Subject: Re: [TR] Wire Wheels

From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2024 11:21:27 -0500

--===============3671447154743246607==

--000000000000cee58d0614cf0811
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Have you talked with Hendrix Wire Wheel in Greensboro NC?  My Dunlop-style
MWS wheels have been perfect for fourteen years.
https://www.hendrixwirewheel.com/index.shtml

On Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 11:13=E2=80=AFAM Robert Rochlin <[email-masked]=
et>
wrote:

> I=E2=80=99d  like other peoples experience with wire wheels.   I=E2=80=99=
ve been running
> wire wheels on my TR6 for about 25 years.  I love the look of wires, but
> they have been no end of difficulty.
>
>          Balancing- Most tire shops say they can balance wire wheels, but
> they can=E2=80=99t.  Over time it=E2=80=99s been hit and miss as to wheth=
er I can get the
> wheels properly balanced.  Last year I got balancing cones form Moss that
> largely eliminated that issue. The resin cones I got were not in the Moss
> catalog and were much cheaper than the steel set listed in the Moss catal=
og.
>
>          Quality of the wheels themselves- I don=E2=80=99t do much spirit=
ed
> driving, but I=E2=80=99ve had difficulty with the hubs of the Dayton whee=
ls I have
> wearing out to the point that there is an audible clunk when starting fro=
m
> the play in the wheel hubs. This issue is much more pronounced on the rea=
r
> drive wheels. I=E2=80=99ve also had issues with the durability of the whe=
els
> finish. This is on a car that is fair weather driver. As I=E2=80=99ve sai=
d, these
> wheels are about 25 years old and have about 40,000 miles on them.
>
>          At this point I need to replace at least 2 of the wheels.  When =
I
> called Dayton they told me that, while chrome wires were in stock, they
> only special order painted wire wheels and the process takes about 4-6
> weeks. They also said that the charge for chrome wires and painted wires
> are the same.  Moss sells MWS wire wheels, which I=E2=80=99m guessing is =
a new name
> for the Dunlap wires they previously sold.
>
>          My questions are, are others having the same issue with their
> wire wheels, and are folks using the MWS wheels from Moss having
> better(good) luck with their wires?
>
> Best,
>
> Bob
>
> =E2=80=9972 TR6
> ** [email-masked] **
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/[email-masked]
>

--000000000000cee58d0614cf0811
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Hav=
e you talked with Hendrix Wire Wheel in Greensboro NC?=C2=A0 My Dunlop-styl=
e MWS wheels have been perfect for fourteen years.</div><div class=3D"gmail=
_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><a href=3D"https://www.hendrixwirewheel=
.com/index.shtml">https://www.hendrixwirewheel.com/index.shtml</a><br></div=
></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr"=
>On Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 11:13=E2=80=AFAM Robert Rochlin &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left=
:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:18.4px;font-size:medium;font-family:=
Aptos,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:18pt;line-height:27.6px">I=E2=80=
=99d=C2=A0=C2=A0like other peoples experience with wire wheels.=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0I=E2=80=99ve been running wire wheels on my TR6 for about 25 years.=
=C2=A0=C2=A0I love the look of wires, but they have been no end of difficul=
ty.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0i=
n 0in 8pt;line-height:18.4px;font-size:medium;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"=
><span style=3D"font-size:18pt;line-height:27.6px">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Balancing- Most tire shops say they can balan=
ce wire wheels, but they can=E2=80=99t.=C2=A0=C2=A0Over time it=E2=80=99s b=
een hit and miss as to whether I can get the wheels properly balanced.=C2=
=A0=C2=A0Last year I got balancing cones form Moss that largely eliminated =
that issue. The resin cones I got were not in the Moss catalog and were muc=
h cheaper than the steel set listed in the Moss catalog.<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:18.4px=
;font-size:medium;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:18=
pt;line-height:27.6px">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0Quality of the wheels themselves- I don=E2=80=99t do much spirited drivi=
ng, but I=E2=80=99ve had difficulty with the hubs of the Dayton wheels I ha=
ve wearing out to the point that there is an audible clunk when starting fr=
om the play in the wheel hubs. This issue is much more pronounced on the re=
ar drive wheels. I=E2=80=99ve also had issues with the durability of the wh=
eels finish. This is on a car that is fair weather driver. As I=E2=80=99ve =
said, these wheels are about 25 years old and have about 40,000 miles on th=
em.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
8pt;line-height:18.4px;font-size:medium;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:18pt;line-height:27.6px">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0At this point I need to replace at least 2 of the w=
heels.=C2=A0=C2=A0When I called Dayton they told me that, while chrome wire=
s were in stock, they only special order painted wire wheels and the proces=
s takes about 4-6 weeks. They also said that the charge for chrome wires an=
d painted wires are the same.=C2=A0=C2=A0Moss sells MWS wire wheels, which =
I=E2=80=99m guessing is a new name for the Dunlap wires they previously sol=
d.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8=
pt;line-height:18.4px;font-size:medium;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><span =
style=3D"font-size:18pt;line-height:27.6px">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0My questions are, are others having the same issue =
with their wire wheels, and are folks using the MWS wheels from Moss having=
 better(good) luck with their wires?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:18.4px;font-size:medium;fo=
nt-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:18pt;line-height:27.6p=
x">Best,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in=
 0in 8pt;line-height:18.4px;font-size:medium;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">=
<span style=3D"font-size:18pt;line-height:27.6px">Bob<u></u><u></u></span><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:18.4px;fo=
nt-size:medium;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:18pt;=
line-height:27.6px">=E2=80=9972 TR6<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>** <a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked].=
net</a> **<br>
<br>
et=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>
Archive: <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs" rel=3D"noreferr=
er" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a>=C2=A0 <a h=
ref=3D"http://www.team.net/archive" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tp://www.team.net/archive</a><br>
<br>
hs/[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://autox=
.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/[email-masked]</a><br>
</blockquote></div>

--000000000000cee58d0614cf0811--

--===============3671447154743246607==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

** [email-masked] **

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs  http://www.team.net/archive

--===============3671447154743246607==--

---

From: auprichard uprichard.net <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2024 16:49:28 +0000

--===============2490759730309426140==
Content-Language: en-US
	boundary="_000_SA0PR07MB766087865031980D3B8E3028CA3A2SA0PR07MB7660namp_"

--_000_SA0PR07MB766087865031980D3B8E3028CA3A2SA0PR07MB7660namp_
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64

--_000_SA0PR07MB766087865031980D3B8E3028CA3A2SA0PR07MB7660namp_
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64

--_000_SA0PR07MB766087865031980D3B8E3028CA3A2SA0PR07MB7660namp_--

--===============2490759730309426140==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

--===============2490759730309426140==--

---

From: "Kinderlehrer" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2024 11:14:29 -0700

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

--===============6890915237592977263==
	boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01DA81CA.4601C930"
Content-Language: en-us

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

------=_NextPart_000_002D_01DA81CA.4601C930
	charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

=20

My experience has been mostly good. I bought Dunlap chrome with =
stainless steel spoke wire wheels 24 years ago. Other than keeping them =
clean, the only issue I have had is getting tires mounted. Very few =
shops want to deal with mounting tires on wire wheels, something about =
the newer machines putting too much pressure on the rims.

=20

Bob

=20

From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
Robert Rochlin
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2024 8:47 AM
To: [email-masked]; Triumphs
Subject: [TR] Wire Wheels

=20

I=E2=80=99d  like other peoples experience with wire wheels.   =
I=E2=80=99ve been running wire wheels on my TR6 for about 25 years.  I =
love the look of wires, but they have been no end of difficulty.=20

         Balancing- Most tire shops say they can balance wire wheels, =
but they can=E2=80=99t.  Over time it=E2=80=99s been hit and miss as to =
whether I can get the wheels properly balanced.  Last year I got =
balancing cones form Moss that largely eliminated that issue. The resin =
cones I got were not in the Moss catalog and were much cheaper than the =
steel set listed in the Moss catalog.

         Quality of the wheels themselves- I don=E2=80=99t do much =
spirited driving, but I=E2=80=99ve had difficulty with the hubs of the =
Dayton wheels I have wearing out to the point that there is an audible =
clunk when starting from the play in the wheel hubs. This issue is much =
more pronounced on the rear drive wheels. I=E2=80=99ve also had issues =
with the durability of the wheels finish. This is on a car that is fair =
weather driver. As I=E2=80=99ve said, these wheels are about 25 years =
old and have about 40,000 miles on them.

         At this point I need to replace at least 2 of the wheels.  When =
I called Dayton they told me that, while chrome wires were in stock, =
they only special order painted wire wheels and the process takes about =
4-6 weeks. They also said that the charge for chrome wires and painted =
wires are the same.  Moss sells MWS wire wheels, which I=E2=80=99m =
guessing is a new name for the Dunlap wires they previously sold.

         My questions are, are others having the same issue with their =
wire wheels, and are folks using the MWS wheels from Moss having =
better(good) luck with their wires?

Best,

Bob

=E2=80=9972 TR6

------=_NextPart_000_002D_01DA81CA.4601C930
	charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" =
xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" =
xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" =
xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" =
xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta =
http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><meta =
name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 12 (filtered =
medium)"><style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
	{font-family:"Cambria Math";
	panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
	{font-family:Calibri;
	panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
	{font-family:Tahoma;
	panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
@font-face
	{font-family:Aptos;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
	{margin:0in;
	margin-bottom:.0001pt;
	font-size:12.0pt;
	font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
	{mso-style-priority:99;
	color:blue;
	text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
	{mso-style-priority:99;
	color:purple;
	text-decoration:underline;}
span.EmailStyle17
	{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
	font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
	color:#1F497D;}
.MsoChpDefault
	{mso-style-type:export-only;
	font-size:10.0pt;}
@page WordSection1
	{size:8.5in 11.0in;
	margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
div.WordSection1
	{page:WordSection1;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit">
<o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue =
vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>My experience has been mostly good. I bought Dunlap chrome with =
stainless steel spoke wire wheels 24 years ago. Other than keeping them =
clean, the only issue I have had is getting tires mounted. Very few =
shops want to deal with mounting tires on wire wheels, something about =
the newer machines putting too much pressure on the =
rims.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Bob<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Robert Rochlin<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 29, 2024 8:47 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]; Triumphs<br><b>Subject:</b> [TR] =
Wire Wheels<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:8.0pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.2pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Aptos'>I=E2=80=99d&nbsp;&nbsp;like =
other peoples experience with wire wheels.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I=E2=80=99ve =
been running wire wheels on my TR6 for about 25 years.&nbsp;&nbsp;I love =
the look of wires, but they have been no end of =
difficulty.&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Aptos'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:8.0pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.2pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Aptos'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Balancing- Most tire shops say they can =
balance wire wheels, but they can=E2=80=99t.&nbsp;&nbsp;Over time =
it=E2=80=99s been hit and miss as to whether I can get the wheels =
properly balanced.&nbsp;&nbsp;Last year I got balancing cones form Moss =
that largely eliminated that issue. The resin cones I got were not in =
the Moss catalog and were much cheaper than the steel set listed in the =
Moss catalog.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Aptos'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:8.0pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.2pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Aptos'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Quality of the wheels themselves- I =
don=E2=80=99t do much spirited driving, but I=E2=80=99ve had difficulty =
with the hubs of the Dayton wheels I have wearing out to the point that =
there is an audible clunk when starting from the play in the wheel hubs. =
This issue is much more pronounced on the rear drive wheels. =
I=E2=80=99ve also had issues with the durability of the wheels finish. =
This is on a car that is fair weather driver. As I=E2=80=99ve said, =
these wheels are about 25 years old and have about 40,000 miles on =
them.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Aptos'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:8.0pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.2pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Aptos'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;At this point I need to replace at least 2 of =
the wheels.&nbsp;&nbsp;When I called Dayton they told me that, while =
chrome wires were in stock, they only special order painted wire wheels =
and the process takes about 4-6 weeks. They also said that the charge =
for chrome wires and painted wires are the same.&nbsp;&nbsp;Moss sells =
MWS wire wheels, which I=E2=80=99m guessing is a new name for the Dunlap =
wires they previously sold.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Aptos'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:8.0pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.2pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Aptos'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;My questions are, are others having the same =
issue with their wire wheels, and are folks using the MWS wheels from =
Moss having better(good) luck with their wires?</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Aptos'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:8.0pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.2pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Aptos'>Best,</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Aptos'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:8.0pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.2pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Aptos'>Bob</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Aptos'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:8.0pt;mso-line-height-alt:9.2pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Aptos'>=E2=80=9972 TR6</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Aptos'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div>=
</body></html>
------=_NextPart_000_002D_01DA81CA.4601C930--

--===============6890915237592977263==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

--===============6890915237592977263==--