Subject: Re: [TR] Pilot bush -- TR3

From: bill beecher <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2021 11:11:01 -0600

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Yup, this works, or,  pump oil in to soak the bread.=20
Bill B
TS30800L

=E2=80=9CLast night I saw upon the stair,
A little man who wasn't there,
He wasn't there again today
Oh, how I wish he'd go away=E2=80=9D.... Mearns

On Nov 26, 2021, at 11:05 AM, Steve Kirby <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:

=EF=BB=BF
OK, call me crazy, but watch this YouTube video on how to remove a pilot bus=
hing or bearing with bread.
=20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D00OlG5E8vLk
=20
I have found pullers to be of little use as it is hard to get a grip on the b=
ack side of the bushing=E2=80=A6..but this method actually works.
=20
Steve Kirby
President
China Auto Group
22831 Avenida Empresa
Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688 USA
Direct:  (949) 261-8208
Fax:  (949) 767-5949
Cell:  (949) 903-0957
Skype: steve.kirby29
www.chinaautogroup.com
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From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Triumph
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 8:14 AM
To: 'David Friedlander' <[email-masked]>; 'DAVE HOGYE' <dlhogye@comcast.=
net>; 'New England Triumphs' <[email-masked]>; 'TR3 Triumphs' <t=
[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] Pilot bush -- TR3
=20
When I tried to replace mine years ago on my 59 TR3A, I tried all the usual t=
ricks. I even bought a pilot bushing puller. Eventually I stuck my finger in=
to the bushing and found I could move it fore and aft about 1/8 inch as it w=
as loose in the bore but it hit the back side of the flywheel and would go n=
o further. Once I removed the flywheel it popped right out.
Afterwards, I measured the holes and the flywheel hole was definitely smalle=
r than the crankshaft hole.
Bob Maassel
Fort Wayne
=20
From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of David Fri=
edlander
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 10:59 AM
To: DAVE HOGYE <[email-masked]>; New England Triumphs <net@newenglandtr=
iumphs.org>; TR3 Triumphs <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] Pilot bush -- TR3
=20
=20
Thanks, Dave. Interesting. There seems to be a difference of opinion on this=
 subject. But, if the flywheel needs to be resurfaced anyway, it may be a mo=
ot point. I guess I=E2=80=99ll pull off the flywheel and, if the pilot bush s=
till doesn=E2=80=99t budge, I=E2=80=99ll have to take more drastic measures=E2=
=80=A6
=20
Dave
=20
=20
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 10:53 AM DAVE HOGYE <[email-masked]> wrote:
Hi Dave,
The flywheel does not need to come off.  There are tricks to removing the bu=
shing with a grease gun or jamming a piece of bread in there.  Forcing somet=
hing in there will push out the bush.
If you are replacing the clutch disc and pressure plate the flywheel should a=
lways come off and be resurfaced.
Dave H.=20
On 11/17/2021 7:03 AM David Friedlander <[email-masked]> wrote:
=20
=20
Good morning listers!
=20
A quick question: To remove the pilot bushing from the crank, do=20
I also have to remove the flywheel? I've already removed the disc=20
and pressure plate but the pilot doesn't seem to want to budge....
=20
Thanks for any insights,
=20
Dave
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Yup, this works, or, &nbsp;pump oil in to s=
oak the bread.&nbsp;<div>Bill B</div><div>TS30800L<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">=E2=80=9CLast night=
 I saw upon the stair,<br>A little man who wasn't there,<br>He wasn't there a=
gain today<br>Oh, how I wish he'd go away=E2=80=9D.... Mearns</span></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Nov 26, 2021, at 11:05 AM, Steve Kirby &lt;sackirby@ch=
inaautogroup.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif">OK, call me crazy, but watch this YouTube video on ho=
w to remove a pilot bushing or bearing with bread.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif"><a href=3D"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D00OlG5E8=
vLk">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D00OlG5E8vLk</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>=

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ibri&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif">I have found pullers to be of little use as it is har=
d to get a grip on the back side of the bushing=E2=80=A6..but this method ac=
tually works.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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ot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0070C0">Steve Kirby<o:p></o:p></span></i>=
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Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">China Auto Group<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif">22831 Avenida Empresa<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif">Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688 USA<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif">Direct:&nbsp; (949) 261-8208<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ibri&quot;,sans-serif">Fax:&nbsp; (949) 767-5949<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> Triumphs &lt;triumphs-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Triumph<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 17, 2021 8:14 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'David Friedlander' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; 'DAVE HOGYE' &lt;=
[email-masked]&gt;; 'New England Triumphs' &lt;[email-masked]=
rg&gt;; 'TR3 Triumphs' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Pilot bush -- TR3<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">When I tried to replace mine years ago o=
n my 59 TR3A, I tried all the usual tricks. I even bought a pilot bushing pu=
ller. Eventually I stuck my finger into the
 bushing and found I could move it fore and aft about 1/8 inch as it was loo=
se in the bore but it hit the back side of the flywheel and would go no furt=
her. Once I removed the flywheel it popped right out.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Afterwards, I measured the holes and th=
e flywheel hole was definitely smaller than the crankshaft hole.<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Bob Maassel<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Fort Wayne
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> Triumphs [<a href=3D"mailto:trium=
[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>David Friedlander<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 17, 2021 10:59 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> DAVE HOGYE &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">dlhogye@com=
cast.net</a>&gt;; New England Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:net@newenglandt=
riumphs.org">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; TR3 Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Pilot bush -- TR3<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks, Dave. Interesting. There seems to be a differ=
ence of opinion on this subject. But, if the flywheel needs to be resurfaced=
 anyway, it may be a moot point. I guess I=E2=80=99ll pull off the flywheel a=
nd, if the pilot bush still doesn=E2=80=99t budge,
 I=E2=80=99ll have to take more drastic measures=E2=80=A6<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dave<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 10:53 AM DAVE HOGYE &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o=
:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans=
-serif;color:#333333">Hi Dave,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans=
-serif;color:#333333">The flywheel does not need to come off.&nbsp; There ar=
e tricks to removing the bushing with a grease gun or jamming a piece of bre=
ad in there.&nbsp; Forcing something in there will push
 out the bush. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans=
-serif;color:#333333">If you are replacing the clutch disc and pressure plat=
e the flywheel should always come off and be resurfaced.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans=
-serif;color:#333333">Dave H.&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 11/17/2021 7:03 AM David Friedlander &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wro=
te:
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Com=
ic Sans MS&quot;;color:#000099">Good morning listers!
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Com=
ic Sans MS&quot;;color:#000099"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Com=
ic Sans MS&quot;;color:#000099">A quick question: To remove the pilot bushin=
g from the crank, do&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Com=
ic Sans MS&quot;;color:#000099">I also have to remove the flywheel? I've alr=
eady removed the disc&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Com=
ic Sans MS&quot;;color:#000099">and pressure plate but the pilot doesn't see=
m to want to budge....
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Com=
ic Sans MS&quot;;color:#000099"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Com=
ic Sans MS&quot;;color:#000099">Thanks for any insights,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Com=
ic Sans MS&quot;;color:#000099"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Com=
ic Sans MS&quot;;color:#000099">Dave
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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That=E2=80=99s awesome.  Love the bread trick.  Also have not seen a pilot b=
ushing like that before.  Glad you got it out.
Jim Henningsen

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> OK, call me crazy, but watch this YouTube video on how to remove a pilot b=
ushing or bearing with bread.
> I have found pullers to be of little use as it is hard to get a grip on th=
e back side of the bushing=E2=80=A6..but this method actually works.
> To: 'David Friedlander' <[email-masked]>; 'DAVE HOGYE' <dlhogye@comcas=
t.net>; 'New England Triumphs' <[email-masked]>; 'TR3 Triumphs' <=
[email-masked]>
> When I tried to replace mine years ago on my 59 TR3A, I tried all the usua=
l tricks. I even bought a pilot bushing puller. Eventually I stuck my finger=
 into the bushing and found I could move it fore and aft about 1/8 inch as i=
t was loose in the bore but it hit the back side of the flywheel and would g=
o no further. Once I removed the flywheel it popped right out.
> Afterwards, I measured the holes and the flywheel hole was definitely smal=
ler than the crankshaft hole.
> Bob Maassel
> Fort Wayne
> =20
> From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of David=
 Friedlander
> To: DAVE HOGYE <[email-masked]>; New England Triumphs <net@newengland=
triumphs.org>; TR3 Triumphs <[email-masked]>
> Thanks, Dave. Interesting. There seems to be a difference of opinion on th=
is subject. But, if the flywheel needs to be resurfaced anyway, it may be a m=
oot point. I guess I=E2=80=99ll pull off the flywheel and, if the pilot bush=
 still doesn=E2=80=99t budge, I=E2=80=99ll have to take more drastic measure=
s=E2=80=A6
> The flywheel does not need to come off.  There are tricks to removing the b=
ushing with a grease gun or jamming a piece of bread in there.  Forcing some=
thing in there will push out the bush.
> If you are replacing the clutch disc and pressure plate the flywheel shoul=
d always come off and be resurfaced.
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bsp;Love the bread trick. &nbsp;Also have not seen a pilot bushing like that=
 before. &nbsp;Glad you got it out.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jim Henningsen</di=
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