Subject: Re: [TR] Flat Towing a TR6

From: Johnnie Donnelly <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 19:22:49 -0700

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Many many moons ago, the oil pump shaft broke rendering the engine useless.
Decided to get a tow dolly and pull it 500 miles to home. That was in 1972.
The tranny still functioned perfectly 40 years later before being replaced
by a HVDA toyota. So there's two issues here; is flat towing really a
problem?   and .... can a Toyota conversion be flat towed?

Johnnie

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 9:46 PM Sujit Roy <[email-masked]> wrote:

> That's a great demo. My son asked me how a gearbox worked and I told him
> why didnt he ask me a few months earlier.  I had a Triumph Stag box apart
> and just pit back the top cover
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 11:12 AM <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>> That is really cool.  Good show!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Triumphs <[email-masked]> *On Behalf Of *Dean
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 23, 2020 10:44 AM
>> *To:* Mark J Bradakis <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
>> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Flat Towing a TR6
>>
>>
>>
>> I built a cut away transmission to show people how a transmission works
>>  and always showed them how the oil level was below
>>
>> The main gears and if they don=E2=80=99t turn they don=E2=80=99t bring u=
p the oil.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dean Tetterton
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The black line shows the oil level. By turning the output flange you can
>> see gears sitting still and not pulling up the oil.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> By turning the knob on the clutch disc you can operate the gears.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> You can also shift all the gears while it is turning.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986> for
>> Windows 10
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Mark J Bradakis <[email-masked]>
>> *Sent: *Monday, November 23, 2020 11:40 AM
>> *To: [email-masked]
>> *Subject: *Re: [TR] Flat Towing a TR6
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/22/20 7:50 PM, dave wrote:
>>
>> > But if you are flat towing the car, the transmission gears are moving.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Actually the gears are NOT moving.  Just the mainshaft is turning, in
>>
>> unlubricated bearings and syncro bushings.
>>
>>
>>
>> mjb.
>>
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Man=
y many moons ago, the oil pump shaft broke rendering the engine useless. De=
cided to get a tow dolly and pull it 500 miles to home. That was in 1972. T=
he tranny still functioned perfectly 40 years later before being replaced b=
y a HVDA toyota. So there&#39;s two issues here; is flat towing really a pr=
oblem?=C2=A0 =C2=A0and .... can a Toyota conversion be flat towed?</div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Johnnie</div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 23, 2020=
 at 9:46 PM Sujit Roy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">triumphs=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddi=
ng-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">That&#39;s a great demo. My son asked me how=
 a gearbox worked and I told him why didnt he ask me a few months earlier.=
=C2=A0 I had a Triumph Stag box apart and just pit back the top cover</div>=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon=
, Nov 23, 2020, 11:12 AM  &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"overflow-wrap: br=
eak-word;"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">That is really cool.=C2=A0 Good show=
!<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div style=3D"border-right:none=
;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);=
padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"=
_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dean<br=
><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 23, 2020 10:44 AM<br><b>To:</b> Mark J Brada=
kis &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_=
blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Su=
bject:</b> Re: [TR] Flat Towing a TR6<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I built a cut=
 away transmission to show people how a transmission works =C2=A0and always=
 showed them how the oil level was below <u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal">The main gears and if they don=E2=80=99t turn they don=E2=80=99t bri=
ng up the oil.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dean Tetterton<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><img width=3D"793" height=3D"531" style=3D"width:=
 8.2604in; height: 5.5312in;" id=3D"gmail-m_-8006370898837237141m_-70739974=
23245416296Picture_x0020_3"><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The bl=
ack line shows the oil level. By turning the output flange you can see gear=
s sitting still and not pulling up the oil.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><img width=3D"793" height=3D"531" style=3D"widt=
h: 8.2604in; height: 5.5312in;" id=3D"gmail-m_-8006370898837237141m_-707399=
7423245416296Picture_x0020_4"><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">By t=
urning the knob on the clutch disc you can operate the gears.<u></u><u></u>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><img width=3D"793" height=3D"=
531" style=3D"width: 8.2604in; height: 5.5312in;" id=3D"gmail-m_-8006370898=
837237141m_-7073997423245416296Picture_x0020_5"><u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">You can also shift all the gears while it is turning. <u></u=
><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal">Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D55098=
6" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">Mail</a> for Windows 10<u></u><u></=
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ight:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,=
225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">Mark J B=
radakis</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, November 23, 2020 11:40 AM<br><b>To: </=
b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_=
blank">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [TR] Flat Towing =
a TR6<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 11/22/20 7:50 PM, dave wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">&gt; But if you are flat towing the car, the transmis=
sion gears are moving.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">Actually the gears are NOT moving.=C2=A0 Just the mainshaft is tur=
ning, in <u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">unlubricated bearings and=
 syncro bushings.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u><=
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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 11:37:07 +0000 (UTC)

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 I flat towed a TR6 50 miles.=C2=A0 Within a year the transmission was maki=
ng ominous noises of galled mainshaft bushings.=C2=A0 But others have made =
reports of no issues.
Quick question: did your transmission have overdrive?=C2=A0 I have a workin=
g theory that transmissions with overdrive survive much better because the =
moving drive shaft will rotate the planetary gear assembly which is partial=
ly submerged in oil.=C2=A0 The rotating planetary gear assembly will distri=
bute oil about the OD case and some, enough, finds its way into the main ge=
arset lubricating the mainshaft bushings.=C2=A0 Non-overdrive transmissions=
 have no such feature and the bushings go dry.
I know nothing about the Toyota box but I suspect it is more like the non-O=
D Triumph unit.

=20
Dave=20

=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Johnnie Donnelly <[email-masked]>
To: Sujit Roy <[email-masked]>
Cc: Triumphs <[email-masked]>
Sent: Tue, Jul 6, 2021 9:22 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Flat Towing a TR6

Many many moons ago, the oil pump shaft broke rendering the engine useless.=
 Decided to get a tow dolly and pull it 500 miles to home. That was in 1972=
. The tranny still functioned perfectly 40 years later before being replace=
d by a HVDA toyota. So there's two issues here; is flat towing really a pro=
blem?=C2=A0 =C2=A0and .... can a Toyota conversion be flat towed?
Johnnie
On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 9:46 PM Sujit Roy <[email-masked]> wrote:

That's a great demo. My son asked me how a gearbox worked and I told him wh=
y didnt he ask me a few months earlier.=C2=A0 I had a Triumph Stag box apar=
t and just pit back the top cover
On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 11:12 AM <[email-masked]> wrote:

That is really cool.=C2=A0 Good show!=C2=A0=C2=A0From: Triumphs <triumphs-b=
[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Dean
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 10:44 AM
To: Mark J Bradakis <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] Flat Towing a TR6=C2=A0I built a cut away transmission to=
 show people how a transmission works =C2=A0and always showed them how the =
oil level was below The main gears and if they don=E2=80=99t turn they don=
=E2=80=99t bring up the oil.=C2=A0Dean Tetterton=C2=A0=C2=A0The black line =
shows the oil level. By turning the output flange you can see gears sitting=
 still and not pulling up the oil.=C2=A0=C2=A0By turning the knob on the cl=
utch disc you can operate the gears.=C2=A0=C2=A0You can also shift all the =
gears while it is turning. =C2=A0Sent from Mail for Windows 10=C2=A0From: M=
ark J Bradakis
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 11:40 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] Flat Towing a TR6=C2=A0On 11/22/20 7:50 PM, dave wrote:> =
But if you are flat towing the car, the transmission gears are moving.=C2=
=A0=C2=A0Actually the gears are NOT moving.=C2=A0 Just the mainshaft is tur=
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<div style=3D"color:black;font: 12pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<div> <font size=3D"3">I flat towed a TR6 50 miles.&nbsp; Within a year the=
 transmission was making ominous noises of galled mainshaft bushings.&nbsp;=
 But others have made reports of no issues.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">Quick question: did your transmission have overdrive?=
&nbsp; I have a working theory that transmissions with overdrive survive mu=
ch better because the moving drive shaft will rotate the planetary gear ass=
embly which is partially submerged in oil.&nbsp; The rotating planetary gea=
r assembly will distribute oil about the OD case and some, enough, finds it=
s way into the main gearset lubricating the mainshaft bushings.&nbsp; Non-o=
verdrive transmissions have no such feature and the bushings go dry.</font>=
</div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">I know nothing about the Toyota box but I suspect it =
is more like the non-OD Triumph unit.<br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"></font><br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
<br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black"><font=
 size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Johnnie Donnelly &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: Sujit Roy &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Tue, Jul 6, 2021 9:22 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] Flat Towing a TR6<br>
<br>

<div id=3D"yiv0982776650">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"yiv0982776650gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;">Many m=
any moons ago, the oil pump shaft broke rendering the engine useless. Decid=
ed to get a tow dolly and pull it 500 miles to home. That was in 1972. The =
tranny still functioned perfectly 40 years later before being replaced by a=
 HVDA toyota. So there's two issues here; is flat towing really a problem?&=
nbsp; &nbsp;and .... can a Toyota conversion be flat towed?</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0982776650gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;"><br>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0982776650gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small;">Johnni=
e</div>
</div>
<br>

<div class=3D"yiv0982776650gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv0982776650gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at =
9:46 PM Sujit Roy &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:triumphstag@gm=
ail.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"yiv0982776650gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">
<div>That's a great demo. My son asked me how a gearbox worked and I told h=
im why didnt he ask me a few months earlier.&nbsp; I had a Triumph Stag box=
 apart and just pit back the top cover</div>
<br>

<div class=3D"yiv0982776650gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv0982776650gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 11=
:12 AM  &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:jpayn=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">jpaynepbr=
@cox.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"yiv0982776650gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">
<div style=3D"" lang=3D"EN-US">
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal">That is really cool.&nbsp; Good show!=
<u></u><u></u></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></div>

<div>
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top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in;">
<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs &lt;<a rel=3D"n=
ofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">triu=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dean<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 23, 2020 10:44 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mark J Bradakis &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymai=
lto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:mark@brad=
akis.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer=
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Flat Towing a TR6<u></u><u></u></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal">I built a cut away transmission to sh=
ow people how a transmission works &nbsp;and always showed them how the oil=
 level was below <u></u><u></u></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal">The main gears and if they don=E2=80=
=99t turn they don=E2=80=99t bring up the oil.<u></u><u></u></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal">Dean Tetterton<u></u><u></u></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal"><img style=3D"width:8.2604in;min-heig=
ht:5.5312in;" id=3D"yiv0982776650gmail-m_-8006370898837237141m_-70739974232=
45416296Picture_x0020_3" width=3D"793" height=3D"531"><u></u><u></u></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal">The black line shows the oil level. B=
y turning the output flange you can see gears sitting still and not pulling=
 up the oil.<u></u><u></u></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal"><img style=3D"width:8.2604in;min-heig=
ht:5.5312in;" id=3D"yiv0982776650gmail-m_-8006370898837237141m_-70739974232=
45416296Picture_x0020_4" width=3D"793" height=3D"531"><u></u><u></u></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal">By turning the knob on the clutch dis=
c you can operate the gears.<u></u><u></u></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal"><img style=3D"width:8.2604in;min-heig=
ht:5.5312in;" id=3D"yiv0982776650gmail-m_-8006370898837237141m_-70739974232=
45416296Picture_x0020_5" width=3D"793" height=3D"531"><u></u><u></u></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal">You can also shift all the gears whil=
e it is turning. <u></u><u></u></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal">Sent from <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener=
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<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></div>

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top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in;">
<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow noope=
ner noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Mark J Bradakis</a><br>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [TR] Flat Towing a TR6<u></u><u></u></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal">On 11/22/20 7:50 PM, dave wrote:<u></=
u><u></u></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal">&gt; But if you are flat towing the c=
ar, the transmission gears are moving.<u></u><u></u></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal">Actually the gears are NOT moving.&nb=
sp; Just the mainshaft is turning, in <u></u><u></u></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal">unlubricated bearings and syncro bush=
ings.<u></u><u></u></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></div>

<div class=3D"yiv0982776650MsoNormal">mjb.<u></u><u></u></div>

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