Subject: Re: [TR] IRS rear shock question

From: DAVE HOGYE <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 16 May 2022 20:35:56 -0700 (PDT)

I can't recall exactly what I did there, but changing the standard hardware is a good place to start.  The fatter the purchase on the shock side the better.  I think I used a grade8 hard washer to grab as much of the shock as possible under the bolt head.  I think an allen head bolt might provide a better purchase for tightening, or I ground down a 9/16" socket to better fit the bolt head.  I think I used a longer bolts too.  Adding another nut to lock things is place.  If I get a chance, I'll take a good look at what I did and get back to you.  The frame mount can get worn out of round too, if it's been loose a few times.  
Dave H.
> On 05/16/2022 6:01 PM Dave Connitt <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
>  
> Hi all,
> For the second time in 2 consecutive driving seasons, the passenger side (R/R) lever arm rear shock absorber mounting bolts have backed off to the point that the shock bangs against the frame. When noise started the second time I thought it was coming from a loose exhaust but it turned out to be the lower mounting bolt again on that right rear shock. The first time it happened, I applied blue Loctite to the bolt threads but the bolts backed out anyway.
> After the first issue I had the shocks rebuilt and the mounting holes on this second set of shocks seemed OK ( not worn out if round).
> Has anyone else run into this and if you have, how did you fix it?
> Thanks,
> Dave Connitt 
> ‘67 TR4A-IRS
> 
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From: Dean <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 13:19:40 -0400

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'word-wrap:break-word'><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>I sta=
rted using ARP bolts that have a different size socket for the head but sti=
ll is 3/8-24 in size. With these there is</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Room for =
the socket and can get them really tight.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Summit has them in 3/8 =E2=80=93 24 X1.00 =
with a head that is 12 point and takes a 7/16 socket. Also has a built in f=
lange washer. With this you can use a 7/16 12 point socket. Summit number A=
RP-744-1000. Package of 5 $12.59</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I also use a 3/8-24 nut that also takes a 7/16 12 p=
oint socket. Summit number ARP-300-8332. Package of </p><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l>10 $13.59</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al>A regular 3/8 =E2=80=93 24 bolt takes a 9/16 socket.</p><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Works for me</p><p class=3DM=
soNormal>Dean Tetterton</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from=
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om: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">DAVE HOGYE</a><br><b>Sent: <=
/b>Monday, May 16, 2022 11:39 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:dconnitt@f=
use.net">Dave Connitt</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Trium=
phs</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [TR] IRS rear shock question</p></div><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I can't recall exa=
ctly what I did there, but changing the standard hardware is a good place t=
o start.=C2=A0 The fatter the purchase on the shock side the better.=C2=A0 =
I think I used a grade8 hard washer to grab as much of the shock as possibl=
e under the bolt head. =C2=A0I think an allen head bolt might provide a bet=
ter purchase for tightening, or I ground down a 9/16&quot; socket to better=
 fit the bolt head.=C2=A0 I think I used a longer bolts too.=C2=A0 Adding a=
nother nut to lock things is place.=C2=A0 If I get a chance, I'll take a go=
od look at what I did and get back to you.=C2=A0 The frame mount can get wo=
rn out of round too, if it's been loose a few times.=C2=A0 </p><p class=3DM=
soNormal>Dave H.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&gt; On 05/16/2022 6:01 PM Dave Co=
nnitt &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&gt; </p><p =
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From: Cliff Hansen <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 17:51:56 +0000

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Is that bolt 3/8 or 7/16=94?  The parts manual assigns HU1010, which the ha=
rdware catalog translates as 7/16=94 UNF x 1.25=94. If I was to guess, I=92=
d say the parts manual is wrong; I don=92t recall that bolt being 7/16=94.

Cliff

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Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2022 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [TR] IRS rear shock question

I started using ARP bolts that have a different size socket for the head bu=
t still is 3/8-24 in size. With these there is
Room for the socket and can get them really tight.

Summit has them in 3/8 =96 24 X1.00 with a head that is 12 point and takes =
a 7/16 socket. Also has a built in flange washer. With this you can use a 7=
/16 12 point socket. Summit number ARP-744-1000. Package of 5 $12.59

I also use a 3/8-24 nut that also takes a 7/16 12 point socket. Summit numb=
er ARP-300-8332. Package of
10 $13.59

A regular 3/8 =96 24 bolt takes a 9/16 socket.

Works for me
Dean Tetterton

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Sent: Monday, May 16, 2022 11:39 PM
team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] IRS rear shock question

I can't recall exactly what I did there, but changing the standard hardware=
 is a good place to start.  The fatter the purchase on the shock side the b=
etter.  I think I used a grade8 hard washer to grab as much of the shock as=
 possible under the bolt head.  I think an allen head bolt might provide a =
better purchase for tightening, or I ground down a 9/16" socket to better f=
it the bolt head.  I think I used a longer bolts too.  Adding another nut t=
o lock things is place.  If I get a chance, I'll take a good look at what I=
 did and get back to you.  The frame mount can get worn out of round too, i=
f it's been loose a few times.
Dave H.
> On 05/16/2022 6:01 PM Dave Connitt <[email-masked]> wrote:

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Is that bolt 3/8 or 7/16=94?&nbsp; The parts manual =
assigns HU1010, which the hardware catalog translates as 7/16=94 UNF x 1.25=
=94. If I was to guess, I=92d say the parts manual is wrong; I don=92t reca=
ll that bolt being 7/16=94.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cliff</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink=
/?LinkId=3D550986">
Mail</a> for Windows</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"border:none;padding:0in"><b>From: </b><a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Dean</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, May 17, 2022 11:20 AM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">DAVE HOGYE</a>; <a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">
Dave Connitt</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Triumphs</a><b=
r>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [TR] IRS rear shock question</p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I started using ARP bolts that have a different size=
 socket for the head but still is 3/8-24 in size. With these there is<o:p><=
/o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Room for the socket and can get them really tight.<o=
:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Summit has them in 3/8 =96 24 X1.00 with a head that=
 is 12 point and takes a 7/16 socket. Also has a built in flange washer. Wi=
th this you can use a 7/16 12 point socket. Summit number ARP-744-1000. Pac=
kage of 5 $12.59<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I also use a 3/8-24 nut that also takes a 7/16 12 po=
int socket. Summit number ARP-300-8332. Package of
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">10 $13.59<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">A regular 3/8 =96 24 bolt takes a 9/16 socket.<o:p><=
/o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Works for me<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dean Tetterton<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink=
/?LinkId=3D550986">
Mail</a> for Windows<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">=
DAVE HOGYE</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Monday, May 16, 2022 11:39 PM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Dave Connitt</a>; <a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">
Triumphs</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [TR] IRS rear shock question<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I can't recall exactly what I did there, but changin=
g the standard hardware is a good place to start.&nbsp; The fatter the purc=
hase on the shock side the better.&nbsp; I think I used a grade8 hard washe=
r to grab as much of the shock as possible under
 the bolt head. &nbsp;I think an allen head bolt might provide a better pur=
chase for tightening, or I ground down a 9/16&quot; socket to better fit th=
e bolt head.&nbsp; I think I used a longer bolts too.&nbsp; Adding another =
nut to lock things is place.&nbsp; If I get a chance, I'll
 take a good look at what I did and get back to you.&nbsp; The frame mount =
can get worn out of round too, if it's been loose a few times.&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dave H.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&gt; On 05/16/2022 6:01 PM Dave Connitt &lt;dconnitt=
@fuse.net&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&gt; <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&gt;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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From: DAVE HOGYE <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 20:19:42 -0700 (PDT)

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Excellent information, Dean. =20
I appreciate your expert tips and suggestions.
I'll be looking into these fasteners for this application.
With due respect,
Dave H.

>     On 05/17/2022 10:19 AM Dean <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
>=20
>=20
>     I started using ARP bolts that have a different size socket for the h=
ead but still is 3/8-24 in size. With these there is
>=20
>=20
>=20
>     Summit has them in 3/8 =E2=80=93 24 X1.00 with a head that is 12 poin=
t and takes a 7/16 socket. Also has a built in flange washer. With this you=
 can use a 7/16 12 point socket. Summit number ARP-744-1000. Package of 5 $=
12.59
>=20
>=20
>     I also use a 3/8-24 nut that also takes a 7/16 12 point socket. Summi=
t number ARP-300-8332. Package of
>=20
>     10 $13.59
>=20
>=20
>     A regular 3/8 =E2=80=93 24 bolt takes a 9/16 socket.
>=20
>=20
>     Works for me
>=20
>     Dean Tetterton
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>     Sent from Mail https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986 for W=
indows
>=20
>=20
>     From: DAVE HOGYE mailto:[email-masked]
>     To: Dave Connitt mailto:[email-masked] ; Triumphs mailto:triumphs@=
autox.team.net
>=20
>=20
>     I can't recall exactly what I did there, but changing the standard ha=
rdware is a good place to start.  The fatter the purchase on the shock side=
 the better.  I think I used a grade8 hard washer to grab as much of the sh=
ock as possible under the bolt head.  I think an allen head bolt might prov=
ide a better purchase for tightening, or I ground down a 9/16" socket to be=
tter fit the bolt head.  I think I used a longer bolts too.  Adding another=
 nut to lock things is place.  If I get a chance, I'll take a good look at =
what I did and get back to you.  The frame mount can get worn out of round =
too, if it's been loose a few times.=20
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   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Excellent infor=
mation, Dean.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>
   <br>
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   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">I appreciate yo=
ur expert tips and suggestions.</span>
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   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">With due respec=
t,</span>
  </div>
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   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Dave H.</span>
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  <blockquote type=3D"cite">
   <div>
    On 05/17/2022 10:19 AM Dean &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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    <br>
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   <div class=3D"WordSection1">
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I started using ARP bolts that have a different =
size socket for the head but still is 3/8-24 in size. With these there is</=
p>
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Room for the socket and can get them really tigh=
t.</p>
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Summit has them in 3/8 =E2=80=93 24 X1.00 with a=
 head that is 12 point and takes a 7/16 socket. Also has a built in flange =
washer. With this you can use a 7/16 12 point socket. Summit number ARP-744=
-1000. Package of 5 $12.59</p>
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I also use a 3/8-24 nut that also takes a 7/16 1=
2 point socket. Summit number ARP-300-8332. Package of</p>
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">10 $13.59</p>
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">A regular 3/8 =E2=80=93 24 bolt takes a 9/16 soc=
ket.</p>
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Works for me</p>
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dean Tetterton</p>
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fw=
link/?LinkId=3D550986">Mail</a> for Windows</p>
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
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olid #E1E1E1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;">
     <p style=3D"border: none; padding: 0in;" class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong>F=
rom: </strong><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">DAVE HOGYE</a><br><str=
ong>Sent: </strong>Monday, May 16, 2022 11:39 PM<br><strong>To: </strong><a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Dave Connitt</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:triu=
[email-masked]">Triumphs</a><br><strong>Subject: </strong>Re: [TR] IRS=
 rear shock question</p>
    </div>
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I can't recall exactly what I did there, but cha=
nging the standard hardware is a good place to start.&nbsp; The fatter the =
purchase on the shock side the better.&nbsp; I think I used a grade8 hard w=
asher to grab as much of the shock as possible under the bolt head. &nbsp;I=
 think an allen head bolt might provide a better purchase for tightening, o=
r I ground down a 9/16" socket to better fit the bolt head.&nbsp; I think I=
 used a longer bolts too.&nbsp; Adding another nut to lock things is place.=
&nbsp; If I get a chance, I'll take a good look at what I did and get back =
to you.&nbsp; The frame mount can get worn out of round too, if it's been l=
oose a few times.&nbsp;</p>
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p><p class=3DMsoNormal>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I m=
issed the part about being in reference to IRS cars and had solid axle cars=
 on my mind. The bolts on the IRS cars might need to be different lengths o=
r thread.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sorry about the mix up but I was a TR3 ra=
cer and not a IRS car racer.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I blame it on age=E2=
=80=A6.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>D=
ean</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.micros=
oft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986">Mail</a> for Windows</p><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div style=3D'mso-element:para-border-div;border:no=
ne;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMso=
Normal style=3D'border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:dlh=
[email-masked]">DAVE HOGYE</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, May 17, 2022 11:1=
9 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Dean</a>; <a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Dave Connitt</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs=
@autox.team.net">Triumphs</a><br><b>Subject: </b>RE: [TR] IRS rear shock qu=
estion</p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DM=
soNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif=
;color:#333333'>Excellent information, Dean.&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-fa=
mily:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'>I appreciate your expert tips an=
d suggestions. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'=
>I'll be looking into these fasteners for this application. <o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font=
-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'>With due respect, <o:p></o:p>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;=
font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Dave H. <o:p></o:p></span=
></p></div><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal>On 05/17/2022 10:19 AM Dean &lt;[email-masked]&g=
t; wrote: <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><=
/p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I=
 started using ARP bolts that have a different size socket for the head but=
 still is 3/8-24 in size. With these there is</p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=
=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Room for the socket=
 and can get them really tight.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin=
-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DM=
soNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Summi=
t has them in 3/8 =E2=80=93 24 X1.00 with a head that is 12 point and takes=
 a 7/16 socket. Also has a built in flange washer. With this you can use a =
7/16 12 point socket. Summit number ARP-744-1000. Package of 5 $12.59</p><p=
 class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:a=
uto'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:=
auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I also use a 3/8-24 nut that also takes a =
7/16 12 point socket. Summit number ARP-300-8332. Package of</p><p class=3D=
MsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>10 $=
13.59</p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-b=
ottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-marg=
in-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>A regular 3/8 =E2=80=93 24 bolt=
 takes a 9/16 socket.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:a=
uto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal s=
tyle=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Works for me</p=
><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-al=
t:auto'>Dean Tetterton</p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:=
auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bot=
tom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin=
-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DM=
soNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Sent =
from <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986">Mail</a> =
for Windows</p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-ma=
rgin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div style=3D'border:none;border=
-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal st=
yle=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><strong><span st=
yle=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From: </span></strong><a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]">DAVE HOGYE</a><br><strong><span style=3D'font-fa=
mily:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Sent: </span></strong>Monday, May 16, 2022 11:39=
 PM<br><strong><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>To: </span>=
</strong><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Dave Connitt</a>; <a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]">Triumphs</a><br><strong><span style=3D'font=
-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Subject: </span></strong>Re: [TR] IRS rear sh=
ock question</p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto=
;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal styl=
e=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I can't recall exa=
ctly what I did there, but changing the standard hardware is a good place t=
o start.&nbsp; The fatter the purchase on the shock side the better.&nbsp; =
I think I used a grade8 hard washer to grab as much of the shock as possibl=
e under the bolt head. &nbsp;I think an allen head bolt might provide a bet=
ter purchase for tightening, or I ground down a 9/16&quot; socket to better=
 fit the bolt head.&nbsp; I think I used a longer bolts too.&nbsp; Adding a=
nother nut to lock things is place.&nbsp; If I get a chance, I'll take a go=
od look at what I did and get back to you.&nbsp; The frame mount can get wo=
rn out of round too, if it's been loose a few times.&nbsp;</p><p class=3DMs=
oNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Dave H=
.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-botto=
m-alt:auto'>&gt; On 05/16/2022 6:01 PM Dave Connitt &lt;[email-masked]&g=
t; wrote:</p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-marg=
in-bottom-alt:auto'>&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'=
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Of the car?

-------- Original message --------
From: Dean <[email-masked]>
Date: 5/18/22 12:34 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: DAVE HOGYE <[email-masked]>, Dave Connitt <[email-masked]>, Tri=
umphs <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] IRS rear shock question

All
         I missed the part about being in reference to IRS cars and had sol=
id axle cars on my mind. The bolts on the IRS cars might need to be differe=
nt lengths or thread.
Sorry about the mix up but I was a TR3 racer and not a IRS car racer.
I blame it on age=85.

Dean

Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2022 11:19 PM
Subject: RE: [TR] IRS rear shock question

Excellent information, Dean.
I appreciate your expert tips and suggestions.
I'll be looking into these fasteners for this application.
With due respect,
Dave H.
On 05/17/2022 10:19 AM Dean <[email-masked]> wrote:

Works for me
Dean Tetterton

> On 05/16/2022 6:01 PM Dave Connitt <[email-masked]> wrote:

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Of the car?
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<div>From: Dean &lt;[email-masked]&gt; </div>
<div>Date: 5/18/22 12:34 PM (GMT-06:00) </div>
<div>To: DAVE HOGYE &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, Dave Connitt &lt;dconnitt@=
fuse.net&gt;, Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;
</div>
<div>Subject: Re: [TR] IRS rear shock question </div>
<div><br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">All</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I m=
issed the part about being in reference to IRS cars and had solid axle cars=
 on my mind. The bolts on the IRS cars might need to be different lengths o=
r thread.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sorry about the mix up but I was a TR3 racer and not=
 a IRS car racer.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I blame it on age=85.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dean</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink=
/?LinkId=3D550986">
Mail</a> for Windows</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<div style=3D"border:none; border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt; padding:3.0pt 0i=
n 0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"border:none; padding:0in"><b>From: </b><a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">DAVE HOGYE</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, May 17, 2022 11:19 PM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Dean</a>; <a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]">
Dave Connitt</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Triumphs</a><b=
r>
<b>Subject: </b>RE: [TR] IRS rear shock question</p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:&quot;H=
elvetica&quot;,sans-serif; color:#333333">Excellent information, Dean.&nbsp=
;&nbsp;
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:&quot;H=
elvetica&quot;,sans-serif; color:#333333">I appreciate your expert tips and=
 suggestions.
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:&quot;H=
elvetica&quot;,sans-serif; color:#333333">I'll be looking into these fasten=
ers for this application.
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:&quot;H=
elvetica&quot;,sans-serif; color:#333333">With due respect,
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:&quot;H=
elvetica&quot;,sans-serif; color:#333333">Dave H.
</span></p>
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<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt; margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 05/17/2022 10:19 AM Dean &lt;[email-masked]=
&gt; wrote: </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"">I started using ARP bolts that have a dif=
ferent size socket for the head but still is 3/8-24 in size. With these the=
re is</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"">Room for the socket and can get them real=
ly tight.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"">Summit has them in 3/8 =96 24 X1.00 with =
a head that is 12 point and takes a 7/16 socket. Also has a built in flange=
 washer. With this you can use a 7/16 12 point socket. Summit number ARP-74=
4-1000. Package of 5 $12.59</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"">I also use a 3/8-24 nut that also takes a=
 7/16 12 point socket. Summit number ARP-300-8332. Package of</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"">10 $13.59</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"">A regular 3/8 =96 24 bolt takes a 9/16 so=
cket.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"">Works for me</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"">Dean Tetterton</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"">Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft=
.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986">
Mail</a> for Windows</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"">&nbsp;</p>
<div style=3D"border:none; border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt; padding:3.0pt 0i=
n 0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D""><strong><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;=
Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:
</span></strong><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">DAVE HOGYE</a><br>
<strong><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Sent: </=
span></strong>Monday, May 16, 2022 11:39 PM<br>
<strong><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">To: </sp=
an></strong><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Dave Connitt</a>;
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Triumphs</a><br>
<strong><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Subject:=
 </span></strong>Re: [TR] IRS rear shock question</p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"">I can't recall exactly what I did there, =
but changing the standard hardware is a good place to start.&nbsp; The fatt=
er the purchase on the shock side the better.&nbsp; I think I used a grade8=
 hard washer to grab as much of the shock as possible
 under the bolt head. &nbsp;I think an allen head bolt might provide a bett=
er purchase for tightening, or I ground down a 9/16&quot; socket to better =
fit the bolt head.&nbsp; I think I used a longer bolts too.&nbsp; Adding an=
other nut to lock things is place.&nbsp; If I get a chance,
 I'll take a good look at what I did and get back to you.&nbsp; The frame m=
ount can get worn out of round too, if it's been loose a few times.&nbsp;</=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"">Dave H.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"">&gt; On 05/16/2022 6:01 PM Dave Connitt &=
lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"">&gt;&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"">&gt;&nbsp;</p>
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