Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 issue

From: Bob <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2021 10:16:56 -0500

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Dave,

I had my machine shop replace the valve guides on all my Triumphs with 
bronze guides sourced at TRF. In addition they added ss valve seats for 
the exhaust so I could use unleaded without the additive. Zero problems 
with the 4 which is over 20 years since rebuild. 3 10 years and same 
with the 6, No smoke and almost zero oil usage. I doubt a leak down test 
would reveal bad guides. What do the plugs look like? If there is oil 
foul they would appear black and greasy. But you could have bad rings, 
the oil scraper may be bad.

Bob

On 11/11/21 9:56 AM, dave wrote:
>
> I have a friend who has a 74 TR6.  Recent rebuild of the engine both 
> top and bottom.  We are a little suspicious of the machine shop that 
> did the head.  The bottom end was done a year later by a different 
> machinist.
>
> All pollution stuff is gone.
>
> Compression across all 6 cylinders is within a couple PSI
>
> Leakdown test was a small % on all cylinders
>
> Engine uses a lot of oil and there is a blue puff when he accelerates 
> or engine brakes
>
> We think its likely the valve guides are leaking.
>
> What do you think?
>
>
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    <p>Dave,</p>
    <p>I had my machine shop replace the valve guides on all my Triumphs
      with bronze guides sourced at TRF. In addition they added ss valve
      seats for the exhaust so I could use unleaded without the
      additive. Zero problems with the 4 which is over 20 years since
      rebuild. 3 10 years and same with the 6, No smoke and almost zero
      oil usage. I doubt a leak down test would reveal bad guides. What
      do the plugs look like? If there is oil foul they would appear
      black and greasy. But you could have bad rings, the oil scraper
      may be bad. <br>
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    <p>Bob<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">I have a friend who has a 74 TR6.  Recent
          rebuild of the engine both top and bottom.  We are a little
          suspicious of the machine shop that did the head.  The bottom
          end was done a year later by a different machinist.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">All pollution stuff is gone.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Compression across all 6 cylinders is
          within a couple PSI<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Leakdown test was a small % on all
          cylinders<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Engine uses a lot of oil and there is a
          blue puff when he accelerates or engine brakes<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">We think its likely the valve guides are
          leaking.<o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">What do you think?<o:p></o:p></p>
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From: Frank Fisher <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2021 16:49:13 +0000 (UTC)

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 We think its likely the valve guides are leaking.
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frank
    On Thursday, November 11, 2021, 06:56:54 AM PST, dave <[email-masked]=
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I have a friend who has a 74 TR6.=C2=A0 Recent rebuild of the engine both t=
op and bottom.=C2=A0 We are a little suspicious of the machine shop that di=
d the head.=C2=A0 The bottom end was done a year later by a different machi=
nist.

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Engine uses a lot of oil and there is a blue puff when he accelerates or en=
gine brakes

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What do you think?

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                    On Thursday, November 11, 2021, 06:56:54 AM PST, dave &=
lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydpb5779cfdyiv7737601090"><div><div class=
=3D"ydpb5779cfdyiv7737601090WordSection1"><p class=3D"ydpb5779cfdyiv7737601=
090MsoNormal">I have a friend who has a 74 TR6.&nbsp; Recent rebuild of the=
 engine both top and bottom.&nbsp; We are a little suspicious of the machin=
e shop that did the head.&nbsp; The bottom end was done a year later by a d=
ifferent machinist.</p><p class=3D"ydpb5779cfdyiv7737601090MsoNormal"> &nbs=
p;</p><p class=3D"ydpb5779cfdyiv7737601090MsoNormal">All pollution stuff is=
 gone.</p><p class=3D"ydpb5779cfdyiv7737601090MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p clas=
s=3D"ydpb5779cfdyiv7737601090MsoNormal">Compression across all 6 cylinders =
is within a couple PSI</p><p class=3D"ydpb5779cfdyiv7737601090MsoNormal"> &=
nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydpb5779cfdyiv7737601090MsoNormal">Leakdown test was a=
 small % on all cylinders</p><p class=3D"ydpb5779cfdyiv7737601090MsoNormal"=
> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydpb5779cfdyiv7737601090MsoNormal">Engine uses a lo=
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ng.</p><p class=3D"ydpb5779cfdyiv7737601090MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=
=3D"ydpb5779cfdyiv7737601090MsoNormal">What do you think?</p></div></div></=
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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2021 01:49:57 +0000 (UTC)

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 What is meant by "Engine uses a lot of oil?"=C2=A0 These things are notori=
ous for using a lot of oil.=C2=A0 The factory once said that a quart every =
600 miles is "normal."=C2=A0 But that was probably an effort to get out of =
some warranty work.=C2=A0=20

I seem to recall that a puff of blue smoke on acceleration was blow-by, (i.=
e. rings)

I rebuilt a TR6 engine that ran great but lost a quart every 300 miles.=C2=
=A0 A co-worker who used to work for TRW in the piston ring department said=
 that I may have installed the rings upside down.=C2=A0 He said they were n=
ot symmetrical and applied more pressure on the bottom edge to better scrap=
e any oil on the cylinder walls to reduce consumption.=C2=A0=20

I bought a used engine to drive while I rebuilt this one.=C2=A0 This used e=
ngine is still in the car 30 years later (I never rebuilt that engine) and =
looses a quart every 1300 miles or so.=C2=A0 Some times it is best to leave=
 well enough alone.
=20
Dave=20

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 done a year later by a different machinist. =C2=A0All pollution stuff is g=
one. =C2=A0Compression across all 6 cylinders is within a couple PSI =C2=A0=
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 and there is a blue puff when he accelerates or engine brakes =C2=A0We thi=
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<div> <font size="3">What is meant by "Engine uses a lot of oil?"&nbsp; These things are notorious for using a lot of oil.&nbsp; The factory once said that a quart every 600 miles is "normal."&nbsp; But that was probably an effort to get out of some warranty work.&nbsp; <br>
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<div><font size="3">I seem to recall that a puff of blue smoke on acceleration was blow-by, (i.e. rings)<br>
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<div><font size="3">I rebuilt a TR6 engine that ran great but lost a quart every 300 miles.&nbsp; A co-worker who used to work for TRW in the piston ring department said that I may have installed the rings upside down.&nbsp; He said they were not symmetrical and applied more pressure on the bottom edge to better scrape any oil on the cylinder walls to reduce consumption.&nbsp; <br>
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<div><font size="3">I bought a used engine to drive while I rebuilt this one.&nbsp; This used engine is still in the car 30 years later (I never rebuilt that engine) and looses a quart every 1300 miles or so.&nbsp; Some times it is best to leave well enough alone.<br>
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From: dave &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
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Subject: [TR] TR6 issue<br>
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<div class="yiv3123217294MsoNormal">I have a friend who has a 74 TR6.&nbsp; Recent rebuild of the engine both top and bottom.&nbsp; We are a little suspicious of the machine shop that did the head.&nbsp; The bottom end was done a year later by a different machinist.</div>

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<div class="yiv3123217294MsoNormal">All pollution stuff is gone.</div>

<div class="yiv3123217294MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div class="yiv3123217294MsoNormal">Compression across all 6 cylinders is within a couple PSI</div>

<div class="yiv3123217294MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div class="yiv3123217294MsoNormal">Leakdown test was a small % on all cylinders</div>

<div class="yiv3123217294MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div class="yiv3123217294MsoNormal">Engine uses a lot of oil and there is a blue puff when he accelerates or engine brakes</div>

<div class="yiv3123217294MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div class="yiv3123217294MsoNormal">We think its likely the valve guides are leaking.</div>

<div class="yiv3123217294MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div class="yiv3123217294MsoNormal">What do you think?</div>
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How about a quart per fillup?

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And I totally disagree that these engines need to use oil.  My engine =
was rebuilt by an excellent mechanic, and it uses practically no oil. =20

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I almost never have to add oil.  And we drive it hard. =20

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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>=20
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What is meant by "Engine uses a lot of oil?"  These things are notorious =
for using a lot of oil.  The factory once said that a quart every 600 =
miles is "normal."  But that was probably an effort to get out of some =
warranty work. =20

=20

I seem to recall that a puff of blue smoke on acceleration was blow-by, =
(i.e. rings)

=20

I rebuilt a TR6 engine that ran great but lost a quart every 300 miles.  =
A co-worker who used to work for TRW in the piston ring department said =
that I may have installed the rings upside down.  He said they were not =
symmetrical and applied more pressure on the bottom edge to better =
scrape any oil on the cylinder walls to reduce consumption. =20

=20

I bought a used engine to drive while I rebuilt this one.  This used =
engine is still in the car 30 years later (I never rebuilt that engine) =
and looses a quart every 1300 miles or so.  Some times it is best to =
leave well enough alone.

=20

Dave=20

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Subject: [TR] TR6 issue

I have a friend who has a 74 TR6.  Recent rebuild of the engine both top =
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head.  The bottom end was done a year later by a different machinist.

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Engine uses a lot of oil and there is a blue puff when he accelerates or =
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class=3DMsoNormal>And I totally disagree that these engines need to use =
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practically no oil.=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I almost =
never have to add oil.=C2=A0 And we drive it hard.=C2=A0 =
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class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> DAVID MASSEY =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 11, 2021 =
7:50 PM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]; =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR6 =
issue<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Wha=
t is meant by &quot;Engine uses a lot of oil?&quot;&nbsp; These things =
are notorious for using a lot of oil.&nbsp; The factory once said that a =
quart every 600 miles is &quot;normal.&quot;&nbsp; But that was probably =
an effort to get out of some warranty work.&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I =
seem to recall that a puff of blue smoke on acceleration was blow-by, =
(i.e. rings)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I =
rebuilt a TR6 engine that ran great but lost a quart every 300 =
miles.&nbsp; A co-worker who used to work for TRW in the piston ring =
department said that I may have installed the rings upside down.&nbsp; =
He said they were not symmetrical and applied more pressure on the =
bottom edge to better scrape any oil on the cylinder walls to reduce =
consumption.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I =
bought a used engine to drive while I rebuilt this one.&nbsp; This used =
engine is still in the car 30 years later (I never rebuilt that engine) =
and looses a quart every 1300 miles or so.&nbsp; Some times it is best =
to leave well enough alone.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dav=
e </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>---=
--Original Message-----<br>From: dave &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>Se=
nt: Thu, Nov 11, 2021 8:56 am<br>Subject: [TR] TR6 =
issue<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=3Dyiv3123217294><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I =
have a friend who has a 74 TR6.&nbsp; Recent rebuild of the engine both =
top and bottom.&nbsp; We are a little suspicious of the machine shop =
that did the head.&nbsp; The bottom end was done a year later by a =
different machinist.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>All=
 pollution stuff is gone.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Com=
pression across all 6 cylinders is within a couple =
PSI<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Lea=
kdown test was a small % on all =
cylinders<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Eng=
ine uses a lot of oil and there is a blue puff when he accelerates or =
engine brakes<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>We =
think its likely the valve guides are =
leaking.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Wha=
t do you think?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p =
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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2021 14:47:31 +0000 (UTC)

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 A quart per fill-up ain't normal.=C2=A0 That's what mine was doing and I t=
ook it back apart because of that.=C2=A0 You may need to have words with th=
e engine rebuilder.
And, like I said, it was the factory trying to avoid some warranty work.=C2=
=A0 I agree, adding more than a quart in between oil change is not what it =
could be.=C2=A0=20
=20
Dave=20

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-----Original Message-----
From: dave <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Sent: Fri, Nov 12, 2021 8:29 am
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 issue

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 about a quart per fillup? =C2=A0And I totally disagree that these engines =
need to use oil.=C2=A0 My engine was rebuilt by an excellent mechanic, and =
it uses practically no oil.=C2=A0  =C2=A0I almost never have to add oil.=C2=
=A0 And we drive it hard.=C2=A0  =C2=A0 =C2=A0From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1mass=
[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 7:50 PM
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 issue =C2=A0What is meant by "Engine uses a lot of oi=
l?"=C2=A0 These things are notorious for using a lot of oil.=C2=A0 The fact=
ory once said that a quart every 600 miles is "normal."=C2=A0 But that was =
probably an effort to get out of some warranty work.=C2=A0  =C2=A0I seem to=
 recall that a puff of blue smoke on acceleration was blow-by, (i.e. rings)=
 =C2=A0I rebuilt a TR6 engine that ran great but lost a quart every 300 mil=
es.=C2=A0 A co-worker who used to work for TRW in the piston ring departmen=
t said that I may have installed the rings upside down.=C2=A0 He said they =
were not symmetrical and applied more pressure on the bottom edge to better=
 scrape any oil on the cylinder walls to reduce consumption.=C2=A0  =C2=A0I=
 bought a used engine to drive while I rebuilt this one.=C2=A0 This used en=
gine is still in the car 30 years later (I never rebuilt that engine) and l=
ooses a quart every 1300 miles or so.=C2=A0 Some times it is best to leave =
well enough alone. =C2=A0Dave  =C2=A0 =C2=A0-----Original Message-----
From: dave <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Sent: Thu, Nov 11, 2021 8:56 am
Subject: [TR] TR6 issueI have a friend who has a 74 TR6.=C2=A0 Recent rebui=
ld of the engine both top and bottom.=C2=A0 We are a little suspicious of t=
he machine shop that did the head.=C2=A0 The bottom end was done a year lat=
er by a different machinist.=C2=A0All pollution stuff is gone.=C2=A0Compres=
sion across all 6 cylinders is within a couple PSI=C2=A0Leakdown test was a=
 small % on all cylinders=C2=A0Engine uses a lot of oil and there is a blue=
 puff when he accelerates or engine brakes=C2=A0We think its likely the val=
ve guides are leaking.=C2=A0What do you think?** [email-masked] **

[email-masked]** [email-masked] **

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<div style=3D"color:black;font: 12pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<div> <font size=3D"3">A quart per fill-up ain't normal.&nbsp; That's what =
mine was doing and I took it back apart because of that.&nbsp; You may need=
 to have words with the engine rebuilder.</font></div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div><font size=3D"3">And, like I said, it was the factory trying to avoid =
some warranty work.&nbsp; I agree, adding more than a quart in between oil =
change is not what it could be.&nbsp; </font><br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
<br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black"><font=
 size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: dave &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: [email-masked]<br>
Sent: Fri, Nov 12, 2021 8:29 am<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 issue<br>
<br>

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<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal">How about a quart per fillup?</div>

<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal">And I totally disagree that these eng=
ines need to use oil.&nbsp; My engine was rebuilt by an excellent mechanic,=
 and it uses practically no oil.&nbsp; </div>

<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal">I almost never have to add oil.&nbsp;=
 And we drive it hard.&nbsp; </div>

<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div id=3D"yiv7169711364yqt43752" class=3D"yiv7169711364yqt7006353609">
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in;">
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> DAVID MASSEY &lt;dave1ma=
[email-masked]&gt; <br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 11, 2021=
 7:50 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> [email-masked]; [email-masked]=
.net<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR6 issue</div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">What is meant by "Engine uses a lot of oil?=
"&nbsp; These things are notorious for using a lot of oil.&nbsp; The factor=
y once said that a quart every 600 miles is "normal."&nbsp; But that was pr=
obably an effort to get out of some warranty work.&nbsp; </span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">I seem to recall that a puff of blue smoke =
on acceleration was blow-by, (i.e. rings)</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">I rebuilt a TR6 engine that ran great but l=
ost a quart every 300 miles.&nbsp; A co-worker who used to work for TRW in =
the piston ring department said that I may have installed the rings upside =
down.&nbsp; He said they were not symmetrical and applied more pressure on =
the bottom edge to better scrape any oil on the cylinder walls to reduce co=
nsumption.&nbsp; </span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">I bought a used engine to drive while I reb=
uilt this one.&nbsp; This used engine is still in the car 30 years later (I=
 never rebuilt that engine) and looses a quart every 1300 miles or so.&nbsp=
; Some times it is best to leave well enough alone.</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">Dave </span=
><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"></spa=
n></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">-----Origin=
al Message-----<br clear=3D"none">From: dave &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopene=
r noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"=
_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=
=3D"none">To: <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailt=
o=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:trium=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none">Sent: Thu=
, Nov 11, 2021 8:56 am<br clear=3D"none">Subject: [TR] TR6 issue</span></di=
v>

<div id=3D"yiv7169711364">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">I have a friend who has a 74 TR6.&nbsp; Rec=
ent rebuild of the engine both top and bottom.&nbsp; We are a little suspic=
ious of the machine shop that did the head.&nbsp; The bottom end was done a=
 year later by a different machinist.</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">All pollution stuff is gone.</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">Compression across all 6 cylinders is withi=
n a couple PSI</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">Leakdown test was a small % on all cylinder=
s</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">Engine uses a lot of oil and there is a blu=
e puff when he accelerates or engine brakes</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">We think its likely the valve guides are le=
aking.</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7169711364MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">What do you think?</span></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>

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I have a 66 TR4 motor in my TR3, never add oil between changes, no leaks.=20=

Bill B
TS30800L

=E2=80=9CLast night I saw upon the stair,
A little man who wasn't there,
He wasn't there again today
Oh, how I wish he'd go away=E2=80=9D.... Mearns

On Nov 12, 2021, at 8:29 AM, dave <[email-masked]> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF
How about a quart per fillup?
=20
And I totally disagree that these engines need to use oil.  My engine was re=
built by an excellent mechanic, and it uses practically no oil.=20
=20
I almost never have to add oil.  And we drive it hard.=20
=20
=20
From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 7:50 PM
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 issue
=20
What is meant by "Engine uses a lot of oil?"  These things are notorious for=
 using a lot of oil.  The factory once said that a quart every 600 miles is "=
normal."  But that was probably an effort to get out of some warranty work.=20=

=20
I seem to recall that a puff of blue smoke on acceleration was blow-by, (i.e=
. rings)
=20
I rebuilt a TR6 engine that ran great but lost a quart every 300 miles.  A c=
o-worker who used to work for TRW in the piston ring department said that I m=
ay have installed the rings upside down.  He said they were not symmetrical a=
nd applied more pressure on the bottom edge to better scrape any oil on the c=
ylinder walls to reduce consumption.=20
=20
I bought a used engine to drive while I rebuilt this one.  This used engine i=
s still in the car 30 years later (I never rebuilt that engine) and looses a=
 quart every 1300 miles or so.  Some times it is best to leave well enough a=
lone.
=20
Dave

=20
=20
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From: dave <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Sent: Thu, Nov 11, 2021 8:56 am
Subject: [TR] TR6 issue

I have a friend who has a 74 TR6.  Recent rebuild of the engine both top and=
 bottom.  We are a little suspicious of the machine shop that did the head. =
 The bottom end was done a year later by a different machinist.
=20
All pollution stuff is gone.
=20
Compression across all 6 cylinders is within a couple PSI
=20
Leakdown test was a small % on all cylinders
=20
Engine uses a lot of oil and there is a blue puff when he accelerates or eng=
ine brakes
=20
We think its likely the valve guides are leaking.
=20
What do you think?
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I have a 66 TR4 motor in my TR3, never add o=
il between changes, no leaks.&nbsp;<div>Bill B</div><div>TS30800L<br><br><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">=E2=80=
=9CLast night I saw upon the stair,<br>A little man who wasn't there,<br>He w=
asn't there again today<br>Oh, how I wish he'd go away=E2=80=9D.... Mearns</=
span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Nov 12, 2021, at 8:29 AM, dave &lt;dave@r=
anteer.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equi=
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oNormal">How about a quart per fillup?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">And I totally disagree that thes=
e engines need to use oil.&nbsp; My engine was rebuilt by an excellent mecha=
nic, and it uses practically no oil.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I almost never have to add o=
il.&nbsp; And we drive it hard.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div style=3D=
"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> DAVID MASSEY &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><=
b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 11, 2021 7:50 PM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]=
om; [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR6 issue<o:p></o:p>=
</p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,san=
s-serif;color:black">What is meant by "Engine uses a lot of oil?"&nbsp; Thes=
e things are notorious for using a lot of oil.&nbsp; The factory once said t=
hat a quart every 600 miles is "normal."&nbsp; But that was probably an effo=
rt to get out of some warranty work.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&q=
uot;,sans-serif;color:black">I seem to recall that a puff of blue smoke on a=
cceleration was blow-by, (i.e. rings)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quo=
t;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sa=
ns-serif;color:black">I rebuilt a TR6 engine that ran great but lost a quart=
 every 300 miles.&nbsp; A co-worker who used to work for TRW in the piston r=
ing department said that I may have installed the rings upside down.&nbsp; H=
e said they were not symmetrical and applied more pressure on the bottom edg=
e to better scrape any oil on the cylinder walls to reduce consumption.&nbsp=
; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">I bought a u=
sed engine to drive while I rebuilt this one.&nbsp; This used engine is stil=
l in the car 30 years later (I never rebuilt that engine) and looses a quart=
 every 1300 miles or so.&nbsp; Some times it is best to leave well enough al=
one.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p>&=
nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bott=
om:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,san=
s-serif;color:black">Dave </span><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family=
:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div>=
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al&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&q=
uot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0p=
t;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">-----Original Messag=
e-----<br>From: dave &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
m</a>&gt;<br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
eam.net</a><br>Sent: Thu, Nov 11, 2021 8:56 am<br>Subject: [TR] TR6 issue<o:=
p></o:p></span></p><div id=3D"yiv3123217294"><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-se=
rif;color:black">I have a friend who has a 74 TR6.&nbsp; Recent rebuild of t=
he engine both top and bottom.&nbsp; We are a little suspicious of the machi=
ne shop that did the head.&nbsp; The bottom end was done a year later by a d=
ifferent machinist.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;colo=
r:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:bl=
ack">All pollution stuff is gone.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sa=
ns-serif;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-s=
erif;color:black">Compression across all 6 cylinders is within a couple PSI<=
o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Leakdown test w=
as a small % on all cylinders<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-=
serif;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-seri=
f;color:black">Engine uses a lot of oil and there is a blue puff when he acc=
elerates or engine brakes<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-seri=
f;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;co=
lor:black">We think its likely the valve guides are leaking.<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
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