Subject: Re: [TR] TR2/3/3a/3b nose

From: Frank Fisher <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 01:46:23 +0000 (UTC)

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 the front bumper does not play into the install.you may have to remove it.=
.i dont recall.but the aluminum cross bar mounted at the top/hood slots int=
o the channels located at the top of the inner fender.then they bolt to the=
 outer fenders.easiest is to take out the headlight buckets so you can reac=
h in
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        <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">the front bumper does not play into the install.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">you may have to remove it..i dont recall.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">but the aluminum cross bar mounted at the top/hood slots into the channels located at the top of the inner fender.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">then they bolt to the outer fenders.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">easiest is to take out the headlight buckets so you can reach in</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">&nbsp;</div><div><br></div>
        
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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 02:17:18 +0000 (UTC)

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I didn't see any responses to this so I guess no one has done this.=C2=A0 I=
 did see a TR3 in France that was set up like a Spitfire where the hood, no=
se piece and fenders were all hard connected together and hinged at the fro=
nt.=C2=A0 Is that what you mean or do you want the nose piece to fold out s=
eparate from the hood like a clamshell?
Either way, I'm no help.=C2=A0 I'm an electrical guy.=C2=A0 Sheet metal wor=
k is all magic to me.
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=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I didn't see any responses to this so I gues=
s no one has done this.&nbsp; I did see a TR3 in France that was set up lik=
e a Spitfire where the hood, nose piece and fenders were all hard connected=
 together and hinged at the front.&nbsp; Is that what you mean or do you wa=
nt the nose piece to fold out separate from the hood like a clamshell?</div=
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dir=3D"false">Either way, I'm no help.&nbsp; I'm an electrical guy.&nbsp; S=
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it involves some decisions about the front bumper.&nbsp;
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From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 21:52:01 -0500

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It's been done, Dave Massey.  IIRC, the TR Register (UK) forum had a thread
10+ years ago on how an apron was converted to front-hinged..  I'm not
going hunting for it though -- it offends the originalist in me.  :)

On the same general subject, I saw this ugly-a$$ sidescreen TR in Monaco
during Grand Prix weekend a few years ago (2017, I think).  Not exactly a
full tilt, but kind of a goofy mod for the work that would have been
involved.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Europe/Monaco-Grand-Prix/n-BmXdxg/2017-05-24-29-=
MGP-all/i-GPTfGNk/0/Mph67kVfNhDV3RQZdvpcVMXb7Gs9B26vTf2m9WVf6/X5/IMG_3415-X=
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> I didn't see any responses to this so I guess no one has done this.  I di=
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> see a TR3 in France that was set up like a Spitfire where the hood, nose
> piece and fenders were all hard connected together and hinged at the
> front.  Is that what you mean or do you want the nose piece to fold out
> separate from the hood like a clamshell?
>
> Either way, I'm no help.  I'm an electrical guy.  Sheet metal work is all
> magic to me.
>
> Dave
>
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> [email-masked]> wrote:
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> involves some decisions about the front bumper.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">It&=
#39;s been done, Dave Massey.=C2=A0 IIRC, the TR Register (UK) forum had a =
thread 10+ years ago on how an apron was converted to front-hinged..=C2=A0 =
I&#39;m not going hunting for=C2=A0it though -- it offends the originalist =
in me.=C2=A0 :)</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"=
><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">On the sa=
me general subject, I saw this ugly-a$$ sidescreen TR in Monaco during Gran=
d Prix weekend a few years ago (2017, I think).=C2=A0 Not exactly a full ti=
lt, but kind of a goofy mod for the work that would have been involved.</di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><a href=3D"https:/=
/photos.smugmug.com/Europe/Monaco-Grand-Prix/n-BmXdxg/2017-05-24-29-MGP-all=
/i-GPTfGNk/0/Mph67kVfNhDV3RQZdvpcVMXb7Gs9B26vTf2m9WVf6/X5/IMG_3415-X5.jpg">=
https://photos.smugmug.com/Europe/Monaco-Grand-Prix/n-BmXdxg/2017-05-24-29-=
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=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 28, 2024=
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[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
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padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif=
;font-size:16px"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">I didn&#39;t see any responses to th=
is so I guess no one has done this.=C2=A0 I did see a TR3 in France that wa=
s set up like a Spitfire where the hood, nose piece and fenders were all ha=
rd connected together and hinged at the front.=C2=A0 Is that what you mean =
or do you want the nose piece to fold out separate from the hood like a cla=
mshell?</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Either way, I&#39;=
m no help.=C2=A0 I&#39;m an electrical guy.=C2=A0 Sheet metal work is all m=
agic to me.</div><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"color:black;font-style:n=
ormal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12pt;line-height:nor=
mal;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><div style=3D"color:black;font-=
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ght:normal;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><div><font size=3D"4">Da=
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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 12:09:26 +0000 (UTC)

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After having an unlatched TR3 hood (bonnet) lift up and fold back onto the =
windscreen, a front hinged bonnet holds a special appeal.
(Hint, don't trust that the safety catch will work.=C2=A0 That was a $1,000=
 mistake.)
A front-hinged apron would make radiator replacement much simpler but hardl=
y seems worth the effort.=C2=A0 The chap with the single-piece front clip s=
aid it was done du to some collision damage.=C2=A0 But some folks do things=
 just for the novelty of it.=C2=A0 To add their personal touch.=C2=A0 My TR=
6 has an automatically opening scuttle vent.=C2=A0 I devised a mechanism us=
ing an HVAC damper motor from a Ford that opens the vent using engine vacuu=
m and a solenoid dumps the vacuum when the engine is shut down.=C2=A0 Why?=
=C2=A0 Because I could.=C2=A0 One of a kind.=C2=A0 But this is much more su=
btle than what some are doing.
It's interesting that the Spitfire front clip is a simple assembly of stamp=
ed sheet metal pieces whereas the XKE hood has its own framework.=C2=A0 I w=
onder if the TR3 sheetmetal is stout enough to not need a frame.
Dave=20

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 It's been done, Dave Massey.=C2=A0 IIRC, the TR Register (UK) forum had a =
thread 10+ years ago on how an apron was converted to front-hinged..=C2=A0 =
I'm not going hunting for=C2=A0it though -- it offends the originalist in m=
e.=C2=A0 :)
On the same general subject, I saw this ugly-a$$ sidescreen TR in Monaco du=
ring Grand Prix weekend a few years ago (2017, I think).=C2=A0 Not exactly =
a full tilt, but kind of a goofy mod for the work that would have been invo=
lved.https://photos.smugmug.com/Europe/Monaco-Grand-Prix/n-BmXdxg/2017-05-2=
4-29-MGP-all/i-GPTfGNk/0/Mph67kVfNhDV3RQZdvpcVMXb7Gs9B26vTf2m9WVf6/X5/IMG_3=
415-X5.jpg
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<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydpf4740cadyahoo-style-wrap" style=
=3D"font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">After having an unlatched TR3 hood (bonnet) =
lift up and fold back onto the windscreen, a front hinged bonnet holds a sp=
ecial appeal.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">(Hint, don't trust that the safety catch wi=
ll work.&nbsp; That was a $1,000 mistake.)</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdi=
r=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">A front-hinged=
 apron would make radiator replacement much simpler but hardly seems worth =
the effort.&nbsp; The chap with the single-piece front clip said it was don=
e du to some collision damage.&nbsp; But some folks do things just for the =
novelty of it.&nbsp; To add their personal touch.&nbsp; My TR6 has an autom=
atically opening scuttle vent.&nbsp; I devised a mechanism using an HVAC da=
mper motor from a Ford that opens the vent using engine vacuum and a soleno=
id dumps the vacuum when the engine is shut down.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; Because =
I could.&nbsp; One of a kind.&nbsp; But this is much more subtle than what =
some are doing.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">It's interesting that the Spitfire front =
clip is a simple assembly of stamped sheet metal pieces whereas the XKE hoo=
d has its own framework.&nbsp; I wonder if the TR3 sheetmetal is stout enou=
gh to not need a frame.</div><div><br></div><div class=3D"ydpf4740cadsignat=
ure"><div style=3D"color: black; font-style: normal; font-size-adjust: none=
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ack; font-style: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-weight: normal; font-=
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pan style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"><br></sp=
an></div><br></div></div></div></div>
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                <div class=3D"ydp63d90746quoted-text-header">
                        On Sunday, July 28, 2024 at 09:52:14 PM CDT, Don Hi=
scock &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                </div><div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica=
, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;border-left: 1px solid #cc=
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                <div><div id=3D"ydp63d90746yiv7575563558"><div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><div style=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"ydp63d90746yiv7575563558gmail=
_default">It's been done, Dave Massey.&nbsp; IIRC, the TR Register (UK) for=
um had a thread 10+ years ago on how an apron was converted to front-hinged=
..&nbsp; I'm not going hunting for&nbsp;it though -- it offends the origina=
list in me.&nbsp; :)</div><div style=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"ydp63d90=
746yiv7575563558gmail_default"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"font-=
size:small;" class=3D"ydp63d90746yiv7575563558gmail_default">On the same ge=
neral subject, I saw this ugly-a$$ sidescreen TR in Monaco during Grand Pri=
x weekend a few years ago (2017, I think).&nbsp; Not exactly a full tilt, b=
ut kind of a goofy mod for the work that would have been involved.</div><di=
v style=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"ydp63d90746yiv7575563558gmail_default=
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ear=3D"none"></div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"ydp63d90746yiv757=
5563558gmail_quote"><div id=3D"ydp63d90746yiv7575563558yqt74795" class=3D"y=
dp63d90746yiv7575563558yqt2004753181"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydp63d90746=
yiv7575563558gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 9:27=E2=80=AFPM DAVID MASS=
EY &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow=
" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></d=
iv><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(=
204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"ydp63d90746yiv7575563558gmail_quot=
e"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16=
px;"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">I didn't see any responses to this so I guess no=
 one has done this.&nbsp; I did see a TR3 in France that was set up like a =
Spitfire where the hood, nose piece and fenders were all hard connected tog=
ether and hinged at the front.&nbsp; Is that what you mean or do you want t=
he nose piece to fold out separate from the hood like a clamshell?</div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Either way, I'm no =
help.&nbsp; I'm an electrical guy.&nbsp; Sheet metal work is all magic to m=
e.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><div style=3D"color:black;font-s=
tyle:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12pt;line-heig=
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<p><span style=3D"color:black;">Does anyone have any info about hinging the=
 front nosepiece?&nbsp; I know it involves some decisions about the front b=
umper.&nbsp;
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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:32:01 +0000 (UTC)

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Good question.=C2=A0 I doubt it.=C2=A0 They tend to splay in or out.=C2=A0 =
They were not designed to be self-supporting.=C2=A0 But if you were to hing=
e the nose piece it would need to latch onto something so a support member =
between the two fenders would be needed.
I never gave it much thought and I'm not a coachwork guy so I am not the on=
e to be giving out advice on this.=C2=A0 Everything I say is based on a fre=
shman year mechanical class.
Dave=20

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I wonder about the front wings =E2=80=93 would they be ok without that supp=
ort of the front nosepiece?

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=3D"font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Good question.&nbsp; I doubt it.&nbsp; They =
tend to splay in or out.&nbsp; They were not designed to be self-supporting=
.&nbsp; But if you were to hinge the nose piece it would need to latch onto=
 something so a support member between the two fenders would be needed.</di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-se=
tdir=3D"false">I never gave it much thought and I'm not a coachwork guy so =
I am not the one to be giving out advice on this.&nbsp; Everything I say is=
 based on a freshman year mechanical class.</div><div><br></div><div class=
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<p class=3D"ydpebcff88cyiv0672925680MsoNormal">I wonder about the front win=
gs =E2=80=93 would they be ok without that support of the front nosepiece?<=
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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 23:42:06 +0000 (UTC)

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 misunderstood what you were looking for Dave.oopsFrank

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<p class=3D"ydp97339052yiv7841344625MsoNormal">I wonder about the front win=
gs =E2=80=93 would they be ok without that support of the front nosepiece?<=
/p><div id=3D"ydp97339052yiv7841344625yqtfd18671" class=3D"ydp97339052yiv78=
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