Subject: Re: [TR] Electric Fan Relay

From: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2022 13:02:30 -0400 (EDT)

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Keith, 

I would recommend connecting a 1N4004 diode across the positive an the ground terminals of the relay coil. Connect the cathode end of the diode to the positive terminal and the anode end (the end of the diode with the line om it) to the negative terminal. this will have no effect when the relay is energized. When a relay is denergized it generates a spark which can burn the points. The diode will allow this spark to travel through the diode and dissipate. 
Connect to relay negative connection. Connect to the relay positive terminal. 

Diodes should be across the terminals of all relays and solenoids. 

Ronald Olds 

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To: [email-masked] 
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 11:38:04 AM 
Subject: [TR] Electric Fan Relay 

I have a 62 TR4 with Trim Line electric fan, Derale fan controller, 30 amp fuse, and 30 amp NAPA relay. In the past 5 or 6 years, I have likely replaced the relay six or seven times. The wiring seems pretty straight forward and all seems in order. I really have no idea where to look next. Any suggestions? 

Keith Stewart 

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end of the diode with the line om it) to the negative terminal. this will h=
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Thanks Ron. I assume this would be on the relay 30 and 85 contacts. Is =
that correct?

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Keith

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To: [email-masked]
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] Electric Fan Relay

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Keith,

I would recommend connecting a 1N4004 diode across the positive an the =
ground terminals of the relay coil. Connect the cathode end of the diode =
to the positive terminal and the anode end (the end of the diode with =
the line om it) to the negative terminal. this will have no effect when =
the relay is energized.  When a relay is denergized it generates a spark =
which can burn the points. The diode will allow this spark to travel =
through the diode and  dissipate.

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<https://cdn.sparkfun.com/assets/d/6/b/f/a/5171b6bece395ff53c000000.PNG> =

                                                  Connect to relay =
negative connection.                            Connect to the relay =
positive terminal.

=20

=20

Ronald Olds

=20

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=20

I have a 62 TR4 with Trim Line electric fan, Derale fan controller, 30 =
amp fuse, and 30 amp NAPA relay. In the past 5 or 6 years, I have likely =
replaced the relay six or seven times. The wiring seems pretty straight =
forward and all seems in order. I really have no idea where to look =
next. Any suggestions?=20

Keith Stewart=20

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs  =

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thanks Ron. I assume this would be =
on the relay 30 and 85 contacts. Is that =
correct?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Keith<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><di=
v style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> [email-masked] =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> June 16, 2022 1:03 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Cc:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Electric Fan =
Relay<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:black'>Keith,<br><br>I would recommend connecting a =
1N4004 diode across the positive an the ground terminals of the relay =
coil. Connect the cathode end of the diode to the positive terminal and =
the anode end (the end of the diode with the line om it) to the negative =
terminal. this will have no effect when the relay is energized.&nbsp; =
When a relay is denergized it generates a spark which can burn the =
points. The diode will allow this spark to travel through the diode =
and&nbsp; dissipate.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
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bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:black'><img width=3D454 height=3D176 =
style=3D'width:4.7291in;height:1.8333in' id=3D"_x0000_i1027" =
src=3D"https://cdn.sparkfun.com/assets/d/6/b/f/a/5171b6bece395ff53c000000=
.PNG"></span><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
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bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Connect to relay negative =
connection.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Connect to the relay positive =
terminal.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:black'>Diodes should be across the terminals of all =
relays and solenoids.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:black'>Ronald Olds<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div =
class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:black'><hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter =
id=3Dzwchr></span></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:black'>From: </span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:black'><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>To:=
 </b><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b=
>Sent: </b>Thursday, June 16, 2022 11:38:04 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>[TR] =
Electric Fan Relay<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:black'>I have a 62 TR4 with Trim Line electric fan, =
Derale fan controller, 30 amp fuse, and 30 amp NAPA relay. In the past 5 =
or 6 years, I have likely replaced the relay six or seven times. The =
wiring seems pretty straight forward and all seems in order. I really =
have no idea where to look next. Any suggestions? <br><br><br><br>Keith =
Stewart <br><br><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> =
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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2022 20:37:29 +0000 (UTC)

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 One moment, please, it is the cathode end that has the stripe.=C2=A0 Conne=
ct that to the positive terminal.

Connecting a diode across the coil will do noting for the contacts burning =
up.=C2=A0 It will protect the temp switch, however.=C2=A0 Placing the diode=
 across the contacts will quench the arc there.=C2=A0=20

Another possibility, one that I use regularly, a varistor designed for just=
 such an application.=C2=A0 Something like this:
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/bourns-inc/MOV-10D220KTR/2407603
This part is not polarity sensitive and will limit the voltage across the c=
ontacts to a point where no spark will be generated.

=20
Dave=20

=20
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email-masked]
To: [email-masked]
Cc: [email-masked]
Sent: Thu, Jun 16, 2022 12:02 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Electric Fan Relay

Keith,

I would recommend connecting a 1N4004 diode across the positive an the grou=
nd terminals of the relay coil. Connect the cathode end of the diode to the=
 positive terminal and the anode end (the end of the diode with the line om=
 it) to the negative terminal. this will have no effect when the relay is e=
nergized.=C2=A0 When a relay is denergized it generates a spark which can b=
urn the points. The diode will allow this spark to travel through the diode=
 and=C2=A0 dissipate.
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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
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=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Connect to relay neg=
ative connection.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Connect to the relay positive terminal.

Ronald Olds

I have a 62 TR4 with Trim Line electric fan, Derale fan controller, 30 amp =
fuse, and 30 amp NAPA relay. In the past 5 or 6 years, I have likely replac=
ed the relay six or seven times. The wiring seems pretty straight forward a=
nd all seems in order. I really have no idea where to look next. Any sugges=
tions?=20

=20

Keith Stewart=20

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<div> <font size="3">One moment, please, it is the cathode end that has the stripe.&nbsp; Connect that to the positive terminal.<br>
</font></div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div><font size="3">Connecting a diode across the coil will do noting for the contacts burning up.&nbsp; It will protect the temp switch, however.&nbsp; Placing the diode across the contacts will quench the arc there.&nbsp; <br>
</font></div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div><font size="3">Another possibility, one that I use regularly, a varistor designed for just such an application.&nbsp; Something like this:</font></div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div><font size="3">https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/bourns-inc/MOV-10D220KTR/2407603</font></div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div><font size="3">This part is not polarity sensitive and will limit the voltage across the contacts to a point where no spark will be generated.</font></div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style="clear:both">
<div style="color:black;font:12pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<div><font size="4">Dave <br>
</font></div>

<div><font size="3"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;"><br>
</span></font></div>
<br>
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</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div> <br>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black"><font size="2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: [email-masked]<br>
To: [email-masked]<br>
Cc: [email-masked]<br>
Sent: Thu, Jun 16, 2022 12:02 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] Electric Fan Relay<br>
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<div>Keith,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I would recommend connecting a 1N4004 diode across the positive an the ground terminals of the relay coil. Connect the cathode end of the diode to the positive terminal and the anode end (the end of the diode with the line om it) to the negative terminal. this will have no effect when the relay is energized.&nbsp; When a relay is denergized it generates a spark which can burn the points. The diode will allow this spark to travel through the diode and&nbsp; dissipate.<br clear="none"></div>

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<div>Diodes should be across the terminals of all relays and solenoids.<br clear="none"></div>

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<div><b>From: </b>[email-masked]<br clear="none"><b>To: </b>[email-masked]<br clear="none"><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, June 16, 2022 11:38:04 AM<br clear="none"><b>Subject: </b>[TR] Electric Fan Relay<br clear="none"></div>

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<div id="yiv6004001263yqtfd09725" class="yiv6004001263yqt2271828162">I have a 62 TR4 with Trim Line electric fan, Derale fan controller, 30 amp fuse, and 30 amp NAPA relay. In the past 5 or 6 years, I have likely replaced the relay six or seven times. The wiring seems pretty straight forward and all seems in order. I really have no idea where to look next. Any suggestions? <br clear="none"><br clear="none">  <br clear="none"><br clear="none">Keith Stewart <br clear="none"><br clear="none">[email-masked] <br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>
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