Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Rear Shock Rebuilding

From: Rye Livingston <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2022 12:09:51 -0700

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I went with adjustable rear lever shocks from worldwide, Peter Caldwell, and=
 can dial in a lot stiffer travel which I like

Rye

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 1, 2022, at 12:04 PM, dave northrup <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF Totally go with world wide.  I've had them do numerous shocks.  =
 Have them put in the heavy duty valve; it's just a little stiffer and worth=
 it.=20
>=20
> As long as you are ok with pulling the second shock,  sending it out,  and=
 having the car down for that period.=20
>=20
> My feeling is that the "good" shock won't be for long.   It won't make a d=
ifference in postage (use a usps priority mail box), the car will be down fo=
r the same period,  but you will be out an additional $85.  The "good" shock=
 has sat for 25 years.   I think that's a bad bet.   Just my opinion=20
>=20
>=20
> -------- Original message --------
> From: William Brewer <[email-masked]>
> Date: 9/1/22 10:49 AM (GMT-06:00)
> To: Triumph List <[email-masked]>
> Subject: [TR] TR3 Rear Shock Rebuilding
>=20
>      I just installed a set of NOS rear lever shocks on my TR3. I have had=
 them about 25 years. When I took them out of the box, one of the shocks was=
 full of oil and the other was dry. I filled that one with oil and installed=
 them on the car. Dang! The empty one leaks slowly. I plan to send it off to=
 World Wide Autoparts or Apple Hydraulics to be rebuilt.
>      I have hoped that maybe I just overfilled the shock and it will just l=
eak to a certain point and then stop leaking. Probably naive on my part, but=
 one can hope.
>      Question: Moss sells new hydraulic shocks for $199 or rebuilt shocks f=
or $289 (+150 core charge). Does anyone have any experience with the "new" s=
hocks? Are they "made in China"/County brand junk?
>      Is there a risk of just having one shock rebuilt? I would rather not s=
end in the other NOS shock to be rebuilt if it is new. My theory is that I w=
ill get one shock rebuilt and if the car still drives fine then leave it at t=
hat. If it feels like the two rear shocks are different, then I'll send in t=
he second shock to be rebuilt.
>      Are any of the shock rebuilders better than the others? Anyone have t=
heir shocks rebuilt at Apple Hydraulics or World Wide Auto Parts? Apple is $=
135 and World Wide is $85.
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>      Thanks.
>=20
>      Bill Brewer
>      Morro Bay, California
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I went with adjustable rear lever shocks fr=
om worldwide, Peter Caldwell, and can dial in a lot stiffer travel which I l=
ike<div><br></div><div>Rye<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Sep 1, 2022, at 12:04 PM, d=
ave northrup &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii">=

<meta content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">

Totally go with world wide.&nbsp; I've had them do numerous shocks.&nbsp; &n=
bsp;Have them put in the heavy duty valve; it's just a little stiffer and wo=
rth it.&nbsp;
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">As long as you are ok with pulling the second shock,&nbsp;=
 sending it out,&nbsp; and having the car down for that period.&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">My feeling is that the "good" shock won't be for long.&nbs=
p; &nbsp;It won't make a difference in postage (use a usps priority mail box=
), the car will be down for the same period,&nbsp; but you will be out an ad=
ditional $85.&nbsp; The "good" shock has sat for 25
 years.&nbsp; &nbsp;I think that's a bad bet.&nbsp; &nbsp;Just my opinion&nb=
sp;</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-------- Original message --------</div>
<div>From: William Brewer &lt;[email-masked]&gt; </div>
<div>Date: 9/1/22 10:49 AM (GMT-06:00) </div>
<div>To: Triumph List &lt;[email-masked]&gt; </div>
<div>Subject: [TR] TR3 Rear Shock Rebuilding </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"text " style=3D"line-height:1.3; color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family=
:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:14px; font-style:normal; font-weight:=
400; letter-spacing:normal; orphans:2; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; te=
xt-transform:none; white-space:normal; widows:2; word-spacing:0px">
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I just installed a set of NOS rear lever shocks on m=
y TR3. I have had them about 25 years. When I took them out of the box, one o=
f the shocks was full of oil and the other was dry. I filled that one with o=
il and installed them on the car. Dang! The empty
 one leaks slowly. I plan to send it off to World Wide Autoparts or Apple Hy=
draulics to be rebuilt.<br style=3D"clear:both">
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I have hoped that maybe I just overfilled the shock=
 and it will just leak to a certain point and then stop leaking. Probably na=
ive on my part, but one can hope.<br style=3D"clear:both">
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Question: Moss sells new hydraulic shocks for $199 o=
r rebuilt shocks for $289 (+150 core charge). Does anyone have any experienc=
e with the "new" shocks? Are they "made in China"/County brand junk?<br styl=
e=3D"clear:both">
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Is there a risk of just having one shock rebuilt? I=
 would rather not send in the other NOS shock to be rebuilt if it is new. My=
 theory is that I will get one shock rebuilt and if the car still drives fin=
e then leave it at that. If it feels like the two
 rear shocks are different, then I'll send in the second shock to be rebuilt=
.<br style=3D"clear:both">
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Are any of the shock rebuilders better than the oth=
ers? Anyone have their shocks rebuilt at Apple Hydraulics or World Wide Auto=
 Parts? Apple is $135 and World Wide is $85.<br style=3D"clear:both">
<br style=3D"clear:both">
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Thanks.<br style=3D"clear:both">
<br style=3D"clear:both">
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Bill Brewer<br style=3D"clear:both">
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Morro Bay, California</div>
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From: bill beecher <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2022 16:20:02 -0500

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I always rebuild/replace any worn suspension parts in pairs.  Just makes sen=
se, the other side may not be leaking but you want operating at equal streng=
th.
My 2 cents,
Bill B

=E2=80=9CDo your best, and let the sparrows twitter=E2=80=9D  Lofty

On Sep 1, 2022, at 2:03 PM, dave northrup <[email-masked]> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF Totally go with world wide.  I've had them do numerous shocks.   H=
ave them put in the heavy duty valve; it's just a little stiffer and worth i=
t.=20

As long as you are ok with pulling the second shock,  sending it out,  and h=
aving the car down for that period.=20

My feeling is that the "good" shock won't be for long.   It won't make a dif=
ference in postage (use a usps priority mail box), the car will be down for t=
he same period,  but you will be out an additional $85.  The "good" shock ha=
s sat for 25 years.   I think that's a bad bet.   Just my opinion=20

-------- Original message --------
From: William Brewer <[email-masked]>
Date: 9/1/22 10:49 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: Triumph List <[email-masked]>
Subject: [TR] TR3 Rear Shock Rebuilding

     I just installed a set of NOS rear lever shocks on my TR3. I have had t=
hem about 25 years. When I took them out of the box, one of the shocks was f=
ull of oil and the other was dry. I filled that one with oil and installed t=
hem on the car. Dang! The empty one leaks slowly. I plan to send it off to W=
orld Wide Autoparts or Apple Hydraulics to be rebuilt.
     I have hoped that maybe I just overfilled the shock and it will just le=
ak to a certain point and then stop leaking. Probably naive on my part, but o=
ne can hope.
     Question: Moss sells new hydraulic shocks for $199 or rebuilt shocks fo=
r $289 (+150 core charge). Does anyone have any experience with the "new" sh=
ocks? Are they "made in China"/County brand junk?
     Is there a risk of just having one shock rebuilt? I would rather not se=
nd in the other NOS shock to be rebuilt if it is new. My theory is that I wi=
ll get one shock rebuilt and if the car still drives fine then leave it at t=
hat. If it feels like the two rear shocks are different, then I'll send in t=
he second shock to be rebuilt.
     Are any of the shock rebuilders better than the others? Anyone have the=
ir shocks rebuilt at Apple Hydraulics or World Wide Auto Parts? Apple is $13=
5 and World Wide is $85.

     Thanks.

     Bill Brewer
     Morro Bay, California

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I always rebuild/replace any worn suspensio=
n parts in pairs. &nbsp;Just makes sense, the other side may not be leaking b=
ut you want operating at equal strength.<div>My 2 cents,</div><div>Bill B<br=
><br><div dir=3D"ltr">=E2=80=9CDo your best, and let the sparrows twitter=E2=
=80=9D &nbsp;Lofty</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Sep 1, 2022, at 2:03 PM, dav=
e northrup &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=
=BB=BF

hs/[email-masked]</span><br></div></div></body></html>=

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From: "Allan Stults" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2022 14:34:45 -0700

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What about the tube shock conversion from RATCO?  I read a really
positive article in a Vintage Triumph article somewhat recently.  It
goes against tradition, but perhaps a better solution.  I've been
considering that option.

Allan StultsVeneta, OR'62 TR 3

On 9/1/2022 at 1:44 PM, "Rye Livingston"  wrote:I went with adjustable
rear lever shocks from worldwide, Peter Caldwell, and can dial in a
lot stiffer travel which I like
Rye

Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 1, 2022, at 12:04 PM, dave northrup  wrote:

 Totally go with world wide.  I've had them do numerous shocks.  
Have them put in the heavy duty valve; it's just a little stiffer and
worth it.  
  As long as you are ok with pulling the second shock,  sending it
out,  and having the car down for that period.  
  My feeling is that the "good" shock won't be for long.   It won't
make a difference in postage (use a usps priority mail box), the car
will be down for the same period,  but you will be out an additional
$85.  The "good" shock has sat for 25  years.   I think that's a bad
bet.   Just my opinion  
  -------- Original message -------- From: William Brewer   Date:
9/1/22 10:49 AM (GMT-06:00)  To: Triumph List   Subject: [TR] TR3 Rear
Shock Rebuilding  
         I just installed a set of NOS rear lever shocks on my TR3. I
have had them about 25 years. When I took them out of the box, one of
the shocks was full of oil and the other was dry. I filled that one
with oil and installed them on the car. Dang! The empty  one leaks
slowly. I plan to send it off to World Wide Autoparts or Apple
Hydraulics to be rebuilt.
      I have hoped that maybe I just overfilled the shock and it will
just leak to a certain point and then stop leaking. Probably naive on
my part, but one can hope.
      Question: Moss sells new hydraulic shocks for $199 or rebuilt
shocks for $289 (+150 core charge). Does anyone have any experience
with the "new" shocks? Are they "made in China"/County brand junk?
      Is there a risk of just having one shock rebuilt? I would rather
not send in the other NOS shock to be rebuilt if it is new. My theory
is that I will get one shock rebuilt and if the car still drives fine
then leave it at that. If it feels like the two  rear shocks are
different, then I'll send in the second shock to be rebuilt.
      Are any of the shock rebuilders better than the others? Anyone
have their shocks rebuilt at Apple Hydraulics or World Wide Auto
Parts? Apple is $135 and World Wide is $85.
      Thanks.
      Bill Brewer
      Morro Bay, California 
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<span style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 14px; line-height: 150%;"><di=
v>What about the tube shock conversion from RATCO?&nbsp; I read a really po=
sitive article in a Vintage Triumph article somewhat recently.&nbsp; It goe=
s against tradition, but perhaps a better solution.&nbsp; I've been conside=
ring that option.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Allan Stults</div><div>Venet=
a, OR</div><div>'62 TR 3<br></div><br>On 9/1/2022 at 1:44 PM, "Rye Livingst=
on" &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<blockquote style=3D"border-left:solid 1px #=
ccc;margin-left:10px;padding-left:10px;"><div><div></div><div dir=3D"auto">=
I went with adjustable rear lever shocks from worldwide, Peter Caldwell, an=
d can dial in a lot stiffer travel which I like<div><br></div><div>Rye<br><=
br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquo=
te>On Sep 1, 2022, at 12:04 PM, dave northrup &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrot=
e:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

Totally go with world wide.&nbsp; I've had them do numerous shocks.&nbsp; &=
nbsp;Have them put in the heavy duty valve; it's just a little stiffer and =
worth it.&nbsp;
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">As long as you are ok with pulling the second shock,&nbsp=
; sending it out,&nbsp; and having the car down for that period.&nbsp;</div=
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">My feeling is that the "good" shock won't be for long.&nb=
sp; &nbsp;It won't make a difference in postage (use a usps priority mail b=
ox), the car will be down for the same period,&nbsp; but you will be out an=
 additional $85.&nbsp; The "good" shock has sat for 25
 years.&nbsp; &nbsp;I think that's a bad bet.&nbsp; &nbsp;Just my opinion&n=
bsp;</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-------- Original message --------</div>
<div>From: William Brewer &lt;[email-masked]&gt; </div>
<div>Date: 9/1/22 10:49 AM (GMT-06:00) </div>
<div>To: Triumph List &lt;[email-masked]&gt; </div>
<div>Subject: [TR] TR3 Rear Shock Rebuilding </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"text " style=3D"line-height:1.3;color:#000;font-family:Arial,=
Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;lette=
r-spacing:normal;text-indent:0;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-=
spacing:0;">
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I just installed a set of NOS rear lever shocks on=
 my TR3. I have had them about 25 years. When I took them out of the box, o=
ne of the shocks was full of oil and the other was dry. I filled that one w=
ith oil and installed them on the car. Dang! The empty
 one leaks slowly. I plan to send it off to World Wide Autoparts or Apple H=
ydraulics to be rebuilt.<br style=3D"clear:both;">
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I have hoped that maybe I just overfilled the shoc=
k and it will just leak to a certain point and then stop leaking. Probably =
naive on my part, but one can hope.<br style=3D"clear:both;">
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Question: Moss sells new hydraulic shocks for $199=
 or rebuilt shocks for $289 (+150 core charge). Does anyone have any experi=
ence with the "new" shocks? Are they "made in China"/County brand junk?<br =
style=3D"clear:both;">
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Is there a risk of just having one shock rebuilt? =
I would rather not send in the other NOS shock to be rebuilt if it is new. =
My theory is that I will get one shock rebuilt and if the car still drives =
fine then leave it at that. If it feels like the two
 rear shocks are different, then I'll send in the second shock to be rebuil=
t.<br style=3D"clear:both;">
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Are any of the shock rebuilders better than the ot=
hers? Anyone have their shocks rebuilt at Apple Hydraulics or World Wide Au=
to Parts? Apple is $135 and World Wide is $85.<br style=3D"clear:both;">
<br style=3D"clear:both;">
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Thanks.<br style=3D"clear:both;">
<br style=3D"clear:both;">
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Bill Brewer<br style=3D"clear:both;">
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Morro Bay, California</div>
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