Subject: [TR] generator vs alternator

From: dave northrup <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2023 13:25:10 +0000

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Recently picked up a 59 TR3 which has an alternator conversion.  Since the =
engine was separate, I have no idea how well the generator works or if at a=
ll.  It is still in the engine compartment, wires connected (unlike the eng=
ine).  how can I test it?

Given the current availability of LED lights, and since I have no interest =
in installing a radio, should I try to keep the current setup (little joke =
there) or go back to a generator?

Are there wiring diagrams for this car with a generator?

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Recently picked up a 59 TR3 which has an alternator =
conversion.&nbsp; Since the engine was separate, I have no idea how well th=
e generator works or if at all.&nbsp; It is still in the engine compartment=
, wires connected (unlike the engine).&nbsp; how
 can I test it?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Given the current availability of LED lights, and si=
nce I have no interest in installing a radio, should I try to keep the curr=
ent setup (little joke there) or go back to a generator?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Are there wiring diagrams for this car with a genera=
tor?&nbsp; <o:p>
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From: Anthony Rhodes <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2023 14:18:45 -0400

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">All true. &nbsp; But the dynamo itself is a=
 very reliable device overall. &nbsp; On the third hand, they are about 60 y=
ears old, and quite possibly never serviced. &nbsp;&nbsp;<div><br></div><div=
>The new mechanical regulators are not particularly reliable. &nbsp;</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>So, if you are concerned about your generator, and afraid i=
t will let you down, then get it refurbished by a reputable shop and you are=
 probably good to go for another 60 years, mechanical regulators not withsta=
nding</div><div><br></div><div>-Tony</div><div><br><div dir=3D"ltr"><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><br>On Jul 7, 2023, at 7:52 AM, DAVID MASSEY &lt;dave1mass=
[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div class=3D"ydp2e400a28yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"f=
ont-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir=3D"lt=
r" data-setdir=3D"false">On the other hand....</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-se=
tdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">On advantage=
 to converting to a GM-style alternator is availability of spare parts whils=
t travelling.&nbsp; If you drive your car on trips (to VTR for example) and y=
ou experience a failure in the charging system you can get a replacement jus=
t about anywhere.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">But if you have a trailer queen stick wit=
h the dynamo.<br></div><div><br></div><div class=3D"ydp2e400a28signature"><d=
iv style=3D"color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stre=
tch: normal; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial, Helve=
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ust: none;"><div><font size=3D"4">Dave <br></font></div><div><span style=3D"=
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                    On Thursday, July 6, 2023 at 04:56:32 PM CDT, Anthony Rh=
odes &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div dir=3D"ltr">If you only have the original electric=
al devices with their normal power demands, then the stock generator is capa=
ble of handling everything.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Note: the original headlights may have been about 40 W each compared to=
 nearly 50% more than that for modern lights.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">I have a stock generator, a good voltage, regulator, a=
nd a few LED lights. The headlights are NOT LED. They are H4 halogen. The ge=
nerator keeps up with everything just fine.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">I used the LED tail lights. I did not change any of the=
 other running lights.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
I think that my total power demand is slightly less than original.<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I see no good reason to switch t=
o an alternator!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Howeve=
r, if I were to add some driving lights, then I probably do not have enough p=
ower output from the stock generator.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"> on the other hand, switching to LED headlights and LED drivi=
ng lights probably would reduce my overall power demand from where it is rig=
ht now.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I have not swit=
ched my headlights to LED because I am not convinced that the H4 LED replace=
ments are as good as the halogens for the beam pattern . <br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">-Tony<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my 1837 Babbage Analytical Engine<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; On Jul 6, 2023, at 3:12 PM, <a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_bla=
nk">[email-masked]</a> wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt=
; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Message: 1<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; D=
ate: Thu, 6 Jul 2023 13:25:10 +0000<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; From: dav=
e northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D=
"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; : triumph l=
ist list &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt=
; Subject: [TR] generator vs alternator<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Messa=
ge-ID: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" r=
el=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
om</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D=
"us-ascii"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Re=
cently picked up a 59 TR3 which has an alternator conversion.&nbsp; Since th=
e engine was separate, I have no idea how well the generator works or if at a=
ll.&nbsp; It is still in the engine compartment, wires connected (unlike the=
 engine).&nbsp; how can I test it?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Given the current availability of LED lights, and sinc=
e I have no interest in installing a radio, should I try to keep the current=
 setup (little joke there) or go back to a generator?<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Are there wiring diagrams for this c=
ar with a generator?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">**=
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