Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate

From: Art McEwen <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 16:35:20 -0400

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Btw any idea of the torque for the nuts/bolts on the solenoid plate?

> On Jul 15, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Art McEwen <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> Thanks!
>=20
> Art
>=20
>> On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11:25 AM DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> wrote:
>> Nothing will go sproing but you will likely loose your solenoid adjustmen=
t.  Not a big deal as adjusting is pretty simple.
>>=20
>> Dave=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Art McEwen <[email-masked]>
>> To: [email-masked]
>> Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 9:48 am
>> Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
>>=20
>> It's weeping oil (even more than "acceptable"), can I loosen the 4 screws=
 to add gasket goop without misaligning the plunger/spring thingy behind it o=
r is it safe to remove entirely while in place without something going "spro=
ng"?
>>=20
>> Thanks,
>>=20
>> Art=20
>> TS64???LO=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">Btw any idea of the torque=
 for the nuts/bolts on the solenoid plate?</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite">On Jul 15, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Art McEwen &lt;artwmcewen@gm=
ail.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"auto">Thanks!<br><br><div data-smartmail=3D"=
gmail_signature">Art</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"l=
tr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11:25 AM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"color:black;font:12pt Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<div> <font size=3D"3">Nothing will go sproing but you will likely loose you=
r solenoid adjustment.&nbsp; Not a big deal as adjusting is pretty simple.</=
font><br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
<br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

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ize=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Art McEwen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nore=
ferrer">[email-masked]</a><br>
Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 9:48 am<br>
Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate<br>
<br>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div>It's weeping oil (even more than "acceptable"), can I loosen the 4 scre=
ws to add gasket goop without misaligning the plunger/spring thingy behind i=
t or is it safe to remove entirely while in place without something going "s=
prong"?<br>
</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Thanks,</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Art <br>
</div>

<div>TS64???LO <br>
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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 22:28:13 +0000 (UTC)

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 Not off hand but it should be listed in the ROM.=C2=A0 Those are 5/16 fast=
eners so it shouldn't take much.=C2=A0 10 Lb-Ft or so.
=20
Dave=20

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-----Original Message-----
From: Art McEwen <[email-masked]>
To: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 3:35 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate

=EF=BB=BFThanks!

Art

 Nothing will go sproing but you will likely loose your solenoid adjustment=
.=C2=A0 Not a big deal as adjusting is pretty simple.
=20
Dave=20

=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Art McEwen <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 9:48 am
Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate

It's weeping oil (even more than "acceptable"), can I loosen the 4 screws t=
o add gasket goop without misaligning the plunger/spring thingy behind it o=
r is it safe to remove entirely while in place without something going "spr=
ong"?

Thanks,
Art=20
TS64???LO=20

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<div style=3D"color:black;font: 12pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<div> <font size=3D"3">Not off hand but it should be listed in the ROM.&nbs=
p; Those are 5/16 fasteners so it shouldn't take much.&nbsp; 10 Lb-Ft or so=
.</font><br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div> <br>
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 size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Art McEwen &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: DAVID MASSEY &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: [email-masked]<br>
Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 3:35 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate<br>
<br>

<div id=3D"yiv0566228665">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Btw any idea of the torque for the nuts/bolts on the solen=
oid plate?</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"yiv0566228665yqt9380581062" id=3D"yiv0566228665yqtfd15628"><b=
r clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jul 15, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Art=
 McEwen &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"=
none"></blockquote></div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv0566228665yqt9380581062" id=3D"yiv0566228665yqtfd06197"><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
<div>Thanks!<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">
<div>Art</div>
</div>
<br clear=3D"none">
<div class=3D"yiv0566228665gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"yiv0566228665gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11=
:25 AM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"re=
ct" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></d=
iv>
<blockquote class=3D"yiv0566228665gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">

<div style=3D"color:black;font:12pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">

<div> <font size=3D"3">Nothing will go sproing but you will likely loose yo=
ur solenoid adjustment.&nbsp; Not a big deal as adjusting is pretty simple.=
</font><br clear=3D"none">
</div>

<div> <br clear=3D"none">
</div>

<div style=3D"clear:both;"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
</div>

<div> <br clear=3D"none">
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</div>

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nt size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">
From: Art McEwen &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect"=
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o:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.=
team.net">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none">
Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 9:48 am<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate<br clear=3D"none">
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<div>It's weeping oil (even more than "acceptable"), can I loosen the 4 scr=
ews to add gasket goop without misaligning the plunger/spring thingy behind=
 it or is it safe to remove entirely while in place without something going=
 "sprong"?<br clear=3D"none">
</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>

<div>Thanks,</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>

<div>Art <br clear=3D"none">
</div>

<div>TS64???LO <br clear=3D"none">
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From: Art McEwen <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2021 14:23:49 -0400

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Nothing went sproing when I took the plate off and I think I=E2=80=99ve got t=
he leak sealed but no amount of solenoid adjustment will engage the overdriv=
e.  :(. The springs weren=E2=80=99t removed and I presume they=E2=80=99re st=
ill seated where they were.

I=E2=80=99m wondering if some of the sludge in the bottom of the case that I=
 tried to remove got relocated to a valve body somewhere.  Thinking of takin=
g it for a road test then changing fluid again.

ve
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">Nothing went sproing when I=
 took the plate off and I think I=E2=80=99ve got the leak sealed but no amou=
nt of solenoid adjustment will engage the overdrive. &nbsp;:(. The springs w=
eren=E2=80=99t removed and I presume they=E2=80=99re still seated where they=
 were.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I=E2=80=99m wonderin=
g if some of the sludge in the bottom of the case that I tried to remove got=
 relocated to a valve body somewhere. &nbsp;Thinking of taking it for a road=
 test then changing fluid again.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D=
"cite">On Jul 15, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Art McEwen &lt;[email-masked]&gt; w=
rote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=
=BB=BF<div dir=3D"auto">Thanks!<br><br><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signatur=
e">Art</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_attr">On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11:25 AM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"color:black;font:12pt Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<div> <font size=3D"3">Nothing will go sproing but you will likely loose you=
r solenoid adjustment.&nbsp; Not a big deal as adjusting is pretty simple.</=
font><br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Thanks,</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Art <br>
</div>

<div>TS64???LO <br>
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Before you do anything else, do a load test on the battery. Even if it =
is producing 12 volts it may not be producing the 20 amps needed to =
engage the OD.=20

Bob

=20

From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Art =
McEwen
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:24 AM
To: DAVID MASSEY
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate

=20

Nothing went sproing when I took the plate off and I think I=E2=80=99ve =
got the leak sealed but no amount of solenoid adjustment will engage the =
overdrive.  :(. The springs weren=E2=80=99t removed and I presume =
they=E2=80=99re still seated where they were.

=20

I=E2=80=99m wondering if some of the sludge in the bottom of the case =
that I tried to remove got relocated to a valve body somewhere.  =
Thinking of taking it for a road test then changing fluid again.

=EF=BB=BF

Thanks!

Art

=20

Nothing will go sproing but you will likely loose your solenoid =
adjustment.  Not a big deal as adjusting is pretty simple.

=20

Dave=20

=20

=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Art McEwen <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 9:48 am
Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate

It's weeping oil (even more than "acceptable"), can I loosen the 4 =
screws to add gasket goop without misaligning the plunger/spring thingy =
behind it or is it safe to remove entirely while in place without =
something going "sprong"?

=20

Thanks,

=20

Art=20

TS64???LO=20

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it is producing 12 volts it may not be producing the 20 amps needed to =
engage the OD. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
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Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Art McEwen<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:24 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> DAVID MASSEY<br><b>Cc:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid =
plate<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Nothing =
went sproing when I took the plate off and I think I=E2=80=99ve got the =
leak sealed but no amount of solenoid adjustment will engage the =
overdrive. &nbsp;:(. The springs weren=E2=80=99t removed and I presume =
they=E2=80=99re still seated where they =
were.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I=E2=80=99m wondering if some of the sludge in the =
bottom of the case that I tried to remove got relocated to a valve body =
somewhere. &nbsp;Thinking of taking it for a road test then changing =
fluid again.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jul 15, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Art McEwen =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>=EF=BB=BF</span><o:p></o:p></=
p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Art<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11:25 AM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Nothing will go =
sproing but you will likely loose your solenoid adjustment.&nbsp; Not a =
big deal as adjusting is pretty =
simple.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>D=
ave </span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-=
----Original Message-----<br>From: Art McEwen &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br>Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 =
9:48 am<br>Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid =
plate<o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
id=3D"m_-568949139145977063yiv2214504240"><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I=
t's weeping oil (even more than &quot;acceptable&quot;), can I loosen =
the 4 screws to add gasket goop without misaligning the plunger/spring =
thingy behind it or is it safe to remove entirely while in place without =
something going &quot;sprong&quot;?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>T=
hanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>A=
rt <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>T=
S64???LO <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>*=
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From: Art McEwen <[email-masked]>
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Hi Bob, solenoid itself is operating fine but o/d is not engaging (running i=
n 2nd gear on jacks).  Pretty sure it=E2=80=99s not the adjustment as I=E2=80=
=99ve lined it up with the hole on the far side (and a little either side). =
 Won=E2=80=99t engage when operated by hand either.

> On Jul 17, 2021, at 3:35 PM, Kinderlehrer <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> Before you do anything else, do a load test on the battery. Even if it is p=
roducing 12 volts it may not be producing the 20 amps needed to engage the O=
D.
> Bob
> =20
> From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Art M=
cEwen
> Nothing went sproing when I took the plate off and I think I=E2=80=99ve go=
t the leak sealed but no amount of solenoid adjustment will engage the overd=
rive.  :(. The springs weren=E2=80=99t removed and I presume they=E2=80=99re=
 still seated where they were.
> =20
> I=E2=80=99m wondering if some of the sludge in the bottom of the case that=
 I tried to remove got relocated to a valve body somewhere.  Thinking of tak=
ing it for a road test then changing fluid again.
> Nothing will go sproing but you will likely loose your solenoid adjustment=
.  Not a big deal as adjusting is pretty simple.
> Dave
o add gasket goop without misaligning the plunger/spring thingy behind it or=
 is it safe to remove entirely while in place without something going "spron=
g"?
> TS64???LO
e
>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Bob, solenoid itself is=
 operating fine but o/d is not engaging (running in 2nd gear on jacks). &nbs=
p;Pretty sure it=E2=80=99s not the adjustment as I=E2=80=99ve lined it up wi=
th the hole on the far side (and a little either side). &nbsp;Won=E2=80=99t e=
ngage when operated by hand either.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite">On Jul 17, 2021, at 3:35 PM, Kinderlehrer &lt;kinderlehrer@comca=
st.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div d=
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oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Before you do anything else, do a load te=
st on the battery. Even if it is producing 12 volts it may not be producing t=
he 20 amps needed to engage the OD. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Bob<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D"=
border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma=
&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Triumphs [mailto:=
[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Art McEwen<br><b>Sent:<=
/b> Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:24 AM<br><b>To:</b> DAVID MASSEY<br><b>Cc:</b=
> [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate=
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Nothing went sproing when I took the plate off=
 and I think I=E2=80=99ve got the leak sealed but no amount of solenoid adju=
stment will engage the overdrive. &nbsp;:(. The springs weren=E2=80=99t remo=
ved and I presume they=E2=80=99re still seated where they were.<o:p></o:p></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99m wondering if some of the sludge in the bottom of t=
he case that I tried to remove got relocated to a valve body somewhere. &nbs=
p;Thinking of taking it for a road test then changing fluid again.<o:p></o:p=
></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Jul 15, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Art McE=
wen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bot=
tom:5.0pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Taho=
ma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">=EF=BB=BF</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p><div><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal">Art<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o=
:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11=
:25 AM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">dave1massey@cs=
.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;bor=
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gin-right:0in"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&=
quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Nothing will go sproing=
 but you will likely loose your solenoid adjustment.&nbsp; Not a big deal as=
 adjusting is pretty simple.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;=
color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" s=
tyle=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Dave </span><span style=3D=
"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p></o:=
p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&q=
uot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial=
&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div=
><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:b=
lack">-----Original Message-----<br>From: Art McEwen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:a=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>To: <=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
eam.net</a><br>Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 9:48 am<br>Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Sole=
noid plate<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=3D"m_-568949139145977063yiv221450424=
0"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">It's weeping oil (=
even more than "acceptable"), can I loosen the 4 screws to add gasket goop w=
ithout misaligning the plunger/spring thingy behind it or is it safe to remo=
ve entirely while in place without something going "sprong"?<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Thanks=
,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:blac=
k"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black">Art <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&qu=
ot;;color:black">TS64???LO <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&q=
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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
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 With no load on the wheels the engine speed will not change but the speedo=
 will jump up.=C2=A0 This can be misleading if you don't know what to watch=
.
=20
Dave=20

=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Art McEwen <[email-masked]>
To: Kinderlehrer <[email-masked]>
Cc: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
Sent: Sat, Jul 17, 2021 2:44 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate

Hi Bob, solenoid itself is operating fine but o/d is not engaging (running =
in 2nd gear on jacks). =C2=A0Pretty sure it=E2=80=99s not the adjustment as=
 I=E2=80=99ve lined it up with the hole on the far side (and a little eithe=
r side). =C2=A0Won=E2=80=99t engage when operated by hand either.

On Jul 17, 2021, at 3:35 PM, Kinderlehrer <[email-masked]> wrote:

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ing the 20 amps needed to engage the OD. Bob =C2=A0From: Triumphs [mailto:t=
[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Art McEwen
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:24 AM
To: DAVID MASSEY
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate =C2=A0Nothing went sproing when I =
took the plate off and I think I=E2=80=99ve got the leak sealed but no amou=
nt of solenoid adjustment will engage the overdrive. =C2=A0:(. The springs =
weren=E2=80=99t removed and I presume they=E2=80=99re still seated where th=
ey were. =C2=A0I=E2=80=99m wondering if some of the sludge in the bottom of=
 the case that I tried to remove got relocated to a valve body somewhere. =
=C2=A0Thinking of taking it for a road test then changing fluid again.

On Jul 15, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Art McEwen <[email-masked]> wrote:
=EF=BB=BFThanks!Art =C2=A0On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11:25 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave=
[email-masked]> wrote:
Nothing will go sproing but you will likely loose your solenoid adjustment.=
=C2=A0 Not a big deal as adjusting is pretty simple. =C2=A0Dave  =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0-----Original Message-----
From: Art McEwen <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 9:48 am
Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plateIt's weeping oil (even more than "accep=
table"), can I loosen the 4 screws to add gasket goop without misaligning t=
he plunger/spring thingy behind it or is it safe to remove entirely while i=
n place without something going "sprong"? =C2=A0Thanks, =C2=A0Art TS64???LO=
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 size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Art McEwen &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: Kinderlehrer &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: DAVID MASSEY &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; [email-masked]<br>
Sent: Sat, Jul 17, 2021 2:44 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate<br>
<br>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Bob, solenoid itself is operating fine but o/d is not e=
ngaging (running in 2nd gear on jacks). &nbsp;Pretty sure it=E2=80=99s not =
the adjustment as I=E2=80=99ve lined it up with the hole on the far side (a=
nd a little either side). &nbsp;Won=E2=80=99t engage when operated by hand =
either.</div>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jul 17, 20=
21, at 3:35 PM, Kinderlehrer &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br cle=
ar=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></blockquote></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color=
:#1F497D;">Before you do anything else, do a load test on the battery. Even=
 if it is producing 12 volts it may not be producing the 20 amps needed to =
engage the OD. </span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color=
:#1F497D;">Bob</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color=
:#1F497D;"> &nbsp;</span></div>

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0in 0in;">
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From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> Triumphs [mailto:triumph=
[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Art McEwen<br clear=3D"none">=
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:24 AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> =
DAVID MASSEY<br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc:</b> [email-masked]<br clear=
=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate</span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal">Nothing went sproing when I took the =
plate off and I think I=E2=80=99ve got the leak sealed but no amount of sol=
enoid adjustment will engage the overdrive. &nbsp;:(. The springs weren=E2=
=80=99t removed and I presume they=E2=80=99re still seated where they were.=
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<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>
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<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99m wondering if some of the =
sludge in the bottom of the case that I tried to remove got relocated to a =
valve body somewhere. &nbsp;Thinking of taking it for a road test then chan=
ging fluid again.</div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"=
></div>

<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;">On Ju=
l 15, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Art McEwen &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferr=
er" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank=
" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<=
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v>

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<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;">Thank=
s!</div>

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<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal">Art</div>
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</div>

<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

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<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal">On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11:25 AM DAVID =
MASSEY &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:dave1massey=
@cs.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
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<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;">Nothing =
will go sproing but you will likely loose your solenoid adjustment.&nbsp; N=
ot a big deal as adjusting is pretty simple.</span></div>
</div>

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<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;"> &nbsp;<=
/span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;color:black;">Dave </span><span style=3D"color:b=
lack;"></span></div>
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/span></div>
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/span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">-----Original Message-----<br clea=
r=3D"none">From: Art McEwen &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" sha=
pe=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"n=
one">To: <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:triumphs@a=
utox.team.net">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none">Sent: Thu, Jul=
 15, 2021 9:48 am<br clear=3D"none">Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate</s=
pan></div>

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<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color=
:black;">It's weeping oil (even more than "acceptable"), can I loosen the 4=
 screws to add gasket goop without misaligning the plunger/spring thingy be=
hind it or is it safe to remove entirely while in place without something g=
oing "sprong"?</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color=
:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color=
:black;">Thanks,</span></div>
</div>

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:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv6808487530MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color=
:black;">Art </span></div>
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   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">A pressure test=
 with a gauge from Jay Holekamp is a great idea. While your waiting for its=
 arrival, loosen the clamping bolt and take the car for a ride. Reach acros=
s the transmission and operate the lever manually (the one you put the 3/16=
=E2=80=9D drill into when you adjust the solenoid). If the overdrive kicks =
in, you have a solenoid or solenoid adjustment problem. The overdrives O.K.=
 Better still have a passenger operate the lever, so that you can concentra=
te on your driving. And watch out for that spinning prop shaft. Loose cloth=
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   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">By the way, if =
you have a functioning ammeter and the solenoid is connected on its load si=
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    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: '=
Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Before you do anything else, do a l=
oad test on the battery. Even if it is producing 12 volts it may not be pro=
ducing the 20 amps needed to engage the OD. </span></p>=20
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: '=
Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Bob</span></p>=20
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      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font=
-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">From:</span></strong><span style=3D"font-s=
ize: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';"> Triumphs [mailto:triumph=
[email-masked]] <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Art McEwen<br><stro=
ng>Sent:</strong> Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:24 AM<br><strong>To:</strong> =
DAVID MASSEY<br><strong>Cc:</strong> [email-masked]<br><strong>Sub=
ject:</strong> Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate</span></p>=20
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    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=20
    <div>=20
     <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Nothing went sproing when I took the plate off =
and I think I=E2=80=99ve got the leak sealed but no amount of solenoid adju=
stment will engage the overdrive. &nbsp;:(. The springs weren=E2=80=99t rem=
oved and I presume they=E2=80=99re still seated where they were.</p>=20
    </div>=20
    <div>=20
     <p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=20
    </div>=20
    <div>=20
     <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99m wondering if some of the sludge in =
the bottom of the case that I tried to remove got relocated to a valve body=
 somewhere. &nbsp;Thinking of taking it for a road test then changing fluid=
 again.</p>=20
    </div>=20
    <div>=20
     <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br><br></p>=20
     <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;">On Jul 15, 202=
1, at 1:54 PM, Art McEwen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">artwm=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</p>=20
    </div>=20
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     <div>=20
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=20
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        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11:25 AM DAVID MASSEY =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:=
</p>=20
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          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Arial','sans-=
serif'; color: black;">Nothing will go sproing but you will likely loose yo=
ur solenoid adjustment.&nbsp; Not a big deal as adjusting is pretty simple.=
</span></p>=20
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Dave </span></p>=20
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-----Original Message-----<br>From: Art McEwen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:artwmc=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt;<br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" re=
l=3D"noopener">[email-masked]</a><br>Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 9:48 =
am<br>Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate</span></p>=20
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             <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black;">It's weeping oil (even more th=
an "acceptable"), can I loosen the 4 screws to add gasket goop without misa=
ligning the plunger/spring thingy behind it or is it safe to remove entirel=
y while in place without something going "sprong"?</span></p>=20
            </div>=20
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s doesn=E2=80=99t always show o/d operation. Or, it can be so subtle that i=
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    Hi Bob, solenoid itself is operating fine but o/d is not engaging (runn=
ing in 2nd gear on jacks). &nbsp;Pretty sure it=E2=80=99s not the adjustmen=
t as I=E2=80=99ve lined it up with the hole on the far side (and a little e=
ither side). &nbsp;Won=E2=80=99t engage when operated by hand either.
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      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family:=
 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Before you do anything else, do a=
 load test on the battery. Even if it is producing 12 volts it may not be p=
roducing the 20 amps needed to engage the OD. </span></p>=20
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family:=
 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Bob</span></p>=20
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nt-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">From:</span></strong><span style=3D"font=
-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';"> Triumphs [mailto:trium=
[email-masked]] <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Art McEwen<br><st=
rong>Sent:</strong> Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:24 AM<br><strong>To:</strong=
> DAVID MASSEY<br><strong>Cc:</strong> [email-masked]<br><strong>S=
ubject:</strong> Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate</span></p>=20
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       <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Nothing went sproing when I took the plate of=
f and I think I=E2=80=99ve got the leak sealed but no amount of solenoid ad=
justment will engage the overdrive. &nbsp;:(. The springs weren=E2=80=99t r=
emoved and I presume they=E2=80=99re still seated where they were.</p>=20
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       <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99m wondering if some of the sludge i=
n the bottom of the case that I tried to remove got relocated to a valve bo=
dy somewhere. &nbsp;Thinking of taking it for a road test then changing flu=
id again.</p>=20
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       <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;">On Jul 15, 2=
021, at 1:54 PM, Art McEwen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">art=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</p>=20
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          <p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11:25 AM DAVID MASSE=
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            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Arial','san=
s-serif'; color: black;">Nothing will go sproing but you will likely loose =
your solenoid adjustment.&nbsp; Not a big deal as adjusting is pretty simpl=
e.</span></p>=20
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">-----Original Message-----<br>From: Art McEwen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:artw=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt;<br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noopener">[email-masked]</a><br>Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 9:4=
8 am<br>Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate</span></p>=20
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t-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black;">It's weeping oil (even more =
than "acceptable"), can I loosen the 4 screws to add gasket goop without mi=
saligning the plunger/spring thingy behind it or is it safe to remove entir=
ely while in place without something going "sprong"?</span></p>=20
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There=E2=80=99s nothing wrong with the solenoid.  It operates just fine.

I removed and replaced the solenoid plate to deal with a leak and now the so=
lenoid doesn=E2=80=99t engage the o/d anymore while the car is running on ja=
cks.   I was hoping to avoid a half assembled road test.

> On Jul 17, 2021, at 9:18 PM, EDWARD WOODS <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> =EF=BB=BF
> A pressure test with a gauge from Jay Holekamp is a great idea. While your=
 waiting for its arrival, loosen the clamping bolt and take the car for a ri=
de. Reach across the transmission and operate the lever manually (the one yo=
u put the 3/16=E2=80=9D drill into when you adjust the solenoid). If the ove=
rdrive kicks in, you have a solenoid or solenoid adjustment problem. The ove=
rdrives O.K. Better still have a passenger operate the lever, so that you ca=
n concentrate on your driving. And watch out for that spinning prop shaft. L=
oose clothing not allowed.
> =20
> By the way, if you have a functioning ammeter and the solenoid is connecte=
d on its load side, you can observe the operation of the solenoid on the met=
er. =20
> =20
> Ed Woods
>> On 07/17/2021 3:35 PM Kinderlehrer <[email-masked]> wrote:
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>> =20
>> Before you do anything else, do a load test on the battery. Even if it is=
 producing 12 volts it may not be producing the 20 amps needed to engage the=
 OD.
cEwen
>> Nothing went sproing when I took the plate off and I think I=E2=80=99ve g=
ot the leak sealed but no amount of solenoid adjustment will engage the over=
drive.  :(. The springs weren=E2=80=99t removed and I presume they=E2=80=99r=
e still seated where they were.
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> I=E2=80=99m wondering if some of the sludge in the bottom of the case tha=
t I tried to remove got relocated to a valve body somewhere.  Thinking of ta=
king it for a road test then changing fluid again.
ve
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">There=E2=80=99s nothing wr=
ong with the solenoid. &nbsp;It operates just fine.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I removed and replaced the solenoid plate to deal w=
ith a leak and now the solenoid doesn=E2=80=99t engage the o/d anymore while=
 the car is running on jacks. &nbsp; I was hoping to avoid a half assembled r=
oad test.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jul 17, 202=
1, at 9:18 PM, EDWARD WOODS &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></bloc=
kquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

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lor: #333333;">
   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">A pressure test w=
ith a gauge from Jay Holekamp is a great idea. While your waiting for its ar=
rival, loosen the clamping bolt and take the car for a ride. Reach across th=
e transmission and operate the lever manually (the one you put the 3/16=E2=80=
=9D drill into when you adjust the solenoid). If the overdrive kicks in, you=
 have a solenoid or solenoid adjustment problem. The overdrives O.K. Better s=
till have a passenger operate the lever, so that you can concentrate on your=
 driving. And watch out for that spinning prop shaft. Loose clothing not all=
owed.</span>
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lor: #333333;">
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lor: #333333;">
   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">By the way, if y=
ou have a functioning ammeter and the solenoid is connected on its load side=
, you can observe the operation of the solenoid on the meter. &nbsp;</span>
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    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'C=
alibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Before you do anything else, do a loa=
d test on the battery. Even if it is producing 12 volts it may not be produc=
ing the 20 amps needed to engage the OD. </span></p>=20
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'C=
alibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Bob</span></p>=20
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      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-=
family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">From:</span></strong><span style=3D"font-siz=
e: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';"> Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-b=
[email-masked]] <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Art McEwen<br><strong>S=
ent:</strong> Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:24 AM<br><strong>To:</strong> DAVID=
 MASSEY<br><strong>Cc:</strong> [email-masked]<br><strong>Subject:<=
/strong> Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate</span></p>=20
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     <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Nothing went sproing when I took the plate off a=
nd I think I=E2=80=99ve got the leak sealed but no amount of solenoid adjust=
ment will engage the overdrive. &nbsp;:(. The springs weren=E2=80=99t remove=
d and I presume they=E2=80=99re still seated where they were.</p>=20
    </div>=20
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     <p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=20
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     <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99m wondering if some of the sludge in t=
he bottom of the case that I tried to remove got relocated to a valve body s=
omewhere. &nbsp;Thinking of taking it for a road test then changing fluid ag=
ain.</p>=20
    </div>=20
    <div>=20
     <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br><br></p>=20
     <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;">On Jul 15, 2021=
, at 1:54 PM, Art McEwen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">artwmce=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</p>=20
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lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</=
p>=20
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          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Arial','sans-s=
erif'; color: black;">Nothing will go sproing but you will likely loose your=
 solenoid adjustment.&nbsp; Not a big deal as adjusting is pretty simple.</s=
pan></p>=20
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erif'; color: black;">&nbsp;</span></p>=20
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ve </span></p>=20
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---Original Message-----<br>From: Art McEwen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:artwmcewe=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
<br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"=
noopener">[email-masked]</a><br>Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 9:48 am<br>=
Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate</span></p>=20
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             <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-f=
amily: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black;">It's weeping oil (even more than=
 "acceptable"), can I loosen the 4 screws to add gasket goop without misalig=
ning the plunger/spring thingy behind it or is it safe to remove entirely wh=
ile in place without something going "sprong"?</span></p>=20
            </div>=20
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amily: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black;">&nbsp;</span></p>=20
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amily: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black;">Thanks,</span></p>=20
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it's a ~20 amp to engage, then when the core bottoms out it switches to 
a 5-8 amp holding coil to keep it in place.

ptegler

On 7/17/2021 9:24 PM, Art McEwen wrote:
> There’s nothing wrong with the solenoid.  It operates just fine.
>
> I removed and replaced the solenoid plate to deal with a leak and now 
> the solenoid doesn’t engage the o/d anymore while the car is running 
> on jacks.   I was hoping to avoid a half assembled road test.
>
>> A pressure test with a gauge from Jay Holekamp is a great idea. While 
>> your waiting for its arrival, loosen the clamping bolt and take the 
>> car for a ride. Reach across the transmission and operate the lever 
>> manually (the one you put the 3/16” drill into when you adjust the 
>> solenoid). If the overdrive kicks in, you have a solenoid or solenoid 
>> adjustment problem. The overdrives O.K. Better still have a passenger 
>> operate the lever, so that you can concentrate on your driving. And 
>> watch out for that spinning prop shaft. Loose clothing not allowed.
>> By the way, if you have a functioning ammeter and the solenoid is 
>> connected on its load side, you can observe the operation of the 
>> solenoid on the meter.
>> Ed Woods
>>> Before you do anything else, do a load test on the battery. Even if 
>>> it is producing 12 volts it may not be producing the 20 amps needed 
>>> to engage the OD.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> *From:*Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf 
>>> Of *Art McEwen
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:24 AM
>>> *To:* DAVID MASSEY
>>> *Cc:* [email-masked]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate
>>>
>>> Nothing went sproing when I took the plate off and I think I’ve got 
>>> the leak sealed but no amount of solenoid adjustment will engage the 
>>> overdrive.  :(. The springs weren’t removed and I presume they’re 
>>> I’m wondering if some of the sludge in the bottom of the case that I 
>>> tried to remove got relocated to a valve body somewhere.  Thinking 
>>> of taking it for a road test then changing fluid again.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 15, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Art McEwen <[email-masked] 
>>>
>>>     Thanks!
>>>
>>>     Art
>>>
>>>     On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11:25 AM DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]
>>>
>>>         Nothing will go sproing but you will likely loose your
>>>         solenoid adjustment.  Not a big deal as adjusting is pretty
>>>         simple.
>>>
>>>         Dave
>>>
>>>         From: Art McEwen <[email-masked]
>>>         It's weeping oil (even more than "acceptable"), can I loosen
>>>         the 4 screws to add gasket goop without misaligning the
>>>         plunger/spring thingy behind it or is it safe to remove
>>>         entirely while in place without something going "sprong"?
>>>
>>>         Thanks,
>>>
>>>         Art
>>>
>>>         TS64???LO
>>>
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    <p>it's a ~20 amp to engage, then when the core bottoms out it
      switches to a 5-8 amp holding coil to keep it in place.</p>
    <p>ptegler<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/17/2021 9:24 PM, Art McEwen wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:[email-masked]">
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      <div dir="ltr">There’s nothing wrong with the solenoid.  It
        operates just fine.</div>
      <div dir="ltr"><br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">I removed and replaced the solenoid plate to deal
        with a leak and now the solenoid doesn’t engage the o/d anymore
        while the car is running on jacks.   I was hoping to avoid a
        half assembled road test.</div>
      <div dir="ltr"><br>
        <blockquote type="cite">On Jul 17, 2021, at 9:18 PM, EDWARD
          WOODS <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> wrote:<br>
          <br>
        </blockquote>
      </div>
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          <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
            helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;"> <span
              style="font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">A
              pressure test with a gauge from Jay Holekamp is a great
              idea. While your waiting for its arrival, loosen the
              clamping bolt and take the car for a ride. Reach across
              the transmission and operate the lever manually (the one
              you put the 3/16” drill into when you adjust the
              solenoid). If the overdrive kicks in, you have a solenoid
              or solenoid adjustment problem. The overdrives O.K. Better
              still have a passenger operate the lever, so that you can
              concentrate on your driving. And watch out for that
              spinning prop shaft. Loose clothing not allowed.</span> </div>
          <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
            helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;">   </div>
          <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
            helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;"> <span
              style="font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">By the
              way, if you have a functioning ammeter and the solenoid is
              connected on its load side, you can observe the operation
              of the solenoid on the meter.  </span> </div>
          <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
            helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;">   </div>
          <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
            helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;"> <span
              style="font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Ed Woods</span>
          </div>
          <blockquote type="cite">
            <div> On 07/17/2021 3:35 PM Kinderlehrer
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> wrote: </div>
            <div>   </div>
            <div>   </div>
            <div class="WordSection1">
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;
                  font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Before
                  you do anything else, do a load test on the battery.
                  Even if it is producing 12 volts it may not be
                  producing the 20 amps needed to engage the OD. </span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;
                  font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Bob</span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;
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              <div>
                <div style="border: none; border-top: solid #B5C4DF
                  1.0pt; padding: 30pt 0in 0in 0in;">
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size:
                        10.0pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">From:</span></strong><span
                      style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family:
                      'Tahoma','sans-serif';"> Triumphs
                      [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] <strong>On
                        Behalf Of </strong>Art McEwen<br>
                      <strong>Sent:</strong> Saturday, July 17, 2021
                      11:24 AM<br>
                      <strong>To:</strong> DAVID MASSEY<br>
                      <strong>Cc:</strong> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>
                      <strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [TR] TR3 O/D
                      Solenoid plate</span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal">Nothing went sproing when I took
                  the plate off and I think I’ve got the leak sealed but
                  no amount of solenoid adjustment will engage the
                  overdrive.  :(. The springs weren’t removed and I
                  presume they’re still seated where they were.</p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal">I’m wondering if some of the sludge
                  in the bottom of the case that I tried to remove got
                  relocated to a valve body somewhere.  Thinking of
                  taking it for a road test then changing fluid again.</p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                  <br>
                </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;">On
                  Jul 15, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Art McEwen &lt;<a
                    href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                  wrote:</p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;">Thanks!</p>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">Art</p>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                  <div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11:25
                        AM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a
                          href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                        wrote:</p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
                              'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black;">Nothing
                              will go sproing but you will likely loose
                              your solenoid adjustment.  Not a big deal
                              as adjusting is pretty simple.</span></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
                              'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black;"> </span></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:
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                              black;">Dave </span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
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                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:
                            12.0pt;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;
                              font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color:
                              black;">-----Original Message-----<br>
                              From: Art McEwen &lt;<a
                                href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                                target="_blank" rel="noopener"
                                moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
                              To: <a
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                                target="_blank" rel="noopener"
                                moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a><br>
                              Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 9:48 am<br>
                              Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate</span></p>
                          <div id="m_-568949139145977063yiv2214504240">
                            <div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                    style="font-size: 10.0pt;
                                    font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';
                                    color: black;">It's weeping oil
                                    (even more than "acceptable"), can I
                                    loosen the 4 screws to add gasket
                                    goop without misaligning the
                                    plunger/spring thingy behind it or
                                    is it safe to remove entirely while
                                    in place without something going
                                    "sprong"?</span></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                    style="font-size: 10.0pt;
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                    style="font-size: 10.0pt;
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put it third or fourth to get some speed (IE: pressure built up) to that 
output shaft spinning the eccentric pump lobe.

A 200-300 rpm is barely enough to maintain proper pressure.

ptegler

On 7/17/2021 3:44 PM, Art McEwen wrote:
> Hi Bob, solenoid itself is operating fine but o/d is not engaging 
> (running in 2nd gear on jacks).  Pretty sure it’s not the adjustment 
> as I’ve lined it up with the hole on the far side (and a little either 
> side).  Won’t engage when operated by hand either.
>
>> tried to remove got relocated to a valve body somewhere.  Thinking of 
>> taking it for a road test then changing fluid again.
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11:25 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cscom
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    <p>put it third or fourth to get some speed (IE: pressure built up)
      to that output shaft spinning the eccentric pump lobe.</p>
    <p>A 200-300 rpm is barely enough to maintain proper pressure.<br>
    </p>
    <p>ptegler<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/17/2021 3:44 PM, Art McEwen wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi Bob, solenoid itself is operating fine but o/d
        is not engaging (running in 2nd gear on jacks).  Pretty sure
        it’s not the adjustment as I’ve lined it up with the hole on the
        far side (and a little either side).  Won’t engage when operated
        by hand either.</div>
      <div dir="ltr"><br>
        <blockquote type="cite">On Jul 17, 2021, at 3:35 PM,
          Kinderlehrer <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> wrote:<br>
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                you do anything else, do a load test on the battery.
                Even if it is producing 12 volts it may not be producing
                the 20 amps needed to engage the OD. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    Triumphs [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] <b>On
                      Behalf Of </b>Art McEwen<br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:24 AM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> DAVID MASSEY<br>
                    <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Nothing went sproing when I took the
                plate off and I think I’ve got the leak sealed but no
                amount of solenoid adjustment will engage the overdrive.
                 :(. The springs weren’t removed and I presume they’re
                still seated where they were.<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">I’m wondering if some of the sludge
                in the bottom of the case that I tried to remove got
                relocated to a valve body somewhere.  Thinking of taking
                it for a road test then changing fluid again.<o:p></o:p></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                <br>
                <o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Jul
                15, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Art McEwen &lt;<a
                  href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
            </div>
            <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                    style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"></span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">Art<o:p></o:p></p>
                  </div>
                </div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
                <div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11:25 AM
                      DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a
                        href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">dave1massey@cscom</a>&gt;
                      wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                  </div>
                  <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid
                    #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in
                    6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
                    <div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                            style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Nothing
                            will go sproing but you will likely loose
                            your solenoid adjustment.  Not a big deal as
                            adjusting is pretty simple.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                            style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Dave
                          </span><span
                            style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                            style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                            style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">-----Original
                            Message-----<br>
                            From: Art McEwen &lt;<a
                              href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
                            To: <a
                              href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a><br>
                            Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 9:48 am<br>
                            Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                        <div id="m_-568949139145977063yiv2214504240">
                          <div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">It's
                                  weeping oil (even more than
                                  "acceptable"), can I loosen the 4
                                  screws to add gasket goop without
                                  misaligning the plunger/spring thingy
                                  behind it or is it safe to remove
                                  entirely while in place without
                                  something going "sprong"?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Art
                                  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">TS64???LO
                                  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">**
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                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>
                            **<br>
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Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 12:31:21 +0000 (UTC)

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 That reminds me, using the 3/16 drill bit technique (as detailed in the re=
pair manual) to adjust the solenoid may or may not work.=C2=A0 Due to wear =
and manufacturing tolerances it is not uncommon that the adjustment needs t=
o be deeper than what this method provides.=C2=A0 I found that I needed to =
go about 1/10th inch (2mm) beyond that to get reliable operation.
I don't remember if this works with the engine not running but if you manua=
lly operate the lever you can feel where it engages the valve.=C2=A0 If you=
 see the holes line up before or at this point in the range of movement the=
n you will need to set the solenoid where it will pull the lever even furth=
er.
=20
Dave=20

=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: EDWARD WOODS <[email-masked]>
To: Kinderlehrer <[email-masked]>; Art McEwen <[email-masked]=
om>; DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Sent: Sat, Jul 17, 2021 8:18 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate

  A pressure test with a gauge from Jay Holekamp is a great idea. While you=
r waiting for its arrival, loosen the clamping bolt and take the car for a =
ride. Reach across the transmission and operate the lever manually (the one=
 you put the 3/16=E2=80=9D drill into when you adjust the solenoid). If the=
 overdrive kicks in, you have a solenoid or solenoid adjustment problem. Th=
e overdrives O.K. Better still have a passenger operate the lever, so that =
you can concentrate on your driving. And watch out for that spinning prop s=
haft. Loose clothing not allowed.   =C2=A0   By the way, if you have a func=
tioning ammeter and the solenoid is connected on its load side, you can obs=
erve the operation of the solenoid on the meter. =C2=A0   =C2=A0   Ed Woods=
 =20
  On 07/17/2021 3:35 PM Kinderlehrer <[email-masked]> wrote:   =
=C2=A0   =C2=A0   Before you do anything else, do a load test on the batter=
y. Even if it is producing 12 volts it may not be producing the 20 amps nee=
ded to engage the OD.  Bob =C2=A0   From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces=
@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Art McEwen
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:24 AM
To: DAVID MASSEY
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate   =C2=A0  Nothing went sproing whe=
n I took the plate off and I think I=E2=80=99ve got the leak sealed but no =
amount of solenoid adjustment will engage the overdrive. =C2=A0:(. The spri=
ngs weren=E2=80=99t removed and I presume they=E2=80=99re still seated wher=
e they were.   =C2=A0   I=E2=80=99m wondering if some of the sludge in the =
bottom of the case that I tried to remove got relocated to a valve body som=
ewhere. =C2=A0Thinking of taking it for a road test then changing fluid aga=
in.  =20

 On Jul 15, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Art McEwen <[email-masked]> wrote: =20
  =C2=A0  Thanks!  Art   =C2=A0   On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11:25 AM DAVID MASS=
EY <[email-masked]> wrote: =20
   Nothing will go sproing but you will likely loose your solenoid adjustme=
nt.=C2=A0 Not a big deal as adjusting is pretty simple.   =C2=A0   Dave    =
=C2=A0   =C2=A0   -----Original Message-----
From: Art McEwen <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 9:48 am
Subject: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate    It's weeping oil (even more than "a=
cceptable"), can I loosen the 4 screws to add gasket goop without misaligni=
ng the plunger/spring thingy behind it or is it safe to remove entirely whi=
le in place without something going "sprong"?   =C2=A0   Thanks,   =C2=A0  =
 Art    TS64???LO     ** [email-masked] **

[email-masked]  =20
  =20
  ** [email-masked] **=20
=20
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<div style=3D"color:black;font: 12pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<div> <font size=3D"3">That reminds me, using the 3/16 drill bit technique =
(as detailed in the repair manual) to adjust the solenoid may or may not wo=
rk.&nbsp; Due to wear and manufacturing tolerances it is not uncommon that =
the adjustment needs to be deeper than what this method provides.&nbsp; I f=
ound that I needed to go about 1/10th inch (2mm) beyond that to get reliabl=
e operation.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">I don't remember if this works with the engine not ru=
nning but if you manually operate the lever you can feel where it engages t=
he valve.&nbsp; If you see the holes line up before or at this point in the=
 range of movement then you will need to set the solenoid where it will pul=
l the lever even further.</font><br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black"><font=
 size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: EDWARD WOODS &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: Kinderlehrer &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; Art McEwen &lt;artwmcewe=
[email-masked]&gt;; DAVID MASSEY &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: [email-masked]<br>
Sent: Sat, Jul 17, 2021 8:18 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate<br>
<br>

<div id=3D"yiv1647432192">
<div>
 =20
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:#333333;">
   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt;">A pressure test wi=
th a gauge from Jay Holekamp is a great idea. While your waiting for its ar=
rival, loosen the clamping bolt and take the car for a ride. Reach across t=
he transmission and operate the lever manually (the one you put the 3/16=E2=
=80=9D drill into when you adjust the solenoid). If the overdrive kicks in,=
 you have a solenoid or solenoid adjustment problem. The overdrives O.K. Be=
tter still have a passenger operate the lever, so that you can concentrate =
on your driving. And watch out for that spinning prop shaft. Loose clothing=
 not allowed.</span>
  </div>
=20
 =20
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:#333333;">
   &nbsp;
  </div>
=20
 =20
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:#333333;">
   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt;">By the way, if you=
 have a functioning ammeter and the solenoid is connected on its load side,=
 you can observe the operation of the solenoid on the meter. &nbsp;</span>
  </div>
=20
 =20
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:#333333;">
   &nbsp;
  </div>
=20
 =20
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:#333333;">
   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt;">Ed Woods</span>
  </div>
=20
  <blockquote type=3D"cite">=20
  =20
<div>
    On 07/17/2021 3:35 PM Kinderlehrer &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wro=
te:
   </div>
=20
  =20
<div>
    &nbsp;
   </div>
=20
  =20
<div>
    &nbsp;
   </div>
=20
  =20
<div class=3D"yiv1647432192WordSection1">=20
   =20
<div class=3D"yiv1647432192MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-=
family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;">Before you do anything else,=
 do a load test on the battery. Even if it is producing 12 volts it may not=
 be producing the 20 amps needed to engage the OD. </span></div>
=20
   =20
<div class=3D"yiv1647432192MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-=
family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;">Bob</span></div>
=20
   =20
<div class=3D"yiv1647432192MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-=
family:'Calibri', 'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;">&nbsp;</span></div>
=20
   =20
<div>=20
    =20
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in;">=20
     =20
<div class=3D"yiv1647432192MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:'Tahoma', 'sans-serif';">From:</span></strong><span style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Tahoma', 'sans-serif';"> Triumphs [mailto:tr=
[email-masked]] <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Art McEwen<br =
clear=3D"none"><strong>Sent:</strong> Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:24 AM<br c=
lear=3D"none"><strong>To:</strong> DAVID MASSEY<br clear=3D"none"><strong>C=
c:</strong> [email-masked]<br clear=3D"none"><strong>Subject:</str=
ong> Re: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate</span></div>
=20
     </div>
=20
    </div>
=20
   =20
<div class=3D"yiv1647432192MsoNormal">&nbsp;</div>
=20
   =20
<div>=20
    =20
<div class=3D"yiv1647432192MsoNormal">Nothing went sproing when I took the =
plate off and I think I=E2=80=99ve got the leak sealed but no amount of sol=
enoid adjustment will engage the overdrive. &nbsp;:(. The springs weren=E2=
=80=99t removed and I presume they=E2=80=99re still seated where they were.=
</div>
=20
    </div>
=20
   =20
<div>=20
    =20
<div class=3D"yiv1647432192MsoNormal">&nbsp;</div>
=20
    </div>
=20
   =20
<div>=20
    =20
<div class=3D"yiv1647432192MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99m wondering if some of the =
sludge in the bottom of the case that I tried to remove got relocated to a =
valve body somewhere. &nbsp;Thinking of taking it for a road test then chan=
ging fluid again.</div>
=20
    </div>
=20
   =20
<div>=20
    =20
<div class=3D"yiv1647432192MsoNormal"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"=
></div>
=20
    =20
<div class=3D"yiv1647432192MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;">On Ju=
l 15, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Art McEwen &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferr=
er" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank=
" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<=
/div>
=20
    </div>
=20
    <blockquote>=20
    =20
<div>=20
     =20
<div class=3D"yiv1647432192MsoNormal">&nbsp;</div>
=20
     =20
<div>=20
      =20
<div class=3D"yiv1647432192MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;">Thank=
s!</div>
=20
      =20
<div>=20
       =20
<div class=3D"yiv1647432192MsoNormal">Art</div>
=20
       </div>
=20
      </div>
=20
     =20
<div class=3D"yiv1647432192MsoNormal">&nbsp;</div>
=20
     =20
<div>=20
      =20
<div>=20
       =20
<div class=3D"yiv1647432192MsoNormal">On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 11:25 AM DAVID =
MASSEY &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:dave1massey=
@cs.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
=20
       </div>
=20
       <blockquote>=20
       =20
<div>=20
        =20
<div>=20
         =20
<div class=3D"yiv1647432192MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:'Arial', '=
sans-serif';color:black;">Nothing will go sproing but you will likely loose=
 your solenoid adjustment.&nbsp; Not a big deal as adjusting is pretty simp=
le.</span></div>
=20
         </div>
=20
        =20
<div>=20
         =20
<div class=3D"yiv1647432192MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:'Arial', '=
sans-serif';color:black;">&nbsp;</span></div>
=20
         </div>
=20
        =20
<div>=20
         =20
<div class=3D"yiv1647432192MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:'Arial', 'sans-serif';color:black;">=
Dave </span></div>
=20
         </div>
=20
        =20
<div>=20
         =20
<div class=3D"yiv1647432192MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:'Arial', '=
sans-serif';color:black;">&nbsp;</span></div>
=20
         </div>
=20
        =20
<div>=20
         =20
<div class=3D"yiv1647432192MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:'Arial', '=
sans-serif';color:black;">&nbsp;</span></div>
=20
         </div>
=20
        =20
<div>=20
         =20
<div class=3D"yiv1647432192MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:'Arial', 'sans-serif';color:black;">=
-----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">From: Art McEwen &lt;<a rel=3D=
"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:artwmcewen@=
gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">artwmcewe=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">To: <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noref=
errer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"=
_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
<br clear=3D"none">Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 9:48 am<br clear=3D"none">Subjec=
t: [TR] TR3 O/D Solenoid plate</span></div>
=20
         =20
<div id=3D"yiv1647432192m_-568949139145977063yiv2214504240">=20
          =20
<div>=20
           =20
<div>=20
            =20
<div class=3D"yiv1647432192MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:'Arial', 'sans-serif';color:black;">It's weeping oil (even more than=
 "acceptable"), can I loosen the 4 screws to add gasket goop without misali=
gning the plunger/spring thingy behind it or is it safe to remove entirely =
while in place without something going "sprong"?</span></div>
=20
            </div>
=20
           =20
<div>=20
            =20
<div class=3D"yiv1647432192MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:'Arial', 'sans-serif';color:black;">&nbsp;</span></div>
=20
            </div>
=20
           =20
<div>=20
            =20
<div class=3D"yiv1647432192MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:'Arial', 'sans-serif';color:black;">Thanks,</span></div>
=20
            </div>
=20
           =20
<div>=20
            =20
<div class=3D"yiv1647432192MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:'Arial', 'sans-serif';color:black;">&nbsp;</span></div>
=20
            </div>
=20
           =20
<div>=20
            =20
<div class=3D"yiv1647432192MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:'Arial', 'sans-serif';color:black;">Art </span></div>
=20
            </div>
=20
           =20
<div>=20
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