Subject: Re: [TR] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket

From: bill beecher <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 22:02:58 -0500

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IIRC the Payen is a bit thicker, nice to be able to take up the inherent irr=
egularities of the oil pan.   Still, quite a bit higher than stock.=20
Bill B
TS30800L

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On Jun 28, 2023, at 6:35 PM, David Friedlander <[email-masked]> wrote:

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Greetings everyone ~

Opinion time:

Subject: Oil pan gaskets.

Without disparaging Moss, I note their 692-000 Payen gasket is $26.99=20
while their stock gasket (695-000) is just $4.99. Is the Payen gasket TR3
that much better?? Worth the $$ difference?

Dave
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">IIRC the Payen is a bit thicker, nice to be=
 able to take up the inherent irregularities of the oil pan. &nbsp; Still, q=
uite a bit higher than stock.&nbsp;<div>Bill B</div><div>TS30800L<br><br><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">=E2=80=9CShoot low sheriff, she=E2=80=99s riding a shetland=E2=
=80=9D =E2=80=A6B.Wills</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jun 28, 2023, at 6:35 P=
M, David Friedlander &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">Greetings e=
veryone ~</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans m=
s,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_de=
fault" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#=
000099">Opinion time:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family=
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s=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:=
large;color:#000099">Subject: Oil pan gaskets.<br><br>Without disparaging Mo=
ss, I note their 692-000 Payen gasket is $26.99&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"gma=
il_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;co=
lor:#000099">while their stock gasket (695-000) is just $4.99. Is the Payen g=
asket TR3</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans m=
s,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">that much better?? Worth the $$ d=
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From: Robert M Lang <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 22:40:13 +0000

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As a rule of thumb, I try to use the better brand gaskets when they are ava=
ilable. I cannot speak to TR3 gaskets, but I find that the cheaper gaskets =
sometimes need "fettling" to fit properly. I see this all the time with the=
 manifold gaskets for TR6 and there have been times when there was no choic=
e available - just available. I chose "available" so I could drive the car.=
 The cheaper gasket ate 2 hours of my labor to fit. The stud holes were off=
 by 1 / 8 inch, plus or minus. Ans one or two  holes were not the correct d=
iameter.

That said, if you're like me, you buy the cheap one AND the expensive one a=
nd one winds up either as a spare or in the bin...

Good luck!

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Subject: [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket

Greetings everyone ~

Opinion time:

Without disparaging Moss, I note their 692-000 Payen gasket is $26.99
while their stock gasket (695-000) is just $4.99. Is the Payen gasket TR3
that much better?? Worth the $$ difference?

Dave

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sometimes need &quot;fettling&quot; to fit properly. I see this all the tim=
e with the manifold gaskets for TR6 and there
 have been times when there was no choice available - just available. I cho=
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<b>Subject:</b> [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket</font>
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Subject: Oil pan gaskets.<br>
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Without disparaging Moss, I note their 692-000 Payen gasket is $26.99&nbsp;=
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that much better?? Worth the $$ difference?</div>
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From: Philip Gott <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 19:14:59 -0400

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I buy the cheaper gaskets and use Ultra Black RTV. They do NOT leak that way=
 and the thick gasket allows for relatively easy removal (race EMG in a come=
 apart a lot).
Phil

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 28, 2023, at 6:41 PM, Robert M Lang via NET <net@newenglandtriumphs=
.org> wrote:
>=20
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> As a rule of thumb, I try to use the better brand gaskets when they are av=
ailable. I cannot speak to TR3 gaskets, but I find that the cheaper gaskets s=
ometimes need "fettling" to fit properly. I see this all the time with the m=
anifold gaskets for TR6 and there have been times when there was no choice a=
vailable - just available. I chose "available" so I could drive the car. The=
 cheaper gasket ate 2 hours of my labor to fit. The stud holes were off by 1=
 / 8 inch, plus or minus. Ans one or two  holes were not the correct diamete=
r.
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> Good luck!
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I buy the cheaper gaskets and use Ultra Bla=
ck RTV. They do NOT leak that way and the thick gasket allows for relatively=
 easy removal (race EMG in a come apart a lot).<div>Phil<br><br><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
>On Jun 28, 2023, at 6:41 PM, Robert M Lang via NET &lt;net@newenglandtriump=
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ir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

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As a rule of thumb, I try to use the better brand gaskets when they are avai=
lable. I cannot speak to TR3 gaskets, but I find that the cheaper gaskets so=
metimes need "fettling" to fit properly. I see this all the time with the ma=
nifold gaskets for TR6 and there
 have been times when there was no choice available - just available. I chos=
e "available" so I could drive the car. The cheaper gasket ate 2 hours of my=
 labor to fit. The stud holes were off by 1 / 8 inch, plus or minus. Ans one=
 or two&nbsp; holes were not the correct
 diameter.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size:=
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<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size:=
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That said, if you're like me, you buy the cheap one AND the expensive one an=
d one winds up either as a spare or in the bin...</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size:=
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Greetings everyone ~</div>
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<br>
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Subject: Oil pan gaskets.<br>
<br>
Without disparaging Moss, I note their 692-000 Payen gasket is $26.99&nbsp;<=
/div>
<div class=3D"x_gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif=
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while their stock gasket (695-000) is just $4.99. Is the Payen gasket TR3</d=
iv>
<div class=3D"x_gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif=
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that much better?? Worth the $$ difference?</div>
<div class=3D"x_gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif=
; font-size:large; color:#000099">
<br>
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From: Frank Fisher <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 18:14:51 +0000 (UTC)

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 i have seen a couple of gaskets recently where one was cork about 1/16" th=
ick the other being not much more than writing paper.i dont recall if it wa=
s my pan gasket.maybe thats the difference in these parts.

    On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 09:35:43 AM PDT, Robert M Lang <[email-masked]=
du> wrote: =20
=20
 As a rule of thumb, I try to use the better brand gaskets when they are av=
ailable. I cannot speak to TR3 gaskets, but I find that the cheaper gaskets=
 sometimes need "fettling" to fit properly. I see this all the time with th=
e manifold gaskets for TR6 and there have been times when there was no choi=
ce available - just available. I chose "available" so I could drive the car=
. The cheaper gasket ate 2 hours of my labor to fit. The stud holes were of=
f by 1 / 8 inch, plus or minus. Ans one or two=C2=A0 holes were not the cor=
rect diameter.
That said, if you're like me, you buy the cheap one AND the expensive one a=
nd one winds up either as a spare or in the bin...
Good luck!

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Subject: [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket=C2=A0Greetings everyone ~

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at much better?? Worth the $$ difference?
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As a rule of thumb, I try to use the better brand gaskets when they are available. I cannot speak to TR3 gaskets, but I find that the cheaper gaskets sometimes need "fettling" to fit properly. I see this all the time with the manifold gaskets for TR6 and there
 have been times when there was no choice available - just available. I chose "available" so I could drive the car. The cheaper gasket ate 2 hours of my labor to fit. The stud holes were off by 1 / 8 inch, plus or minus. Ans one or two&nbsp; holes were not the correct
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That said, if you're like me, you buy the cheap one AND the expensive one and one winds up either as a spare or in the bin...</div>
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Greetings everyone ~</div>
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Without disparaging Moss, I note their 692-000 Payen gasket is $26.99&nbsp;</div>
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while their stock gasket (695-000) is just $4.99. Is the Payen gasket TR3</div>
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I am curious why Gasket Innovations is not in this discussion?  

A.R.E. Joe Alexander and the Alexander Racing Enterprises team have a wide range of silicone
reusable gaskets for many Triumphs, and IIRC, they were working on oil pan gaskets some time back.

Send them a note or call  https://gasketinnovations.com/contacts/

Glenn Merrell, CAP

StagByTriumph Garage

aka Stag-By-Triumph Garage (on FaceBook)

Remember, "the BEST trophies are: Miles on the Odometer; Stone chips in the paint; and DEAD BUGS on
the windscreen . with the occasional smell of manure!"

From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Robert M Lang
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2023 4:40 PM
To: TR3 Triumphs <[email-masked]>; New England Triumphs <[email-masked]>; David
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Subject: Re: [TR] [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket

As a rule of thumb, I try to use the better brand gaskets when they are available. I cannot speak to
TR3 gaskets, but I find that the cheaper gaskets sometimes need "fettling" to fit properly. I see
this all the time with the manifold gaskets for TR6 and there have been times when there was no
choice available - just available. I chose "available" so I could drive the car. The cheaper gasket
ate 2 hours of my labor to fit. The stud holes were off by 1 / 8 inch, plus or minus. Ans one or two
holes were not the correct diameter.

That said, if you're like me, you buy the cheap one AND the expensive one and one winds up either as
a spare or in the bin...

Good luck!

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>I am curious why Gasket =
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class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>A.R.E. Joe =
Alexander and the Alexander Racing Enterprises team have a wide range of =
silicone reusable gaskets for many Triumphs, and IIRC, they were working =
on oil pan gaskets some time back.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Send them a =
note or call&nbsp; =
https://gasketinnovations.com/contacts/<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Glenn Merrell, CAP<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>StagByTriumph =
Garage<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>aka Stag-By-Triumph Garage (<i>on =
FaceBook</i>)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Remember, &#8220;the BEST trophies are: Miles on =
the Odometer; Stone chips in the paint; and DEAD BUGS on the windscreen =
&#8230; with the occasional smell of =
manure!&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert M =
Lang<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 28, 2023 4:40 PM<br><b>To:</b> TR3 =
Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; New England Triumphs =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;; David Friedlander =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] [NET] Payen vs. =
Standard Oil Pan Gasket<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>As a rule of thumb, I try to use =
the better brand gaskets when they are available. I cannot speak to TR3 =
gaskets, but I find that the cheaper gaskets sometimes need =
&quot;fettling&quot; to fit properly. I see this all the time with the =
manifold gaskets for TR6 and there have been times when there was no =
choice available - just available. I chose &quot;available&quot; so I =
could drive the car. The cheaper gasket ate 2 hours of my labor to fit. =
The stud holes were off by 1 / 8 inch, plus or minus. Ans one or =
two&nbsp; holes were not the correct =
diameter.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>That said, if you're like me, you =
buy the cheap one AND the expensive one and one winds up either as a =
spare or in the bin...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div>=
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triumphs.org</a>&gt; on behalf of David Friedlander via NET &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt;<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 28, 2023 3:22 PM<br><b>To:</b> TR3 =
Triumphs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; =
New England Triumphs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [NET] Payen vs. Standard Oil Pan Gasket</span> =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#000099'>Greetings everyone =
~<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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MS";color:#000099'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#000099'>Opinion time:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#000099'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#000099'>Subject: Oil pan gaskets.<br><br>Without =
disparaging Moss, I note their 692-000 Payen gasket is =
$26.99&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#000099'>while their stock gasket (695-000) is just $4.99. Is =
the Payen gasket TR3<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#000099'>that much better?? Worth the $$ =
difference?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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MS";color:#000099'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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