Subject: Re: [TR] 1972 Triumph TR6 - blinker problem

From: Dean Tetterton <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 11 May 2025 12:41:22 -0400

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The way the circuit is designed it is very dependent on the correct amp
draw through
the tied together circuits. The incorrect wattage of bulbs or a bad ground
causes problems.
With regular bulbs in front and led in back you perhaps hit on the correct
amp draw to
work. The circuit also depends on just the right flasher.

Now that you have it working, make sure you use the same wattage bulbs when
you change one
or the flasher.

Dean

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rote:

> This makes no sense to me.  Apparently in the last few weeks I replaced
> the front bulbs with LEDs.  The rear already had them.
>
>
>
> Replacing the front bulbs with analog bulbs fixed the problem, and, as a
> bonus, the green trafficator light is now working.  I haven=E2=80=99t see=
n that for
> years.
>
>
>
> Now the blinkers work as they should.
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">The way the circuit is designed it is very dependent on th=
e=C2=A0correct amp draw through<div>the tied together circuits. The incorre=
ct wattage of bulbs or a bad ground causes problems.</div><div>With regular=
 bulbs in front and led in back you perhaps hit on the correct amp draw to<=
/div><div>work. The circuit also depends on just the right flasher.=C2=A0</=
div><div><br></div><div>Now that you have it working, make sure you use the=
 same wattage bulbs when you change one</div><div>or the flasher.</div><div=
><br></div><div>Dean</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, May =
11, 2025 at 11:56=E2=80=AFAM dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@rante=
er.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204=
,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"msg2290743894039401708">

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">This makes no sense t=
o me.=C2=A0 Apparently in the last few weeks I replaced the front bulbs wit=
h LEDs.=C2=A0 The rear already had them.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">Replacing the front b=
ulbs with analog bulbs fixed the problem, and, as a bonus, the green traffi=
cator light is now working.=C2=A0 I haven=E2=80=99t seen that for years.<u>=
</u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">Now the blinkers work=
 as they should.=C2=A0
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
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From: Peter Arakelian <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 11 May 2025 17:04:39 +0000

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As I said before.  the incandescent bulbs provide a ballast, extra resistan=
ce on the circuit, that stops the bleed through the trafficator indicator t=
o the other bulbs.  Extra bonus, the front bulbs may light more brightly si=
nce they can draw more - mine did.
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From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> on behalf of dave northrup=
 <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2025 8:37 AM
To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Subject: [TR] 1972 Triumph TR6 - blinker problem

This makes no sense to me.  Apparently in the last few weeks I replaced the=
 front bulbs with LEDs.  The rear already had them.

Replacing the front bulbs with analog bulbs fixed the problem, and, as a bo=
nus, the green trafficator light is now working.  I haven=92t seen that for=
 years.

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As I said before.&nbsp; the incandescent bulbs provide a ballast, extra res=
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tor to the other bulbs.&nbsp; Extra bonus, the front bulbs may light more b=
rightly since they can draw more - mine did.</div>
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From: Greg Lemon <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 11 May 2025 12:05:50 -0500

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I believe I am running rear LEDs and front incandescents for my turn
signals too, as well as a LED for my blinker indicator in the dash (so I
can see it blinking in the sun).

They electronics all seem to play better together with a couple
incandescents in the loop, and I can track what is going on on in front of
me better then behind, so the brighter rear lights make sense.

Will just add that Randall (TR3Driver) was a whiz at this stuff, and if you
ever had an electrical problem he had a fix.

Many years ago I had a turn signal problem.with.my Ford Ranger, the Ford
Ranger forum was no help whatsoever, Randall gave me a part number for a
flasher I could get at the local car part shop, problem solved.

Greg Lemon
TR250

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<div dir=3D"auto">I believe I am running rear LEDs and front incandescents =
for my turn signals too, as well as a LED for my blinker indicator in the d=
ash (so I can see it blinking in the sun).<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div =
dir=3D"auto">They electronics all seem to play better together with a coupl=
e incandescents in the loop, and I can track what is going on on in front o=
f me better then behind, so the brighter rear lights make sense.</div><div =
dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Will just add that Randall (TR3Dri=
ver) was a whiz at this stuff, and if you ever had an electrical problem he=
 had a fix.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Many years a=
go I had a turn signal <a href=3D"http://problem.with.my">problem.with.my</=
a> Ford Ranger, the Ford Ranger forum was no help whatsoever, Randall gave =
me a part number for a flasher I could get at the local car part shop, prob=
lem solved.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Greg Lemon</=
div><div dir=3D"auto">TR250</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_=
quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, May 11, 2025=
, 10:59=E2=80=AFAM dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">da=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

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reak-word">
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">This makes no sense=
 to me.=C2=A0 Apparently in the last few weeks I replaced the front bulbs w=
ith LEDs.=C2=A0 The rear already had them.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Replacing the front=
 bulbs with analog bulbs fixed the problem, and, as a bonus, the green traf=
ficator light is now working.=C2=A0 I haven=E2=80=99t seen that for years.<=
u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Now the blinkers wo=
rk as they should.=C2=A0
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u=
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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 11 May 2025 18:34:39 +0000 (UTC)

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It looks like the flasher unit is a current-sensitive type and needs at lea=
st one incandescent bulb to flash.=C2=A0=C2=A0
The dash indicator makes perfect sense since it is an incandescent bulb its=
elf.=C2=A0 It works by providing a current path from the active flasher cir=
cuit to the other.=C2=A0 The dash bulb requires much less current to light =
than the actual turn signals so the current going through the dash bulb flo=
ws through the inactive turn signal bulbs but the current is too low to lig=
ht the bulbs.=C2=A0 Replacing the incandescent bulbs with LED's discombobul=
ates the voltage distribution in the circuit and it is quite likely that bo=
th turn right and left signals were flashing with the turn signal stalk in =
either position.=C2=A0=C2=A0
Dave=20

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.com> wrote:  =20

 =20
This makes no sense to me.=C2=A0 Apparently in the last few weeks I replace=
d the front bulbs with LEDs.=C2=A0 The rear already had them.
=20
 =C2=A0
=20
Replacing the front bulbs with analog bulbs fixed the problem, and, as a bo=
nus, the green trafficator light is now working.=C2=A0 I haven=E2=80=99t se=
en that for years.
=20
 =C2=A0
=20
Now the blinkers work as they should.=C2=A0
=20
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=20
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"font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir=3D=
"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">It looks like the flasher unit is a current-sen=
sitive type and needs at least one incandescent bulb to flash.&nbsp;&nbsp;<=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data=
-setdir=3D"false">The dash indicator makes perfect sense since it is an inc=
andescent bulb itself.&nbsp; It works by providing a current path from the =
active flasher circuit to the other.&nbsp; The dash bulb requires much less=
 current to light than the actual turn signals so the current going through=
 the dash bulb flows through the inactive turn signal bulbs but the current=
 is too low to light the bulbs.&nbsp; Replacing the incandescent bulbs with=
 LED's discombobulates the voltage distribution in the circuit and it is qu=
ite likely that both turn right and left signals were flashing with the tur=
n signal stalk in either position.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div cla=
ss=3D"ydp402869esignature"><div style=3D"color: black; font-style: normal; =
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<p class=3D"ydpb20ab309yiv2032166224MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.=
0pt;">This makes no sense to me.&nbsp; Apparently in the last few weeks I r=
eplaced the front bulbs with LEDs.&nbsp; The rear already had them.</span><=
/p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpb20ab309yiv2032166224MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.=
0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpb20ab309yiv2032166224MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.=
0pt;">Replacing the front bulbs with analog bulbs fixed the problem, and, a=
s a bonus, the green trafficator light is now working.&nbsp; I haven=E2=80=
=99t seen that for years.</span></p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpb20ab309yiv2032166224MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.=
0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpb20ab309yiv2032166224MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.=
0pt;">Now the blinkers work as they should.&nbsp;
</span></p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpb20ab309yiv2032166224MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.=
0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></p>=20
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0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></p>=20
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My TR6 is also running LED rear and incandescent in front.=C2=A0 My TR8 is =
running LED's all around but the dash indicators work completely differentl=
y.
Dave=20

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    On Sunday, May 11, 2025 at 12:41:38 PM CDT, Greg Lemon <[email-masked]=
m> wrote:  =20

 I believe I am running rear LEDs and front incandescents for my turn signa=
ls too, as well as a LED for my blinker indicator in the dash (so I can see=
 it blinking in the sun).
They electronics all seem to play better together with a couple incandescen=
ts in the loop, and I can track what is going on on in front of me better t=
hen behind, so the brighter rear lights make sense.
Will just add that Randall (TR3Driver) was a whiz at this stuff, and if you=
 ever had an electrical problem he had a fix.
Many years ago I had a turn signal problem.with.my Ford Ranger, the Ford Ra=
nger forum was no help whatsoever, Randall gave me a part number for a flas=
her I could get at the local car part shop, problem solved.
Greg LemonTR250
On Sun, May 11, 2025, 10:59=E2=80=AFAM dave northrup <[email-masked]> wro=
te:

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cent in front.&nbsp; My TR8 is running LED's all around but the dash indica=
tors work completely differently.</div><div><br></div><div class=3D"ydp655c=
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                        On Sunday, May 11, 2025 at 12:41:38 PM CDT, Greg Le=
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                <div><div id=3D"ydpb4924e72yiv1063092966"><div><div>I belie=
ve I am running rear LEDs and front incandescents for my turn signals too, =
as well as a LED for my blinker indicator in the dash (so I can see it blin=
king in the sun).<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>They electronics all se=
em to play better together with a couple incandescents in the loop, and I c=
an track what is going on on in front of me better then behind, so the brig=
hter rear lights make sense.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Will j=
ust add that Randall (TR3Driver) was a whiz at this stuff, and if you ever =
had an electrical problem he had a fix.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>=
<div>Many years ago I had a turn signal <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://pr=
oblem.with.my" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">problem.with.my</a> Ford =
Ranger, the Ford Ranger forum was no help whatsoever, Randall gave me a par=
t number for a flasher I could get at the local car part shop, problem solv=
ed.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Greg Lemon</div><div>TR250</div=
></div><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"ydpb4924e72yiv1063092966gmail_quote=
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63092966yqt04725" class=3D"ydpb4924e72yiv1063092966yqt9853990452"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydpb4924e72yiv1063092966gmail_attr">On Sun, May 11, 2025,=
 10:59=E2=80=AFAM dave northrup &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:dave@r=
anteer.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wro=
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<p class=3D"ydpb4924e72yiv1063092966MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.=
0pt;">This makes no sense to me.&nbsp; Apparently in the last few weeks I r=
eplaced the front bulbs with LEDs.&nbsp; The rear already had them.<u></u><=
u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"ydpb4924e72yiv1063092966MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.=
0pt;"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"ydpb4924e72yiv1063092966MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.=
0pt;">Replacing the front bulbs with analog bulbs fixed the problem, and, a=
s a bonus, the green trafficator light is now working.&nbsp; I haven=E2=80=
=99t seen that for years.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"ydpb4924e72yiv1063092966MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.=
0pt;"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"ydpb4924e72yiv1063092966MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.=
0pt;">Now the blinkers work as they should.&nbsp;
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I have all LEDs on my TR6 including headlights and dash.  I bought most of
the bulbs from Litezupp and some from Amazon.  I also bought 2 LED flashers
(turn and hazard) from LiteZupp and everything works as it should.  I'm
very happy with the outcome.

Brad
72 TR6

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> As I said before.  the incandescent bulbs provide a ballast, extra
> resistance on the circuit, that stops the bleed through the trafficator
> indicator to the other bulbs.  Extra bonus, the front bulbs may light mor=
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> brightly since they can draw more - mine did.
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> northrup <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 11, 2025 8:37 AM
> *To:* [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* [TR] 1972 Triumph TR6 - blinker problem
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I have all LEDs on my TR6 including headlights and dash.=
=C2=A0 I bought most of the bulbs from Litezupp and some from Amazon.=C2=A0=
 I also bought 2 LED flashers (turn and hazard) from LiteZupp and everythin=
g works=C2=A0as it should.=C2=A0 I&#39;m very happy with the outcome.<div><=
br></div><div>Brad</div><div>72 TR6</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, May =
11, 2025 at 1:35=E2=80=AFPM Peter Arakelian &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:peterara@=
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As I said before.=C2=A0 the incandescent bulbs provide a ballast, extra res=
istance on the circuit, that stops the bleed through the trafficator indica=
tor to the other bulbs.=C2=A0 Extra bonus, the front bulbs may light more b=
rightly since they can draw more - mine did.</div>
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&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]<=
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 11, 2025 8:37 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">tri=
[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
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<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">This makes no sense to me.=C2=A0 Apparent=
ly in the last few weeks I replaced the front bulbs with LEDs.=C2=A0 The re=
ar already had them.</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">=C2=A0</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">Replacing the front bulbs with analog bul=
bs fixed the problem, and, as a bonus, the green trafficator light is now w=
orking.=C2=A0 I haven=E2=80=99t seen that for years.</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">=C2=A0</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">Now the blinkers work as they should.=C2=
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On to the TR3A lights:

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I put LED in front driving/turn signal lights, and the rear brake lights =
and rear turn signal lights.

It worked great for several years.

Eventually, nothing flashed, and the front driving/turn signal lights =
would sort of lightly glow/flicker all the time when the key was on. The =
rears may have done that also, but with the red lenses, I could not see =
anything in the daylight hours.

I replace the electronic flasher unit, and everything worked for a few =
days. Then it was back to nothing lashed and the front light s sort of =
glowing again.

I assumed the electronic flasher unit =E2=80=9Cblew,=E2=80=9D and that =
somewhere in the system was a short. But with a new wiring harness, I =
thought that unlikely.

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Should I try replacing the front LED bulbs with incandescent?

As TR3 people know, it is a pain getting the lenses back on in the =
rubber holders.

=20

Thanks.

=20

p.s. Greg is spot on about Randall. His advice here and on British Car =
Forum, helped me a lot when I first bought my TR3 and was getting it =
back to driving condition.

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From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Greg Lemon
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2025 12:06 PM
To: dave northrup <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] 1972 Triumph TR6 - blinker problem

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I believe I am running rear LEDs and front incandescents for my turn =
signals too, as well as a LED for my blinker indicator in the dash (so I =
can see it blinking in the sun).

=20

They electronics all seem to play better together with a couple =
incandescents in the loop, and I can track what is going on on in front =
of me better then behind, so the brighter rear lights make sense.

=20

Will just add that Randall (TR3Driver) was a whiz at this stuff, and if =
you ever had an electrical problem he had a fix.

=20

Many years ago I had a turn signal problem.with.my =
<http://problem.with.my>  Ford Ranger, the Ford Ranger forum was no help =
whatsoever, Randall gave me a part number for a flasher I could get at =
the local car part shop, problem solved.

=20

Greg Lemon

TR250

=20

On Sun, May 11, 2025, 10:59=E2=80=AFAM dave northrup <[email-masked] =

This makes no sense to me.  Apparently in the last few weeks I replaced =
the front bulbs with LEDs.  The rear already had them.

=20

Replacing the front bulbs with analog bulbs fixed the problem, and, as a =
bonus, the green trafficator light is now working.  I haven=E2=80=99t =
seen that for years.

=20

Now the blinkers work as they should. =20

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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>On to the TR3A =
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I put LED in =
front driving/turn signal lights, and the rear brake lights and rear =
turn signal lights.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>It worked =
great for several years.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Eventually, =
nothing flashed, and the front driving/turn signal lights would sort of =
lightly glow/flicker all the time when the key was on. The rears may =
have done that also, but with the red lenses, I could not see anything =
in the daylight hours.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I replace the =
electronic flasher unit, and everything worked for a few days. Then it =
was back to nothing lashed and the front light s sort of glowing =
again.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I assumed the =
electronic flasher unit =E2=80=9Cblew,=E2=80=9D and that somewhere in =
the system was a short. But with a new wiring harness, I thought that =
unlikely.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Should I try =
replacing the front LED bulbs with incandescent?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>As TR3 people =
know, it is a pain getting the lenses back on in the rubber =
holders.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Thanks.<o:p></o=
:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>p.s. Greg is =
spot on about Randall. His advice here and on British Car Forum, helped =
me a lot when I first bought my TR3 and was getting it back to driving =
condition.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
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Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Greg Lemon<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 11, 2025 12:06 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> dave northrup &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] 1972 Triumph TR6 - =
blinker problem<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
believe I am running rear LEDs and front incandescents for my turn =
signals too, as well as a LED for my blinker indicator in the dash (so I =
can see it blinking in the sun).<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>They electronics all seem to play better together with =
a couple incandescents in the loop, and I can track what is going on on =
in front of me better then behind, so the brighter rear lights make =
sense.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Will just add that Randall (TR3Driver) was a whiz at =
this stuff, and if you ever had an electrical problem he had a =
fix.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Many years ago I had a turn signal <a =
href=3D"http://problem.with.my">problem.with.my</a> Ford Ranger, the =
Ford Ranger forum was no help whatsoever, Randall gave me a part number =
for a flasher I could get at the local car part shop, problem =
solved.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Greg Lemon<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>TR250<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Sun, May 11, 2025, 10:59<span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>=E2=80=AF</span>AM dave =
northrup &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>This makes no sense to me.&nbsp; Apparently =
in the last few weeks I replaced the front bulbs with LEDs.&nbsp; The =
rear already had them.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Replacing the front bulbs with analog bulbs =
fixed the problem, and, as a bonus, the green trafficator light is now =
working.&nbsp; I haven=E2=80=99t seen that for =
years.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Now the blinkers work as they should.&nbsp; =
</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
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Hi Brad.=C2=A0 Long time no see.=C2=A0=C2=A0
What did you do for your dash indicator?=C2=A0 Is that the stock bulb?=C2=
=A0 Or did you replace that, too?
Dave=20

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    On Sunday, May 11, 2025 at 03:39:32 PM CDT, Brad Kahler <bkahler1@gmail=
.com> wrote:  =20

 I have all LEDs on my TR6 including headlights and dash.=C2=A0 I bought mo=
st of the bulbs from Litezupp and some from Amazon.=C2=A0 I also bought 2 L=
ED flashers (turn and hazard) from LiteZupp and everything works=C2=A0as it=
 should.=C2=A0 I'm very happy with the outcome.
Brad72 TR6
On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 1:35=E2=80=AFPM Peter Arakelian <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

As I said before.=C2=A0 the incandescent bulbs provide a ballast, extra res=
istance on the circuit, that stops the bleed through the trafficator indica=
tor to the other bulbs.=C2=A0 Extra bonus, the front bulbs may light more b=
rightly since they can draw more - mine did.From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounce=
[email-masked]> on behalf of dave northrup <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2025 8:37 AM
To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Subject: [TR] 1972 Triumph TR6 - blinker problem=C2=A0
This makes no sense to me.=C2=A0 Apparently in the last few weeks I replace=
d the front bulbs with LEDs.=C2=A0 The rear already had them.

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

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@gmail.com

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</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" dat=
a-setdir=3D"false">What did you do for your dash indicator?&nbsp; Is that t=
he stock bulb?&nbsp; Or did you replace that, too?</div><div><br></div><div=
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                        On Sunday, May 11, 2025 at 03:39:32 PM CDT, Brad Ka=
hler &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                </div><div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica=
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                <div><br></div><div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp72ebaba2yiv4451081878"><div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">I have all LEDs on my TR6 including headlights and dash.&nbsp; I bough=
t most of the bulbs from Litezupp and some from Amazon.&nbsp; I also bought=
 2 LED flashers (turn and hazard) from LiteZupp and everything works&nbsp;a=
s it should.&nbsp; I'm very happy with the outcome.<div><br clear=3D"none">=
</div><div>Brad</div><div>72 TR6</div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div class=
=3D"ydp72ebaba2yiv4451081878gmail_quote ydp72ebaba2yiv4451081878gmail_quote=
_container"><div id=3D"ydp72ebaba2yiv4451081878yqt64512" class=3D"ydp72ebab=
a2yiv4451081878yqt1461464803"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydp72ebaba2yiv44510=
81878gmail_attr">On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 1:35=E2=80=AFPM Peter Arakelian &l=
t;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" targe=
t=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><block=
quote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,2=
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or:rgb(0,0,0);">
As I said before.&nbsp; the incandescent bulbs provide a ballast, extra res=
istance on the circuit, that stops the bleed through the trafficator indica=
tor to the other bulbs.&nbsp; Extra bonus, the front bulbs may light more b=
rightly since they can draw more - mine did.</div>
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v>
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yFwdMsg"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt;" color=
=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Triumphs &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:tri=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">triumphs-b=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of dave northrup &lt;<a shape=3D"re=
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<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;">This makes no sense to me.&nbsp; Apparen=
tly in the last few weeks I replaced the front bulbs with LEDs.&nbsp; The r=
ear already had them.</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;">Replacing the front bulbs with analog bu=
lbs fixed the problem, and, as a bonus, the green trafficator light is now =
working.&nbsp; I haven=E2=80=99t seen that for years.</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;">Now the blinkers work as they should.&nb=
sp;
</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;">&nbsp;</span></p>
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Hi Dave, time flies when you're having fun :)

I bought LiteZupp's LED kit and it included LEDs for the dash.  It also
included what they called a steering diode which are 2 diodes connected
back to back to back where one connects to each turn signal wire and the
common between them connects to the dash turn LED.  I don't remember why
but I did replace some of the dash LEDs that they provided.  Overall I'm
quite happy with the package.  If I remember correctly I even used an LED
for the alternator but I'm getting old and my memory is failing me!

Brad

On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 4:49=E2=80=AFPM DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> w=
rote:

> Hi Brad.  Long time no see.
>
> What did you do for your dash indicator?  Is that the stock bulb?  Or did
> you replace that, too?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, May 11, 2025 at 03:39:32 PM CDT, Brad Kahler <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
> I have all LEDs on my TR6 including headlights and dash.  I bought most o=
f
> the bulbs from Litezupp and some from Amazon.  I also bought 2 LED flashe=
rs
> On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 1:35=E2=80=AFPM Peter Arakelian <[email-masked]=
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Dave, time flies when you&#39;re havin=
g fun :)</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div>I bought LiteZupp&#39;s LED k=
it and it included LEDs for the dash.=C2=A0 It also included what they call=
ed a steering diode which are 2 diodes connected back to back to back where=
 one connects to each turn signal wire and the common between them connects=
 to the dash turn LED.=C2=A0 I don&#39;t remember why but I did replace som=
e of the dash LEDs that they provided.=C2=A0 Overall I&#39;m quite happy wi=
th the package.=C2=A0 If I remember correctly I even used an LED for the al=
ternator but I&#39;m getting old and my memory is failing me!</div><div><br=
></div><div>Brad</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container">=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 4:49=E2=80=AF=
PM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
m</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"=
><div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px">=
<div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Brad.=C2=A0 Long time no see.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">What did you do for your dash indi=
cator?=C2=A0 Is that the stock bulb?=C2=A0 Or did you replace that, too?</d=
iv><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"color:black;font-style:normal;font-siz=
e-adjust:none;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12pt;line-he=
ight:normal;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><div style=3D"color:bla=
ck;font-style:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:=
normal;font-size:12pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-s=
erif"><div><font size=3D"4">Dave <br></font></div><div><span style=3D"font-=
size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black"><br></span></div><br></div></=
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                        On Sunday, May 11, 2025 at 03:39:32 PM CDT, Brad Ka=
hler &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">bkahler1@g=
mail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
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                <div><br></div><div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"m_-3545360689615348062ydp72ebaba2yiv4451081=
878"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">I have all LEDs on my TR6 including headlights a=
nd dash.=C2=A0 I bought most of the bulbs from Litezupp and some from Amazo=
n.=C2=A0 I also bought 2 LED flashers (turn and hazard) from LiteZupp and e=
verything works=C2=A0as it should.=C2=A0 I&#39;m very happy with the outcom=
e.<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Brad</div><div>72 TR6</div></div><br c=
lear=3D"none"><div><div id=3D"m_-3545360689615348062ydp72ebaba2yiv445108187=
8yqt64512"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 1:35=E2=80=AFPM Peter A=
rakelian &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofo=
llow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><=
/div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
As I said before.=C2=A0 the incandescent bulbs provide a ballast, extra res=
istance on the circuit, that stops the bleed through the trafficator indica=
tor to the other bulbs.=C2=A0 Extra bonus, the front bulbs may light more b=
rightly since they can draw more - mine did.</div>
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5123appendonsend"></div>
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t" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of dave north=
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OK.=C2=A0 That makes sense.=C2=A0 It changes completely how the dash indica=
tor works and makes it not dependent on voltage drops, etc in the various b=
ulbs.=C2=A0 So the dash indicator has an extra ground wire then?
Dave=20

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 Hi Dave, time flies when you're having fun :)
I bought LiteZupp's LED kit and it included LEDs for the dash.=C2=A0 It als=
o included what they called a steering diode which are 2 diodes connected b=
ack to back to back where one connects to each turn signal wire and the com=
mon between them connects to the dash turn LED.=C2=A0 I don't remember why =
but I did replace some of the dash LEDs that they provided.=C2=A0 Overall I=
'm quite happy with the package.=C2=A0 If I remember correctly I even used =
an LED for the alternator but I'm getting old and my memory is failing me!
Brad
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=3D"font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">OK.&nbsp; That makes sense.&nbsp; It changes=
 completely how the dash indicator works and makes it not dependent on volt=
age drops, etc in the various bulbs.&nbsp; So the dash indicator has an ext=
ra ground wire then?</div><div><br></div><div class=3D"ydpa3ccdae5signature=
"><div style=3D"color: black; font-style: normal; font-size-adjust: none; f=
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                        On Sunday, May 11, 2025 at 06:01:09 PM CDT, Brad Ka=
hler &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;border-left: 1px solid #cc=
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                <div><br></div><div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp549f9850yiv8363683357"><div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Dave, time flies when you're having fun :)</div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>I bought LiteZupp's LED kit an=
d it included LEDs for the dash.&nbsp; It also included what they called a =
steering diode which are 2 diodes connected back to back to back where one =
connects to each turn signal wire and the common between them connects to t=
he dash turn LED.&nbsp; I don't remember why but I did replace some of the =
dash LEDs that they provided.&nbsp; Overall I'm quite happy with the packag=
e.&nbsp; If I remember correctly I even used an LED for the alternator but =
I'm getting old and my memory is failing me!</div><div><br clear=3D"none"><=
/div><div>Brad</div><br clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"ydp549f9850yiv8363683357y=
qt25177" class=3D"ydp549f9850yiv8363683357yqt3152396384"><div class=3D"ydp5=
49f9850yiv8363683357gmail_quote ydp549f9850yiv8363683357gmail_quote_contain=
er"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydp549f9850yiv8363683357gmail_attr">On Sun, M=
ay 11, 2025 at 4:49=E2=80=AFPM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener">dav=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote style=3D=
"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-le=
ft:1ex;" class=3D"ydp549f9850yiv8363683357gmail_quote"><div><div style=3D"f=
ont-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">Hi Brad.&nbsp; Long time no see.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br =
clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">What did you do for your dash indicat=
or?&nbsp; Is that the stock bulb?&nbsp; Or did you replace that, too?</div>=
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><div style=3D"color:black;font-style:nor=
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                        On Sunday, May 11, 2025 at 03:39:32 PM CDT, Brad Ka=
hler &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bl=
ank" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydp549f9850yiv8363683357m_-3545360689615348=
062ydp72ebaba2yiv4451081878"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">I have all LEDs on my TR=
6 including headlights and dash.&nbsp; I bought most of the bulbs from Lite=
zupp and some from Amazon.&nbsp; I also bought 2 LED flashers (turn and haz=
ard) from LiteZupp and everything works&nbsp;as it should.&nbsp; I'm very h=
appy with the outcome.<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Brad</div><div>72 =
TR6</div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div><div id=3D"ydp549f9850yiv8363683357m=
_-3545360689615348062ydp72ebaba2yiv4451081878yqt64512"><div dir=3D"ltr">On =
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As I said before.&nbsp; the incandescent bulbs provide a ballast, extra res=
istance on the circuit, that stops the bleed through the trafficator indica=
tor to the other bulbs.&nbsp; Extra bonus, the front bulbs may light more b=
rightly since they can draw more - mine did.</div>
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Yes, there is an extra ground wire.  I've attached my markup for how it's
wired.

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rote:

> OK.  That makes sense.  It changes completely how the dash indicator work=
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> and makes it not dependent on voltage drops, etc in the various bulbs.  S=
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> the dash indicator has an extra ground wire then?
>
> Dave
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>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Yes, there is an extra ground wire.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve at=
tached my markup for how it&#39;s wired.=C2=A0 <br></div><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On=
 Sun, May 11, 2025 at 7:34=E2=80=AFPM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:da=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid=
 rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial,He=
lvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">OK.=C2=A0 That mak=
es sense.=C2=A0 It changes completely how the dash indicator works and make=
s it not dependent on voltage drops, etc in the various bulbs.=C2=A0 So the=
 dash indicator has an extra ground wire then?</div><div><br></div><div><di=
v style=3D"color:black;font-style:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-weight:=
normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Ar=
ial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><div style=3D"color:black;font-style:normal;font-=
size-adjust:none;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12pt;line=
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                        On Sunday, May 11, 2025 at 06:01:09 PM CDT, Brad Ka=
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mail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
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Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42);border-left:1=
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                <div><div id=3D"m_-5577941345732419377ydp549f9850yiv8363683=
357"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Dave, time flies when you&#3=
9;re having fun :)</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>I bo=
ught LiteZupp&#39;s LED kit and it included LEDs for the dash.=C2=A0 It als=
o included what they called a steering diode which are 2 diodes connected b=
ack to back to back where one connects to each turn signal wire and the com=
mon between them connects to the dash turn LED.=C2=A0 I don&#39;t remember =
why but I did replace some of the dash LEDs that they provided.=C2=A0 Overa=
ll I&#39;m quite happy with the package.=C2=A0 If I remember correctly I ev=
en used an LED for the alternator but I&#39;m getting old and my memory is =
failing me!</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Brad</div><br clear=3D"=
none"><div id=3D"m_-5577941345732419377ydp549f9850yiv8363683357yqt25177"><d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 4:49=E2=80=AFPM DAVID MASSEY &l=
t;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer no=
opener" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px soli=
d rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial,H=
elvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Brad.=C2=A0 Lo=
ng time no see.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">What did you do for your dash indicator?=C2=A0 Is that the=
 stock bulb?=C2=A0 Or did you replace that, too?</div><div><br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><div><div style=3D"color:black;font-style:normal;font-size-adjust:=
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al;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><div style=3D"color:black;font-s=
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nt-size:12pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><di=
v><font size=3D"4">Dave <br clear=3D"none"></font></div><div><span style=3D=
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                        On Sunday, May 11, 2025 at 03:39:32 PM CDT, Brad Ka=
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rrer noopener" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
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357m_-3545360689615348062ydp72ebaba2yiv4451081878"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">I =
have all LEDs on my TR6 including headlights and dash.=C2=A0 I bought most =
of the bulbs from Litezupp and some from Amazon.=C2=A0 I also bought 2 LED =
flashers (turn and hazard) from LiteZupp and everything works=C2=A0as it sh=
ould.=C2=A0 I&#39;m very happy with the outcome.<div><br clear=3D"none"></d=
iv><div>Brad</div><div>72 TR6</div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div><div id=3D=
"m_-5577941345732419377ydp549f9850yiv8363683357m_-3545360689615348062ydp72e=
baba2yiv4451081878yqt64512"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 1:35=
=E2=80=AFPM Peter Arakelian &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:peterara@m=
sn.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
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As I said before.=C2=A0 the incandescent bulbs provide a ballast, extra res=
istance on the circuit, that stops the bleed through the trafficator indica=
tor to the other bulbs.=C2=A0 Extra bonus, the front bulbs may light more b=
rightly since they can draw more - mine did.</div>
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It's good that you documented your changes.=C2=A0 I have tried to troublesh=
oot wiring issues where someone has modified the wiring.=C2=A0 All bets are=
 off when that happens.I did some major wiring modifications to my TR6 but =
I fully documented them.
Dave=20

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 Yes, there is an extra ground wire.=C2=A0 I've attached my markup for how =
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p; I have tried to troubleshoot wiring issues where someone has modified th=
e wiring.&nbsp; All bets are off when that happens.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" d=
ata-setdir=3D"false">I did some major wiring modifications to my TR6 but I =
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I would start by doublechecking the wiring at the lamp holders and make sur=
e there are no stray wires touching ground where they shouldn't be.

Then check where the metal tabs that secure the wiring harness to the body =
and make sure the sharp edges aren't cutting into the insulation.=C2=A0 The=
 factory put plastic sleeves over these tabs but they become lost quickly.
I don't know how robust these electronic flashers are but there is a standa=
rd to which automotive electronics are tested and expected to survive.=C2=
=A0 Something called load dump voltage surges.=C2=A0 This is where an elect=
rical load switches off and generates a large, typically negative-going vol=
tage spike.=C2=A0 This can be when an electric fan switches off.=C2=A0 The =
biggest load on a TR3 (or just about any car) is the starter motor.=C2=A0 T=
he starter and solenoid on a TR3 may generate a voltage spike that is destr=
oying the electronic flasher.=C2=A0 I would try an MOV (Metal Oxide Varisto=
r) across the the power input to the flasher and ground.=C2=A0 Something li=
ke this:https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/bourns-inc/MOV-10D270KTR=
/2407604
I also like to add a capacitor that will slow the rise time of the spike he=
lping the varistor do its work.=C2=A0 Something like this:https://www.digik=
ey.com/en/products/detail/kemet/R82DC3470AA60J/2839160=C2=A0
Dave=20

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    On Sunday, May 11, 2025 at 03:39:32 PM CDT, [email-masked] <=
[email-masked]> wrote:  =20

=20
On to the TR3A lights:

 =C2=A0

I put LED in front driving/turn signal lights, and the rear brake lights an=
d rear turn signal lights.

Eventually, nothing flashed, and the front driving/turn signal lights would=
 sort of lightly glow/flicker all the time when the key was on. The rears m=
ay have done that also, but with the red lenses, I could not see anything i=
n the daylight hours.

I replace the electronic flasher unit, and everything worked for a few days=
. Then it was back to nothing lashed and the front light s sort of glowing =
again.

I assumed the electronic flasher unit =E2=80=9Cblew,=E2=80=9D and that some=
where in the system was a short. But with a new wiring harness, I thought t=
hat unlikely.

 =C2=A0

As TR3 people know, it is a pain getting the lenses back on in the rubber h=
olders.

 =C2=A0

Thanks.

 =C2=A0

p.s. Greg is spot on about Randall. His advice here and on British Car Foru=
m, helped me a lot when I first bought my TR3 and was getting it back to dr=
iving condition.

 =C2=A0

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I believe I am running rear LEDs and front incandescents for my turn signal=
s too, as well as a LED for my blinker indicator in the dash (so I can see =
it blinking in the sun).

 =C2=A0

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Greg Lemon

TR250

 =C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Now the blinkers work as they should.=C2=A0=20

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mail.com

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=3D"font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I would start by doublechecking the wiring a=
t the lamp holders and make sure there are no stray wires touching ground w=
here they shouldn't be.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-s=
etdir=3D"false">Then check where the metal tabs that secure the wiring harn=
ess to the body and make sure the sharp edges aren't cutting into the insul=
ation.&nbsp; The factory put plastic sleeves over these tabs but they becom=
e lost quickly.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I don't know how robust these electronic =
flashers are but there is a standard to which automotive electronics are te=
sted and expected to survive.&nbsp; Something called load dump voltage surg=
es.&nbsp; This is where an electrical load switches off and generates a lar=
ge, typically negative-going voltage spike.&nbsp; This can be when an elect=
ric fan switches off.&nbsp; The biggest load on a TR3 (or just about any ca=
r) is the starter motor.&nbsp; The starter and solenoid on a TR3 may genera=
te a voltage spike that is destroying the electronic flasher.&nbsp; I would=
 try an MOV (Metal Oxide Varistor) across the the power input to the flashe=
r and ground.&nbsp; Something like this:</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=
=3D"false"><a href=3D"https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/bourns-inc=
/MOV-10D270KTR/2407604" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">https://www.digi=
key.com/en/products/detail/bourns-inc/MOV-10D270KTR/2407604</a></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"=
false">I also like to add a capacitor that will slow the rise time of the s=
pike helping the varistor do its work.&nbsp; Something like this:</div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><a href=3D"https://www.digikey.com/en/pr=
oducts/detail/kemet/R82DC3470AA60J/2839160" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_bla=
nk" style=3D"letter-spacing: -0.02em;">https://www.digikey.com/en/products/=
detail/kemet/R82DC3470AA60J/2839160</a></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=
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                        On Sunday, May 11, 2025 at 03:39:32 PM CDT, rjray.a=
[email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
                    </div>
                </div><div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica=
, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;border-left: 1px solid #cc=
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                <div><div id=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797309"><div><div class=
=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797309WordSection1"><p class=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797=
309MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">On t=
o the TR3A lights:</span></p><p class=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797309MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> &nbsp;</span></p=
><p class=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797309MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11=
.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">I put LED in front driving/turn signal lights=
, and the rear brake lights and rear turn signal lights.</span></p><p class=
=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797309MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font=
-family:sans-serif;">It worked great for several years.</span></p><p class=
=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797309MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font=
-family:sans-serif;">Eventually, nothing flashed, and the front driving/tur=
n signal lights would sort of lightly glow/flicker all the time when the ke=
y was on. The rears may have done that also, but with the red lenses, I cou=
ld not see anything in the daylight hours.</span></p><p class=3D"ydp6dd6893=
9yiv7948797309MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-s=
erif;">I replace the electronic flasher unit, and everything worked for a f=
ew days. Then it was back to nothing lashed and the front light s sort of g=
lowing again.</span></p><p class=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797309MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">I assumed the electron=
ic flasher unit =E2=80=9Cblew,=E2=80=9D and that somewhere in the system wa=
s a short. But with a new wiring harness, I thought that unlikely.</span></=
p><p class=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797309MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
1.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> &nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv=
7948797309MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif=
;">Should I try replacing the front LED bulbs with incandescent?</span></p>=
<p class=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797309MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.=
0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">As TR3 people know, it is a pain getting the l=
enses back on in the rubber holders.</span></p><p class=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv79=
48797309MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"=
> &nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797309MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Thanks.</span></p><p class=
=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797309MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font=
-family:sans-serif;"> &nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797309=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">p.s. Gr=
eg is spot on about Randall. His advice here and on British Car Forum, help=
ed me a lot when I first bought my TR3 and was getting it back to driving c=
ondition.</span></p><p class=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797309MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> &nbsp;</span></p><p class=
=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797309MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font=
-family:sans-serif;"> &nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797309=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> &nbsp;=
</span></p><p class=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797309MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> &nbsp;</span></p><div id=3D"ydp6dd=
68939yiv7948797309yqt92359" class=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797309yqt7771856284"=
><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in=
 0in 0in;"><p class=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797309MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D=
"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> Triumphs &lt;triumphs-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Lemon<br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</=
b> Sunday, May 11, 2025 12:06 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> dave northrup=
 &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc:</b> [email-masked].=
net<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] 1972 Triumph TR6 - blinker p=
roblem</span></p></div><p class=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797309MsoNormal"> &nbs=
p;</p><div><p class=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797309MsoNormal">I believe I am ru=
nning rear LEDs and front incandescents for my turn signals too, as well as=
 a LED for my blinker indicator in the dash (so I can see it blinking in th=
e sun).</p><div><p class=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797309MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><=
/div><div><p class=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797309MsoNormal">They electronics a=
ll seem to play better together with a couple incandescents in the loop, an=
d I can track what is going on on in front of me better then behind, so the=
 brighter rear lights make sense.</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7=
948797309MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797=
309MsoNormal">Will just add that Randall (TR3Driver) was a whiz at this stu=
ff, and if you ever had an electrical problem he had a fix.</p></div><div><=
p class=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797309MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p></div><div><p clas=
s=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797309MsoNormal">Many years ago I had a turn signal =
<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://problem.with.my" rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank">problem.with.my</a> Ford Ranger, the Ford Ranger forum was no h=
elp whatsoever, Randall gave me a part number for a flasher I could get at =
the local car part shop, problem solved.</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp6dd68=
939yiv7948797309MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv=
7948797309MsoNormal">Greg Lemon</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv794=
8797309MsoNormal">TR250</p></div></div><p class=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797309=
MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><div><div><p class=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797309MsoNorm=
al">On Sun, May 11, 2025, 10:59<span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;">=E2=
=80=AF</span>AM dave northrup &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:dave@ran=
teer.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote=
:</p></div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt=
;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;"><div><div><=
p class=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797309MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0=
pt;">This makes no sense to me.&nbsp; Apparently in the last few weeks I re=
placed the front bulbs with LEDs.&nbsp; The rear already had them.</span></=
p><p class=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797309MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
1.0pt;">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797309MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">Replacing the front bulbs with analog bulbs =
fixed the problem, and, as a bonus, the green trafficator light is now work=
ing.&nbsp; I haven=E2=80=99t seen that for years.</span></p><p class=3D"ydp=
6dd68939yiv7948797309MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">&nbsp;</s=
pan></p><p class=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797309MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
size:11.0pt;">Now the blinkers work as they should.&nbsp; </span></p><p cla=
ss=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797309MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">=
&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"ydp6dd68939yiv7948797309MsoNormal"><span style=
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Your level of documenting your mods is on another level compared to mine :)

On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 8:04=E2=80=AFAM DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> w=
rote:

> It's good that you documented your changes.  I have tried to troubleshoot
> wiring issues where someone has modified the wiring.  All bets are off wh=
en
> that happens.
> I did some major wiring modifications to my TR6 but I fully documented
> them.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 12, 2025 at 06:36:56 AM CDT, Brad Kahler <

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Your level of documenting your mods is on another level co=
mpared to mine :)</div><div id=3D"DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br=
><table style=3D"border-top:1px solid #d3d4de"><tr><td style=3D"width:55px;=
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uote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, M=
ay 12, 2025 at 8:04=E2=80=AFAM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave1mass=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica=
,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">It&#39;s good that you do=
cumented your changes.=C2=A0 I have tried to troubleshoot wiring issues whe=
re someone has modified the wiring.=C2=A0 All bets are off when that happen=
s.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">I did some major wiring modifications to my TR6 bu=
t I fully documented them.</div><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"color:bla=
ck;font-style:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:=
normal;font-size:12pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-s=
erif"><div style=3D"color:black;font-style:normal;font-size-adjust:none;fon=
t-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12pt;line-height:normal;font-=
family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><div><font size=3D"4">Dave <br></font></=
div><div><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">=
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                        On Monday, May 12, 2025 at 06:36:56 AM CDT, Brad Ka=
hler &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">bkahler1@g=
mail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"m_-7343505187122760129ydpc3f60408yiv8714504=
290"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Yes, there is an extra ground wire.=C2=A0 I&#39;=
ve attached my markup for how it&#39;s wired.=C2=A0</div><div id=3D"m_-7343=
505187122760129ydpc3f60408yiv8714504290yqt75463"><div><blockquote style=3D"=
margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-lef=
t:1ex"><div><div id=3D"m_-7343505187122760129ydpc3f60408yiv8714504290m_-557=
7941345732419377ydp549f9850yahoo_quoted_7571157537"><div style=3D"font-fami=
ly:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div style=3D"font-family:Hel=
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d=3D"m_-7343505187122760129ydpc3f60408yiv8714504290m_-5577941345732419377yd=
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That's what I did for a living before I retired.
Dave=20

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.com> wrote:  =20

 Your level of documenting your mods is on another level compared to mine :=
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f when that happens.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">I did some major wiring modifica=
tions to my TR6 but I fully documented them.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"><=
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