Subject: Re: [TR] J-Type Overdrive - Stag

From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2023 20:07:41 +0000 (UTC)

--===============7784923193801593682==
	boundary="----=_Part_2002174_752316567.1688414861246"

------=_Part_2002174_752316567.1688414861246
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Does it switch in and out with no input from you or is it necessary for you=
 to re-engage each time?=C2=A0 If it is the former it might be something as=
 simple as the adjustment of one of the interlock switches on top of the tr=
ansmission.=C2=A0 If it is set right at the ragged edge of actuation it can=
 be switching from open to closed to open just due to the vibrations.=C2=A0=
 Also check the wiring for a loose or poorly crimped connector.=C2=A0=20

Dave=20

=20

    On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 02:22:56 PM CDT, Lee&John Howard <leejohn7@g=
mail.com> wrote: =20
=20
 Looking for some help with my 73 Stag's overdrive. After some work behind =
the dash instigated by my recovering the center console, on the very first =
drive OD would not stay engaged.=C2=A0 After being switched on it would imm=
ediately begin to flip in and out, not holding OD for more than a second or=
 two. Could this be a wiring issue? I'll be checking the switch a little la=
ter. Any other ideas? Its been working flawlessly since a rebuild maybe 10 =
years ago.=20
Many thanksJohnH

--=20

=C2=A0415 891 8406 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=20
** [email-masked] **

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs=C2=A0 http://www.team.net/a=
rchive

[email-masked]
 =20
------=_Part_2002174_752316567.1688414861246
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydp21436f6fyahoo-style-wrap" style=
=3D"font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Does it switch in and out with no input from=
 you or is it necessary for you to re-engage each time?&nbsp; If it is the =
former it might be something as simple as the adjustment of one of the inte=
rlock switches on top of the transmission.&nbsp; If it is set right at the =
ragged edge of actuation it can be switching from open to closed to open ju=
st due to the vibrations.&nbsp; Also check the wiring for a loose or poorly=
 crimped connector.&nbsp; <br></div><div><br></div><div class=3D"ydp21436f6=
fsignature"><div style=3D"color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: no=
rmal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal; font-fami=
ly: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size-adjust: none;"><div style=3D"co=
lor: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; =
font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-s=
erif; font-size-adjust: none;"><div><font size=3D"4">Dave <br></font></div>=
<div><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"><=
br></span></div><br></div></div></div></div>
        <div><br></div><div><br></div>
       =20
        </div><div id=3D"ydp17e4ae3dyahoo_quoted_8491281208" class=3D"ydp17=
e4ae3dyahoo_quoted">
            <div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, s=
ans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
               =20
                <div>
                    On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 02:22:56 PM CDT, Lee&amp;Joh=
n Howard &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp17e4ae3dyiv0008542781"><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<div>Looking for some help with my 73 Stag's overdrive. After some work beh=
ind the dash instigated by my recovering the center console, on the very fi=
rst drive OD would not stay engaged.&nbsp; After being switched on it would=
 immediately begin to flip in and out, not holding OD for more than a secon=
d or two. Could this be a wiring issue? I'll be checking the switch a littl=
e later. Any other ideas? Its been working flawlessly since a rebuild maybe=
 10 years ago. <br></div><div>Many thanks</div><div>JohnH<br></div><div><br=
><span class=3D"ydp17e4ae3dyiv0008542781gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><=
br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydp17e4ae3dyiv0008542781gmail_signature"><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;415 891 8=
406</div><div> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br><img alt=3D"" data-=
inlineimagemanipulating=3D"true" data-id=3D"1688414622080"><img alt=3D"" da=
ta-inlineimagemanipulating=3D"true" data-id=3D"1688414622080"></div></div><=
/div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
</div>** <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> **<br><br>Donate: <a href=3D"http:/=
/www.team.net/donate.html" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">http://www.te=
am.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail=
/triumphs" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail=
/triumphs</a>&nbsp; <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/archive" rel=3D"nofollow=
" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br><br>Unsubscribe/Mana=
ge: <a href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey@c=
s.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/opt=
ions/triumphs/[email-masked]</a><br></div>
            </div>
        </div></body></html>
------=_Part_2002174_752316567.1688414861246--

--===============7784923193801593682==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

** [email-masked] **

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs  http://www.team.net/archive

--===============7784923193801593682==--

---

From: "Richard Poniarski" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2023 21:05:33 +0000

--===============0285216205670989657==
 boundary="------=_MB0F9CE488-4F12-490F-9467-32CDB5FBA38B"

--------=_MB0F9CE488-4F12-490F-9467-32CDB5FBA38B
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

     My Stag has the 4 speed without overdrive, but I have a '78 MGB with=
=20
overdrive. Have had a similar issue. Replaced the switch and it solved=20
the problem.

Richard M. Poniarski
1971 Triumph Stag Series 1
1978 MGB Tourer

------ Original Message ------
>From "Lee&John Howard" <[email-masked]>
To "triumph list list" <[email-masked]>
Date 7/3/2023 14:47:33
Subject [TR] J-Type Overdrive - Stag

>Looking for some help with my 73 Stag's overdrive. After some work=20
>behind the dash instigated by my recovering the center console, on the=20
>very first drive OD would not stay engaged.  After being switched on it=20
>would immediately begin to flip in and out, not holding OD for more=20
>than a second or two. Could this be a wiring issue? I'll be checking=20
>the switch a little later. Any other ideas? Its been working flawlessly=20
>since a rebuild maybe 10 years ago.
>Many thanks
>JohnH
>
>--
>
>
>  415 891 8406
>
--------=_MB0F9CE488-4F12-490F-9467-32CDB5FBA38B
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<html><head><style id=3D"css_styles" type=3D"text/css"><!--blockquote.cite=
 { margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; padding-left: 10px; padding-right:0p=
x; border-left: 1px solid #cccccc }
blockquote.cite2 {margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; padding-left: 10px;=
 padding-right:0px; border-left: 1px solid #cccccc; margin-top: 3px; padding=
-top: 0px; }
a img { border: 0px; }
li[style=3D'text-align: center;'], li[style=3D'text-align: center; '], li[s=
tyle=3D'text-align: right;'], li[style=3D'text-align: right; '] {  list-sty=
le-position: inside;}
body { font-family: 'Adobe Garamond Pro'; font-size: 16pt; font-weight: bol=
d; }
.quote { margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em; border-left: 5px #ebebeb soli=
d; padding-left: 0.3em; }
--></style></head><body><div style=3D"clear:both">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 My Stag has =
the 4 speed without overdrive, but I have a '78 MGB with overdrive. Have h=
ad a similar issue. Replaced the switch and it solved the problem.</div><di=
v style=3D"clear:both"><br /></div><div style=3D"clear:both"><div><br /></d=
iv><div id=3D"signature_old" style=3D"clear:both"><div id=3D"x47fb2b3d80804=
cf5bccde5220c9aa9ec"><div><font color=3D"#0000ff" style=3D"font-size: 24pt;=
">Richard M. Poniarski</font></div><div>1971 Triumph Stag Series 1</div><di=
v>1978 MGB Tourer</div><div></div></div></div><br style=3D"clear:both" /></=
div>
<strong><div><br /></div>
<div>
<div>------ Original Message ------</div>
<div>From "Lee&amp;John Howard" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">l=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;</div>
<div>To "triumph list list" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;</div>
<div>Date 7/3/2023 14:47:33</div>
<div>Subject [TR] J-Type Overdrive - Stag</div></div></strong><div><br /></=
div>
<div id=3D"x935486a232f9481"><blockquote cite=3D"CAJaD1DMr8eyPpHL2k+TCFpqd7=
[email-masked]" type=3D"cite" class=3D"cite2">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Looking for some help with my 73 Stag's overdrive. Af=
ter some work behind the dash instigated by my recovering the center consol=
e, on the very first drive OD would not stay engaged.=C2=A0 After being swi=
tched on it would immediately begin to flip in and out, not holding OD for=
 more than a second or two. Could this be a wiring issue? I'll be checking t=
he switch a little later. Any other ideas? Its been working flawlessly sinc=
e a rebuild maybe 10 years ago. <br /></div><div>Many thanks</div><div>John=
H<br /></div><div><br /><span class=3D"gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><b=
r /><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_sign=
ature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div=
>=C2=A0415 891 8406</div><div> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <br /><=
img alt=3D"" /><img alt=3D"" /></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></=
div></div></div></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div>
</body></html>
--------=_MB0F9CE488-4F12-490F-9467-32CDB5FBA38B--

--===============0285216205670989657==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

--===============0285216205670989657==--

---

From: "Lee&John Howard" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2023 14:35:19 -0700

--===============7869931788962604286==

--000000000000aa20a005ff9bf3f1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes, it switches in and out all by itself. When I then switch back to 4th
she behaves normally. I'll first check where the OD sub-harness meets the
wiring that goes up the shift lever. In that space several wire bunches are
scrunched together.
Thankyou Dave.
JohnH

On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 1:07=E2=80=AFPM DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> wr=
ote:

> Does it switch in and out with no input from you or is it necessary for
> you to re-engage each time?  If it is the former it might be something as
> simple as the adjustment of one of the interlock switches on top of the
> transmission.  If it is set right at the ragged edge of actuation it can =
be
> switching from open to closed to open just due to the vibrations.  Also
> check the wiring for a loose or poorly crimped connector.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 02:22:56 PM CDT, Lee&John Howard <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
> Looking for some help with my 73 Stag's overdrive. After some work behind
> the dash instigated by my recovering the center console, on the very firs=
t
> drive OD would not stay engaged.  After being switched on it would
> immediately begin to flip in and out, not holding OD for more than a seco=
nd
> or two. Could this be a wiring issue? I'll be checking the switch a littl=
e
> later. Any other ideas? Its been working flawlessly since a rebuild maybe
> 10 years ago.
> Many thanks
> JohnH
>
> --
>
>
>  415 891 8406
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/[email-masked]
>

--=20

 415 891 8406

--000000000000aa20a005ff9bf3f1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Yes, it switches in and out all by itself. When I the=
n switch back to 4th she behaves normally. I&#39;ll first check where the O=
D sub-harness meets the wiring that goes up the shift lever. In that space =
several wire bunches are scrunched together.</div><div>Thankyou Dave.</div>=
<div>JohnH<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" c=
lass=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 1:07=E2=80=AFPM DAVID MASSEY &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;=
border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D=
"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Does it switch in and out with no input from you or is it necessary for =
you to re-engage each time?=C2=A0 If it is the former it might be something=
 as simple as the adjustment of one of the interlock switches on top of the=
 transmission.=C2=A0 If it is set right at the ragged edge of actuation it =
can be switching from open to closed to open just due to the vibrations.=C2=
=A0 Also check the wiring for a loose or poorly crimped connector.=C2=A0 <b=
r></div><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"color:black;font-style:normal;fon=
t-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12pt;line-height:normal;font-=
family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size-adjust:none"><div style=3D"colo=
r:black;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:=
12pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size-ad=
just:none"><div><font size=3D"4">Dave <br></font></div><div><span style=3D"=
font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black"><br></span></div><br></d=
iv></div></div></div>
        <div><br></div><div><br></div>
       =20
        </div><div id=3D"m_2845058754172171572ydp17e4ae3dyahoo_quoted_84912=
81208">
            <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,=
Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
               =20
                <div>
                    On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 02:22:56 PM CDT, Lee&amp;Joh=
n Howard &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">leejoh=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"m_2845058754172171572ydp17e4ae3dyiv00085427=
81"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Looking for some help with my 73 Stag&#39;s overd=
rive. After some work behind the dash instigated by my recovering the cente=
r console, on the very first drive OD would not stay engaged.=C2=A0 After b=
eing switched on it would immediately begin to flip in and out, not holding=
 OD for more than a second or two. Could this be a wiring issue? I&#39;ll b=
e checking the switch a little later. Any other ideas? Its been working fla=
wlessly since a rebuild maybe 10 years ago. <br></div><div>Many thanks</div=
><div>JohnH<br></div><div><br><span>-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0415 891 8406=
</div><div> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <br><img alt=3D""><img alt=
=3D""></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></d=
iv></div>
</div>** <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> **<br><br>Donate: <a href=3D"http:/=
/www.team.net/donate.html" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">http://www.te=
am.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail=
/triumphs" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail=
/triumphs</a>=C2=A0 <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/archive" rel=3D"nofollow=
" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br><br>Unsubscribe/Mana=
ge: <a href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey@c=
s.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/opt=
ions/triumphs/[email-masked]</a><br></div>
            </div>
        </div></div></blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br><span class=3D=
"gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_sign=
ature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>=C2=
=A0415 891 8406</div><div> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <br><img al=
t=3D""><img alt=3D""></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>=
</div></div>

--000000000000aa20a005ff9bf3f1--

--===============7869931788962604286==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

--===============7869931788962604286==--

---

From: dave northrup <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2023 21:43:01 +0000

--===============4009206057673237283==
Content-Language: en-US
	boundary="_000_339bcf4af0be4c90b37999dde891db2eranteercom_"

--_000_339bcf4af0be4c90b37999dde891db2eranteercom_
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64

--_000_339bcf4af0be4c90b37999dde891db2eranteercom_
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64

--_000_339bcf4af0be4c90b37999dde891db2eranteercom_--

--===============4009206057673237283==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

--===============4009206057673237283==--

---

From: dave northrup <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2023 22:49:29 +0000

--===============8212125622659833683==
Content-Language: en-US
	boundary="_000_1c7260479a53438d9982027c11add687ranteercom_"

--_000_1c7260479a53438d9982027c11add687ranteercom_
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64

--_000_1c7260479a53438d9982027c11add687ranteercom_
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64

--_000_1c7260479a53438d9982027c11add687ranteercom_--

--===============8212125622659833683==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

--===============8212125622659833683==--

---

From: <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2023 17:42:54 -0600

This is a multipart message in MIME format.

--===============3453324691658709892==
	boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01D9ADD5.CE505230"
Content-Language: en-us

This is a multipart message in MIME format.

------=_NextPart_000_0008_01D9ADD5.CE505230
	charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

John,

Well there is good news and bad news.   Like Dave  thinks, if it is the =
top cover switches, the good news is the original Lucas switches can be =
carefully disassembled, contacts cleaned, lubricated, and reassembled.  =
Beware if the available replacement switches as they are usually =
garbage.

=20

I have some photos of that process.

=20

The bad news is, on a Stag that requires dropping the transmission to =
get to the switches, OR, cutting a hole in the metal transmission cover =
and making a larger plate to cover the access hole.

=20

Glenn aka StagByTriumph Garage

=20

From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Lee&John =
Howard
Sent: Monday, July 3, 2023 3:35 PM
To: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Cc: triumph list list <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] J-Type Overdrive - Stag

=20

Yes, it switches in and out all by itself. When I then switch back to =
4th she behaves normally. I'll first check where the OD sub-harness =
meets the wiring that goes up the shift lever. In that space several =
wire bunches are scrunched together.

Thankyou Dave.

JohnH

=20

On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 1:07=E2=80=AFPM DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked] =

Does it switch in and out with no input from you or is it necessary for =
you to re-engage each time?  If it is the former it might be something =
as simple as the adjustment of one of the interlock switches on top of =
the transmission.  If it is set right at the ragged edge of actuation it =
can be switching from open to closed to open just due to the vibrations. =
 Also check the wiring for a loose or poorly crimped connector. =20

=20

Dave=20

=20

=20

=20

=20

On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 02:22:56 PM CDT, Lee&John Howard =

=20

=20

Looking for some help with my 73 Stag's overdrive. After some work =
behind the dash instigated by my recovering the center console, on the =
very first drive OD would not stay engaged.  After being switched on it =
would immediately begin to flip in and out, not holding OD for more than =
a second or two. Could this be a wiring issue? I'll be checking the =
switch a little later. Any other ideas? Its been working flawlessly =
since a rebuild maybe 10 years ago.=20

Many thanks

JohnH

--=20

=20

=20

 415 891 8406

      =20

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs  =

--=20

=20

=20

 415 891 8406

      =20

------=_NextPart_000_0008_01D9ADD5.CE505230
	charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" =
xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" =
xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" =
xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" =
xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta =
http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><meta =
name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 15 (filtered =
medium)"><style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
	{font-family:Helvetica;
	panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;}
@font-face
	{font-family:"Cambria Math";
	panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
	{font-family:Calibri;
	panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
	{margin:0in;
	font-size:11.0pt;
	font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
	{mso-style-priority:99;
	color:blue;
	text-decoration:underline;}
span.gmailsignatureprefix
	{mso-style-name:gmail_signature_prefix;}
span.EmailStyle20
	{mso-style-type:personal-compose;
	font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
	color:windowtext;}
.MsoChpDefault
	{mso-style-type:export-only;
	font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
@page WordSection1
	{size:8.5in 11.0in;
	margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
div.WordSection1
	{page:WordSection1;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit">
<o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue =
vlink=3Dpurple style=3D'word-wrap:break-word'><div =
class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>John,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Well there is good news and bad news.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Like =
Dave =C2=A0thinks, if it is the top cover switches, the good news is the =
original Lucas switches can be carefully disassembled, contacts cleaned, =
lubricated, and reassembled.=C2=A0 Beware if the available replacement =
switches as they are usually garbage.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I have some =
photos of that process.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The bad news =
is, on a Stag that requires dropping the transmission to get to the =
switches, OR, cutting a hole in the metal transmission cover and making =
a larger plate to cover the access hole.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Glenn aka =
StagByTriumph Garage<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lee&amp;John =
Howard<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 3, 2023 3:35 PM<br><b>To:</b> DAVID =
MASSEY &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> triumph list list =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] J-Type =
Overdrive - Stag<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Yes, it switches in and out all by itself. When I then =
switch back to 4th she behaves normally. I'll first check where the OD =
sub-harness meets the wiring that goes up the shift lever. In that space =
several wire bunches are scrunched together.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Thankyou Dave.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>JohnH<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 1:07=E2=80=AFPM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Does it switch =
in and out with no input from you or is it necessary for you to =
re-engage each time?&nbsp; If it is the former it might be something as =
simple as the adjustment of one of the interlock switches on top of the =
transmission.&nbsp; If it is set right at the ragged edge of actuation =
it can be switching from open to closed to open just due to the =
vibrations.&nbsp; Also check the wiring for a loose or poorly crimped =
connector.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dav=
e </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p></div></div><div =
id=3D"m_2845058754172171572ydp17e4ae3dyahoo_quoted_8491281208"><div><div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 02:22:56 PM CDT, Lee&amp;John Howard =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote: =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><div =
id=3D"m_2845058754172171572ydp17e4ae3dyiv0008542781"><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Looking for some help with my 73 Stag's overdrive. After some work =
behind the dash instigated by my recovering the center console, on the =
very first drive OD would not stay engaged.&nbsp; After being switched =
on it would immediately begin to flip in and out, not holding OD for =
more than a second or two. Could this be a wiring issue? I'll be =
checking the switch a little later. Any other ideas? Its been working =
flawlessly since a rebuild maybe 10 years ago. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Many thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>JohnH<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><br>-- =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&nbsp;415 891 8406<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
<br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div=
></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>** <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> **<br><br>Donate: <a =
href=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.html" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Archive: <a =
href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a>&nbsp; <a =
href=3D"http://www.team.net/archive" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br><br>Unsubscribe/Mana=
ge: <a =
href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/[email-masked]=
" =
target=3D"_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1mas=
[email-masked]</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote>=
</div><p class=3DMsoNormal><br clear=3Dall><br><span =
class=3Dgmailsignatureprefix>-- =
</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;415 891 8406<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
<br><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>=
</div></div></div></body></html>
------=_NextPart_000_0008_01D9ADD5.CE505230--

--===============3453324691658709892==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

--===============3453324691658709892==--

---

From: "Lee&John Howard" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2023 16:51:14 -0700

--===============0312482402202635029==

--000000000000bc465905ff9dd98f
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks Glen
I think it may have just been the connections under the wood trim center
piece where they are crowded by the window  and light switch wires.  They
seemed a bit loose.   OD tested OK on a short drive, but the test was a bit
confused by a gulping Hiolley. But that's another story.  It will take a
serious drive to be sure it  is now OK.
I dread getting at the top cover switches -probably beyond my  ability at
this point.
John

On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 4:43=E2=80=AFPM <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

> John,
>
> Well there is good news and bad news.   Like Dave  thinks, if it is the
> top cover switches, the good news is the original Lucas switches can be
> carefully disassembled, contacts cleaned, lubricated, and reassembled.
> Beware if the available replacement switches as they are usually garbage.
>
>
>
> The bad news is, on a Stag that requires dropping the transmission to get
> to the switches, OR, cutting a hole in the metal transmission cover and
> making a larger plate to cover the access hole.
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs <[email-masked]> *On Behalf Of *Lee&Joh=
n
> Howard
> *Sent:* Monday, July 3, 2023 3:35 PM
> *To:* DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
> *Cc:* triumph list list <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] J-Type Overdrive - Stag
>
>
>
> wiring that goes up the shift lever. In that space several wire bunches a=
re
> scrunched together.
>
> Thankyou Dave.
>
> JohnH
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 1:07=E2=80=AFPM DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> =
be
t
nd
e

--=20

 415 891 8406

--000000000000bc465905ff9dd98f
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Thanks Glen</div><div>I think it may have just been t=
he connections under the wood trim center piece where they are crowded by t=
he window=C2=A0 and light switch wires.=C2=A0 They seemed a bit loose.=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 OD tested OK on a short drive, but the test was a bit confused by=
 a gulping Hiolley. But that&#39;s another story.=C2=A0 It will take a seri=
ous drive to be sure it=C2=A0 is now OK.</div><div>I dread getting at the t=
op cover switches -probably beyond my=C2=A0 ability at this point.</div><di=
v>John<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 4:43=E2=80=AFPM &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div =
class=3D"msg-1705503665728203828"><div style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;"=
 lang=3D"EN-US"><div class=3D"m_-1705503665728203828WordSection1"><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">John,<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Well there is =
good news and bad news.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Like Dave =C2=A0thinks, if it is the to=
p cover switches, the good news is the original Lucas switches can be caref=
ully disassembled, contacts cleaned, lubricated, and reassembled.=C2=A0 Bew=
are if the available replacement switches as they are usually garbage.<u></=
u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">I have some photos of that process.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The bad news is, on=
 a Stag that requires dropping the transmission to get to the switches, OR,=
 cutting a hole in the metal transmission cover and making a larger plate t=
o cover the access hole.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Glenn aka StagByTriumph Garage<u></u><=
u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div style=3D"bord=
er-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;border-style:solid none=
 none;border-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
am.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <b>On Beh=
alf Of </b>Lee&amp;John Howard<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 3, 2023 3:35 PM=
<br><b>To:</b> DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targe=
t=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> triumph list list &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@auto=
x.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] J-Type Overdrive - Stag<u></=
u><u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Yes, it switches in and out all by itself. When I t=
hen switch back to 4th she behaves normally. I&#39;ll first check where the=
 OD sub-harness meets the wiring that goes up the shift lever. In that spac=
e several wire bunches are scrunched together.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thankyou Dave.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">JohnH<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u=
></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 =
at 1:07=E2=80=AFPM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" t=
arget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><=
blockquote style=3D"border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb=
(204,204,204);border-style:none none none solid;border-width:medium medium =
medium 1pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div=
><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Does it switch in and out with no input=
 from you or is it necessary for you to re-engage each time?=C2=A0 If it is=
 the former it might be something as simple as the adjustment of one of the=
 interlock switches on top of the transmission.=C2=A0 If it is set right at=
 the ragged edge of actuation it can be switching from open to closed to op=
en just due to the vibrations.=C2=A0 Also check the wiring for a loose or p=
oorly crimped connector.=C2=A0 <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,=
sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&qu=
ot;,sans-serif;color:black">Dave </span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-=
family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><=
/div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:=
&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;=
Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div></=
div></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div></div><div=
 id=3D"m_-1705503665728203828m_2845058754172171572ydp17e4ae3dyahoo_quoted_8=
491281208"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">On Monday,=
 July 3, 2023 at 02:22:56 PM CDT, Lee&amp;John Howard &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote: <u=
></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42=
)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:r=
gb(38,40,42)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><div id=3D"m_-17055=
03665728203828m_2845058754172171572ydp17e4ae3dyiv0008542781"><div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetic=
a&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Looking for some help with my 73 St=
ag&#39;s overdrive. After some work behind the dash instigated by my recove=
ring the center console, on the very first drive OD would not stay engaged.=
=C2=A0 After being switched on it would immediately begin to flip in and ou=
t, not holding OD for more than a second or two. Could this be a wiring iss=
ue? I&#39;ll be checking the switch a little later. Any other ideas? Its be=
en working flawlessly since a rebuild maybe 10 years ago. <u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;fon=
t-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Many thanks<=
u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,4=
2)">JohnH<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:r=
gb(38,40,42)"><br>-- <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><div=
><div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><u></=
u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40=
,42)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;colo=
r:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0415 891 8406<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetic=
a&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 <br><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>=
</div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(=
38,40,42)">** <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">=
[email-masked]</a> **<br><br>Donate: <a href=3D"http://www.team.ne=
t/donate.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Arc=
hive: <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs" target=3D"_blank">=
http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a>=C2=A0 <a href=3D"http://www.team=
.net/archive" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br><br>Unsu=
bscribe/Manage: <a href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/d=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/=
triumphs/[email-masked]</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div><=
/div></blockquote></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br clear=3D"all"><br><span =
class=3D"m_-1705503665728203828gmailsignatureprefix">-- </span><u></u><u></=
u></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0415 891 8406<u></u=
><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 <br><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><=
/div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br clear=3D"al=
l"><br><span class=3D"gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr=
" class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></div><d=
iv><br></div><div>=C2=A0415 891 8406</div><div> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 <br><img alt=3D""><img alt=3D""></div></div></div></div></div></d=
iv></div></div></div></div></div>

--000000000000bc465905ff9dd98f--

--===============0312482402202635029==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

--===============0312482402202635029==--

---

From: Paul Tegler <[email-masked]> mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.aol
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2023 21:35:55 -0400

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--===============5807726403815808430==
 boundary="------------uDJiDij4JPEQlECLdqMgU03w"
Content-Language: en-US

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--------------uDJiDij4JPEQlECLdqMgU03w
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

..could also be fluid level .... pump starvation.
If you can hold the shift lever to one side or push fore/aft a tad and 
it stays engaged,,,,it's mostly likely an interlock switch wear issue.

ptegler

On 7/3/2023 5:35 PM, Lee&John Howard wrote:
> Yes, it switches in and out all by itself. When I then switch back to 
> 4th she behaves normally. I'll first check where the OD sub-harness 
> meets the wiring that goes up the shift lever. In that space several 
> On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 1:07 PM DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>     Does it switch in and out with no input from you or is it
>     necessary for you to re-engage each time?  If it is the former it
>     might be something as simple as the adjustment of one of the
>     interlock switches on top of the transmission.  If it is set right
>     at the ragged edge of actuation it can be switching from open to
>     closed to open just due to the vibrations.  Also check the wiring
>     for a loose or poorly crimped connector.
>
>     Dave
>
>
>
>
>     On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 02:22:56 PM CDT, Lee&John Howard
>     <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
>     Looking for some help with my 73 Stag's overdrive. After some work
>     behind the dash instigated by my recovering the center console, on
>     the very first drive OD would not stay engaged.  After being
>     switched on it would immediately begin to flip in and out, not
>     holding OD for more than a second or two. Could this be a wiring
>     issue? I'll be checking the switch a little later. Any other
>     ideas? Its been working flawlessly since a rebuild maybe 10 years
>     ago.
>     Many thanks
>     JohnH
>
>     -- 
>
>
>      415 891 8406
>
> [email-masked]  **
>
> Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs   http://www.team.net/archive
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/[email-masked]

-- 
Paul Tegler
[email-masked]   www.teglerizer.com

--------------uDJiDij4JPEQlECLdqMgU03w
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

<html>
  <head>
    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
  </head>
  <body>
    <p>..could also be fluid level .... pump starvation.<br>
      If you can hold the shift lever to one side or push fore/aft a tad
      and it stays engaged,,,,it's mostly likely an interlock switch
      wear issue.</p>
    <p>ptegler<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/3/2023 5:35 PM, Lee&amp;John
      Howard wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:[email-masked]">
      <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
      <div dir="ltr">
        <div>Yes, it switches in and out all by itself. When I then
          switch back to 4th she behaves normally. I'll first check
          where the OD sub-harness meets the wiring that goes up the
          shift lever. In that space several wire bunches are scrunched
          together.</div>
        <div>Thankyou Dave.</div>
        <div>JohnH<br>
        </div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 1:07 PM
          DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
          0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
          <div>
            <div
              style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px">
              <div>
                <div dir="ltr">Does it switch in and out with no input
                  from you or is it necessary for you to re-engage each
                  time?  If it is the former it might be something as
                  simple as the adjustment of one of the interlock
                  switches on top of the transmission.  If it is set
                  right at the ragged edge of actuation it can be
                  switching from open to closed to open just due to the
                  vibrations.  Also check the wiring for a loose or
                  poorly crimped connector.  <br>
                </div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <div
style="color:black;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size-adjust:none">
                    <div
style="color:black;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size-adjust:none">
                      <div><font size="4">Dave <br>
                        </font></div>
                      <div><span
                          style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black"><br>
                        </span></div>
                      <br>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
            </div>
            <div
              id="m_2845058754172171572ydp17e4ae3dyahoo_quoted_8491281208">
              <div style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica
Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
                <div> On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 02:22:56 PM CDT,
                  Lee&amp;John Howard &lt;<a
                    href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                  wrote: </div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <div
                    id="m_2845058754172171572ydp17e4ae3dyiv0008542781">
                    <div dir="ltr">
                      <div>Looking for some help with my 73 Stag's
                        overdrive. After some work behind the dash
                        instigated by my recovering the center console,
                        on the very first drive OD would not stay
                        engaged.  After being switched on it would
                        immediately begin to flip in and out, not
                        holding OD for more than a second or two. Could
                        this be a wiring issue? I'll be checking the
                        switch a little later. Any other ideas? Its been
                        working flawlessly since a rebuild maybe 10
                        years ago. <br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Many thanks</div>
                      <div>JohnH<br>
                      </div>
                      <div><br>
                        <span>-- </span><br>
                        <div dir="ltr">
                          <div dir="ltr">
                            <div>
                              <div dir="ltr">
                                <div>
                                  <div dir="ltr">
                                    <div>
                                      <div dir="ltr">
                                        <div>
                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div> 415 891 8406</div>
                                            <div>        <br>
                                              <img alt=""
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"><img
                                                alt=""
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"></div>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  ** <a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                    rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>
                  **<br>
                  <br>
                  Donate: <a href="http://www.team.net/donate.html"
                    rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>
                  Archive: <a
                    href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs"
                    rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a> 
                  <a href="http://www.team.net/archive" rel="nofollow"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br>
                  <br>
                  Unsubscribe/Manage: <a
                    href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/[email-masked]"
                    rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/[email-masked]</a><br>
                </div>
              </div>
            </div>
          </div>
        </blockquote>
      </div>
      <br clear="all">
      <br>
      <span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br>
      <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">
        <div dir="ltr">
          <div>
            <div dir="ltr">
              <div>
                <div dir="ltr">
                  <div>
                    <div dir="ltr">
                      <div>
                        <div dir="ltr">
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div> 415 891 8406</div>
                          <div>        <br>
                            <img alt="" moz-do-not-send="true"><img
                              alt="" moz-do-not-send="true"></div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </div>
            </div>
          </div>
        </div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <fieldset class="moz-mime-attachment-header"></fieldset>
      <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">** <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> **

Archive: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs</a>  <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.team.net/archive">http://www.team.net/archive</a>

</pre>
    </blockquote>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Paul Tegler
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.teglerizer.com">www.teglerizer.com</a></pre>
  </body>
</html>

--------------uDJiDij4JPEQlECLdqMgU03w--

--===============5807726403815808430==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

--===============5807726403815808430==--