Subject: Re: [TR] More reliable brake switches

From: bill beecher <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2025 10:45:31 -0500

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John,
Somewhere in my archives I have a sound bite of your unkind regard for the m=
otorbikes on the Tail of the Dragon.  Need to find that.=20
Bill B
=20
=E2=80=9CIf at first you don=E2=80=99t succeed, then skydiving definitely is=
n=E2=80=99t for you=E2=80=9D

On Sep 15, 2025, at 1:53=E2=80=AFPM, John Macartney <[email-masked]>=
 wrote:

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Don,
=20
Your recommendation for H-D kit took me back many years to when I reported t=
o the list =E2=80=93 or was it someone else (?) that two domed and plated nu=
ts and oil proof washers off the Honda Gold Wing were ideal substitutes to t=
he factory fitted hardware that appeared on all the valve covers.
Talking of the Gold Wing, I recall following one with two people on it when I=
 did the Tail of the Dragon in TN in 2009 in a Stag. At the time, I felt and=
 said to the video camera I had running that pushing a concert-sized grand p=
iano along that stretch of road would have been far easier for the pushers t=
han riding a huge bike of that type.
=20
Jonmac
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"auto">John,<div>Somewhere in my archives I have a sound bite of your unkind=
 regard for the motorbikes on the Tail of the Dragon. &nbsp;Need to find tha=
t.&nbsp;</div><div>Bill B</div><div>&nbsp;<br id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfSi=
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rst you don=E2=80=99t succeed, then skydiving definitely isn=E2=80=99t for y=
ou=E2=80=9D</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Sep 15, 2025, at 1:53=E2=80=AF=
PM, John Macartney &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div d=
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oNormal">Don,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">Your recommendation for H-D kit took me back many years t=
o when I reported to the list =E2=80=93 or was it someone else (?) that two d=
omed and plated nuts and oil proof washers off the Honda Gold Wing were idea=
l substitutes to the factory fitted hardware that appeared on all the valve c=
overs. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Talking of the Gold Wing, I rec=
all following one with two people on it when I did the Tail of the Dragon in=
 TN in 2009 in a Stag. At the time, I felt and said to the video camera I ha=
d running that pushing a concert-sized grand piano along that stretch of roa=
d would have been far easier for the pushers than riding a huge bike of that=
 type.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">Jonmac<o:p></o:p></p></div><span>** [email-masked] **</=
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From: John Macartney <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2025 17:12:16 +0100

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Bill,

You may have misunderstood me? I don=E2=80=99t have a disregard for motorcyc=
les at all - in fact quite the contrary. As I recall, my ascerbic comment on=
 the Tail of the Dragon was that to really enjoy the challenges of that road=
 on a proper motorcycle, one needed the likes of a Kawasaki, Moto Guzzi or s=
omething both powerful and safely bankable, rather than a Honda Goldwing doi=
ng 20mph maximum, taking up far too much road and creating a trail of at lea=
st ten or twelve cars in its wake. The little Triumph Tiger Cub I had at the=
 age of 16 would have easily and very effectively run circles round that hug=
e Honda.

Best

John

> On 3 Oct 2025, at 16:45, bill beecher <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> John,
> Somewhere in my archives I have a sound bite of your unkind regard for the=
 motorbikes on the Tail of the Dragon.  Need to find that.=20
> Bill B
> =20
> =E2=80=9CIf at first you don=E2=80=99t succeed, then skydiving definitely i=
sn=E2=80=99t for you=E2=80=9D
>=20
> On Sep 15, 2025, at 1:53=E2=80=AFPM, John Macartney <[email-masked]=
m> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> Don,
> =20
> Your recommendation for H-D kit took me back many years to when I reported=
 to the list =E2=80=93 or was it someone else (?) that two domed and plated n=
uts and oil proof washers off the Honda Gold Wing were ideal substitutes to t=
he factory fitted hardware that appeared on all the valve covers.
> Talking of the Gold Wing, I recall following one with two people on it whe=
n I did the Tail of the Dragon in TN in 2009 in a Stag. At the time, I felt a=
nd said to the video camera I had running that pushing a concert-sized grand=
 piano along that stretch of road would have been far easier for the pushers=
 than riding a huge bike of that type.
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Bil=
l,</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">You may have misundersto=
od me? I don=E2=80=99t have a disregard for motorcycles at all - in fact qui=
te the contrary. As I recall, my ascerbic comment on the Tail of the Dragon w=
as that to really enjoy the challenges of that road on a proper motorcycle, o=
ne needed the likes of a Kawasaki, Moto Guzzi or something both powerful and=
 safely bankable, rather than a Honda Goldwing doing 20mph maximum, taking u=
p far too much road and creating a trail of at least ten or twelve cars in i=
ts wake. The little Triumph Tiger Cub I had at the age of 16 would have easi=
ly and very effectively run circles round that huge Honda.</div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Best</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">John</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On 3 Oct 2025, at 16:45, bill beech=
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re in my archives I have a sound bite of your unkind regard for the motorbik=
es on the Tail of the Dragon. &nbsp;Need to find that.&nbsp;</div><div>Bill B=
</div><div>&nbsp;<br id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>=E2=80=9C<span style=3D"font-size: 19pt;">If at first you don=E2=80=99t suc=
ceed, then skydiving definitely isn=E2=80=99t for you=E2=80=9D</span></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Sep 15, 2025, at 1:53=E2=80=AFPM, John Macartney &lt;=
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lass=3D"MsoNormal">Your recommendation for H-D kit took me back many years t=
o when I reported to the list =E2=80=93 or was it someone else (?) that two d=
omed and plated nuts and oil proof washers off the Honda Gold Wing were idea=
l substitutes to the factory fitted hardware that appeared on all the valve c=
overs. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Talking of the Gold Wing, I rec=
all following one with two people on it when I did the Tail of the Dragon in=
 TN in 2009 in a Stag. At the time, I felt and said to the video camera I ha=
d running that pushing a concert-sized grand piano along that stretch of roa=
d would have been far easier for the pushers than riding a huge bike of that=
 type.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">Jonmac<o:p></o:p></p></div><span>** <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@a=
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