Subject: Re: [TR] Future Triumph?

From: Ted <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 12:15:28 -0400

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Great to see & thanks for sharing the concept's evolution from Makkina with
BMW.

Will be interesting to see if BMW hits to the e-go button.

On Sat, Jul 22, 2023, 11:13 AM Mark Bradakis <[email-masked]> wrote:

> First off, had a power outage yesterday that had the servers off the air
> for a few hours.  All is back again, bits should be flowing.
>
> And what do you make of this concept car?  If you drink enough gin and
> tonics and squint just right, you might see the TR2/3 influence.  But
> those wheels!
>
>
> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/electriccars/article-12298467/Triumph-TR25-electric-concept-unveiled-iconic-British-brand-returning.html?ico=mol_desktop_moneycars
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div>Great to see &amp; thanks for sharing the concept&#3=
9;s evolution from Makkina with BMW.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div =
dir=3D"auto">Will be interesting to see if BMW hits to the e-go button.<br>=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote" dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail=
_attr">On Sat, Jul 22, 2023, 11:13 AM Mark Bradakis &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:m=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pa=
dding-left:1ex">First off, had a power outage yesterday that had the server=
s off the air <br>
for a few hours.=C2=A0 All is back again, bits should be flowing.<br>
<br>
And what do you make of this concept car?=C2=A0 If you drink enough gin and=
 <br>
tonics and squint just right, you might see the TR2/3 influence.=C2=A0 But =
<br>
those wheels!<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/electriccars/article-12298467/=
Triumph-TR25-electric-concept-unveiled-iconic-British-brand-returning.html?=
ico=3Dmol_desktop_moneycars" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank=
">https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/electriccars/article-12298467/Triumph-T=
R25-electric-concept-unveiled-iconic-British-brand-returning.html?ico=3Dmol=
_desktop_moneycars</a><br>
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From: Greg Lemon <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 11:16:22 -0500

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I had already seen this, yeah, had to squint a bit to see the resemblance,
around the headlights a bit.  Not really working for me, but good that they
are at least thinking about it.

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Sat, Jul 22, 2023, 10:03 AM Mark Bradakis <[email-masked]> wrote:

> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/[email-masked]
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<div dir=3D"auto">I had already seen this, yeah, had to squint a bit to see=
 the resemblance, around the headlights a bit.=C2=A0 Not really working for=
 me, but good that they are at least thinking about it.<div dir=3D"auto"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"auto">Greg Lemon</div><div dir=3D"auto">TR250</div></di=
v><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On S=
at, Jul 22, 2023, 10:03 AM Mark Bradakis &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@bradaki=
s.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
1ex">First off, had a power outage yesterday that had the servers off the a=
ir <br>
for a few hours.=C2=A0 All is back again, bits should be flowing.<br>
<br>
And what do you make of this concept car?=C2=A0 If you drink enough gin and=
 <br>
tonics and squint just right, you might see the TR2/3 influence.=C2=A0 But =
<br>
those wheels!<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/electriccars/article-12298467/=
Triumph-TR25-electric-concept-unveiled-iconic-British-brand-returning.html?=
ico=3Dmol_desktop_moneycars" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank=
">https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/electriccars/article-12298467/Triumph-T=
R25-electric-concept-unveiled-iconic-British-brand-returning.html?ico=3Dmol=
_desktop_moneycars</a><br>
<br>
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From: David Friedlander <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 20:52:56 -0400

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Some might find this recent EV article interesting:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2023/07/14/ev-sales-dropping-cox-=
automotive-says/70411020007/

Dave

On Sat, Jul 22, 2023 at 8:31 PM dave northrup <[email-masked]> wrote:

> this report is from the electric vehicle association, hardly an unbiased
> organization
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Michael Marr <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 22, 2023 4:01 PM
>
> *To:* dave northrup
> *Cc:* Listers
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Future Triumph?
>
> Really?  What=E2=80=99s your source for that little nugget?
>
> Here=E2=80=99s another viewpoint=E2=80=A6
>
>
> Demand for electric cars is booming, with sales expected to leap 35% this
> year after a record-breaking 2022 - News - IEA
> <https://www.iea.org/news/demand-for-electric-cars-is-booming-with-sales-=
expected-to-leap-35-this-year-after-a-record-breaking-2022>
> iea.org
> <https://www.iea.org/news/demand-for-electric-cars-is-booming-with-sales-=
expected-to-leap-35-this-year-after-a-record-breaking-2022>
>
> <https://www.iea.org/news/demand-for-electric-cars-is-booming-with-sales-=
expected-to-leap-35-this-year-after-a-record-breaking-2022>
>
>
> Michael Marr
>
> Mobile:  630-202-0065
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 22, 2023, at 14:52, dave northrup <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
>
> Despite what the Biden administration wants, electric cars are a no go.
>
>
>
> EVs are piling up on dealer lots as consumers are correctly rejecting the=
m
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs <[email-masked]> *On Behalf Of *Ted
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 22, 2023 11:15 AM
> *To:* Mark Bradakis <[email-masked]>
> *Cc:* Listers <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Future Triumph?
>
>
>
> Great to see & thanks for sharing the concept's evolution from Makkina
> with BMW.
>
>
>
> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/electriccars/article-12298467/Triumph-T=
_desktop_moneycars
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/[email-masked]
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/[email-masked]
>

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<div dir=3D"auto">Some might find this recent EV article interesting:</div>=
<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><div><a href=3D"https://www.u=
satoday.com/story/money/cars/2023/07/14/ev-sales-dropping-cox-automotive-sa=
ys/70411020007/">https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2023/07/14/ev-sa=
les-dropping-cox-automotive-says/70411020007/</a></div><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">Dave</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cl=
ass=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 22, 2023 at 8:31 PM dave northrup &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div id=3D"m_2667092760994797863divtagdefaultwrapper" style=3D"font-size:12=
pt;color:#000000;font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif" dir=3D"ltr">
<p>this report is from the electric vehicle association, hardly an unbiased=
 organization</p>
<br>
<br>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%">
<div id=3D"m_2667092760994797863divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Ca=
libri, sans-serif" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> =
Michael Marr &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bl=
ank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 22, 2023 4:01 PM</font></div></div></div></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div id=3D"m_2667092760994797863divtagdefaultwrapper" styl=
e=3D"font-size:12pt;color:#000000;font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif"=
 dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)"><div id=3D"m_26670927609947978=
63divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" color=3D"#0=
00000" style=3D"font-size:11pt"><br>
<b>To:</b> dave northrup<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Listers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Future Triumph?</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div>Really?=C2=A0 What=E2=80=99s your source for that little nugget?
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Here=E2=80=99s another viewpoint=E2=80=A6</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div style=3D"display:block">
<div style=3D"display:inline-block"><a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"https://www=
.iea.org/news/demand-for-electric-cars-is-booming-with-sales-expected-to-le=
ap-35-this-year-after-a-record-breaking-2022" dir=3D"ltr" width=3D"228" sty=
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hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;text-align:left">
<a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"https://www.iea.org/news/demand-for-electric-ca=
rs-is-booming-with-sales-expected-to-leap-35-this-year-after-a-record-break=
ing-2022" style=3D"text-decoration:none" target=3D"_blank"><font color=3D"#=
000000">Demand for electric cars is booming, with
 sales expected to leap 35% this year after a record-breaking 2022 - News -=
 IEA</font></a></div>
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hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;text-align:left">
<a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"https://www.iea.org/news/demand-for-electric-ca=
rs-is-booming-with-sales-expected-to-leap-35-this-year-after-a-record-break=
ing-2022" style=3D"text-decoration:none" target=3D"_blank"><font color=3D"#=
A2A2A9">iea.org</font></a></div>
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<br>
<br>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Michael Marr<br>
<div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Mobile: =C2=A0630-202-0065</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Sent from my iPad</div>
</div>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jul 22, 2023, at 14:52, dave northrup &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Despite what the Biden administration wants, electri=
c cars are a no go.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">EVs are piling up on dealer lots as consumers are co=
rrectly rejecting them</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Great to see &amp; thanks for sharing the concept&#3=
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And what do you make of this concept car?=C2=A0 If you drink enough gin and=
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<br>
those wheels!<br>
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not unfounded...even Congress has taken notice.  Grilling the motor 
industry that new car prices only went up 6% and electric vehicle prices 
jumped 22% 2022-2023. they ARE selling, like it or not.

ptegler

On 7/22/2023 5:34 PM, dave northrup wrote:
>
> this report is from the electric vehicle association, hardly an 
> unbiased organization
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Really?  What’s your source for that little nugget?
>
> Here’s another viewpoint…
>
> GEVO2023reportcover_Anelectriccarchargingundersolarpannels.jpg
> Demand for electric cars is booming, with sales expected to leap 35% 
> this year after a record-breaking 2022 - News - IEA 
> <https://www.iea.org/news/demand-for-electric-cars-is-booming-with-sales-expected-to-leap-35-this-year-after-a-record-breaking-2022>
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>
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> Michael Marr
>
> Mobile:  630-202-0065
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> EVs are piling up on dealer lots as consumers are correctly rejecting 
>> them
>>
>> Great to see & thanks for sharing the concept's evolution from 
>> Makkina with BMW.
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    <p>not unfounded...even Congress has taken notice.  Grilling the
      motor industry that new car prices only went up 6% and electric
      vehicle prices jumped 22% 2022-2023. they ARE selling, like it or
      not.</p>
    <p>ptegler</p>
    <p><br>
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    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/22/2023 5:34 PM, dave northrup
      wrote:<br>
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        <p>this report is from the electric vehicle association, hardly
          an unbiased organization</p>
        <br>
        <br>
        <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
          <hr tabindex="-1" style="display:inline-block; width:98%">
          <div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt"
              face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b>
              Michael Marr <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 22, 2023 4:01 PM<br>
              <b>To:</b> dave northrup<br>
              <b>Cc:</b> Listers<br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Future Triumph?</font>
            <div> </div>
          </div>
          <div>Really?  What’s your source for that little nugget?
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Here’s another viewpoint…</div>
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                                            style="" color="#000000">Demand
                                            for electric cars is
                                            booming, with sales expected
                                            to leap 35% this year after
                                            a record-breaking 2022 -
                                            News - IEA</font></a></div>
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              <div dir="ltr">Michael Marr<br>
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                <blockquote type="cite">On Jul 22, 2023, at 14:52, dave
                  northrup <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> wrote:<br>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Despite what the Biden
                      administration wants, electric cars are a no go.</p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">EVs are piling up on dealer
                      lots as consumers are correctly rejecting them</p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs
                        <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> <b>On
                          Behalf Of
                        </b>Ted<br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 22, 2023 11:15 AM<br>
                        <b>To:</b> Mark Bradakis
                        <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
                        <b>Cc:</b> Listers
                        <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
                        <b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Future Triumph?</p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">Great to see &amp; thanks
                          for sharing the concept's evolution from
                          Makkina with BMW.</p>
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                      <div>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Will be
                          interesting to see if BMW hits to the e-go
                          button.</p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Jul 22, 2023,
                              11:13 AM Mark Bradakis &lt;<a
                                href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
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                            <p class="MsoNormal">First off, had a power
                              outage yesterday that had the servers off
                              the air
                              <br>
                              for a few hours.  All is back again, bits
                              should be flowing.<br>
                              <br>
                              And what do you make of this concept car? 
                              If you drink enough gin and <br>
                              tonics and squint just right, you might
                              see the TR2/3 influence.  But <br>
                              those wheels!<br>
                              <br>
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I don=E2=80=99t think the International Ene=
rgy Agency, which exists to promote alternative fuel use, is an unbiased sou=
rce.&nbsp;<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jul 22, 2023, at 7:41 PM, dave northrup &l=
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<p>EV sales have peaked</p>
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</p>
<p><a href=3D"https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2023/05/0=
8/ev-sales-2023-slowing/70188358007/" class=3D"OWAAutoLink" id=3D"LPlnk26363=
2">https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2023/05/08/ev-sales-=
2023-slowing/70188358007/</a><br>
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le=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Michael Marr &lt;mmarr@=
albiontechnical.com&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 22, 2023 4:01:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> dave northrup<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Listers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Future Triumph?</font>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div>Really? &nbsp;What=E2=80=99s your source for that little nugget?
<div><br>
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.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Ted<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 22, 2023 11:15 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mark Bradakis &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Listers &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Future Triumph?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Great to see &amp; thanks for sharing the concept's e=
volution from Makkina with BMW.<o:p></o:p></p>
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ervers off the air
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for a few hours.&nbsp; All is back again, bits should be flowing.<br>
<br>
And what do you make of this concept car?&nbsp; If you drink enough gin and <=
br>
tonics and squint just right, you might see the TR2/3 influence.&nbsp; But <=
br>
those wheels!<br>
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All this EV bashing reminds me of the picture of the Model T being pulled o=
ut of the mud but a farmer and a team of horses and the farmer thinking all=
 along "These things will never catch on."
Anyone who expects a new technology to catch on with a straight line growth=
 curve is not being realistic.=C2=A0 There are many supply chain and infras=
tructure issues that need to be worked out and this is a chicken/egg relati=
onship between these issues and EV acceptance.=C2=A0 Heck, in the early day=
s of gas-powered cars drivers had to stop at the local dry-goods store and =
buy "cleaning solvent" to power their cars.
EV's have many fewer moving parts and hence are more reliable and, except f=
or the battery, are less expensive to build.=C2=A0 And battery technology i=
s evolving as we speak.
But back to the topic at hand.=C2=A0 This new "Triumph" resembles the TR3 i=
n the same manner that a Picasso painting resembles reality. Yeah, some of =
the elements are there but they are not coherent.=C2=A0 The styling does no=
t inspire me, but that is just my opinion, for what it's worth.

Dave=20

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    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 10:07:28 PM CDT, Michael Marr <mmarr@albi=
ontechnical.com> wrote: =20
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g up on dealer lots.=E2=80=9D

Michael Marr

Mobile: =C2=A0630-202-0065
Sent from my iPad

On Jul 22, 2023, at 18:48, dave northrup <[email-masked]> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF
EV sales have peaked

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2023/05/08/ev-sales-20=
23-slowing/70188358007/

From: Michael Marr <[email-masked]>
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2023 4:01:34 PM
To: dave northrup
Cc: Listers
Subject: Re: [TR] Future Triumph?=C2=A0Really? =C2=A0What=E2=80=99s your so=
urce for that little nugget?
Here=E2=80=99s another viewpoint=E2=80=A6

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Despite what the Biden administration wants, electric cars are a no go.
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To: Mark Bradakis <[email-masked]>
Cc: Listers <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] Future Triumph?
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Great to see & thanks for sharing the concept's evolution from Makkina with=
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Will be interesting to see if BMW hits to the e-go button.
=20
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First off, had a power outage yesterday that had the servers off the air
for a few hours.=C2=A0 All is back again, bits should be flowing.

And what do you make of this concept car?=C2=A0 If you drink enough gin and=
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tonics and squint just right, you might see the TR2/3 influence.=C2=A0 But=
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those wheels!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/electriccars/article-12298467/Triumph-TR2=
5-electric-concept-unveiled-iconic-British-brand-returning.html?ico=3Dmol_d=
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mjb.

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=3D"font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">All this EV bashing reminds me of the pictur=
e of the Model T being pulled out of the mud but a farmer and a team of hor=
ses and the farmer thinking all along "These things will never catch on."</=
div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-=
setdir=3D"false">Anyone who expects a new technology to catch on with a str=
aight line growth curve is not being realistic.&nbsp; There are many supply=
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hicken/egg relationship between these issues and EV acceptance.&nbsp; Heck,=
 in the early days of gas-powered cars drivers had to stop at the local dry=
-goods store and buy "cleaning solvent" to power their cars.</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fa=
lse">EV's have many fewer moving parts and hence are more reliable and, exc=
ept for the battery, are less expensive to build.&nbsp; And battery technol=
ogy is evolving as we speak.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">But back to the topic at han=
d.&nbsp; This new "Triumph" resembles the TR3 in the same manner that a Pic=
asso painting resembles reality. Yeah, some of the elements are there but t=
hey are not coherent.&nbsp; The styling does not inspire me, but that is ju=
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g-2022" style=3D"text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration-style: solid; =
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ont color=3D"#A2A2A9">iea.org</font></a></div>
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@ranteer.com&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
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ydp522f7509yiv6716051637WordSection1">
<p class=3D"ydp522f7509yiv6716051637MsoNormal">Despite what the Biden admin=
istration wants, electric cars are a no go.</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydp522f7509yiv6716051637MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydp522f7509yiv6716051637MsoNormal">EVs are piling up on dealer =
lots as consumers are correctly rejecting them</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydp522f7509yiv6716051637MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydp522f7509yiv6716051637MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs &lt;tr=
[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Ted<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 22, 2023 11:15 AM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> Mark Bradakis &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Cc:</b> Listers &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Future Triumph?</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydp522f7509yiv6716051637MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydp522f7509yiv6716051637MsoNormal">Great to see &amp; thanks fo=
r sharing the concept's evolution from Makkina with BMW.</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydp522f7509yiv6716051637MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
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<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"ydp522f7509yiv6716051637MsoNorm=
al">Will be interesting to see if BMW hits to the e-go button.</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydp522f7509yiv6716051637MsoNormal">On Sat, Jul 22, 2023, 11:13 =
AM Mark Bradakis &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" re=
l=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</p>=20
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ght: 0in;">
<p class=3D"ydp522f7509yiv6716051637MsoNormal">First off, had a power outag=
e yesterday that had the servers off the air
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tonics and squint just right, you might see the TR2/3 influence.&nbsp; But =
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I=E2=80=99m thinking, as others have said, that EV=E2=80=99s are still in t=
he relative
infancy. The =E2=80=98boom days=E2=80=99 for EV=E2=80=99s will come, IMHO, =
when a significant
breakthrough in battery technology occurs. That is, when battery science
allows for rapid recharge, long life and when cheap(er) battery-pack
replacements are possible. The company that develops THAT breakthrough
battery tech, will revolutionize not only EV=E2=80=99s but many other
battery-dependent devices=E2=80=A6.

Dave

On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 5:18 PM Michael Marr <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> I=E2=80=99m surprised we have not seen a law requiring EVs to be preceded=
 on their
> journey by a man with a red flag=E2=80=A6
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 23, 2023, at 07:45, DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> All this EV bashing reminds me of the picture of the Model T being pulled
> out of the mud but a farmer and a team of horses and the farmer thinking
> all along "These things will never catch on."
>
> Anyone who expects a new technology to catch on with a straight line
> growth curve is not being realistic.  There are many supply chain and
> infrastructure issues that need to be worked out and this is a chicken/eg=
g
> relationship between these issues and EV acceptance.  Heck, in the early
> days of gas-powered cars drivers had to stop at the local dry-goods store
> and buy "cleaning solvent" to power their cars.
>
> EV's have many fewer moving parts and hence are more reliable and, except
> for the battery, are less expensive to build.  And battery technology is
> evolving as we speak.
>
> But back to the topic at hand.  This new "Triumph" resembles the TR3 in
> the same manner that a Picasso painting resembles reality. Yeah, some of
> the elements are there but they are not coherent.  The styling does not
> inspire me, but that is just my opinion, for what it's worth.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 10:07:28 PM CDT, Michael Marr <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
> Hmmm.  Not exactly =E2=80=9Cno go=E2=80=9D, or =E2=80=9CEVs are piling up=
 on dealer lots.=E2=80=9D
> https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2023/05/08/ev-sales-=
2023-slowing/70188358007/
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 22, 2023 4:01:34 PM
> *To:* dave northrup
> *Cc:* Listers
m
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/[email-masked]
>

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<div dir=3D"auto">I=E2=80=99m thinking, as others have said, that EV=E2=80=
=99s are still in the relative infancy. The =E2=80=98boom days=E2=80=99 for=
 EV=E2=80=99s will come, IMHO, when a significant breakthrough in battery t=
echnology occurs. That is, when battery science allows for rapid recharge, =
long life and when cheap(er) battery-pack replacements are possible. The co=
mpany that develops THAT breakthrough battery tech, will revolutionize not =
only EV=E2=80=99s but many other battery-dependent devices=E2=80=A6.</div><=
div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Dave</div><div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 23, 2023=
 at 5:18 PM Michael Marr &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">m=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left=
-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">

<div dir=3D"auto">
I=E2=80=99m surprised we have not seen a law requiring EVs to be preceded o=
n their journey by a man with a red flag=E2=80=A6
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Mike<br>
<br>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jul 23, 2023, at 07:45, DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
<div style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px">
<div style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">All this =
EV bashing reminds me of the picture of the Model T being pulled out of the=
 mud but a farmer and a team of horses and the farmer thinking all along &q=
uot;These things will never catch on.&quot;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Anyone wh=
o expects a new technology to catch on with a straight line growth curve is=
 not being realistic.=C2=A0 There are many supply chain and infrastructure =
issues that need to be worked out and this is a chicken/egg relationship
 between these issues and EV acceptance.=C2=A0 Heck, in the early days of g=
as-powered cars drivers had to stop at the local dry-goods store and buy &q=
uot;cleaning solvent&quot; to power their cars.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">EV&#39;s =
have many fewer moving parts and hence are more reliable and, except for th=
e battery, are less expensive to build.=C2=A0 And battery technology is evo=
lving as we speak.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">But back =
to the topic at hand.=C2=A0 This new &quot;Triumph&quot; resembles the TR3 =
in the same manner that a Picasso painting resembles reality. Yeah, some of=
 the elements are there but they are not coherent.=C2=A0 The styling does n=
ot inspire
 me, but that is just my opinion, for what it&#39;s worth.<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<div style=3D"font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font=
-size:12pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-s=
ize-adjust:none;color:black">
<div style=3D"font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font=
-size:12pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-s=
ize-adjust:none;color:black">
<div style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><font size=3D"4" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Dave <br>
</font></div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black"><br>
</span></div>
<br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
</div>
</div>
<div id=3D"m_-4098356278704906929ydp522f7509yahoo_quoted_0652061481">
<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-s=
erif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-s=
erif">On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 10:07:28 PM CDT, Michael Marr &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-fam=
ily:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">mmarr@albiontech=
nical.com</a>&gt; wrote:
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-s=
erif"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-s=
erif"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-s=
erif">
<div id=3D"m_-4098356278704906929ydp522f7509yiv6716051637" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">
<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-s=
erif">Hmmm.=C2=A0 Not exactly =E2=80=9Cno go=E2=80=9D, or =E2=80=9CEVs are =
piling up on dealer lots.=E2=80=9D<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,=
Arial,sans-serif">Michael Marr<br clear=3D"none">
<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-s=
erif">
<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-s=
erif"><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-s=
erif">Mobile: =C2=A0630-202-0065</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-s=
erif"><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-s=
erif">Sent from my iPad</div>
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Arial,sans-serif"><br clear=3D"none">
<blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,H=
elvetica,Arial,sans-serif">On Jul 22, 2023, at 18:48, dave northrup &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:&qu=
ot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">[email-masked]</a>&gt=
; wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
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</blockquote>
</div>
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elvetica,Arial,sans-serif">
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,=
Arial,sans-serif">=EF=BB=BF
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defaultwrapper" style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-=
serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<p style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif">EV sales have peaked<=
/p>
<p style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br clear=3D"none">
</p>
<p style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif"><a shape=3D"rect" id=
=3D"m_-4098356278704906929ydp522f7509yiv6716051637LPlnk263632" href=3D"http=
s://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2023/05/08/ev-sales-2023-s=
lowing/70188358007/" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-famil=
y:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif">https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/person=
alfinance/2023/05/08/ev-sales-2023-slowing/70188358007/</a><br clear=3D"non=
e">
</p>
<p style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br clear=3D"none">
</p>
<p style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br clear=3D"none">
</p>
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e&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">
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yFwdMsg" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sa=
ns-serif"><font style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)" face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif"><b style=3D"font-family:Calibri,=
sans-serif">From:</b> Michael Marr &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mmarr@albiontechni=
cal.com" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">mmarr@a=
lbiontechnical.com</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
<b style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Sent:</b> Saturday, July 22, 20=
23 4:01:34 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">To:</b> dave northrup<br clear=
=3D"none">
<b style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Cc:</b> Listers<br clear=3D"non=
e">
<b style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Future Tr=
iumph?</font>
<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-s=
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if">Despite what the Biden administration wants, electric cars are a no go.=
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m.net" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,He=
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<p style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-ser=
if">Great to see &amp; thanks for sharing the concept&#39;s evolution from =
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=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"f=
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if">First off, had a power outage yesterday that had the servers off the ai=
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And what do you make of this concept car?=C2=A0 If you drink enough gin and=
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Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2023 21:48:30 +0000 (UTC)

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 we have been good at keeping politics out of this forum.but ill say its no=
t the bidden admin that wants us to clean up our act. its the planet.we can=
t keep polluting this one and only planet we have.we have to start doing so=
mething and that probably means doing things in lots of different places.el=
ectric cars are not 100% yet for distance driving. but its going to get bet=
ter or we will switch gears to some ting different. hydrogen maybe.as for a=
vailability, we took a tour of the auto suppliers recently. wanting to go h=
ybrid before full electric.non on the lots, all on order were accounted for=
. best availability was about 6 months out.
i like the look of that concept.
Frank
    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 12:56:55 PM PDT, dave northrup <dave@rant=
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Despite what the Biden administration wants, electric cars are a no go.
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EVs are piling up on dealer lots as consumers are correctly rejecting them
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From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf OfTed
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2023 11:15 AM
To: Mark Bradakis <[email-masked]>
Cc: Listers <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] Future Triumph?
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Great to see & thanks for sharing the concept's evolution from Makkina with=
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Will be interesting to see if BMW hits to the e-go button.
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">we have been good at keeping=
 politics out of this forum.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">bu=
t ill say its not the bidden admin that wants us to clean up our act. its t=
he planet.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">we cant keep polluti=
ng this one and only planet we have.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"f=
alse">we have to start doing something and that probably means doing things=
 in lots of different places.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">e=
lectric cars are not 100% yet for distance driving. but its going to get be=
tter or we will switch gears to some ting different. hydrogen maybe.</div><=
div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">as for availability, we took a tour o=
f the auto suppliers recently. wanting to go hybrid before full electric.</=
div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">non on the lots, all on order we=
re accounted for. best availability was about 6 months out.</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fa=
lse">i like the look of that concept.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"=
false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Frank</div><div><br=
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                    On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 12:56:55 PM PDT, dave nor=
thrup &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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<p class=3D"ydp336d017ayiv2811724067MsoNormal">Despite what the Biden admin=
istration wants, electric cars are a no go.</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydp336d017ayiv2811724067MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydp336d017ayiv2811724067MsoNormal">EVs are piling up on dealer =
lots as consumers are correctly rejecting them</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydp336d017ayiv2811724067MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
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067yqt5433021870"><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;=
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<p class=3D"ydp336d017ayiv2811724067MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs &lt;tr=
[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Ted<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 22, 2023 11:15 AM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> Mark Bradakis &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Cc:</b> Listers &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Future Triumph?</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydp336d017ayiv2811724067MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydp336d017ayiv2811724067MsoNormal">Great to see &amp; thanks fo=
r sharing the concept's evolution from Makkina with BMW.</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydp336d017ayiv2811724067MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
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<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"ydp336d017ayiv2811724067MsoNorm=
al">Will be interesting to see if BMW hits to the e-go button.</p>=20
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AM Mark Bradakis &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" re=
l=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</p>=20
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tonics and squint just right, you might see the TR2/3 influence.&nbsp; But =
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keep your eyes open for salt batteries.
But tech dev looks like govt might finally lossen restirctions on the 
the media needed to massively drop the price and faciliate safe hydrogen 
power, which will far outpace future EV developement

ptegler

On 7/23/2023 5:25 PM, David Friedlander wrote:
> I’m thinking, as others have said, that EV’s are still in the relative 
> infancy. The ‘boom days’ for EV’s will come, IMHO, when a significant 
> breakthrough in battery technology occurs. That is, when battery 
> science allows for rapid recharge, long life and when cheap(er) 
> battery-pack replacements are possible. The company that develops THAT 
> breakthrough battery tech, will revolutionize not only EV’s but many 
> other battery-dependent devices….
>
> Dave
>
> On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 5:18 PM Michael Marr 
> <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>     I’m surprised we have not seen a law requiring EVs to be preceded
>     on their journey by a man with a red flag…
>
>     Mike
>
>     Sent from my iPhone
>
>>     All this EV bashing reminds me of the picture of the Model T
>>     being pulled out of the mud but a farmer and a team of horses and
>>     the farmer thinking all along "These things will never catch on."
>>
>>     Anyone who expects a new technology to catch on with a straight
>>     line growth curve is not being realistic.  There are many supply
>>     chain and infrastructure issues that need to be worked out and
>>     this is a chicken/egg relationship between these issues and EV
>>     acceptance.  Heck, in the early days of gas-powered cars drivers
>>     had to stop at the local dry-goods store and buy "cleaning
>>     solvent" to power their cars.
>>
>>     EV's have many fewer moving parts and hence are more reliable
>>     and, except for the battery, are less expensive to build.  And
>>     battery technology is evolving as we speak.
>>
>>     But back to the topic at hand.  This new "Triumph" resembles the
>>     TR3 in the same manner that a Picasso painting resembles reality.
>>     Yeah, some of the elements are there but they are not coherent. 
>>     The styling does not inspire me, but that is just my opinion, for
>>     what it's worth.
>>
>>     Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 10:07:28 PM CDT, Michael Marr
>>     <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>     Hmmm. Not exactly “no go”, or “EVs are piling up on dealer lots.”
>>
>>     Michael Marr
>>
>>     Mobile:  630-202-0065
>>
>>     Sent from my iPad
>>
>>>     https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2023/05/08/ev-sales-2023-slowing/70188358007/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     Demand for electric cars is booming, with sales expected to leap
>>>     35% this year after a record-breaking 2022 - News - IEA

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    <p>keep your eyes open for salt batteries.<br>
      But tech dev looks like govt might finally lossen restirctions on
      the the media needed to massively drop the price and faciliate
      safe hydrogen power, which will far outpace future EV developement</p>
    <p>ptegler<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/23/2023 5:25 PM, David Friedlander
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAJ1eQwgbr8-WnfMh4RrfEuyLYfH+YmhJ413tH=[email-masked]">
      <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
      <div dir="auto">I’m thinking, as others have said, that EV’s are
        still in the relative infancy. The ‘boom days’ for EV’s will
        come, IMHO, when a significant breakthrough in battery
        technology occurs. That is, when battery science allows for
        rapid recharge, long life and when cheap(er) battery-pack
        replacements are possible. The company that develops THAT
        breakthrough battery tech, will revolutionize not only EV’s but
        many other battery-dependent devices….</div>
      <div dir="auto"><br>
      </div>
      <div dir="auto">Dave</div>
      <div><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">
          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 5:18
            PM Michael Marr &lt;<a
              href="mailto:[email-masked]"
              moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
            wrote:<br>
          </div>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">
            <div dir="auto">
              I’m surprised we have not seen a law requiring EVs to be
              preceded on their journey by a man with a red flag…
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Mike<br>
                <br>
                <div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
                <div dir="ltr"><br>
                  <blockquote type="cite">On Jul 23, 2023, at 07:45,
                    DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                    wrote:<br>
                    <br>
                  </blockquote>
                </div>
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <div dir="ltr">
                    <div
                      style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px">
                      <div
                        style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
                        <div dir="ltr"
                          style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">All
                          this EV bashing reminds me of the picture of
                          the Model T being pulled out of the mud but a
                          farmer and a team of horses and the farmer
                          thinking all along "These things will never
                          catch on."</div>
                        <div dir="ltr"
                          style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div dir="ltr"
                          style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Anyone
                          who expects a new technology to catch on with
                          a straight line growth curve is not being
                          realistic.  There are many supply chain and
                          infrastructure issues that need to be worked
                          out and this is a chicken/egg relationship
                          between these issues and EV acceptance.  Heck,
                          in the early days of gas-powered cars drivers
                          had to stop at the local dry-goods store and
                          buy "cleaning solvent" to power their cars.</div>
                        <div dir="ltr"
                          style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div dir="ltr"
                          style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">EV's
                          have many fewer moving parts and hence are
                          more reliable and, except for the battery, are
                          less expensive to build.  And battery
                          technology is evolving as we speak.</div>
                        <div dir="ltr"
                          style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div dir="ltr"
                          style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">But
                          back to the topic at hand.  This new "Triumph"
                          resembles the TR3 in the same manner that a
                          Picasso painting resembles reality. Yeah, some
                          of the elements are there but they are not
                          coherent.  The styling does not inspire me,
                          but that is just my opinion, for what it's
                          worth.<br>
                        </div>
                        <div
                          style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div
                          style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
                          <div
style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size-adjust:none;color:black">
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style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size-adjust:none;color:black">
                              <div
                                style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><font
style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size="4">Dave
                                  <br>
                                </font></div>
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                                style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black"><br>
                                </span></div>
                              <br>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      <div
                        style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
                      </div>
                      <div
                        style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
                      </div>
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                      id="m_-4098356278704906929ydp522f7509yahoo_quoted_0652061481">
                      <div style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica
Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
                        <div style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                          Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">On
                          Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 10:07:28 PM CDT,
                          Michael Marr &lt;<a
                            href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                            target="_blank"
                            style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                            Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                          wrote:
                        </div>
                        <div style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                          Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                          Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                          Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">
                          <div
                            id="m_-4098356278704906929ydp522f7509yiv6716051637"
                            style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                            Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">
                            <div style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                              Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Hmmm. 
                              Not exactly “no go”, or “EVs are piling up
                              on dealer lots.”<br clear="none">
                              <br clear="none">
                              <div dir="ltr"
                                style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                                Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Michael
                                Marr<br clear="none">
                                <div style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                                  Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">
                                  <div
                                    style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                                    Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><br
                                      clear="none">
                                  </div>
                                  <div
                                    style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                                    Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Mobile:
                                     630-202-0065</div>
                                  <div
                                    style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                                    Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><br
                                      clear="none">
                                  </div>
                                  <div
                                    style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                                    Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Sent
                                    from my iPad</div>
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                                style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                                Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><br
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                                  style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                                  Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">On
                                  Jul 22, 2023, at 18:48, dave northrup
                                  &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                                    Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                                  wrote:<br clear="none">
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                                </blockquote>
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                                style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                                Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">
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                                    id="m_-4098356278704906929ydp522f7509yiv6716051637divtagdefaultwrapper"
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                                    <p
                                      style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif">EV
                                      sales have peaked</p>
                                    <p
                                      style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br
                                        clear="none">
                                    </p>
                                    <p
                                      style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif"><a
                                        shape="rect"
                                        id="m_-4098356278704906929ydp522f7509yiv6716051637LPlnk263632"
href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2023/05/08/ev-sales-2023-slowing/70188358007/"
                                        rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
                                        style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2023/05/08/ev-sales-2023-slowing/70188358007/</a><br
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                                        clear="none">
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                                    id="m_-4098356278704906929ydp522f7509yiv6716051637divRplyFwdMsg"
                                    style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                                    Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><font
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"
                                      face="Calibri, sans-serif"><b
                                        style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</b>
                                      Michael Marr &lt;<a
                                        href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br
                                        clear="none">
                                      <b
                                        style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Sent:</b>
                                      Saturday, July 22, 2023 4:01:34 PM<br
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                                      <b
                                        style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">To:</b>
                                      dave northrup<br clear="none">
                                      <b
                                        style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Cc:</b>
                                      Listers<br clear="none">
                                      <b
                                        style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Subject:</b>
                                      Re: [TR] Future Triumph?</font>
                                    <div
                                      style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica
Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"> </div>
                                  </div>
                                  <div
                                    style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                                    Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Really? 
                                    What’s your source for that little
                                    nugget?
                                    <div
                                      style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica
Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><br clear="none">
                                    </div>
                                    <div
                                      style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica
Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Here’s another viewpoint…</div>
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                                      style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica
Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><br clear="none">
                                    </div>
                                    <div
                                      style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica
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