Subject: Re: [TR] Worth of a 1965-1966 TR4A

From: <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 15:00:10 -0600

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Arnold,

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$3500 these days as a basket case =E2=80=9CTR=E2=80=9D with all its =
=E2=80=9Crestorable=E2=80=9D parts.  Other models may be different.

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Initial feeling is that you have been offered a =E2=80=9Cforced sale =
value=E2=80=9D which is about a third or less of its retail value, only =
based upon your short list.

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Overall condition of the interior and exterior, running / driving are =
all considerations.  So if it has a good paintjob, good interior, no =
rust, it runs and drives, you may be fairly confident you have at least =
$10k of real price.=20

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That said, there are a lot of factors you need to consider in that =
potential sale, like you want to see it go to someone who will use it, =
enjoy it, restore it.

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You might consider an evaluation tool such as is on the Hagerty =
Insurance web site to get a better feel for what your car might be worth =
based upon its overall condition, just read the various condition =
descriptions and answer the questions and you will get a more accurate =
of your cars value range based upon the current markets.

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Glenn aka StagByTriumph Garage

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From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of ARNOLD =
Gilmour
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 11:20 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [TR] Worth of a 1965-1966 TR4A

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I know that a car is only "worth" what someone is willing to pay for it. =
 That said I have been offered $3500.00  Garaged, minimal body rust. =
Engine turns over. Needs a tune up. Many  new parts, and original parts =
to return to non-modified, improved, running condition.  Panasports, =
improved wiring,  starter,voltage regulator, fuel pump, distributor etc, =
etc.  I am not greedy but I don't want to cheat myself.New top =
installed. I have had the car since 1980 but circumstances beyond my =
control cause this sale. Many extra body, engine and gear box parts. =
Thanks all, Arnold Gilmour avid digest recipient.

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Arnold,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>$3500 these =
days as a basket case =E2=80=9CTR=E2=80=9D with all its =
=E2=80=9Crestorable=E2=80=9D parts.=C2=A0 Other models may be =
different.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Initial feeling is that you have been offered a =
=E2=80=9Cforced sale value=E2=80=9D which is about a third or less of =
its retail value, only based upon your short list.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Overall =
condition of the interior and exterior, running / driving are all =
considerations.=C2=A0 So if it has a good paintjob, good interior, no =
rust, it runs and drives, you may be fairly confident you have at least =
$10k of real price. <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>That said, =
there are a lot of factors you need to consider in that potential sale, =
like you want to see it go to someone who will use it, enjoy it, restore =
it.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>You might consider an evaluation tool such as is on =
the Hagerty Insurance web site to get a better feel for what your car =
might be worth based upon its overall condition, just read the various =
condition descriptions and answer the questions and you will get a more =
accurate of your cars value range based upon the current =
markets.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Glenn aka StagByTriumph Garage<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>ARNOLD =
Gilmour<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 21, 2023 11:20 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> [TR] Worth of a 1965-1966 =
TR4A<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I know =
that a car is only &quot;worth&quot; what someone is willing to pay for =
it.&nbsp; That said I have been offered $3500.00&nbsp; Garaged, minimal =
body rust. Engine turns over. Needs a tune up. Many&nbsp; new parts, and =
original parts to return to non-modified, improved, running =
condition.&nbsp; Panasports, improved wiring,&nbsp; starter,voltage =
regulator, fuel pump, distributor etc, etc.&nbsp; I am not greedy but I =
don't want to cheat myself.New top installed. I have had the car since =
1980 but circumstances beyond my control cause this sale. Many extra =
body, engine and gear box parts. Thanks all, Arnold Gilmour avid digest =
recipient.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div></body></html>
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From: Frank Fisher <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 22:09:06 +0000 (UTC)

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 Arnold.can the buyer get in the car and test drive it?can he drive it home=
 if he buys it?when he puts his foot on the brake will it stop properly?
are you saying=C2=A0Panasports, improved wiring,=C2=A0 starter,voltage regu=
lator, fuel pump, distributor are all new parts?or are you saying it needs =
new parts.
then we get to the paint. is it in any way shinny? would a wash and buff ma=
ke it look presentable?
the interior, comfy, no rips. no holes in carpet?

if these are all positive i would agree with Glenn that you should get arou=
nd 10,000.00
Frank

    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 02:31:32 PM PDT, stagbytriumph@triumphsta=
gclub.org <[email-masked]> wrote: =20
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Arnold,

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$3500 these days as a basket case =E2=80=9CTR=E2=80=9D with all its =E2=80=
=9Crestorable=E2=80=9D parts.=C2=A0 Other models may be different.

 =C2=A0

Initial feeling is that you have been offered a =E2=80=9Cforced sale value=
=E2=80=9D which is about a third or less of its retail value, only based up=
on your short list.

 =C2=A0

Overall condition of the interior and exterior, running / driving are all c=
onsiderations.=C2=A0 So if it has a good paintjob, good interior, no rust, =
it runs and drives, you may be fairly confident you have at least $10k of r=
eal price.=20

 =C2=A0

That said, there are a lot of factors you need to consider in that potentia=
l sale, like you want to see it go to someone who will use it, enjoy it, re=
store it.

 =C2=A0

You might consider an evaluation tool such as is on the Hagerty Insurance w=
eb site to get a better feel for what your car might be worth based upon it=
s overall condition, just read the various condition descriptions and answe=
r the questions and you will get a more accurate of your cars value range b=
ased upon the current markets.

 =C2=A0

 =C2=A0

From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of ARNOLD Gilmou=
r
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 11:20 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [TR] Worth of a 1965-1966 TR4A

 =C2=A0

I know that a car is only "worth" what someone is willing to pay for it.=C2=
=A0 That said I have been offered $3500.00=C2=A0 Garaged, minimal body rust=
. Engine turns over. Needs a tune up. Many=C2=A0 new parts, and original pa=
rts to return to non-modified, improved, running condition.=C2=A0 Panasport=
s, improved wiring,=C2=A0 starter,voltage regulator, fuel pump, distributor=
 etc, etc.=C2=A0 I am not greedy but I don't want to cheat myself.New top i=
nstalled. I have had the car since 1980 but circumstances beyond my control=
 cause this sale. Many extra body, engine and gear box parts. Thanks all, A=
rnold Gilmour avid digest recipient.

 =C2=A0

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs=C2=A0 http://www.team.net/a=
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lvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">can the buyer get in the car =
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ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica,=
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=3D"color: rgb(38, 40, 42); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, =
sans-serif;">Panasports, improved wiring,&nbsp; starter,voltage regulator, =
fuel pump, distributor are all new parts?</span></span></div><div dir=3D"lt=
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>then we get to the paint. is it in any way shinny? would a wash and buff m=
ake it look presentable?</font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"=
 style=3D""><font color=3D"#26282a"><br></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-=
setdir=3D"false" style=3D""><font color=3D"#26282a">the interior, comfy, no=
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e" style=3D""><font color=3D"#26282a"><br></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr" dat=
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ese are all positive i would agree with Glenn that you should get around 10=
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                    On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 02:31:32 PM PDT, stagbytr=
[email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydp2c0f44a5yiv9806907856"><div><div class=
=3D"ydp2c0f44a5yiv9806907856WordSection1"><p class=3D"ydp2c0f44a5yiv9806907=
856MsoNormal">Arnold,</p><p class=3D"ydp2c0f44a5yiv9806907856MsoNormal"> &n=
bsp;</p><p class=3D"ydp2c0f44a5yiv9806907856MsoNormal">$3500 these days as =
a basket case =E2=80=9CTR=E2=80=9D with all its =E2=80=9Crestorable=E2=80=
=9D parts.&nbsp; Other models may be different.</p><p class=3D"ydp2c0f44a5y=
iv9806907856MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydp2c0f44a5yiv9806907856MsoNo=
rmal">Initial feeling is that you have been offered a =E2=80=9Cforced sale =
value=E2=80=9D which is about a third or less of its retail value, only bas=
ed upon your short list.</p><p class=3D"ydp2c0f44a5yiv9806907856MsoNormal">=
 &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydp2c0f44a5yiv9806907856MsoNormal">Overall condition=
 of the interior and exterior, running / driving are all considerations.&nb=
sp; So if it has a good paintjob, good interior, no rust, it runs and drive=
s, you may be fairly confident you have at least $10k of real price. </p><p=
 class=3D"ydp2c0f44a5yiv9806907856MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydp2c0f=
44a5yiv9806907856MsoNormal">That said, there are a lot of factors you need =
to consider in that potential sale, like you want to see it go to someone w=
ho will use it, enjoy it, restore it.</p><p class=3D"ydp2c0f44a5yiv98069078=
56MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydp2c0f44a5yiv9806907856MsoNormal">You =
might consider an evaluation tool such as is on the Hagerty Insurance web s=
ite to get a better feel for what your car might be worth based upon its ov=
erall condition, just read the various condition descriptions and answer th=
e questions and you will get a more accurate of your cars value range based=
 upon the current markets.</p><p class=3D"ydp2c0f44a5yiv9806907856MsoNormal=
"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydp2c0f44a5yiv9806907856MsoNormal">Glenn aka StagB=
yTriumph Garage</p><p class=3D"ydp2c0f44a5yiv9806907856MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</=
p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0=
pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class=3D"ydp2c0f44a5yiv9806907856MsoNormal"><b>From:</b=
> Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>ARNO=
LD Gilmour<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 21, 2023 11:20 AM<br><b>To:</b> t=
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> [TR] Worth of a 1965-1966 TR4A</p=
></div></div><p class=3D"ydp2c0f44a5yiv9806907856MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><div=
><p class=3D"ydp2c0f44a5yiv9806907856MsoNormal">I know that a car is only "=
worth" what someone is willing to pay for it.&nbsp; That said I have been o=
ffered $3500.00&nbsp; Garaged, minimal body rust. Engine turns over. Needs =
a tune up. Many&nbsp; new parts, and original parts to return to non-modifi=
ed, improved, running condition.&nbsp; Panasports, improved wiring,&nbsp; s=
tarter,voltage regulator, fuel pump, distributor etc, etc.&nbsp; I am not g=
reedy but I don't want to cheat myself.New top installed. I have had the ca=
r since 1980 but circumstances beyond my control cause this sale. Many extr=
a body, engine and gear box parts. Thanks all, Arnold Gilmour avid digest r=
ecipient.</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp2c0f44a5yiv9806907856MsoNormal"> &nb=
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