Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A rear main seal w/ engine in

From: Frank Fisher <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2021 17:09:38 +0000 (UTC)

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 you would have to drop the crank a long way Art.
maybe as much as 4/5 inches
Frank
    On Wednesday, November 3, 2021, 10:03:31 AM PDT, Art McEwen <artwmcewen=
@gmail.com> wrote: =20
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 Can a vitron seal be installed while the engine is in place if the gearbox=
 is out?

When I put the car up for winter storage I pulled the gearbox for a rebuild=
 but I quickly realized most of the oil leakage was from the rear main cran=
k seal.=C2=A0 However the winter storage area is gravel beside the garage w=
ithout room to get an engine lift to the front (or maneuver it well on grav=
el).=C2=A0 Alternatively, I=E2=80=99d have to push the car up hill into the=
 garage (all my car friends are distant and/or old).

Is it wishful thinking to contemplate pulling the pan and loosening the cra=
nk bolts to install the vitron upgraded seal from underneath?

Thanks,

Art
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">you would have to drop the c=
rank a long way Art.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">maybe as much as 4/5 inches</div><di=
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                    On Wednesday, November 3, 2021, 10:03:31 AM PDT, Art Mc=
Ewen &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div dir=3D"ltr">Can a vitron seal be installed while =
the engine is in place if the gearbox is out?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">When I put the car up for winter storage I pulled t=
he gearbox for a rebuild but I quickly realized most of the oil leakage was=
 from the rear main crank seal.&nbsp; However the winter storage area is gr=
avel beside the garage without room to get an engine lift to the front (or =
maneuver it well on gravel).&nbsp; Alternatively, I=E2=80=99d have to push =
the car up hill into the garage (all my car friends are distant and/or old)=
.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Is it wishful thinki=
ng to contemplate pulling the pan and loosening the crank bolts to install =
the vitron upgraded seal from underneath?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D=
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o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I suppose you could but it wouldn=E2=80=
=99t be easy and the results might disappoint. In that area in addition to =
the crank seal you must also carefully seal the rear bearing cap to block c=
avity. I have found that cavity is as much if not more of a leak path than =
the crank. The scroll type seal used on our cars is really quite good if se=
t up properly by the work shop manual. But in my experience the cap to bloc=
k seal cavity gets overlooked and I=E2=80=99ve seen significant leakage fro=
m a poor job with that area. Might be hard doing that from below. Many an e=
ngine rebuild has disappointed the owner because the cap to block is actual=
ly leaking but the crank seal gets the blame.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Just my 2 cents worth.</p><p class=3DM=
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</b>Wednesday, November 3, 2021 1:03 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:tri=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject: </b>[TR] T=
R3A rear main seal w/ engine in</p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Can a vitron seal be installed while the engin=
e is in place if the gearbox is out?</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>When I put the car up for winter storage I pull=
ed the gearbox for a rebuild but I quickly realized most of the oil leakage=
 was from the rear main crank seal.=C2=A0 However the winter storage area i=
s gravel beside the garage without room to get an engine lift to the front =
(or maneuver it well on gravel).=C2=A0 Alternatively, I=E2=80=99d have to p=
ush the car up hill into the garage (all my car friends are distant and/or =
old).</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Is =
it wishful thinking to contemplate pulling the pan and loosening the crank =
bolts to install the vitron upgraded seal from underneath?</p><p class=3DMs=
oNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks,</p><p class=3DMso=
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I think you=92d have to remove the timing cover and timing chain to get the=
 crankshaft to move that far.

My opinion =96 it would be less work to pull the engine than to try to repl=
ace the rear seal on the car.

Cliff

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Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A rear main seal w/ engine in

Frank

On Wednesday, November 3, 2021, 10:03:31 AM PDT, Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gma=
il.com> wrote:

Can a vitron seal be installed while the engine is in place if the gearbox =
is out?

When I put the car up for winter storage I pulled the gearbox for a rebuild=
 but I quickly realized most of the oil leakage was from the rear main cran=
k seal.  However the winter storage area is gravel beside the garage withou=
t room to get an engine lift to the front (or maneuver it well on gravel). =
 Alternatively, I=92d have to push the car up hill into the garage (all my =
car friends are distant and/or old).

Thanks,

Art

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I think you=92d have to remove the timing cover and =
timing chain to get the crankshaft to move that far.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">My opinion =96 it would be less work to pull the eng=
ine than to try to replace the rear seal on the car.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cliff</p>
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<b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, November 3, 2021 11:10 AM<br>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [TR] TR3A rear main seal w/ engine in</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif">you would have to drop the crank a long way Art.<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif">maybe as much as 4/5 inches<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
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03:31 AM PDT, Art McEwen &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282A">Can a vitron seal be installed whil=
e the engine is in place if the gearbox is out?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282A">When I put the car up for winter st=
orage I pulled the gearbox for a rebuild but I quickly realized most of the=
 oil leakage was from the rear main crank seal.&nbsp;
 However the winter storage area is gravel beside the garage without room t=
o get an engine lift to the front (or maneuver it well on gravel).&nbsp; Al=
ternatively, I=92d have to push the car up hill into the garage (all my car=
 friends are distant and/or old).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282A">Is it wishful thinking to contempla=
te pulling the pan and loosening the crank bolts to install the vitron upgr=
aded seal from underneath?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
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