Subject: Re: [TR] The List is Less Busy These Days

From: Cliff Hansen <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2025 19:02:51 +0000

29 years.

Cliff
1966 TR4A

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 14, 2025, at 9:09 AM, John Macartney <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> Just out of casual interest, how many are still here in comparison to say the Millenium? I suspect not many.
> I know BookFace has many adherents and I was on it for a while until I seemingly upset its algorithms by saying something they/it didn’t like and BookFace has informed me more than once when I try to rejoin that I’m banned for life. Okay Zuckerberg, I’m not in sympathy with your political inclinations anyway and I certainly got sick of receiving stuff your algorithms were convinced I’d like, when the reality was they bored me witless. I’ve been a reluctant subscriber to The Triumph Experience for a couple of years which also doesn’t grab me. It’s too Standard-Triumph model specific, people get upset when they accidentally post to the wrong forum and there has been some disquieting and very discourteous responses and no one seems to be particularly helpful. Mark’s monthly reminders tell me I’m logged to 6 Pack but I never get six pack stuff coming my way and even with the correct password, I can’t access it.
> The reality (for me) is that tech is going too fast for me to keep up with it and I refuse to spend any day of my surely now limited life transfixed by my smartphone screen that 99% of the rest of the world seems happy to do. I’m not enamoured by either my former iPhone or current Samsung as they’re both full of trash programs that hold zero interest and I can’t be bothered or motivated to learn how they work.
> Perhaps it’s better for me to once more return to the days of carbon paper, card index boxes and an abacus. At least I know how they work!
> 
> Jonmac
> 
>> On 12 Dec 2025, at 21:10, Will Daehler <[email-masked]> wrote:
>> 
>> Certainly the volume is down.
>> But I am still here, and read the digest most days, for about 28 years.  
>> During this time, I learned so much from all of you, and early on developed friends who helped me immensely. They shared parts, knowledge, and tools.
>> Without you guys and Mark's early computer skills,  all would have been lost.
>> Recently we have sort of re-assmbled on various Facebook sites.
>> 
>> Will Daehler
>> 63 TR4
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2025 21:18:40 +0000 (UTC)

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I've lost track but, yeah, about the same for me.
As for me, I never did Face Crook ... er book mainly because I had heard so=
 many bad things about it.=C2=A0 How they mine your information for fun and=
 profit and I didn't want to become an unpaid commodity for Mr. Z.=C2=A0 My=
 wife recently decided to delete her account and guess what?=C2=A0 You can'=
t.=C2=A0 It's like Hotel California, you can never leave.=C2=A0 The best yo=
u can do is ghost it.=C2=A0 But your profile is still out there.
Facebook is like dealing with Walmart or Amazon.=C2=A0 This list is like yo=
ur local, family-run corner shop.
Dave=20

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    On Sunday, December 14, 2025 at 02:39:10 PM CST, Cliff Hansen <cliff_ha=
[email-masked]> wrote:  =20

 29 years.

Cliff
1966 TR4A

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 14, 2025, at 9:09=E2=80=AFAM, John Macartney <[email-masked]=
om> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFJust out of casual interest, how many are still here in comparis=
on to say the Millenium? I suspect not many.
> I know BookFace has many adherents and I was on it for a while until I se=
emingly upset its algorithms by saying something they/it didn=E2=80=99t lik=
e and BookFace has informed me more than once when I try to rejoin that I=
=E2=80=99m banned for life. Okay Zuckerberg, I=E2=80=99m not in sympathy wi=
th your political inclinations anyway and I certainly got sick of receiving=
 stuff your algorithms were convinced I=E2=80=99d like, when the reality wa=
s they bored me witless. I=E2=80=99ve been a reluctant subscriber to The Tr=
iumph Experience for a couple of years which also doesn=E2=80=99t grab me. =
It=E2=80=99s too Standard-Triumph model specific, people get upset when the=
y accidentally post to the wrong forum and there has been some disquieting =
and very discourteous responses and no one seems to be particularly helpful=
. Mark=E2=80=99s monthly reminders tell me I=E2=80=99m logged to 6 Pack but=
 I never get six pack stuff coming my way and even with the correct passwor=
d, I can=E2=80=99t access it.
> The reality (for me) is that tech is going too fast for me to keep up wit=
h it and I refuse to spend any day of my surely now limited life transfixed=
 by my smartphone screen that 99% of the rest of the world seems happy to d=
o. I=E2=80=99m not enamoured by either my former iPhone or current Samsung =
as they=E2=80=99re both full of trash programs that hold zero interest and =
I can=E2=80=99t be bothered or motivated to learn how they work.
> Perhaps it=E2=80=99s better for me to once more return to the days of car=
bon paper, card index boxes and an abacus. At least I know how they work!
>=20
>=20
>>=20
>> But I am still here, and read the digest most days, for about 28 years.=
=C2=A0=20
>> During this time, I learned so much from all of you, and early on develo=
ped friends who helped me immensely. They shared parts, knowledge, and tool=
s.
>> Without you guys and Mark's early computer skills,=C2=A0 all would have =
been lost.
>>=20
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dity for Mr. Z.&nbsp; My wife recently decided to delete her account and gu=
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                <div><div dir=3D"ltr">29 years.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
=3D"none">Cliff<br clear=3D"none">1966 TR4A<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"=
none">Sent from my iPhone<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">&gt; On Dec =
14, 2025, at 9:09=E2=80=AFAM, John Macartney &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">johnbmaca=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt;=
 =EF=BB=BFJust out of casual interest, how many are still here in compariso=
n to say the Millenium? I suspect not many.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; I know B=
ookFace has many adherents and I was on it for a while until I seemingly up=
set its algorithms by saying something they/it didn=E2=80=99t like and Book=
Face has informed me more than once when I try to rejoin that I=E2=80=99m b=
anned for life. Okay Zuckerberg, I=E2=80=99m not in sympathy with your poli=
tical inclinations anyway and I certainly got sick of receiving stuff your =
algorithms were convinced I=E2=80=99d like, when the reality was they bored=
 me witless. I=E2=80=99ve been a reluctant subscriber to The Triumph Experi=
ence for a couple of years which also doesn=E2=80=99t grab me. It=E2=80=99s=
 too Standard-Triumph model specific, people get upset when they accidental=
ly post to the wrong forum and there has been some disquieting and very dis=
courteous responses and no one seems to be particularly helpful. Mark=E2=80=
=99s monthly reminders tell me I=E2=80=99m logged to 6 Pack but I never get=
 six pack stuff coming my way and even with the correct password, I can=E2=
=80=99t access it.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; The reality (for me) is that tech=
 is going too fast for me to keep up with it and I refuse to spend any day =
of my surely now limited life transfixed by my smartphone screen that 99% o=
f the rest of the world seems happy to do. I=E2=80=99m not enamoured by eit=
her my former iPhone or current Samsung as they=E2=80=99re both full of tra=
sh programs that hold zero interest and I can=E2=80=99t be bothered or moti=
vated to learn how they work.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Perhaps it=E2=80=99s b=
etter for me to once more return to the days of carbon paper, card index bo=
xes and an abacus. At least I know how they work!<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <b=
r clear=3D"none">&gt; Jonmac<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt;=
&gt; On 12 Dec 2025, at 21:10, Will Daehler &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">will.daehl=
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till here, and read the digest most days, for about 28 years.&nbsp; <br cle=
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nd early on developed friends who helped me immensely. They shared parts, k=
nowledge, and tools.<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; Without you guys and Mark's=
 early computer skills,&nbsp; all would have been lost.<br clear=3D"none">&=
gt;&gt; Recently we have sort of re-assmbled on various Facebook sites.<br =
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From: Larry Griffin <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2025 16:40:35 -0500

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30 years! I've been on the British-Cars, Spitfire, and Triumph lists since
1995. Many thanks to MJB for keeping these lists functioning for all this
time.

I always enjoy any emails from the lists.

Jonmac, your posts are special for your history and knowledge of our cars
as well as your wordmanship.  Please keep them coming :-)

Thanks,
Larry Griffin
70 TR6
73 TR6

On Sat, Dec 13, 2025 at 5:23=E2=80=AFPM John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gmx.=
com>
wrote:

> I know BookFace has many adherents and I was on it for a while until I
> seemingly upset its algorithms by saying something they/it didn=E2=80=99t=
 like and
> BookFace has informed me more than once when I try to rejoin that I=E2=80=
=99m
> banned for life. Okay Zuckerberg, I=E2=80=99m not in sympathy with your p=
olitical
> inclinations anyway and I certainly got sick of receiving stuff your
> algorithms were convinced I=E2=80=99d like, when the reality was they bor=
ed me
> witless. I=E2=80=99ve been a reluctant subscriber to The Triumph Experien=
ce for a
> couple of years which also doesn=E2=80=99t grab me. It=E2=80=99s too Stan=
dard-Triumph model
> specific, people get upset when they accidentally post to the wrong forum
> and there has been some disquieting and very discourteous responses and n=
o
> one seems to be particularly helpful. Mark=E2=80=99s monthly reminders te=
ll me I=E2=80=99m
> logged to 6 Pack but I never get six pack stuff coming my way and even wi=
th
> the correct password, I can=E2=80=99t access it.
h
> it and I refuse to spend any day of my surely now limited life transfixed
> by my smartphone screen that 99% of the rest of the world seems happy to
> do. I=E2=80=99m not enamoured by either my former iPhone or current Samsu=
ng as
> they=E2=80=99re both full of trash programs that hold zero interest and I=
 can=E2=80=99t be
> bothered or motivated to learn how they work.
bon
> paper, card index boxes and an abacus. At least I know how they work!
>
> Jonmac
>
> > During this time, I learned so much from all of you, and early on
> developed friends who helped me immensely. They shared parts, knowledge,
> and tools.
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/[email-masked]
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sa=
ns-serif;font-size:small">30 years! I&#39;ve been on the British-Cars, Spit=
fire, and Triumph lists since 1995. Many thanks to MJB for keeping these li=
sts functioning for all this time.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">I=
 always enjoy any emails from the lists.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div=
 class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:sm=
all">Jonmac, your posts are special for your history and knowledge of our c=
ars as well as your wordmanship.=C2=A0 Please keep them coming :-)</div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:s=
mall"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,san=
s-serif;font-size:small">Thanks,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Larry Griffin</div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">=
70 TR6</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-se=
rif;font-size:small">73 TR6</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Dec 13, 2025 at=
 5:23=E2=80=AFPM John Macartney &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1p=
x solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Just out of casual interest, how=
 many are still here in comparison to say the Millenium? I suspect not many=
.<br>
I know BookFace has many adherents and I was on it for a while until I seem=
ingly upset its algorithms by saying something they/it didn=E2=80=99t like =
and BookFace has informed me more than once when I try to rejoin that I=E2=
=80=99m banned for life. Okay Zuckerberg, I=E2=80=99m not in sympathy with =
your political inclinations anyway and I certainly got sick of receiving st=
uff your algorithms were convinced I=E2=80=99d like, when the reality was t=
hey bored me witless. I=E2=80=99ve been a reluctant subscriber to The Trium=
ph Experience for a couple of years which also doesn=E2=80=99t grab me. It=
=E2=80=99s too Standard-Triumph model specific, people get upset when they =
accidentally post to the wrong forum and there has been some disquieting an=
d very discourteous responses and no one seems to be particularly helpful. =
Mark=E2=80=99s monthly reminders tell me I=E2=80=99m logged to 6 Pack but I=
 never get six pack stuff coming my way and even with the correct password,=
 I can=E2=80=99t access it.<br>
The reality (for me) is that tech is going too fast for me to keep up with =
it and I refuse to spend any day of my surely now limited life transfixed b=
y my smartphone screen that 99% of the rest of the world seems happy to do.=
 I=E2=80=99m not enamoured by either my former iPhone or current Samsung as=
 they=E2=80=99re both full of trash programs that hold zero interest and I =
can=E2=80=99t be bothered or motivated to learn how they work.<br>
Perhaps it=E2=80=99s better for me to once more return to the days of carbo=
n paper, card index boxes and an abacus. At least I know how they work!<br>
<br>
Jonmac<br>
<br>
&gt; On 12 Dec 2025, at 21:10, Will Daehler &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:will.daeh=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Certainly the volume is down.<br>
&gt; But I am still here, and read the digest most days, for about 28 years=
.=C2=A0 <br>
&gt; During this time, I learned so much from all of you, and early on deve=
loped friends who helped me immensely. They shared parts, knowledge, and to=
ols.<br>
&gt; Without you guys and Mark&#39;s early computer skills,=C2=A0 all would=
 have been lost. <br>
&gt; Recently we have sort of re-assmbled on various Facebook sites.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Will Daehler <br>
&gt; 63 TR4<br>
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Been here since around 1987, when I purchased my 74 TR6 and was early in my=
 working career.Retired and moved from Maryland to Hilton Head SC recently =
and the car camewith me.

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=20
 Just out of casual interest, how many are still here in comparison to say =
the Millenium? I suspect not many.
I know BookFace has many adherents and I was on it for a while until I seem=
ingly upset its algorithms by saying something they/it didn=E2=80=99t like =
and BookFace has informed me more than once when I try to rejoin that I=E2=
=80=99m banned for life. Okay Zuckerberg, I=E2=80=99m not in sympathy with =
your political inclinations anyway and I certainly got sick of receiving st=
uff your algorithms were convinced I=E2=80=99d like, when the reality was t=
hey bored me witless. I=E2=80=99ve been a reluctant subscriber to The Trium=
ph Experience for a couple of years which also doesn=E2=80=99t grab me. It=
=E2=80=99s too Standard-Triumph model specific, people get upset when they =
accidentally post to the wrong forum and there has been some disquieting an=
d very discourteous responses and no one seems to be particularly helpful. =
Mark=E2=80=99s monthly reminders tell me I=E2=80=99m logged to 6 Pack but I=
 never get six pack stuff coming my way and even with the correct password,=
 I can=E2=80=99t access it.
The reality (for me) is that tech is going too fast for me to keep up with =
it and I refuse to spend any day of my surely now limited life transfixed b=
y my smartphone screen that 99% of the rest of the world seems happy to do.=
 I=E2=80=99m not enamoured by either my former iPhone or current Samsung as=
 they=E2=80=99re both full of trash programs that hold zero interest and I =
can=E2=80=99t be bothered or motivated to learn how they work.
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Jonmac

=C2=A0=20
> During this time, I learned so much from all of you, and early on develop=
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> Without you guys and Mark's early computer skills,=C2=A0 all would have b=
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or a while until I seemingly upset its algorithms by saying something they/=
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 not in sympathy with your political inclinations anyway and I certainly go=
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particularly helpful. Mark=E2=80=99s monthly reminders tell me I=E2=80=99m =
logged to 6 Pack but I never get six pack stuff coming my way and even with=
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by my smartphone screen that 99% of the rest of the world seems happy to do=
. I=E2=80=99m not enamoured by either my former iPhone or current Samsung a=
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iv dir=3D"ltr">Perhaps it=E2=80=99s better for me to once more return to th=
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ing this time, I learned so much from all of you, and early on developed fr=
iends who helped me immensely. They shared parts, knowledge, and tools.<br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Without you guys and Mark's early computer skil=
ls,&nbsp; all would have been lost. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Recentl=
y we have sort of re-assmbled on various Facebook sites.<br></div><div dir=
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2025 09:11:05 -0500

Don't forget a Rolodex. Ted

On 12/13/2025 5:10 PM, John Macartney wrote:
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I keep this on my desk in my father's memory

-------- Original message --------
From: Ted Schumacher <[email-masked]>
Date: 12/15/25 8:50 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] The List is Less Busy These Days

On 12/13/2025 5:10 PM, John Macartney wrote:
> Just out of casual interest, how many are still here in comparison to say=
> I know BookFace has many adherents and I was on it for a while until I se=
emingly upset its algorithms by saying something they/it didn=92t like and =
BookFace has informed me more than once when I try to rejoin that I=92m ban=
ned for life. Okay Zuckerberg, I=92m not in sympathy with your political in=
clinations anyway and I certainly got sick of receiving stuff your algorith=
ms were convinced I=92d like, when the reality was they bored me witless. I=
=92ve been a reluctant subscriber to The Triumph Experience for a couple of=
 years which also doesn=92t grab me. It=92s too Standard-Triumph model spec=
ific, people get upset when they accidentally post to the wrong forum and t=
here has been some disquieting and very discourteous responses and no one s=
eems to be particularly helpful. Mark=92s monthly reminders tell me I=92m l=
ogged to 6 Pack but I never get six pack stuff coming my way and even with =
the correct password, I can=92t access it.
h it and I refuse to spend any day of my surely now limited life transfixed=
 by my smartphone screen that 99% of the rest of the world seems happy to d=
o. I=92m not enamoured by either my former iPhone or current Samsung as the=
y=92re both full of trash programs that hold zero interest and I can=92t be=
 bothered or motivated to learn how they work.
> Perhaps it=92s better for me to once more return to the days of carbon pa=
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>> Without you guys and Mark's early computer skills,  all would have been =
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On 12/13/2025 5:10 PM, John Macartney wrote:<br>
&gt; Just out of casual interest, how many are still here in comparison to =
say the Millenium? I suspect not many.<br>
&gt; I know BookFace has many adherents and I was on it for a while until I=
 seemingly upset its algorithms by saying something they/it didn=92t like a=
nd BookFace has informed me more than once when I try to rejoin that I=92m =
banned for life. Okay Zuckerberg, I=92m not
 in sympathy with your political inclinations anyway and I certainly got si=
ck of receiving stuff your algorithms were convinced I=92d like, when the r=
eality was they bored me witless. I=92ve been a reluctant subscriber to The=
 Triumph Experience for a couple of
 years which also doesn=92t grab me. It=92s too Standard-Triumph model spec=
ific, people get upset when they accidentally post to the wrong forum and t=
here has been some disquieting and very discourteous responses and no one s=
eems to be particularly helpful. Mark=92s
 monthly reminders tell me I=92m logged to 6 Pack but I never get six pack =
stuff coming my way and even with the correct password, I can=92t access it=
.<br>
&gt; The reality (for me) is that tech is going too fast for me to keep up =
with it and I refuse to spend any day of my surely now limited life transfi=
xed by my smartphone screen that 99% of the rest of the world seems happy t=
o do. I=92m not enamoured by either my
 former iPhone or current Samsung as they=92re both full of trash programs =
that hold zero interest and I can=92t be bothered or motivated to learn how=
 they work.<br>
&gt; Perhaps it=92s better for me to once more return to the days of carbon=
 paper, card index boxes and an abacus. At least I know how they work!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Jonmac<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On 12 Dec 2025, at 21:10, Will Daehler &lt;[email-masked]&=
gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Certainly the volume is down.<br>
&gt;&gt; But I am still here, and read the digest most days, for about 28 y=
ears.<br>
&gt;&gt; During this time, I learned so much from all of you, and early on =
developed friends who helped me immensely. They shared parts, knowledge, an=
d tools.<br>
&gt;&gt; Without you guys and Mark's early computer skills,&nbsp; all would=
 have been lost.<br>
&gt;&gt; Recently we have sort of re-assmbled on various Facebook sites.<br=
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Will Daehler<br>
&gt;&gt; 63 TR4<br>
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Alas, t'is true.=C2=A0 Back in the day this was a dynamic list with many fo=
lks contributing on a regular basis.=C2=A0 Even when I didn't have a partic=
ular issue I found the reading most enjoyable and informative.=C2=A0 In fac=
t I cached quite a few nuggets of wisdom in a text file to which I refer on=
 a semi-regular basis.=C2=A0=C2=A0
But traffic is much lighter these days and probably for the reasons cited -=
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  I have to thank Mark for keeping the Autox lists alive. Probably made 
far too few contributions. Over the past 20+ years my manual library has 
grown to the point where the shelves are sagging and usually only

come to he lists for installation or good parts choices.. Those Boomers 
among us have a reluctance to use the internet for automotive info, I 
was one until I discovered AI for medical information. Well, let me tell you

AI is great for automotive information. I suspect it may even make 
Mark's lists redundant.. I know Blasphemous.. Let's face it, we're being 
swept into this new tech age without regard to historic precedence. Sadly

Try it?? Chat gpt.com  is what I use usually. Nothing ventured, nothing 
gained.. DaveP  ps Have an TR4 basket case arriving this week.. fun 
ahead.  Merry Christmas all

On 12/16/2025 6:14 AM, DAVID MASSEY wrote:
> On Saturday, December 13, 2025 at 04:39:10 PM CST, John Macartney 
> <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> <<Just out of casual interest, how many are still here in comparison 
> to say the Millenium? I suspect not many.>>
>
> Alas, t'is true.  Back in the day this was a dynamic list with many 
> folks contributing on a regular basis.  Even when I didn't have a 
> particular issue I found the reading most enjoyable and informative.  
> In fact I cached quite a few nuggets of wisdom in a text file to which 
> I refer on a semi-regular basis.
>
> But traffic is much lighter these days and probably for the reasons 
> cited - FaceCrook, aging out and maybe some folks like me have pretty 
> much finish the major overhauls and are in maintenance mode and are 
> dealing with issue less frequently and also issues with which we are 
> already familiar.
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> Dave
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    <p> I have to thank Mark for keeping the Autox lists alive. Probably
      made far too few contributions. Over the past 20+ years my manual
      library has grown to the point where the shelves are sagging and
      usually only</p>
    <p>come to he lists for installation or good parts choices.. Those
      Boomers among us have a reluctance to use the internet for
      automotive info, I was one until I discovered AI for medical
      information. Well, let me tell you</p>
    <p>AI is great for automotive information. I suspect it may even
      make Mark's lists redundant.. I know Blasphemous.. Let's face it,
      we're being swept into this new tech age without regard to
      historic precedence. Sadly</p>
    <p>Try it?? Chat gpt.com  is what I use usually. Nothing ventured,
      nothing gained.. DaveP  ps Have an TR4 basket case arriving this
      week.. fun ahead.  Merry Christmas all</p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/16/2025 6:14 AM, DAVID MASSEY
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style="color: rgb(38, 40, 42); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; letter-spacing: -0.32px;">Alas,
                t'is true.  Back in the day this was a dynamic list with
                many folks contributing on a regular basis.  Even when I
                didn't have a particular issue I found the reading most
                enjoyable and informative.  In fact I cached quite a few
                nuggets of wisdom in a text file to which I refer on a
                semi-regular basis.  </span></span></div>
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style="color: rgb(38, 40, 42); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; letter-spacing: -0.32px;">But
                traffic is much lighter these days and probably for the
                reasons cited - FaceCrook, aging out and maybe some
                folks like me have pretty much finish the major
                overhauls and are in maintenance mode and are dealing
                with issue less frequently and also issues with which we
                are already familiar.</span></span></div>
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 im no milenium but my TR3 is sought after by my son.=C2=A0i had bought the=
 car as a project when he was just 16.at that age no one over the age of 18=
 is cool. and i had found our relationship was the same as i had with my da=
d at that age. lacking but still loving.my sone was just ready to get his f=
irst driving licence and had shown good mechanical skills.so together we bu=
ild a near frame off restoration.and it brought us very close as we bled, c=
used and i introduced him to beer.to this day he loves the car and has conf=
irmed to the family that the car will pass to him upon my demise.i also own=
 a 1956 bel air that he likes but does not share the love he has for the TR=
.so at least one TR3 will survive for many more years.
the list has gotten me many friends and helped solve many problems.with the=
 car fininshed and running really well i rarely have need to ask the list f=
or help.but its still my favourite mail
Frankas scouser in californiaTS41366L

    On Saturday, December 13, 2025 at 10:39:41 PM PST, John Macartney <john=

Jonmac

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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">im no milenium but my TR3 is=
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i had bought the car as a project when he was just 16.</div><div dir=3D"ltr=
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i had found our relationship was the same as i had with my dad at that age.=
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one was just ready to get his first driving licence and had shown good mech=
anical skills.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">so together we b=
uild a near frame off restoration.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fal=
se">and it brought us very close as we bled, cused and i introduced him to =
beer.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">to this day he loves the =
car and has confirmed to the family that the car will pass to him upon my d=
emise.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">i also own a 1956 bel ai=
r that he likes but does not share the love he has for the TR.</div><div di=
r=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">so at least one TR3 will survive for many m=
ore years.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=
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ed solve many problems.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">with th=
e car fininshed and running really well i rarely have need to ask the list =
for help.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">but its still my favo=
urite mail</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=
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                <div><div dir=3D"ltr">Just out of casual interest, how many=
 are still here in comparison to say the Millenium? I suspect not many.<br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">I know BookFace has many adherents and I was on it f=
or a while until I seemingly upset its algorithms by saying something they/=
it didn=E2=80=99t like and BookFace has informed me more than once when I t=
ry to rejoin that I=E2=80=99m banned for life. Okay Zuckerberg, I=E2=80=99m=
 not in sympathy with your political inclinations anyway and I certainly go=
t sick of receiving stuff your algorithms were convinced I=E2=80=99d like, =
when the reality was they bored me witless. I=E2=80=99ve been a reluctant s=
ubscriber to The Triumph Experience for a couple of years which also doesn=
=E2=80=99t grab me. It=E2=80=99s too Standard-Triumph model specific, peopl=
e get upset when they accidentally post to the wrong forum and there has be=
en some disquieting and very discourteous responses and no one seems to be =
particularly helpful. Mark=E2=80=99s monthly reminders tell me I=E2=80=99m =
logged to 6 Pack but I never get six pack stuff coming my way and even with=
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I bought our TR6 26 years ago when my son was 11.  He learned to wrench on =
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 a BMW person

-------- Original message --------
From: Frank Fisher <[email-masked]>
Date: 12/26/25 12:30 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: Will Daehler <[email-masked]>, John Macartney <johnbmacartney@g=
mx.com>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] The List is Less Busy These Days

im no milenium but my TR3 is sought after by my son.
i had bought the car as a project when he was just 16.
at that age no one over the age of 18 is cool. and i had found our relation=
ship was the same as i had with my dad at that age. lacking but still lovin=
g.
my sone was just ready to get his first driving licence and had shown good =
mechanical skills.
so together we build a near frame off restoration.
and it brought us very close as we bled, cused and i introduced him to beer=
.
to this day he loves the car and has confirmed to the family that the car w=
ill pass to him upon my demise.
i also own a 1956 bel air that he likes but does not share the love he has =
for the TR.
so at least one TR3 will survive for many more years.

the list has gotten me many friends and helped solve many problems.
with the car fininshed and running really well i rarely have need to ask th=
e list for help.
but its still my favourite mail

Frank
as scouser in california
TS41366L

On Saturday, December 13, 2025 at 10:39:41 PM PST, John Macartney <johnbmac=
[email-masked]> wrote:

Just out of casual interest, how many are still here in comparison to say t=
he Millenium? I suspect not many.
I know BookFace has many adherents and I was on it for a while until I seem=
ingly upset its algorithms by saying something they/it didn=92t like and Bo=
okFace has informed me more than once when I try to rejoin that I=92m banne=
d for life. Okay Zuckerberg, I=92m not in sympathy with your political incl=
inations anyway and I certainly got sick of receiving stuff your algorithms=
 were convinced I=92d like, when the reality was they bored me witless. I=
=92ve been a reluctant subscriber to The Triumph Experience for a couple of=
 years which also doesn=92t grab me. It=92s too Standard-Triumph model spec=
ific, people get upset when they accidentally post to the wrong forum and t=
here has been some disquieting and very discourteous responses and no one s=
eems to be particularly helpful. Mark=92s monthly reminders tell me I=92m l=
ogged to 6 Pack but I never get six pack stuff coming my way and even with =
the correct password, I can=92t access it.
The reality (for me) is that tech is going too fast for me to keep up with =
it and I refuse to spend any day of my surely now limited life transfixed b=
y my smartphone screen that 99% of the rest of the world seems happy to do.=
 I=92m not enamoured by either my former iPhone or current Samsung as they=
=92re both full of trash programs that hold zero interest and I can=92t be =
bothered or motivated to learn how they work.
Perhaps it=92s better for me to once more return to the days of carbon pape=
r, card index boxes and an abacus. At least I know how they work!

Jonmac

> Without you guys and Mark's early computer skills,  all would have been l=
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I bought our TR6 26 years ago when my son was 11.&nbsp; He learned to wrenc=
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 really more of a BMW person
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<div>From: Frank Fisher &lt;[email-masked]&gt; </div>
<div>Date: 12/26/25 12:30 PM (GMT-06:00) </div>
<div>To: Will Daehler &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, John Macartney &lt;jo=
[email-masked]&gt;
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<div>Cc: [email-masked] </div>
<div>Subject: Re: [TR] The List is Less Busy These Days </div>
<div><br>
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eue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size:16px">
<div></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">im no milenium but my TR3 is sought after by my son.&nbsp;=
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">i had bought the car as a project when he was just 16.</di=
v>
<div dir=3D"ltr">at that age no one over the age of 18 is cool. and i had f=
ound our relationship was the same as i had with my dad at that age. lackin=
g but still loving.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">my sone was just ready to get his first driving licence an=
d had shown good mechanical skills.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">so together we build a near frame off restoration.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">and it brought us very close as we bled, cused and i intro=
duced him to beer.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">to this day he loves the car and has confirmed to the fami=
ly that the car will pass to him upon my demise.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">i also own a 1956 bel air that he likes but does not share=
 the love he has for the TR.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">so at least one TR3 will survive for many more years.</div=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">the list has gotten me many friends and helped solve many =
problems.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">with the car fininshed and running really well i rarely ha=
ve need to ask the list for help.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">but its still my favourite mail</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Frank</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">as scouser in california</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">TS41366L</div>
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<div>On Saturday, December 13, 2025 at 10:39:41 PM PST, John Macartney &lt;=
[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Just out of casual interest, how many are still here in co=
mparison to say the Millenium? I suspect not many.<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I know BookFace has many adherents and I was on it for a w=
hile until I seemingly upset its algorithms by saying something they/it did=
n=92t like and BookFace has informed me more than once when I try to rejoin=
 that I=92m banned for life. Okay Zuckerberg,
 I=92m not in sympathy with your political inclinations anyway and I certai=
nly got sick of receiving stuff your algorithms were convinced I=92d like, =
when the reality was they bored me witless. I=92ve been a reluctant subscri=
ber to The Triumph Experience for a couple
 of years which also doesn=92t grab me. It=92s too Standard-Triumph model s=
pecific, people get upset when they accidentally post to the wrong forum an=
d there has been some disquieting and very discourteous responses and no on=
e seems to be particularly helpful.
 Mark=92s monthly reminders tell me I=92m logged to 6 Pack but I never get =
six pack stuff coming my way and even with the correct password, I can=92t =
access it.<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">The reality (for me) is that tech is going too fast for me=
 to keep up with it and I refuse to spend any day of my surely now limited =
life transfixed by my smartphone screen that 99% of the rest of the world s=
eems happy to do. I=92m not enamoured
 by either my former iPhone or current Samsung as they=92re both full of tr=
ash programs that hold zero interest and I can=92t be bothered or motivated=
 to learn how they work.<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Perhaps it=92s better for me to once more return to the da=
ys of carbon paper, card index boxes and an abacus. At least I know how the=
y work!<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Jonmac<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; On 12 Dec 2025, at 21:10, Will Daehler &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">will.dae=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Certainly the volume is down.<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; But I am still here, and read the digest most days, f=
or about 28 years.&nbsp;
<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; During this time, I learned so much from all of you, =
and early on developed friends who helped me immensely. They shared parts, =
knowledge, and tools.<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Without you guys and Mark's early computer skills,&nb=
sp; all would have been lost.
<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Recently we have sort of re-assmbled on various Faceb=
ook sites.<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Will Daehler <br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; 63 TR4<br>
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From: David P <[email-masked]> (ame7.swcp.com [216.184.2.128]); Fri, 26 Dec 2025 12:01:08 -0700 (MST) SPF_PASS version=4.0.0
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I had an ex-Healey racer's widow drive me to dinner yesterday. The 
subject of BMW's came up..(her car). She thought that BMW meant British 
Motor Works... she was crushed to learn it was Bavarian...

On 12/26/2025 11:35 AM, dave northrup wrote:
> I bought our TR6 26 years ago when my son was 11.  He learned to 
> wrench on that thing,  and its still his favorite car,  although he is 
> To: Will Daehler <[email-masked]>, John Macartney 
> <[email-masked]>
> at that age no one over the age of 18 is cool. and i had found our 
> relationship was the same as i had with my dad at that age. lacking 
> but still loving.
> my sone was just ready to get his first driving licence and had shown 
> good mechanical skills.
> and it brought us very close as we bled, cused and i introduced him to 
> beer.
> to this day he loves the car and has confirmed to the family that the 
> car will pass to him upon my demise.
> i also own a 1956 bel air that he likes but does not share the love he 
> has for the TR.
> with the car fininshed and running really well i rarely have need to 
> ask the list for help.
> On Saturday, December 13, 2025 at 10:39:41 PM PST, John Macartney 
> seemingly upset its algorithms by saying something they/it didn’t like 
> and BookFace has informed me more than once when I try to rejoin that 
> I’m banned for life. Okay Zuckerberg, I’m not in sympathy with your 
> political inclinations anyway and I certainly got sick of receiving 
> stuff your algorithms were convinced I’d like, when the reality was 
> they bored me witless. I’ve been a reluctant subscriber to The Triumph 
> Experience for a couple of years which also doesn’t grab me. It’s too 
> Standard-Triumph model specific, people get upset when they 
> accidentally post to the wrong forum and there has been some 
> disquieting and very discourteous responses and no one seems to be 
> particularly helpful. Mark’s monthly reminders tell me I’m logged to 6 
> Pack but I never get six pack stuff coming my way and even with the 
> correct password, I can’t access it.
> The reality (for me) is that tech is going too fast for me to keep up 
> with it and I refuse to spend any day of my surely now limited life 
> transfixed by my smartphone screen that 99% of the rest of the world 
> seems happy to do. I’m not enamoured by either my former iPhone or 
> current Samsung as they’re both full of trash programs that hold zero 
> interest and I can’t be bothered or motivated to learn how they work.
> Perhaps it’s better for me to once more return to the days of carbon 
> developed friends who helped me immensely. They shared parts, 
> knowledge, and tools.
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/[email-masked]
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    <p>I had an ex-Healey racer's widow drive me to dinner yesterday.
      The subject of BMW's came up..(her car). She thought that BMW
      meant British Motor Works... she was crushed to learn it was
      Bavarian...</p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/26/2025 11:35 AM, dave northrup
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:[email-masked]">
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      I bought our TR6 26 years ago when my son was 11.  He learned to
      wrench on that thing,  and its still his favorite car,  although
      he is really more of a BMW person
      <div><br>
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      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>-------- Original message --------</div>
      <div>From: Frank Fisher <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> </div>
      <div>Date: 12/26/25 12:30 PM (GMT-06:00) </div>
      <div>To: Will Daehler <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>, John
        Macartney <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>
      </div>
      <div>Cc: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> </div>
      <div>Subject: Re: [TR] The List is Less Busy These Days </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>
        <div class="ydpbc59b2afyahoo-style-wrap"
style="font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size:16px">
          <div dir="ltr">im no milenium but my TR3 is sought after by my
            son. </div>
          <div dir="ltr">i had bought the car as a project when he was
            just 16.</div>
          <div dir="ltr">at that age no one over the age of 18 is cool.
            and i had found our relationship was the same as i had with
            my dad at that age. lacking but still loving.</div>
          <div dir="ltr">my sone was just ready to get his first driving
            licence and had shown good mechanical skills.</div>
          <div dir="ltr">so together we build a near frame off
            restoration.</div>
          <div dir="ltr">and it brought us very close as we bled, cused
            and i introduced him to beer.</div>
          <div dir="ltr">to this day he loves the car and has confirmed
            to the family that the car will pass to him upon my demise.</div>
          <div dir="ltr">i also own a 1956 bel air that he likes but
            does not share the love he has for the TR.</div>
          <div dir="ltr">so at least one TR3 will survive for many more
            years.</div>
          <div dir="ltr"><br>
          </div>
          <div dir="ltr">the list has gotten me many friends and helped
            solve many problems.</div>
          <div dir="ltr">with the car fininshed and running really well
            i rarely have need to ask the list for help.</div>
          <div dir="ltr">but its still my favourite mail</div>
          <div dir="ltr"><br>
          </div>
          <div dir="ltr">Frank</div>
          <div dir="ltr">as scouser in california</div>
          <div dir="ltr">TS41366L</div>
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            <div>On Saturday, December 13, 2025 at 10:39:41 PM PST, John
              Macartney <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> wrote:
            </div>
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            <div>
              <div dir="ltr">Just out of casual interest, how many are
                still here in comparison to say the Millenium? I suspect
                not many.<br>
              </div>
              <div dir="ltr">I know BookFace has many adherents and I
                was on it for a while until I seemingly upset its
                algorithms by saying something they/it didn’t like and
                BookFace has informed me more than once when I try to
                rejoin that I’m banned for life. Okay Zuckerberg, I’m
                not in sympathy with your political inclinations anyway
                and I certainly got sick of receiving stuff your
                algorithms were convinced I’d like, when the reality was
                they bored me witless. I’ve been a reluctant subscriber
                to The Triumph Experience for a couple of years which
                also doesn’t grab me. It’s too Standard-Triumph model
                specific, people get upset when they accidentally post
                to the wrong forum and there has been some disquieting
                and very discourteous responses and no one seems to be
                particularly helpful. Mark’s monthly reminders tell me
                I’m logged to 6 Pack but I never get six pack stuff
                coming my way and even with the correct password, I
                can’t access it.<br>
              </div>
              <div dir="ltr">The reality (for me) is that tech is going
                too fast for me to keep up with it and I refuse to spend
                any day of my surely now limited life transfixed by my
                smartphone screen that 99% of the rest of the world
                seems happy to do. I’m not enamoured by either my former
                iPhone or current Samsung as they’re both full of trash
                programs that hold zero interest and I can’t be bothered
                or motivated to learn how they work.<br>
              </div>
              <div dir="ltr">Perhaps it’s better for me to once more
                return to the days of carbon paper, card index boxes and
                an abacus. At least I know how they work!<br>
              </div>
              <div dir="ltr"><br>
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              <div dir="ltr">Jonmac<br>
              </div>
              <div dir="ltr"><br>
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              <div dir="ltr">&gt; On 12 Dec 2025, at 21:10, Will Daehler
                &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                  rel="nofollow" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                  class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                wrote:<br>
              </div>
              <div dir="ltr">&gt; <br>
              </div>
              <div dir="ltr">&gt; Certainly the volume is down.<br>
              </div>
              <div dir="ltr">&gt; But I am still here, and read the
                digest most days, for about 28 years. 
                <br>
              </div>
              <div dir="ltr">&gt; During this time, I learned so much
                from all of you, and early on developed friends who
                helped me immensely. They shared parts, knowledge, and
                tools.<br>
              </div>
              <div dir="ltr">&gt; Without you guys and Mark's early
                computer skills,  all would have been lost.
                <br>
              </div>
              <div dir="ltr">&gt; Recently we have sort of re-assmbled
                on various Facebook sites.<br>
              </div>
              <div dir="ltr">&gt; <br>
              </div>
              <div dir="ltr">&gt; Will Daehler <br>
              </div>
              <div dir="ltr">&gt; 63 TR4<br>
              </div>
              <div dir="ltr"><br>
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