Subject: Re: [TR] generator vs alternator

From: Anthony Rhodes <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2023 17:49:32 -0400

If you only have the original electrical devices with their normal power demands, then the stock generator is capable of handling everything.

Note: the original headlights may have been about 40 W each compared to nearly 50% more than that for modern lights.

I have a stock generator, a good voltage, regulator, and a few LED lights. The headlights are NOT LED. They are H4 halogen. The generator keeps up with everything just fine.

I used the LED tail lights. I did not change any of the other running lights.

I think that my total power demand is slightly less than original.

I see no good reason to switch to an alternator!

However, if I were to add some driving lights, then I probably do not have enough power output from the stock generator.

 on the other hand, switching to LED headlights and LED driving lights probably would reduce my overall power demand from where it is right now.

I have not switched my headlights to LED because I am not convinced that the H4 LED replacements are as good as the halogens for the beam pattern . 

-Tony

Sent from my 1837 Babbage Analytical Engine

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> From: dave northrup <[email-masked]>
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> Subject: [TR] generator vs alternator
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> Recently picked up a 59 TR3 which has an alternator conversion.  Since the engine was separate, I have no idea how well the generator works or if at all.  It is still in the engine compartment, wires connected (unlike the engine).  how can I test it?
> 
> Given the current availability of LED lights, and since I have no interest in installing a radio, should I try to keep the current setup (little joke there) or go back to a generator?
> 
> Are there wiring diagrams for this car with a generator?

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On the other hand....
On advantage to converting to a GM-style alternator is availability of spar=
e parts whilst travelling.=C2=A0 If you drive your car on trips (to VTR for=
 example) and you experience a failure in the charging system you can get a=
 replacement just about anywhere.
But if you have a trailer queen stick with the dynamo.

Dave=20

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    On Thursday, July 6, 2023 at 04:56:32 PM CDT, Anthony Rhodes <spamiam@c=
omcast.net> wrote: =20
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 If you only have the original electrical devices with their normal power d=
emands, then the stock generator is capable of handling everything.

Note: the original headlights may have been about 40 W each compared to nea=
rly 50% more than that for modern lights.

I have a stock generator, a good voltage, regulator, and a few LED lights. =
The headlights are NOT LED. They are H4 halogen. The generator keeps up wit=
h everything just fine.

I used the LED tail lights. I did not change any of the other running light=
s.

However, if I were to add some driving lights, then I probably do not have =
enough power output from the stock generator.

 on the other hand, switching to LED headlights and LED driving lights prob=
ably would reduce my overall power demand from where it is right now.

I have not switched my headlights to LED because I am not convinced that th=
e H4 LED replacements are as good as the halogens for the beam pattern .=20

-Tony

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> Recently picked up a 59 TR3 which has an alternator conversion.=C2=A0 Sin=
ce the engine was separate, I have no idea how well the generator works or =
if at all.=C2=A0 It is still in the engine compartment, wires connected (un=
like the engine).=C2=A0 how can I test it?
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> Given the current availability of LED lights, and since I have no interes=
t in installing a radio, should I try to keep the current setup (little jok=
e there) or go back to a generator?
>=20

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                <div><div dir=3D"ltr">If you only have the original electri=
cal devices with their normal power demands, then the stock generator is ca=
pable of handling everything.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Note: the original headlights may have been about 40 W each compar=
ed to nearly 50% more than that for modern lights.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I have a stock generator, a good voltage, regu=
lator, and a few LED lights. The headlights are NOT LED. They are H4 haloge=
n. The generator keeps up with everything just fine.<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I used the LED tail lights. I did not change=
 any of the other running lights.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">I think that my total power demand is slightly less than origin=
al.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I see no good reas=
on to switch to an alternator!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">However, if I were to add some driving lights, then I probably do =
not have enough power output from the stock generator.<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> on the other hand, switching to LED headl=
ights and LED driving lights probably would reduce my overall power demand =
from where it is right now.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">I have not switched my headlights to LED because I am not convinced t=
hat the H4 LED replacements are as good as the halogens for the beam patter=
n . <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">-Tony<br></div><d=
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