Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 racing history

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Paul Newman versus Lee Mueller.  I sure wish I could have seen that one.

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Subject: [TR] TR6 racing history

I=92m looking for info on TR6 racing history.  Googling is not giving me mu=
ch

I thought I had read that a TR6 eked out a win against a TR7 around 1976?

Thanks!

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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2021 12:48:32 +0000 (UTC)

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 There is a guy in the St. Louis region, Dennis Wilson (no, not the Beach B=
oy) who raced a TR6 in the late 70's at a time the factory was running a TR=
7 (TR6 was out of production at this time).=C2=A0 He had film footage of a =
race where he was leading a race with a factory Porsche 924 hot on his tail=
.=C2=A0 One lap to go and Dennis lost a section of tire tread and the Porsc=
he slipped by.=C2=A0 The commentary was hilarious.=C2=A0 The play-by-play g=
uys were incredulous that this dowager TR6, a car designed in the 50's, was=
 beating Porsche's latest offering.=C2=A0 And he would have had the tire he=
ld together.=20

Also, all the while the factory TR7 was a close third.

I checked You Tube but I could not find that film posted.=C2=A0 But if you =
look up Wilson Motors, that's the guy.
Didn't Paul Newman race a TR6 at one point?=C2=A0 Group 44?
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Dave=20

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<div> <font size=3D"3">There is a guy in the St. Louis region, Dennis Wilso=
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ctory was running a TR7 (TR6 was out of production at this time).&nbsp; He =
had film footage of a race where he was leading a race with a factory Porsc=
he 924 hot on his tail.&nbsp; One lap to go and Dennis lost a section of ti=
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<div><font size=3D"3">Also, all the while the factory TR7 was a close third=
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<div><font size=3D"3">I checked <span style=3D"font-style: italic;">You Tub=
e</span> but I could not find that film posted.&nbsp; But if you look up Wi=
lson Motors, that's the guy.</font></div>

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<div><font size=3D"3">Didn't Paul Newman race a TR6 at one point?&nbsp; Gro=
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From: dave &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
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Sent: Thu, Aug 5, 2021 3:58 pm<br>
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<div class=3D"yiv0109587246MsoNormal">I thought I had read that a TR6 eked =
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<div class=3D"yiv0109587246MsoNormal">Thanks!</div>
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Best I can tell, Paul Newman won the 1976 SCCA D Production championship =
in a TR6, beating the factory TR7.  That was Newman Haas Racing, not =
Group 44.  Rumor has it that he purchased the car from Group 44 car as =
they had moved on to Jaguars I think.  That=E2=80=99s all I can find.=20

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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Friday, August 6, 2021 7:49 AM
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 racing history

=20

There is a guy in the St. Louis region, Dennis Wilson (no, not the Beach =
Boy) who raced a TR6 in the late 70's at a time the factory was running =
a TR7 (TR6 was out of production at this time).  He had film footage of =
a race where he was leading a race with a factory Porsche 924 hot on his =
tail.  One lap to go and Dennis lost a section of tire tread and the =
Porsche slipped by.  The commentary was hilarious.  The play-by-play =
guys were incredulous that this dowager TR6, a car designed in the 50's, =
was beating Porsche's latest offering.  And he would have had the tire =
held together.=20

=20

=20

I checked You Tube but I could not find that film posted.  But if you =
look up Wilson Motors, that's the guy.

=20

Didn't Paul Newman race a TR6 at one point?  Group 44?

=20

Dave=20

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From: dave <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Sent: Thu, Aug 5, 2021 3:58 pm
Subject: [6pack] TR6 racing history

I=E2=80=99m looking for info on TR6 racing history.  Googling is not =
giving me much

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I thought I had read that a TR6 eked out a win against a TR7 around =
1976?

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Thanks!

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Best I can tell, Paul Newman =
won the 1976 SCCA D Production championship in a TR6, beating the =
factory TR7.=C2=A0 That was Newman Haas Racing, not Group 44.=C2=A0 =
Rumor has it that he purchased the car from Group 44 car as they had =
moved on to Jaguars I think.=C2=A0 That=E2=80=99s all I can find. =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> DAVID MASSEY =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 6, 2021 7:49 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]; [email-masked]; =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [6pack] TR6 racing =
history<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The=
re is a guy in the St. Louis region, Dennis Wilson (no, not the Beach =
Boy) who raced a TR6 in the late 70's at a time the factory was running =
a TR7 (TR6 was out of production at this time).&nbsp; He had film =
footage of a race where he was leading a race with a factory Porsche 924 =
hot on his tail.&nbsp; One lap to go and Dennis lost a section of tire =
tread and the Porsche slipped by.&nbsp; The commentary was =
hilarious.&nbsp; The play-by-play guys were incredulous that this =
<i>dowager </i>TR6, a car designed in the 50's, was beating Porsche's =
latest offering.&nbsp; And he would have had the tire held together. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Als=
o, all the while the factory TR7 was a close =
third.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I =
checked <i>You Tube</i> but I could not find that film posted.&nbsp; But =
if you look up Wilson Motors, that's the =
guy.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Did=
n't Paul Newman race a TR6 at one point?&nbsp; Group =
44?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
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style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dav=
e </span><span =
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--Original Message-----<br>From: dave &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>To: =
[email-masked]; [email-masked]<br>Sent: Thu, Aug 5, 2021 =
3:58 pm<br>Subject: [6pack] TR6 racing history<o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
id=3Dyiv0109587246><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I=E2=
=80=99m looking for info on TR6 racing history.&nbsp; Googling is not =
giving me much<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I =
thought I had read that a TR6 eked out a win against a TR7 around =
1976?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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Talk to Ted Schumacher (tsimportedautomotive.com)
He was DRIVING/RACING TR7's back then!� LOTS of stories with him and 
Cook and Tullius!
We must have spent the better part of an evening watching a crap load of 
his old videos in his living room one evening.

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    <p>Talk to Ted Schumacher (tsimportedautomotive.com)<br>
      He was DRIVING/RACING TR7's back then!� LOTS of stories with him
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      We must have spent the better part of an evening watching a crap
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1975 SCCA national championship john mccomb in a TR6 driving for Group 44.  

not sure what class.  Anyone know?

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From: Mark J Bradakis <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2021 20:54:46 -0600

> not sure what class.  Anyone know?

The carb version was D Production, the injected ones were C Production.  
Paul Newman's car is still around as far as I knw, I have seen it at a 
few Kastner Cup events.

mjb.

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From: DAVE HOGYE <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2021 08:47:58 -0700 (PDT)

Paul Newman's TR6 was the champ winning Group 44 car.  He purchased it moments after it won the championship, right after the race.  He painted it black and silver, like his other cars.  Bill Warner owned it until recently.  Bill had it restored back to Group 44 livery.  Bill also owns one of the Group 44 TR8s.  The TR6 was purchased by Adam Carolla.  Adam has been buying every race car Paul ever owned or drove. The TR6 has been restored back to the black and silver Newman livery.  
Search Adam Carolla or Paul Newman's race cars to find out more. 
Good stuff.
Dave H. 
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