Subject: Re: [TR] Re Facebook

From: bill beecher <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2024 12:26:10 -0600

Amen John, about to chuck all too!  Got a couple obligations but working steadily on paring things down. 
Bill

“Obstacles are all you see when you take your eyes off the goal”  H. Ford

On Nov 3, 2024, at 4:56 PM, John Macartney <[email-masked]> wrote:

For reasons unknown to me, BookFace closed my account without saying why. To be honest I read so many posts on it covering a plethora of subjects - the majority of which were unsolicited and I’m now SO glad to be rid of the damned thing and I certainly won’t be going there again. This list may not be as heavily trafficked as it was 20 plus years ago but I still prefer it to other web based alternatives that are clunky to navigate and generally rather boring.
But I guess I’ve reached an age where I’m likely to others to be clunky and boring so it evens out all round for everyone.

Heigh-ho

Jonmac
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From: <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2024 15:49:56 -0500

I am shocked John. When dd you become clunky and boring? Did you use OEM parts/enhancements, or were they aftermarket? Were the changes you made reversible, or have you permanently made the adjustment?

Cheers
Keith

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https://keith-stewart.ca/

-----Original Message-----
From: John Macartney <[email-masked]> 
Sent: November 3, 2024 4:51 PM
To: [email-masked]
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: [TR] Re Facebook

Heigh-ho

Jonmac

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From: John Macartney <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2024 22:17:43 +0000

Hi, Keith,

An interesting query appropriate to the day. Only this afternoon, I was driving two grandsons (in teens) and with a same age friend home from school. On the way and stuck in traffic, I was asked if I thought smartphone technology was advantageous to my lifestyle. I said it wasn’t, explaining I only use my phone to make and receive the occasional call or to send/receive the even more occasional text. I don’t use it for anything else and when using my mobility scooter in populated areas I tend to not avoid those who can’t walk anywhere unless they’re glued to a handheld screen and oblivious to everything surrounding them. So I just drive at them because the scooter has outstanding brakes. Twenty plus years ago, I refused to allow my company provided car to be fitted with a car phone because driving in this overcrowded island then demanded total attention at all times. It’s even worse now. My boss and his boss were of the same view so I was ‘protected’ from those who held divergent opinions. Some years later, i had a colleague who never answered his employer provided smartphone if he was driving and would throw it out of the window whenever it rang. He got through a lot of phones in the course of a year until it was decided to give him a telephone credit card instead.
But I’m not totally resistant to technology and spend a lot of time writing on my laptop. In fact, I’ve got my second Life at Triumph book almost ready for publication but I just can’t get my head around the technology provided by Amazon and Kindle. Each time I try, everything goes “tits up” and I manage to blow a memory somewhere.
 Perhaps little Poppy, my three year old grand-daughter could help there? Most kids of almost any age have forgotten more than I’ve ever learned on the cyber tech front so maybe I’ll ask Poppy for her help?

Cheers, John

> On 4 Nov 2024, at 20:49, <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]> wrote:
>

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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2024 23:45:58 +0000

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I am 70 and in IT.  People always say that the young folk know all about co=
mputers and technology.  They don't.   I run circles around them and am con=
stantly amazed at how little they really know

-------- Original message --------
From: John Macartney <[email-masked]>
Date: 11/4/24 4:17 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email-masked]
Cc: dave northrup <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] Re Facebook

Hi, Keith,

An interesting query appropriate to the day. Only this afternoon, I was dri=
ving two grandsons (in teens) and with a same age friend home from school. =
On the way and stuck in traffic, I was asked if I thought smartphone techno=
logy was advantageous to my lifestyle. I said it wasn=92t, explaining I onl=
y use my phone to make and receive the occasional call or to send/receive t=
he even more occasional text. I don=92t use it for anything else and when u=
sing my mobility scooter in populated areas I tend to not avoid those who c=
an=92t walk anywhere unless they=92re glued to a handheld screen and oblivi=
ous to everything surrounding them. So I just drive at them because the sco=
oter has outstanding brakes. Twenty plus years ago, I refused to allow my c=
ompany provided car to be fitted with a car phone because driving in this o=
vercrowded island then demanded total attention at all times. It=92s even w=
orse now. My boss and his boss were of the same view so I was =91protected=
=92 from those who held divergent opinions. Some years later, i had a colle=
ague who never answered his employer provided smartphone if he was driving =
and would throw it out of the window whenever it rang. He got through a lot=
 of phones in the course of a year until it was decided to give him a telep=
hone credit card instead.
But I=92m not totally resistant to technology and spend a lot of time writi=
ng on my laptop. In fact, I=92ve got my second Life at Triumph book almost =
ready for publication but I just can=92t get my head around the technology =
provided by Amazon and Kindle. Each time I try, everything goes =93tits up=
=94 and I manage to blow a memory somewhere.
 Perhaps little Poppy, my three year old grand-daughter could help there? M=
ost kids of almost any age have forgotten more than I=92ve ever learned on =
the cyber tech front so maybe I=92ll ask Poppy for her help?

Cheers, John

> On 4 Nov 2024, at 20:49, <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]> =
wrote:
>
> I am shocked John. When dd you become clunky and boring? Did you use OEM =
parts/enhancements, or were they aftermarket? Were the changes you made rev=
ersible, or have you permanently made the adjustment?
> For reasons unknown to me, BookFace closed my account without saying why.=
 To be honest I read so many posts on it covering a plethora of subjects - =
the majority of which were unsolicited and I=92m now SO glad to be rid of t=
he damned thing and I certainly won=92t be going there again. This list may=
 not be as heavily trafficked as it was 20 plus years ago but I still prefe=
r it to other web based alternatives that are clunky to navigate and genera=
lly rather boring.
> But I guess I=92ve reached an age where I=92m likely to others to be clun=
ky and boring so it evens out all round for everyone.
> Jonmac

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<div dir=3D"auto">I am 70 and in IT.&nbsp; People always say that the young=
 folk know all about computers and technology.&nbsp; They don't.&nbsp; &nbs=
p;I run circles around them and am constantly amazed at how little they rea=
lly know
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<div>-------- Original message --------</div>
<div>From: John Macartney &lt;[email-masked]&gt; </div>
<div>Date: 11/4/24 4:17 PM (GMT-06:00) </div>
<div>To: [email-masked] </div>
<div>Cc: dave northrup &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, [email-masked] </=
div>
<div>Subject: Re: [TR] Re Facebook </div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;">
<div class=3D"PlainText">Hi, Keith,<br>
<br>
An interesting query appropriate to the day. Only this afternoon, I was dri=
ving two grandsons (in teens) and with a same age friend home from school. =
On the way and stuck in traffic, I was asked if I thought smartphone techno=
logy was advantageous to my lifestyle.
 I said it wasn=92t, explaining I only use my phone to make and receive the=
 occasional call or to send/receive the even more occasional text. I don=92=
t use it for anything else and when using my mobility scooter in populated =
areas I tend to not avoid those who
 can=92t walk anywhere unless they=92re glued to a handheld screen and obli=
vious to everything surrounding them. So I just drive at them because the s=
cooter has outstanding brakes. Twenty plus years ago, I refused to allow my=
 company provided car to be fitted with
 a car phone because driving in this overcrowded island then demanded total=
 attention at all times. It=92s even worse now. My boss and his boss were o=
f the same view so I was =91protected=92 from those who held divergent opin=
ions. Some years later, i had a colleague
 who never answered his employer provided smartphone if he was driving and =
would throw it out of the window whenever it rang. He got through a lot of =
phones in the course of a year until it was decided to give him a telephone=
 credit card instead.<br>
But I=92m not totally resistant to technology and spend a lot of time writi=
ng on my laptop. In fact, I=92ve got my second Life at Triumph book almost =
ready for publication but I just can=92t get my head around the technology =
provided by Amazon and Kindle. Each time
 I try, everything goes =93tits up=94 and I manage to blow a memory somewhe=
re.<br>
&nbsp;Perhaps little Poppy, my three year old grand-daughter could help the=
re? Most kids of almost any age have forgotten more than I=92ve ever learne=
d on the cyber tech front so maybe I=92ll ask Poppy for her help?<br>
<br>
Cheers, John<br>
<br>
&gt; On 4 Nov 2024, at 20:49, &lt;[email-masked]&gt; &lt;keithstewar=
[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I am shocked John. When dd you become clunky and boring? Did you use O=
EM parts/enhancements, or were they aftermarket? Were the changes you made =
reversible, or have you permanently made the adjustment?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Cheers<br>
&gt; Keith<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Keith Stewart<br>
&gt; [email-masked]<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"https://keith-stewart.ca/">https://keith-stewart.ca/</a><br=
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: John Macartney &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br>
&gt; Sent: November 3, 2024 4:51 PM<br>
&gt; To: [email-masked]<br>
&gt; Cc: [email-masked]<br>
&gt; Subject: [TR] Re Facebook<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; For reasons unknown to me, BookFace closed my account without saying w=
hy. To be honest I read so many posts on it covering a plethora of subjects=
 - the majority of which were unsolicited and I=92m now SO glad to be rid o=
f the damned thing and I certainly won=92t
 be going there again. This list may not be as heavily trafficked as it was=
 20 plus years ago but I still prefer it to other web based alternatives th=
at are clunky to navigate and generally rather boring.<br>
&gt; But I guess I=92ve reached an age where I=92m likely to others to be c=
lunky and boring so it evens out all round for everyone.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Heigh-ho<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Jonmac<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
<br>
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The diff is we learned HOW/why computers worked as it and we, grew up.
The kids today, it's a tool only. Hell many draw a blank stare when 
confronted with
clockwise counter clockwise, or can't understand a rotary dial phone was 
simpler
than a digital key press.

My most favorite bumper sticker also demonstrates this point.....
Oem Millennial Anti Theft Protected

Every Triumph (97+%?) came with them.

ptegler

On 11/4/2024 6:45 PM, dave northrup wrote:
> I am 70 and in IT.  People always say that the young folk know all 
> about computers and technology.  They don't.   I run circles around 
> them and am constantly amazed at how little they really know
>
>
> An interesting query appropriate to the day. Only this afternoon, I 
> was driving two grandsons (in teens) and with a same age friend home 
> from school. On the way and stuck in traffic, I was asked if I thought 
> smartphone technology was advantageous to my lifestyle. I said it 
> wasn’t, explaining I only use my phone to make and receive the 
> occasional call or to send/receive the even more occasional text. I 
> don’t use it for anything else and when using my mobility scooter in 
> populated areas I tend to not avoid those who can’t walk anywhere 
> unless they’re glued to a handheld screen and oblivious to everything 
> surrounding them. So I just drive at them because the scooter has 
> outstanding brakes. Twenty plus years ago, I refused to allow my 
> company provided car to be fitted with a car phone because driving in 
> this overcrowded island then demanded total attention at all times. 
> It’s even worse now. My boss and his boss were of the same view so I 
> was ‘protected’ from those who held divergent opinions. Some years 
> later, i had a colleague who never answered his employer provided 
> smartphone if he was driving and would throw it out of the window 
> whenever it rang. He got through a lot of phones in the course of a 
> year until it was decided to give him a telephone credit card instead.
> But I’m not totally resistant to technology and spend a lot of time 
> writing on my laptop. In fact, I’ve got my second Life at Triumph book 
> almost ready for publication but I just can’t get my head around the 
> technology provided by Amazon and Kindle. Each time I try, everything 
> goes “tits up” and I manage to blow a memory somewhere.
>  Perhaps little Poppy, my three year old grand-daughter could help 
> there? Most kids of almost any age have forgotten more than I’ve ever 
> learned on the cyber tech front so maybe I’ll ask Poppy for her help?
>
> Cheers, John
>
> > I am shocked John. When dd you become clunky and boring? Did you use 
> OEM parts/enhancements, or were they aftermarket? Were the changes you 
> made reversible, or have you permanently made the adjustment?
> >
> > Cheers
> > Keith
> >
> > Keith Stewart
> > [email-masked]
> > For reasons unknown to me, BookFace closed my account without saying 
> why. To be honest I read so many posts on it covering a plethora of 
> subjects - the majority of which were unsolicited and I’m now SO glad 
> to be rid of the damned thing and I certainly won’t be going there 
> again. This list may not be as heavily trafficked as it was 20 plus 
> years ago but I still prefer it to other web based alternatives that 
> are clunky to navigate and generally rather boring.
> > But I guess I’ve reached an age where I’m likely to others to be 
> clunky and boring so it evens out all round for everyone.
> >
> > Heigh-ho
> >
> > Jonmac
> >
> >
>
>
> [email-masked]  **
>
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    <p>The diff is we learned HOW/why computers worked as it and we,
      grew up.<br>
      The kids today, it's a tool only. Hell many draw a blank stare
      when confronted with <br>
      clockwise counter clockwise, or can't understand a rotary dial
      phone was simpler <br>
      than a digital key press.</p>
    <p>My most favorite bumper sticker also demonstrates this point.....<br>
      Oem Millennial Anti Theft Protected                  <br>
      <br>
      Every Triumph (97+%?) came with them.</p>
    <p>ptegler<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/4/2024 6:45 PM, dave northrup
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="auto">I am 70 and in IT.  People always say that the
        young folk know all about computers and technology.  They
        don't.   I run circles around them and am constantly amazed at
        how little they really know
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>-------- Original message --------</div>
        <div>From: John Macartney <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> </div>
        <div>Date: 11/4/24 4:17 PM (GMT-06:00) </div>
        <div>To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> </div>
        <div>Cc: dave northrup <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>,
          <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> </div>
        <div>Subject: Re: [TR] Re Facebook </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
      </div>
      <font size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;">
          <div class="PlainText">Hi, Keith,<br>
            <br>
            An interesting query appropriate to the day. Only this
            afternoon, I was driving two grandsons (in teens) and with a
            same age friend home from school. On the way and stuck in
            traffic, I was asked if I thought smartphone technology was
            advantageous to my lifestyle. I said it wasn’t, explaining I
            only use my phone to make and receive the occasional call or
            to send/receive the even more occasional text. I don’t use
            it for anything else and when using my mobility scooter in
            populated areas I tend to not avoid those who can’t walk
            anywhere unless they’re glued to a handheld screen and
            oblivious to everything surrounding them. So I just drive at
            them because the scooter has outstanding brakes. Twenty plus
            years ago, I refused to allow my company provided car to be
            fitted with a car phone because driving in this overcrowded
            island then demanded total attention at all times. It’s even
            worse now. My boss and his boss were of the same view so I
            was ‘protected’ from those who held divergent opinions. Some
            years later, i had a colleague who never answered his
            employer provided smartphone if he was driving and would
            throw it out of the window whenever it rang. He got through
            a lot of phones in the course of a year until it was decided
            to give him a telephone credit card instead.<br>
            But I’m not totally resistant to technology and spend a lot
            of time writing on my laptop. In fact, I’ve got my second
            Life at Triumph book almost ready for publication but I just
            can’t get my head around the technology provided by Amazon
            and Kindle. Each time I try, everything goes “tits up” and I
            manage to blow a memory somewhere.<br>
             Perhaps little Poppy, my three year old grand-daughter
            could help there? Most kids of almost any age have forgotten
            more than I’ve ever learned on the cyber tech front so maybe
            I’ll ask Poppy for her help?<br>
            <br>
            Cheers, John<br>
            <br>
            &gt; On 4 Nov 2024, at 20:49, <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> wrote:<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; I am shocked John. When dd you become clunky and
            boring? Did you use OEM parts/enhancements, or were they
            aftermarket? Were the changes you made reversible, or have
            you permanently made the adjustment?<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; Cheers<br>
            &gt; Keith<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; Keith Stewart<br>
            &gt; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>
            &gt; <a href="https://keith-stewart.ca/"
              moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://keith-stewart.ca/</a><br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
            &gt; From: John Macartney <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> <br>
            &gt; Sent: November 3, 2024 4:51 PM<br>
            &gt; To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>
            &gt; Cc: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>
            &gt; Subject: [TR] Re Facebook<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; For reasons unknown to me, BookFace closed my account
            without saying why. To be honest I read so many posts on it
            covering a plethora of subjects - the majority of which were
            unsolicited and I’m now SO glad to be rid of the damned
            thing and I certainly won’t be going there again. This list
            may not be as heavily trafficked as it was 20 plus years ago
            but I still prefer it to other web based alternatives that
            are clunky to navigate and generally rather boring.<br>
            &gt; But I guess I’ve reached an age where I’m likely to
            others to be clunky and boring so it evens out all round for
            everyone.<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; Heigh-ho<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; Jonmac<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; <br>
            <br>
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Perhaps I should send Dave N a copy of the handbook for my Kia Sorento to ki=
ndly unravel for me? I=E2=80=99m certain no human being was ever involved at=
 any point in its authorship. Furthermore, some ethereal force abdicated the=
 editing and indexing tasks to another computer with serious malware issues a=
nd run by some sort of AI that originated in a galaxy never visited by the S=
tarship Enterprise.=20
The car is faultless and superbly put together, but each time we go out it=E2=
=80=99s a true Voyage of Discovery. Only yesterday did I find how to wash th=
e rear window from the driving seat :)

Jonmac

> On 4 Nov 2024, at 23:45, dave northrup <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> I am 70 and in IT.  People always say that the young folk know all about c=
omputers and technology.  They don't.   I run circles around them and am con=
stantly amazed at how little they really know
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> An interesting query appropriate to the day. Only this afternoon, I was dr=
iving two grandsons (in teens) and with a same age friend home from school. O=
n the way and stuck in traffic, I was asked if I thought smartphone technolo=
gy was advantageous to my lifestyle. I said it wasn=E2=80=99t, explaining I o=
nly use my phone to make and receive the occasional call or to send/receive t=
he even more occasional text. I don=E2=80=99t use it for anything else and w=
hen using my mobility scooter in populated areas I tend to not avoid those w=
ho can=E2=80=99t walk anywhere unless they=E2=80=99re glued to a handheld sc=
reen and oblivious to everything surrounding them. So I just drive at them b=
ecause the scooter has outstanding brakes. Twenty plus years ago, I refused t=
o allow my company provided car to be fitted with a car phone because drivin=
g in this overcrowded island then demanded total attention at all times. It=E2=
=80=99s even worse now. My boss and his boss were of the same view so I was =E2=
=80=98protected=E2=80=99 from those who held divergent opinions. Some years l=
ater, i had a colleague who never answered his employer provided smartphone i=
f he was driving and would throw it out of the window whenever it rang. He g=
ot through a lot of phones in the course of a year until it was decided to g=
ive him a telephone credit card instead.
> But I=E2=80=99m not totally resistant to technology and spend a lot of tim=
e writing on my laptop. In fact, I=E2=80=99ve got my second Life at Triumph b=
ook almost ready for publication but I just can=E2=80=99t get my head around=
 the technology provided by Amazon and Kindle. Each time I try, everything g=
oes =E2=80=9Ctits up=E2=80=9D and I manage to blow a memory somewhere.
>  Perhaps little Poppy, my three year old grand-daughter could help there? M=
ost kids of almost any age have forgotten more than I=E2=80=99ve ever learne=
d on the cyber tech front so maybe I=E2=80=99ll ask Poppy for her help?
>=20
> Cheers, John
>=20
> > On 4 Nov 2024, at 20:49, <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>=
 wrote:
> >=20
> > I am shocked John. When dd you become clunky and boring? Did you use OEM=
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > From: John Macartney <[email-masked]>=20
> >=20
> > For reasons unknown to me, BookFace closed my account without saying why=
. To be honest I read so many posts on it covering a plethora of subjects - t=
he majority of which were unsolicited and I=E2=80=99m now SO glad to be rid o=
f the damned thing and I certainly won=E2=80=99t be going there again. This l=
ist may not be as heavily trafficked as it was 20 plus years ago but I still=
 prefer it to other web based alternatives that are clunky to navigate and g=
enerally rather boring.
> > But I guess I=E2=80=99ve reached an age where I=E2=80=99m likely to othe=
rs to be clunky and boring so it evens out all round for everyone.
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
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utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Perhaps I should send Dave N a copy of the handbook f=
or my Kia Sorento to kindly unravel for me? I=E2=80=99m certain no human bei=
ng was ever involved at any point in its authorship. Furthermore, some ether=
eal force abdicated the editing and indexing tasks to another computer with s=
erious malware issues and run by some sort of AI that originated in a galaxy=
 never visited by the Starship Enterprise.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">The c=
ar is faultless and superbly put together, but each time we go out it=E2=80=99=
s a true Voyage of Discovery. Only yesterday did I find how to wash the rear=
 window from the driving seat :)</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">Jonmac</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On 4 Nov 2=
024, at 23:45, dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">dave@ra=
nteer.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"=
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<div dir=3D"auto">I am 70 and in IT.&nbsp; People always say that the young f=
olk know all about computers and technology.&nbsp; They don't.&nbsp; &nbsp;I=
 run circles around them and am constantly amazed at how little they really k=
now
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<div>-------- Original message --------</div>
<div>From: John Macartney &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">john=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; </div>
<div>Date: 11/4/24 4:17 PM (GMT-06:00) </div>
<div>To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> <=
/div>
<div>Cc: dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">dave@ranteer.=
com</a>&gt;, <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked].=
net</a> </div>
<div>Subject: Re: [TR] Re Facebook </div>
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<div class=3D"PlainText">Hi, Keith,<br>
<br>
An interesting query appropriate to the day. Only this afternoon, I was driv=
ing two grandsons (in teens) and with a same age friend home from school. On=
 the way and stuck in traffic, I was asked if I thought smartphone technolog=
y was advantageous to my lifestyle.
 I said it wasn=E2=80=99t, explaining I only use my phone to make and receiv=
e the occasional call or to send/receive the even more occasional text. I do=
n=E2=80=99t use it for anything else and when using my mobility scooter in p=
opulated areas I tend to not avoid those who
 can=E2=80=99t walk anywhere unless they=E2=80=99re glued to a handheld scre=
en and oblivious to everything surrounding them. So I just drive at them bec=
ause the scooter has outstanding brakes. Twenty plus years ago, I refused to=
 allow my company provided car to be fitted with
 a car phone because driving in this overcrowded island then demanded total a=
ttention at all times. It=E2=80=99s even worse now. My boss and his boss wer=
e of the same view so I was =E2=80=98protected=E2=80=99 from those who held d=
ivergent opinions. Some years later, i had a colleague
 who never answered his employer provided smartphone if he was driving and w=
ould throw it out of the window whenever it rang. He got through a lot of ph=
ones in the course of a year until it was decided to give him a telephone cr=
edit card instead.<br>
But I=E2=80=99m not totally resistant to technology and spend a lot of time w=
riting on my laptop. In fact, I=E2=80=99ve got my second Life at Triumph boo=
k almost ready for publication but I just can=E2=80=99t get my head around t=
he technology provided by Amazon and Kindle. Each time
 I try, everything goes =E2=80=9Ctits up=E2=80=9D and I manage to blow a mem=
ory somewhere.<br>
&nbsp;Perhaps little Poppy, my three year old grand-daughter could help ther=
e? Most kids of almost any age have forgotten more than I=E2=80=99ve ever le=
arned on the cyber tech front so maybe I=E2=80=99ll ask Poppy for her help?<=
br>
<br>
Cheers, John<br>
<br>
&gt; On 4 Nov 2024, at 20:49, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">k=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">ke=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I am shocked John. When dd you become clunky and boring? Did you use OE=
M parts/enhancements, or were they aftermarket? Were the changes you made re=
versible, or have you permanently made the adjustment?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Cheers<br>
&gt; Keith<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Keith Stewart<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"https://keith-stewart.ca/">https://keith-stewart.ca/</a><br>=

&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: John Macartney &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">john=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; <br>
&gt; Sent: November 3, 2024 4:51 PM<br>
&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>
&gt; Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]<=
/a><br>
&gt; Subject: [TR] Re Facebook<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; For reasons unknown to me, BookFace closed my account without saying wh=
y. To be honest I read so many posts on it covering a plethora of subjects -=
 the majority of which were unsolicited and I=E2=80=99m now SO glad to be ri=
d of the damned thing and I certainly won=E2=80=99t
 be going there again. This list may not be as heavily trafficked as it was 2=
0 plus years ago but I still prefer it to other web based alternatives that a=
re clunky to navigate and generally rather boring.<br>
&gt; But I guess I=E2=80=99ve reached an age where I=E2=80=99m likely to oth=
ers to be clunky and boring so it evens out all round for everyone.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Heigh-ho<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Jonmac<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
<br>
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