial, Helvetica,=
 sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Good point.&nbsp; it wou=
ldn't.&nbsp; But the information offered was a bit sparce.&nbsp; Is it just=
 the tail lights and do the brake turn signal lights work?</div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I believe there is a fuse for those lights=
 somewhere in the harness.&nbsp; It was a dealer upgrade at some point.&nbs=
p; Later TR's have a fuse in the fuse block for that.</div><div><br></div><=
div class=3D"ydp1a9cf278signature"><div style=3D"color:#000;font-style:norm=
al;font-weight:400;font-size:12pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial, Hel=
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erif;"><div><font size=3D"4">Dave <br></font></div><div><span style=3D"font=
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                        On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 10:40:26 AM CDT, aupr=
ichard uprichard.net &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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<p class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal" style=3D"font-size:12pt;font=
-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:0;"><span style=3D"color:window=
text;">But how would bad grounds affect the dash lights?</span></p>=20
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-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:0;"><span style=3D"color:window=
text;"> &nbsp;</span></p>=20
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-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:0;"><b><span style=3D"font-size=
:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;">From:</span></b><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;"> Triumphs &lt;=
[email-masked]&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tony Drews<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 20, 2026 10:05 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] electrical issue</span></p>=20
</div>
<p class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal" style=3D"font-size:12pt;font=
-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:0;"> &nbsp;</p>=20
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-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:0;"><span class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2y=
iv8530706335pfptpreheader22494b"><span style=3D"font-size:1pt;color:#FFF;">=
I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body=
 was painted they may no longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On 4/20/2026 5:3=
8 PM, auprichard
 uprichard.net wrote: =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=
=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=
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=E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=
=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=
=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =
=E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=
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0;" class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1p=
t;color:#FFF;"></span></p>=20
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<p>I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the b=
ody was painted they may no longer be grounded.</p>=20
<p>Regards, Tony</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal" style=3D"font-size:12pt;font=
-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:0;">On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, aupri=
chard uprichard.net wrote:</p>=20
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;">
<p class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal" style=3D"font-size:12pt;font=
-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:0;">Yes =E2=80=93 same circuit.=
&nbsp; But I=E2=80=99d also expect the front side lights / running lights n=
ot to be working and possibly the headlights too.</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal" style=3D"font-size:12pt;font=
-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:0;">&nbsp;</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal" style=3D"font-size:12pt;font=
-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:0;">Get under the dash and chec=
k the wires in and out of the light switch.</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal" style=3D"font-size:12pt;font=
-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:0;">&nbsp;</p>=20
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1pt;padding:3pt 0 0;">
<p class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal" style=3D"font-size:12pt;font=
-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:0;"><b><span style=3D"font-size=
:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11p=
t;font-family:sans-serif;"> Triumphs
<a shape=3D"rect" style=3D"color:blue;text-decoration:underline;">&lt;trium=
[email-masked]&gt;</a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Allan Stults<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> <a shape=3D"rect" style=3D"color:blue;text-decoration:underline;=
">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> [TR] electrical issue</span></p>=20
</div>
<p class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal" style=3D"font-size:12pt;font=
-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:0;">&nbsp;</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal" style=3D"font-size:12pt;font=
-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:0;"><span class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2y=
iv8530706335pfptpreheaderf0cb7f1" style=3D"display:none;"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:1pt;color:#FFF;">I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The=
 painter took it apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringi=
ng it home, I discovered that the
 tail lights and dash lights were not working. All other electrical items a=
re working.
</span></span></p>=20
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<p style=3D"line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos, sans-serif;c=
olor:#000;margin:0;" class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:sans-serif;">I have a '6=
2 TR 3B.&nbsp; I recently had it painted.&nbsp; The painter took it apart t=
o paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.).&nbsp; After bringing it
 home, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not working.&=
nbsp; All other electrical items are working.&nbsp; Are those 2 items, dash=
 and tail lights on the same circuit?&nbsp; Everything was working before t=
he paint job.</span></p>=20
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<div>
<p style=3D"line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos, sans-serif;c=
olor:#000;margin:0;" class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:sans-serif;">&nbsp;</spa=
n></p>=20
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<p style=3D"line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos, sans-serif;c=
olor:#000;margin:0;" class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:sans-serif;">Thanks in a=
dvance for any help,</span></p>=20
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<p style=3D"line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos, sans-serif;c=
olor:#000;margin:0;" class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:sans-serif;">&nbsp;</spa=
n></p>=20
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<p style=3D"line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos, sans-serif;c=
olor:#000;margin:0;" class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:sans-serif;">Allan Stult=
s</span></p>=20
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olor:#000;margin:0;" class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:sans-serif;">Veneta, Ore=
gon</span></p>=20
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The TR6 definitely does.=C2=A0 And I recall reading that the TR3 had an iss=
ue where the tail lights were susceptible to damage from other cars,=C2=A0 =
being mounted so low, that the red wire could get grounded out and when the=
 lights were switched on the harness would melt causing potential fire so t=
he factor at some point put in an in-line fuse just for such an occurrence.
In fact, a quick Google search shows several sources indicating that fact a=
nd the location of the fuse (although the location varies from passenger fo=
otwell and under hood next to the voltage regulator.
But the fact remains that if the tail lights AND the dash lights are not wo=
rking it is likely a common feed point interruption which could be a fuse o=
r a dodgey bullet connector.
Dave=20

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    On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 05:21:07 PM CDT, dave northrup <dave@rant=
eer.com> wrote:  =20

-------- Original message --------From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> D=
ate: 4/21/26 4:49 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Tony Drews <[email-masked]>, trium=
[email-masked], "auprichard uprichard.net" <[email-masked]>Su=
bject: Re: [TR] electrical issue=20
Good point.=C2=A0 it wouldn't.=C2=A0 But the information offered was a bit =
sparce.=C2=A0 Is it just the tail lights and do the brake turn signal light=
s work?
I believe there is a fuse for those lights somewhere in the harness.=C2=A0 =
It was a dealer upgrade at some point.=C2=A0 Later TR's have a fuse in the =
fuse block for that.
Dave=20

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Regards, Tony

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

From: Triumphs<[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Allan Stults
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [TR] electrical issue

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Allan Stults

Veneta, Oregon

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=3D"font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">The TR6 definitely does.&nbsp; And I recall =
reading that the TR3 had an issue where the tail lights were susceptible to=
 damage from other cars,&nbsp; being mounted so low, that the red wire coul=
d get grounded out and when the lights were switched on the harness would m=
elt causing potential fire so the factor at some point put in an in-line fu=
se just for such an occurrence.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"=
><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">In fact, a quick Google s=
earch shows several sources indicating that fact and the location of the fu=
se (although the location varies from passenger footwell and under hood nex=
t to the voltage regulator.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">But the fact remains that if =
the tail lights AND the dash lights are not working it is likely a common f=
eed point interruption which could be a fuse or a dodgey bullet connector.<=
/div><div><br></div><div class=3D"ydp65affaa6signature"><div style=3D"color=
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Correct me if I'm wrong - TRs never put fuses on light circuits
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<div>From: DAVID MASSEY &lt;[email-masked]&gt; </div>
<div>Date: 4/21/26 4:49 PM (GMT-06:00) </div>
<div>To: Tony Drews &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, [email-masked], "a=
uprichard uprichard.net" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;
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<div>Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue </div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Good point.&nbsp; it wouldn't.&nbsp; But the information o=
ffered was a bit sparce.&nbsp; Is it just the tail lights and do the brake =
turn signal lights work?</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I believe there is a fuse for those lights somewhere in th=
e harness.&nbsp; It was a dealer upgrade at some point.&nbsp; Later TR's ha=
ve a fuse in the fuse block for that.</div>
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sday, April 21, 2026 at 10:40:26 AM CDT, auprichard uprichard.net &lt;aupri=
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<span style=3D"color:windowtext;">But how would bad grounds affect the dash=
 lights?</span></p>
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lack;" class=3D"ydpae51dbd7yiv3724676609ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal">
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">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;co=
lor:windowtext;"> Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tony Drews<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 20, 2026 10:05 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] electrical issue</span></p>
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r22494b"><span style=3D"font-size:1.0pt;color:white;">I'd check grounds too=
 - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body was painted they may=
 no longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM,
 auprichard uprichard.net wrote: =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =
=E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=
=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=
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<p>I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the b=
ody was painted they may no longer be grounded.</p>
<p>Regards, Tony</p>
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On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote:</p>
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Yes =E2=80=93 same circuit.&nbsp; But I=E2=80=99d also expect the front sid=
e lights / running lights not to be working and possibly the headlights too=
.</p>
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Get under the dash and check the wires in and out of the light switch.</p>
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<b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">From:</span></b=
><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> Triumphs
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&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Allan Stult=
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=
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<b>Subject:</b> [TR] electrical issue</span></p>
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<span style=3D"display:none;" class=3D"ydpae51dbd7yiv3724676609ydpa5d3f0d2y=
iv8530706335pfptpreheaderf0cb7f1"><span style=3D"font-size:1.0pt;color:whit=
e;">I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it apar=
t to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home,
 I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not working. All ot=
her electrical items are working.
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<span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:sans-serif;">I=
 have a '62 TR 3B.&nbsp; I recently had it painted.&nbsp; The painter took =
it apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.).&nbsp; After bringing it ho=
me, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights
 were not working.&nbsp; All other electrical items are working.&nbsp; Are =
those 2 items, dash and tail lights on the same circuit?&nbsp; Everything w=
as working before the paint job.</span></p>
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<span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:sans-serif;">T=
hanks in advance for any help,</span></p>
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Correct me if I'm wrong - TRs never put fuses on light circuits
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<div>Date: 4/21/26 4:49 PM (GMT-06:00) </div>
<div>To: Tony Drews &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, [email-masked], "a=
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<div>Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue </div>
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ffered was a bit sparce.&nbsp; Is it just the tail lights and do the brake =
turn signal lights work?</div>
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As you may have seen in a previous post, many (most?) TR3's and TR3A's had =
a fuse added to this circuit to protect against accident damage to the tail=
 lights causing a short circuit.=C2=A0 This in-line fuse may be in the pass=
enger footwell or under hood near the voltage regulator.
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    On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 05:55:01 PM CDT, Allan Stults <acstults@h=
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 The brake lights work as do the turn signals.=C2=A0 All gauges work as doe=
s the heater fan.=C2=A0 Only the tail lights and dash lights do not work.=
=C2=A0 I believe there are only 2 fuses for the car, correct?=C2=A0 I've re=
placed them both.=C2=A0 I can find no loose wires under the dash.=C2=A0 The=
 wiring harness was replaced 2 years ago with a high quality harness.=C2=A0=
 Everything worked until the paint job.
Thanks again all for your info,
Allan
On 4/21/2026 at 2:41 PM, "DAVID MASSEY" <[email-masked]> wrote:
Good point.=C2=A0 it wouldn't.=C2=A0 But the information offered was a bit =
sparce.=C2=A0 Is it just the tail lights and do the brake turn signal light=
s work?
I believe there is a fuse for those lights somewhere in the harness.=C2=A0 =
It was a dealer upgrade at some point.=C2=A0 Later TR's have a fuse in the =
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=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">As you may have seen in a previous post, man=
y (most?) TR3's and TR3A's had a fuse added to this circuit to protect agai=
nst accident damage to the tail lights causing a short circuit.&nbsp; This =
in-line fuse may be in the passenger footwell or under hood near the voltag=
e regulator.</div><div><br></div><div class=3D"ydp2fec14f7signature"><div s=
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                        On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 05:55:01 PM CDT, Alla=
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=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:14px;line-height:150%;"></span><div>The bra=
ke lights work as do the turn signals.&nbsp; All gauges work as does the he=
ater fan.&nbsp; Only the tail lights and dash lights do not work.&nbsp; I b=
elieve there are only 2 fuses for the car, correct?&nbsp; I've replaced the=
m both.&nbsp; I can find no loose wires under the dash.&nbsp; The wiring ha=
rness was replaced 2 years ago with a high quality harness.&nbsp; Everythin=
g worked until the paint job.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Thank=
s again all for your info,</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Allan</d=
iv><br clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636yqt07711" class=3D=
"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636yqt9909146462"><div class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299=
636hush-quoting-section">On 4/21/2026 at 2:41 PM, "DAVID MASSEY" &lt;dave1m=
[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<blockquote style=3D"border-left:solid 1px #ccc;marg=
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rif;font-size:16px;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydp1a9cf278yahoo-styl=
e-wrap"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Good point.&nbsp; it wouldn't.&nbsp; But the =
information offered was a bit sparce.&nbsp; Is it just the tail lights and =
do the brake turn signal lights work?</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"no=
ne"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I believe there is a fuse for those lights somew=
here in the harness.&nbsp; It was a dealer upgrade at some point.&nbsp; Lat=
er TR's have a fuse in the fuse block for that.</div><div><br clear=3D"none=
"></div><div class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydp1a9cf278signature"><div st=
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ichard uprichard.net &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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an style=3D"color:windowtext;">But how would bad grounds affect the dash li=
ghts?</span></p>=20
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m:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:win=
dowtext;"> Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tony Drews<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 20, 2026 10:05 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] electrical issue</span></p>=20
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0;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal"> &n=
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0;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal"><sp=
an class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335pfptpreheader22=
494b"><span style=3D"font-size:1pt;color:#FFF;">I'd check grounds too - if =
the lights are grounded to the body and the body was painted they may no lo=
nger be grounded. Regards, Tony On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard
 uprichard.net wrote: =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=
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=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=
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<p>I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the b=
ody was painted they may no longer be grounded.</p>=20
<p>Regards, Tony</p>=20
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0;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal">On =
4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote:</p>=20
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0;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal">Yes=
 =E2=80=93 same circuit.&nbsp; But I=E2=80=99d also expect the front side l=
ights / running lights not to be working and possibly the headlights too.</=
p>=20
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0;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal">&nb=
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0;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal">Get=
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<span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;">From:</span></b><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> Triumphs
<a shape=3D"rect" style=3D"color:blue;text-decoration:underline;">&lt;trium=
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Allan Stults<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> <a shape=3D"rect" style=3D"color:blue;text-decoration:underline;=
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<b>Subject:</b> [TR] electrical issue</span></p>=20
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<p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:=
0;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"display:none;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8=
530706335pfptpreheaderf0cb7f1"><span style=3D"font-size:1pt;color:#FFF;">I =
have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it apart to p=
aint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home, I discovered th=
at the
 tail lights and dash lights were not working. All other electrical items a=
re working.
</span></span></p>=20
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olor:#000;margin:0;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706=
335MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:=
sans-serif;">I have a '62 TR 3B.&nbsp; I recently had it painted.&nbsp; The=
 painter took it apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.).&nbsp; After =
bringing it
 home, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not working.&=
nbsp; All other electrical items are working.&nbsp; Are those 2 items, dash=
 and tail lights on the same circuit?&nbsp; Everything was working before t=
he paint job.</span></p>=20
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olor:#000;margin:0;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706=
335MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:=
sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>=20
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olor:#000;margin:0;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706=
335MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:=
sans-serif;">Thanks in advance for any help,</span></p>=20
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olor:#000;margin:0;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706=
335MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:=
sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>=20
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olor:#000;margin:0;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706=
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335MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:=
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