Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 16, Issue 112

From: Mike Coe <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 15:39:17 -0600 (MDT)

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Hi: 

I have yo sell my TR8 that I've owned here in Calgary. Alberta. since 2006. Any idea what TR8 fetch price wise? Its in excellent condition, shape drive and mileage. 

Cheers 
Mike Coe 

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Today's Topics: 

1. Speedo conversion and GPS signal loss (John Macartney) 
2. Re: Speedo conversion and GPS signal loss (Alex & Janet Thomson) 
3. Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park CA 
([email-masked]) 
4. Re: Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park CA 
(Frank Fisher) 
5. Re: Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park CA 
(Jonas Payne) 
6. Re: Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park CA (Matt) 
7. Re: [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket (Robert M Lang) 
8. Re: [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket (Philip Gott) 
9. Fwd: [Fot] JK Jackson 1939 - 2023 (Mark Bradakis) 

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Message: 1 
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 21:49:03 +0100 
From: John Macartney <[email-masked]> 
To: [email-masked] 
Subject: [TR] Speedo conversion and GPS signal loss 

In 2009, I was somewhere in Iowa. Large town, might have been Des Moines but my TomTom gps thing lost all satellite signals - probably because of very high buildings in the immediate vicinity? 
Anyway, when the signal returned, I was given the instruction to take the very next right turn, which I did. The turn itself was through a gap in a wall and then on to a very neat and narrow blacktopped road, surrounded by immaculate lawns and two cars in front of me who were both halted. The cars then went elsewhere, one by one, and the blue Stag and I were brought to a halt by a sign saying STOP HERE alongside a box on post. 
Then the box spoke to me. 
I couldn?t understand what the woman on the other end was saying, and she couldn?t understand me, so everything started off swimmingly. The voice in the box insisted on knowing who I had come to see and simply couldn?t get her head round the fact I knew no one at this location and I was only there because of a GPS malfunction. The whole process was like pulling teeth and the woman continually asking who I had come to see. Perhaps both tempers were getting frayed until I asked her why she kept asking who it was I had come to see? 
Long silence. 
?As you?re here sir, you must know what happens here?? 
?I don?t. Enlighten me?. 
Another long silence. 
When she replied, she seemed utterly amazed I had never heard of the Seven Steps to Heaven drive thru funeral home (or whatever it called itself) ?now who do you want to see?? 
It seemed the only way out required me to pass someone, so I paused very briefly alongside a Mrs Jones - but I?m sure that the concept of drive thru funeral homes were later copied by others such as McDonalds and Starbucks and that?s why I refuse to patronise either, unless I walk into them - providing I?ve found a parking place. 

Jonmac 

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Message: 2 
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 17:39:18 -0400 
From: "Alex & Janet Thomson" <[email-masked]> 
To: "'John Macartney'" <[email-masked]>, 
<[email-masked]> 
Subject: Re: [TR] Speedo conversion and GPS signal loss 

Wow! What a fantastic story! Just another example of what technology has done to us! 

Alex Thomson 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of John Macartney 
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2023 4:49 PM 
To: [email-masked] 
Subject: [TR] Speedo conversion and GPS signal loss 

In 2009, I was somewhere in Iowa. Large town, might have been Des Moines but my TomTom gps thing lost all satellite signals - probably because of very high buildings in the immediate vicinity? 
Anyway, when the signal returned, I was given the instruction to take the very next right turn, which I did. The turn itself was through a gap in a wall and then on to a very neat and narrow blacktopped road, surrounded by immaculate lawns and two cars in front of me who were both halted. The cars then went elsewhere, one by one, and the blue Stag and I were brought to a halt by a sign saying STOP HERE alongside a box on post. 
Then the box spoke to me. 
I couldn?t understand what the woman on the other end was saying, and she couldn?t understand me, so everything started off swimmingly. The voice in the box insisted on knowing who I had come to see and simply couldn?t get her head round the fact I knew no one at this location and I was only there because of a GPS malfunction. The whole process was like pulling teeth and the woman continually asking who I had come to see. Perhaps both tempers were getting frayed until I asked her why she kept asking who it was I had come to see? 
Long silence. 
?As you?re here sir, you must know what happens here?? 
?I don?t. Enlighten me?. 
Another long silence. 
When she replied, she seemed utterly amazed I had never heard of the Seven Steps to Heaven drive thru funeral home (or whatever it called itself) ?now who do you want to see?? 
It seemed the only way out required me to pass someone, so I paused very briefly alongside a Mrs Jones - but I?m sure that the concept of drive thru funeral homes were later copied by others such as McDonalds and Starbucks and that?s why I refuse to patronise either, unless I walk into them - providing I?ve found a parking place. 

Jonmac 
** [email-masked] ** 

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Message: 3 
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 18:26:36 -0400 (EDT) 
From: [email-masked] 
To: [email-masked] 
Cc: [email-masked] 
Subject: [TR] Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park CA 

I have a friend interested in purchasing a Stag that is located in Canoga Park, CA. 

We could use somebody generally local and familiar with Stags to do a PPI on the car and report back. 

Reasonable fee is offered for the service. 

If able and interested, please contact me at 

[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked] 

702.882.6711 

I will make introductions 

Thank you 

Jonas Payne 
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Message: 4 
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 23:59:00 +0000 (UTC) 
From: Frank Fisher <[email-masked]> 
To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>, 
"[email-masked]" <[email-masked]> 
Cc: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]> 
Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park 
CA 

Jonas?have you tried posting on the triumph club of sothern california facebook page? 

On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 04:35:07 PM PDT, [email-masked] <[email-masked]> wrote: 

I have a friend interested in purchasing a Stag that is located in Canoga Park, CA. 

We could use somebody generally local and familiar with Stags to do a PPI on the car and report back. 

Reasonable fee is offered for the service.? 

If able and interested, please contact me at 

[email-masked] 

702.882.6711 

I will make introductions 

Thank you 

Jonas Payne 

** [email-masked] ** 

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Message: 5 
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 00:49:36 +0000 
From: Jonas Payne <[email-masked]> 
To: Frank Fisher <[email-masked]>, "[email-masked]" 
<[email-masked]> 
Cc: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]> 
Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park 
CA 
<[email-masked]> 

I contacted 3 of their board members via email. 

Presumably they will notify their membership? 

That?s how we handle those sorts of inquiries in the BACLV. 

Jonas Payne 
PBR Consulting Services 
2260 Corporate Circle Suite 490 
Henderson, NV 89074 
702.882.6711 

From: Frank Fisher <[email-masked]> 
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2023 4:59 PM 
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked] 
Cc: [email-masked] 
Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park CA 

Jonas 
have you tried posting on the triumph club of sothern california facebook page? 

I have a friend interested in purchasing a Stag that is located in Canoga Park, CA. 

We could use somebody generally local and familiar with Stags to do a PPI on the car and report back. 

Reasonable fee is offered for the service. 

If able and interested, please contact me at 

702.882.6711 

I will make introductions 

Thank you 

Jonas Payne 

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Message: 6 
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 15:08:48 GMT 
From: "Matt" <[email-masked]> 
To: [email-masked] 
Cc: [email-masked], [email-masked], [email-masked] 
Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park 
CA 

With all this talk of selling cars and divesting spares it is good to see someone still growing their fleet! Good luck with the acquisition Jonas. 

---------- Original Message ---------- 
From: Jonas Payne <[email-masked]> 
To: Frank Fisher <[email-masked]>, "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]> 
Cc: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]> 
Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park CA 
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 00:49:36 +0000 

I contacted 3 of their board members via email. 

Presumably they will notify their membership? 

That&rsquo;s how we handle those sorts of inquiries in the BACLV. 

Jonas Payne 
PBR Consulting Services 
2260 Corporate Circle Suite 490 
Henderson, NV 89074 
702.882.6711 

From: Frank Fisher <[email-masked]> 
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2023 4:59 PM 
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked] 
Cc: [email-masked] 
Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park CA 

Jonas 
have you tried posting on the triumph club of sothern california facebook page? 

On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 04:35:07 PM PDT, [email-masked] <[email-masked]> wrote: 

I have a friend interested in purchasing a Stag that is located in Canoga Park, CA. 
We could use somebody generally local and familiar with Stags to do a PPI on the car and report back. 
Reasonable fee is offered for the service. 
If able and interested, please contact me at 
[email-masked] 
702.882.6711 
I will make introductions 
Thank you 
Jonas Payne 
** [email-masked] ** 

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Message: 7 
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 22:40:13 +0000 
From: Robert M Lang <[email-masked]> 
To: TR3 Triumphs <[email-masked]>, New England Triumphs 
<[email-masked]>, David Friedlander <[email-masked]> 
Subject: Re: [TR] [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket 
<[email-masked]> 

As a rule of thumb, I try to use the better brand gaskets when they are available. I cannot speak to TR3 gaskets, but I find that the cheaper gaskets sometimes need "fettling" to fit properly. I see this all the time with the manifold gaskets for TR6 and there have been times when there was no choice available - just available. I chose "available" so I could drive the car. The cheaper gasket ate 2 hours of my labor to fit. The stud holes were off by 1 / 8 inch, plus or minus. Ans one or two holes were not the correct diameter. 

That said, if you're like me, you buy the cheap one AND the expensive one and one winds up either as a spare or in the bin... 

Good luck! 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
Bob Lang 
Cell: 339-927-4489 
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________________________________ 
From: NET <[email-masked]> on behalf of David Friedlander via NET <[email-masked]> 
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2023 3:22 PM 
To: TR3 Triumphs <[email-masked]>; New England Triumphs <[email-masked]> 
Subject: [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket 

Greetings everyone ~ 

Opinion time: 

Subject: Oil pan gaskets. 

Without disparaging Moss, I note their 692-000 Payen gasket is $26.99 
while their stock gasket (695-000) is just $4.99. Is the Payen gasket TR3 
that much better?? Worth the $$ difference? 

Dave 
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Message: 8 
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 19:14:59 -0400 
From: Philip Gott <[email-masked]> 
To: Robert M Lang <[email-masked]> 
Cc: TR3 Triumphs <[email-masked]>, New England Triumphs 
<[email-masked]>, David Friedlander <[email-masked]> 
Subject: Re: [TR] [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket 

I buy the cheaper gaskets and use Ultra Black RTV. They do NOT leak that way and the thick gasket allows for relatively easy removal (race EMG in a come apart a lot). 
Phil 

Sent from my iPhone 

> On Jun 28, 2023, at 6:41 PM, Robert M Lang via NET <[email-masked]> wrote: 
> 
> ? 
> As a rule of thumb, I try to use the better brand gaskets when they are available. I cannot speak to TR3 gaskets, but I find that the cheaper gaskets sometimes need "fettling" to fit properly. I see this all the time with the manifold gaskets for TR6 and there have been times when there was no choice available - just available. I chose "available" so I could drive the car. The cheaper gasket ate 2 hours of my labor to fit. The stud holes were off by 1 / 8 inch, plus or minus. Ans one or two holes were not the correct diameter. 
> 
> That said, if you're like me, you buy the cheap one AND the expensive one and one winds up either as a spare or in the bin... 
> 
> Good luck! 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> Bob Lang 
> Cell: 339-927-4489 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> 
> From: NET <[email-masked]> on behalf of David Friedlander via NET <[email-masked]> 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2023 3:22 PM 
> To: TR3 Triumphs <[email-masked]>; New England Triumphs <[email-masked]> 
> Subject: [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket 
> 
> Greetings everyone ~ 
> 
> Opinion time: 
> 
> Subject: Oil pan gaskets. 
> 
> Without disparaging Moss, I note their 692-000 Payen gasket is $26.99 
> while their stock gasket (695-000) is just $4.99. Is the Payen gasket TR3 
> that much better?? Worth the $$ difference? 
> 
> Dave 
> _______________________________________________ 
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Message: 9 
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 09:16:05 -0600 
From: Mark Bradakis <[email-masked]> 
To: [email-masked] 
Subject: [TR] Fwd: [Fot] JK Jackson 1939 - 2023 

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Subject: [Fot] JK Jackson 1939 - 2023 
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 06:53:44 -0400 
From: yellow04 via Fot <[email-masked]> 
To: [email-masked] 

The go-fast Triumph fraternity lost an important member last Sunday, JK 
Jackson had died. 

I was lucky enough to meet JK very early in my racing exploits, and he 
took pity on my attempts to field a TR4 that was in a pitiful state. His 
guidance some twenty years ago was key to my climbing the curve from 
neophyte to racer. He was always willing to offer advice, and if you 
followed his advice to the letter the outcome was usually positive. If 
it didn't turn out as expected, I know I screwed something up! It was JK 
who explained to me how to build a big chassis Triumph gearbox that goes 
the distance, his techniques worked back then and I still use his 
formula on every gearbox I build. 

As I stand in front of my parts washer working the dirty parts, I still 
think is this clean, or is it JK clean... 

RIP, my friend. 

Henry Frye 

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 a box on post. <br>Then the box spoke to me. <br>I couldn?t understand wha=
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ng who I had come to see. Perhaps both tempers were getting frayed until I =
asked her why she kept asking who it was I had come to see?<br>Long silence=
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n; charset=3D"utf-8"<br><br>I have a friend interested in purchasing a Stag=
 that is located in Canoga Park, CA.<br><br>We could use somebody generally=
 local and familiar with Stags to do a PPI on the car and report back.<br><=
br>Reasonable fee is offered for the service. <br><br>If able and intereste=
d, please contact me at<br><br>[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]<b=
r><br>702.882.6711<br><br>I will make introductions<br><br>Thank you<br><br=
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TC)<br>From: Frank Fisher &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>To: "triumphs@auto=
x.team.net" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;,<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"[email-masked]" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>Cc: "=
[email-masked]" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Pur=
chase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;CA<br>Message-ID: &lt;1924355504.342812.1688083140068=
@mail.yahoo.com&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br><br>&=
nbsp;Jonas?have you tried posting on the triumph club of sothern california=
 facebook page?<br><br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at=
 04:35:07 PM PDT, [email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote: &nbsp;=
<br>&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>I have a friend interested in purchasing a S=
tag that is located in Canoga Park, CA.<br><br>&nbsp;<br>We could use someb=
ody generally local and familiar with Stags to do a PPI on the car and repo=
rt back. <br><br>&nbsp;<br>Reasonable fee is offered for the service.? <br>=
<br>&nbsp;<br>If able and interested, please contact me at <br><br>&nbsp;<b=
r>[email-masked]<br><br>&nbsp;<br>702.882.6711<br><br>&nbsp;<br>I will m=
ake introductions <br><br>&nbsp;<br>Thank you<br><br>&nbsp;<br>Jonas Payne<=
br><br>&nbsp;** [email-masked] **<br><br>Donate: http://www.team.n=
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r>Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 00:49:36 +0000<br>From: Jonas Payne &lt;jpayne@jpa=
ynepbr.onmicrosoft.com&gt;<br>To: Frank Fisher &lt;[email-masked]&gt;,=
 "[email-masked]"<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>Cc: "[email-masked]" &lt;architec=
[email-masked]&gt;<br>Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag =
- Canoga Park<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;CA<br>Mess=
age-ID:<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;BN8PR18MB289=
[email-masked]&gt;<br>&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Content-Type: text/plain=
; charset=3D"utf-8"<br><br>I contacted 3 of their board members via email.<=
br><br>Presumably they will notify their membership?<br><br>That?s how we h=
andle those sorts of inquiries in the BACLV.<br><br>Jonas Payne<br>PBR Cons=
ulting Services<br>2260 Corporate Circle Suite 490<br>Henderson, NV 89074<b=
r>702.882.6711<br><br>From: Frank Fisher &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>Sen=
t: Thursday, June 29, 2023 4:59 PM<br>To: [email-masked]; jpaynepb=
[email-masked]<br>Cc: [email-masked]<br>Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Purchase Inspe=
ction - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park CA<br><br>Jonas<br>have you tried postin=
g on the triumph club of sothern california facebook page?<br><br><br><br>O=
n Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 04:35:07 PM PDT, [email-masked]&lt;mailto:j=
[email-masked]&gt; &lt;[email-masked]&lt;mailto:[email-masked]&gt;&=
gt; wrote:<br><br><br><br>I have a friend interested in purchasing a Stag t=
hat is located in Canoga Park, CA.<br><br>We could use somebody generally l=
ocal and familiar with Stags to do a PPI on the car and report back.<br><br=
>Reasonable fee is offered for the service.<br><br>If able and interested, =
please contact me at<br><br>[email-masked]&lt;mailto:[email-masked]&g=
t;<br><br>702.882.6711<br><br>I will make introductions<br><br>Thank you<br=
><br>Jonas Payne<br>** [email-masked]&lt;mailto:[email-masked]=
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m<br>Cc: [email-masked],&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p; [email-masked],&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
 [email-masked]<br>Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph =
Stag - Canoga Park<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;CA<br=
>Message-ID: &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>Conte=
nt-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"windows-1252"<br><br>With all this talk of =
selling cars and divesting spares it is good to see someone still growing t=
heir fleet! &nbsp;Good luck with the acquisition Jonas. &nbsp;<br><br>-----=
----- Original Message ----------<br>From: Jonas Payne &lt;jpayne@jpaynepbr=
.onmicrosoft.com&gt;<br>To: Frank Fisher &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, "triu=
[email-masked]" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>Cc: "architect1@att=
.net" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Purchase Inspecti=
on - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park CA<br>Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 00:49:36 +0000=
<br><br><br>I contacted 3 of their board members via email. <br>&nbsp;<br>P=
resumably they will notify their membership? <br>&nbsp;<br>That&amp;rsquo;s=
 how we handle those sorts of inquiries in the BACLV. <br>&nbsp;<br>Jonas P=
ayne<br>PBR Consulting Services<br>2260 Corporate Circle Suite 490<br>Hende=
rson, NV 89074<br>702.882.6711<br>&nbsp;<br>From: Frank Fisher &lt;yellowtr=
[email-masked]&gt; <br>&nbsp;Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2023 4:59 PM<br>&nbsp;To=
: [email-masked]; [email-masked]<br>&nbsp;Cc: [email-masked]=
t<br>&nbsp;Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canog=
a Park CA<br>&nbsp;<br>Jonas <br>have you tried posting on the triumph club=
 of sothern california facebook page?<br>&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;<br>On T=
hursday, June 29, 2023 at 04:35:07 PM PDT, [email-masked] &lt;jpaynepbr@=
cox.net&gt; wrote: <br>&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;<br>I have a friend interested in pu=
rchasing a Stag that is located in Canoga Park, CA.<br>We could use somebod=
y generally local and familiar with Stags to do a PPI on the car and report=
 back. <br>Reasonable fee is offered for the service. &nbsp;<br>If able and=
 interested, please contact me at <br>[email-masked]<br>702.882.6711<br>=
I will make introductions <br>Thank you<br>Jonas Payne<br>** triumphs@autox=
.team.net **<br>&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html<br>=
&nbsp;Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs &nbsp;http://www.team=
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e: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 22:40:13 +0000<br>From: Robert M Lang &lt;[email-masked]=
&gt;<br>To: TR3 Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, New England Trium=
phs<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;net@newenglandtr=
iumphs.org&gt;, David Friedlander &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>Subject: Re=
: [TR] [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket<br>Message-ID:<br>&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;LV2PR01MB7646E07408462D5EA02C87B3=
[email-masked]&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"<br=
><br>As a rule of thumb, I try to use the better brand gaskets when they ar=
e available. I cannot speak to TR3 gaskets, but I find that the cheaper gas=
kets sometimes need "fettling" to fit properly. I see this all the time wit=
h the manifold gaskets for TR6 and there have been times when there was no =
choice available - just available. I chose "available" so I could drive the=
 car. The cheaper gasket ate 2 hours of my labor to fit. The stud holes wer=
e off by 1 / 8 inch, plus or minus. Ans one or two &nbsp;holes were not the=
 correct diameter.<br><br>That said, if you're like me, you buy the cheap o=
ne AND the expensive one and one winds up either as a spare or in the bin..=
.<br><br>Good luck!<br><br>------------------------------------------------=
---------------------------<br>Bob Lang<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp=
; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Cell: 339-9=
27-4489<br>----------------------------------------------------------------=
-----------<br><br>________________________________<br>From: NET &lt;net-bo=
[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of David Friedlander via NET &lt=
;[email-masked]&gt;<br>Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2023 3:22 PM<b=
r>To: TR3 Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; New England Triumphs &l=
t;[email-masked]&gt;<br>Subject: [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil P=
an Gasket<br><br>Greetings everyone ~<br><br>Opinion time:<br><br>Subject: =
Oil pan gaskets.<br><br>Without disparaging Moss, I note their 692-000 Paye=
n gasket is $26.99<br>while their stock gasket (695-000) is just $4.99. Is =
the Payen gasket TR3<br>that much better?? Worth the $$ difference?<br><br>=
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hilip Gott &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>To: Robert M Lang &lt;[email-masked]&=
gt;<br>Cc: TR3 Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, New England Triump=
hs<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;net@newenglandtri=
umphs.org&gt;, David Friedlander &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>Subject: Re:=
 [TR] [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket<br>Message-ID: &lt;B3CDA447-F=
[email-masked]&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=
=3D"utf-8"<br><br>I buy the cheaper gaskets and use Ultra Black RTV. They d=
o NOT leak that way and the thick gasket allows for relatively easy removal=
 (race EMG in a come apart a lot).<br>Phil<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<br><b=
r>&gt; On Jun 28, 2023, at 6:41 PM, Robert M Lang via NET &lt;net@newenglan=
dtriumphs.org&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; ?<br>&gt; As a rule of thumb, I t=
ry to use the better brand gaskets when they are available. I cannot speak =
to TR3 gaskets, but I find that the cheaper gaskets sometimes need "fettlin=
g" to fit properly. I see this all the time with the manifold gaskets for T=
R6 and there have been times when there was no choice available - just avai=
lable. I chose "available" so I could drive the car. The cheaper gasket ate=
 2 hours of my labor to fit. The stud holes were off by 1 / 8 inch, plus or=
 minus. Ans one or two &nbsp;holes were not the correct diameter.<br>&gt; <=
br>&gt; That said, if you're like me, you buy the cheap one AND the expensi=
ve one and one winds up either as a spare or in the bin...<br>&gt; <br>&gt;=
 Good luck!<br>&gt; <br>&gt; ----------------------------------------------=
-----------------------------<br>&gt; Bob Lang &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; <br>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nb=
sp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Cell: 339-927-4489<br>&gt; ---------=
------------------------------------------------------------------<br>&gt; =
<br>&gt; From: NET &lt;[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of =
David Friedlander via NET &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>&gt; Sent: =
Wednesday, June 28, 2023 3:22 PM<br>&gt; To: TR3 Triumphs &lt;triumphs@auto=
x.team.net&gt;; New England Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>=
&gt; Subject: [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket<br>&gt; &nbsp;<br>&gt=
; Greetings everyone ~<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Opinion time:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Subj=
ect: Oil pan gaskets.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Without disparaging Moss, I note the=
ir 692-000 Payen gasket is $26.99 <br>&gt; while their stock gasket (695-00=
0) is just $4.99. Is the Payen gasket TR3<br>&gt; that much better?? Worth =
the $$ difference?<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Dave<br>&gt; __________________________=
_____________________<br>&gt; NET mailing list<br>&gt; NET@newenglandtriump=
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r>From: Mark Bradakis &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>To: [email-masked].=
net<br>Subject: [TR] Fwd: [Fot] JK Jackson 1939 - 2023<br>Message-ID: &lt;1=
[email-masked]&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/=
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: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 06:53:44 -0400<br>From: yellow04 via Fot &lt;[email-masked]=
eam.net&gt;<br>Reply-To: yellow04 &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>To: fot@=
autox.team.net<br><br>The go-fast Triumph fraternity lost an important memb=
er last Sunday, JK <br>Jackson had died.<br><br>I was lucky enough to meet =
JK very early in my racing exploits, and he <br>took pity on my attempts to=
 field a TR4 that was in a pitiful state. His <br>guidance some twenty year=
s ago was key to my climbing the curve from <br>neophyte to racer. He was a=
lways willing to offer advice, and if you <br>followed his advice to the le=
tter the outcome was usually positive. If <br>it didn't turn out as expecte=
d, I know I screwed something up! It was JK <br>who explained to me how to =
build a big chassis Triumph gearbox that goes <br>the distance, his techniq=
ues worked back then and I still use his <br>formula on every gearbox I bui=
ld.<br><br>As I stand in front of my parts washer working the dirty parts, =
I still <br>think is this clean, or is it JK clean...<br><br>RIP, my friend=
.<br><br>Henry Frye<br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Su=
bject: Digest Footer<br><br>_______________________________________________=
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Go to BrightaTrailer.com <http://brightatrailer.com/> and do a search =
for TR8s. You can click on past auctions and see what they sold for, and =
read the details to see what condition they were in to get the price =
they sold for.

I did the search and here is the link: =
https://bringatrailer.com/search/?s=3DTriumph+TR8 =
<https://bringatrailer.com/search/?s=3DTriumph+TR8>  There are listings =
of past auctions going back to 2017.  Lots of info.

Good luck,

Rye

> On Jun 30, 2023, at 2:39 PM, Mike Coe <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> I have yo sell my TR8 that I've owned here in Calgary. Alberta. since =
2006. Any idea what TR8 fetch price wise? Its in excellent condition, =
shape drive and mileage.
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>    6. Re: Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park CA =
(Matt)
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> In 2009, I was somewhere in Iowa. Large town, might have been Des =
Moines but my TomTom gps thing lost all satellite signals - probably =
because of very high buildings in the immediate vicinity?
>  Anyway, when the signal returned, I was given the instruction to take =
the very next right turn, which I did. The turn itself was through a gap =
in a wall and then on to a very neat and narrow blacktopped road, =
surrounded by immaculate lawns and two cars in front of me who were both =
halted. The cars then went elsewhere, one by one, and the blue Stag and =
I were brought to a halt by a sign saying STOP HERE alongside a box on =
post.=20
> Then the box spoke to me.=20
> I couldn?t understand what the woman on the other end was saying, and =
she couldn?t understand me, so everything started off swimmingly. The =
voice in the box insisted on knowing who I had come to see and simply =
couldn?t get her head round the fact I knew no one at this location and =
I was only there because of a GPS malfunction. The whole process was =
like pulling teeth and the woman continually asking who I had come to =
see. Perhaps both tempers were getting frayed until I asked her why she =
kept asking who it was I had come to see?
> When she replied, she seemed utterly amazed I had never heard of the =
Seven Steps to Heaven drive thru funeral home (or whatever it called =
itself) ?now who do you want to see??
> It seemed the only way out required me to pass someone, so I paused =
very briefly alongside  a Mrs Jones - but I?m sure that the concept of =
drive thru funeral homes were later copied by others such as McDonalds =
and Starbucks and that?s why I refuse to patronise either, unless I walk =
into them - providing I?ve found a parking place.
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> Wow! What a fantastic story! Just another example of what technology =
has done to us!
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> From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
John Macartney
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> In 2009, I was somewhere in Iowa. Large town, might have been Des =
Moines but my TomTom gps thing lost all satellite signals - probably =
because of very high buildings in the immediate vicinity?
>  Anyway, when the signal returned, I was given the instruction to take =
the very next right turn, which I did. The turn itself was through a gap =
in a wall and then on to a very neat and narrow blacktopped road, =
surrounded by immaculate lawns and two cars in front of me who were both =
halted. The cars then went elsewhere, one by one, and the blue Stag and =
I were brought to a halt by a sign saying STOP HERE alongside a box on =
post.=20
> Then the box spoke to me.=20
> I couldn?t understand what the woman on the other end was saying, and =
she couldn?t understand me, so everything started off swimmingly. The =
voice in the box insisted on knowing who I had come to see and simply =
couldn?t get her head round the fact I knew no one at this location and =
I was only there because of a GPS malfunction. The whole process was =
like pulling teeth and the woman continually asking who I had come to =
see. Perhaps both tempers were getting frayed until I asked her why she =
kept asking who it was I had come to see?
> When she replied, she seemed utterly amazed I had never heard of the =
Seven Steps to Heaven drive thru funeral home (or whatever it called =
itself) ?now who do you want to see??
> It seemed the only way out required me to pass someone, so I paused =
very briefly alongside  a Mrs Jones - but I?m sure that the concept of =
drive thru funeral homes were later copied by others such as McDonalds =
and Starbucks and that?s why I refuse to patronise either, unless I walk =
into them - providing I?ve found a parking place.
>=20
>=20
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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> I have a friend interested in purchasing a Stag that is located in =
Canoga Park, CA.
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> We could use somebody generally local and familiar with Stags to do a =
PPI on the car and report back.
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> Reasonable fee is offered for the service.=20
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>  Jonas?have you tried posting on the triumph club of sothern =
california facebook page?
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>     On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 04:35:07 PM PDT, [email-masked] =
<[email-masked]> wrote: =20
> =20
>   =20
> I have a friend interested in purchasing a Stag that is located in =
Canoga Park, CA.
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> =20
> We could use somebody generally local and familiar with Stags to do a =
PPI on the car and report back.=20
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> =20
> Reasonable fee is offered for the service.?=20
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> =20
> If able and interested, please contact me at=20
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> [email-masked]
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> 702.882.6711
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> I will make introductions=20
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> Thank you
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> Jonas Payne
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PPI on the car and report back.
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> As a rule of thumb, I try to use the better brand gaskets when they =
are available. I cannot speak to TR3 gaskets, but I find that the =
cheaper gaskets sometimes need "fettling" to fit properly. I see this =
all the time with the manifold gaskets for TR6 and there have been times =
when there was no choice available - just available. I chose "available" =
so I could drive the car. The cheaper gasket ate 2 hours of my labor to =
fit. The stud holes were off by 1 / 8 inch, plus or minus. Ans one or =
two  holes were not the correct diameter.
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> while their stock gasket (695-000) is just $4.99. Is the Payen gasket =
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EMG in a come apart a lot).
> Phil
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all the time with the manifold gaskets for TR6 and there have been times =
when there was no choice available - just available. I chose "available" =
so I could drive the car. The cheaper gasket ate 2 hours of my labor to =
fit. The stud holes were off by 1 / 8 inch, plus or minus. Ans one or =
two  holes were not the correct diameter.
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charset=3Dus-ascii"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Go =
to <a href=3D"http://BrightaTrailer.com" =
class=3D"">BrightaTrailer.com</a>&nbsp;and do a search for TR8s. You can =
click on past auctions and see what they sold for, and read the details =
to see what condition they were in to get the price they sold for.<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I did the search and =
here is the link:&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://bringatrailer.com/search/?s=3DTriumph+TR8" =
class=3D"">https://bringatrailer.com/search/?s=3DTriumph+TR8</a>&nbsp; =
There are listings of past auctions going back to 2017. &nbsp;Lots of =
info.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Good =
luck,</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Rye</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jun =
30, 2023, at 2:39 PM, Mike Coe &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
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class=3D""><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I =
have yo sell my TR8 that I've owned here in Calgary. Alberta. since =
2006. Any idea what TR8 fetch price wise? Its in excellent condition, =
shape drive and mileage.</div><div class=3D""><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1" =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Cheers</div><div class=3D"">Mike =
Coe</div><div class=3D""><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1" class=3D""></div><div =
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 class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp; 1. Speedo conversion and GPS signal loss (John =
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signal loss (Alex &amp; Janet Thomson)<br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp; 3. =
Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park CA<br =
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Canoga Park CA (Matt)<br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp; 7. Re: [NET] Payen vs. =
Standard Oil Pan Gasket (Robert M Lang)<br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp; 8. =
Re: [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket (Philip Gott)<br =
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-------<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Message: 1<br class=3D"">Date: Thu, =
29 Jun 2023 21:49:03 +0100<br class=3D"">From: John Macartney &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><br class=3D"">Subject: [TR] =
Speedo conversion and GPS signal loss<br class=3D"">Message-ID: &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br =
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<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">In 2009, I was somewhere in Iowa. Large =
town, might have been Des Moines but my TomTom gps thing lost all =
satellite signals - probably because of very high buildings in the =
immediate vicinity?<br class=3D"">&nbsp;Anyway, when the signal =
returned, I was given the instruction to take the very next right turn, =
which I did. The turn itself was through a gap in a wall and then on to =
a very neat and narrow blacktopped road, surrounded by immaculate lawns =
and two cars in front of me who were both halted. The cars then went =
elsewhere, one by one, and the blue Stag and I were brought to a halt by =
a sign saying STOP HERE alongside a box on post. <br class=3D"">Then the =
box spoke to me. <br class=3D"">I couldn?t understand what the woman on =
the other end was saying, and she couldn?t understand me, so everything =
started off swimmingly. The voice in the box insisted on knowing who I =
had come to see and simply couldn?t get her head round the fact I knew =
no one at this location and I was only there because of a GPS =
malfunction. The whole process was like pulling teeth and the woman =
continually asking who I had come to see. Perhaps both tempers were =
getting frayed until I asked her why she kept asking who it was I had =
come to see?<br class=3D"">Long silence.<br class=3D"">?As you?re here =
sir, you must know what happens here??<br class=3D"">?I don?t. Enlighten =
me?.<br class=3D"">Another long silence.<br class=3D"">When she replied, =
she seemed utterly amazed I had never heard of the Seven Steps to Heaven =
drive thru funeral home (or whatever it called itself) ?now who do you =
want to see??<br class=3D"">It seemed the only way out required me to =
pass someone, so I paused very briefly alongside &nbsp;a Mrs Jones - but =
I?m sure that the concept of drive thru funeral homes were later copied =
by others such as McDonalds and Starbucks and that?s why I refuse to =
patronise either, unless I walk into them - providing I?ve found a =
parking place.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Jonmac<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">------------------------------<br class=3D""><br=
 class=3D"">Message: 2<br class=3D"">Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 17:39:18 =
-0400<br class=3D"">From: "Alex &amp; Janet Thomson" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">To: "'John =
Macartney'" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;,<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">Subject: Re: =
[TR] Speedo conversion and GPS signal loss<br class=3D"">Message-ID: =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br =
class=3D"">Content-Type: =
text/plain;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;charset=3D"utf-=
8"<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Wow! What a fantastic story! Just =
another example of what technology has done to us!<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Alex Thomson<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">-----Original =
Message-----<br class=3D"">From: Triumphs [<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] On Behalf Of John =
Macartney<br class=3D"">Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2023 4:49 PM<br =
class=3D"">To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><br class=3D"">Subject: [TR] =
Speedo conversion and GPS signal loss<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">In =
2009, I was somewhere in Iowa. Large town, might have been Des Moines =
but my TomTom gps thing lost all satellite signals - probably because of =
very high buildings in the immediate vicinity?<br class=3D"">&nbsp;Anyway,=
 when the signal returned, I was given the instruction to take the very =
next right turn, which I did. The turn itself was through a gap in a =
wall and then on to a very neat and narrow blacktopped road, surrounded =
by immaculate lawns and two cars in front of me who were both halted. =
The cars then went elsewhere, one by one, and the blue Stag and I were =
brought to a halt by a sign saying STOP HERE alongside a box on post. =
<br class=3D"">Then the box spoke to me. <br class=3D"">I couldn?t =
understand what the woman on the other end was saying, and she couldn?t =
understand me, so everything started off swimmingly. The voice in the =
box insisted on knowing who I had come to see and simply couldn?t get =
her head round the fact I knew no one at this location and I was only =
there because of a GPS malfunction. The whole process was like pulling =
teeth and the woman continually asking who I had come to see. Perhaps =
both tempers were getting frayed until I asked her why she kept asking =
who it was I had come to see?<br class=3D"">Long silence.<br =
class=3D"">?As you?re here sir, you must know what happens here??<br =
class=3D"">?I don?t. Enlighten me?.<br class=3D"">Another long =
silence.<br class=3D"">When she replied, she seemed utterly amazed I had =
never heard of the Seven Steps to Heaven drive thru funeral home (or =
whatever it called itself) ?now who do you want to see??<br class=3D"">It =
seemed the only way out required me to pass someone, so I paused very =
briefly alongside &nbsp;a Mrs Jones - but I?m sure that the concept of =
drive thru funeral homes were later copied by others such as McDonalds =
and Starbucks and that?s why I refuse to patronise either, unless I walk =
into them - providing I?ve found a parking place.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Jonmac<br class=3D"">** <a =
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-0400 (EDT)<br class=3D"">From: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><br class=3D"">To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><br class=3D"">Cc: <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><br =
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Park CA<br class=3D"">Message-ID: &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
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class=3D"">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">I have a friend interested in purchasing a Stag that is =
located in Canoga Park, CA.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">We could use =
somebody generally local and familiar with Stags to do a PPI on the car =
and report back.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Reasonable fee is offered =
for the service. <br class=3D""><br class=3D"">If able and interested, =
please contact me at<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">mailto:[email-masked]</a><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">702.882.6711<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I will make =
introductions<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Thank you<br class=3D""><br =
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class=3D"">Message: 4<br class=3D"">Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 23:59:00 =
+0000 (UTC)<br class=3D"">From: Frank Fisher &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">To: "<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;,<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>" =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">Cc: "<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>" =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">Subject: Re: [TR] =
Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;CA<br =
class=3D"">Message-ID: &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br =
class=3D"">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;Jonas?have you tried posting on the triumph club of =
sothern california facebook page?<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 04:35:07 PM =
PDT, <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote: &nbsp;<br class=3D"">&nbsp;<br=
 class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp; <br class=3D"">I have a friend interested in =
purchasing a Stag that is located in Canoga Park, CA.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D"">We could use somebody generally local =
and familiar with Stags to do a PPI on the car and report back. <br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D"">Reasonable fee is offered =
for the service.? <br class=3D""><br class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D"">If =
able and interested, please contact me at <br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D""><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"">702.882.6711<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"">I will make introductions <br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D"">Thank you<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D"">Jonas Payne<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;** [email-masked] **<br class=3D""><br =
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class=3D"">Message: 5<br class=3D"">Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 00:49:36 =
+0000<br class=3D"">From: Jonas Payne =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">To: Frank Fisher =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;, "[email-masked]"<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;triumphs@au=
tox.team.net&gt;<br class=3D"">Cc: "[email-masked]" =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Purchase =
Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;CA<br =
class=3D"">Message-ID:<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;BN8PR18MB28=
[email-masked]&gt;<br=
 class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">I contacted 3 of their board members via email.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Presumably they will notify their =
membership?<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">That?s how we handle those =
sorts of inquiries in the BACLV.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Jonas =
Payne<br class=3D"">PBR Consulting Services<br class=3D"">2260 Corporate =
Circle Suite 490<br class=3D"">Henderson, NV 89074<br =
class=3D"">702.882.6711<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">From: Frank Fisher =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2023 =
4:59 PM<br class=3D"">To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]<br =
class=3D"">Cc: [email-masked]<br class=3D"">Subject: Re: [TR] =
Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park CA<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Jonas<br class=3D"">have you tried posting on the triumph =
club of sothern california facebook page?<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br=
 class=3D""><br class=3D"">On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 04:35:07 PM =
PDT, [email-masked]&lt;mailto:[email-masked]&gt; =
&lt;[email-masked]&lt;mailto:[email-masked]&gt;&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I have a friend =
interested in purchasing a Stag that is located in Canoga Park, CA.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">We could use somebody generally local and =
familiar with Stags to do a PPI on the car and report back.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Reasonable fee is offered for the service.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">If able and interested, please contact me =
at<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">[email-masked]&lt;mailto:[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">702.882.6711<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I =
will make introductions<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Thank you<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Jonas Payne<br class=3D"">** =
[email-masked]&lt;mailto:[email-masked]&gt; **<br =
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class=3D"">Message: 6<br class=3D"">Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 15:08:48 =
GMT<br class=3D"">From: "Matt" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">To: =
[email-masked]<br class=3D"">Cc: =
[email-masked],&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
[email-masked],&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
[email-masked]<br class=3D"">Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Purchase =
Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;CA<br =
class=3D"">Message-ID: =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"windows-1252"<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">With all this talk of selling cars and =
divesting spares it is good to see someone still growing their fleet! =
&nbsp;Good luck with the acquisition Jonas. &nbsp;<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">---------- Original Message ----------<br class=3D"">From: =
Jonas Payne &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">To: =
Frank Fisher &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, "[email-masked]" =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">Cc: "[email-masked]" =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Purchase =
Inspection - Triumph Stag - Canoga Park CA<br class=3D"">Date: Fri, 30 =
Jun 2023 00:49:36 +0000<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I =
contacted 3 of their board members via email. <br class=3D"">&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"">Presumably they will notify their membership? <br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D"">That&amp;rsquo;s how we handle those =
sorts of inquiries in the BACLV. <br class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D"">Jonas=
 Payne<br class=3D"">PBR Consulting Services<br class=3D"">2260 =
Corporate Circle Suite 490<br class=3D"">Henderson, NV 89074<br =
class=3D"">702.882.6711<br class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D"">From: Frank =
Fisher &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br class=3D"">&nbsp;Sent: Thursday, =
June 29, 2023 4:59 PM<br class=3D"">&nbsp;To: [email-masked]; =
[email-masked]<br class=3D"">&nbsp;Cc: [email-masked]<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;Subject: Re: [TR] Pre-Purchase Inspection - Triumph =
Stag - Canoga Park CA<br class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D"">Jonas <br =
class=3D"">have you tried posting on the triumph club of sothern =
california facebook page?<br class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D"">&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D"">On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 04:35:07 =
PM PDT, [email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote: <br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D"">I have a friend =
interested in purchasing a Stag that is located in Canoga Park, CA.<br =
class=3D"">We could use somebody generally local and familiar with Stags =
to do a PPI on the car and report back. <br class=3D"">Reasonable fee is =
offered for the service. &nbsp;<br class=3D"">If able and interested, =
please contact me at <br class=3D"">[email-masked]<br =
class=3D"">702.882.6711<br class=3D"">I will make introductions <br =
class=3D"">Thank you<br class=3D"">Jonas Payne<br class=3D"">** =
[email-masked] **<br class=3D"">&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html<br =
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class=3D"">Message: 7<br class=3D"">Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 22:40:13 =
+0000<br class=3D"">From: Robert M Lang &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">To: TR3 Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, New England =
Triumphs<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;net@newengl=
andtriumphs.org&gt;, David Friedlander &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">Subject: Re: [TR] [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket<br =
class=3D"">Message-ID:<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;LV2PR01MB76=
[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">As a rule of thumb, I try to use the better =
brand gaskets when they are available. I cannot speak to TR3 gaskets, =
but I find that the cheaper gaskets sometimes need "fettling" to fit =
properly. I see this all the time with the manifold gaskets for TR6 and =
there have been times when there was no choice available - just =
available. I chose "available" so I could drive the car. The cheaper =
gasket ate 2 hours of my labor to fit. The stud holes were off by 1 / 8 =
inch, plus or minus. Ans one or two &nbsp;holes were not the correct =
diameter.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">That said, if you're like me, you =
buy the cheap one AND the expensive one and one winds up either as a =
spare or in the bin...<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Good luck!<br =
class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">---------------------------------------------------------------=
------------<br class=3D"">Bob Lang<br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp;Cell: 339-927-4489<br =
class=3D"">---------------------------------------------------------------=
------------<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">________________________________<br class=3D"">From: NET =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of David =
Friedlander via NET &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">Sent:=
 Wednesday, June 28, 2023 3:22 PM<br class=3D"">To: TR3 Triumphs =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;; New England Triumphs =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">Subject: [NET] Payen =
vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Greetings =
everyone ~<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Opinion time:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Subject: Oil pan gaskets.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Without =
disparaging Moss, I note their 692-000 Payen gasket is $26.99<br =
class=3D"">while their stock gasket (695-000) is just $4.99. Is the =
Payen gasket TR3<br class=3D"">that much better?? Worth the $$ =
difference?<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Dave<br class=3D"">--------------=
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class=3D"">Message: 8<br class=3D"">Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 19:14:59 =
-0400<br class=3D"">From: Philip Gott &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">To: Robert M Lang &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">Cc: TR3 =
Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, New England Triumphs<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;net@newengl=
andtriumphs.org&gt;, David Friedlander &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">Subject: Re: [TR] [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket<br =
class=3D"">Message-ID: =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">I buy the cheaper gaskets and use Ultra Black RTV. They do =
NOT leak that way and the thick gasket allows for relatively easy =
removal (race EMG in a come apart a lot).<br class=3D"">Phil<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Sent from my iPhone<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&gt; On Jun 28, 2023, at 6:41 PM, Robert M Lang via NET =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br class=3D"">&gt; <br =
class=3D"">&gt; ?<br class=3D"">&gt; As a rule of thumb, I try to use =
the better brand gaskets when they are available. I cannot speak to TR3 =
gaskets, but I find that the cheaper gaskets sometimes need "fettling" =
to fit properly. I see this all the time with the manifold gaskets for =
TR6 and there have been times when there was no choice available - just =
available. I chose "available" so I could drive the car. The cheaper =
gasket ate 2 hours of my labor to fit. The stud holes were off by 1 / 8 =
inch, plus or minus. Ans one or two &nbsp;holes were not the correct =
diameter.<br class=3D"">&gt; <br class=3D"">&gt; That said, if you're =
like me, you buy the cheap one AND the expensive one and one winds up =
either as a spare or in the bin...<br class=3D"">&gt; <br class=3D"">&gt; =
Good luck!<br class=3D"">&gt; <br class=3D"">&gt; =
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-<br class=3D"">&gt; Bob Lang &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
<br class=3D"">&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Cell: 339-927-4489<br =
class=3D"">&gt; =
--------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-<br class=3D"">&gt; <br class=3D"">&gt; From: NET =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of David =
Friedlander via NET &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">&gt; =
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2023 3:22 PM<br class=3D"">&gt; To: TR3 =
Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; New England Triumphs =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">&gt; Subject: [NET] =
Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket<br class=3D"">&gt; &nbsp;<br =
class=3D"">&gt; Greetings everyone ~<br class=3D"">&gt; <br =
class=3D"">&gt; Opinion time:<br class=3D"">&gt; <br class=3D"">&gt; =
Subject: Oil pan gaskets.<br class=3D"">&gt; <br class=3D"">&gt; Without =
disparaging Moss, I note their 692-000 Payen gasket is $26.99 <br =
class=3D"">&gt; while their stock gasket (695-000) is just $4.99. Is the =
Payen gasket TR3<br class=3D"">&gt; that much better?? Worth the $$ =
difference?<br class=3D"">&gt; <br class=3D"">&gt; Dave<br class=3D"">&gt;=
 _______________________________________________<br class=3D"">&gt; NET =
mailing list<br class=3D"">&gt; [email-masked]<br =
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class=3D"">Message: 9<br class=3D"">Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 09:16:05 =
-0600<br class=3D"">From: Mark Bradakis &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">To: [email-masked]<br class=3D"">Subject: [TR] Fwd: =
[Fot] JK Jackson 1939 - 2023<br class=3D"">Message-ID: =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8; format=3Dflowed<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">-------- Forwarded Message --------<br class=3D"">Subject: =
[Fot] JK Jackson &nbsp; 1939 - 2023<br class=3D"">Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 =
06:53:44 -0400<br class=3D"">From: yellow04 via Fot =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">Reply-To: yellow04 =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">To: [email-masked]<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">The go-fast Triumph fraternity lost an =
important member last Sunday, JK <br class=3D"">Jackson had died.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">I was lucky enough to meet JK very early in my =
racing exploits, and he <br class=3D"">took pity on my attempts to field =
a TR4 that was in a pitiful state. His <br class=3D"">guidance some =
twenty years ago was key to my climbing the curve from <br =
class=3D"">neophyte to racer. He was always willing to offer advice, and =
if you <br class=3D"">followed his advice to the letter the outcome was =
usually positive. If <br class=3D"">it didn't turn out as expected, I =
know I screwed something up! It was JK <br class=3D"">who explained to =
me how to build a big chassis Triumph gearbox that goes <br class=3D"">the=
 distance, his techniques worked back then and I still use his <br =
class=3D"">formula on every gearbox I build.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">As I stand in front of my parts washer working the dirty =
parts, I still <br class=3D"">think is this clean, or is it JK =
clean...<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">RIP, my friend.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Henry Frye<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">------------------------------<br class=3D""><br =
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