Subject: [TR] The List is Less Busy These Days

From: Will Daehler <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2025 15:10:20 -0600

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Certainly the volume is down.
But I am still here, and read the digest most days, for about 28 years.
During this time, I learned so much from all of you, and early on developed
friends who helped me immensely. They shared parts, knowledge, and tools.
Without you guys and Mark's early computer skills,  all would have been
lost.
Recently we have sort of re-assmbled on various Facebook sites.

Will Daehler
63 TR4

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and early on developed friends who helped me immensely. They shared parts, =
knowledge, and tools.</div><div dir=3D"auto">Without you guys and Mark&#39;=
s early computer=C2=A0skills,=C2=A0 all would have been lost.=C2=A0</div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto">Recently we have sort of re-assmbled on various Facebook si=
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From: John Macartney <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2025 22:10:07 +0000

Just out of casual interest, how many are still here in comparison to say the Millenium? I suspect not many.
I know BookFace has many adherents and I was on it for a while until I seemingly upset its algorithms by saying something they/it didn’t like and BookFace has informed me more than once when I try to rejoin that I’m banned for life. Okay Zuckerberg, I’m not in sympathy with your political inclinations anyway and I certainly got sick of receiving stuff your algorithms were convinced I’d like, when the reality was they bored me witless. I’ve been a reluctant subscriber to The Triumph Experience for a couple of years which also doesn’t grab me. It’s too Standard-Triumph model specific, people get upset when they accidentally post to the wrong forum and there has been some disquieting and very discourteous responses and no one seems to be particularly helpful. Mark’s monthly reminders tell me I’m logged to 6 Pack but I never get six pack stuff coming my way and even with the correct password, I can’t access it.
The reality (for me) is that tech is going too fast for me to keep up with it and I refuse to spend any day of my surely now limited life transfixed by my smartphone screen that 99% of the rest of the world seems happy to do. I’m not enamoured by either my former iPhone or current Samsung as they’re both full of trash programs that hold zero interest and I can’t be bothered or motivated to learn how they work.
Perhaps it’s better for me to once more return to the days of carbon paper, card index boxes and an abacus. At least I know how they work!

Jonmac

> On 12 Dec 2025, at 21:10, Will Daehler <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> During this time, I learned so much from all of you, and early on developed friends who helped me immensely. They shared parts, knowledge, and tools.
> Without you guys and Mark's early computer skills,  all would have been lost. 

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From: acstults <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2025 15:16:03 -0800

I'm still here.  Since I bought my '62 TR 3B in 2004.  It's actually titled as a '63, but I remember reading that they didn't build any TR 3s in '63.  I've rarely posted in all those years, but I've read nearly every issue since that date.  I have benefited from some very valuable information over those years.

Allan
Veneta, Oregon

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From: Rich White <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2025 23:40:32 +0000

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Mine is exactly the same way.
It is my understanding that back then they titled the cars the year they we=
re sold, so ours must have sat on the car lot for awhile.

Rich White Central, IL USA
'63 TR3B TCF###L
That ain't a scrap pile, that is my car!
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[email-masked]>
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2025 5:16 PM
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Subject: Re: [TR] The List is Less Busy These Days

I'm still here.  Since I bought my '62 TR 3B in 2004.  It's actually titled=
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 I've rarely posted in all those years, but I've read nearly every issue si=
nce that date.  I have benefited from some very valuable information over t=
hose years.

Allan
Veneta, Oregon

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Mine is exactly the same way.</div>
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It is my understanding that back then they titled the cars the year they we=
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<div class=3D"elementToProof">Rich White Central, IL USA<br>
'63 TR3B TCF###L<br>
That ain't a scrap pile, that is my car!<br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 13, 2025 5:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> John Macartney &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; Will Daehler &lt;=
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<b>Cc:</b> [email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
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<div class=3D"PlainText">I'm still here.&nbsp; Since I bought my '62 TR 3B =
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<br>
Allan<br>
Veneta, Oregon<br>
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From: Brian Kemp <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2025 15:23:50 +0000

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I joined this TR list in the mid 1990's following the purchase of my 72 TR6=
.  I added a 73 GT6 in the early 2000s.  I'm also on the shoptalk list and =
was on the autox list. My TR6 sports the team.net window decal.

I read every e-mail, but for some reason that started a few months ago I =
have not received many initial e-mails and my provider is flagging most of =
the team.net e-mails as spam despite me taking active steps to whitelist =
the domain and frequent users.

Brian Kemp

On Sat, Dec 13, 2025 at 5:23=E2=80=AFPM John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gmx.=
com (mailto:[email-masked])> wrote:

Just out of casual interest, how many are still here in comparison to say =
the Millenium? I suspect not many.
I know BookFace has many adherents and I was on it for a while until I =
seemingly upset its algorithms by saying something they/it didn&rsquo;t =
like and BookFace has informed me more than once when I try to rejoin that =
I&rsquo;m banned for life. Okay Zuckerberg, I&rsquo;m not in sympathy with =
your political inclinations anyway and I certainly got sick of receiving =
stuff your algorithms were convinced I&rsquo;d like, when the reality was =
they bored me witless. I&rsquo;ve been a reluctant subscriber to The =
Triumph Experience for a couple of years which also doesn&rsquo;t grab me. =
It&rsquo;s too Standard-Triumph model specific, people get upset when they =
accidentally post to the wrong forum and there has been some disquieting =
and very discourteous responses and no one seems to be particularly helpful=
. Mark&rsquo;s monthly reminders tell me I&rsquo;m logged to 6 Pack but I =
never get six pack stuff coming my way and even with the correct password, =
I can&rsquo;t access it.
The reality (for me) is that tech is going too fast for me to keep up with =
it and I refuse to spend any day of my surely now limited life transfixed =
by my smartphone screen that 99% of the rest of the world seems happy to do=
. I&rsquo;m not enamoured by either my former iPhone or current Samsung as =
they&rsquo;re both full of trash programs that hold zero interest and I =
can&rsquo;t be bothered or motivated to learn how they work.
Perhaps it&rsquo;s better for me to once more return to the days of carbon =
paper, card index boxes and an abacus. At least I know how they work!

Jonmac

> On 12 Dec 2025, at 21:10, Will Daehler <[email-masked] =
(mailto:[email-masked])> wrote:
>=20
> But I am still here, and read the digest most days, for about 28 years. =
=20
> During this time, I learned so much from all of you, and early on =
developed friends who helped me immensely. They shared parts, knowledge, =
and tools.
> Without you guys and Mark's early computer skills,  all would have been =
lost.=20
>=20
> Will Daehler=20

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<div style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12p=
t"><p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">I joined this TR list =
in the mid 1990's following the purchase of my 72 TR6.&nbsp; I added a 73 =
GT6 in the early 2000s.&nbsp; I'm also on the shoptalk list and was on the =
autox list. My TR6 sports the team.net window decal.</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">I read every e-mail, but =
for some reason that started a few months ago I have not received many =
initial e-mails and my provider is flagging most of the team.net e-mails as=
 spam despite me taking active steps to whitelist the domain and frequent =
users.</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">Brian Kemp</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">&nbsp;</p>
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solid #aaa; box-sizing: border-box; padding: 10px 0 10px 15px; margin: =
0;">
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<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family: arial,sans-serif; =
font-size: small;"><span style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;">On =
Sat, Dec 13, 2025 at 5:23=E2=80=AFPM John Macartney &lt;</span><a =
style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;" href=3D"mailto:johnbmacartne=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">johnbmacartney@gmx.=
com</a><span style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;">&gt; =
wrote:</span></div>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; =
border-left: 1px solid #cccccc; padding-left: 1ex;">Just out of casual =
interest, how many are still here in comparison to say the Millenium? I =
suspect not many.<br>I know BookFace has many adherents and I was on it for=
 a while until I seemingly upset its algorithms by saying something they/it=
 didn=E2=80=99t like and BookFace has informed me more than once when I try=
 to rejoin that I=E2=80=99m banned for life. Okay Zuckerberg, I=E2=80=99m =
not in sympathy with your political inclinations anyway and I certainly got=
 sick of receiving stuff your algorithms were convinced I=E2=80=99d like, =
when the reality was they bored me witless. I=E2=80=99ve been a reluctant =
subscriber to The Triumph Experience for a couple of years which also =
doesn=E2=80=99t grab me. It=E2=80=99s too Standard-Triumph model specific, =
people get upset when they accidentally post to the wrong forum and there =
has been some disquieting and very discourteous responses and no one seems =
to be particularly helpful. Mark=E2=80=99s monthly reminders tell me =
I=E2=80=99m logged to 6 Pack but I never get six pack stuff coming my way =
and even with the correct password, I can=E2=80=99t access it.<br>The =
reality (for me) is that tech is going too fast for me to keep up with it =
and I refuse to spend any day of my surely now limited life transfixed by =
my smartphone screen that 99% of the rest of the world seems happy to do. =
I=E2=80=99m not enamoured by either my former iPhone or current Samsung as =
they=E2=80=99re both full of trash programs that hold zero interest and I =
can=E2=80=99t be bothered or motivated to learn how they work.<br>Perhaps =
it=E2=80=99s better for me to once more return to the days of carbon paper,=
 card index boxes and an abacus. At least I know how they work!=
<br><br>Jonmac<br><br>&gt; On 12 Dec 2025, at 21:10, Will Daehler &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noopener">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; =
Certainly the volume is down.<br>&gt; But I am still here, and read the =
digest most days, for about 28 years.&nbsp; <br>&gt; During this time, I =
learned so much from all of you, and early on developed friends who helped =
me immensely. They shared parts, knowledge, and tools.<br>&gt; Without you =
guys and Mark's early computer skills,&nbsp; all would have been lost. =
<br>&gt; Recently we have sort of re-assmbled on various Facebook sites.=
<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Will Daehler <br>&gt; 63 TR4<br><br>** <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noopener">[email-masked]</a> **<br><br>Donate: <a =
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I've been mostly a lurker since sometime in the late 1990s if I remember correctly, and I've even got the grill badge and window stickers to prove it! Met a few of you in person over the yearsand a few highlights include meeting legends Fred Thomas and Herman Van Den Akker in person at a TRF Summer Party. Thanks to Dave MacKay for including the donation link in the last Digest I received, I was overdue. Thanks Mark!
Eric L.71 TR6
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From: John Macartney <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2025 20:40:44 +0000

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I suppose the Healey widow driver could be forgiven? After all, the German E=
ngine Factory has owned the Rolls Royce car division for some while and its c=
urrent Deutsche Blokhaus saloon also has a GEF V12 engine. One wonders if it=
=E2=80=99s a sleeved down variant of the inverted V12 of the Messerschmitt B=
F109E but now rotated by 180deg?

Jonmac

> On 27 Dec 2025, at 12:22, DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> On Friday, December 26, 2025 at 01:37:51 PM CST, David P <frogeye@portersc=
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> I had an ex-Healey racer's widow drive me to dinner yesterday. The subject=
 of BMW's came up..(her car). She thought that BMW meant British Motor Works=
... she was crushed to learn it was Bavarian...

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uppose the Healey widow driver could be forgiven? After all, the German Engi=
ne Factory has owned the Rolls Royce car division for some while and its cur=
rent Deutsche Blokhaus saloon also has a GEF V12 engine. One wonders if it=E2=
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9E but now rotated by 180deg?</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Jonmac</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On 27 Dec 2025, at 12:22, DAVID MASSEY &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
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ne to make that mistaken assumption.&nbsp; Years ago UI corrected someone wh=
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      The subject of BMW's came up..(her car). She thought that BMW
      meant British Motor Works... she was crushed to learn it was
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