Subject: Re: [TR] Was TR3a Smith's heater fan ground wire

From: James Henningsen <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 29 May 2022 20:56:23 -0400

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I agree on the heater core. Very fragile after all these years. When mine go=
es I am putting in a new unit from Macys Garage.  Very nice unit! =20
Jim Henningsen
Ocala FL
61 3A
67 4A
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> On May 29, 2022, at 8:14 PM, auprichard uprichard.net <auprichard@uprichar=
d.net> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> I normally test them to about 7 or 8 psi (I realize they should not see mo=
re than 4, but I like the comfort zone).  If they hold pressure and look goo=
d, I will use them. Failing that, I find it best to go find another or buy n=
ew.  =46rom what I have heard, they are extremely difficult to repair and pr=
one to future problems.  And, unlike a radiator leak, a leaking heater core (=
a) is a pain to replace and (b) will make a mess on what are frequently nice=
 new carpets.
> =20
> Regarding your question about the fan, the radiator people I know only lik=
e to deal with plumbing.  On the other hand, being a cardiologist, I can tin=
ker with plumbing AND electricity =E2=80=93 but patients were so much easier=
 than Triumphs=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.
> =20
> Andrew
> =20
> From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of David Friedl=
ander
> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 7:48 PM
> To: Art McEwen <[email-masked]>
> Cc: [email-masked]
> Subject: [TR] Was TR3a Smith's heater fan ground wire
> =20
> =20
> Has anyone taken their TR3 heater to a radiator shop to recorded and rebui=
lt? Will they touch the fan portion or just deal with the core itself?
> =20
> Thanks!!
> =20
> Dave
> =20
> =20
> On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 7:09 PM Art McEwen <[email-masked]> wrote:
> It makes up for breaking the new power steering pump I was helping install=
 on my BILs F150 last week.  =20
>=20
>=20
> On May 29, 2022, at 5:34 PM, DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> On a scale of one to ten this is about a .02.  I've committed a couple of g=
oofs recently that were 12.5.  If you feel tempted to administer a dope-slap=
 to your self, use just one finger.  And your pinky at that.
> =20
> I wish all of my problems were that easy to resolve.
> =20
> Good job!
> =20
> Dave
> =20
> =20
> =20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Art McEwen <[email-masked]>
> To: [email-masked]
> Sent: Sun, May 29, 2022 10:20 am
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3a Smith's heater fan ground wire
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> Well that was almost too easy.   Turns out when I replaced the heater hose=
s last year I neglected to even re-attach the ground wire, it must have been=
 lying against a convenient ground right up until last week.
> =20
> On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 2:40 PM Art McEwen <[email-masked]> wrote:
> Any idea where it should be?   Fan stopped working soon after the OEM reos=
tat failed (replaced by simple toggle) which was soon after one of the heate=
r hoses cracked at the core side.    I'm assuming it's the fan that's shot b=
ut I'm willing to place a long shot bet on the ground wire before I tackle t=
hat job again.
> =20
> Thanks,
>=20
> Art
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gree on the heater core. Very fragile after all these years. When mine goes I=
 am putting in a new unit from Macys Garage. &nbsp;Very nice unit! &nbsp;</d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">Jim Henningsen</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ocala FL</div><div d=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot=
;,serif;color:#1F497D">I normally test them to about 7 or 8 psi (I realize t=
hey should not see more than 4, but I like the comfort zone).&nbsp; If they h=
old pressure and look good, I will use them. Failing
 that, I find it best to go find another or buy new.&nbsp; =46rom what I hav=
e heard, they are extremely difficult to repair and prone to future problems=
.&nbsp; And, unlike a radiator leak, a leaking heater core (a) is a pain to r=
eplace and (b) will make a mess on what
 are frequently nice new carpets.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot=
;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot=
;,serif;color:#1F497D">Regarding your question about the fan, the radiator p=
eople I know only like to deal with plumbing.&nbsp; On the other hand, being=
 a cardiologist, I can tinker with plumbing AND
 electricity =E2=80=93 but patients were so much easier than Triumphs=E2=80=A6=
=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot=
;,serif;color:#1F497D">Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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;,serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]=
.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of
</b>David Friedlander<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 29, 2022 7:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Art McEwen &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> [email-masked]<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [TR] Was TR3a Smith's heater fan ground wire<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Has anyone taken their TR3 heater to a radiator shop t=
o recorded and rebuilt? Will they touch the fan portion or just deal with th=
e core itself?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks!!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dave<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 7:09 PM Art McEwen &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></=
o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">It makes up for breaking the new power steering pump I=
 was helping install on my BILs F150 last week. &nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">On May 29, 2022, at 5:=
34 PM, DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bla=
nk">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=EF=BB=BF <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">On a scale of one to ten this is about a .0=
2.&nbsp; I've committed a couple of goofs recently that were 12.5.&nbsp; If y=
ou feel tempted to administer a dope-slap to your self,
 use just one finger.&nbsp; And your pinky at that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">I wish all of my problems were that easy to=
 resolve.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Good job!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Dave
</span><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-se=
rif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ze:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">-----Origina=
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From: Art McEwen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@au=
tox.team.net</a><br>
Sent: Sun, May 29, 2022 10:20 am<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3a Smith's heater fan ground wire<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div id=3D"m_4042106993452979432yiv6987904423">
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Well that was almost too easy.&nbsp; &nbsp;=
Turns out when I replaced&nbsp;the heater hoses last year I neglected to eve=
n re-attach the ground wire, it must have been lying against
 a convenient&nbsp;ground right up until last week.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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al&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 2:40 PM Art McEwen &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">artwmcewen@gmai=
l.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Any idea where it should be?&nbsp; &nbsp;Fa=
n stopped working soon after the OEM reostat failed (replaced by simple togg=
le) which was soon after one of the heater hoses cracked
 at the core side.&nbsp; &nbsp; I'm assuming it's the fan that's shot but I'=
m willing to place a long shot bet on the ground wire before I tackle that j=
ob again.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I took mine to a shop and they couldn=E2=80=99t work o=
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 years ago.&nbsp; They don=E2=80=99t mess with electrical parts at all.<o:p>=
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