Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 18, Issue 165

From: Odd Hedberg <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2025 12:12:15 +0100

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I'm still here John,
and _not_ on any of the newfangled 'social' media...  🙂
Cheers,
/Odd

On 2025-12-14 at 19:42 [email-masked] wrote:
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> Just out of casual interest, how many are still here in comparison to say the Millenium?
> I suspect not many.  I know BookFace has many adherents and I was on it for a while until
> I seemingly upset its algorithms by saying something they/it didn?t like and BookFace has
> informed me more than once when I try to rejoin that I?m banned for life. Okay Zuckerberg,
> I?m not in sympathy with your political inclinations anyway and I certainly got sick of
> receiving stuff your algorithms were convinced I?d like, when the reality was they bored
> me witless. I?ve been a reluctant subscriber to The Triumph Experience for a couple of
> years which also doesn?t grab me. It?s too Standard-Triumph model specific, people get
> upset when they accidentally post to the wrong forum and there has been some disquieting
> and very discourteous responses and no one seems to be particularly helpful. Mark?s monthly
> reminders tell me I?m logged to 6 Pack but I never get six pack stuff coming my way and
> even with the correct password, I can?t access it.
> The reality (for me) is that tech is going too fast for me to keep up with it and I refuse
> to spend any day of my surely now limited life transfixed by my smartphone screen that 99%
> of the rest of the world seems happy to do. I?m not enamoured by either my former iPhone
> or current Samsung as they?re both full of trash programs that hold zero interest and I
> can?t be bothered or motivated to learn how they work.
> Perhaps it?s better for me to once more return to the days of carbon paper, card index
> boxes and an abacus. At least I know how they work!
>
> Jonmac
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      <p>I'm still here John, <br>
        and <u>not</u> on any of the newfangled 'social' media...  🙂<br>
        Cheers, <br>
        /Odd <br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2025-12-14 at 19:42 <a
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Just out of casual interest, how many are still here in comparison to say the Millenium? 
I suspect not many.  I know BookFace has many adherents and I was on it for a while until 
I seemingly upset its algorithms by saying something they/it didn?t like and BookFace has 
informed me more than once when I try to rejoin that I?m banned for life. Okay Zuckerberg, 
I?m not in sympathy with your political inclinations anyway and I certainly got sick of 
receiving stuff your algorithms were convinced I?d like, when the reality was they bored 
me witless. I?ve been a reluctant subscriber to The Triumph Experience for a couple of 
years which also doesn?t grab me. It?s too Standard-Triumph model specific, people get 
upset when they accidentally post to the wrong forum and there has been some disquieting 
and very discourteous responses and no one seems to be particularly helpful. Mark?s monthly 
reminders tell me I?m logged to 6 Pack but I never get six pack stuff coming my way and 
even with the correct password, I can?t access it.
The reality (for me) is that tech is going too fast for me to keep up with it and I refuse 
to spend any day of my surely now limited life transfixed by my smartphone screen that 99% 
of the rest of the world seems happy to do. I?m not enamoured by either my former iPhone 
or current Samsung as they?re both full of trash programs that hold zero interest and I 
can?t be bothered or motivated to learn how they work.
Perhaps it?s better for me to once more return to the days of carbon paper, card index 
boxes and an abacus. At least I know how they work!

Jonmac

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From: John Macartney <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2025 21:29:47 +0000

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Hi, Odd,

Thank goodness you=E2=80=99re still with us and not having migrated to a tot=
ally cyber environment.

Happy Christmas

John

> On 16 Dec 2025, at 11:12, Odd Hedberg <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> I'm still here John,=20
> and not on any of the newfangled 'social' media...  =F0=9F=99=82
> Cheers,=20
> /Odd=20
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>> Just out of casual interest, how many are still here in comparison to say=
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>> I seemingly upset its algorithms by saying something they/it didn?t like a=
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utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi,=
 Odd,</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thank goodness you=E2=
=80=99re still with us and not having migrated to a totally cyber environmen=
t.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Happy Christmas</div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">John</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On 16 Dec 2025, at 11:12, Odd Hedberg &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">

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      <p>I'm still here John,&nbsp;<br>
        and <u>not</u> on any of the newfangled 'social' media...&nbsp;&nbsp=
;=F0=9F=99=82<br>
        Cheers,&nbsp;<br>
        /Odd&nbsp;<br>
        <br>
      </p>
      <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 2025-12-14 at 19:42 <a class=3D"moz-=
txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"mailto:triumphs-request@=
autox.team.net" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">[email-masked]</a>=

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From: John Macartney <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:johnb=
[email-masked]" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</=
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Cc: <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">[email-masked]=
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Subject: Re: [TR] The List is Less Busy These Days
[email-masked]" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">&lt;D3BB3364-60FC-4=
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Just out of casual interest, how many are still here in comparison to say th=
e Millenium?=20
I suspect not many.  I know BookFace has many adherents and I was on it for a=
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I seemingly upset its algorithms by saying something they/it didn?t like and=
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informed me more than once when I try to rejoin that I?m banned for life. Ok=
ay Zuckerberg,=20
I?m not in sympathy with your political inclinations anyway and I certainly g=
ot sick of=20
receiving stuff your algorithms were convinced I?d like, when the reality wa=
s they bored=20
me witless. I?ve been a reluctant subscriber to The Triumph Experience for a=
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years which also doesn?t grab me. It?s too Standard-Triumph model specific, p=
eople get=20
upset when they accidentally post to the wrong forum and there has been some=
 disquieting=20
and very discourteous responses and no one seems to be particularly helpful.=
 Mark?s monthly=20
reminders tell me I?m logged to 6 Pack but I never get six pack stuff coming=
 my way and=20
even with the correct password, I can?t access it.
The reality (for me) is that tech is going too fast for me to keep up with i=
t and I refuse=20
to spend any day of my surely now limited life transfixed by my smartphone s=
creen that 99%=20
of the rest of the world seems happy to do. I?m not enamoured by either my f=
ormer iPhone=20
or current Samsung as they?re both full of trash programs that hold zero int=
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can?t be bothered or motivated to learn how they work.
Perhaps it?s better for me to once more return to the days of carbon paper, c=
ard index=20
boxes and an abacus. At least I know how they work!

Jonmac

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From: Hoyt Duff <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2025 20:42:05 -0500

Jonmac,

It is with sadness that I read your post. I too am an old guy, but at
the age of 72 have been able to keep up with the rapid advance in
technology, especially in social media. I know how to use it but
generally eschew its use because little of real depth occurs there.

There are many useful HOWTO videos on YouTube and much useful
information on the Internet if one uses the Google search function and
gets past all the AI crap on the first page. The downside is that the
WWW is now awash with advertising and since 99.9% of it is of no
interest to me, I find that browser add-ons like Ghostery, Adblock and
Privacy Badger are required to rid my life of that crap. I even found
it useful to pay for YouTube Premium to avoid most of their annoying
adverts.

Banned from FaceBook?
That takes some doing, so congratulations!! The simple fix is to
create a Gmail email account just to use on FB and when you log in,
tell them your birthday is in 1924 and don't provide any personal
information. There are dozens of Triumph-related pages (as well as
other British cars).

Don't avoid technology. It's pretty easy to use once you employ Google
searches to figure it out. I'm certain you have a wealth of knowledge
to share as well.

-- 
Hoyt