Subject: Re: [TR] Following on from yesterday...

From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2025 18:10:57 +0000 (UTC)

--===============6855746750250478585==
	boundary="----=_Part_3507032_1972276038.1766427057500"

------=_Part_3507032_1972276038.1766427057500
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yet another engaging treatise on the history of our cars.=C2=A0 As a divers=
ion I googled "Old Pig's Ear" and And did not find any reference to a Briti=
sh brewery serving "Old Pig's Ear" but there is a brewery in New Hampshire =
offering up "Pig's Ear Brown" which is an English style beer.=C2=A0 Sounds =
yummy.=C2=A0 I must check it out.=C2=A0=C2=A0
BTW Woodstock Brewery started brewing in 1995.=C2=A0 I wonder if this is th=
e same beer that found its way across the pond.
On another note, Green's Dictionary of Slang defines Pig's Ear as slang for=
 beer (possibly Cockney rhyming slang).=C2=A0 As in=C2=A0"I bunged down a t=
osheroon=C2=A0for two pigs=E2=80=99 ears."
Dave=20

=20

    On Monday, December 22, 2025 at 10:32:02 AM CST, AOL <johnbmacartney@gm=
x.com> wrote:  =20

 I've been clearing up my SSD today of junk and came across this attached a=
rticle I wrote about 12 years ago for a UK club. Coincidence really, becaus=
e it deals with the aftermath of an expired letter of credit which was hope=
fully explained to you yesterday.This one has pictures in it but you'll fin=
d them at the end with their captions=C2=A0Jonmac** [email-masked]=
 **

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs=C2=A0 http://www.team.net/a=
rchive

[email-masked]
 =20
------=_Part_3507032_1972276038.1766427057500
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydpebafaeceyahoo-style-wrap" style=
=3D"font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Yet another engaging treatise on the history=
 of our cars.&nbsp; As a diversion I googled "Old Pig's Ear" and And did no=
t find any reference to a British brewery serving "Old Pig's Ear" but there=
 is a brewery in New Hampshire offering up "Pig's Ear Brown" which is an En=
glish style beer.&nbsp; Sounds yummy.&nbsp; I must check it out.&nbsp;&nbsp=
;</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" da=
ta-setdir=3D"false">BTW Woodstock Brewery started brewing in 1995.&nbsp; I =
wonder if this is the same beer that found its way across the pond.</div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=
=3D"false">On another note, Green's Dictionary of Slang defines Pig's Ear a=
s slang for beer (possibly Cockney rhyming slang).&nbsp; As in&nbsp;</div><=
div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">"<span><span style=3D"color: rgb(68, =
68, 68); font-family: Libertine, serif; font-size: 14px; letter-spacing: no=
rmal;">I bunged down a tosheroon</span><span style=3D"color: rgb(68, 68, 68=
); font-family: Libertine, serif; font-size: 14px; letter-spacing: normal;"=
>&nbsp;for two pigs=E2=80=99 ears."</span></span></div><div><br></div><div =
class=3D"ydpebafaecesignature"><div style=3D"color: black; font-style: norm=
al; font-size-adjust: none; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font=
-size: 12pt; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif=
;"><div style=3D"color: black; font-style: normal; font-size-adjust: none; =
font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12pt; line-height: no=
rmal; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><div><font size=3D"4">Dav=
e <br></font></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-se=
rif;color:black;"><br></span></div><br></div></div></div></div>
        <div><br></div><div><br></div>
       =20
        </div><div id=3D"ydpe775fcfyahoo_quoted_6550229885" class=3D"ydpe77=
5fcfyahoo_quoted"><div class=3D"ydpe775fcfyahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-f=
amily:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">
            <div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, s=
ans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
               =20
                <div class=3D"ydpe775fcfquoted-text-header">
                        On Monday, December 22, 2025 at 10:32:02 AM CST, AO=
L &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
                    </div>
                </div><div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica=
, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;border-left: 1px solid #cc=
c;padding-left: 8px;margin: 0px 0px 0px 8px" class=3D"ydpe775fcfinline_repl=
y_quote_container" data-split-quote-node=3D"true">
                <div><br></div><div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydpe775fcfyiv1405122492"><div><div style=3D=
"font-family:Verdana;font-size:12.0px;"><div>I've been clearing up my SSD t=
oday of junk and came across this attached article I wrote about 12 years a=
go for a UK club. Coincidence really, because it deals with the aftermath o=
f an expired letter of credit which was hopefully explained to you yesterda=
y.</div>

<div>This one has pictures in it but you'll find them at the end with their=
 captions</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div>Jonmac</div></div></div></div>** <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> **<br>=
<br>Donate: <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel=3D"nofollow" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href=3D"=
http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">=
http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a>&nbsp; <a href=3D"http://www.team=
.net/archive" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/archiv=
e</a><br><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/o=
ptions/triumphs/[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">http=
://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/[email-masked]</a><br></div>
            </div>
        </div></div></body></html>
------=_Part_3507032_1972276038.1766427057500--

--===============6855746750250478585==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

** [email-masked] **

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs  http://www.team.net/archive

--===============6855746750250478585==--

---

From: John Macartney <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2025 18:55:35 +0000

--===============4236182559277532947==
	boundary=Apple-Mail-77C38038-1DB7-4B1E-8A61-CCFBD0FA1F8D
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

--Apple-Mail-77C38038-1DB7-4B1E-8A61-CCFBD0FA1F8D
	charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dave, you are partly correct about Old Pigs Ear beer. It=E2=80=99s now calle=
d just Pigs Ear and is brewed by the Uley Brewery in Gloucestershire (pronou=
nced Glostershuh). It=E2=80=99s therefore a very local brew to where I live a=
nd has won several prizes in competitions run by our Campaign for Real Ales (=
CAMRA). It=E2=80=99s a pale ale, very hoppy and is a tad over 5% alcohol. Af=
ter a few pints, you=E2=80=99ll be ready to drive fast through speed limits a=
nd not get caught. The =E2=80=98old=E2=80=99 part of its original name was r=
emoved when a group supporting ageism in general felt it was unkind to elder=
ly people. They didn=E2=80=99t seem to think about what the pigs felt about i=
t....

JM

> On 22 Dec 2025, at 18:10, DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> Yet another engaging treatise on the history of our cars.  As a diversion I=
 googled "Old Pig's Ear" and And did not find any reference to a British bre=
wery serving "Old Pig's Ear" but there is a brewery in New Hampshire offerin=
g up "Pig's Ear Brown" which is an English style beer.  Sounds yummy.  I mus=
t check it out. =20
>=20
> BTW Woodstock Brewery started brewing in 1995.  I wonder if this is the sa=
me beer that found its way across the pond.
>=20
> On another note, Green's Dictionary of Slang defines Pig's Ear as slang fo=
r beer (possibly Cockney rhyming slang).  As in=20
> "I bunged down a tosheroon for two pigs=E2=80=99 ears."
>=20
> Dave=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Monday, December 22, 2025 at 10:32:02 AM CST, AOL <[email-masked]=
> I've been clearing up my SSD today of junk and came across this attached a=
rticle I wrote about 12 years ago for a UK club. Coincidence really, because=
 it deals with the aftermath of an expired letter of credit which was hopefu=
lly explained to you yesterday.
> This one has pictures in it but you'll find them at the end with their cap=
tions
> Jonmac
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs  http://www.team.net/archi=
ve
>=20
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1ma=
[email-masked]

--Apple-Mail-77C38038-1DB7-4B1E-8A61-CCFBD0FA1F8D
	charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Dav=
e, you are partly correct about Old Pigs Ear beer. It=E2=80=99s now called j=
ust Pigs Ear and is brewed by the Uley Brewery in Gloucestershire (pronounce=
d Glostershuh). It=E2=80=99s therefore a very local brew to where I live and=
 has won several prizes in competitions run by our Campaign for Real Ales (C=
AMRA). It=E2=80=99s a pale ale, very hoppy and is a tad over 5% alcohol. Aft=
er a few pints, you=E2=80=99ll be ready to drive fast through speed limits a=
nd not get caught. The =E2=80=98old=E2=80=99 part of its original name was r=
emoved when a group supporting ageism in general felt it was unkind to elder=
ly people. They didn=E2=80=99t seem to think about what the pigs felt about i=
t....</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">JM</div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br>On 22 Dec 2025, at 18:10, DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave1ma=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"ydpebafaeceyahoo-style-wrap" style=3D=
"font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir=3D"=
ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Yet another engaging treatise on the history of o=
ur cars.&nbsp; As a diversion I googled "Old Pig's Ear" and And did not find=
 any reference to a British brewery serving "Old Pig's Ear" but there is a b=
rewery in New Hampshire offering up "Pig's Ear Brown" which is an English st=
yle beer.&nbsp; Sounds yummy.&nbsp; I must check it out.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D=
"false">BTW Woodstock Brewery started brewing in 1995.&nbsp; I wonder if thi=
s is the same beer that found its way across the pond.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
 data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">On a=
nother note, Green's Dictionary of Slang defines Pig's Ear as slang for beer=
 (possibly Cockney rhyming slang).&nbsp; As in&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr" d=
ata-setdir=3D"false">"<span><span style=3D"color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-fami=
ly: Libertine, serif; font-size: 14px; letter-spacing: normal;">I bunged dow=
n a tosheroon</span><span style=3D"color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: Libe=
rtine, serif; font-size: 14px; letter-spacing: normal;">&nbsp;for two pigs=E2=
=80=99 ears."</span></span></div><div><br></div><div class=3D"ydpebafaecesig=
nature"><div style=3D"color: black; font-style: normal; font-size-adjust: no=
ne; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12pt; line-height:=
 normal; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><div style=3D"color: bl=
ack; font-style: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-weight: normal; font-s=
tretch: normal; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial, He=
lvetica, sans-serif;"><div><font size=3D"4">Dave <br></font></div><div><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"><br></span><=
/div><br></div></div></div></div>
        <div><br></div><div><br></div>
       =20
        </div><div id=3D"ydpe775fcfyahoo_quoted_6550229885" class=3D"ydpe775=
fcfyahoo_quoted"><div class=3D"ydpe775fcfyahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-fam=
ily:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">
            <div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sa=
ns-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
               =20
                <div class=3D"ydpe775fcfquoted-text-header">
                        On Monday, December 22, 2025 at 10:32:02 AM CST, AOL=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt=
; wrote:
                    </div>
                </div><div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica,=
 Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;border-left: 1px solid #ccc;=
padding-left: 8px;margin: 0px 0px 0px 8px" class=3D"ydpe775fcfinline_reply_q=
uote_container" data-split-quote-node=3D"true">
                <div><br></div><div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydpe775fcfyiv1405122492"><div><div style=3D"=
font-family:Verdana;font-size:12.0px;"><div>I've been clearing up my SSD tod=
ay of junk and came across this attached article I wrote about 12 years ago f=
or a UK club. Coincidence really, because it deals with the aftermath of an e=
xpired letter of credit which was hopefully explained to you yesterday.</div=

<div>This one has pictures in it but you'll find them at the end with their c=
aptions</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div>Jonmac</div></div></div></div>** <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> **<br><b=
r>Donate: <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel=3D"nofollow" targe=
t=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href=3D"http=
://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">http:=
//www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a>&nbsp; <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/a=
rchive" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><b=
r><br>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/t=
riumphs/[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">http://autox.=
team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/[email-masked]</a><br></div>
            </div>
        </div></div></div></blockquote></body></html>=

--Apple-Mail-77C38038-1DB7-4B1E-8A61-CCFBD0FA1F8D--

--===============4236182559277532947==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

--===============4236182559277532947==--

---

From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2025 19:09:18 +0000 (UTC)

--===============6969589708996605142==
	boundary="----=_Part_3537945_1489456522.1766430558640"

------=_Part_3537945_1489456522.1766430558640
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It's interesting that Uley Brewery has a strong presence on the internet (i=
e, they have a website) but Google USA seemed not to look beyond our border=
s when searching the WORLD wide web.
Dave=20

=20

    On Monday, December 22, 2025 at 12:55:39 PM CST, John Macartney <johnbm=
[email-masked]> wrote:  =20

 Dave, you are partly correct about Old Pigs Ear beer. It=E2=80=99s now cal=
led just Pigs Ear and is brewed by the Uley Brewery in Gloucestershire (pro=
nounced Glostershuh). It=E2=80=99s therefore a very local brew to where I l=
ive and has won several prizes in competitions run by our Campaign for Real=
 Ales (CAMRA). It=E2=80=99s a pale ale, very hoppy and is a tad over 5% alc=
ohol. After a few pints, you=E2=80=99ll be ready to drive fast through spee=
d limits and not get caught. The =E2=80=98old=E2=80=99 part of its original=
 name was removed when a group supporting ageism in general felt it was unk=
ind to elderly people. They didn=E2=80=99t seem to think about what the pig=
s felt about it....
JM
On 22 Dec 2025, at 18:10, DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> wrote:

=20

[email-masked]
 =20
 =20
------=_Part_3537945_1489456522.1766430558640
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydpf667ca86yahoo-style-wrap" style=
=3D"font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">It's interesting that Uley Brewery has a str=
ong presence on the internet (ie, they have a website) but Google USA seeme=
d not to look beyond our borders when searching the WORLD wide web.</div><d=
iv><br></div><div class=3D"ydpf667ca86signature"><div style=3D"color: black=
; font-style: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-weight: normal; font-str=
etch: normal; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial, Hel=
vetica, sans-serif;"><div style=3D"color: black; font-style: normal; font-s=
ize-adjust: none; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12p=
t; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><div><f=
ont size=3D"4">Dave <br></font></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:sans-serif;color:black;"><br></span></div><br></div></div></div>=
</div>
        <div><br></div><div><br></div>
       =20
        </div><div id=3D"ydp197a5195yahoo_quoted_6672046354" class=3D"ydp19=
7a5195yahoo_quoted"><div class=3D"ydp197a5195yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"fon=
t-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">
            <div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, s=
ans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
               =20
                <div class=3D"ydp197a5195quoted-text-header">
                        On Monday, December 22, 2025 at 12:55:39 PM CST, Jo=
hn Macartney &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
                    </div>
                </div><div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica=
, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;border-left: 1px solid #cc=
c;padding-left: 8px;margin: 0px 0px 0px 8px" class=3D"ydp197a5195inline_rep=
ly_quote_container" data-split-quote-node=3D"true">
                <div><br></div><div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp197a5195yiv8445619757"><div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Dave, you are partly correct about Old Pigs Ear=
 beer. It=E2=80=99s now called just Pigs Ear and is brewed by the Uley Brew=
ery in Gloucestershire (pronounced Glostershuh). It=E2=80=99s therefore a v=
ery local brew to where I live and has won several prizes in competitions r=
un by our Campaign for Real Ales (CAMRA). It=E2=80=99s a pale ale, very hop=
py and is a tad over 5% alcohol. After a few pints, you=E2=80=99ll be ready=
 to drive fast through speed limits and not get caught. The =E2=80=98old=E2=
=80=99 part of its original name was removed when a group supporting ageism=
 in general felt it was unkind to elderly people. They didn=E2=80=99t seem =
to think about what the pigs felt about it....</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br cl=
ear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">JM</div><div id=3D"ydp197a5195yiv844561=
9757yqt49026" class=3D"ydp197a5195yiv8445619757yqt2666018803"><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br clear=3D"none">On 22 Dec 2025, at 18:10, DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a shape=
=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_bl=
ank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"=
></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-family=
:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" class=3D"ydp197a5195yiv84456=
19757ydpebafaeceyahoo-style-wrap"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Yet another engagin=
g treatise on the history of our cars.&nbsp; As a diversion I googled "Old =
Pig's Ear" and And did not find any reference to a British brewery serving =
"Old Pig's Ear" but there is a brewery in New Hampshire offering up "Pig's =
Ear Brown" which is an English style beer.&nbsp; Sounds yummy.&nbsp; I must=
 check it out.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">BTW Woodstock Brewery started brewing in 1995.&nbsp; I wond=
er if this is the same beer that found its way across the pond.</div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">On another note, Green=
's Dictionary of Slang defines Pig's Ear as slang for beer (possibly Cockne=
y rhyming slang).&nbsp; As in&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">"<span><span styl=
e=3D"color:rgb(68, 68, 68);font-family:Libertine, serif;font-size:14px;lett=
er-spacing:normal;">I bunged down a tosheroon</span><span style=3D"color:rg=
b(68, 68, 68);font-family:Libertine, serif;font-size:14px;letter-spacing:no=
rmal;">&nbsp;for two pigs=E2=80=99 ears."</span></span></div><div><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"ydp197a5195yiv8445619757ydpebafaecesignature"=
><div style=3D"color:black;font-style:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-wei=
ght:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12pt;line-height:normal;font-famil=
y:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><div style=3D"color:black;font-style:norma=
l;font-size-adjust:none;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12=
pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><div><font=
 size=3D"4">Dave <br clear=3D"none"></font></div><div><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"><br clear=3D"none"></span><=
/div><br clear=3D"none"></div></div></div></div>
        <div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
       =20
        </div><div id=3D"ydp197a5195yiv8445619757ydpe775fcfyahoo_quoted_655=
0229885" class=3D"ydp197a5195yiv8445619757ydpe775fcfyahoo_quoted"><div styl=
e=3D"font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" class=3D"ydp=
197a5195yiv8445619757ydpe775fcfyahoo-style-wrap">
            <div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, s=
ans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
               =20
                <div class=3D"ydp197a5195yiv8445619757ydpe775fcfquoted-text=
-header">
                        On Monday, December 22, 2025 at 10:32:02 AM CST, AO=
L &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofol=
low" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
                    </div>
                </div><div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica=
, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;border-left:1px solid #ccc=
;padding-left:8px;margin:0px 0px 0px 8px;" class=3D"ydp197a5195yiv844561975=
7ydpe775fcfinline_reply_quote_container">
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div=
                <div><div id=3D"ydp197a5195yiv8445619757ydpe775fcfyiv140512=
2492"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Verdana;font-size:12.0px;"><div>I've b=
een clearing up my SSD today of junk and came across this attached article =
I wrote about 12 years ago for a UK club. Coincidence really, because it de=
als with the aftermath of an expired letter of credit which was hopefully e=
xplained to you yesterday.</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div>Jonmac</div></div></div></div>** <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:triu=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
.net</a> **<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Donate: <a shape=3D"rect" =
href=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"=
>http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br clear=3D"none">Archive: <a shape=3D=
"rect" href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs" rel=3D"nofollow" tar=
get=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a>&nbsp; <a shape=3D=
"rect" href=3D"http://www.team.net/archive" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_bla=
nk">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Un=
subscribe/Manage: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/o=
ptions/triumphs/[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">http=
://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/[email-masked]</a><br clear=
=3D"none"></div>
            </div>
        </div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div>
            </div>
        </div></div></body></html>
------=_Part_3537945_1489456522.1766430558640--

--===============6969589708996605142==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

--===============6969589708996605142==--

---

From: John Macartney <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2025 16:22:35 +0000

--===============7248439248142154762==
	boundary=Apple-Mail-5523AE93-F8F7-4B09-8833-2B6C4A42027E
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

--Apple-Mail-5523AE93-F8F7-4B09-8833-2B6C4A42027E
	charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On my US trips in the past, I=E2=80=99d noticed that Google at your end very=
 often overlooks the fact that there really is a world beyond US frontiers. P=
erhaps its algowotsits need re-programming? Doesn=E2=80=99t work like that h=
ere.

JM

> On 22 Dec 2025, at 19:09, DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> It's interesting that Uley Brewery has a strong presence on the internet (=
ie, they have a website) but Google USA seemed not to look beyond our border=
s when searching the WORLD wide web.
>=20
> Dave=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Monday, December 22, 2025 at 12:55:39 PM CST, John Macartney <johnbmaca=
> Dave, you are partly correct about Old Pigs Ear beer. It=E2=80=99s now cal=
led just Pigs Ear and is brewed by the Uley Brewery in Gloucestershire (pron=
ounced Glostershuh). It=E2=80=99s therefore a very local brew to where I liv=
e and has won several prizes in competitions run by our Campaign for Real Al=
es (CAMRA). It=E2=80=99s a pale ale, very hoppy and is a tad over 5% alcohol=
. After a few pints, you=E2=80=99ll be ready to drive fast through speed lim=
its and not get caught. The =E2=80=98old=E2=80=99 part of its original name w=
as removed when a group supporting ageism in general felt it was unkind to e=
lderly people. They didn=E2=80=99t seem to think about what the pigs felt ab=
out it....
>> Yet another engaging treatise on the history of our cars.  As a diversion=
 I googled "Old Pig's Ear" and And did not find any reference to a British b=
rewery serving "Old Pig's Ear" but there is a brewery in New Hampshire offer=
ing up "Pig's Ear Brown" which is an English style beer.  Sounds yummy.  I m=
ust check it out. =20
>>=20
>> BTW Woodstock Brewery started brewing in 1995.  I wonder if this is the s=
ame beer that found its way across the pond.
>>=20
>> On another note, Green's Dictionary of Slang defines Pig's Ear as slang f=
or beer (possibly Cockney rhyming slang).  As in=20
>> On Monday, December 22, 2025 at 10:32:02 AM CST, AOL <johnbmacartney@gmx.=
>> This one has pictures in it but you'll find them at the end with their ca=
ptions
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs  http://www.team.net/arch=
ive
>>=20
>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1m=
[email-masked]

--Apple-Mail-5523AE93-F8F7-4B09-8833-2B6C4A42027E
	charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">On m=
y US trips in the past, I=E2=80=99d noticed that Google at your end very oft=
en overlooks the fact that there really is a world beyond US frontiers. Perh=
aps its algowotsits need re-programming? Doesn=E2=80=99t work like that here=
.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">JM</div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<br>On 22 Dec 2025, at 19:09, DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave1massey=
@cs.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"ydpf667ca86yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"f=
ont-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir=3D"lt=
r" data-setdir=3D"false">It's interesting that Uley Brewery has a strong pre=
sence on the internet (ie, they have a website) but Google USA seemed not to=
 look beyond our borders when searching the WORLD wide web.</div><div><br></=
div><div class=3D"ydpf667ca86signature"><div style=3D"color: black; font-sty=
le: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: norma=
l; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans=
-serif;"><div style=3D"color: black; font-style: normal; font-size-adjust: n=
one; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12pt; line-height=
: normal; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><div><font size=3D"4">=
Dave <br></font></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-=
serif;color:black;"><br></span></div><br></div></div></div></div>
        <div><br></div><div><br></div>
       =20
        </div><div id=3D"ydp197a5195yahoo_quoted_6672046354" class=3D"ydp197=
a5195yahoo_quoted"><div class=3D"ydp197a5195yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-=
family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">
            <div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sa=
ns-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
               =20
                <div class=3D"ydp197a5195quoted-text-header">
                        On Monday, December 22, 2025 at 12:55:39 PM CST, Joh=
n Macartney &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">johnbmacartney@gmx=
.com</a>&gt; wrote:
                    </div>
                </div><div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica,=
 Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;border-left: 1px solid #ccc;=
padding-left: 8px;margin: 0px 0px 0px 8px" class=3D"ydp197a5195inline_reply_=
quote_container" data-split-quote-node=3D"true">
                <div><br></div><div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp197a5195yiv8445619757"><div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Dave, you are partly correct about Old Pigs Ear b=
eer. It=E2=80=99s now called just Pigs Ear and is brewed by the Uley Brewery=
 in Gloucestershire (pronounced Glostershuh). It=E2=80=99s therefore a very l=
ocal brew to where I live and has won several prizes in competitions run by o=
ur Campaign for Real Ales (CAMRA). It=E2=80=99s a pale ale, very hoppy and i=
s a tad over 5% alcohol. After a few pints, you=E2=80=99ll be ready to drive=
 fast through speed limits and not get caught. The =E2=80=98old=E2=80=99 par=
t of its original name was removed when a group supporting ageism in general=
 felt it was unkind to elderly people. They didn=E2=80=99t seem to think abo=
ut what the pigs felt about it....</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">JM</div><div id=3D"ydp197a5195yiv8445619757yqt49026" c=
lass=3D"ydp197a5195yiv8445619757yqt2666018803"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D=
"none">On 22 Dec 2025, at 18:10, DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">dave1massey@cs=
.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sa=
ns-serif;font-size:16px;" class=3D"ydp197a5195yiv8445619757ydpebafaeceyahoo-=
style-wrap"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Yet another engaging treatise on the histo=
ry of our cars.&nbsp; As a diversion I googled "Old Pig's Ear" and And did n=
ot find any reference to a British brewery serving "Old Pig's Ear" but there=
 is a brewery in New Hampshire offering up "Pig's Ear Brown" which is an Eng=
lish style beer.&nbsp; Sounds yummy.&nbsp; I must check it out.&nbsp;&nbsp;<=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">BTW Woodstoc=
k Brewery started brewing in 1995.&nbsp; I wonder if this is the same beer t=
hat found its way across the pond.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">On another note, Green's Dictionary of Slang defines P=
ig's Ear as slang for beer (possibly Cockney rhyming slang).&nbsp; As in&nbs=
p;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">"<span><span style=3D"color:rgb(68, 68, 68);font-fa=
mily:Libertine, serif;font-size:14px;letter-spacing:normal;">I bunged down a=
 tosheroon</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(68, 68, 68);font-family:Libertine,=
 serif;font-size:14px;letter-spacing:normal;">&nbsp;for two pigs=E2=80=99 ea=
rs."</span></span></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"ydp197a5=
195yiv8445619757ydpebafaecesignature"><div style=3D"color:black;font-style:n=
ormal;font-size-adjust:none;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size=
:12pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><div sty=
le=3D"color:black;font-style:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-weight:normal=
;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial, He=
lvetica, sans-serif;"><div><font size=3D"4">Dave <br clear=3D"none"></font><=
/div><div><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black=
;"><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><br clear=3D"none"></div></div></div></di=
v>
        <div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
       =20
        </div><div id=3D"ydp197a5195yiv8445619757ydpe775fcfyahoo_quoted_6550=
229885" class=3D"ydp197a5195yiv8445619757ydpe775fcfyahoo_quoted"><div style=3D=
"font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" class=3D"ydp197a5=
195yiv8445619757ydpe775fcfyahoo-style-wrap">
            <div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sa=
ns-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
               =20
                <div class=3D"ydp197a5195yiv8445619757ydpe775fcfquoted-text-=
header">
                        On Monday, December 22, 2025 at 10:32:02 AM CST, AOL=
 &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollo=
w" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
                    </div>
                </div><div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica,=
 Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;border-left:1px solid #ccc;p=
adding-left:8px;margin:0px 0px 0px 8px;" class=3D"ydp197a5195yiv8445619757yd=
pe775fcfinline_reply_quote_container">
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>=

                <div><div id=3D"ydp197a5195yiv8445619757ydpe775fcfyiv1405122=
492"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Verdana;font-size:12.0px;"><div>I've bee=
n clearing up my SSD today of junk and came across this attached article I w=
rote about 12 years ago for a UK club. Coincidence really, because it deals w=
ith the aftermath of an expired letter of credit which was hopefully explain=
ed to you yesterday.</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div>Jonmac</div></div></div></div>** <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:trium=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
et</a> **<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Donate: <a shape=3D"rect" hre=
f=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">htt=
p://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br clear=3D"none">Archive: <a shape=3D"rect=
" href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D=
"_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a>&nbsp; <a shape=3D"rect" h=
ref=3D"http://www.team.net/archive" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">http:=
//www.team.net/archive</a><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Unsubscribe/=
Manage: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triu=
mphs/[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">http://autox.tea=
m.net/mailman/options/triumphs/[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none"></di=
v>
            </div>
        </div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div>
            </div>
        </div></div></div></blockquote></body></html>=

--Apple-Mail-5523AE93-F8F7-4B09-8833-2B6C4A42027E--

--===============7248439248142154762==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

--===============7248439248142154762==--