Subject: Re: [TR] Roadster Factory Christmas day fire

From: Jim Henningsen <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2023 06:41:09 -0500

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Lar=
ry and Steve,</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Well said and I completely agree with yo=
u. There is no place for positing such negative and actionable language on a=
 public platform without facts and at a time of great loss. My heart is heav=
y for the Runyan family and TRF employees. &nbsp;TRF has been an important f=
amily member to me for the past 30 years and the loss is devastating to our T=
riumph community. &nbsp;My grandmother always taught me that if you don=E2=80=
=99t have something good to say then don=E2=80=99t say it.</div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Jim Henningsen</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite">On Dec 27, 2023, at 5:39=E2=80=AFAM, Larry Griffin &l=
t;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif">Dave, you=
 are a valued member of this list. However, these comments are speculative. T=
he problems concerning the investment program and the ill will from those th=
at lost money is understandable. However, Albert is now the owner of TRF, no=
t his father.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,s=
ans-serif"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial=
,sans-serif">The 3 cars in the showroom were saved by the firefighters befor=
e the fire got to that part of the building.&nbsp; Albert has worked extreme=
ly hard to keep the business going. If I remember correctly, he had to purch=
ase TRF from Charles' estate at a value approved by the court. At the 6-pack=
 Trials I understand he was excited and discussed plans for improvements com=
ing in 2024. His sister's MG was destroyed in the fire along with more cars n=
ot in the showroom area. The value of those three cars saved would be small c=
ompared to the inventory including irreplaceable NOS parts and tooling patte=
rns, etc. It will be up to the fire marshall to determine the cause of the f=
ire.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif=
"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-ser=
if">The total loss of TRF is a tragedy that will have a significant effect o=
n our hobby. I can't imagine how hard this is for Albert and the wonderful c=
urrent staff at TRF. They deserve our support, not speculation about what ha=
ppened.&nbsp;<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:ari=
al,sans-serif"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:a=
rial,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On T=
ue, Dec 26, 2023 at 10:41=E2=80=AFPM dave northrup &lt;</span><a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]" style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" targe=
t=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,=
sans-serif">&gt; wrote:</span><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Given how the people in the Roadster Factory Investme=
nt Program were treated after Charles Runyon died, it would not surprise me i=
f this fire was deliberate but done in a way that will not arouse suspicion.=
&nbsp; I suspect the insurance payout
 will be much more than the living business would have brought in a sale.&nb=
sp; And coincidentally, the really valuable cars were in a different buildin=
g and seemed to have survived.
<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt"><a href=3D"https://www=
.tribdem.com/news/roadster-factory-a-total-loss-after-christmas-morning-fire=
-armagh-chief-says/article_9fd287e2-a330-11ee-90de-7319c0164473.html" target=
=3D"_blank">https://www.tribdem.com/news/roadster-factory-a-total-loss-after=
-christmas-morning-fire-armagh-chief-says/article_9fd287e2-a330-11ee-90de-73=
19c0164473.html</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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From: dave northrup <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2023 14:39:32 +0000

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From: Steve Thornton <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2023 16:06:43 +0000

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From: Greg Lemon <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2023 11:16:54 -0600

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Dave,

Against my better judgement.  Whether your statements are actionable is
debatable.

However, the actionable in this case has nothing to do with free speech and
government action.  Freedom of speech relates to the limitations on the
government taking action against you based on something you said (or wrote
or otherwise communicated).

That doesn't keep a party who may be injured or damaged by something you
say either verbally or in writing from suing you in a civil action.  Or as
I like to say, in this great country of ours anybody can sue anybody for
anything.

Please don't make it political when it is not.   Kind of a sad state of
affairs when every little thing that doesn't go somebody's way or is
perceived as an attack, insult, or slight, has to attributed to one "side"
or the other .

Greg Lemon

On Wed, Dec 27, 2023, 8:58 AM dave northrup <[email-masked]> wrote:

> suggesting that my words are "actionable" shows an extreme ignorance of
> the law and the constitution.
>
>
>
> despite what the Biden administration, the DOJ, and liberal democrats hav=
e
> been pushing, this is a country of free speech and it means exactly that.
>
>
>
> the arson investigators will be seriously looking at this.  the fire
> occurred at a time when no one would be working late and no one, includin=
g
> the volunteer firefighters or witnesses, would be around.  And, if as som=
e
> have suggested, that the business was struggling, that just adds more fue=
l
> to the fire
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Jim Henningsen <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 27, 2023 5:41 AM
> *To:* Larry Griffin <[email-masked]>
> *Cc:* dave northrup <[email-masked]>; Listserv Triumph <
> [email-masked]>
> *Subject:* [Junk]Re: [TR] Roadster Factory Christmas day fire
>
>
>
> Larry and Steve,
>
> Well said and I completely agree with you. There is no place for positing
> such negative and actionable language on a public platform without facts
> and at a time of great loss. My heart is heavy for the Runyan family and
> TRF employees.  TRF has been an important family member to me for the pas=
t
> 30 years and the loss is devastating to our Triumph community.  My
> grandmother always taught me that if you don=E2=80=99t have something goo=
d to say
> then don=E2=80=99t say it.
>
> Jim Henningsen
>
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 27, 2023, at 5:39=E2=80=AFAM, Larry Griffin <larrygriffin.nc@gmail=
.com>
> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
>
> Dave, you are a valued member of this list. However, these comments are
> speculative. The problems concerning the investment program and the ill
> will from those that lost money is understandable. However, Albert is now
> the owner of TRF, not his father.
>
>
>
> The 3 cars in the showroom were saved by the firefighters before the fire
> got to that part of the building.  Albert has worked extremely hard to ke=
ep
> the business going. If I remember correctly, he had to purchase TRF from
> Charles' estate at a value approved by the court. At the 6-pack Trials I
> understand he was excited and discussed plans for improvements coming in
> 2024. His sister's MG was destroyed in the fire along with more cars not =
in
> the showroom area. The value of those three cars saved would be small
> compared to the inventory including irreplaceable NOS parts and tooling
> patterns, etc. It will be up to the fire marshall to determine the cause =
of
> the fire.
>
>
>
> The total loss of TRF is a tragedy that will have a significant effect on
> our hobby. I can't imagine how hard this is for Albert and the wonderful
> current staff at TRF. They deserve our support, not speculation about wha=
t
> happened.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 10:41=E2=80=AFPM dave northrup <[email-masked]>=
 wrote:
>
> Given how the people in the Roadster Factory Investment Program were
> treated after Charles Runyon died, it would not surprise me if this fire
> was deliberate but done in a way that will not arouse suspicion.  I suspe=
ct
> the insurance payout will be much more than the living business would hav=
e
> brought in a sale.  And coincidentally, the really valuable cars were in =
a
> different building and seemed to have survived.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.tribdem.com/news/roadster-factory-a-total-loss-after-christma=
s-morning-fire-armagh-chief-says/article_9fd287e2-a330-11ee-90de-7319c01644=
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto">Dave,<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div d=
ir=3D"auto">Against my better judgement.=C2=A0 Whether your statements are =
actionable is debatable.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Howev=
er, the actionable in this case has nothing to do with free speech and gove=
rnment action.=C2=A0 Freedom of speech relates to the limitations on the go=
vernment taking action against you based on something you said (or wrote or=
 otherwise communicated).</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto=
">That doesn&#39;t keep a party who may be injured or damaged by something =
you say either verbally or in writing from suing you in a civil action.=C2=
=A0 Or as I like to say, in this great country of ours anybody can sue anyb=
ody for anything.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Please=
 don&#39;t make it political when it is not.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Kind of a sad stat=
e of affairs when every little thing that doesn&#39;t go somebody&#39;s way=
 or is perceived as an attack, insult, or slight, has to attributed to one =
&quot;side&quot; or the other .</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">Greg Lemon=C2=A0</div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 27, 2023, 8:58 AM dave no=
rthrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nor=
eferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left=
:1ex">

<div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" style=3D"word-wrap:break=
-word">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">suggesting that my words are &quot;actionable&quot; =
shows an extreme ignorance of the law and the constitution.<u></u><u></u></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">despite what the Biden administration, the DOJ, and =
liberal democrats have been pushing, this is a country of free speech and i=
t means exactly that.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">the arson investigators will be seriously looking at=
 this.=C2=A0 the fire occurred at a time when no one would be working late =
and no one, including the volunteer firefighters or witnesses, would be aro=
und.=C2=A0 And, if as some have suggested, that
 the business was struggling, that just adds more fuel to the fire<u></u><u=
></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Jim Henningsen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tr=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">trguy75@gm=
ail.com</a>&gt; <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 27, 2023 5:41 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Larry Griffin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" r=
el=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nor=
eferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; Listserv Tr=
iumph &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer nore=
ferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Junk]Re: [TR] Roadster Factory Christmas day fire<u></u><u=
></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Larry and Steve,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Well said and I completely agree with you. There is =
no place for positing such negative and actionable language on a public pla=
tform without facts and at a time of great loss. My heart is heavy for the =
Runyan family and TRF employees.=C2=A0 TRF
 has been an important family member to me for the past 30 years and the lo=
ss is devastating to our Triumph community.=C2=A0 My grandmother always tau=
ght me that if you don=E2=80=99t have something good to say then don=E2=80=
=99t say it.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jim Henningsen<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
<u></u><u></u></p>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Dec 27, 2023, at 5=
:39=E2=80=AFAM, Larry Griffin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
om" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
om</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=EF=BB=BF<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-se=
rif">Dave, you are a valued member of this list. However, these comments ar=
e speculative. The problems concerning the investment program and the ill w=
ill from those that lost money is understandable.
 However, Albert is now the owner of TRF, not his father.<u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-se=
rif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-se=
rif">The 3 cars in the showroom were saved by the firefighters before the f=
ire got to that part of the building.=C2=A0 Albert has worked extremely har=
d to keep the business going. If I remember correctly,
 he had to purchase TRF from Charles&#39; estate at a value approved by the=
 court. At the 6-pack Trials I understand he was excited and discussed plan=
s for improvements coming in 2024. His sister&#39;s MG was destroyed in the=
 fire along with more cars not in the showroom
 area. The value of those three cars saved would be small compared to the i=
nventory including irreplaceable NOS parts and tooling patterns, etc. It wi=
ll be up to the fire marshall to determine the cause of the fire.<u></u><u>=
</u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-se=
rif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-se=
rif">The total loss of TRF is a tragedy that will have a significant effect=
 on our hobby. I can&#39;t imagine how hard this is for Albert and the wond=
erful current staff at TRF. They deserve our support,
 not speculation about what happened.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-se=
rif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-se=
rif">On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 10:41=E2=80=AFPM dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">da=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Given how the people in the Roadster Factory Investm=
ent Program were treated after Charles Runyon died, it would not surprise m=
e if this fire was deliberate but done in a way that
 will not arouse suspicion.=C2=A0 I suspect the insurance payout will be mu=
ch more than the living business would have brought in a sale.=C2=A0 And co=
incidentally, the really valuable cars were in a different building and see=
med to have survived.
<u></u><u></u></p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt"><a href=3D"https://=
www.tribdem.com/news/roadster-factory-a-total-loss-after-christmas-morning-=
fire-armagh-chief-says/article_9fd287e2-a330-11ee-90de-7319c0164473.html" r=
el=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.tribdem.com/news=
/roadster-factory-a-total-loss-after-christmas-morning-fire-armagh-chief-sa=
ys/article_9fd287e2-a330-11ee-90de-7319c0164473.html</a></span><u></u><u></=
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From: albert runyan <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2023 09:07:37 -0500

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David Northrup-
I think you have being an "asshole" confused with being a "patriot". Have
you ever heard of being a "gentleman"?

https://photos.app.goo.gl/kPUyh2wHMT2UVpaJ6

If anyone would like to help, please consider making a donation to the
Armagh Volunteer Fire Department.
Cheers
Albert
TRF
Onward and Upward

On Wed, Dec 27, 2023, 2:04=E2=80=AFPM Greg Lemon <[email-masked]> wrote:

> However, the actionable in this case has nothing to do with free speech
> and government action.  Freedom of speech relates to the limitations on t=
he
> government taking action against you based on something you said (or wrot=
e
> say either verbally or in writing from suing you in a civil action.  Or a=
s
> perceived as an attack, insult, or slight, has to attributed to one "side=
"
>> despite what the Biden administration, the DOJ, and liberal democrats
>> have been pushing, this is a country of free speech and it means exactly
>> that.
>>
>>
>>
>> occurred at a time when no one would be working late and no one, includi=
ng
>> the volunteer firefighters or witnesses, would be around.  And, if as so=
me
>> have suggested, that the business was struggling, that just adds more fu=
el
>> Well said and I completely agree with you. There is no place for positin=
g
>> TRF employees.  TRF has been an important family member to me for the pa=
st
>> grandmother always taught me that if you don=E2=80=99t have something go=
od to say
>> On Dec 27, 2023, at 5:39=E2=80=AFAM, Larry Griffin <larrygriffin.nc@gmai=
l.com>
>> will from those that lost money is understandable. However, Albert is no=
w
>> The 3 cars in the showroom were saved by the firefighters before the fir=
e
>> got to that part of the building.  Albert has worked extremely hard to k=
eep
>> 2024. His sister's MG was destroyed in the fire along with more cars not=
 in
>> patterns, etc. It will be up to the fire marshall to determine the cause=
 of
>> the fire.
>>
>>
>>
>> The total loss of TRF is a tragedy that will have a significant effect o=
n
>> current staff at TRF. They deserve our support, not speculation about wh=
at
>> happened.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 10:41=E2=80=AFPM dave northrup <[email-masked]=
> wrote:
>>
>> was deliberate but done in a way that will not arouse suspicion.  I susp=
ect
>> the insurance payout will be much more than the living business would ha=
ve
>> brought in a sale.  And coincidentally, the really valuable cars were in=
 a
>> https://www.tribdem.com/news/roadster-factory-a-total-loss-after-christm=
as-morning-fire-armagh-chief-says/article_9fd287e2-a330-11ee-90de-7319c0164=
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<div dir=3D"auto">David Northrup-<div dir=3D"auto">I think you have being a=
n &quot;asshole&quot; confused with being a &quot;patriot&quot;. Have you e=
ver heard of being a &quot;gentleman&quot;?</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></di=
v><div dir=3D"auto"><a href=3D"https://photos.app.goo.gl/kPUyh2wHMT2UVpaJ6"=
 target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://photos.app.goo.gl/kPUyh2wHMT2=
UVpaJ6</a></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">If anyone wou=
ld like to help, please consider making a donation to the Armagh Volunteer =
Fire Department.</div><div dir=3D"auto">Cheers</div><div dir=3D"auto">Alber=
t</div><div dir=3D"auto">TRF</div><div dir=3D"auto">Onward and Upward=C2=A0=
</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_=
attr">On Wed, Dec 27, 2023, 2:04=E2=80=AFPM Greg Lemon &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 =
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><di=
v dir=3D"auto">Dave,<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Against m=
y better judgement.=C2=A0 Whether your statements are actionable is debatab=
le.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">However, the actionable in=
 this case has nothing to do with free speech and government action.=C2=A0 =
Freedom of speech relates to the limitations on the government taking actio=
n against you based on something you said (or wrote or otherwise communicat=
ed).</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">That doesn&#39;t ke=
ep a party who may be injured or damaged by something you say either verbal=
ly or in writing from suing you in a civil action.=C2=A0 Or as I like to sa=
y, in this great country of ours anybody can sue anybody for anything.</div=
><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Please don&#39;t make it pol=
itical when it is not.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Kind of a sad state of affairs when ever=
y little thing that doesn&#39;t go somebody&#39;s way or is perceived as an=
 attack, insult, or slight, has to attributed to one &quot;side&quot; or th=
e other .</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Greg Lemon=C2=
=A0</div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 27, 2023, 8:58 AM dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D=
"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left=
:1ex">

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
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<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Jim Henningsen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tr=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 27, 2023 5:41 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Larry Griffin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" r=
el=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">larryg=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nor=
eferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
m</a>&gt;; Listserv Triumph &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">trium=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Junk]Re: [TR] Roadster Factory Christmas day fire<u></u><u=
</div>
</div>
om" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">l=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer=
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<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
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<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Given how the people in the Roadster Factory Investm=
ent Program were treated after Charles Runyon died, it would not surprise m=
e if this fire was deliberate but done in a way that
 will not arouse suspicion.=C2=A0 I suspect the insurance payout will be mu=
ch more than the living business would have brought in a sale.=C2=A0 And co=
incidentally, the really valuable cars were in a different building and see=
med to have survived.
<u></u><u></u></p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt"><a href=3D"https://=
www.tribdem.com/news/roadster-factory-a-total-loss-after-christmas-morning-=
fire-armagh-chief-says/article_9fd287e2-a330-11ee-90de-7319c0164473.html" r=
el=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https:=
//www.tribdem.com/news/roadster-factory-a-total-loss-after-christmas-mornin=
g-fire-armagh-chief-says/article_9fd287e2-a330-11ee-90de-7319c0164473.html<=
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