Subject: Re: [TR] KROIL

From: bill beecher <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 17:31:34 -0600

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Yeah, expensive stuff alright.   If you look on eBay there are a number of d=
ifferent sizes, spray and liquid, you could buy a little less but cost per o=
unce is still pretty close. =20
Bill

=E2=80=9CShoot low sheriff, she=E2=80=99s riding a shetland=E2=80=9D =E2=80=A6=
B.Wills

On Jan 23, 2023, at 5:27 PM, Sujit Roy <[email-masked]> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF
I'm down to my last spray can of this stuff. It lasted a long time, but I ju=
st got a shock on the price of a new 16 OZ can at $36 off Amazon. I'm in Cal=
ifornia and serious rust isn't an issue.
It is good, but is there something cheaper that folks are happy with? Please=
 don't recommend WD40. I've used JB80 before someone recommended Kroil, but t=
hat is about 23$ for a similar size can.

Sujit

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Yeah, expensive stuff alright. &nbsp; If yo=
u look on eBay there are a number of different sizes, spray and liquid, you c=
ould buy a little less but cost per ounce is still pretty close. &nbsp;<div>=
Bill<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">=E2=80=9CShoot low sheriff, she=E2=80=99s ridin=
g a shetland=E2=80=9D =E2=80=A6B.Wills</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jan 23, 2=
023, at 5:27 PM, Sujit Roy &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr">I'm down to my last spray can of=
 this stuff. It lasted a long time, but I just got a shock on the price of a=
 new 16 OZ can at $36 off Amazon. I'm in&nbsp;California&nbsp;and serious ru=
st isn't an issue.<div>It is good, but is there something&nbsp;cheaper that f=
olks&nbsp;are happy with? Please don't&nbsp;recommend WD40. I've used JB80 b=
efore someone recommended Kroil, but that is about 23$ for a similar size ca=
n.</div><div><br></div><div>Sujit<br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><di=
v dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><=
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Try superzilla.

Bob

On 1/23/23 5:56 PM, Sujit Roy wrote:
> I'm down to my last spray can of this stuff. It lasted a long time, 
> but I just got a shock on the price of a new 16 OZ can at $36 off 
> Amazon. I'm in California and serious rust isn't an issue.
> It is good, but is there something cheaper that folks are happy with? 
> Please don't recommend WD40. I've used JB80 before someone recommended 
> Kroil, but that is about 23$ for a similar size can.
>
> Sujit
>
> -- 
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> Cupertino, California
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        lasted a long time, but I just got a shock on the price of a new
        16 OZ can at $36 off Amazon. I'm in California and serious rust
        isn't an issue.
        <div>It is good, but is there something cheaper that folks are
          happy with? Please don't recommend WD40. I've used JB80 before
          someone recommended Kroil, but that is about 23$ for a similar
          size can.</div>
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        <div>Sujit<br clear="all">
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Kroil is hard to beat and came highly recommended by a mechanic.  I=E2=80=99=
ve got a spray can of it and a can with a plastic tip like the old 3 & 1 =
oil which if I=E2=80=99m someone careful, I don=E2=80=99t waste as much.

Rye

> On Jan 23, 2023, at 2:56 PM, Sujit Roy <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> I'm down to my last spray can of this stuff. It lasted a long time, =
but I just got a shock on the price of a new 16 OZ can at $36 off =
Amazon. I'm in California and serious rust isn't an issue.
> It is good, but is there something cheaper that folks are happy with? =
Please don't recommend WD40. I've used JB80 before someone recommended =
Kroil, but that is about 23$ for a similar size can.
>=20
> Sujit
>=20
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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Kroil=
 is hard to beat and came highly recommended by a mechanic. &nbsp;I=E2=80=99=
ve got a spray can of it and a can with a plastic tip like the old 3 =
&amp; 1 oil which if I=E2=80=99m someone careful, I don=E2=80=99t waste =
as much.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Rye<br =
class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Jan 23, 2023, at 2:56 PM, Sujit Roy &lt;<a =
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class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"">I'm down to my last spray can of this stuff. It lasted a long =
time, but I just got a shock on the price of a new 16 OZ can at $36 off =
Amazon. I'm in&nbsp;California&nbsp;and serious rust isn't an issue.<div =
class=3D"">It is good, but is there something&nbsp;cheaper that =
folks&nbsp;are happy with? Please don't&nbsp;recommend WD40. I've used =
JB80 before someone recommended Kroil, but that is about 23$ for a =
similar size can.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Sujit<br clear=3D"all" class=3D""><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div>-- <br class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
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From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 18:22:48 -0600

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Yeah, Kroil pricing has gone nuts.

It=E2=80=99s the best I=E2=80=99ve used (and I luckily have two almost-full=
 cans). PB
Blaster is my next favorite. It=E2=80=99s OK.

On Monday, January 23, 2023, Sujit Roy <[email-masked]> wrote:

> I'm down to my last spray can of this stuff. It lasted a long time, but I
> just got a shock on the price of a new 16 OZ can at $36 off Amazon. I'm
> in California and serious rust isn't an issue.

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Yeah, Kroil pricing has gone nuts.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>It=E2=80=99s th=
e best I=E2=80=99ve used (and I luckily have two almost-full cans). PB Blas=
ter is my next favorite. It=E2=80=99s OK.=C2=A0<br><br>On Monday, January 2=
3, 2023, Sujit Roy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">triumphstag=
@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr=
">I&#39;m down to my last spray can of this stuff. It lasted a long time, b=
ut I just got a shock on the price of a new 16 OZ can at $36 off Amazon. I&=
#39;m in=C2=A0California=C2=A0and serious rust isn&#39;t an issue.<div>It i=
s good, but is there something=C2=A0cheaper that folks=C2=A0are happy with?=
 Please don&#39;t=C2=A0recommend WD40. I&#39;ve used JB80 before someone re=
commended Kroil, but that is about 23$ for a similar size can.</div><div><b=
r></div><div>Sujit<br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" =
data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Sujit Roy<br>Cuper=
tino, California</div><div><br><a href=3D"https://triumphstagblog.wordpress=
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From: Hoyt Duff <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 19:50:40 -0500

PB Blaster as a penetrant is a workable commercial substitute for
KROIL, but a 50/50 mix of acetone and ATF is the BEST and superior to
KROIL.

I like Boeshield for corrosion protection on machined surface.

-- 
Hoyt

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From: "Alex & Janet Thomson" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 20:24:14 -0500

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Well, Kroil is good, but not that good. I just looked at my Kano Lab =
folder and I see I paid $8.20 per large can for a case of 12 back in =
2007. I believe they were the large, 16 oz. cans but I could be wrong. =
Naturally, over the years, things got more expensive. I also bought a =
case of something called Weatherpruf which was a non-volatile, cosmoline =
type of coating to keep items from rusting over long term storage. That =
was a good product and I see they no longer offer it. That=E2=80=99s too =
bad. I also see that the company no longer sells direct to the consumer, =
but only through distributors. As we all know, anything from Amazon will =
be sold at a premium. From their (Kano) website, it appears that the =
company was sold a couple of years ago, probably the reason for so many =
changes. One thing that really is aggravating  is when you buy a bunch =
of spray cans and then in time, some of them loose their propellant. Now =
you have full cans with no easy way of getting the product out. I think =
the Kroil cans had an overly high incidence of that happening.=20

=20

I bought a gallon can in 2017 =E2=80=93 it was $53 for one can that you =
could use in either a pump style sprayer or a pressurized sprayer. That =
was a good value but I made the mistake of buying the Silikroil version. =
I found out in a hurry that if you ever want to paint something that you =
used Silikroil on, the paint would just bead up, no matter how much you =
pressure washed the item. I=E2=80=99ll never buy that again. =
It=E2=80=99s also over $100 per gallon now. Based on their current =
marketing strategy, I don=E2=80=99t think I will be writing any more =
checks to Kano Labs for Kroil.

=20

I bought a gallon of PB Blaster along with a metal bodied pump sprayer =
for about $30 at NAPA store. That was and is a good value and =
that=E2=80=99s what I would suggest. I think the PB Blaster has more of =
a residual lubricating effect and I find that works well on things like =
ratchet binders and things like that. It is also a credible penetrant, =
especially with a bit of heat. Plus, if you are at a local store to buy =
that sort of thing, you don=E2=80=99t experience what amounts to =
incredibly high shipping costs.

=20

I agree =E2=80=93 I don=E2=80=99t use WD40 much. I have found it can =
cause rusting of unprotected surfaces.

=20

Alex Thomson

=20

From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
Sujit Roy
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2023 5:57 PM
To: Triumphs
Subject: [TR] KROIL

=20

I'm down to my last spray can of this stuff. It lasted a long time, but =
I just got a shock on the price of a new 16 OZ can at $36 off Amazon. =
I'm in California and serious rust isn't an issue.

=20

Sujit

=20

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is good, but not that good. I just looked at my Kano Lab folder and I =
see I paid $8.20 per large can for a case of 12 back in 2007. I believe =
they were the large, 16 oz. cans but I could be wrong. Naturally, over =
the years, things got more expensive. I also bought a case of something =
called Weatherpruf which was a non-volatile, cosmoline type of coating =
to keep items from rusting over long term storage. That was a good =
product and I see they no longer offer it. That=E2=80=99s too bad. I =
also see that the company no longer sells direct to the consumer, but =
only through distributors. As we all know, anything from Amazon will be =
sold at a premium. From their (Kano) website, it appears that the =
company was sold a couple of years ago, probably the reason for so many =
changes. One thing that really is aggravating =C2=A0is when you buy a =
bunch of spray cans and then in time, some of them loose their =
propellant. Now you have full cans with no easy way of getting the =
product out. I think the Kroil cans had an overly high incidence of that =
happening. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textf=
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gallon can in 2017 =E2=80=93 it was $53 for one can that you could use =
in either a pump style sprayer or a pressurized sprayer. That was a good =
value but I made the mistake of buying the Silikroil version. I found =
out in a hurry that if you ever want to paint something that you used =
Silikroil on, the paint would just bead up, no matter how much you =
pressure washed the item. I=E2=80=99ll never buy that again. =
It=E2=80=99s also over $100 per gallon now. Based on their current =
marketing strategy, I don=E2=80=99t think I will be writing any more =
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gallon of PB Blaster along with a metal bodied pump sprayer for about =
$30 at NAPA store. That was and is a good value and that=E2=80=99s what =
I would suggest. I think the PB Blaster has more of a residual =
lubricating effect and I find that works well on things like ratchet =
binders and things like that. It is also a credible penetrant, =
especially with a bit of heat. Plus, if you are at a local store to buy =
that sort of thing, you don=E2=80=99t experience what amounts to =
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ill-fill-color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>I agree =
=E2=80=93 I don=E2=80=99t use WD40 much. I have found it can cause =
rusting of unprotected surfaces.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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ill-fill-color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>Alex =
Thomson<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Sujit Roy<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 23, 2023 5:57 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Triumphs<br><b>Subject:</b> [TR] =
KROIL<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I'm =
down to my last spray can of this stuff. It lasted a long time, but I =
just got a shock on the price of a new 16 OZ can at $36 off Amazon. I'm =
in&nbsp;California&nbsp;and serious rust isn't an =
issue.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>It is good, but is there =
something&nbsp;cheaper that folks&nbsp;are happy with? Please =
don't&nbsp;recommend WD40. I've used JB80 before someone recommended =
Kroil, but that is about 23$ for a similar size =
can.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Sujit<br clear=3Dall><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal>-- =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sujit =
Roy<br>Cupertino, California<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
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PB Blaster is my bust it loose of choice

Greg Lemon

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<div dir=3D"auto">PB Blaster is my bust it loose of choice<div dir=3D"auto"=
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&#39;m down to my last spray can of this stuff. It lasted a long time, but =
I just got a shock on the price of a new 16 OZ can at $36 off Amazon. I&#39=
;m in=C2=A0California=C2=A0and serious rust isn&#39;t an issue.<div>It is g=
ood, but is there something=C2=A0cheaper that folks=C2=A0are happy with? Pl=
ease don&#39;t=C2=A0recommend WD40. I&#39;ve used JB80 before someone recom=
mended Kroil, but that is about 23$ for a similar size can.</div><div><br><=
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If you are concerned, use weasel piss.

50% acetone and 50% ATF

-------- Original message --------
From: Rye Livingston <[email-masked]>
Date: 1/23/23 8:40 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: Sujit Roy <[email-masked]>
Cc: Triumphs <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] KROIL

Kroil is hard to beat and came highly recommended by a mechanic.  I=92ve go=
t a spray can of it and a can with a plastic tip like the old 3 & 1 oil whi=
ch if I=92m someone careful, I don=92t waste as much.

Rye

[email-masked]>> wrote:

I'm down to my last spray can of this stuff. It lasted a long time, but I j=
ust got a shock on the price of a new 16 OZ can at $36 off Amazon. I'm in C=
alifornia and serious rust isn't an issue.
It is good, but is there something cheaper that folks are happy with? Pleas=
e don't recommend WD40. I've used JB80 before someone recommended Kroil, bu=
t that is about 23$ for a similar size can.

Sujit

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Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 22:30:10 -0500

ditto on the acetone -ATF...

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fyi ...for your cans that lost propellant .... you can can recharge them 
by stuffing a nozzle down the throat after popping off the spray head.
Easiest (BUT ILL ADVISED) a standard can of cigarette butane will 
pressurize the spray can. (don't do it!)

typical... (I'd not go above 60ps) 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InXaSfYqUeI
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InXaSfYqUeI>also
you pressurized them
https://www.amazon.com/Vaper-19421-Blue-Spot-Spray/dp/B0069TUXHQ/ref=sr_1_11?keywords=refillable+spray+paint+can&qid=1674544584&sr=8-11
<https://www.amazon.com/Vaper-19421-Blue-Spot-Spray/dp/B0069TUXHQ/ref=sr_1_11?keywords=refillable+spray+paint+can&qid=1674544584&sr=8-11>and 
stuff like
https://www.amazon.com/Preval-0225-2-Pack/dp/B00CW809ZO/ref=sr_1_10?keywords=refillable+spray+paint+can&qid=1674544584&sr=8-10
<https://www.amazon.com/Preval-0225-2-Pack/dp/B00CW809ZO/ref=sr_1_10?keywords=refillable+spray+paint+can&qid=1674544584&sr=8-10>which 
are self pressured
I've used these wil car touch paint
jfft

ptegler

On 1/23/2023 8:24 PM, Alex & Janet Thomson wrote:
>
> Well, Kroil is good, but not that good. I just looked at my Kano Lab 
> folder and I see I paid $8.20 per large can for a case of 12 back in 
> 2007. I believe they were the large, 16 oz. cans but I could be wrong. 
> Naturally, over the years, things got more expensive. I also bought a 
> case of something called Weatherpruf which was a non-volatile, 
> cosmoline type of coating to keep items from rusting over long term 
> storage. That was a good product and I see they no longer offer it. 
> That’s too bad. I also see that the company no longer sells direct to 
> the consumer, but only through distributors. As we all know, anything 
> from Amazon will be sold at a premium. From their (Kano) website, it 
> appears that the company was sold a couple of years ago, probably the 
> reason for so many changes. One thing that really is aggravating  is 
> when you buy a bunch of spray cans and then in time, some of them 
> loose their propellant. Now you have full cans with no easy way of 
> getting the product out. I think the Kroil cans had an overly high 
> incidence of that happening.
>
> I bought a gallon can in 2017 – it was $53 for one can that you could 
> use in either a pump style sprayer or a pressurized sprayer. That was 
> a good value but I made the mistake of buying the Silikroil version. I 
> found out in a hurry that if you ever want to paint something that you 
> used Silikroil on, the paint would just bead up, no matter how much 
> you pressure washed the item. I’ll never buy that again. It’s also 
> over $100 per gallon now. Based on their current marketing strategy, I 
> don’t think I will be writing any more checks to Kano Labs for Kroil.
>
> I bought a gallon of PB Blaster along with a metal bodied pump sprayer 
> for about $30 at NAPA store. That was and is a good value and that’s 
> what I would suggest. I think the PB Blaster has more of a residual 
> lubricating effect and I find that works well on things like ratchet 
> binders and things like that. It is also a credible penetrant, 
> especially with a bit of heat. Plus, if you are at a local store to 
> buy that sort of thing, you don’t experience what amounts to 
> I agree – I don’t use WD40 much. I have found it can cause rusting of 
> unprotected surfaces.
>
> Alex Thomson
>
> *From:*Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of 
> *Sujit Roy
> *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2023 5:57 PM
> *To:* Triumphs
> *Subject:* [TR] KROIL
>
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    <p>fyi ...for your cans that lost propellant .... you can can
      recharge them by stuffing a nozzle down the throat after popping
      off the spray head.<br>
      Easiest (BUT ILL ADVISED) a standard can of cigarette butane will
      pressurize the spray can. (don't do it!)<br>
      <br>
      typical... (I'd not go above 60ps) <a moz-do-not-send="true"
        href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InXaSfYqUeI">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InXaSfYqUeI<br>
      </a>also<br>
      you pressurized them<br>
      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.amazon.com/Vaper-19421-Blue-Spot-Spray/dp/B0069TUXHQ/ref=sr_1_11?keywords=refillable+spray+paint+can&amp;qid=1674544584&amp;sr=8-11">https://www.amazon.com/Vaper-19421-Blue-Spot-Spray/dp/B0069TUXHQ/ref=sr_1_11?keywords=refillable+spray+paint+can&amp;qid=1674544584&amp;sr=8-11<br>
      </a>and stuff like <br>
      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.amazon.com/Preval-0225-2-Pack/dp/B00CW809ZO/ref=sr_1_10?keywords=refillable+spray+paint+can&amp;qid=1674544584&amp;sr=8-10">https://www.amazon.com/Preval-0225-2-Pack/dp/B00CW809ZO/ref=sr_1_10?keywords=refillable+spray+paint+can&amp;qid=1674544584&amp;sr=8-10<br>
      </a>which are self pressured<br>
      I've used these wil car touch paint<br>
      jfft</p>
    <p>ptegler<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/23/2023 8:24 PM, Alex &amp; Janet
      Thomson wrote:<br>
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            Kroil is good, but not that good. I just looked at my Kano
            Lab folder and I see I paid $8.20 per large can for a case
            of 12 back in 2007. I believe they were the large, 16 oz.
            cans but I could be wrong. Naturally, over the years, things
            got more expensive. I also bought a case of something called
            Weatherpruf which was a non-volatile, cosmoline type of
            coating to keep items from rusting over long term storage.
            That was a good product and I see they no longer offer it.
            That’s too bad. I also see that the company no longer sells
            direct to the consumer, but only through distributors. As we
            all know, anything from Amazon will be sold at a premium.
            From their (Kano) website, it appears that the company was
            sold a couple of years ago, probably the reason for so many
            changes. One thing that really is aggravating  is when you
            buy a bunch of spray cans and then in time, some of them
            loose their propellant. Now you have full cans with no easy
            way of getting the product out. I think the Kroil cans had
            an overly high incidence of that happening. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            bought a gallon can in 2017 – it was $53 for one can that
            you could use in either a pump style sprayer or a
            pressurized sprayer. That was a good value but I made the
            mistake of buying the Silikroil version. I found out in a
            hurry that if you ever want to paint something that you used
            Silikroil on, the paint would just bead up, no matter how
            much you pressure washed the item. I’ll never buy that
            again. It’s also over $100 per gallon now. Based on their
            current marketing strategy, I don’t think I will be writing
            any more checks to Kano Labs for Kroil.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            bought a gallon of PB Blaster along with a metal bodied pump
            sprayer for about $30 at NAPA store. That was and is a good
            value and that’s what I would suggest. I think the PB
            Blaster has more of a residual lubricating effect and I find
            that works well on things like ratchet binders and things
            like that. It is also a credible penetrant, especially with
            a bit of heat. Plus, if you are at a local store to buy that
            sort of thing, you don’t experience what amounts to
            incredibly high shipping costs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">I
            agree – I don’t use WD40 much. I have found it can cause
            rusting of unprotected surfaces.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#0D0D0D;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">Alex
            Thomson<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
            Triumphs [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] <b>On
              Behalf Of </b>Sujit Roy<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 23, 2023 5:57 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> Triumphs<br>
            <b>Subject:</b> [TR] KROIL<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal">I'm down to my last spray can of this
            stuff. It lasted a long time, but I just got a shock on the
            price of a new 16 OZ can at $36 off Amazon. I'm
            in California and serious rust isn't an issue.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">It is good, but is there
              something cheaper that folks are happy with? Please
              don't recommend WD40. I've used JB80 before someone
              recommended Kroil, but that is about 23$ for a similar
              size can.<o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Sujit<br clear="all">
              <o:p></o:p></p>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            </div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">-- <o:p></o:p></p>
            <div>
              <div>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">Sujit Roy<br>
                    Cupertino, California<o:p></o:p></p>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
                    <a href="https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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From: Hoyt Duff <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2023 11:16:20 -0500

I only use WD40 as a lubricant when cutting aluminum in my lathe. It's
mostly worthless for anything else compared to other chemicals.
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I have all the usual suspects on the shelf, Kroil, PB Blaster, torch etc. T=
hey all help some. But whenever I have a stubborn bolt nut stud, whatever, =
that I just cannot get out I remember the old school candle wax method. I g=
o dig out the stub of a candle in the back of my tool box, apply some heat =
to the culprit, touch it with the candle and let it cool for a bit and wick=
 the wax down around the treads and WALA, the offending culprit always seem=
s to come out and I think, dang, why didn't I try this hours ago. It really=
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From: dave northrup <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2023 19:10:11 +0000

WD 40 was developed for Vietnam.  It stand for Water displacement.  Its really good for providing a protective coat on metal in a wet/humid environment.  It’s a lousy lubricant and rust remover.  its also flammable and toxic to the environment.

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I only use WD40 as a lubricant when cutting aluminum in my lathe. It's mostly worthless for anything else compared to other chemicals.
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I use WD-40 mostly as a stain remover for oily stains on laundry. It's
quite good at stain removal, and that's probably the only thing I'd
recommend it for.

I'll sometimes use it to degrease bicycle mechanisms that don't readily
come apart, like some shifter or brifter types, where it does all right.

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Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2023 15:33:07 -0500

WD40  was never designed as a lubricant.  It was designed as a water 
displacement agent to wash sand out of bearing (WWII era)

ptegler

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	I=E2=80=99m with Marty.  When I rebuilt my TR6 engine I had =
broken off exhaust header stud I couldn=E2=80=99t get it out without the =
risk of braking off what remained of the stud. I didn=E2=80=99t think it =
would work, but to my great relief it did.
	Heated the stud area, melted some wax into the stud base and I =
was able to turn it free. =20
	Best,
	Bob

> On Jan 24, 2023, at 12:02 PM, marty sukey <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> I have all the usual suspects on the shelf, Kroil, PB Blaster, torch =
etc. They all help some. But whenever I have a stubborn bolt nut stud, =
whatever, that I just cannot get out I remember the old school candle =
wax method. I go dig out the stub of a candle in the back of my tool =
box, apply some heat to the culprit, touch it with the candle and let it =
cool for a bit and wick the wax down around the treads and WALA, the =
offending culprit always seems to come out and I think, dang, why didn't =
I try this hours ago. It really does work!
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class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>I=E2=80=99m=
 with Marty. &nbsp;When I rebuilt my TR6 engine I had broken off exhaust =
header stud I couldn=E2=80=99t get it out without the risk of braking =
off what remained of the stud. I didn=E2=80=99t think it would work, but =
to my great relief it did.<div><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
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From: Greg Lemon <[email-masked]>
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Agree about WD-40, it is a nice mild solvent generally won't remove set up
paint or dissolve plastics like lacquer thinner, acetone or reducer can,
but cleans off gummy residues and paints and coatings that haven't set.
Will use it to clean old sticky mechanisms and gummed up grease and apply
appropriate lube after cleaning.

Probably shouldn't, but sometimes a light spray to clean off stuff from my
hands that isn't conventional soap and water soluble.

Greg Lemon
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<div dir=3D"auto">Agree about WD-40, it is a nice mild solvent generally wo=
n&#39;t remove set up paint or dissolve plastics like lacquer thinner, acet=
one or reducer can, but cleans off gummy residues and paints and coatings t=
hat haven&#39;t set.=C2=A0 Will use it to clean old sticky mechanisms and g=
ummed up grease and apply appropriate lube after cleaning.<div dir=3D"auto"=
><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Probably shouldn&#39;t, but sometimes a light =
spray to clean off stuff from my hands that isn&#39;t conventional soap and=
 water soluble.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Greg Lem=
on</div><div dir=3D"auto">TR250<br><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
auto"><br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
 class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 24, 2023, 5:34 PM Don Hiscock &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><=
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fault" style=3D"font-size:small">I use WD-40 mostly as a stain remover for =
oily stains on laundry. It&#39;s quite good at=C2=A0stain removal, and that=
&#39;s probably the only thing I&#39;d recommend it for.</div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"font-size:small">I&#39;ll sometimes use it to degrease bicyc=
le mechanisms that don&#39;t readily come apart, like some shifter or brift=
er types, where it does all right.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 12:53 PM Ho=
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r-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I o=
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Wd40 also works great removing rustproofing and undercoating and nasty greas=
e spots when cleaning an engine bay

> On Jan 24, 2023, at 6:44 PM, Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> wrote:
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From: Paul Tegler <[email-masked]> mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.aol
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...removing bug and tar from your road car. Has zero effects on 
clearcoat/paint but wipes the crud right off.

ptegler

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> I'll sometimes use it to degrease bicycle mechanisms that don't 
> readily come apart, like some shifter or brifter types, where it does 
> all right.
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    <p>...removing bug and tar from your road car. Has zero effects on
      clearcoat/paint but wipes the crud right off.</p>
    <p>ptegler<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/24/2023 3:06 PM, Don Hiscock
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I use WD-40
          mostly as a stain remover for oily stains on laundry. It's
          quite good at stain removal, and that's probably the only
          thing I'd recommend it for.</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I'll
          sometimes use it to degrease bicycle mechanisms that don't
          readily come apart, like some shifter or brifter types, where
          it does all right.</div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 12:53
          PM Hoyt Duff &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I
          only use WD40 as a lubricant when cutting aluminum in my
          lathe. It's<br>
          mostly worthless for anything else compared to other
          chemicals.<br>
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> WD 40 was developed for Vietnam.

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From: Paul Tegler <[email-masked]> mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.aol
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2023 16:44:30 -0500

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hehe ...someone miss a couple emails?   1953. first commercial use was 
titan missile skin protection.
orig company name was Rocket Chemical Company
ptegler

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    <p>hehe ...someone miss a couple emails?   1953. first commercial
      use was titan missile skin protection.<br>
      orig company name was Rocket Chemical Company<br>
      ptegler<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/27/2023 3:58 PM, Philip Ethier
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          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
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            rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">WD 40 was developed for
            Vietnam.  </blockquote>
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          <div> In 1953?</div>
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Well =E2=80=A6  The French left in =E2=80=9954, didn=E2=80=99t they? =
When did we show up =E2=80=93 was it =E2=80=9962?

=20

Alex Thomson

=20

From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
Philip Ethier
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2023 3:58 PM
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Cc: Triumphs
Subject: Re: [TR] KROIL

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Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Philip Ethier<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 27, 2023 3:58 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> dave northrup<br><b>Cc:</b> Triumphs<br><b>Subject:</b> =
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On 1/27/23 2:24 PM, Alex & Janet Thomson wrote:
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> Well …  The French left in ’54, didn’t they? When did we show up – was 
> it ’62?
>
As I remember Ike sent advisors to Vietnam in 1955. Just looked it up.

September 1950, President Harry Truman sent a Military Assistance 
Advisory Group (MAAG) to Vietnam to assist the French in the First 
Indochina war.

TeriAnn

> *Philip Ethier
> *Sent:* Friday, January 27, 2023 3:58 PM
> *To:* dave northrup
> *Cc:* Triumphs
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] KROIL
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      Thomson wrote:<br>
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            …  The French left in ’54, didn’t they? When did we show up
            – was it ’62?</span></p>
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    <p>As I remember Ike sent advisors to Vietnam in 1955. Just looked
      it up.<br>
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                        Military Assistance Advisory Group (MAAG) to
                        Vietnam to assist the French in the First
                        Indochina war.</span></span></div>
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    <p>TeriAnn<br>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
            Triumphs [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] <b>On
              Behalf Of </b>Philip Ethier<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 27, 2023 3:58 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> dave northrup<br>
            <b>Cc:</b> Triumphs<br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] KROIL<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"> In 1953?<o:p></o:p></p>
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From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2023 18:22:42 -0700

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The legend I=E2=80=99d heard is that WD-40 was created to protect missile p=
arts
from condensation and corrosion when stored overnight outside during
fabrication in San Diego. Maybe the Atlas program?

Dunno how right or wrong that is, but I=E2=80=99ve never heard the Vietnam =
part.

On Friday, January 27, 2023, TeriAnn J. Wakeman <[email-masked]> wrote=
:

> Well =E2=80=A6  The French left in =E2=80=9954, didn=E2=80=99t they? When=
 did we show up =E2=80=93 was it
> =E2=80=9962?
> *From:* Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]
> <[email-masked]>] *On Behalf Of *Philip Ethier

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The legend I=E2=80=99d heard is that WD-40 was created to protect missile p=
arts from condensation and corrosion when stored overnight outside during f=
abrication in San Diego. Maybe the Atlas program? =C2=A0<div><br></div><div=
>Dunno how right or wrong that is, but I=E2=80=99ve never heard the Vietnam=
 part. =C2=A0<br><br>On Friday, January 27, 2023, TeriAnn J. Wakeman &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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   =20
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  <div>
    <div>On 1/27/23 2:24 PM, Alex &amp; Janet
      Thomson wrote:<br>
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        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Well
            =E2=80=A6=C2=A0 The French left in =E2=80=9954, didn=E2=80=99t =
they? When did we show up
            =E2=80=93 was it =E2=80=9962?</span></p>
      </div>
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    <p>As I remember Ike sent advisors to Vietnam in 1955. Just looked
      it up.<br>
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                <div>
                  <div aria-level=3D"3" role=3D"heading">September
                    1950<span lang=3D"en"><span>, President Harry Truman se=
nt a
                        Military Assistance Advisory Group (MAAG) to
                        Vietnam to assist the French in the First
                        Indochina war.</span></span></div>
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    <p>TeriAnn<br>
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t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u><br>
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        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
            Triumphs [<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">mailto:triumphs-bounces@<wbr>autox.team.net</a>] <b>On
              Behalf Of </b>Philip Ethier<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 27, 2023 3:58 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> dave northrup<br>
            <b>Cc:</b> Triumphs<br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] KROIL<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
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t;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
              <p class=3D"MsoNormal">WD 40 was developed for Vietnam.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
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              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
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              <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0In 1953?<u></u><u></u></p>
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Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2023 03:21:00 +0000

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Alex,

No, the first US advisors were sent by Eisenhower in =9255, in reaction to =
the French defeat.

How do I know that but not the WD-40 origin story?

Cliff

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986> for Window=
s

Sent: Friday, January 27, 2023 3:47 PM
@ranteer.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] KROIL

Well =85  The French left in =9254, didn=92t they? When did we show up =96 =
was it =9262?

Alex Thomson

From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Philip=
 Ethier
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2023 3:58 PM
To: dave northrup
Cc: Triumphs
Subject: Re: [TR] KROIL

 In 1953?

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Alex,</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">No, the first US advisors were sent by Eisenhower in=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"border:none;padding:0in"><b>From: </b><a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Alex &amp; Janet Thomson</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Friday, January 27, 2023 3:47 PM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">'Philip Ethier'</a>; <a hr=
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'dave northrup'</a><br>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [TR] KROIL</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">Well =
=85&nbsp; The French left in =9254, didn=92t they? When did we show up =96 =
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">Alex =
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif"> Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounce=
[email-masked]]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Philip Ethier<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 27, 2023 3:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> dave northrup<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Triumphs<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] KROIL<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ti=
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