Subject: Re: [TR] TR3a temp sensor

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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 08:02:35 -0500

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Dave,

The temperature gauge probably did not work because the capillary tube has a
leak. There are companies that can install a new tube.

  Ron

From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of dave northrup
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2023 5:56 PM
To: Listers <[email-masked]>
Subject: [TR] TR3a temp sensor

Here is where I am.  Do I cut up the housing or cut the sensor?  I can turn
the sensor with pliars inside the housing but its clearly not coming out.  I
put it in a bucket and poured very hot water in there but the gage didn't
move, so I'm figuring the gage doesn't work.

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temperature gauge probably did not work because the capillary tube has a =
leak. There are companies that can install a new =
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&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>dave =
northrup<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 9, 2023 5:56 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
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temp sensor<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Here is =
where I am.&nbsp; Do I cut up the housing or cut the sensor?&nbsp; I can =
turn the sensor with pliars inside the housing but its clearly not =
coming out.&nbsp; I put it in a bucket and poured very hot water in =
there but the gage didn&#8217;t move, so I&#8217;m figuring the gage =
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It just crud holding it in.  If you can turn it, I would first just keep wor=
king that to see if it loosens enough to come out before any other drastic s=
olutions.   Maybe someone here can recommend a good decalcifing(sp) agent to=
 help it along. =20

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Here is where I am.  Do I cut up the housing or cut the sensor?  I can turn t=
he sensor with pliars inside the housing but its clearly not coming out.  I p=
ut it in a bucket and poured very hot water in there but the gage didn=E2=80=
=99t move, so I=E2=80=99m figuring the gage doesn=E2=80=99t work.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">It just crud holding it in. &nbsp;If you ca=
n turn it, I would first just keep working that to see if it loosens enough t=
o come out before any other drastic solutions. &nbsp; Maybe someone here can=
 recommend a good decalcifing(sp) agent to help it along. &nbsp;<br><br><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">=E2=80=9CShoot low sheriff, she=E2=80=99s riding a shetland=E2=80=
=9D =E2=80=A6B.Wills</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Aug 10, 2023, at 3:55 AM, d=
ave northrup &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Here is where I am.&nbsp; Do I cut up the housing or c=
ut the sensor?&nbsp; I can turn the sensor with pliars inside the housing bu=
t its clearly not coming out.&nbsp; I put it in a bucket and poured very hot=
 water in there but the gage didn=E2=80=99t move, so
 I=E2=80=99m figuring the gage doesn=E2=80=99t work.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 13:18:12 -0400 (EDT)

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Don't cut the housing unless you have a "lock" on a replacement. It would b=
e much harder to replace than the sensor. There may even be a way to replac=
e the original ether-filled system with an electric one. The old system alw=
ays seemed too prone to failure to me anyways!

> On 08/10/2023 9:02 AM EDT [email-masked] wrote:
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s a leak. There are companies that can install a new tube.
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> Here is where I am.  Do I cut up the housing or cut the sensor?  I can tu=
rn the sensor with pliars inside the housing but its clearly not coming out=
.  I put it in a bucket and poured very hot water in there but the gage did=
n=E2=80=99t move, so I=E2=80=99m figuring the gage doesn=E2=80=99t work.
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ether-filled system with an electric one. The old system always seemed too =
prone to failure to me anyways!</span>
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>The temperature gauge probably did not work because the capillary tube has=
 a leak. There are companies that can install a new tube.</span></p>=20
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rom:</span></strong><span style=3D"mso-ligatures: none;"> Triumphs &lt;triu=
[email-masked]&gt; <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>dave northrup=
<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Wednesday, August 9, 2023 5:56 PM<br><strong>To:=
</strong> Listers &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><strong>Subject:</stro=
ng> [TR] TR3a temp sensor</span></p>=20
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    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Here is where I am.&nbsp; Do I cut up the housin=
g or cut the sensor?&nbsp; I can turn the sensor with pliars inside the hou=
sing but its clearly not coming out.&nbsp; I put it in a bucket and poured =
very hot water in there but the gage didn=E2=80=99t move, so I=E2=80=99m fi=
guring the gage doesn=E2=80=99t work.</p>=20
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From: DAVE HOGYE <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 21:50:02 -0700 (PDT)

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I think the price to rebuild my TR3 temp gauge including replacing the capi=
llary tube was close to $300 ten years ago.  I replaced all my small gauges=
 with AutoMeter electric gauges for about the same price or less.  They loo=
k very similar to the original units and have beveled glass but with orange=
 needles. =20
A TR4 t-stat housing will work if you can't find a TR3 unit.  They are slig=
htly different in appearance.  I think the TR4 housing is die cast, might b=
e pot metal and TR3 looks sand cast and is aluminum.  I believe TR4s had an=
 electrical temp gauge that is otherwise exactly like a TR3. =20
Dave H.

> On 08/10/2023 10:18 AM PDT Tom Walling <[email-masked]> wrote:
> =20
> =20
> Don't cut the housing unless you have a "lock" on a replacement. It would=
 be much harder to replace than the sensor. There may even be a way to repl=
ace the original ether-filled system with an electric one. The old system a=
lways seemed too prone to failure to me anyways!
> > The temperature gauge probably did not work because the capillary tube =
has a leak. There are companies that can install a new tube.
> >=20
> > =20
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> >   Ron
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> > =20
> >=20
> > =20
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> > From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of dave nort=
hrup
> > Here is where I am.  Do I cut up the housing or cut the sensor?  I can =
turn the sensor with pliars inside the housing but its clearly not coming o=
ut.  I put it in a bucket and poured very hot water in there but the gage d=
idn=E2=80=99t move, so I=E2=80=99m figuring the gage doesn=E2=80=99t work.
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olor: #333333;">
   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">I think the pri=
ce to rebuild my TR3 temp gauge including replacing the capillary tube was =
close to $300 ten years ago.&nbsp; I replaced all my small gauges with Auto=
Meter electric gauges for about the same price or less.&nbsp; They look ver=
y similar to the original units and have beveled glass but with orange need=
les.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>
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tica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;">
   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">A TR4 t-stat ho=
using will work if you can't find a TR3 unit.&nbsp; They are slightly diffe=
rent in appearance.&nbsp; I think the TR4 housing is die cast, might be pot=
 metal and TR3 looks sand cast and is aluminum.&nbsp; I believe TR4s had an=
 electrical temp gauge that is otherwise exactly like a TR3.&nbsp;&nbsp;</s=
pan>
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color: #333333;">
    <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Don't cut the =
housing unless you have a "lock" on a replacement. It would be much harder =
to replace than the sensor. There may even be a way to replace the original=
 ether-filled system with an electric one. The old system always seemed too=
 prone to failure to me anyways!</span>
   </div>=20
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     On 08/10/2023 9:02 AM EDT [email-masked] wrote:
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">&nbsp;</span></p>=20
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">The temperature gauge probably did not work because the capillary tube ha=
s a leak. There are companies that can install a new tube.</span></p>=20
     <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;=
">&nbsp;</span></p>=20
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">&nbsp; Ron</span></p>=20
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From:</span></strong><span style=3D"mso-ligatures: none;"> Triumphs &lt;tri=
[email-masked]&gt; <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>dave northru=
p<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Wednesday, August 9, 2023 5:56 PM<br><strong>To=
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ong> [TR] TR3a temp sensor</span></p>=20
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     <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Here is where I am.&nbsp; Do I cut up the housi=
ng or cut the sensor?&nbsp; I can turn the sensor with pliars inside the ho=
using but its clearly not coming out.&nbsp; I put it in a bucket and poured=
 very hot water in there but the gage didn=E2=80=99t move, so I=E2=80=99m f=
iguring the gage doesn=E2=80=99t work.</p>=20
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