Subject: Re: [TR] TR3a steering box

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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2023 12:42:04 -0600

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The are pretty easy to rebuild on your own.

I bought the parts from a Moss dealer (Tom's Import Toys in Portland
Oregon.)

  Ron

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Best place to have a TR3a steering box rebuilt?

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Dave,

I had mine done at TRF but that was about 20 years ago. Not sure if they 
can still do that sort of work.

Bob

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    <p>Dave,</p>
    <p>I had mine done at TRF but that was about 20 years ago. Not sure
      if they can still do that sort of work.</p>
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From: David Friedlander <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2023 14:42:21 -0500

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Dave;

I rebuilt or replaced every component of my TR3A steering assembly,
including the box, last year. The only part I didn't touch was the worm
gear in the box, though I replaced all the bearings on each end of the
worm. Despite every effort to make certain all parts were
within tolerances, installing shims in various combinations, I just
couldn't get the steering to feel right and the steering wheel required too
much effort. No doubt, better mechanics than I have succeeded here. I ended
up replacing the entire rack by pulling the front apron and radiator and
installing a Moss rack-and-pinion rack (Moss 667-248).. The steering now is
much easier and accurate.

Alternatively, you can have Macy's Garage rebuild your steering box for you
or follow their step-by-step instructions and brave it yourself.
https://macysgarage.com/stg-box-1.htm

Having said that, I note that it seems the price of British parts at Moss
and TRF have increased dramatically in the last 6-8 months.

Best of luck to you and Happy Thanksgiving!

Dave Friedlander
'59 TR3A

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ult" style=3D"font-family:&quot;comic sans ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:la=
rge;color:rgb(0,0,153)">Dave;</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fo=
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0,153)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;c=
omic sans ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">I rebuilt=
 or replaced every component of my TR3A steering assembly, including=C2=A0t=
he box,=C2=A0last year. The only part I didn&#39;t touch was the worm gear =
in the box, though I replaced all the bearings on each end of the worm. Des=
pite every effort to make certain all parts were within=C2=A0tolerances, in=
stalling shims in various combinations, I just couldn&#39;t get the steerin=
g to feel right and the steering wheel required too much effort. No doubt, =
better mechanics than I have succeeded here. I ended up replacing the entir=
e rack by pulling the front apron and radiator and installing a Moss rack-a=
nd-pinion rack (Moss 667-248).. The steering now is much easier and accurat=
e.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;comic=
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v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;comic sans ms&quot;,sa=
ns-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">Alternatively, you can have Ma=
cy&#39;s Garage rebuild your steering box for you or follow their step-by-s=
tep instructions and brave it yourself.=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://macysgarage=
.com/stg-box-1.htm">https://macysgarage.com/stg-box-1.htm</a></div><div cla=
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rif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"font-family:&quot;comic sans ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:lar=
ge;color:rgb(0,0,153)">Having said that, I note that it seems the price of =
British parts at Moss and TRF have increased dramatically in the last 6-8 m=
onths.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;comic s=
ans ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)"><br></div><div =
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py Thanksgiving!<br><br>Dave Friedlander</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
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Wow- good job.  I didn't think that removing the old worm and getting a new=
 one in place could be done by "mere mortals" !

From: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2023 3:37 PM
To: auprichard uprichard.net <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [TR] TR3a steering box

The factory shop manual has instructions.
I believe I made the "special tool."

uprichard.net>>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2023 1:51 PM
Subject: RE: [TR] TR3a steering box

How did you get the worm off the column?

Andrew Uprichard
Jackson, Michigan

@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2023 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3a steering box

The are pretty easy to rebuild on your own.
I bought the parts from a Moss dealer (Tom's Import Toys in Portland Oregon=
.)

  Ron

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<b>Subject:</b> RE: [TR] TR3a steering box<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-se=
rif">The factory shop manual has instructions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-se=
rif">I believe I made the &#8220;special tool.&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-se=
rif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
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<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">rjray.architect@gma=
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<b>Subject:</b> RE: [TR] TR3a steering box<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quo=
t;,serif;color:#1F497D">How did you get the worm off the column?<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
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t;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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t;,serif;color:#1F497D">Andrew Uprichard<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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t;,serif;color:#1F497D">Jackson, Michigan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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t;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">rjray.arch=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-se=
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rif">I bought the parts from a Moss dealer (Tom&#8217;s Import Toys in Port=
land Oregon.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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I rebuilt the box in my TR3.  The worm gear was in good condition.  That might be the most difficult part to replace.  I replaced the bushing for the rocker shaft and added second bushing opposite to that one if I remember correctly.  It was recommended as an upgrade/improvement.  I had a machine shop hone the new bushing to size.  I replaced all other bits a pieces necessary and available.
My steering box works great.
However, I think the suggestion of sending yours to Macy's is a great idea.  I haven't worked with them, but they have a solid reputation and obviously care about what they do.  
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   <span style="font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">I rebuilt the box in my TR3.&nbsp; The worm gear was in good condition.&nbsp; That might be the most difficult part to replace.&nbsp; I replaced the bushing for the rocker shaft and added second bushing opposite to that one if I remember correctly.&nbsp; It was recommended as an upgrade/improvement.&nbsp; I had a machine shop hone the new bushing to size.&nbsp; I replaced all other bits a pieces necessary and available.</span>
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