Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Oil Pan Leakage

From: Joel Justin <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2022 23:53:57 +0000

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Bill,

If it's leaking from the front, it's quite likely it's not the oil pan but =
rather the front engine plate. While it's something like 3/16" steel, they =
can suffer from over-torquing and warp. Even though there's lots of bolts, =
seeps between them happens. Given the plate ends where the oil pan begins, =
it's pretty hart to distinguish pan vs. plate. If you clean things up REALL=
Y well, then run it for a short time, you might be able to see which it is.=
 Unfortunately, it's pretty much an engine out to replace, unless you try t=
o support the front of the engine and try to remove it in situ. You could t=
ry using lots of Permatex silicone sealer when you reassemble, or buy a new=
 front plate (available new in aluminum). If you convince yourself it's the=
 pan, you could also purchase an aluminum one. It has a thick flat block ma=
ting surface. Good luck!

Joel Justin...
'54 TR2
'58 10 Estate
'60 TR3A
'61 TR4
'65 2000 Saloon
'71 GT6

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt">Bill,<o:p></o:p></s=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt">If it&#8217;s leaki=
ng from the front, it&#8217;s quite likely it&#8217;s not the oil pan but r=
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teel, they can suffer from over-torquing and warp. Even though there&#8217;=
s
 lots of bolts, seeps between them happens. Given the plate ends where the =
oil pan begins, it&#8217;s pretty hart to distinguish pan vs. plate. If you=
 clean things up REALLY well, then run it for a short time, you might be ab=
le to see which it is. Unfortunately,
 it&#8217;s pretty much an engine out to replace, unless you try to support=
 the front of the engine and try to remove it in situ. You could try using =
lots of Permatex silicone sealer when you reassemble, or buy a new front pl=
ate (available new in aluminum). If you
 convince yourself it&#8217;s the pan, you could also purchase an aluminum =
one. It has a thick flat block mating surface. Good luck!<o:p></o:p></span>=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt">&#8217;58 10 Estate=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt">&#8216;60 TR3A<o:p>=
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From: bill beecher <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2022 08:39:28 -0500

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Good thought Joel. I don=E2=80=99t have any leak issues but you make a good p=
oint.  Also could be the timing cover, which suffers the same ills as the su=
mp pan.=20
Best regards,
Bill
TS30800L

=E2=80=9CDo your best, and let the sparrows twitter=E2=80=9D  Lofty

On Jul 28, 2022, at 11:21 PM, Joel Justin <[email-masked]> wrote:

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Bill,
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If it=E2=80=99s leaking from the front, it=E2=80=99s quite likely it=E2=80=99=
s not the oil pan but rather the front engine plate. While it=E2=80=99s some=
thing like 3/16=E2=80=9D steel, they can suffer from over-torquing and warp.=
 Even though there=E2=80=99s lots of bolts, seeps between them happens. Give=
n the plate ends where the oil pan begins, it=E2=80=99s pretty hart to disti=
nguish pan vs. plate. If you clean things up REALLY well, then run it for a s=
hort time, you might be able to see which it is. Unfortunately, it=E2=80=99s=
 pretty much an engine out to replace, unless you try to support the front o=
f the engine and try to remove it in situ. You could try using lots of Perma=
tex silicone sealer when you reassemble, or buy a new front plate (available=
 new in aluminum). If you convince yourself it=E2=80=99s the pan, you could a=
lso purchase an aluminum one. It has a thick flat block mating surface. Good=
 luck!
=20
Joel Justin=E2=80=A6
=E2=80=9954 TR2
=E2=80=9958 10 Estate
=E2=80=9860 TR3A
=E2=80=9961 TR4
=E2=80=9965 2000 Saloon
=E2=80=9971 GT6
=20
=20
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 leak issues but you make a good point. &nbsp;Also could be the timing cover=
, which suffers the same ills as the sump pan.&nbsp;<div>Best regards,</div>=
<div>Bill</div><div>TS30800L<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">=E2=80=9CDo your best, a=
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 clean things up REALLY well, then run it for a short time, you might be abl=
e to see which it is. Unfortunately,
 it=E2=80=99s pretty much an engine out to replace, unless you try to suppor=
t the front of the engine and try to remove it in situ. You could try using l=
ots of Permatex silicone sealer when you reassemble, or buy a new front plat=
e (available new in aluminum). If you
 convince yourself it=E2=80=99s the pan, you could also purchase an aluminum=
 one. It has a thick flat block mating surface. Good luck!<o:p></o:p></span>=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt">=E2=80=9860 TR3A<o:p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt">=E2=80=9961 TR4<o:p>=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt">=E2=80=9965 2000 Sal=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt">=E2=80=9971 GT6<o:p>=
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