Subject: Re: [TR] TR Rear Crank Seal Rope?

From: "Notakitcar" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2025 15:29:54 -0600

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I used the one from Joe Alexander, still leaked a little but tolerable, =
followed Kas Kastner=E2=80=99s book.  If anyone needs a mandrel, you can =
have mine for the shipping.

Bill

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From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
Dave MacKay
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2025 2:54 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] TR Rear Crank Seal Rope?

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Which after-market kit did you use in your TR3A?

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I installed one long (>15 years) ago but it wasn=E2=80=99t effective. =
I=E2=80=99d be interested in one known to work.

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TIA

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Dave MacKay

1960 TR3A s/n 68639L

near Toronto, Canada

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>Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2025 16:45:44 -0600

>Subject: Re: [TR] TR Rear Crank Seal Rope?

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>Carl,

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>I was not aware of the ropes used on other British cars, other than my =
Austin-Healey, which still originally leaked oil at the rear crank area.

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>For both my TR3a and Healey, I installed the after-marked rear seal =
kits, which eliminated all oil leaks from the rear crankshaft area.

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class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I used the one =
from Joe Alexander, still leaked a little but tolerable, followed Kas =
Kastner=E2=80=99s book.=C2=A0 If anyone needs a mandrel, you can have =
mine for the shipping.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Bill<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p=
></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none'>From:</span=
></b><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none'> Triumphs =
[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave =
MacKay<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 10, 2025 2:54 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR Rear Crank Seal =
Rope?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>Which after-market kit did you use in your =
TR3A?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>I installed one long (&gt;15 years) ago but it =
wasn=E2=80=99t effective. I=E2=80=99d be interested in one known to =
work.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>TIA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>Dave MacKay<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-CA>1960 TR3A s/n =
68639L<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>near Toronto, Canada<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-CA>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-CA>&gt;Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2025 =
16:45:44 -0600<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>&gt;From: &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>&gt;To: &quot;'Carl Sereda'&quot; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:carlsereda@aolcom">[email-masked]</a>&gt;,&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<o=
:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>&gt;Subject: Re: [TR] TR Rear Crank Seal =
Rope?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>&gt;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>&gt;Carl,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>&gt;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-CA>&gt;I was not aware of the ropes =
used on other British cars, other than my Austin-Healey, which still =
originally leaked oil at the rear crank area.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>&gt;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-CA>&gt;For both my TR3a and Healey, =
I installed the after-marked rear seal kits, which eliminated all oil =
leaks from the rear crankshaft area.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>
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I bought the rear seal kit from The Roadster Factory.

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Moss may carry the same kit.

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From: Dave MacKay <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2025 2:54 PM
To: [email-masked]
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] TR Rear Crank Seal Rope?

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TIA

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Dave MacKay

1960 TR3A s/n 68639L

near Toronto, Canada

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I bought the rear seal kit from =
The Roadster Factory.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Moss =
may carry the same kit.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div=
><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt =
0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none'>From:</span=
></b><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none'> Dave =
MacKay &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 10, =
2025 2:54 PM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Cc:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR Rear Crank Seal =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;,&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a =
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From: Frank Fisher <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2025 01:19:25 +0000 (UTC)

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 there are 2 aftermarket kits around.=C2=A0one requires the crank to be mac=
hined the other not.i have done 2 that required the crank be machined.i fou=
nd in both cases that i needed to shim something. te new scroll seal was in=
terfering with the flywheel. im thinking i had to shim the flywheel with a =
single washer. just be sure you check that things turn ok with the transmis=
sion mounted before you put it in the car. yes i put it in the car the firs=
t time without checking.its been more that 10 years since i did those build=
s so forgive the memory.the other thing i did when assembling the scroll an=
d seal was:1) make sure the scroll and rubber seal are very clean by wiping=
 with alcohol or similar.2) then i wiped the crankshaft at the point of tou=
ching the seal with oil on my fingers. just enough to leave a thin film.=C2=
=A03) where the rubber seal comes together i applied some RTV silicone adhe=
sive to the joint. its ok if it oozes a little as the oil on the crank will=
 not allow it to stick to the crank.4) once assembled let it sit for about =
a week to let the sealant fully cure. do not turn the crank, do not move an=
y parts.having done this method twice i have had what id like to say is no =
leak, but a small stain occasionally has been experienced.

=C2=A0on the seal that does not require machining it was a lot better and l=
ess work. cant remember if i had interference with that one.
best of luck
Frank
    On Monday, February 10, 2025 at 03:21:31 PM PST, <rjray.architect@gmail=
.com> wrote: =20
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I bought the rear seal kit from The Roadster Factory.

 =C2=A0

 =C2=A0

 =C2=A0

 =C2=A0

 =C2=A0

=C2=A0

I installed one long (>15 years) ago but it wasn=E2=80=99t effective. I=E2=
=80=99d be interested in one known to work.

=C2=A0

TIA

=C2=A0

Dave MacKay

1960 TR3A s/n 68639L

near Toronto, Canada

=C2=A0

>From: <[email-masked]>

>To: "'Carl Sereda'" <[email-masked]>,=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <[email-masked]>

>=C2=A0

>=C2=A0

>I was not aware of the ropes used on other British cars, other than my Aus=
tin-Healey, which still originally leaked oil at the rear crank area.

>=C2=A0

>For both my TR3a and Healey, I installed the after-marked rear seal kits, =
which eliminated all oil leaks from the rear crankshaft area.

=C2=A0

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs=C2=A0 http://www.team.net/a=
rchive

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<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydp98b17fadyahoo-style-wrap" style=
=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px=
;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">there are 2 aftermarket kits=
 around.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">one requires the=
 crank to be machined the other not.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"f=
alse">i have done 2 that required the crank be machined.</div><div dir=3D"l=
tr" data-setdir=3D"false">i found in both cases that i needed to shim somet=
hing. te new scroll seal was interfering with the flywheel. im thinking i h=
ad to shim the flywheel with a single washer. just be sure you check that t=
hings turn ok with the transmission mounted before you put it in the car. y=
es i put it in the car the first time without checking.</div><div dir=3D"lt=
r" data-setdir=3D"false">its been more that 10 years since i did those buil=
ds so forgive the memory.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">the o=
ther thing i did when assembling the scroll and seal was:</div><div dir=3D"=
ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">1) make sure the scroll and rubber seal are very=
 clean by wiping with alcohol or similar.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=
=3D"false">2) then i wiped the crankshaft at the point of touching the seal=
 with oil on my fingers. just enough to leave a thin film.</div><div dir=3D=
"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">&nbsp;3) where the rubber seal comes together i=
 applied some RTV silicone adhesive to the joint. its ok if it oozes a litt=
le as the oil on the crank will not allow it to stick to the crank.</div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">4) once assembled let it sit for about=
 a week to let the sealant fully cure. do not turn the crank, do not move a=
ny parts.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">having done this meth=
od twice i have had what id like to say is no leak, but a small stain occas=
ionally has been experienced.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br>&nbsp;on the seal that =
does not require machining it was a lot better and less work. cant remember=
 if i had interference with that one.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"=
false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">best of luck</div><=
div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdi=
r=3D"false">Frank</div><div><br></div>
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ans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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                <div>
                        On Monday, February 10, 2025 at 03:21:31 PM PST,  &=
lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                    <div><br></div>
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                <div><div id=3D"ydp319e8beeyiv2521898003"><div><div class=
=3D"ydp319e8beeyiv2521898003WordSection1"><p class=3D"ydp319e8beeyiv2521898=
003MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;">I bought the rear sea=
l kit from The Roadster Factory.</span></p><p class=3D"ydp319e8beeyiv252189=
8003MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;"> &nbsp;</span></p><p=
 class=3D"ydp319e8beeyiv2521898003MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:san=
s-serif;">Moss may carry the same kit.</span></p><p class=3D"ydp319e8beeyiv=
2521898003MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;"> &nbsp;</span>=
</p><p class=3D"ydp319e8beeyiv2521898003MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-fami=
ly:sans-serif;"> &nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"ydp319e8beeyiv2521898003MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;"> &nbsp;</span></p><div id=3D"=
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an style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily:sans-serif;"> Dave MacKay &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br clear=3D"none">=
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 10, 2025 2:54 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b>=
 [email-masked]<br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc:</b> rjray.architect@gmail=
.com<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR Rear Crank Seal Rope?</s=
pan></p></div></div><p class=3D"ydp319e8beeyiv2521898003MsoNormal"> &nbsp;<=
/p><p class=3D"ydp319e8beeyiv2521898003MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">W=
hich after-market kit did you use in your TR3A?</span></p><p class=3D"ydp31=
9e8beeyiv2521898003MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">&nbsp;</span></p><p c=
lass=3D"ydp319e8beeyiv2521898003MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">I instal=
led one long (&gt;15 years) ago but it wasn=E2=80=99t effective. I=E2=80=99=
d be interested in one known to work.</span></p><p class=3D"ydp319e8beeyiv2=
521898003MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"yd=
p319e8beeyiv2521898003MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">TIA</span></p><p c=
lass=3D"ydp319e8beeyiv2521898003MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">&nbsp;</=
span></p><p class=3D"ydp319e8beeyiv2521898003MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN=
-CA">Dave MacKay</span></p><p class=3D"ydp319e8beeyiv2521898003MsoPlainText=
"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">1960 TR3A s/n 68639L</span></p><p class=3D"ydp319e8b=
eeyiv2521898003MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">near Toronto, Canada</spa=
n></p><p class=3D"ydp319e8beeyiv2521898003MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-CA=
">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"ydp319e8beeyiv2521898003MsoPlainText"><span =
lang=3D"EN-CA">&gt;Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2025 16:45:44 -0600</span></p><p class=
=3D"ydp319e8beeyiv2521898003MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">&gt;From: &l=
t;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofoll=
ow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span></p><p class=
=3D"ydp319e8beeyiv2521898003MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">&gt;To: "'Ca=
rl Sereda'" &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D=
"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@au=
tox.team.net</a>&gt;</span></p><p class=3D"ydp319e8beeyiv2521898003MsoPlain=
Text"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">&gt;Subject: Re: [TR] TR Rear Crank Seal Rope?</=
span></p><p class=3D"ydp319e8beeyiv2521898003MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN=
-CA">&gt;&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"ydp319e8beeyiv2521898003MsoPlainText"=
><span lang=3D"EN-CA">&gt;Carl,</span></p><p class=3D"ydp319e8beeyiv2521898=
003MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">&gt;&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"ydp3=
19e8beeyiv2521898003MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">&gt;I was not aware =
of the ropes used on other British cars, other than my Austin-Healey, which=
 still originally leaked oil at the rear crank area.</span></p><p class=3D"=
ydp319e8beeyiv2521898003MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">&gt;&nbsp;</span=
></p><p class=3D"ydp319e8beeyiv2521898003MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"=
>&gt;For both my TR3a and Healey, I installed the after-marked rear seal ki=
ts, which eliminated all oil leaks from the rear crankshaft area.</span></p=
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