Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk

From: Greg Lemon <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 09:27:37 -0600

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I chased after a "rear end" clunk for years.  Decided it was in the
differential, and decided to replace it with a Nissan R200 limited slip
after replacing u-joints and checking mounts many times.  When I was
installing the differential and new, shortened drive shaft I discovered one
of the transmission mount bolts had gone missing.

If you are not finding it, may be worth expanding your search, however, the
only when cold thing is a bit of a head scratcher.

BTW, very glad I did the diff swap, even though it was not the cause of the
clunk, car is much quieter, especially  with the top up.

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 9:10 AM Alex & Janet Thomson <[email-masked]=
wrote:

> Don=E2=80=99t rule out worn driveshaft U-joints or worn/loose mounting bu=
shings on
> the differential itself.
>
>
>
> Alex Thomson
>
>
>
> *From:* 6pack [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of *
> [email-masked]
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:43 AM
> *To:* [email-masked]
> *Subject:* [6pack] Rear end clunk
>
>
>
> Twenty years of rear end clunk when I put it in reverse with cold engine
> and I'm tired of it. But as soon as the engine warms up it disappears and=
 i
> dismiss it. Do I bite the bullet and get it checked out? I'm sure my
> mechanic will say get it fixed. And how much do you think a repaired rear
> end will cost me?
>
>
>
> Al in CT with 74 French Blue
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<div dir=3D"auto">I chased after a &quot;rear end&quot; clunk for years.=C2=
=A0 Decided it was in the differential, and decided to replace it with a Ni=
ssan R200 limited slip after replacing u-joints and checking mounts many ti=
mes.=C2=A0 When I was installing the differential and new, shortened drive =
shaft I discovered one of the transmission mount bolts had gone missing.<di=
v dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">If you are not finding it, may b=
e worth expanding your search, however, the only when cold thing is a bit o=
f a head scratcher.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">BTW,=
 very glad I did the diff swap, even though it was not the cause of the clu=
nk, car is much quieter, especially=C2=A0 with the top up.</div><div dir=3D=
"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Greg Lemon</div><div dir=3D"auto">TR250<=
/div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_a=
ttr">On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 9:10 AM Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-le=
ft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=
=3D"purple"><div class=3D"m_4306537168848117474WordSection1"><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&qu=
ot;;color:#1f497d">Don=E2=80=99t rule out worn driveshaft U-joints or worn/=
loose mounting bushings on the differential itself.<u></u><u></u></span></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Alex Thomson<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans=
-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> 6pack [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">6pack-bo=
[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href=3D"mailto:otral@juno.=
com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Sent:</b=
> Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:43 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:6pack@=
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a><br><b>Subject:</b> [6pack] Rear end clunk<u></u><u></u></span></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Twenty=
 years of rear end clunk when I put it in reverse with cold engine and I&#3=
9;m tired of it. But as soon as the engine warms up it disappears and i dis=
miss it. Do I bite the bullet and get it checked out? I&#39;m sure my mecha=
nic will say get it fixed. And how much do you think a repaired rear end wi=
ll cost me?=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=
<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Al in CT with 74 French=
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From: dave northrup <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 15:41:46 +0000

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From: Sujit Roy <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 07:49:04 -0800

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If the clunk goes away when warm, maybe as a stop gap use a different oil.
I have a Stag. Play in UJs cause clunks but since you mentioned it goes
away when warm,  likely to be diff. The Stag uses a similar setup.
Rebuilding a diff in USA is about $1500. Sujit

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 7:42 AM dave northrup <[email-masked]> wrote:

> We put a Nissan Q45 limited slip diff in our TR6.  Extremely quiet and
> reliable.  The old diff was howling so we had to do something!
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs <[email-masked]> *On Behalf Of *Greg
> Lemon
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:28 AM
> *To:* Alex & Janet Thomson <[email-masked]>; Triumphs <
> [email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk
>
>
>
> installing the differential and new, shortened drive shaft I discovered o=
ne
> If you are not finding it, may be worth expanding your search, however,
> the only when cold thing is a bit of a head scratcher.
>
>
>
> BTW, very glad I did the diff swap, even though it was not the cause of
> the clunk, car is much quieter, especially  with the top up.
>
>
>
> Greg Lemon
>
> TR250
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 9:10 AM Alex & Janet Thomson <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">If the clunk goes away when warm, maybe as a stop gap use=
 a different oil. I have a Stag. Play in UJs cause clunks but since you men=
tioned it goes away when warm,=C2=A0 likely to be diff. The Stag uses a sim=
ilar setup. Rebuilding a diff in USA is about $1500. Sujit</div><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 27, 2=
022, 7:42 AM dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">dave@ran=
teer.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" style=3D"word-wrap:break=
-word">
<div class=3D"m_8849271094309171725WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">We put a Nissan Q45 limited slip diff in our TR6.=C2=
=A0 Extremely quiet and reliable.=C2=A0 The old diff was howling so we had =
to do something!<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">triumphs-boun=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Greg Lemon<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:28 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:aljlthomson@chart=
er.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt=
;; Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank=
" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I chased after a &quot;rear end&quot; clunk for year=
s.=C2=A0 Decided it was in the differential, and decided to replace it with=
 a Nissan R200 limited slip after replacing u-joints and checking mounts ma=
ny times.=C2=A0 When I was installing the differential
 and new, shortened drive shaft I discovered one of the transmission mount =
bolts had gone missing.<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">If you are not finding it, may be worth expanding yo=
ur search, however, the only when cold thing is a bit of a head scratcher.<=
u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">BTW, very glad I did the diff swap, even though it w=
as not the cause of the clunk, car is much quieter, especially=C2=A0 with t=
he top up.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Greg Lemon<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">TR250<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 9:10 AM Alex &amp; Janet Thoms=
on &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"=
noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d">Don=E2=80=99t rule out=
 worn driveshaft U-joints or worn/loose mounting bushings on the differenti=
al itself.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u=
></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d">Alex Thomson</span><u>=
</u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u=
></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif"> 6pack [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">6pack-bo=
[email-masked]</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:43 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D=
"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [6pack] Rear end clunk</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Twenty years of rear end clunk when I put it in reve=
rse with cold engine and I&#39;m tired of it. But as soon as the engine war=
ms up it disappears and i dismiss it. Do I bite the bullet
 and get it checked out? I&#39;m sure my mechanic will say get it fixed. An=
d how much do you think a repaired rear end will cost me?=C2=A0<u></u><u></=
u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Al in CT with 74 French Blue<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>
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> reliable.  The old diff was howling so we had to do something!
Had to do something? And you just couldn't rebuild it with new ring & 
pinion & bearings?????

In the late 80s my TR3's diff was screaming. The Ring & Pinion gears had 
worn to the point where the gears were sharply pointed. A rebuild with 
new gears left it quiet.  A few years later British Frame & Engine had a 
sale on limited slips that fit the TR3, so my 3 now has limited slip 
diff inside the TR3 axle housing. All without going to Japanese assembly 
swaps. I suspect your TR6's diff was quiet and reliable for decades 
before it wore out. If an assembly provides good decades long service 
before it wears out, why not rebuild it to new spec instead of running 
out and replacing it with a non-Triumph assemblies?

  TeriAnn

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        <p class="MsoNormal">We put a Nissan Q45 limited slip diff in
          our TR6.  Extremely quiet and reliable.  The old diff was
          howling so we had to do something!</p>
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    <p>Had to do something? And you just couldn't rebuild it with new
      ring &amp; pinion &amp; bearings?????</p>
    <p>In the late 80s my TR3's diff was screaming. The Ring &amp;
      Pinion gears had worn to the point where the gears were sharply
      pointed. A rebuild with new gears left it quiet.  A few years
      later British Frame &amp; Engine had a sale on limited slips that
      fit the TR3, so my 3 now has limited slip diff inside the TR3 axle
      housing. All without going to Japanese assembly swaps. I suspect
      your TR6's diff was quiet and reliable for decades before it wore
      out. If an assembly provides good decades long service before it
      wears out, why not rebuild it to new spec instead of running out
      and replacing it with a non-Triumph assemblies?<br>
    </p>
    <p> TeriAnn<br>
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Low-speed =93clunk=94 in my TR4A IRS turned out to be worn splines in the a=
xle shafts. I repacked the splines with grease to get by for a while, I=92l=
l fix it properly when I decide it bothers me enough. Why Triumph didn=92t =
put a grease fitting on the sliding joint is a mystery to me.

Cliff

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Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 8:29 AM
[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk

I chased after a "rear end" clunk for years.  Decided it was in the differe=
ntial, and decided to replace it with a Nissan R200 limited slip after repl=
acing u-joints and checking mounts many times.  When I was installing the d=
ifferential and new, shortened drive shaft I discovered one of the transmis=
sion mount bolts had gone missing.

If you are not finding it, may be worth expanding your search, however, the=
 only when cold thing is a bit of a head scratcher.

BTW, very glad I did the diff swap, even though it was not the cause of the=
 clunk, car is much quieter, especially  with the top up.

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 9:10 AM Alex & Janet Thomson <[email-masked]=
Don=92t rule out worn driveshaft U-joints or worn/loose mounting bushings o=
n the differential itself.

Alex Thomson

Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:43 AM
Subject: [6pack] Rear end clunk

Twenty years of rear end clunk when I put it in reverse with cold engine an=
d I'm tired of it. But as soon as the engine warms up it disappears and i d=
ismiss it. Do I bite the bullet and get it checked out? I'm sure my mechani=
c will say get it fixed. And how much do you think a repaired rear end will=
 cost me?

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Low-speed =93clunk=94 in my TR4A IRS turned out to b=
e worn splines in the axle shafts. I repacked the splines with grease to ge=
t by for a while, I=92ll fix it properly when I decide it bothers me enough=
. Why Triumph didn=92t put a grease fitting
 on the sliding joint is a mystery to me.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cliff</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"border:none;padding:0in"><b>From: </b><a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Greg Lemon</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, January 27, 2022 8:29 AM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Alex &amp; Janet Thom=
son</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">
Triumphs</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk</p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I chased after a &quot;rear end&quot; clunk for year=
s.&nbsp; Decided it was in the differential, and decided to replace it with=
 a Nissan R200 limited slip after replacing u-joints and checking mounts ma=
ny times.&nbsp; When I was installing the differential
 and new, shortened drive shaft I discovered one of the transmission mount =
bolts had gone missing.<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">If you are not finding it, may be worth expanding yo=
ur search, however, the only when cold thing is a bit of a head scratcher.<=
o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">BTW, very glad I did the diff swap, even though it w=
as not the cause of the clunk, car is much quieter, especially&nbsp; with t=
he top up.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Greg Lemon<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">TR250<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 9:10 AM Alex &amp; Janet Thoms=
on &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Don=92t rule out worn driveshaft U-j=
oints or worn/loose mounting bushings on the differential itself.</span></p=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Alex Thomson</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,=
sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif"> 6pack [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:6pack-bounces@=
autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">otr=
[email-masked]</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:43 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">6pack@=
autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [6pack] Rear end clunk</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">&nbsp;</p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">Twenty years of rear end clunk when I put it in reverse with cold =
engine and I'm tired of it. But as soon as the engine warms up it disappear=
s and i dismiss it. Do I bite the bullet
 and get it checked out? I'm sure my mechanic will say get it fixed. And ho=
w much do you think a repaired rear end will cost me?&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
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Will echo what Dave said, I will tackle about anything, but won't do
differentials, nor do I have anybody local I trust to do it.  The
differentials were generally pretty quiet when new, but from what I have
read and experienced a rebuilt may or may not whine a little at certain
speeds, pretty hit or miss, the one I replaced was rebuilt and made a lot
of noise.  Plus the Nissan unit was designed to take much higher torque and
hp than the Triumph diff, plus limited slip (I autocross too).

I don't think the diff swap changes the character of the car at all (kind
of like pertronix, reversible, doesn't really change the car, just modern
and pretty bulletproof) I hear a little more engine noise and a little less
differential, that is a good thing.

I converted my existing transmission to overdrive rather than going with
the five speed conversion because I like the whole Triumph driving
experience too.

Ultimately, you own your car, do what you want with it.

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 10:43 AM dave northrup <[email-masked]> wrote:

> The TR6 rebuild requires special tools, and the cost of a rebuild was not
> far from the cost of replacing it.
>
>
>
> Why replace with a Japanese part?  Quality, cost, plus limited slip.  We
> autocross this thing so that=E2=80=99s a valuable upgrade.
>
>
>
> I agree in principle with your comment.  I like the car to be =E2=80=9Cin=
 keeping=E2=80=9D
> with the original, at least period upgrades.  I=E2=80=99m not a fan of, f=
or
> example, modern engine swaps.  You could, for example, say the same about
> wheels.  Those original wheels are poor quality, and refurbishing them is
> more expensive than replacing them.  Same thing with the Nissan diff; muc=
h
> better quality and performance at a similar cost so that makes sense.
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs <[email-masked]> *On Behalf Of *TeriAnn
> J. Wakeman
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2022 10:10 AM
> *To:* [email-masked]
> worn to the point where the gears were sharply pointed. A rebuild with ne=
w
> gears left it quiet.  A few years later British Frame & Engine had a sale
> on limited slips that fit the TR3, so my 3 now has limited slip diff insi=
de
> the TR3 axle housing. All without going to Japanese assembly swaps. I
> suspect your TR6's diff was quiet and reliable for decades before it wore
> out. If an assembly provides good decades long service before it wears ou=
t,
> why not rebuild it to new spec instead of running out and replacing it wi=
th
> a non-Triumph assemblies?
>
>  TeriAnn
>
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/[email-masked]
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<div dir=3D"auto">Will echo what Dave said, I will tackle about anything, b=
ut won&#39;t do differentials, nor do I have anybody local I trust to do it=
.=C2=A0 The differentials were generally pretty quiet when new, but from wh=
at I have read and experienced a rebuilt may or may not whine a little at c=
ertain speeds, pretty hit or miss, the one I replaced was rebuilt and made =
a lot of noise.=C2=A0 Plus the Nissan unit was designed to take much higher=
 torque and hp than the Triumph diff, plus limited slip (I autocross too).<=
div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I don&#39;t think the diff swa=
p changes the character of the car at all (kind of like pertronix, reversib=
le, doesn&#39;t really change the car, just modern and pretty bulletproof) =
I hear a little more engine noise and a little less differential, that is a=
 good thing.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"=
>I converted my existing transmission to overdrive rather than going with t=
he five speed conversion because I like the whole Triumph driving experienc=
e too.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Ultimately, you o=
wn your car, do what you want with it.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><=
br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Greg Lemon</div><div dir=3D"auto">TR250</div></d=
iv><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On =
Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 10:43 AM dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@rantee=
r.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex">

<div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" style=3D"word-wrap:break=
-word">
<div class=3D"m_965467113181523091WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The TR6 rebuild requires special tools, and the cost=
 of a rebuild was not far from the cost of replacing it.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Why replace with a Japanese part?=C2=A0 Quality, cos=
t, plus limited slip.=C2=A0 We autocross this thing so that=E2=80=99s a val=
uable upgrade.=C2=A0
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I agree in principle with your comment.=C2=A0 I like=
 the car to be =E2=80=9Cin keeping=E2=80=9D with the original, at least per=
iod upgrades.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m not a fan of, for example, modern engine sw=
aps.=C2=A0 You could, for example, say the same about wheels.=C2=A0 Those o=
riginal
 wheels are poor quality, and refurbishing them is more expensive than repl=
acing them.=C2=A0 Same thing with the Nissan diff; much better quality and =
performance at a similar cost so that makes sense.
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">triumphs-boun=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of
</b>TeriAnn J. Wakeman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 27, 2022 10:10 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 1/27/22 7:41 AM, dave northrup wrote:<u></u><u></=
u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">We put a Nissan Q45 limited slip diff in our TR6.=C2=
=A0 Extremely quiet and reliable.=C2=A0 The old diff was howling so we had =
to do something!<u></u><u></u></p>
</blockquote>
<p>Had to do something? And you just couldn&#39;t rebuild it with new ring =
&amp; pinion &amp; bearings?????<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>In the late 80s my TR3&#39;s diff was screaming. The Ring &amp; Pinion g=
ears had worn to the point where the gears were sharply pointed. A rebuild =
with new gears left it quiet.=C2=A0 A few years later British Frame &amp; E=
ngine had a sale on limited slips that fit the TR3,
 so my 3 now has limited slip diff inside the TR3 axle housing. All without=
 going to Japanese assembly swaps. I suspect your TR6&#39;s diff was quiet =
and reliable for decades before it wore out. If an assembly provides good d=
ecades long service before it wears
 out, why not rebuild it to new spec instead of running out and replacing i=
t with a non-Triumph assemblies?<u></u><u></u></p>
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Was this an easy job to retrofit? Or did it require any modifications?

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Thanks,

Jeff N.

=E2=80=9972 TR6

=20

From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
Greg Lemon
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 10:28 AM
To: Alex & Janet Thomson <[email-masked]>; Triumphs =
<[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk

=20

I chased after a "rear end" clunk for years.  Decided it was in the =
differential, and decided to replace it with a Nissan R200 limited slip =
after replacing u-joints and checking mounts many times.  When I was =
installing the differential and new, shortened drive shaft I discovered =
one of the transmission mount bolts had gone missing.

=20

If you are not finding it, may be worth expanding your search, however, =
the only when cold thing is a bit of a head scratcher.

=20

BTW, very glad I did the diff swap, even though it was not the cause of =
the clunk, car is much quieter, especially  with the top up.

=20

Greg Lemon

TR250

=20

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 9:10 AM Alex & Janet Thomson =

Don=E2=80=99t rule out worn driveshaft U-joints or worn/loose mounting =
bushings on the differential itself.

=20

Alex Thomson

=20

From: 6pack [mailto:[email-masked] =
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:43 AM
Subject: [6pack] Rear end clunk

=20

Twenty years of rear end clunk when I put it in reverse with cold engine =
and I'm tired of it. But as soon as the engine warms up it disappears =
and i dismiss it. Do I bite the bullet and get it checked out? I'm sure =
my mechanic will say get it fixed. And how much do you think a repaired =
rear end will cost me?=20

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>Jeff N.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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>=E2=80=9972 TR6<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Greg Lemon<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 27, 2022 10:28 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> Alex &amp; Janet Thomson =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;; Triumphs =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear =
end clunk<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
chased after a &quot;rear end&quot; clunk for years.&nbsp; Decided it =
was in the differential, and decided to replace it with a Nissan R200 =
limited slip after replacing u-joints and checking mounts many =
times.&nbsp; When I was installing the differential and new, shortened =
drive shaft I discovered one of the transmission mount bolts had gone =
missing.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>If you are not finding it, may be worth expanding your =
search, however, the only when cold thing is a bit of a head =
scratcher.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>BTW, very glad I did the diff swap, even though it was =
not the cause of the clunk, car is much quieter, especially&nbsp; with =
the top up.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Greg Lemon<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>TR250<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 9:10 AM Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
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style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Don=E2=80=99t =
rule out worn driveshaft U-joints or worn/loose mounting bushings on the =
differential itself.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
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style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
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style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:=
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b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> =
6pack [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January =
27, 2022 9:43 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [6pack] =
Rear end clunk</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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years of rear end clunk when I put it in reverse with cold engine and =
I'm tired of it. But as soon as the engine warms up it disappears and i =
dismiss it. Do I bite the bullet and get it checked out? I'm sure my =
mechanic will say get it fixed. And how much do you think a repaired =
rear end will cost me?&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
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Hi Jeff,
I ended up replacing/upgrading my worn out TR4A IRS differential plus Richar=
d Good rear hubs and CV style half shafts by myself. I would definitely reco=
mmend buying or borrowing a transmission jack. I picked up one from Harbor Fre=
ight for less than $100.00.
It was definitely worth it. Also look for a diff with a 3.688:1 ratio, which=
 is fairly common. I also replaced the pinion and stub axle seals before I i=
nstalled it.
Dave Connitt

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 27, 2022, at 12:31 PM, Jeff Nathanson <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> Greg,
> =20
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emon
> To: Alex & Janet Thomson <[email-masked]>; Triumphs <triumphs@aut=
ox.team.net>
> I chased after a "rear end" clunk for years.  Decided it was in the differ=
ential, and decided to replace it with a Nissan R200 limited slip after repl=
acing u-joints and checking mounts many times.  When I was installing the di=
fferential and new, shortened drive shaft I discovered one of the transmissi=
on mount bolts had gone missing.
> =20
> If you are not finding it, may be worth expanding your search, however, th=
e only when cold thing is a bit of a head scratcher.
> =20
> BTW, very glad I did the diff swap, even though it was not the cause of th=
e clunk, car is much quieter, especially  with the top up.
> =20
> Greg Lemon
> TR250
> =20
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 9:10 AM Alex & Janet Thomson <[email-masked]=
t> wrote:
> Don=E2=80=99t rule out worn driveshaft U-joints or worn/loose mounting bus=
hings on the differential itself.
> =20
> Alex Thomson
> =20
> From: 6pack [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of otral@juno.=
com
> To: [email-masked]
> Twenty years of rear end clunk when I put it in reverse with cold engine a=
nd I'm tired of it. But as soon as the engine warms up it disappears and i d=
ismiss it. Do I bite the bullet and get it checked out? I'm sure my mechanic=
 will say get it fixed. And how much do you think a repaired rear end will c=
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Hi Jeff,<div>I ended up replacing/upgrading=
 my worn out TR4A IRS differential plus Richard Good rear hubs and CV style h=
alf shafts by myself. I would definitely recommend buying or borrowing a tra=
nsmission jack. I picked up one from Harbor Freight for less than $100.00.</=
div><div>It was definitely worth it. Also look for a diff with a 3.688:1 rat=
io, which is fairly common. I also replaced the pinion and stub axle seals b=
efore I installed it.</div><div>Dave Connitt<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent fr=
om my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 27, 2=
022, at 12:31 PM, Jeff Nathanson &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></=
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quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Jeff N.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"Mso=
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rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-s=
erif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:=
</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,s=
ans-serif"> Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf O=
f </b>Greg Lemon<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 27, 2022 10:28 AM<br><b>T=
o:</b> Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; Triumphs &l=
t;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear end c=
lunk<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">I chased after a "rear end" clunk for years.&nbsp; Dec=
ided it was in the differential, and decided to replace it with a Nissan R20=
0 limited slip after replacing u-joints and checking mounts many times.&nbsp=
; When I was installing the differential and new, shortened drive shaft I di=
scovered one of the transmission mount bolts had gone missing.<o:p></o:p></p=
><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">If you are not finding it, may be worth expanding your search, howev=
er, the only when cold thing is a bit of a head scratcher.<o:p></o:p></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">BTW, very glad I did the diff swap, even though it was not the cau=
se of the clunk, car is much quieter, especially&nbsp; with the top up.<o:p>=
</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Greg Lemon<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal">TR250<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 9:10 AM Alex &a=
mp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">aljlthomson=
@charter.net</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border:=
none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-=
top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Don=E2=80=99t rule out worn driveshaft=
 U-joints or worn/loose mounting bushings on the differential itself.</span>=
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-m=
argin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-s=
erif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=
=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style=3D"font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Alex Thomson</span><o:p=
></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margi=
n-bottom-alt:auto"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif=
;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"=
mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif"> 6pack [=
mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">6pa=
[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href=3D"mailto:otral@j=
uno.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, Janu=
ary 27, 2022 9:43 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" t=
arget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [6pack] Rear en=
d clunk</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-=
alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Twent=
y years of rear end clunk when I put it in reverse with cold engine and I'm t=
ired of it. But as soon as the engine warms up it disappears and i dismiss i=
t. Do I bite the bullet and get it checked out? I'm sure my mechanic will sa=
y get it fixed. And how much do you think a repaired rear end will cost me?&=
nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-to=
p-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p cl=
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From: Greg Lemon <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 12:01:52 -0600

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It is not too hard, but a little involved.  Have to have the driveshaft
shortened, the differential flange on the Nissan diff drilled and cut down
to match the flange on the driveshaft, then I got the mounting and axle
shaft adapter kit from Goodparts
https://www.goodparts.com/product-category/drive-train/differential-upgrade=
-kit-and-driveshafts/

I got the differential from the pick and pull for like $70 dollars from a
Q45, cheapest part of the conversion.

Greg Lemon

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 11:27 AM Jeff Nathanson <[email-masked]> wrote:

> *From:* Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of *=
Greg
> Lemon
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2022 10:28 AM
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<div dir=3D"auto">It is not too hard, but a little involved.=C2=A0 Have to =
have the driveshaft shortened, the differential flange on the Nissan diff d=
rilled and cut down to match the flange on the driveshaft, then I got the m=
ounting and axle shaft adapter kit from Goodparts=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://w=
ww.goodparts.com/product-category/drive-train/differential-upgrade-kit-and-=
driveshafts/">https://www.goodparts.com/product-category/drive-train/differ=
ential-upgrade-kit-and-driveshafts/</a><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">I got the differential from the pick and pull for like $70 dollar=
s from a Q45, cheapest part of the conversion.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"auto">Greg Lemon</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 11:27 AM Jeff =
Nathanson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pad=
ding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Greg,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;=
,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-=
serif;color:#1f497d">Was this an easy job to retrofit? Or did it require an=
y modifications?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f49=
7d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Th=
anks,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Jeff N.=
<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11=
.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=E2=80=9972 =
TR6<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> Triump=
hs [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"norefe=
rrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>] <b>=
On Behalf Of </b>Greg Lemon<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 27, 2022 10:2=
8 AM<br><b>To:</b> Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:aljlthoms=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">aljlthomson=
@charter.net</a>&gt;; Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk<u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">I chased after a &quot;rear end&quot; clunk for years.=C2=A0 Decide=
d it was in the differential, and decided to replace it with a Nissan R200 =
limited slip after replacing u-joints and checking mounts many times.=C2=A0=
 When I was installing the differential and new, shortened drive shaft I di=
scovered one of the transmission mount bolts had gone missing.<u></u><u></u=
></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal">If you are not finding it, may be worth expanding your sear=
ch, however, the only when cold thing is a bit of a head scratcher.<u></u><=
u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">BTW, very glad I did the diff swap, even though =
it was not the cause of the clunk, car is much quieter, especially=C2=A0 wi=
th the top up.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Greg Lemon<u></u><u></u>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">TR250<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l">On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 9:10 AM Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blan=
k">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquot=
e style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Do=
n=E2=80=99t rule out worn driveshaft U-joints or worn/loose mounting bushin=
gs on the differential itself.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"=
>=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Alex Thomson</span><u>=
</u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&=
quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif"> 6pack [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:6pack-bo=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">6pack=
[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href=3D"mailto:otral@ju=
no.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><=
br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:43 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blan=
k">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [6pack] Rear end clunk</span=
><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">Twenty years of rear end clunk when I put it in reverse =
with cold engine and I&#39;m tired of it. But as soon as the engine warms u=
p it disappears and i dismiss it. Do I bite the bullet and get it checked o=
ut? I&#39;m sure my mechanic will say get it fixed. And how much do you thi=
nk a repaired rear end will cost me?=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
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Meant to add, everything was bolt on parts, pretty easy.  A transmission
jack is a good idea, I used to horse the things up from under the car by
myself, but those days are gone.  I fabricated a wooden cradle that I
attached to my regular floor jack when I put mine in.

I had some tight clearances with my dual exhaust, but it is not stock.

Greg

Greg
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<div dir=3D"auto">Meant to add, everything was bolt on parts, pretty easy.=
=C2=A0 A transmission jack is a good idea, I used to horse the things up fr=
om under the car by myself, but those days are gone.=C2=A0 I fabricated a w=
ooden cradle that I attached to my regular floor jack when I put mine in.<d=
iv dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I had some tight clearances wit=
h my dual exhaust, but it is not stock.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto">Greg</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"=
ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 11:27 AM Jeff Nathanson &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-=
left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vli=
nk=3D"purple"><div class=3D"m_-477123215316727118WordSection1"><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,=
sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Greg,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-se=
rif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;co=
lor:#1f497d">Was this an easy job to retrofit? Or did it require any modifi=
cations?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u><=
/u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Thanks,<u>=
</u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0p=
t;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Jeff N.<u></u><=
u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;fon=
t-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=E2=80=9972 TR6<u></=
u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u><=
/u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;fon=
t-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> Triumphs [mailto=
:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gr=
eg Lemon<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 27, 2022 10:28 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; Triumphs=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"no=
referrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] [6pac=
k] Rear end clunk<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I chased after a &quot;rear end&q=
uot; clunk for years.=C2=A0 Decided it was in the differential, and decided=
 to replace it with a Nissan R200 limited slip after replacing u-joints and=
 checking mounts many times.=C2=A0 When I was installing the differential a=
nd new, shortened drive shaft I discovered one of the transmission mount bo=
lts had gone missing.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">If you are not finding i=
t, may be worth expanding your search, however, the only when cold thing is=
 a bit of a head scratcher.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">BTW, very gla=
d I did the diff swap, even though it was not the cause of the clunk, car i=
s much quieter, especially=C2=A0 with the top up.<u></u><u></u></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">Greg Lemon<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">TR25=
0<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
/p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 9:10 AM Alex &amp=
; Janet Thomson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></=
u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0p=
t;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-s=
erif;color:#1f497d">Don=E2=80=99t rule out worn driveshaft U-joints or worn=
/loose mounting bushings on the differential itself.</span><u></u><u></u></=
p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,san=
s-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=
Alex Thomson</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u><=
/u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif"> 6pack [mailto:<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"norefe=
rrer">[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a><=
br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:43 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">6pack@au=
tox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [6pack] Rear end clunk</span><u></u><u>=
</u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">Twenty years of rear end clunk when I put it in reverse with cold e=
ngine and I&#39;m tired of it. But as soon as the engine warms up it disapp=
ears and i dismiss it. Do I bite the bullet and get it checked out? I&#39;m=
 sure my mechanic will say get it fixed. And how much do you think a repair=
ed rear end will cost me?=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Al in CT =
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 13:21:33 -0500

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  So I remember reading, I believe on the list, that when the ring and =
pinions as original from Triumph were manufactured that they were run =
with a compound that bedded the ring and pinion as a =E2=80=9Cset=E2=80=9D=
 and that this considerably reduced differential howl. I think that the =
thread was to the effect that the new ring and pinion sets were not =
=E2=80=9Cmatched and thus a lot louder.
	Does anyone know (remember) if this is correct?
	Best,
	Bob
	=E2=80=9972 TR6

> On Jan 27, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Greg Lemon <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> Meant to add, everything was bolt on parts, pretty easy.  A =
transmission jack is a good idea, I used to horse the things up from =
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> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 11:27 AM Jeff Nathanson <[email-masked] =
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> Twenty years of rear end clunk when I put it in reverse with cold =
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp; So I remember reading, I believe on the list, that =
when the ring and pinions as original from Triumph were manufactured =
that they were run with a compound that bedded the ring and pinion as a =
=E2=80=9Cset=E2=80=9D and that this considerably reduced differential =
howl. I think that the thread was to the effect that the new ring and =
pinion sets were not =E2=80=9Cmatched and thus a lot louder.<div =
class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span>Does anyone know (remember) if this is correct?</div><div =
class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span>Best,</div><div class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>Bob</div><div class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>=E2=80=9972=
 TR6<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jan 27, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Greg Lemon =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" =
class=3D"">Meant to add, everything was bolt on parts, pretty =
easy.&nbsp; A transmission jack is a good idea, I used to horse the =
things up from under the car by myself, but those days are gone.&nbsp; I =
fabricated a wooden cradle that I attached to my regular floor jack when =
I put mine in.<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">I had some tight clearances with my dual =
exhaust, but it is not stock.</div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Greg</div></div><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 11:27 AM Jeff Nathanson =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" =
link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"m_-477123215316727118WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color=
:#1f497d" class=3D"">Greg,<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color=
:#1f497d" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color=
:#1f497d" class=3D"">Was this an easy job to retrofit? Or did it require =
any modifications?<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color=
:#1f497d" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color=
:#1f497d" class=3D"">Thanks,<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color=
:#1f497d" class=3D"">Jeff N.<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color=
:#1f497d" class=3D"">=E2=80=9972 TR6<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color=
:#1f497d" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif" =
class=3D"">From:</span></b><span =
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif" =
class=3D""> Triumphs [mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>] <b =
class=3D"">On Behalf Of </b>Greg Lemon<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Sent:</b> Thursday, January 27, 2022 10:28 AM<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">To:</b> Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; Triumphs =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b> Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u =
class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></p><div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">I chased after a "rear end" clunk for years.&nbsp; =
Decided it was in the differential, and decided to replace it with a =
Nissan R200 limited slip after replacing u-joints and checking mounts =
many times.&nbsp; When I was installing the differential and new, =
shortened drive shaft I discovered one of the transmission mount bolts =
had gone missing.<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p><div =
class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></p></div><div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal">If you =
are not finding it, may be worth expanding your search, however, the =
only when cold thing is a bit of a head scratcher.<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></p></div><div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u =
class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></p></div><div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">BTW, very glad I did the diff swap, even though it =
was not the cause of the clunk, car is much quieter, especially&nbsp; =
with the top up.<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p></div><div =
class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></p></div><div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Greg =
Lemon<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p></div><div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">TR250<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u =
class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></p><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 9:10 AM Alex =
&amp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d" =
class=3D"">Don=E2=80=99t rule out worn driveshaft U-joints or worn/loose =
mounting bushings on the differential itself.</span><u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span><u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d" =
class=3D"">Alex Thomson</span><u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span><u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><b class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif" =
class=3D"">From:</span></b><span =
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif" =
class=3D""> 6pack [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>] <b class=3D"">On Behalf Of =
</b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer"=
 class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:</b> =
Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:43 AM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b> =
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Subject:</b> [6pack] Rear end clunk</span><u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></p><div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Twenty years =
of rear end clunk when I put it in reverse with cold engine and I'm =
tired of it. But as soon as the engine warms up it disappears and i =
dismiss it. Do I bite the bullet and get it checked out? I'm sure my =
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I also had the clunk in my 4a and it was worn spline jibs for the wire wheel=
s.  Old wire wheels and spline hubs can create the same clunk.  Sounds like y=
ours is the diff. =20
Jim Henningsen
Ocala Fl.=20

> On Jan 27, 2022, at 11:27 AM, Cliff Hansen <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> Low-speed =E2=80=9Cclunk=E2=80=9D in my TR4A IRS turned out to be worn spl=
ines in the axle shafts. I repacked the splines with grease to get by for a w=
hile, I=E2=80=99ll fix it properly when I decide it bothers me enough. Why T=
riumph didn=E2=80=99t put a grease fitting on the sliding joint is a mystery=
 to me.
> =20
> Cliff
> =20
> =20
> Sent from Mail for Windows
> =20
> From: Greg Lemon
> To: Alex & Janet Thomson; Triumphs
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I a=
lso had the clunk in my 4a and it was worn spline jibs for the wire wheels. &=
nbsp;Old wire wheels and spline hubs can create the same clunk. &nbsp;Sounds=
 like yours is the diff. &nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jim Henningsen</div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">Ocala Fl.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D=
"cite">On Jan 27, 2022, at 11:27 AM, Cliff Hansen &lt;[email-masked]=
om&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D=
"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3DWindows-12=
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<div class=3D"WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Low-speed =E2=80=9Cclunk=E2=80=9D in my TR4A IRS turn=
ed out to be worn splines in the axle shafts. I repacked the splines with gr=
ease to get by for a while, I=E2=80=99ll fix it properly when I decide it bo=
thers me enough. Why Triumph didn=E2=80=99t put a grease fitting
 on the sliding joint is a mystery to me.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cliff</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/=
?LinkId=3D550986">
Mail</a> for Windows</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div style=3D"mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1=
E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"border:none;padding:0in"><b>From: </b><a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Greg Lemon</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, January 27, 2022 8:29 AM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Alex &amp; Janet Thoms=
on</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">
Triumphs</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk</p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I chased after a "rear end" clunk for years.&nbsp; De=
cided it was in the differential, and decided to replace it with a Nissan R2=
00 limited slip after replacing u-joints and checking mounts many times.&nbs=
p; When I was installing the differential
 and new, shortened drive shaft I discovered one of the transmission mount b=
olts had gone missing.<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">If you are not finding it, may be worth expanding you=
r search, however, the only when cold thing is a bit of a head scratcher.<o:=
p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">BTW, very glad I did the diff swap, even though it wa=
s not the cause of the clunk, car is much quieter, especially&nbsp; with the=
 top up.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Greg Lemon<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">TR250<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 9:10 AM Alex &amp; Janet Thomso=
n &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in=
 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-al=
t:auto"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Don=E2=80=99t rule out worn driveshaft=
 U-joints or worn/loose mounting bushings on the differential itself.</span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-al=
t:auto"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-al=
t:auto"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Alex Thomson</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-al=
t:auto"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span></p>
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t:auto"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sa=
ns-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif"> 6pack [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:6pack-bounces@auto=
x.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">otra=
[email-masked]</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:43 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">6pack@a=
utox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [6pack] Rear end clunk</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-al=
t:auto">&nbsp;</p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-al=
t:auto">Twenty years of rear end clunk when I put it in reverse with cold en=
gine and I'm tired of it. But as soon as the engine warms up it disappears a=
nd i dismiss it. Do I bite the bullet
 and get it checked out? I'm sure my mechanic will say get it fixed. And how=
 much do you think a repaired rear end will cost me?&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div>
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t:auto">&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-al=
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 Indeed.=C2=A0 My thinking as to why it goes away when warm is this:
If the splines are dry or if the grease gets ladened with dirt and such the=
y will stick a bit.=C2=A0 As the car warms up it is because it is being dri=
ven which will loosen up the stickiness and it will start to behave better =
until it sits a while and cools off.
Dave=20

=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Cliff Hansen <[email-masked]>
To: Greg Lemon <[email-masked]>; Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson@charte=
r.net>; Triumphs <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thu, Jan 27, 2022 10:27 am
Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk

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<div> <font size=3D"3">Indeed.&nbsp; My thinking as to why it goes away whe=
n warm is this:</font></div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div><font size=3D"3">If the splines are dry or if the grease gets ladened =
with dirt and such they will stick a bit.&nbsp; As the car warms up it is b=
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<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
<br>
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<div> <br>
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To: Greg Lemon &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;aljlt=
[email-masked]&gt;; Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Thu, Jan 27, 2022 10:27 am<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk<br>
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my TR4A IRS turned out to be worn splines in the axle shafts. I repacked th=
e splines with grease to get by for a while, I=E2=80=99ll fix it properly w=
hen I decide it bothers me enough. Why Triumph didn=E2=80=99t put a grease =
fitting
 on the sliding joint is a mystery to me.</div>

<div class=3D"yiv3294118825MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv3294118825MsoNormal">Cliff</div>

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From: DAVE HOGYE <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 15:04:32 -0800 (PST)

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Loose shock mounting bolts can create a mysterious rear end clunk.  Check y=
our nuts and bolts.
Dave H.=20

>     On 01/27/2022 11:18 AM James Henningsen <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
>=20
>=20
>     I also had the clunk in my 4a and it was worn spline jibs for the wir=
e wheels.  Old wire wheels and spline hubs can create the same clunk.  Soun=
ds like yours is the diff. =20
>     Jim Henningsen
>     Ocala Fl.=20
>=20
>=20
>         > > On Jan 27, 2022, at 11:27 AM, Cliff Hansen <cliff_hansen@outl=
ook.com> wrote:
> >=20
> >=20
> >     >=20
>         > >=20
> >         Low-speed =E2=80=9Cclunk=E2=80=9D in my TR4A IRS turned out to =
be worn splines in the axle shafts. I repacked the splines with grease to g=
et by for a while, I=E2=80=99ll fix it properly when I decide it bothers me=
 enough. Why Triumph didn=E2=80=99t put a grease fitting on the sliding joi=
nt is a mystery to me.
> >=20
> >=20
> >         Cliff
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >         Sent from Mail https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986=
 for Windows
> >=20
> >=20
> >         From: Greg Lemon mailto:[email-masked]
> >         To: Alex & Janet Thomson mailto:[email-masked] ; Trium=
phs mailto:[email-masked]
> >         I chased after a "rear end" clunk for years.  Decided it was in=
 the differential, and decided to replace it with a Nissan R200 limited sli=
p after replacing u-joints and checking mounts many times.  When I was inst=
alling the differential and new, shortened drive shaft I discovered one of =
the transmission mount bolts had gone missing.
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> >         BTW, very glad I did the diff swap, even though it was not the =
cause of the clunk, car is much quieter, especially  with the top up.
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> >         On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 9:10 AM Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson=
@charter.net mailto:[email-masked] > wrote:
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> > >             Don=E2=80=99t rule out worn driveshaft U-joints or worn/l=
oose mounting bushings on the differential itself.
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ith cold engine and I'm tired of it. But as soon as the engine warms up it =
disappears and i dismiss it. Do I bite the bullet and get it checked out? I=
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   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Loose shock mou=
nting bolts can create a mysterious rear end clunk.&nbsp; Check your nuts a=
nd bolts.</span>
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    On 01/27/2022 11:18 AM James Henningsen &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote=
:
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    <br>
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    I also had the clunk in my 4a and it was worn spline jibs for the wire =
wheels. &nbsp;Old wire wheels and spline hubs can create the same clunk. &n=
bsp;Sounds like yours is the diff. &nbsp;
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    Jim Henningsen
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    Ocala Fl.&nbsp;
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     On Jan 27, 2022, at 11:27 AM, Cliff Hansen &lt;[email-masked]=
m&gt; wrote:
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      <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Low-speed =E2=80=9Cclunk=E2=80=9D in my TR4A I=
RS turned out to be worn splines in the axle shafts. I repacked the splines=
 with grease to get by for a while, I=E2=80=99ll fix it properly when I dec=
ide it bothers me enough. Why Triumph didn=E2=80=99t put a grease fitting o=
n the sliding joint is a mystery to me.</p>
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      <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cliff</p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/=
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>From: </strong><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Greg Lemon</a><br><stro=
ng>Sent: </strong>Thursday, January 27, 2022 8:29 AM<br><strong>To: </stron=
g><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Alex &amp; Janet Thomson</a>; =
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"> Triumphs</a><br><strong>Subject=
: </strong>Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk</p>
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      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
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       <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I chased after a "rear end" clunk for years.&=
nbsp; Decided it was in the differential, and decided to replace it with a =
Nissan R200 limited slip after replacing u-joints and checking mounts many =
times.&nbsp; When I was installing the differential and new, shortened driv=
e shaft I discovered one of the transmission mount bolts had gone missing.<=
/p>
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        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
       </div>
       <div>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">If you are not finding it, may be worth expa=
nding your search, however, the only when cold thing is a bit of a head scr=
atcher.</p>
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        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
       </div>
       <div>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">BTW, very glad I did the diff swap, even tho=
ugh it was not the cause of the clunk, car is much quieter, especially&nbsp=
; with the top up.</p>
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        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
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        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Greg Lemon</p>
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        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">TR250</p>
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        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 9:10 AM Alex &amp; Jan=
et Thomson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">aljlthomson@chart=
er.net</a>&gt; wrote:</p>
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          <p style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto=
;" class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: #1f497d;">Don=E2=80=99t rule o=
ut worn driveshaft U-joints or worn/loose mounting bushings on the differen=
tial itself.</span></p>
          <p style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto=
;" class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: #1f497d;">&nbsp;</span></p>
          <p style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto=
;" class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: #1f497d;">Alex Thomson</span><=
/p>
          <p style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto=
;" class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: #1f497d;">&nbsp;</span></p>
          <p style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto=
;" class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-famil=
y: 'Tahoma',sans-serif;">From:</span></strong><span style=3D"font-size: 10.=
0pt; font-family: 'Tahoma',sans-serif;"> 6pack [mailto:<a target=3D"_blank"=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noopener">6pack-bounce=
[email-masked]</a>] <strong>On Behalf Of </strong><a target=3D"_blank" hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noopener">[email-masked]</a><br><strong=
>Sent:</strong> Thursday, January 27, 2022 9:43 AM<br><strong>To:</strong> =
<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noopener">=
[email-masked]</a><br><strong>Subject:</strong> [6pack] Rear end clun=
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           <p style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: aut=
o;" class=3D"MsoNormal">Twenty years of rear end clunk when I put it in rev=
erse with cold engine and I'm tired of it. But as soon as the engine warms =
up it disappears and i dismiss it. Do I bite the bullet and get it checked =
out? I'm sure my mechanic will say get it fixed. And how much do you think =
a repaired rear end will cost me?&nbsp;</p>
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Even when the cars were new, it was an accepted fact at the factory that d=
ifferential units, were inherently noisy. They howled or moaned or rumbled=
 and this issue affected the whole model range. It was unusual to find a c=
ar with a quiet one! Many different =E2=80=98cures=E2=80=99 were tried and=
 the only moderately successful one was to change the machining angle of t=
he gear teeth. The axles were all bought-in components from (I think a com=
pany called Salisbury) who maintained that modifying the manufacturing pro=
cess (angle of gear teeth cutting) would result in a higher cost price whi=
ch the Purchase Department refused to consider, so we were stuck with nois=
y axles. End of story.

Jonmac

From: Greg Lemon <[email-masked]>
Sent: 27 January 2022 15:28
To: Alex & Janet Thomson <[email-masked]>; Triumphs <triumphs@aut=
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Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk

I chased after a "rear end" clunk for years.  Decided it was in the differ=
ential, and decided to replace it with a Nissan R200 limited slip after re=
placing u-joints and checking mounts many times.  When I was installing th=
e differential and new, shortened drive shaft I discovered one of the tran=
smission mount bolts had gone missing.

Greg Lemon

TR250

Alex Thomson

Twenty years of rear end clunk when I put it in reverse with cold engine a=
nd I'm tired of it. But as soon as the engine warms up it disappears and i=
 dismiss it. Do I bite the bullet and get it checked out? I'm sure my mech=
anic will say get it fixed. And how much do you think a repaired rear end =
will cost me?

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ss=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Even when the car=
s were new, it was an accepted fact at the factory that differential units,=
 were inherently noisy. They howled or moaned or rumbled and this issue aff=
ected the whole model range. It was unusual to find a car with a quiet one!=
 Many different =E2=80=98cures=E2=80=99 were tried and the only moderately =
successful one was to change the machining angle of the gear teeth. The axl=
es were all bought-in components from (I think a company called Salisbury) =
who maintained that modifying the manufacturing process (angle of gear teet=
h cutting) would result in a higher cost price which the Purchase Departmen=
t refused to consider, so we were stuck with noisy axles. End of story. <o:=
p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language=
:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso=
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span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0=
cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=
=3DEN-US> Greg Lemon &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> 27 January 2=
022 15:28<br><b>To:</b> Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;[email-masked]=
t&gt;; Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR]=
 [6pack] Rear end clunk<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I chased after a &quot;rear end=
&quot; clunk for years.&nbsp; Decided it was in the differential, and decid=
ed to replace it with a Nissan R200 limited slip after replacing u-joints a=
nd checking mounts many times.&nbsp; When I was installing the differential=
 and new, shortened drive shaft I discovered one of the transmission mount =
bolts had gone missing.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>If you are not finding it, may be=
 worth expanding your search, however, the only when cold thing is a bit of=
 a head scratcher.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp=
;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>BTW, very glad I did the diff sw=
ap, even though it was not the cause of the clunk, car is much quieter, esp=
ecially&nbsp; with the top up.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Greg Lemon<o:p></o:p=
></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>TR250<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Thu, =
Jan 27, 2022, 9:10 AM Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:aljlth=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></d=
iv><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding=
:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><=
span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Don=E2=80=99t rule out worn drive=
shaft U-joints or worn/loose mounting bushings on the differential itself.<=
/span><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=
=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-=
alt:auto'><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Alex Thomson</span><sp=
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