Subject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front wheel bearing?

From: Philip Ethier <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2023 17:48:40 -0600

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Don't mess with wheel bearings.  Get it checked out.  I lost a wheel on my
TR4 on the way home from the VTR in 2005.

On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 5:35=E2=80=AFPM Sujit Roy <[email-masked]> w=
rote:

> I have a Stag and have checked and changed various components like bottom
> ball joint and top shock mount, but am still experiencing a vibration,
> through the steering wheel,  from the left front wheel only when I'm
> turning left. The car had been fitted with all new poly bushes.
> There is no vibration going straight or when turning right.
> I plan to swap the wheel with my spare,  but can a bad bearing cause thes=
e
> symptoms?
> The hub rotates smoothly and there is no noise.
>
> The TR6 uses a similar vertical link setup as the Stag. The hub
> bearings are tapered.
>
>
> Sujit
>
> --
> Sujit Roy
> Cupertino, California
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Don&#39;t mess with=C2=A0wheel bearings.=
=C2=A0 Get it checked out.=C2=A0 I lost a wheel on my TR4 on the way home f=
rom the VTR in 2005.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" c=
lass=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 5:35=E2=80=AFPM Sujit Roy &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.=
8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"lt=
r">I have a Stag and have checked and changed various components like botto=
m ball joint and top shock mount, but am still experiencing a vibration, th=
rough the steering=C2=A0wheel,=C2=A0 from the left front wheel only when I&=
#39;m turning left. The car had been fitted with all new poly bushes.<div>T=
here is no vibration going straight or when turning right.=C2=A0</div><div>=
I plan to swap the wheel with my spare,=C2=A0 but can a bad bearing cause t=
hese symptoms?</div><div>The hub rotates smoothly and there is no noise.</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>The TR6 uses a similar vertical link setup as the St=
ag. The hub bearings=C2=A0are tapered.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><=
div>Sujit=C2=A0<br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><div>Sujit Roy<br>Cupertino, California</div><div><br><a href=
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From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2023 18:21:03 -0600

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And I lost a front wheel on my TR3B at 70 mph on I-70 in 2014.  I've not
quite gotten over that episode yet,  Yes, don't fool around with wheel
bearings!

The root cause of my wheel-fell-off episode was a restorer who was more
used to MG bearing preloads than a TR3's non-preloaded bearings.  He read
this part of the Red Book service instructions as 101 lb=C2=B7ft, not 10 lb=
=C2=B7ft.
Yikes.
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/O/i-7mHq3MK.png
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8zPPqt3/0/1e459484/XL/i-8zPPqt3-XL.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wBTPGjg/0/5123f2e5/X3/i-wBTPGjg-X3.jpg

This happened in western Ohio, not too far from Macy's Garage as it turned
out.  And although Mark and Co. didn't do the work that led to the wheel
coming off, they know my car and were able to take it into their shop that
afternoon while I flew home.

So listen to the voice of two of us with scary experiences.  Take care with
wheel bearings.

On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 6:01 PM Philip Ethier <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Don't mess with wheel bearings.  Get it checked out.  I lost a wheel on m=
y
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 5:35=E2=80=AFPM Sujit Roy <[email-masked]>=
 wrote:
>
>> I have a Stag and have checked and changed various components like botto=
m
>> I plan to swap the wheel with my spare,  but can a bad bearing cause
>> these symptoms?
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">And=
 I lost a front wheel on my TR3B at 70 mph on I-70 in 2014.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve =
not quite gotten over that episode yet,=C2=A0 Yes, don&#39;t fool around wi=
th wheel bearings!</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:sma=
ll"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">The ro=
ot cause of my wheel-fell-off episode was a restorer who was more used to M=
G bearing preloads than a TR3&#39;s non-preloaded bearings.=C2=A0 He read t=
his part of the Red Book service instructions as 101 lb=C2=B7ft, not 10 lb=
=C2=B7ft.=C2=A0 Yikes.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size=
:small"><a href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/O=
/i-7mHq3MK.png">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/O/i-=
7mHq3MK.png</a><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:sm=
all"><a href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8zPPqt3/0/1e459484/XL/i=
-8zPPqt3-XL.jpg">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8zPPqt3/0/1e459484/XL/=
i-8zPPqt3-XL.jpg</a><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-si=
ze:small"><a href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wBTPGjg/0/5123f2e5=
/X3/i-wBTPGjg-X3.jpg">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wBTPGjg/0/5123f2e=
5/X3/i-wBTPGjg-X3.jpg</a><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fo=
nt-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:sm=
all">This happened in western Ohio, not too far from Macy&#39;s Garage as i=
t turned out.=C2=A0 And although Mark and Co. didn&#39;t do the work that l=
ed to the wheel coming off, they know my car and were able to take it into =
their shop that afternoon while I flew home.</div><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-size:small">So listen to the voice of two of us with scary experie=
nces.=C2=A0 Take care with wheel bearings.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 6:0=
1 PM Philip Ethier &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">pethier7@gmail=
.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1=
ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Don&#39;t mess with=C2=A0wheel bearin=
gs.=C2=A0 Get it checked out.=C2=A0 I lost a wheel on my TR4 on the way hom=
e from the VTR in 2005.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr=
" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 5:35=E2=80=AFPM Sujit Roy &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">triumphstag@gm=
ail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-lef=
t:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I have a Stag and have checked and changed various =
components like bottom ball joint and top shock mount, but am still experie=
ncing a vibration, through the steering=C2=A0wheel,=C2=A0 from the left fro=
nt wheel only when I&#39;m turning left. The car had been fitted with all n=
ew poly bushes.<div>There is no vibration going straight or when turning ri=
ght.=C2=A0</div><div>I plan to swap the wheel with my spare,=C2=A0 but can =
a bad bearing cause these symptoms?</div><div>The hub rotates smoothly and =
there is no noise.</div><div><br></div><div>The TR6 uses a similar vertical=
 link setup as the Stag. The hub bearings=C2=A0are tapered.</div><div><br><=
/div><div><br></div><div>Sujit=C2=A0<br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Sujit Roy<br>Cupertino, California<=
/div><div><br><a href=3D"https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/" target=3D"=
_blank">https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/</a><br><br></div></div></div=
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background-color:rgb(239,239,239)">Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minneso=
ta USA</span><br></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:ver=
dana,geneva,lucida,&quot;lucida grande&quot;,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;bac=
kground-color:rgb(239,239,239)">1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW &quot;uncle ja=
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2023 20:18:09 -0500

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Wow! That definitely is a car with a broken leg! I=E2=80=99ve never done =
any work on an MG but I=E2=80=99ve never heard of a pre-load of 101 =
ft.-lbs. for front wheel bearings. All of our farm tractors, about 10, =
from a Farmall H to a Deere 4250, use the common specification of =
=E2=80=9Chand tighten to a slight drag, and then back off to the nearest =
castellation=E2=80=9D. That=E2=80=99s what I have done on all of our =
cars and trucks over the years and it seems to work.

=20

Can someone explain the 101 ft.-lb. spec or is that just a misprint?

=20

Alex Thomson

=20

From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Don =
Hiscock
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2023 7:21 PM
To: Philip Ethier
Cc: Triumphs
Subject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front =
wheel bearing?

=20

And I lost a front wheel on my TR3B at 70 mph on I-70 in 2014.  I've not =
quite gotten over that episode yet,  Yes, don't fool around with wheel =
bearings!

=20

The root cause of my wheel-fell-off episode was a restorer who was more =
used to MG bearing preloads than a TR3's non-preloaded bearings.  He =
read this part of the Red Book service instructions as 101 lb=C2=B7ft, =
not 10 lb=C2=B7ft.  Yikes.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8zPPqt3/0/1e459484/XL/i-8zPPqt3-XL.jp=
g

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wBTPGjg/0/5123f2e5/X3/i-wBTPGjg-X3.jp=
g

=20

This happened in western Ohio, not too far from Macy's Garage as it =
turned out.  And although Mark and Co. didn't do the work that led to =
the wheel coming off, they know my car and were able to take it into =
their shop that afternoon while I flew home.

=20

So listen to the voice of two of us with scary experiences.  Take care =
with wheel bearings.

=20

On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 6:01 PM Philip Ethier <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

Don't mess with wheel bearings.  Get it checked out.  I lost a wheel on =
my TR4 on the way home from the VTR in 2005.

=20

On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 5:35=E2=80=AFPM Sujit Roy =
<[email-masked]> wrote:

I have a Stag and have checked and changed various components like =
bottom ball joint and top shock mount, but am still experiencing a =
vibration, through the steering wheel,  from the left front wheel only =
when I'm turning left. The car had been fitted with all new poly bushes.

There is no vibration going straight or when turning right.=20

I plan to swap the wheel with my spare,  but can a bad bearing cause =
these symptoms?

=20

The TR6 uses a similar vertical link setup as the Stag. The hub bearings =
are tapered.

=20

=20

Sujit=20

=20

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Cupertino, California

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Wow! That =
definitely is a car with a broken leg! I=E2=80=99ve never done any work =
on an MG but I=E2=80=99ve never heard of a pre-load of 101 ft.-lbs. for =
front wheel bearings. All of our farm tractors, about 10, from a Farmall =
H to a Deere 4250, use the common specification of =E2=80=9Chand tighten =
to a slight drag, and then back off to the nearest =
castellation=E2=80=9D. That=E2=80=99s what I have done on all of our =
cars and trucks over the years and it seems to =
work.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Can someone =
explain the 101 ft.-lb. spec or is that just a =
misprint?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Alex =
Thomson<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Don Hiscock<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 27, 2023 7:21 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Philip Ethier<br><b>Cc:</b> Triumphs<br><b>Subject:</b> =
Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front wheel =
bearing?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>And I lost a front wheel on my TR3B at 70 mph on I-70 =
in 2014.&nbsp; I've not quite gotten over that episode yet,&nbsp; Yes, =
don't fool around with wheel bearings!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The root cause of my wheel-fell-off episode was a =
restorer who was more used to MG bearing preloads than a TR3's =
non-preloaded bearings.&nbsp; He read this part of the Red Book service =
instructions as 101 lb=C2=B7ft, not 10 lb=C2=B7ft.&nbsp; =
Yikes.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/O/i-7mHq3M=
K.png">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/O/i-7mHq3MK=
.png</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8zPPqt3/0/1e459484/XL/i-8zPPq=
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class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>This happened in western Ohio, not too far from Macy's =
Garage as it turned out.&nbsp; And although Mark and Co. didn't do the =
work that led to the wheel coming off, they know my car and were able to =
take it into their shop that afternoon while I flew =
home.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>So listen to the voice of two of us with scary =
experiences.&nbsp; Take care with wheel =
bearings.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 6:01 PM Philip Ethier &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Don't mess with&nbsp;wheel bearings.&nbsp; Get it =
checked out.&nbsp; I lost a wheel on my TR4 on the way home from the VTR =
in 2005.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 5:35=E2=80=AFPM Sujit Roy &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
have a Stag and have checked and changed various components like bottom =
ball joint and top shock mount, but am still experiencing a vibration, =
through the steering&nbsp;wheel,&nbsp; from the left front wheel only =
when I'm turning left. The car had been fitted with all new poly =
bushes.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>There is no vibration =
going straight or when turning right.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I plan to swap the wheel with my spare,&nbsp; but can =
a bad bearing cause these symptoms?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The hub rotates smoothly and there is no =
noise.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The TR6 uses a similar vertical link setup as the =
Stag. The hub bearings&nbsp;are tapered.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Sujit&nbsp;<br clear=3Dall><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal>-- =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sujit =
Roy<br>Cupertino, California<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><a =
href=3D"https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/</a><o:p></o:p></=
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class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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ackground:#EFEFEF'>Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota =
USA</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black;background:#EFEFE=
F'>1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW &quot;uncle jack&quot;, Sapphire =
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It's not a misprint, unless the missing space between the zero and the ell
count.  It's mainly dyslexic or too-fast reading, or perhaps being more
familiar with ft-lb convention than lb-ft that led him to see 101.

> Wow! That definitely is a car with a broken leg! I=E2=80=99ve never done =
any work
> on an MG but I=E2=80=99ve never heard of a pre-load of 101 ft.-lbs. for f=
ront wheel
> bearings. All of our farm tractors, about 10, from a Farmall H to a Deere
> 4250, use the common specification of =E2=80=9Chand tighten to a slight d=
rag, and
> then back off to the nearest castellation=E2=80=9D. That=E2=80=99s what I=
 have done on all
> of our cars and trucks over the years and it seems to work.
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of *=
Don
> Hiscock
> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2023 7:21 PM
> *To:* Philip Ethier
> *Cc:* Triumphs
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front
> wheel bearing?
>
>
>
> this part of the Red Book service instructions as 101 lb=C2=B7ft, not 10 =
lb=C2=B7ft.
g
g
>
>
>
> This happened in western Ohio, not too far from Macy's Garage as it turne=
d
> coming off, they know my car and were able to take it into their shop tha=
t
> So listen to the voice of two of us with scary experiences.  Take care
> with wheel bearings.
>
>
>
y
e
> The TR6 uses a similar vertical link setup as the Stag. The hub

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">It&=
#39;s not a misprint, unless the missing space between the zero and the ell=
 count.=C2=A0 It&#39;s mainly dyslexic or too-fast reading, or perhaps bein=
g more familiar with ft-lb convention than lb-ft that led him to see 101.</=
div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_at=
tr">On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 7:18 PM Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>=
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;b=
order-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"msg20=
70731444121065553"><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div class=3D"m_2070731444121065553W=
ordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Wow! That definitely is a car with=
 a broken leg! I=E2=80=99ve never done any work on an MG but I=E2=80=99ve n=
ever heard of a pre-load of 101 ft.-lbs. for front wheel bearings. All of o=
ur farm tractors, about 10, from a Farmall H to a Deere 4250, use the commo=
n specification of =E2=80=9Chand tighten to a slight drag, and then back of=
f to the nearest castellation=E2=80=9D. That=E2=80=99s what I have done on =
all of our cars and trucks over the years and it seems to work.<u></u><u></=
u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Can someone explain the 101 ft.-lb. spec or is tha=
t just a misprint?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-family:Calibri,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u><=
/u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-famil=
y:Calibri,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Alex Thomson<u></u><=
u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font=
-family:Tahoma,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Triumphs [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
eam.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Don Hiscock<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, Februa=
ry 27, 2023 7:21 PM<br><b>To:</b> Philip Ethier<br><b>Cc:</b> Triumphs<br><=
b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Is this symptom I&#39;m getting indicative of a bad=
 front wheel bearing?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u=
>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">And I lost a front wheel=
 on my TR3B at 70 mph on I-70 in 2014.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve not quite gotten over=
 that episode yet,=C2=A0 Yes, don&#39;t fool around with wheel bearings!<u>=
</u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The root cause of my wheel-fell-off episode=
 was a restorer who was more used to MG bearing preloads than a TR3&#39;s n=
on-preloaded bearings.=C2=A0 He read this part of the Red Book service inst=
ructions as 101 lb=C2=B7ft, not 10 lb=C2=B7ft.=C2=A0 Yikes.<u></u><u></u></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/p=
hotos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/O/i-7mHq3MK.png" target=3D"_blank">https://photo=
s.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/O/i-7mHq3MK.png</a><u></u><u></u>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com=
/photos/i-8zPPqt3/0/1e459484/XL/i-8zPPqt3-XL.jpg" target=3D"_blank">https:/=
/photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8zPPqt3/0/1e459484/XL/i-8zPPqt3-XL.jpg</a><u><=
/u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://photos.s=
mugmug.com/photos/i-wBTPGjg/0/5123f2e5/X3/i-wBTPGjg-X3.jpg" target=3D"_blan=
k">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wBTPGjg/0/5123f2e5/X3/i-wBTPGjg-X3.j=
pg</a><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u><=
/u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">This happened in western Ohio, not=
 too far from Macy&#39;s Garage as it turned out.=C2=A0 And although Mark a=
nd Co. didn&#39;t do the work that led to the wheel coming off, they know m=
y car and were able to take it into their shop that afternoon while I flew =
home.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></=
u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">So listen to the voice of two of us=
 with scary experiences.=C2=A0 Take care with wheel bearings.<u></u><u></u>=
</p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 6:01 PM Philip Ethier &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;bord=
er-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);pad=
ding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">Don&#39;t mess with=C2=A0wheel bearings.=C2=A0 Get it checke=
d out.=C2=A0 I lost a wheel on my TR4 on the way home from the VTR in 2005.=
<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div=
><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 5:35=E2=80=AFPM Sujit =
Roy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">triumphs=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"bo=
rder-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have a Stag and have checked and changed vari=
ous components like bottom ball joint and top shock mount, but am still exp=
eriencing a vibration, through the steering=C2=A0wheel,=C2=A0 from the left=
 front wheel only when I&#39;m turning left. The car had been fitted with a=
ll new poly bushes.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">There is n=
o vibration going straight or when turning right.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I plan to swap the wheel with my spare,=C2=
=A0 but can a bad bearing cause these symptoms?<u></u><u></u></p></div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The hub rotates smoothly and there is no noise.<u><=
/u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The TR6 uses a similar vertical link setup a=
s the Stag. The hub bearings=C2=A0are tapered.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sujit=C2=A0=
<br clear=3D"all"><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">-- <u></u><u></u></p><div><div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sujit Roy<br>Cupertino, California<u></u><u></u>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><br><a h=
ref=3D"https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/" target=3D"_blank">https://tr=
iumphstagblog.wordpress.com/</a><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div><=
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MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Verdana,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:=
black;background:rgb(239,239,239)">1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW &quot;uncle=
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MGs (B's anyway) have a spacer between the bearings on the stub axle. So 
yes, you crank them down

ptegler

On 2/27/2023 8:28 PM, Don Hiscock wrote:
> It's not a misprint, unless the missing space between the zero and the 
> ell count.  It's mainly dyslexic or too-fast reading, or perhaps being 
> more familiar with ft-lb convention than lb-ft that led him to see 101.
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 7:18 PM Alex & Janet Thomson 
> <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>     Wow! That definitely is a car with a broken leg! I’ve never done
>     any work on an MG but I’ve never heard of a pre-load of 101
>     ft.-lbs. for front wheel bearings. All of our farm tractors, about
>     10, from a Farmall H to a Deere 4250, use the common specification
>     of “hand tighten to a slight drag, and then back off to the
>     nearest castellation”. That’s what I have done on all of our cars
>     and trucks over the years and it seems to work.
>
>     *From:*Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] *On
>     Behalf Of *Don Hiscock
>     *Subject:* Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a
>     bad front wheel bearing?
>
>     And I lost a front wheel on my TR3B at 70 mph on I-70 in 2014. 
>     I've not quite gotten over that episode yet,  Yes, don't fool
>     around with wheel bearings!
>
>     The root cause of my wheel-fell-off episode was a restorer who was
>     more used to MG bearing preloads than a TR3's non-preloaded
>     bearings.  He read this part of the Red Book service instructions
>     as 101 lb·ft, not 10 lb·ft.  Yikes.
>
>     This happened in western Ohio, not too far from Macy's Garage as
>     it turned out. And although Mark and Co. didn't do the work that
>     led to the wheel coming off, they know my car and were able to
>     take it into their shop that afternoon while I flew home.
>
>     So listen to the voice of two of us with scary experiences.  Take
>     care with wheel bearings.
>
>         Don't mess with wheel bearings.  Get it checked out.  I lost a
>         wheel on my TR4 on the way home from the VTR in 2005.
>
>         On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 5:35 PM Sujit Roy
>             I have a Stag and have checked and changed various
>             components like bottom ball joint and top shock mount, but
>             am still experiencing a vibration, through the
>             steering wheel, from the left front wheel only when I'm
>             I plan to swap the wheel with my spare,  but can a bad
>             bearing cause these symptoms?
>
>             The TR6 uses a similar vertical link setup as the Stag.
>             The hub bearings are tapered.
>
>             Sujit
>
>             -- 
>
>             Sujit Roy
>             Cupertino, California
>
>
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    <p>MGs (B's anyway) have a spacer between the bearings on the stub
      axle. So yes, you crank them down</p>
    <p>ptegler<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/27/2023 8:28 PM, Don Hiscock
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">It's not a
          misprint, unless the missing space between the zero and the
          ell count.  It's mainly dyslexic or too-fast reading, or
          perhaps being more familiar with ft-lb convention than lb-ft
          that led him to see 101.</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 7:18
          PM Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a
            href="mailto:[email-masked]" moz-do-not-send="true"
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                    style="font-family:Calibri,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Wow!
                    That definitely is a car with a broken leg! I’ve
                    never done any work on an MG but I’ve never heard of
                    a pre-load of 101 ft.-lbs. for front wheel bearings.
                    All of our farm tractors, about 10, from a Farmall H
                    to a Deere 4250, use the common specification of
                    “hand tighten to a slight drag, and then back off to
                    the nearest castellation”. That’s what I have done
                    on all of our cars and trucks over the years and it
                    seems to work.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                    style="font-family:Calibri,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                    style="font-family:Calibri,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Can
                    someone explain the 101 ft.-lb. spec or is that just
                    a misprint?</span></p>
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                    style="font-family:Calibri,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                    style="font-family:Calibri,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Alex
                    Thomson</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                    style="font-family:Calibri,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                      style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
                    Triumphs [mailto:<a
                      href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>]
                    <b>On Behalf Of </b>Don Hiscock<br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 27, 2023 7:21 PM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> Philip Ethier<br>
                    <b>Cc:</b> Triumphs<br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting
                    indicative of a bad front wheel bearing?</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">And I lost a front wheel on my
                      TR3B at 70 mph on I-70 in 2014.  I've not quite
                      gotten over that episode yet,  Yes, don't fool
                      around with wheel bearings!</p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">The root cause of my
                      wheel-fell-off episode was a restorer who was more
                      used to MG bearing preloads than a TR3's
                      non-preloaded bearings.  He read this part of the
                      Red Book service instructions as 101 lb·ft, not 10
                      lb·ft.  Yikes.</p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">This happened in western Ohio,
                      not too far from Macy's Garage as it turned out. 
                      And although Mark and Co. didn't do the work that
                      led to the wheel coming off, they know my car and
                      were able to take it into their shop that
                      afternoon while I flew home.</p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">So listen to the voice of two
                      of us with scary experiences.  Take care with
                      wheel bearings.</p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 6:01 PM
                      Philip Ethier &lt;<a
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">Don't mess with wheel
                          bearings.  Get it checked out.  I lost a wheel
                          on my TR4 on the way home from the VTR in
                          2005.</p>
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                            5:35 PM Sujit Roy &lt;<a
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                            <p class="MsoNormal">I have a Stag and have
                              checked and changed various components
                              like bottom ball joint and top shock
                              mount, but am still experiencing a
                              vibration, through the steering wheel, 
                              from the left front wheel only when I'm
                              turning left. The car had been fitted with
                              all new poly bushes.</p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">There is no vibration
                                going straight or when turning right. </p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">I plan to swap the
                                wheel with my spare,  but can a bad
                                bearing cause these symptoms?</p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">The hub rotates
                                smoothly and there is no noise.</p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">The TR6 uses a
                                similar vertical link setup as the Stag.
                                The hub bearings are tapered.</p>
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really lucky it didn't rip the whole fender off

ptegler

On 2/27/2023 8:18 PM, Alex & Janet Thomson wrote:
>
> Wow! That definitely is a car with a broken leg! I’ve never done any 
> work on an MG but I’ve never heard of a pre-load of 101 ft.-lbs. for 
> front wheel bearings. All of our farm tractors, about 10, from a 
> Farmall H to a Deere 4250, use the common specification of “hand 
> tighten to a slight drag, and then back off to the nearest 
> castellation”. That’s what I have done on all of our cars and trucks 
> over the years and it seems to work.
>
> *From:*Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of 
> *Don Hiscock
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad 
> front wheel bearing?
>
> And I lost a front wheel on my TR3B at 70 mph on I-70 in 2014.  I've 
> not quite gotten over that episode yet,  Yes, don't fool around with 
> wheel bearings!
>
> more used to MG bearing preloads than a TR3's non-preloaded bearings.  
> He read this part of the Red Book service instructions as 101 lb·ft, 
> not 10 lb·ft.  Yikes.
>
> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/O/i-7mHq3MKpng 
> <https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/O/i-7mHq3MK.png>
>
> This happened in western Ohio, not too far from Macy's Garage as it 
> turned out.  And although Mark and Co. didn't do the work that led to 
> the wheel coming off, they know my car and were able to take it into 
>     On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 5:35 PM Sujit Roy <[email-masked]>
>     wrote:
>
>         I have a Stag and have checked and changed various components
>         like bottom ball joint and top shock mount, but am still
>         experiencing a vibration, through the steering wheel,  from
>         the left front wheel only when I'm turning left. The car had
>         been fitted with all new poly bushes.
>
>         I plan to swap the wheel with my spare,  but can a bad bearing
>         cause these symptoms?
>
>         The TR6 uses a similar vertical link setup as the Stag. The
>         hub bearings are tapered.
>
>         Sujit
>
>         -- 
>
>         Sujit Roy
>         Cupertino, California
>
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    <p>really lucky it didn't rip the whole fender off</p>
    <p>ptegler</p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/27/2023 8:18 PM, Alex &amp; Janet
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style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Wow!
            That definitely is a car with a broken leg! I’ve never done
            any work on an MG but I’ve never heard of a pre-load of 101
            ft.-lbs. for front wheel bearings. All of our farm tractors,
            about 10, from a Farmall H to a Deere 4250, use the common
            specification of “hand tighten to a slight drag, and then
            back off to the nearest castellation”. That’s what I have
            done on all of our cars and trucks over the years and it
            seems to work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Can
            someone explain the 101 ft.-lb. spec or is that just a
            misprint?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span
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            Triumphs [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] <b>On
              Behalf Of </b>Don Hiscock<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 27, 2023 7:21 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> Philip Ethier<br>
            <b>Cc:</b> Triumphs<br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting
            indicative of a bad front wheel bearing?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">And I lost a front wheel on my TR3B at
              70 mph on I-70 in 2014.  I've not quite gotten over that
              episode yet,  Yes, don't fool around with wheel bearings!<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">The root cause of my wheel-fell-off
              episode was a restorer who was more used to MG bearing
              preloads than a TR3's non-preloaded bearings.  He read
              this part of the Red Book service instructions as 101
              lb·ft, not 10 lb·ft.  Yikes.<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">This happened in western Ohio, not too
              far from Macy's Garage as it turned out.  And although
              Mark and Co. didn't do the work that led to the wheel
              coming off, they know my car and were able to take it into
              their shop that afternoon while I flew home.<o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">So listen to the voice of two of us
              with scary experiences.  Take care with wheel bearings.<o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
        </div>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 6:01 PM Philip
              Ethier &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
              wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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            1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in
            6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
            <div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal">Don't mess with wheel bearings. 
                  Get it checked out.  I lost a wheel on my TR4 on the
                  way home from the VTR in 2005.<o:p></o:p></p>
              </div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
              <div>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 5:35 PM
                    Sujit Roy &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                    wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC
                  1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in
                  6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">I have a Stag and have checked
                      and changed various components like bottom ball
                      joint and top shock mount, but am still
                      experiencing a vibration, through the
                      steering wheel,  from the left front wheel only
                      when I'm turning left. The car had been fitted
                      with all new poly bushes.<o:p></o:p></p>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">There is no vibration going
                        straight or when turning right. <o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">I plan to swap the wheel with
                        my spare,  but can a bad bearing cause these
                        symptoms?<o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">The hub rotates smoothly and
                        there is no noise.<o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">The TR6 uses a similar
                        vertical link setup as the Stag. The hub
                        bearings are tapered.<o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">Sujit <br clear="all">
                        <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">-- <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <div>
                        <div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal">Sujit Roy<br>
                              Cupertino, California<o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
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                                    Ethier West Side Saint Paul
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                                    jack", Sapphire Blue</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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From: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2023 07:09:28 -0500 (EST)

I had a similar situation with my TR3 in 1972. The studs holding on the wire wheel adapter broke. I head a bump and then the tire rolled past me going down the road.

Ronald Olds

----- Original Message -----
From: Don Hiscock &lt;[email-masked]&gt;
To: Philip Ethier &lt;[email-masked]&gt;
Cc: Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;
Sent: Mon, 27 Feb 2023 19:21:03 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom I&#039;m getting indicative of a bad front wheel bearing?

And I lost a front wheel on my TR3B at 70 mph on I-70 in 2014.  I&#039;ve not
quite gotten over that episode yet,  Yes, don&#039;t fool around with wheel
bearings!

The root cause of my wheel-fell-off episode was a restorer who was more
used to MG bearing preloads than a TR3&#039;s non-preloaded bearings.  He read
this part of the Red Book service instructions as 101 lb·ft, not 10 lb·ft.
Yikes.
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/O/i-7mHq3MK.png
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8zPPqt3/0/1e459484/XL/i-8zPPqt3-XL.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wBTPGjg/0/5123f2e5/X3/i-wBTPGjg-X3.jpg

This happened in western Ohio, not too far from Macy&#039;s Garage as it turned
out.  And although Mark and Co. didn&#039;t do the work that led to the wheel
coming off, they know my car and were able to take it into their shop that
afternoon while I flew home.

On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 6:01 PM Philip Ethier &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:

&gt; Don&#039;t mess with wheel bearings.  Get it checked out.  I lost a wheel on my
&gt; TR4 on the way home from the VTR in 2005.
&gt;
&gt; On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 5:35 PM Sujit Roy &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; I have a Stag and have checked and changed various components like bottom
&gt;&gt; ball joint and top shock mount, but am still experiencing a vibration,
&gt;&gt; through the steering wheel,  from the left front wheel only when I&#039;m
&gt;&gt; turning left. The car had been fitted with all new poly bushes.
&gt;&gt; There is no vibration going straight or when turning right.
&gt;&gt; I plan to swap the wheel with my spare,  but can a bad bearing cause
&gt;&gt; these symptoms?
&gt;&gt; The hub rotates smoothly and there is no noise.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; The TR6 uses a similar vertical link setup as the Stag. The hub
&gt;&gt; bearings are tapered.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Sujit
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; --
&gt;&gt; Sujit Roy
&gt;&gt; Cupertino, California
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/
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&gt; 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW &#034;uncle jack&#034;, Sapphire Blue
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Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2023 13:35:54 +0000 (UTC)

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 Still, 101???=C2=A0 Not 100?=C2=A0 Nobody lists a torque setting to +/- 1%=
=C2=A0 Especially back in the day.=C2=A0 With the old torsion-beam torque w=
renches with a linear scale you're lucky to get +/- 5 lb-ft.
=20
Dave=20

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-----Original Message-----
From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]>
To: Alex & Janet Thomson <[email-masked]>
Cc: Triumphs <[email-masked]>
Sent: Mon, Feb 27, 2023 7:28 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front whe=
el bearing?

It's not a misprint, unless the missing space between the zero and the ell =
count.=C2=A0 It's mainly dyslexic or too-fast reading, or perhaps being mor=
e familiar with ft-lb convention than lb-ft that led him to see 101.
On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 7:18 PM Alex & Janet Thomson <[email-masked]=
et> wrote:

Wow! That definitely is a car with a broken leg! I=E2=80=99ve never done an=
y work on an MG but I=E2=80=99ve never heard of a pre-load of 101 ft.-lbs. =
for front wheel bearings. All of our farm tractors, about 10, from a Farmal=
l H to a Deere 4250, use the common specification of =E2=80=9Chand tighten =
to a slight drag, and then back off to the nearest castellation=E2=80=9D. T=
hat=E2=80=99s what I have done on all of our cars and trucks over the years=
 and it seems to work.=C2=A0Can someone explain the 101 ft.-lb. spec or is =
that just a misprint?=C2=A0Alex Thomson=C2=A0From: Triumphs [mailto:triumph=
[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Don Hiscock
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2023 7:21 PM
To: Philip Ethier
Cc: Triumphs
Subject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front whe=
el bearing?=C2=A0And I lost a front wheel on my TR3B at 70 mph on I-70 in 2=
014.=C2=A0 I've not quite gotten over that episode yet,=C2=A0 Yes, don't fo=
ol around with wheel bearings!=C2=A0The root cause of my wheel-fell-off epi=
sode was a restorer who was more used to MG bearing preloads than a TR3's n=
on-preloaded bearings.=C2=A0 He read this part of the Red Book service inst=
ructions as 101 lb=C2=B7ft, not 10 lb=C2=B7ft.=C2=A0 Yikes.https://photos.s=
mugmug.com/photos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/O/i-7mHq3MK.pnghttps://photos.smugmu=
g.com/photos/i-8zPPqt3/0/1e459484/XL/i-8zPPqt3-XL.jpghttps://photos.smugmug=
.com/photos/i-wBTPGjg/0/5123f2e5/X3/i-wBTPGjg-X3.jpg=C2=A0This happened in =
western Ohio, not too far from Macy's Garage as it turned out.=C2=A0 And al=
though Mark and Co. didn't do the work that led to the wheel coming off, th=
ey know my car and were able to take it into their shop that afternoon whil=
e I flew home.=C2=A0So listen to the voice of two of us with scary experien=
ces.=C2=A0 Take care with wheel bearings.=C2=A0On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 6:01=
 PM Philip Ethier <[email-masked]> wrote:
Don't mess with=C2=A0wheel bearings.=C2=A0 Get it checked out.=C2=A0 I lost=
 a wheel on my TR4 on the way home from the VTR in 2005.=C2=A0On Mon, Feb 2=
7, 2023 at 5:35=E2=80=AFPM Sujit Roy <[email-masked]> wrote:
I have a Stag and have checked and changed various components like bottom b=
all joint and top shock mount, but am still experiencing a vibration, throu=
gh the steering=C2=A0wheel,=C2=A0 from the left front wheel only when I'm t=
urning left. The car had been fitted with all new poly bushes.There is no v=
ibration going straight or when turning right.=C2=A0I plan to swap the whee=
l with my spare,=C2=A0 but can a bad bearing cause these symptoms?The hub r=
otates smoothly and there is no noise.=C2=A0The TR6 uses a similar vertical=
 link setup as the Stag. The hub bearings=C2=A0are tapered.=C2=A0=C2=A0Suji=
t=C2=A0
=C2=A0-- Sujit Roy
Cupertino, California
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<div> <font size=3D"3">Still, 101???&nbsp; Not 100?&nbsp; Nobody lists a to=
rque setting to +/- 1%&nbsp; Especially back in the day.&nbsp; With the old=
 torsion-beam torque wrenches with a linear scale you're lucky to get +/- 5=
 lb-ft.</font><br>
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<div><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"><=
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 size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Don Hiscock &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Mon, Feb 27, 2023 7:28 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front whe=
el bearing?<br>
<br>

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<div style=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"yiv5715629523gmail_default">It's n=
ot a misprint, unless the missing space between the zero and the ell count.=
&nbsp; It's mainly dyslexic or too-fast reading, or perhaps being more fami=
liar with ft-lb convention than lb-ft that led him to see 101.</div>
</div>
<br clear=3D"none">
<div id=3D"yiv5715629523yqt74756" class=3D"yiv5715629523yqt4294754480">
<div class=3D"yiv5715629523gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv5715629523gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at =
7:18 PM Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer=
" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"yiv5715629523gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"yiv5715629523msg2070731444121065553">
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<div class=3D"yiv5715629523MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,;c=
olor:rgb(31,73,125);">Wow! That definitely is a car with a broken leg! I=E2=
=80=99ve never done any work on an MG but I=E2=80=99ve never heard of a pre=
-load of 101 ft.-lbs. for front wheel bearings. All of our farm tractors, a=
bout 10, from a Farmall H to a Deere 4250, use the common specification of =
=E2=80=9Chand tighten to a slight drag, and then back off to the nearest ca=
stellation=E2=80=9D. That=E2=80=99s what I have done on all of our cars and=
 trucks over the years and it seems to work.<u></u><u></u></span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5715629523MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,;c=
olor:rgb(31,73,125);"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5715629523MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,;c=
olor:rgb(31,73,125);">Can someone explain the 101 ft.-lb. spec or is that j=
ust a misprint?<u></u><u></u></span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5715629523MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,;c=
olor:rgb(31,73,125);"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5715629523MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,;c=
olor:rgb(31,73,125);">Alex Thomson<u></u><u></u></span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5715629523MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,;c=
olor:rgb(31,73,125);"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5715629523MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font=
-family:Tahoma,;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family=
:Tahoma,;"> Triumphs [mailto:<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=
=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bla=
nk" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">triumphs-bounces@autox.=
team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Don Hiscock<br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b=
> Monday, February 27, 2023 7:21 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> Philip Eth=
ier<br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc:</b> Triumphs<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b>=
 Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front wheel beari=
ng?<u></u><u></u></span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5715629523MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></div>

<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5715629523MsoNormal">And I lost a front wheel on my TR3B a=
t 70 mph on I-70 in 2014.&nbsp; I've not quite gotten over that episode yet=
,&nbsp; Yes, don't fool around with wheel bearings!<u></u><u></u></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5715629523MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5715629523MsoNormal">The root cause of my wheel-fell-off e=
pisode was a restorer who was more used to MG bearing preloads than a TR3's=
 non-preloaded bearings.&nbsp; He read this part of the Red Book service in=
structions as 101 lb=C2=B7ft, not 10 lb=C2=B7ft.&nbsp; Yikes.<u></u><u></u>=
</div>
</div>

<div>
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r" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/phot=
os/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/O/i-7mHq3MK.png">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/=
i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/O/i-7mHq3MK.png</a><u></u><u></u></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv5715629523MsoNormal">This happened in western Ohio, not to=
o far from Macy's Garage as it turned out.&nbsp; And although Mark and Co. =
didn't do the work that led to the wheel coming off, they know my car and w=
ere able to take it into their shop that afternoon while I flew home.<u></u=
><u></u></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5715629523MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></div>
</div>

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<div class=3D"yiv5715629523MsoNormal">So listen to the voice of two of us w=
ith scary experiences.&nbsp; Take care with wheel bearings.<u></u><u></u></=
div>
</div>
</div>

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<div class=3D"yiv5715629523MsoNormal">On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 6:01 PM Phili=
p Ethier &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=
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<div>
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<div class=3D"yiv5715629523MsoNormal">Don't mess with&nbsp;wheel bearings.&=
nbsp; Get it checked out.&nbsp; I lost a wheel on my TR4 on the way home fr=
om the VTR in 2005.<u></u><u></u></div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv5715629523MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></div>

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<div class=3D"yiv5715629523MsoNormal">On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 5:35=E2=80=AF=
PM Sujit Roy &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" yma=
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order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0in;">
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5715629523MsoNormal">I have a Stag and have checked and ch=
anged various components like bottom ball joint and top shock mount, but am=
 still experiencing a vibration, through the steering&nbsp;wheel,&nbsp; fro=
m the left front wheel only when I'm turning left. The car had been fitted =
with all new poly bushes.<u></u><u></u></div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5715629523MsoNormal">There is no vibration going straight =
or when turning right.&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5715629523MsoNormal">I plan to swap the wheel with my spar=
e,&nbsp; but can a bad bearing cause these symptoms?<u></u><u></u></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5715629523MsoNormal">The hub rotates smoothly and there is=
 no noise.<u></u><u></u></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5715629523MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5715629523MsoNormal">The TR6 uses a similar vertical link =
setup as the Stag. The hub bearings&nbsp;are tapered.<u></u><u></u></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5715629523MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5715629523MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></div>
</div>

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<div class=3D"yiv5715629523MsoNormal">Sujit&nbsp;<br clear=3D"all"><u></u><=
u></u></div>

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</div>

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Yeah, I know...

On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 7:35 AM DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Still, 101???  Not 100?  Nobody lists a torque setting to +/- 1%
> Especially back in the day.  With the old torsion-beam torque wrenches wi=
th
> a linear scale you're lucky to get +/- 5 lb-ft.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front
> wheel bearing?
>
> It's not a misprint, unless the missing space between the zero and the el=
l
any work
ront wheel
rag, and
 have done on all
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Yea=
h, I know...</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cla=
ss=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 7:35 AM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l=
eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"color:black;font:12pt Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<div> <font size=3D"3">Still, 101???=C2=A0 Not 100?=C2=A0 Nobody lists a to=
rque setting to +/- 1%=C2=A0 Especially back in the day.=C2=A0 With the old=
 torsion-beam torque wrenches with a linear scale you&#39;re lucky to get +=
/- 5 lb-ft.</font><br>
</div>

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<div><font size=3D"4">Dave <br>
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<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black"><font=
 size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Don Hiscock &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
To: Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
Cc: Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Mon, Feb 27, 2023 7:28 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom I&#39;m getting indicative of a bad front=
 wheel bearing?<br>
<br>

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<div style=3D"font-size:small">It&#39;s not a misprint, unless the missing =
space between the zero and the ell count.=C2=A0 It&#39;s mainly dyslexic or=
 too-fast reading, or perhaps being more familiar with ft-lb convention tha=
n lb-ft that led him to see 101.</div>
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<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 7:18 PM Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &=
lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:al=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br clear=3D"none"></div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div lang=3D"EN-US">
<div>
<div><span>Wow! That definitely is a car with a broken leg! I=E2=80=99ve ne=
ver done any work on an MG but I=E2=80=99ve never heard of a pre-load of 10=
1 ft.-lbs. for front wheel bearings. All of our farm tractors, about 10, fr=
om a Farmall H to a Deere 4250, use the common specification of =E2=80=9Cha=
nd tighten to a slight drag, and then back off to the nearest castellation=
=E2=80=9D. That=E2=80=99s what I have done on all of our cars and trucks ov=
er the years and it seems to work.<u></u><u></u></span></div>

<div><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div>

<div><span>Can someone explain the 101 ft.-lb. spec or is that just a mispr=
int?<u></u><u></u></span></div>

<div><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div>

<div><span>Alex Thomson<u></u><u></u></span></div>

<div><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div>

<div><b><span>From:</span></b><span> Triumphs [mailto:<a rel=3D"nofollow no=
opener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf =
Of </b>Don Hiscock<br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 27, 2023=
 7:21 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> Philip Ethier<br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc=
:</b> Triumphs<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Is this symptom I=
&#39;m getting indicative of a bad front wheel bearing?<u></u><u></u></span=
></div>

<div><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div>

<div>
<div>
<div>And I lost a front wheel on my TR3B at 70 mph on I-70 in 2014.=C2=A0 I=
&#39;ve not quite gotten over that episode yet,=C2=A0 Yes, don&#39;t fool a=
round with wheel bearings!<u></u><u></u></div>
</div>

<div>
<div><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div>
</div>

<div>
<div>The root cause of my wheel-fell-off episode was a restorer who was mor=
e used to MG bearing preloads than a TR3&#39;s non-preloaded bearings.=C2=
=A0 He read this part of the Red Book service instructions as 101 lb=C2=B7f=
t, not 10 lb=C2=B7ft.=C2=A0 Yikes.<u></u><u></u></div>
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<div><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div>
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<div>This happened in western Ohio, not too far from Macy&#39;s Garage as i=
t turned out.=C2=A0 And although Mark and Co. didn&#39;t do the work that l=
ed to the wheel coming off, they know my car and were able to take it into =
their shop that afternoon while I flew home.<u></u><u></u></div>
</div>

<div>
<div><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div>
</div>

<div>
<div>So listen to the voice of two of us with scary experiences.=C2=A0 Take=
 care with wheel bearings.<u></u><u></u></div>
</div>
</div>

<div><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div>

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<div>
<div>On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 6:01 PM Philip Ethier &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow n=
oopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targe=
t=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></div>
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order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0in">
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<div>
<div>Don&#39;t mess with=C2=A0wheel bearings.=C2=A0 Get it checked out.=C2=
=A0 I lost a wheel on my TR4 on the way home from the VTR in 2005.<u></u><u=
></u></div>
</div>

<div><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div>

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<div>On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 5:35=E2=80=AFPM Sujit Roy &lt;<a rel=3D"nofoll=
ow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></div=
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<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<div>I have a Stag and have checked and changed various components like bot=
tom ball joint and top shock mount, but am still experiencing a vibration, =
through the steering=C2=A0wheel,=C2=A0 from the left front wheel only when =
I&#39;m turning left. The car had been fitted with all new poly bushes.<u><=
/u><u></u></div>

<div>
<div>There is no vibration going straight or when turning right.=C2=A0<u></=
u><u></u></div>
</div>

<div>
<div>I plan to swap the wheel with my spare,=C2=A0 but can a bad bearing ca=
use these symptoms?<u></u><u></u></div>
</div>

<div>
<div>The hub rotates smoothly and there is no noise.<u></u><u></u></div>
</div>

<div>
<div><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div>
</div>

<div>
<div>The TR6 uses a similar vertical link setup as the Stag. The hub bearin=
gs=C2=A0are tapered.<u></u><u></u></div>
</div>

<div>
<div><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div>
</div>

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</div>

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</div>

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 When I think vibration I think warped rotors.=C2=A0 It may be that the whe=
el bearings are loose enough that vibration only appears when the wheel is =
forced into one of the pads in a left turn.=C2=A0 Otherwise the vibration m=
ay be sufficiently minor that the power steering suppresses it to the point=
 that you don't feel it.=C2=A0=20

A bent wheel may also be the culprit.=C2=A0=20

Lots of potential sources to check out. =C2=A0=20
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From: Sujit Roy <[email-masked]>
To: Triumphs <[email-masked]>
Sent: Mon, Feb 27, 2023 5:06 pm
Subject: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front wheel b=
earing?

I have a Stag and have checked and changed various components like bottom b=
all joint and top shock mount, but am still experiencing a vibration, throu=
gh the steering=C2=A0wheel,=C2=A0 from the left front wheel only when I'm t=
urning left. The car had been fitted with all new poly bushes.There is no v=
ibration going straight or when turning right.=C2=A0I plan to swap the whee=
l with my spare,=C2=A0 but can a bad bearing cause these symptoms?The hub r=
otates smoothly and there is no noise.
The TR6 uses a similar vertical link setup as the Stag. The hub bearings=C2=
=A0are tapered.

Sujit=C2=A0

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<div> <font size="3">When I think vibration I think warped rotors.&nbsp; It may be that the wheel bearings are loose enough that vibration only appears when the wheel is forced into one of the pads in a left turn.&nbsp; Otherwise the vibration may be sufficiently minor that the power steering suppresses it to the point that you don't feel it.&nbsp; <br>
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<div><font size="3">A bent wheel may also be the culprit.&nbsp; <br>
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<div><font size="3">Lots of potential sources to check out. &nbsp; <br>
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From: Sujit Roy &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Mon, Feb 27, 2023 5:06 pm<br>
Subject: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front wheel bearing?<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I have a Stag and have checked and changed various components like bottom ball joint and top shock mount, but am still experiencing a vibration, through the steering&nbsp;wheel,&nbsp; from the left front wheel only when I'm turning left. The car had been fitted with all new poly bushes.
<div>There is no vibration going straight or when turning right.&nbsp;</div>

<div>I plan to swap the wheel with my spare,&nbsp; but can a bad bearing cause these symptoms?</div>

<div>The hub rotates smoothly and there is no noise.</div>

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<div>The TR6 uses a similar vertical link setup as the Stag. The hub bearings&nbsp;are tapered.</div>

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I didn=E2=80=99t know that MGs used a spacer sleeve and shims for =
adjustment. How fun would that be when doing wheel bearing service on =
all of my farm equipment. Let=E2=80=99s see =E2=80=93 8 tractors, 7 =
four-wheel hay wagons, 3 balers, four hay rakes, and the list goes =
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Subject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front =
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Yeah, I know...

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Still, 101???  Not 100?  Nobody lists a torque setting to +/- 1%  =
Especially back in the day.  With the old torsion-beam torque wrenches =
with a linear scale you're lucky to get +/- 5 lb-ft.

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Cc: Triumphs <[email-masked]>
Sent: Mon, Feb 27, 2023 7:28 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front =
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It's not a misprint, unless the missing space between the zero and the =
ell count.  It's mainly dyslexic or too-fast reading, or perhaps being =
more familiar with ft-lb convention than lb-ft that led him to see 101.

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style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I =
didn=E2=80=99t know that MGs used a spacer sleeve and shims for =
adjustment. How fun would that be when doing wheel bearing service on =
all of my farm equipment. Let=E2=80=99s see =E2=80=93 8 tractors, 7 =
four-wheel hay wagons, 3 balers, four hay rakes, and the list goes =
on=E2=80=A6<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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Thomson<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>=E2=80=9973 =
TR6<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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Don Hiscock [mailto:[email-masked]] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, =
February 28, 2023 8:40 AM<br><b>To:</b> DAVID MASSEY<br><b>Cc:</b> =
[email-masked]; [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front wheel =
bearing?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Yeah, I know...<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 7:35 AM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Still, =
101???&nbsp; Not 100?&nbsp; Nobody lists a torque setting to +/- =
1%&nbsp; Especially back in the day.&nbsp; With the old torsion-beam =
torque wrenches with a linear scale you're lucky to get +/- 5 =
lb-ft.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><=
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ave </span><span =
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----Original Message-----<br>From: Don Hiscock &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>To: Alex &amp; Janet =
Thomson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Cc: Triumphs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Sent: Mon, Feb 27, =
2023 7:28 pm<br>Subject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative =
of a bad front wheel bearing?<o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
id=3D"m_25085995673554113yiv5715629523"><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>It's not a =
misprint, unless the missing space between the zero and the ell =
count.&nbsp; It's mainly dyslexic or too-fast reading, or perhaps being =
more familiar with ft-lb convention than lb-ft that led him to see =
101.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
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n Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 7:18 PM Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
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class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>W=
ow! That definitely is a car with a broken leg! I=E2=80=99ve never done =
any work on an MG but I=E2=80=99ve never heard of a pre-load of 101 =
ft.-lbs. for front wheel bearings. All of our farm tractors, about 10, =
from a Farmall H to a Deere 4250, use the common specification of =
=E2=80=9Chand tighten to a slight drag, and then back off to the nearest =
castellation=E2=80=9D. That=E2=80=99s what I have done on all of our =
cars and trucks over the years and it seems to =
work.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>C=
an someone explain the 101 ft.-lb. spec or is that just a =
misprint?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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lex Thomson<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
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Triumphs [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Don Hiscock<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 27, 2023 7:21 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Philip Ethier<br><b>Cc:</b> Triumphs<br><b>Subject:</b> =
Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front wheel =
bearing?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>A=
nd I lost a front wheel on my TR3B at 70 mph on I-70 in 2014.&nbsp; I've =
not quite gotten over that episode yet,&nbsp; Yes, don't fool around =
with wheel bearings!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
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he root cause of my wheel-fell-off episode was a restorer who was more =
used to MG bearing preloads than a TR3's non-preloaded bearings.&nbsp; =
He read this part of the Red Book service instructions as 101 =
lb=C2=B7ft, not 10 lb=C2=B7ft.&nbsp; =
Yikes.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
a =
href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/O/i-7mHq3M=
K.png" =
target=3D"_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/=
O/i-7mHq3MK.png</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
a =
href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8zPPqt3/0/1e459484/XL/i-8zPPq=
t3-XL.jpg" =
target=3D"_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8zPPqt3/0/1e459484/=
XL/i-8zPPqt3-XL.jpg</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
a =
href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wBTPGjg/0/5123f2e5/X3/i-wBTPG=
jg-X3.jpg" =
target=3D"_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wBTPGjg/0/5123f2e5/=
X3/i-wBTPGjg-X3.jpg</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>T=
his happened in western Ohio, not too far from Macy's Garage as it =
turned out.&nbsp; And although Mark and Co. didn't do the work that led =
to the wheel coming off, they know my car and were able to take it into =
their shop that afternoon while I flew =
home.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>S=
o listen to the voice of two of us with scary experiences.&nbsp; Take =
care with wheel bearings.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>O=
n Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 6:01 PM Philip Ethier &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>D=
on't mess with&nbsp;wheel bearings.&nbsp; Get it checked out.&nbsp; I =
lost a wheel on my TR4 on the way home from the VTR in =
2005.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>O=
n Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 5:35=E2=80=AFPM Sujit Roy &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I=
 have a Stag and have checked and changed various components like bottom =
ball joint and top shock mount, but am still experiencing a vibration, =
through the steering&nbsp;wheel,&nbsp; from the left front wheel only =
when I'm turning left. The car had been fitted with all new poly =
bushes.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>T=
here is no vibration going straight or when turning =
right.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I=
 plan to swap the wheel with my spare,&nbsp; but can a bad bearing cause =
these symptoms?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>T=
he hub rotates smoothly and there is no =
noise.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>T=
he TR6 uses a similar vertical link setup as the Stag. The hub =
bearings&nbsp;are tapered.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>S=
ujit&nbsp;<br clear=3Dall><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-=
- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>S=
ujit Roy<br>Cupertino, =
California<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
br><a href=3D"https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/</a><o:p></o:p></=
span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><p =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>*=
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<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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hil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota =
USA<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>1=
973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW &quot;uncle jack&quot;, Sapphire =
Blue<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div=
></div></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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The rotor has been checked for run out. Only thing left is the bearing and
wheel. The bearing is easy to change, but so far the replies don't answer
the original question.
Sujit

On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 7:15=E2=80=AFAM Alex & Janet Thomson <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> I didn=E2=80=99t know that MGs used a spacer sleeve and shims for adjustm=
ent. How
> fun would that be when doing wheel bearing service on all of my farm
> equipment. Let=E2=80=99s see =E2=80=93 8 tractors, 7 four-wheel hay wagon=
s, 3 balers, four
> hay rakes, and the list goes on=E2=80=A6
>
>
>
> Alex Thomson
>
> =E2=80=9973 TR6
>
>
>
> *From:* Don Hiscock [mailto:[email-masked]]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2023 8:40 AM
> *To:* DAVID MASSEY
> *Cc:* [email-masked]; [email-masked]
th
l
any work
ront wheel
rag, and
 have done on all
Don
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> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/[email-masked]
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<div dir=3D"ltr">The=C2=A0rotor has been checked for run out. Only thing le=
ft is the bearing and wheel. The bearing is easy to change, but so far the =
replies=C2=A0don&#39;t=C2=A0answer the original question.<div>Sujit<br><div=
><br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" clas=
s=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 7:15=E2=80=AFAM Alex &amp; Janet T=
homson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
et</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex=
"><div class=3D"msg152652332295167395"><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div class=3D"m_=
152652332295167395WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
family:Calibri,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I didn=E2=80=99=
t know that MGs used a spacer sleeve and shims for adjustment. How fun woul=
d that be when doing wheel bearing service on all of my farm equipment. Let=
=E2=80=99s see =E2=80=93 8 tractors, 7 four-wheel hay wagons, 3 balers, fou=
r hay rakes, and the list goes on=E2=80=A6<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:rgb(31,73,12=
5)">Alex Thomson<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-family:Calibri,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:rgb(31,73,125)">=E2=80=
=9973 TR6<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-family:Calibri,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0=
<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;f=
ont-family:Tahoma,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Don Hiscock [mailt=
o:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">don.hiscock@gm=
ail.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 28, 2023 8:40 AM<br><b>To:<=
/b> DAVID MASSEY<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" t=
arget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@au=
tox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:<=
/b> Re: [TR] Is this symptom I&#39;m getting indicative of a bad front whee=
l bearing?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u><=
/u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Yeah, I know...<u></u><u></u></p></=
div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 7:35 AM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wro=
te:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-righ=
t:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black=
">Still, 101???=C2=A0 Not 100?=C2=A0 Nobody lists a torque setting to +/- 1=
%=C2=A0 Especially back in the day.=C2=A0 With the old torsion-beam torque =
wrenches with a linear scale you&#39;re lucky to get +/- 5 lb-ft.<u></u><u>=
</u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family=
:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><=
/div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13=
.5pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Dave </span><spa=
n style=3D"font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><u></u><u>=
</u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family=
:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><=
/div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-ser=
if&quot;;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div></div></div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black=
"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D=
"margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>From: Don Hisco=
ck &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">don.hisco=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>To: Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<=
br>Cc: Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Sent: Mon, Feb 27, 2023 7:28 pm<br=
>Subject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom I&#39;m getting indicative of a bad fron=
t wheel bearing?<u></u><u></u></span></p><div id=3D"m_152652332295167395m_2=
5085995673554113yiv5715629523"><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">It&#39;s not=
 a misprint, unless the missing space between the zero and the ell count.=
=C2=A0 It&#39;s mainly dyslexic or too-fast reading, or perhaps being more =
familiar with ft-lb convention than lb-ft that led him to see 101.<u></u><u=
></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u=
></u></span></p><div id=3D"m_152652332295167395m_25085995673554113yiv571562=
9523yqt74756"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10p=
t;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">On Mon, Feb 27, 202=
3 at 7:18 PM Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:aljlthomson@cha=
rter.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u=
></u></span></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:non=
e;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in=
 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-s=
erif&quot;;color:black">Wow! That definitely is a car with a broken leg! I=
=E2=80=99ve never done any work on an MG but I=E2=80=99ve never heard of a =
pre-load of 101 ft.-lbs. for front wheel bearings. All of our farm tractors=
, about 10, from a Farmall H to a Deere 4250, use the common specification =
of =E2=80=9Chand tighten to a slight drag, and then back off to the nearest=
 castellation=E2=80=9D. That=E2=80=99s what I have done on all of our cars =
and trucks over the years and it seems to work.<u></u><u></u></span></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Ar=
ial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Ari=
al,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Can someone explain the 101 ft.-lb. =
spec or is that just a misprint?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-s=
erif&quot;;color:black">Alex Thomson<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10p=
t;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"> Triumphs [mailto:<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">triumph=
[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Don Hiscock<br><b>Sent:</=
b> Monday, February 27, 2023 7:21 PM<br><b>To:</b> Philip Ethier<br><b>Cc:<=
/b> Triumphs<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Is this symptom I&#39;m getting in=
dicative of a bad front wheel bearing?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Ar=
ial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">And I lost a front wheel on my TR3B=
 at 70 mph on I-70 in 2014.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve not quite gotten over that episo=
de yet,=C2=A0 Yes, don&#39;t fool around with wheel bearings!<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0<u><=
/u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=
The root cause of my wheel-fell-off episode was a restorer who was more use=
d to MG bearing preloads than a TR3&#39;s non-preloaded bearings.=C2=A0 He =
read this part of the Red Book service instructions as 101 lb=C2=B7ft, not =
10 lb=C2=B7ft.=C2=A0 Yikes.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><a href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos=
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gmug.com/photos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/O/i-7mHq3MK.png</a><u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><a href=3D"http=
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get=3D"_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8zPPqt3/0/1e459484/XL/i-=
8zPPqt3-XL.jpg</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-s=
erif&quot;;color:black"><a href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wBTP=
Gjg/0/5123f2e5/X3/i-wBTPGjg-X3.jpg" target=3D"_blank">https://photos.smugmu=
g.com/photos/i-wBTPGjg/0/5123f2e5/X3/i-wBTPGjg-X3.jpg</a><u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0<u></u><=
u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Th=
is happened in western Ohio, not too far from Macy&#39;s Garage as it turne=
d out.=C2=A0 And although Mark and Co. didn&#39;t do the work that led to t=
he wheel coming off, they know my car and were able to take it into their s=
hop that afternoon while I flew home.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:A=
rial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></d=
iv></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;fon=
t-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">So listen to the voice o=
f two of us with scary experiences.=C2=A0 Take care with wheel bearings.<u>=
</u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black=
">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 6:01 PM Philip Ethier &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:=
<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;b=
order-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);=
padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin:5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt"><div><div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-s=
erif&quot;;color:black">Don&#39;t mess with=C2=A0wheel bearings.=C2=A0 Get =
it checked out.=C2=A0 I lost a wheel on my TR4 on the way home from the VTR=
 in 2005.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color=
:black">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&qu=
ot;;color:black">On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 5:35=E2=80=AFPM Sujit Roy &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
m</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><blockquote style=3D"b=
order-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid r=
gb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin:5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt"><div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">I have a Stag and have checked and changed=
 various components like bottom ball joint and top shock mount, but am stil=
l experiencing a vibration, through the steering=C2=A0wheel,=C2=A0 from the=
 left front wheel only when I&#39;m turning left. The car had been fitted w=
ith all new poly bushes.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-s=
erif&quot;;color:black">There is no vibration going straight or when turnin=
g right.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;;color:black">I plan to swap the wheel with my spare,=C2=A0 but can a b=
ad bearing cause these symptoms?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">The hub rotates smoothly and there is n=
o noise.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;c=
olor:black">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-s=
erif&quot;;color:black">The TR6 uses a similar vertical link setup as the S=
tag. The hub bearings=C2=A0are tapered.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div=
><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family=
:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p><=
/div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;f=
ont-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></=
span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Sujit=C2=A0<=
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rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot=
;;color:black">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;;color:black">-- <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Sujit Roy<br>Cupertino, California<u></u><u>=
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SA<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
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Sujit =E2=80=93 Sorry for getting off topic and rambling. Here=E2=80=99s =
a question or two. You mentioned that the vibration comes from the front =
left wheel during left turns. Since the vibration comes through the =
steering, I would suggest that both front wheels could be suspect. Look =
for any interference of tires with body or suspension parts. Does the =
vibration occur at slight steering angles or only when steering sharp =
left? Don=E2=80=99t discount things like a cracked wheel or more likely, =
a bad tire. I have heard first hand accounts that even new tires can be =
defective.

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From: Sujit Roy [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 11:33 AM
To: Alex & Janet Thomson
Cc: Don Hiscock; DAVID MASSEY; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front =
wheel bearing?

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The rotor has been checked for run out. Only thing left is the bearing =
and wheel. The bearing is easy to change, but so far the replies don't =
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Sujit

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Yeah, I know...

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Sent: Mon, Feb 27, 2023 7:28 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front =
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=E2=80=93 Sorry for getting off topic and rambling. Here=E2=80=99s a =
question or two. You mentioned that the vibration comes from the front =
left wheel during left turns. Since the vibration comes through the =
steering, I would suggest that both front wheels could be suspect. Look =
for any interference of tires with body or suspension parts. Does the =
vibration occur at slight steering angles or only when steering sharp =
left? Don=E2=80=99t discount things like a cracked wheel or more likely, =
a bad tire. I have heard first hand accounts that even new tires can be =
defective.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
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:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Sujit Roy [mailto:[email-masked]] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, =
February 28, 2023 11:33 AM<br><b>To:</b> Alex &amp; Janet =
Thomson<br><b>Cc:</b> Don Hiscock; DAVID MASSEY; =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm =
getting indicative of a bad front wheel bearing?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The&nbsp;rotor has been checked for run out. Only =
thing left is the bearing and wheel. The bearing is easy to change, but =
so far the replies&nbsp;don't&nbsp;answer the original =
question.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Sujit<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 7:15=E2=80=AFAM Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I =
didn=E2=80=99t know that MGs used a spacer sleeve and shims for =
adjustment. How fun would that be when doing wheel bearing service on =
all of my farm equipment. Let=E2=80=99s see =E2=80=93 8 tractors, 7 =
four-wheel hay wagons, 3 balers, four hay rakes, and the list goes =
on=E2=80=A6</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><=
o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Alex =
Thomson</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>=E2=80=9973 =
TR6</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><=
o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Don Hiscock [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, =
February 28, 2023 8:40 AM<br><b>To:</b> DAVID MASSEY<br><b>Cc:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front wheel =
bearing?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Yeah, I =
know...<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Tue, Feb =
28, 2023 at 7:35 AM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Still, =
101???&nbsp; Not 100?&nbsp; Nobody lists a torque setting to +/- =
1%&nbsp; Especially back in the day.&nbsp; With the old torsion-beam =
torque wrenches with a linear scale you're lucky to get +/- 5 =
lb-ft.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p>=
</o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>D=
ave </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p>=
</o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p>=
</o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p>=
</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p>=
</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-=
----Original Message-----<br>From: Don Hiscock &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>To: Alex &amp; Janet =
Thomson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Cc: Triumphs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Sent: Mon, Feb 27, =
2023 7:28 pm<br>Subject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative =
of a bad front wheel bearing?</span><o:p></o:p></p><div =
id=3D"m_152652332295167395m_25085995673554113yiv5715629523"><div><div><di=
v><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>It's not a =
misprint, unless the missing space between the zero and the ell =
count.&nbsp; It's mainly dyslexic or too-fast reading, or perhaps being =
more familiar with ft-lb convention than lb-ft that led him to see =
101.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div =
id=3D"m_152652332295167395m_25085995673554113yiv5715629523yqt74756"><div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>O=
n Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 7:18 PM Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>W=
ow! That definitely is a car with a broken leg! I=E2=80=99ve never done =
any work on an MG but I=E2=80=99ve never heard of a pre-load of 101 =
ft.-lbs. for front wheel bearings. All of our farm tractors, about 10, =
from a Farmall H to a Deere 4250, use the common specification of =
=E2=80=9Chand tighten to a slight drag, and then back off to the nearest =
castellation=E2=80=9D. That=E2=80=99s what I have done on all of our =
cars and trucks over the years and it seems to =
work.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>C=
an someone explain the 101 ft.-lb. spec or is that just a =
misprint?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>A=
lex Thomson</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>F=
rom:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> =
Triumphs [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Don Hiscock<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 27, 2023 7:21 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Philip Ethier<br><b>Cc:</b> Triumphs<br><b>Subject:</b> =
Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front wheel =
bearing?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>A=
nd I lost a front wheel on my TR3B at 70 mph on I-70 in 2014.&nbsp; I've =
not quite gotten over that episode yet,&nbsp; Yes, don't fool around =
with wheel bearings!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>T=
he root cause of my wheel-fell-off episode was a restorer who was more =
used to MG bearing preloads than a TR3's non-preloaded bearings.&nbsp; =
He read this part of the Red Book service instructions as 101 =
lb=C2=B7ft, not 10 lb=C2=B7ft.&nbsp; =
Yikes.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
a =
href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/O/i-7mHq3M=
K.png" =
target=3D"_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/=
O/i-7mHq3MK.png</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
a =
href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8zPPqt3/0/1e459484/XL/i-8zPPq=
t3-XL.jpg" =
target=3D"_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8zPPqt3/0/1e459484/=
XL/i-8zPPqt3-XL.jpg</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
a =
href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wBTPGjg/0/5123f2e5/X3/i-wBTPG=
jg-X3.jpg" =
target=3D"_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wBTPGjg/0/5123f2e5/=
X3/i-wBTPGjg-X3.jpg</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>T=
his happened in western Ohio, not too far from Macy's Garage as it =
turned out.&nbsp; And although Mark and Co. didn't do the work that led =
to the wheel coming off, they know my car and were able to take it into =
their shop that afternoon while I flew =
home.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>S=
o listen to the voice of two of us with scary experiences.&nbsp; Take =
care with wheel bearings.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>O=
n Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 6:01 PM Philip Ethier &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>D=
on't mess with&nbsp;wheel bearings.&nbsp; Get it checked out.&nbsp; I =
lost a wheel on my TR4 on the way home from the VTR in =
2005.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>O=
n Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 5:35=E2=80=AFPM Sujit Roy &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I=
 have a Stag and have checked and changed various components like bottom =
ball joint and top shock mount, but am still experiencing a vibration, =
through the steering&nbsp;wheel,&nbsp; from the left front wheel only =
when I'm turning left. The car had been fitted with all new poly =
bushes.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>T=
here is no vibration going straight or when turning =
right.&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I=
 plan to swap the wheel with my spare,&nbsp; but can a bad bearing cause =
these symptoms?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>T=
he hub rotates smoothly and there is no =
noise.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>T=
he TR6 uses a similar vertical link setup as the Stag. The hub =
bearings&nbsp;are tapered.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>S=
ujit&nbsp;<br clear=3Dall></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-=
- </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>S=
ujit Roy<br>Cupertino, =
California</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
br><a href=3D"https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/</a></span><o:p><=
/o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>*=
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=46rom a non-technical standpoint, I=E2=80=99ll share an experience I =
had many moons ago=E2=80=A6I had the exact symptoms you describe on an =
Audi Fox we owned.  Took it to the local dealer who diagnosed a bad left =
front wheel bearing. I replaced the wheel bearing and the symptoms =
disappeared. =20
And yes, I agree with what others have written: Wheel bearings and the =
related adjustments are critical!  If you do replace front wheel =
bearings, do both sides, and do adjust as per the manual.
Just MHO.
Cheers, Dennis

> On Feb 28, 2023, at 10:50 AM, Alex & Janet Thomson =
<[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> Sujit =E2=80=93 Sorry for getting off topic and rambling. Here=E2=80=99s=
 a question or two. You mentioned that the vibration comes from the =
front left wheel during left turns. Since the vibration comes through =
the steering, I would suggest that both front wheels could be suspect. =
Look for any interference of tires with body or suspension parts. Does =
the vibration occur at slight steering angles or only when steering =
sharp left? Don=E2=80=99t discount things like a cracked wheel or more =
likely, a bad tire. I have heard first hand accounts that even new tires =
can be defective.
> Subject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad =
front wheel bearing?
adjustment. How fun would that be when doing wheel bearing service on =
all of my farm equipment. Let=E2=80=99s see =E2=80=93 8 tractors, 7 =
four-wheel hay wagons, 3 balers, four hay rakes, and the list goes on=E2=80=
=A6
>> =20
>> Alex Thomson
>> =E2=80=9973 TR6
>> =20
>> From: Don Hiscock [mailto:[email-masked] =
>> Subject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad =
front wheel bearing?
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">=46rom a =
non-technical standpoint, I=E2=80=99ll share an experience I had many =
moons ago=E2=80=A6I had the exact symptoms you describe on an Audi Fox =
we owned. &nbsp;Took it to the local dealer who diagnosed a bad left =
front wheel bearing. I replaced the wheel bearing and the symptoms =
disappeared. &nbsp;<div>And yes, I agree with what others have written: =
Wheel bearings and the related adjustments are critical! &nbsp;If you do =
replace front wheel bearings, do both sides, and do adjust as per the =
manual.</div><div>Just MHO.</div><div>Cheers, =
Dennis<br><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Feb 28, 2023, at =
10:50 AM, Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;[email-masked]&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta =
charset=3D"UTF-8"><div class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: =
WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;"><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;"><span =
style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, =
125);">Sujit =E2=80=93 Sorry for getting off topic and rambling. =
Here=E2=80=99s a question or two. You mentioned that the vibration comes =
from the front left wheel during left turns. Since the vibration comes =
through the steering, I would suggest that both front wheels could be =
suspect. Look for any interference of tires with body or suspension =
parts. Does the vibration occur at slight steering angles or only when =
steering sharp left? Don=E2=80=99t discount things like a cracked wheel =
or more likely, a bad tire. I have heard first hand accounts that even =
new tires can be defective.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;, serif;"><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; =
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
&quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;"><span style=3D"font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Alex Thomson<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
&quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;"><span style=3D"font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, =
125);"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif;"><b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, =
sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Sujit Roy =
[mailto:[email-masked]]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Tuesday, February 28, 2023 =
11:33 AM<br><b>To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Alex &amp; Janet =
Thomson<br><b>Cc:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Don Hiscock; DAVID MASSEY; =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [TR] Is this symptom =
I'm getting indicative of a bad front wheel =
bearing?<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif;">The&nbsp;rotor has been checked for run out. Only thing left is =
the bearing and wheel. The bearing is easy to change, but so far the =
replies&nbsp;don't&nbsp;answer the original =
question.<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif;">Sujit<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;, serif;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div><div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
&quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;">On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 7:15=E2=80=AF=
AM Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: =
underline;">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><blockquote style=3D"border-style: none =
none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, =
204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: =
0in;" type=3D"cite"><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif;"><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, =
73, 125);">I didn=E2=80=99t know that MGs used a spacer sleeve and shims =
for adjustment. How fun would that be when doing wheel bearing service =
on all of my farm equipment. Let=E2=80=99s see =E2=80=93 8 tractors, 7 =
four-wheel hay wagons, 3 balers, four hay rakes, and the list goes =
on=E2=80=A6</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif;"><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, =
73, 125);">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif;"><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, =
73, 125);">Alex Thomson</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif;"><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, =
73, 125);">=E2=80=9973 TR6</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;, serif;"><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; =
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
&quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;"><b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Don Hiscock [mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: =
purple; text-decoration: underline;">[email-masked]</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Tuesday, February 28, 2023 =
8:40 AM<br><b>To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>DAVID =
MASSEY<br><b>Cc:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: =
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href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: =
purple; text-decoration: =
underline;">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [TR] Is this symptom =
I'm getting indicative of a bad front wheel =
bearing?</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
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As mentioned, two things, I'm yet to try. I have a few spare hubs which I
can try as well as some spare wheels I can put on, but this bloody rain
we've been having here in California is more than I can handle.  The car
has been recently commissioned with all new poly bushes. I do my own
repairs and maintenance on the car.
The vibration starts to occur on slight left turns and continues as I keep
turning. It can be felt through the steering wheel. The Stag btw has power
steering.

Sujit

> Sujit =E2=80=93 Sorry for getting off topic and rambling. Here=E2=80=99s =
a question or
> two. You mentioned that the vibration comes from the front left wheel
> during left turns. Since the vibration comes through the steering, I woul=
d
> suggest that both front wheels could be suspect. Look for any interferenc=
e
> of tires with body or suspension parts. Does the vibration occur at sligh=
t
> steering angles or only when steering sharp left? Don=E2=80=99t discount =
things
> like a cracked wheel or more likely, a bad tire. I have heard first hand
> accounts that even new tires can be defective.
>
>
>
> Alex Thomson
>
>
>
> *From:* Sujit Roy [mailto:[email-masked]]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2023 11:33 AM
> *To:* Alex & Janet Thomson
> *Cc:* Don Hiscock; DAVID MASSEY; [email-masked]
> The rotor has been checked for run out. Only thing left is the bearing an=
d
ent. How
s, 3 balers, four
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any work
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rag, and
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<div dir=3D"ltr">As mentioned, two things, I&#39;m yet to try.=20

I have a few spare hubs which=C2=A0I can try as well as some spare wheels I=
 can put on, but this bloody rain we&#39;ve been having here in California =
is more than I can handle.=C2=A0 The car has been recently=C2=A0commissione=
d with all new poly bushes. I do my own repairs and maintenance on the car.=
<div>The vibration starts to occur on slight left turns and continues as I =
keep turning. It can be felt through the steering=C2=A0wheel. The Stag btw =
has power steering.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div=
><div>Sujit</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" clas=
s=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 9:50=E2=80=AFAM Alex &amp; Janet T=
homson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
et</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex=
"><div class=3D"msg-4742986017356673705"><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div class=3D"=
m_-4742986017356673705WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-family:Calibri,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Sujit =E2=
=80=93 Sorry for getting off topic and rambling. Here=E2=80=99s a question =
or two. You mentioned that the vibration comes from the front left wheel du=
ring left turns. Since the vibration comes through the steering, I would su=
ggest that both front wheels could be suspect. Look for any interference of=
 tires with body or suspension parts. Does the vibration occur at slight st=
eering angles or only when steering sharp left? Don=E2=80=99t discount thin=
gs like a cracked wheel or more likely, a bad tire. I have heard first hand=
 accounts that even new tires can be defective.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:rgb(31,=
73,125)">Alex Thomson <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-family:Calibri,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:rgb(31,73,125)">=
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Sujit=
 Roy [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">tri=
[email-masked]</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 28, 2023 11:33 A=
M<br><b>To:</b> Alex &amp; Janet Thomson<br><b>Cc:</b> Don Hiscock; DAVID M=
ASSEY; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">triumph=
[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Is this symptom I&#39;m ge=
tting indicative of a bad front wheel bearing?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The=
=C2=A0rotor has been checked for run out. Only thing left is the bearing an=
d wheel. The bearing is easy to change, but so far the replies=C2=A0don&#39=
;t=C2=A0answer the original question.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">Sujit<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u>=
</u></p></div></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 7:15=E2=80=AFAM Alex=
 &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><=
blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;bo=
rder-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.=
8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-family:Calibri,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I didn=E2=
=80=99t know that MGs used a spacer sleeve and shims for adjustment. How fu=
n would that be when doing wheel bearing service on all of my farm equipmen=
t. Let=E2=80=99s see =E2=80=93 8 tractors, 7 four-wheel hay wagons, 3 baler=
s, four hay rakes, and the list goes on=E2=80=A6</span><u></u><u></u></p><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,&quot;sans-serif&qu=
ot;;color:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:rgb(31=
,73,125)">Alex Thomson</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-family:Calibri,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:rgb(31,73,125)">=
=E2=80=9973 TR6</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-family:Calibri,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0=
</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size=
:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Don Hiscock=
 [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">don.his=
[email-masked]</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 28, 2023 8:40 AM<br>=
<b>To:</b> DAVID MASSEY<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:aljlthomson@charter=
.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:triu=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Su=
bject:</b> Re: [TR] Is this symptom I&#39;m getting indicative of a bad fro=
nt wheel bearing?</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u><=
/u><u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Yeah, I know...<u></u><u></u=
></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 7:35 AM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;bord=
er-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);pad=
ding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin:5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">S=
till, 101???=C2=A0 Not 100?=C2=A0 Nobody lists a torque setting to +/- 1%=
=C2=A0 Especially back in the day.=C2=A0 With the old torsion-beam torque w=
renches with a linear scale you&#39;re lucky to get +/- 5 lb-ft.</span><u><=
/u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:=
Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></=
div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.=
5pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Dave </span><u></=
u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:A=
rial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;;color:black">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=
=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"m=
argin-bottom:12pt"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>From: Don Hiscock=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">don.hiscock=
@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>To: Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:al=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br=
>Cc: Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bla=
nk">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Sent: Mon, Feb 27, 2023 7:28 pm<br>S=
ubject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom I&#39;m getting indicative of a bad front =
wheel bearing?</span><u></u><u></u></p><div id=3D"m_-4742986017356673705m_1=
52652332295167395m_25085995673554113yiv5715629523"><div><div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;colo=
r:black">It&#39;s not a misprint, unless the missing space between the zero=
 and the ell count.=C2=A0 It&#39;s mainly dyslexic or too-fast reading, or =
perhaps being more familiar with ft-lb convention than lb-ft that led him t=
o see 101.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:bla=
ck">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><div id=3D"m_-4742986017356673705m_15265=
2332295167395m_25085995673554113yiv5715629523yqt74756"><div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-s=
erif&quot;;color:black">On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 7:18 PM Alex &amp; Janet Th=
omson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">aljl=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquot=
e style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left=
:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin:5pt 0in 5pt 4.8p=
t"><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt=
;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Wow! That definitely=
 is a car with a broken leg! I=E2=80=99ve never done any work on an MG but =
I=E2=80=99ve never heard of a pre-load of 101 ft.-lbs. for front wheel bear=
ings. All of our farm tractors, about 10, from a Farmall H to a Deere 4250,=
 use the common specification of =E2=80=9Chand tighten to a slight drag, an=
d then back off to the nearest castellation=E2=80=9D. That=E2=80=99s what I=
 have done on all of our cars and trucks over the years and it seems to wor=
k.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=C2=
=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Ca=
n someone explain the 101 ft.-lb. spec or is that just a misprint?</span><u=
></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0</span><u>=
</u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Alex Thomson</spa=
n><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0</span=
><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font=
-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">From:</spa=
n></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot=
;;color:black"> Triumphs [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
eam.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behal=
f Of </b>Don Hiscock<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 27, 2023 7:21 PM<br><=
b>To:</b> Philip Ethier<br><b>Cc:</b> Triumphs<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] =
Is this symptom I&#39;m getting indicative of a bad front wheel bearing?</s=
pan><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0</sp=
an><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">A=
nd I lost a front wheel on my TR3B at 70 mph on I-70 in 2014.=C2=A0 I&#39;v=
e not quite gotten over that episode yet,=C2=A0 Yes, don&#39;t fool around =
with wheel bearings!</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-s=
erif&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&q=
uot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">The root cause of my wheel-fell-off episo=
de was a restorer who was more used to MG bearing preloads than a TR3&#39;s=
 non-preloaded bearings.=C2=A0 He read this part of the Red Book service in=
structions as 101 lb=C2=B7ft, not 10 lb=C2=B7ft.=C2=A0 Yikes.</span><u></u>=
<u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><a href=3D=
"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/O/i-7mHq3MK.png" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/O/i-=
7mHq3MK.png</a></span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&=
quot;;color:black"><a href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8zPPqt3/0=
/1e459484/XL/i-8zPPqt3-XL.jpg" target=3D"_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com=
/photos/i-8zPPqt3/0/1e459484/XL/i-8zPPqt3-XL.jpg</a></span><u></u><u></u></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10p=
t;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><a href=3D"https://=
photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wBTPGjg/0/5123f2e5/X3/i-wBTPGjg-X3.jpg" target=
=3D"_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wBTPGjg/0/5123f2e5/X3/i-wBT=
PGjg-X3.jpg</a></span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&=
quot;;color:black">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;;color:black">This happened in western Ohio, not too far fro=
m Macy&#39;s Garage as it turned out.=C2=A0 And although Mark and Co. didn&=
#39;t do the work that led to the wheel coming off, they know my car and we=
re able to take it into their shop that afternoon while I flew home.</span>=
<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=
=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;col=
or:black">So listen to the voice of two of us with scary experiences.=C2=A0=
 Take care with wheel bearings.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><d=
iv><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fami=
ly:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 6:01 P=
M Philip Ethier &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><blo=
ckquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;borde=
r-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin:5pt 0in 5p=
t 4.8pt"><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10p=
t;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Don&#39;t mess with=
=C2=A0wheel bearings.=C2=A0 Get it checked out.=C2=A0 I lost a wheel on my =
TR4 on the way home from the VTR in 2005.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Ar=
ial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></di=
v><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-=
family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 5:=
35=E2=80=AFPM Sujit Roy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</span><u></u><u></u></p></=
div></div><blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bot=
tom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;mar=
gin:5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">I have a S=
tag and have checked and changed various components like bottom ball joint =
and top shock mount, but am still experiencing a vibration, through the ste=
ering=C2=A0wheel,=C2=A0 from the left front wheel only when I&#39;m turning=
 left. The car had been fitted with all new poly bushes.</span><u></u><u></=
u></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;=
font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">There is no vibration=
 going straight or when turning right.=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div>=
</div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-f=
amily:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">I plan to swap the wheel wi=
th my spare,=C2=A0 but can a bad bearing cause these symptoms?</span><u></u=
><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">The hub r=
otates smoothly and there is no noise.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div>=
<div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:=
Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></=
div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;fo=
nt-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">The TR6 uses a similar =
vertical link setup as the Stag. The hub bearings=C2=A0are tapered.</span><=
u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=
=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;col=
or:black">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;;color:black">Sujit=C2=A0<br clear=3D"all"></span><u></u><u></u></p><=
/div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fa=
mily:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u><=
/p></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;fo=
nt-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">-- </span><u></u><u></u=
></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10pt;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Sujit Roy<br=
>Cupertino, California</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div style=
=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10p=
t;font-family:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><br><a href=3D"http=
s://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/" target=3D"_blank">https://triumphstagbl=
og.wordpress.com/</a></span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div=
></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-famil=
y:Arial,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">** <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@a=
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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2023 19:08:47 +0000 (UTC)

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 Swap the wheels right and left and see it the symptom changes sides or sta=
ys the same.
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Dave=20

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-----Original Message-----
From: Alex & Janet Thomson <[email-masked]>
To: 'Sujit Roy' <[email-masked]>
Cc: 'Don Hiscock' <[email-masked]>; 'DAVID MASSEY' <[email-masked]=
om>; [email-masked]
Sent: Tue, Feb 28, 2023 11:50 am
Subject: RE: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front whe=
el bearing?

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 {}-->Sujit =E2=80=93 Sorry for getting off topic and rambling. Here=E2=80=
=99s a question or two. You mentioned that the vibration comes from the fro=
nt left wheel during left turns. Since the vibration comes through the stee=
ring, I would suggest that both front wheels could be suspect. Look for any=
 interference of tires with body or suspension parts. Does the vibration oc=
cur at slight steering angles or only when steering sharp left? Don=E2=80=
=99t discount things like a cracked wheel or more likely, a bad tire. I hav=
e heard first hand accounts that even new tires can be defective. =C2=A0Ale=
x Thomson  =C2=A0From: Sujit Roy [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 11:33 AM
To: Alex & Janet Thomson
Cc: Don Hiscock; DAVID MASSEY; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front whe=
el bearing? =C2=A0The=C2=A0rotor has been checked for run out. Only thing l=
eft is the bearing and wheel. The bearing is easy to change, but so far the=
 replies=C2=A0don't=C2=A0answer the original question.Sujit =C2=A0 =C2=A0On=
 Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 7:15=E2=80=AFAM Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson@cha=
rter.net> wrote:
I didn=E2=80=99t know that MGs used a spacer sleeve and shims for adjustmen=
t. How fun would that be when doing wheel bearing service on all of my farm=
 equipment. Let=E2=80=99s see =E2=80=93 8 tractors, 7 four-wheel hay wagons=
, 3 balers, four hay rakes, and the list goes on=E2=80=A6=C2=A0Alex Thomson=
=E2=80=9973 TR6=C2=A0From: Don Hiscock [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 8:40 AM
To: DAVID MASSEY
Cc: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front whe=
el bearing?=C2=A0Yeah, I know...=C2=A0On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 7:35 AM DAVID=
 MASSEY <[email-masked]> wrote:
Still, 101???=C2=A0 Not 100?=C2=A0 Nobody lists a torque setting to +/- 1%=
=C2=A0 Especially back in the day.=C2=A0 With the old torsion-beam torque w=
renches with a linear scale you're lucky to get +/- 5 lb-ft.=C2=A0Dave =C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0-----Original Message-----
From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]>
To: Alex & Janet Thomson <[email-masked]>
Cc: Triumphs <[email-masked]>
Sent: Mon, Feb 27, 2023 7:28 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front whe=
el bearing?It's not a misprint, unless the missing space between the zero a=
nd the ell count.=C2=A0 It's mainly dyslexic or too-fast reading, or perhap=
s being more familiar with ft-lb convention than lb-ft that led him to see =
101.=C2=A0On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 7:18 PM Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson=
@charter.net> wrote:
Wow! That definitely is a car with a broken leg! I=E2=80=99ve never done an=
y work on an MG but I=E2=80=99ve never heard of a pre-load of 101 ft.-lbs. =
for front wheel bearings. All of our farm tractors, about 10, from a Farmal=
l H to a Deere 4250, use the common specification of =E2=80=9Chand tighten =
to a slight drag, and then back off to the nearest castellation=E2=80=9D. T=
hat=E2=80=99s what I have done on all of our cars and trucks over the years=
 and it seems to work.=C2=A0Can someone explain the 101 ft.-lb. spec or is =
that just a misprint?=C2=A0Alex Thomson=C2=A0From: Triumphs [mailto:triumph=
[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Don Hiscock
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2023 7:21 PM
To: Philip Ethier
Cc: Triumphs
Subject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front whe=
el bearing?=C2=A0And I lost a front wheel on my TR3B at 70 mph on I-70 in 2=
014.=C2=A0 I've not quite gotten over that episode yet,=C2=A0 Yes, don't fo=
ol around with wheel bearings!=C2=A0The root cause of my wheel-fell-off epi=
sode was a restorer who was more used to MG bearing preloads than a TR3's n=
on-preloaded bearings.=C2=A0 He read this part of the Red Book service inst=
ructions as 101 lb=C2=B7ft, not 10 lb=C2=B7ft.=C2=A0 Yikes.https://photos.s=
mugmug.com/photos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/O/i-7mHq3MK.pnghttps://photos.smugmu=
g.com/photos/i-8zPPqt3/0/1e459484/XL/i-8zPPqt3-XL.jpghttps://photos.smugmug=
.com/photos/i-wBTPGjg/0/5123f2e5/X3/i-wBTPGjg-X3.jpg=C2=A0This happened in =
western Ohio, not too far from Macy's Garage as it turned out.=C2=A0 And al=
though Mark and Co. didn't do the work that led to the wheel coming off, th=
ey know my car and were able to take it into their shop that afternoon whil=
e I flew home.=C2=A0So listen to the voice of two of us with scary experien=
ces.=C2=A0 Take care with wheel bearings.=C2=A0On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 6:01=
 PM Philip Ethier <[email-masked]> wrote:
Don't mess with=C2=A0wheel bearings.=C2=A0 Get it checked out.=C2=A0 I lost=
 a wheel on my TR4 on the way home from the VTR in 2005.=C2=A0On Mon, Feb 2=
7, 2023 at 5:35=E2=80=AFPM Sujit Roy <[email-masked]> wrote:
I have a Stag and have checked and changed various components like bottom b=
all joint and top shock mount, but am still experiencing a vibration, throu=
gh the steering=C2=A0wheel,=C2=A0 from the left front wheel only when I'm t=
urning left. The car had been fitted with all new poly bushes.There is no v=
ibration going straight or when turning right.=C2=A0I plan to swap the whee=
l with my spare,=C2=A0 but can a bad bearing cause these symptoms?The hub r=
otates smoothly and there is no noise.=C2=A0The TR6 uses a similar vertical=
 link setup as the Stag. The hub bearings=C2=A0are tapered.=C2=A0=C2=A0Suji=
t=C2=A0
=C2=A0-- Sujit Roy
Cupertino, California
https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/** [email-masked] **

@gmail.com

[email-masked]

[email-masked]

[email-masked]

 =C2=A0-- Sujit Roy
Cupertino, California
https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/
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m changes sides or stays the same.</font><br>
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 size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: 'Sujit Roy' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: 'Don Hiscock' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; 'DAVID MASSEY' &lt;dave1ma=
[email-masked]&gt;; [email-masked]<br>
Sent: Tue, Feb 28, 2023 11:50 am<br>
Subject: RE: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front whe=
el bearing?<br>
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<div class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;">Sujit =
=E2=80=93 Sorry for getting off topic and rambling. Here=E2=80=99s a questi=
on or two. You mentioned that the vibration comes from the front left wheel=
 during left turns. Since the vibration comes through the steering, I would=
 suggest that both front wheels could be suspect. Look for any interference=
 of tires with body or suspension parts. Does the vibration occur at slight=
 steering angles or only when steering sharp left? Don=E2=80=99t discount t=
hings like a cracked wheel or more likely, a bad tire. I have heard first h=
and accounts that even new tires can be defective.</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;"> &nbsp=
;</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;">Alex T=
homson </span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;"> &nbsp=
;</span></div>

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<div class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">=
From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> Sujit Roy [mailto:triump=
[email-masked]] <br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 28, 2023=
 11:33 AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> Alex &amp; Janet Thomson<br clear=3D=
"none"><b>Cc:</b> Don Hiscock; DAVID MASSEY; [email-masked]<br cle=
ar=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative=
 of a bad front wheel bearing?</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal">The&nbsp;rotor has been checked for r=
un out. Only thing left is the bearing and wheel. The bearing is easy to ch=
ange, but so far the replies&nbsp;don't&nbsp;answer the original question.<=
/div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal">Sujit</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal">On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 7:15=E2=80=AF=
AM Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" sha=
pe=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote=
:</div>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F49=
7D;">I didn=E2=80=99t know that MGs used a spacer sleeve and shims for adju=
stment. How fun would that be when doing wheel bearing service on all of my=
 farm equipment. Let=E2=80=99s see =E2=80=93 8 tractors, 7 four-wheel hay w=
agons, 3 balers, four hay rakes, and the list goes on=E2=80=A6</span></div>

<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F49=
7D;">&nbsp;</span></div>

<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F49=
7D;">Alex Thomson</span></div>

<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F49=
7D;">=E2=80=9973 TR6</span></div>

<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F49=
7D;">&nbsp;</span></div>

<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> Don Hiscock [=
mailto:<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:don.hiscock@gm=
ail.com">[email-masked]</a>] <br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday=
, February 28, 2023 8:40 AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> DAVID MASSEY<br cl=
ear=3D"none"><b>Cc:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"re=
ct" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>; <a rel=3D"nofoll=
ow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">triumphs@a=
utox.team.net</a><br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Is this sympto=
m I'm getting indicative of a bad front wheel bearing?</span></div>

<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal">&nbsp;</div>

<div>
<div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal">Yeah, I know...</div>
</div>
</div>

<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal">&nbsp;</div>

<div>
<div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal">On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 7:=
35 AM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rec=
t" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:d=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-=
bottom:5.0pt;">
<div>
<div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black=
;">Still, 101???&nbsp; Not 100?&nbsp; Nobody lists a torque setting to +/- =
1%&nbsp; Especially back in the day.&nbsp; With the old torsion-beam torque=
 wrenches with a linear scale you're lucky to get +/- 5 lb-ft.</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black=
;">&nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
3.5pt;color:black;">Dave </span></div>
</div>

<div>
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;">&nbsp;</span></div>
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 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">-----Original Message-----<br clea=
r=3D"none">From: Don Hiscock &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" sh=
ape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=
=3D"none">To: Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener nore=
ferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D=
"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Cc: Triumphs &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener norefe=
rrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_=
blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt;<br clear=3D"none">Sent: Mon, Feb 27, 2023 7:28 pm<br clear=3D"none">Sub=
ject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front wheel =
bearing?</span></div>

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;">It's not a misprint, unless the missing space between the zero and the e=
ll count.&nbsp; It's mainly dyslexic or too-fast reading, or perhaps being =
more familiar with ft-lb convention than lb-ft that led him to see 101.</sp=
an></div>
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0.0pt;color:black;">On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 7:18 PM Alex &amp; Janet Thomso=
n &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:aljlthomson@c=
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<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;color:black;">Wow! That definitely is a car with a broken leg! I=E2=
=80=99ve never done any work on an MG but I=E2=80=99ve never heard of a pre=
-load of 101 ft.-lbs. for front wheel bearings. All of our farm tractors, a=
bout 10, from a Farmall H to a Deere 4250, use the common specification of =
=E2=80=9Chand tighten to a slight drag, and then back off to the nearest ca=
stellation=E2=80=9D. That=E2=80=99s what I have done on all of our cars and=
 trucks over the years and it seems to work.</span></div>
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<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;color:black;">Can someone explain the 101 ft.-lb. spec or is that jus=
t a misprint?</span></div>
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<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;color:black;">Alex Thomson</span></div>
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<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;color:black;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;colo=
r:black;"> Triumphs [mailto:<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=
=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bla=
nk" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">triumphs-bounces@autox.=
team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Don Hiscock<br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b=
ng?</span></div>
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<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;color:black;">And I lost a front wheel on my TR3B at 70 mph on I-70 i=
n 2014.&nbsp; I've not quite gotten over that episode yet,&nbsp; Yes, don't=
 fool around with wheel bearings!</span></div>
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<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;color:black;">The root cause of my wheel-fell-off episode was a resto=
rer who was more used to MG bearing preloads than a TR3's non-preloaded bea=
rings.&nbsp; He read this part of the Red Book service instructions as 101 =
lb=C2=B7ft, not 10 lb=C2=B7ft.&nbsp; Yikes.</span></div>
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<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;color:black;">This happened in western Ohio, not too far from Macy's =
Garage as it turned out.&nbsp; And although Mark and Co. didn't do the work=
 that led to the wheel coming off, they know my car and were able to take i=
t into their shop that afternoon while I flew home.</span></div>
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0.0pt;color:black;">So listen to the voice of two of us with scary experien=
ces.&nbsp; Take care with wheel bearings.</span></div>
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0.0pt;color:black;">On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 6:01 PM Philip Ethier &lt;<a re=
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0.0pt;color:black;">Don't mess with&nbsp;wheel bearings.&nbsp; Get it check=
ed out.&nbsp; I lost a wheel on my TR4 on the way home from the VTR in 2005=
.</span></div>
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n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-=
bottom:5.0pt;">
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<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;color:black;">I have a Stag and have checked and changed various comp=
onents like bottom ball joint and top shock mount, but am still experiencin=
g a vibration, through the steering&nbsp;wheel,&nbsp; from the left front w=
heel only when I'm turning left. The car had been fitted with all new poly =
bushes.</span></div>
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<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;color:black;">There is no vibration going straight or when turning ri=
ght.&nbsp;</span></div>
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<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;color:black;">I plan to swap the wheel with my spare,&nbsp; but can a=
 bad bearing cause these symptoms?</span></div>
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<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;color:black;">The hub rotates smoothly and there is no noise.</span><=
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<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv9868713568MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;color:black;">The TR6 uses a similar vertical link setup as the Stag.=
 The hub bearings&nbsp;are tapered.</span></div>
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RE-read that CLOSELY!!!  That is NOT 101 =E2=80=9Cfoot pounds=E2=80=9D, =
it is 10lbs. ft.  or TEN =E2=80=9Cpounds foot=E2=80=9D!!  That is an =
abbreviation lbs.  for pounds.

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That 10 foot pounds =E2=80=9Cseats=E2=80=9D the bearing, then you back =
off the castle nut as specified and recheck runout.

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If you torque those bearings to 100 ft pounds you will break the =
bearings and probably other stuff including overstressing the small =
threads under the castle nut.

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Glenn Merrell, CAP

StagByTriumph Garage

210 Bass Circle

Lafayette, Colorado USA 80026-1811=20

+1 (303) 817-8559 mobile

aka Stag-By-Triumph Garage (on FaceBook)

Remember, =E2=80=9Cthe BEST trophies are: Miles on the Odometer; Stone =
chips in the paint; and DEAD BUGS on the windscreen =E2=80=A6 with the =
occasional smell of manure!=E2=80=9D

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From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of DAVID =
MASSEY
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To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front =
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To: Alex & Janet Thomson <[email-masked] =
Sent: Mon, Feb 27, 2023 7:28 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front =
wheel bearing?

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From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked] =
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2023 7:21 PM
To: Philip Ethier
Cc: Triumphs
Subject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front =
wheel bearing?

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ah GUYS!!! , <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>RE-read that =
CLOSELY!!!=C2=A0 That is <i>NOT 101 =E2=80=9Cfoot pounds=E2=80=9D</i>, =
it is <b>10</b><u>lbs. ft</u>.=C2=A0 or TEN =E2=80=9Cpounds =
foot=E2=80=9D!!=C2=A0 That is an abbreviation lbs.=C2=A0 for =
pounds.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>That 10 foot pounds =E2=80=9Cseats=E2=80=9D the =
bearing, then you back off the castle nut as specified and recheck =
runout.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>If you torque those bearings to 100 ft pounds you will =
break the bearings and probably other stuff including overstressing the =
small threads under the castle nut.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Glenn Merrell, CAP<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>StagByTriumph =
Garage<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>210 Bass Circle<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Lafayette, Colorado USA =
80026-1811 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>+1 (303) 817-8559 mobile<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>aka Stag-By-Triumph =
Garage (<i>on FaceBook</i>)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Remember, =E2=80=9Cthe =
BEST trophies are: Miles on the Odometer; Stone chips in the paint; and =
DEAD BUGS on the windscreen =E2=80=A6 with the occasional smell of =
manure!=E2=80=9D<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>DAVID =
MASSEY<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 28, 2023 6:36 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
[email-masked]; [email-masked]<br><b>Cc:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm =
getting indicative of a bad front wheel bearing?<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Sti=
ll, 101???&nbsp; Not 100?&nbsp; Nobody lists a torque setting to +/- =
1%&nbsp; Especially back in the day.&nbsp; With the old torsion-beam =
torque wrenches with a linear scale you're lucky to get +/- 5 =
lb-ft.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dav=
e </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>---=
--Original Message-----<br>From: Don Hiscock &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>To=
: Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<b=
r>Cc: Triumphs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<b=
r>Sent: Mon, Feb 27, 2023 7:28 pm<br>Subject: Re: [TR] Is this symptom =
I'm getting indicative of a bad front wheel =
bearing?<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=3Dyiv5715629523><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>It'=
s not a misprint, unless the missing space between the zero and the ell =
count.&nbsp; It's mainly dyslexic or too-fast reading, or perhaps being =
more familiar with ft-lb convention than lb-ft that led him to see =
101.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div id=3Dyiv5715629523yqt74756><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>On =
Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 7:18 PM Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>W=
ow! That definitely is a car with a broken leg! I=E2=80=99ve never done =
any work on an MG but I=E2=80=99ve never heard of a pre-load of 101 =
ft.-lbs. for front wheel bearings. All of our farm tractors, about 10, =
from a Farmall H to a Deere 4250, use the common specification of =
=E2=80=9Chand tighten to a slight drag, and then back off to the nearest =
castellation=E2=80=9D. That=E2=80=99s what I have done on all of our =
cars and trucks over the years and it seems to work.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>&=
nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>C=
an someone explain the 101 ft.-lb. spec or is that just a =
misprint?</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>&=
nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>A=
lex Thomson</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>&=
nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Fro=
m:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> =
Triumphs [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Don Hiscock<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 27, 2023 7:21 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Philip Ethier<br><b>Cc:</b> Triumphs<br><b>Subject:</b> =
Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front wheel =
bearing?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>And=
 I lost a front wheel on my TR3B at 70 mph on I-70 in 2014.&nbsp; I've =
not quite gotten over that episode yet,&nbsp; Yes, don't fool around =
with wheel bearings!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The=
 root cause of my wheel-fell-off episode was a restorer who was more =
used to MG bearing preloads than a TR3's non-preloaded bearings.&nbsp; =
He read this part of the Red Book service instructions as 101 =
lb=C2=B7ft, not 10 lb=C2=B7ft.&nbsp; =
Yikes.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><a =
href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/O/i-7mHq3M=
K.png" =
target=3D"_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-7mHq3MK/0/07d96589/=
O/i-7mHq3MK.png</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><a =
href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8zPPqt3/0/1e459484/XL/i-8zPPq=
t3-XL.jpg" =
target=3D"_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8zPPqt3/0/1e459484/=
XL/i-8zPPqt3-XL.jpg</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><a =
href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wBTPGjg/0/5123f2e5/X3/i-wBTPG=
jg-X3.jpg" =
target=3D"_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wBTPGjg/0/5123f2e5/=
X3/i-wBTPGjg-X3.jpg</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Thi=
s happened in western Ohio, not too far from Macy's Garage as it turned =
out.&nbsp; And although Mark and Co. didn't do the work that led to the =
wheel coming off, they know my car and were able to take it into their =
shop that afternoon while I flew =
home.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>So =
listen to the voice of two of us with scary experiences.&nbsp; Take care =
with wheel bearings.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>On =
Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 6:01 PM Philip Ethier &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Don=
't mess with&nbsp;wheel bearings.&nbsp; Get it checked out.&nbsp; I lost =
a wheel on my TR4 on the way home from the VTR in =
2005.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>On =
Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 5:35=E2=80=AFPM Sujit Roy &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I =
have a Stag and have checked and changed various components like bottom =
ball joint and top shock mount, but am still experiencing a vibration, =
through the steering&nbsp;wheel,&nbsp; from the left front wheel only =
when I'm turning left. The car had been fitted with all new poly =
bushes.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The=
re is no vibration going straight or when turning =
right.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I =
plan to swap the wheel with my spare,&nbsp; but can a bad bearing cause =
these symptoms?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The=
 hub rotates smoothly and there is no =
noise.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The=
 TR6 uses a similar vertical link setup as the Stag. The hub =
bearings&nbsp;are tapered.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Suj=
it&nbsp;<br clear=3Dall><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>-- =
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 01:19:12 +0000 (UTC)

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 try switching the front wheels.does the problem them move to right hand tu=
rns?

Frank
    On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:30:23 AM PST, Dennis and Bridget <d=
[email-masked]> wrote: =20
=20
 From a non-technical standpoint, I=E2=80=99ll share an experience I had ma=
ny moons ago=E2=80=A6I had the exact symptoms you describe on an Audi Fox w=
e owned. =C2=A0Took it to the local dealer who diagnosed a bad left front w=
heel bearing. I replaced the wheel bearing and the symptoms disappeared. =
=C2=A0And yes, I agree with what others have written: Wheel bearings and th=
e related adjustments are critical! =C2=A0If you do replace front wheel bea=
rings, do both sides, and do adjust as per the manual.Just MHO.Cheers, Denn=
is

On Feb 28, 2023, at 10:50 AM, Alex & Janet Thomson <[email-masked]=
> wrote:

Sujit =E2=80=93 Sorry for getting off topic and rambling. Here=E2=80=99s a =
question or two. You mentioned that the vibration comes from the front left=
 wheel during left turns. Since the vibration comes through the steering, I=
 would suggest that both front wheels could be suspect. Look for any interf=
erence of tires with body or suspension parts. Does the vibration occur at =
slight steering angles or only when steering sharp left? Don=E2=80=99t disc=
ount things like a cracked wheel or more likely, a bad tire. I have heard f=
irst hand accounts that even new tires can be defective. =C2=A0Alex Thomson=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0From:=C2=A0Sujit Roy [mailto:[email-masked]]=C2=A0
Sent:=C2=A0Tuesday, February 28, 2023 11:33 AM
To:=C2=A0Alex & Janet Thomson
Cc:=C2=A0Don Hiscock; DAVID MASSEY; [email-masked]
Subject:=C2=A0Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad fron=
t wheel bearing? =C2=A0The=C2=A0rotor has been checked for run out. Only th=
ing left is the bearing and wheel. The bearing is easy to change, but so fa=
r the replies=C2=A0don't=C2=A0answer the original question.Sujit =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 7:15=E2=80=AFAM Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomso=
[email-masked]> wrote:
I didn=E2=80=99t know that MGs used a spacer sleeve and shims for adjustmen=
t. How fun would that be when doing wheel bearing service on all of my farm=
 equipment. Let=E2=80=99s see =E2=80=93 8 tractors, 7 four-wheel hay wagons=
, 3 balers, four hay rakes, and the list goes on=E2=80=A6=C2=A0Alex Thomson=
=E2=80=9973 TR6=C2=A0From:=C2=A0Don Hiscock [mailto:[email-masked]]=
=C2=A0
Sent:=C2=A0Tuesday, February 28, 2023 8:40 AM
To:=C2=A0DAVID MASSEY
Cc:=C2=[email-masked];=C2=[email-masked]
Subject:=C2=A0Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad fron=
t wheel bearing?=C2=A0Yeah, I know...=C2=A0
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">try switching the front whee=
ls.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">does the problem them move =
to right hand turns?</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div>=
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                    On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:30:23 AM PST, Denni=
s and Bridget &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp8f61c00eyiv9913865782"><div>From a non-t=
echnical standpoint, I=E2=80=99ll share an experience I had many moons ago=
=E2=80=A6I had the exact symptoms you describe on an Audi Fox we owned. &nb=
sp;Took it to the local dealer who diagnosed a bad left front wheel bearing=
. I replaced the wheel bearing and the symptoms disappeared. &nbsp;<div>And=
 yes, I agree with what others have written: Wheel bearings and the related=
 adjustments are critical! &nbsp;If you do replace front wheel bearings, do=
 both sides, and do adjust as per the manual.</div><div>Just MHO.</div><div=
>Cheers, Dennis<br clear=3D"none"><div><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><div id=3D"ydp8f61c00eyiv9913865782yqtfd17788" class=3D"ydp8f61c0=
0eyiv9913865782yqt3187365751"><div>On Feb 28, 2023, at 10:50 AM, Alex &amp;=
 Janet Thomson &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:</div><br clear=3D"non=
e" class=3D"ydp8f61c00eyiv9913865782Apple-interchange-newline"><div></div><=
/div></blockquote></div></div></div><div id=3D"ydp8f61c00eyiv9913865782yqtf=
d83297" class=3D"ydp8f61c00eyiv9913865782yqt3187365751"></div><div><div id=
=3D"ydp8f61c00eyiv9913865782yqtfd45134" class=3D"ydp8f61c00eyiv9913865782yq=
t3187365751"><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:=
normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform=
:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;" class=3D"y=
dp8f61c00eyiv9913865782WordSection1"><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;=
font-size:12pt;font-family:New serif;"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri, =
sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125);">Sujit =E2=80=93 Sorry for getting off t=
opic and rambling. Here=E2=80=99s a question or two. You mentioned that the=
 vibration comes from the front left wheel during left turns. Since the vib=
ration comes through the steering, I would suggest that both front wheels c=
ould be suspect. Look for any interference of tires with body or suspension=
 parts. Does the vibration occur at slight steering angles or only when ste=
ering sharp left? Don=E2=80=99t discount things like a cracked wheel or mor=
e likely, a bad tire. I have heard first hand accounts that even new tires =
can be defective.</span></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-si=
ze:12pt;font-family:New serif;"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri, sans-se=
rif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125);"> &nbsp;</span></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0=
in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:New serif;"><span style=3D"font-fami=
ly:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125);">Alex Thomson<span class=3D"=
ydp8f61c00eyiv9913865782Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></div><d=
iv style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:New serif;">=
<span style=3D"font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125);"> &n=
bsp;</span></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-=
family:New serif;"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma, san=
s-serif;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,=
 sans-serif;"><span class=3D"ydp8f61c00eyiv9913865782Apple-converted-space"=
>&nbsp;</span>Sujit Roy [mailto:[email-masked]]<span class=3D"ydp8f6=
1c00eyiv9913865782Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br clear=3D"none"><b=
>Sent:</b><span class=3D"ydp8f61c00eyiv9913865782Apple-converted-space">&nb=
sp;</span>Tuesday, February 28, 2023 11:33 AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b><=
span class=3D"ydp8f61c00eyiv9913865782Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>A=
lex &amp; Janet Thomson<br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc:</b><span class=3D"ydp8f61c=
00eyiv9913865782Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Don Hiscock; DAVID MASS=
EY; [email-masked]<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b><span class=3D=
"ydp8f61c00eyiv9913865782Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [TR] Is th=
is symptom I'm getting indicative of a bad front wheel bearing?</span></div=
><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:New serif=
;"> &nbsp;</div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;f=
ont-family:New serif;">The&nbsp;rotor has been checked for run out. Only th=
ing left is the bearing and wheel. The bearing is easy to change, but so fa=
r the replies&nbsp;don't&nbsp;answer the original question.</div><div><div =
style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:New serif;">Suj=
it</div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-fami=
ly:New serif;"> &nbsp;</div></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:New serif;"> &nbsp;</div><div><div><div=
 style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:New serif;">On=
 Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 7:15=E2=80=AFAM Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a shape=
=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color:purple;tex=
t-decoration:underline;" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">aljlthomson@cha=
rter.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div></div><blockquote style=3D"border-style:none n=
one none solid;border-left-width:1pt;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);p=
adding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;" type=3D"cite"><=
div><div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-fam=
ily:New serif;"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31=
, 73, 125);">I didn=E2=80=99t know that MGs used a spacer sleeve and shims =
for adjustment. How fun would that be when doing wheel bearing service on a=
ll of my farm equipment. Let=E2=80=99s see =E2=80=93 8 tractors, 7 four-whe=
el hay wagons, 3 balers, four hay rakes, and the list goes on=E2=80=A6</spa=
n></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Ne=
w serif;"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, =
125);">&nbsp;</span></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:1=
2pt;font-family:New serif;"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;=
color:rgb(31, 73, 125);">Alex Thomson</span></div><div style=3D"margin:0in =
0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:New serif;"><span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125);">=E2=80=9973 TR6</span></di=
v><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:New seri=
f;"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125);"=
>&nbsp;</span></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;fo=
nt-family:New serif;"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma, =
sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Taho=
ma, sans-serif;"><span class=3D"ydp8f61c00eyiv9913865782Apple-converted-spa=
ce">&nbsp;</span>Don Hiscock [mailto:<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:don.h=
[email-masked]" style=3D"color:purple;text-decoration:underline;" rel=3D"=
nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>]<span class=3D"ydp8f6=
1c00eyiv9913865782Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br clear=3D"none"><b=
>Sent:</b><span class=3D"ydp8f61c00eyiv9913865782Apple-converted-space">&nb=
sp;</span>Tuesday, February 28, 2023 8:40 AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b><s=
pan class=3D"ydp8f61c00eyiv9913865782Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>DA=
VID MASSEY<br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc:</b><span class=3D"ydp8f61c00eyiv9913865=
782Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:alj=
[email-masked]" style=3D"color:purple;text-decoration:underline;" rel=
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782Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [TR] Is this symptom I'm getting=
 indicative of a bad front wheel bearing?</span></div><div style=3D"margin:=
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