Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 18, Issue 4

From: John Finlayson <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2025 15:46:28 -0800

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I uprated the rear springs on my live axle '67 TR4A back in the day and got
the same result described by John, so from personal experience I would nor
recommend it.

John Finlayson

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> If you want a stiffer ride, I?d opt for adjustable dampers. An uprated
> stiffer spring might be too firm. If a rigid axle, stiffer springs
> potentially lead to evermore skittish back ends as well. Don?t ask how I
> know this. WareBe
>
> Jonmac
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> > On 22 Jan 2025, at 20:10, dave northrup <[email-masked]> wrote:
> >
> > I see that Racestorations has uprated rear leaf springs.  Is there a
> company in the US that makes these?
> >
> > I?m not going racing, just want a little stiffer ride.  And not lowered=
,
> either.  Those cars are already low!
> >
> > And is this a good idea?
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> From: John Macartney <[email-masked]>
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> No surprise in the range of opinions you?ve received. Speaking for myself=
,
> I?ve owned and driven many TRs with beam axles ranging from new to fully
> restored and on the average British and European roads. After about two
> hours driving, the harshness of ride slowly became agonisingly painful an=
d
> I had to stop. The cars are fun and I love them, but ride quality on
> sidescreeners and beam axled 4swas, imho, appalling. However, with IRS up
> the arse end, the ride was close to paradise for me, anyway. Hundreds wil=
l
> disagree.
>
> Jonmac
>
> > On 23 Jan 2025, at 23:09, dave northrup <[email-masked]> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Jon.  There are a zillion opinions on this.  from yours, to
> rattle my teeth out, to car handles much better, etc.
> >
> > Thanks for chiming in
> >
> > From: John Macartney <[email-masked]>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2025 3:32 PM
> > To: dave northrup <[email-masked]>
> > Cc: Triumphs <[email-masked]>
> > Subject: Re: [TR] uprated rear leaf springs
> >
> > If you want a stiffer ride, I?d opt for adjustable dampers. An uprated
> stiffer spring might be too firm. If a rigid axle, stiffer springs
> potentially lead to evermore skittish back ends as well. Don?t ask how I
> know this. WareBe
> >
> > Jonmac
> >
> > On 22 Jan 2025, at 20:10, dave northrup <[email-masked]> wrote:
> >
> > I see that Racestorations has uprated rear leaf springs.  Is there a
> company in the US that makes these?
> >
> > I?m not going racing, just want a little stiffer ride.  And not lowered=
,
> either.  Those cars are already low!
> >
> > And is this a good idea?
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I uprated the rear springs on my live axle &#39;67 TR4A ba=
ck in the day and got the same result described by John, so from personal e=
xperience I would nor recommend it.<div><br></div><div>John Finlayson=C2=A0=
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 21:32:06 +0000<br>
From: John Macartney &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
To: dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
Cc: Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] uprated rear leaf springs<br>
com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
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If you want a stiffer ride, I?d opt for adjustable dampers. An uprated stif=
fer spring might be too firm. If a rigid axle, stiffer springs potentially =
lead to evermore skittish back ends as well. Don?t ask how I know this. War=
eBe<br>
<br>
Jonmac<br>
<br>
&gt; On 22 Jan 2025, at 20:10, dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@ran=
teer.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I see that Racestorations has uprated rear leaf springs.=C2=A0 Is ther=
e a company in the US that makes these?<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 <br>
&gt; I?m not going racing, just want a little stiffer ride.=C2=A0 And not l=
owered, either.=C2=A0 Those cars are already low!<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 <br>
&gt; And is this a good idea?<br>
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From: John Macartney &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
To: dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"=
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Subject: Re: [TR] uprated rear leaf springs<br>
com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
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No surprise in the range of opinions you?ve received. Speaking for myself, =
I?ve owned and driven many TRs with beam axles ranging from new to fully re=
stored and on the average British and European roads. After about two hours=
 driving, the harshness of ride slowly became agonisingly painful and I had=
 to stop. The cars are fun and I love them, but ride quality on sidescreene=
rs and beam axled 4swas, imho, appalling. However, with IRS up the arse end=
, the ride was close to paradise for me, anyway. Hundreds will disagree.<br=
<br>
Jonmac<br>
<br>
&gt; On 23 Jan 2025, at 23:09, dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@ran=
teer.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Thanks, Jon.=C2=A0 There are a zillion opinions on this.=C2=A0 from yo=
urs, to rattle my teeth out, to car handles much better, etc.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 <br>
&gt; Thanks for chiming in<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 <br>
&gt; From: John Macartney &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <br>
&gt; Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2025 3:32 PM<br>
&gt; To: dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Cc: Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"=
_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Subject: Re: [TR] uprated rear leaf springs<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 <br>
&gt; If you want a stiffer ride, I?d opt for adjustable dampers. An uprated=
 stiffer spring might be too firm. If a rigid axle, stiffer springs potenti=
ally lead to evermore skittish back ends as well. Don?t ask how I know this=
. WareBe<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 <br>
&gt; Jonmac<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; On 22 Jan 2025, at 20:10, dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@ran=
teer.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I see that Racestorations has uprated rear leaf springs.=C2=A0 Is ther=
e a company in the US that makes these?<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 <br>
&gt; I?m not going racing, just want a little stiffer ride.=C2=A0 And not l=
owered, either.=C2=A0 Those cars are already low!<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 <br>
&gt; And is this a good idea?<br>
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