Subject: Re: [TR] Storing my car

From: auprichard uprichard.net <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 19:51:57 +0000

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Since there is a naked flame in my garage in Florida, I always drain the ca=
r when we leave after the winter.  On the other hand I always fill up the c=
ars in Michigan - maybe it's just easier.  But if you are going to store it=
 with a full tank, be sure to add some fuel  stabilizer:  one year I forget=
 and the fuel deteriorated over the winter - the car pinged and ran terribl=
y until I realized what it was.

Andrew Uprichard
Jackson, Michigan

From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Cliff Hansen
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 2:46 PM
To: list Triumph <[email-masked]>
Subject: [TR] Storing my car

I will be storing my TR4A for the next year. What's the group's advice - st=
ore with empty or full fuel tank?

TIA,

Cliff

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quo=
t;,serif;color:#1F497D">Since there is a naked flame in my garage in Florid=
a, I always drain the car when we leave after the winter.&nbsp; On the othe=
r hand I always fill up the cars in Michigan &#8211; maybe
 it&#8217;s just easier.&nbsp; But if you are going to store it with a full=
 tank, be sure to add some fuel&nbsp; stabilizer:&nbsp; one year I forget a=
nd the fuel deteriorated over the winter &#8211; the car pinged and ran ter=
ribly until I realized what it was.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]=
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 2, 2024 2:46 PM<br>
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Being in Connecticut, our last drive of the year tends to be in late October
or early November. I usually try to fill the tank up in the early fall, as I
think "summer" gas winters over fairly well, especially compared to "winter"
gas being held over during the summer. The car is stored in the unheated
upstairs of a shop/barn. The first floor of the barn is heated throughout
the winter and I would like to think that helps to keep the humidity down
where the car and several older farm tractors are stored. Other than the
time it takes for the fuel pump to fill the carburettors, our TR6 starts up
and runs well after 4 - 5 months in storage. I also try to hook up a trickle
charge for a day or two every month or so.

If you are looking for a longer storage time, maybe a "dry" fuel system may
be the way to go.

Alex Thomson

I will be storing my TR4A for the next year. What's the group's advice -
store with empty or full fuel tank?

TIA,

Cliff

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style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Being in Connecticut, our last =
drive of the year tends to be in late October or early November. I =
usually try to fill the tank up in the early fall, as I think =
&quot;summer&quot; gas winters over fairly well, especially compared to =
&quot;winter&quot; gas being held over during the summer. The car is =
stored in the unheated upstairs of a shop/barn. The first floor of the =
barn is heated throughout the winter and I would like to think that =
helps to keep the humidity down where the car and several older farm =
tractors are stored. Other than the time it takes for the fuel pump to =
fill the carburettors, our TR6 starts up and runs well after 4 - 5 =
months in storage. I also try to hook up a trickle charge for a day or =
two every month or so.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>If you =
are looking for a longer storage time, maybe a &quot;dry&quot; fuel =
system may be the way to go.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Alex =
Thomson<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Cliff =
Hansen<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 2, 2024 2:46 PM<br><b>To:</b> list =
Triumph &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [TR] Storing =
my car<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I will be storing my TR4A for the =
next year. What's the group's advice - store with empty or full fuel =
tank?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div>=
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From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 22:25:46 -0500

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I kinda like the advice given by Toyota Gibraltar Stockholdings, the Toyota
agency supplying vehicles to aid agencies and NGOs.  Their recommendations
regarding fuel levels for vehicle storage are (1) for shorter term -- say
less than 6 months -- fill the tank to minimize any moisture condensation,
and (2) for longer term storage -- say 6+ months -- run the tank level down
(or even drain the tank) so that when the vehicle goes back into service
any old fuel is immediately diluted with fresh fuel.  I've followed this
logic with two of my vehicles stored for many months in recent years (both
Toyota/Lexus cars or trucks) and it's worked fine.

If you have access to E0 gasoline, go with that too.  I've had a couple of
cases where fuel pumps (on my BMW R1200GSA ) were likely saved by E0 over
E10 or other ethanol blends

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">I k=
inda like the advice given by Toyota Gibraltar Stockholdings, the Toyota ag=
ency supplying vehicles to aid agencies and NGOs.=C2=A0 Their recommendatio=
ns regarding fuel levels for vehicle storage are (1) for shorter term -- sa=
y less than 6 months -- fill the tank to minimize any moisture condensation=
, and (2) for longer term storage -- say 6+ months -- run the tank level do=
wn (or even drain the tank) so that when the vehicle goes back into service=
 any old fuel is immediately diluted with fresh fuel.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve follow=
ed this logic with two of my vehicles stored for many months in recent year=
s (both Toyota/Lexus cars or trucks) and it&#39;s worked fine.</div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gma=
il_default" style=3D"font-size:small">If you have access to E0 gasoline, go=
 with that too.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve had a couple of cases where fuel pumps (on m=
y BMW R1200GSA ) were likely saved by E0 over E10 or other ethanol blends</=
div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div></div><br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, May 2, 2=
024 at 2:29=E2=80=AFPM Cliff Hansen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cliff_hansen@outl=
ook.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div=
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I will be storing my TR4A for the next year. What&#39;s the group&#39;s adv=
ice - store with empty or full fuel tank?</div>
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TIA,</div>
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Cliff</div>
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