Subject: Re: [TR] New TR3A owner

From: James Henningsen <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 19:50:41 -0400

Yes.  I’m going to pull a spark plug and test for spark against the block tomorrow.  I know enough to get me in trouble which is why I do appreciate this list   Jim 

> On Apr 15, 2021, at 7:38 PM, Greg Gelhar <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> When you sprayed fluid into the carbs, had you lifted the slides to open the
> fuel/ air passages?
> 
> Greg G
> Osseo, MN
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Jim Henningsen
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:20 PM
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: [TR] New TR3A owner
> 
> List:
> I successfully convinced my neighbor to buy a new to him 1958 TR3A.  Great
> to have a new first time TR owner, especially here in Ocala, FL.  Car
> arrived today and of course it crapped out on him after 10 miles. Luckily
> right in front of his house.  We got the car back into his garage before the
> rain came.  Car cranks over fine just won't run.  It literally just died on
> him at a stop sign after the ten mile drive.  12.2 volts at the battery, but
> 11.4 on the coil with ignition on.  Positive ground car.  Is 11.4 normal at
> the coil to start or is it losing voltage from ignition switch to coil.
> White wires from ignition switch look nice and tight.  With ignition switch
> on,  it also has 11.4 volts at white wires on second fuse on the fuse box.  
> 
> Just wanted to confirm 11.4 seems ok to start this puppy before I dig into
> points, condenser, rotor, cap and wires.  I don't think it is fuel as I
> sprayed starter fluid in the carbs and still nothing.  
> 
> Thanks,
> Jim "I need spark" Henningsen
> Ocala FL
> 
> 
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From: bill beecher <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 20:31:56 -0500

How long had the car been sitting?  Might consider debris in the fuel line. 
Bill

#dontkillgrandma

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2021 08:07:03 -0400

The first time our first TR3 died, I was out with my wife and we were about 2 miles from home.  As we trudged our way home I explained that this was part of the fun of owning a TR.  I'm not sure she was convinced.......

Hopefully your neighbor  isn't too upset.

Really looking forward to being another of your neighbors next winter!

Andrew Uprichard
Jackson, Michigan

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From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of James Henningsen
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 7:51 PM
To: Greg Gelhar <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] New TR3A owner

> When you sprayed fluid into the carbs, had you lifted the slides to 
> open the fuel/ air passages?
> 
> Greg G
> Osseo, MN
> 
> I successfully convinced my neighbor to buy a new to him 1958 TR3A.  
> Great to have a new first time TR owner, especially here in Ocala, FL.  
> Car arrived today and of course it crapped out on him after 10 miles. 
> Luckily right in front of his house.  We got the car back into his 
> garage before the rain came.  Car cranks over fine just won't run.  It 
> literally just died on him at a stop sign after the ten mile drive.  
> 12.2 volts at the battery, but
> 11.4 on the coil with ignition on.  Positive ground car.  Is 11.4 
> normal at the coil to start or is it losing voltage from ignition switch to coil.
> White wires from ignition switch look nice and tight.  With ignition 
> switch on,  it also has 11.4 volts at white wires on second fuse on the fuse box.
> 
> Just wanted to confirm 11.4 seems ok to start this puppy before I dig 
> into points, condenser, rotor, cap and wires.  I don't think it is 
> fuel as I sprayed starter fluid in the carbs and still nothing.
> 
> Thanks,

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2021 12:36:58 +0000 (UTC)

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 The one time I had to tow the car home was because the DPO installed the f=
uel level sender without a gasket but used RTV instead.=C2=A0 RTV is NOT ga=
soline tolerant.=C2=A0 I globule that exuded inside the take swelled up and=
 dropped off and plugged the fuel line.=C2=A0 This convenient short cut by =
the DPO cost me several hours and quite a few dollars resulting in pulling =
the tank and having it cleaned a lined.
The only other running issue I had was a loose rivet on the coil terminal.
The usual diagnostic procedures are in order.=C2=A0 1) verify spark.=C2=A0 =
2) verify fuel.=C2=A0 Note that 12.2 volts is a bit low and 11.4 is a bit l=
ow but it should be sufficient to run the engine.=C2=A0 What voltage do you=
 measure whilst cranking?=C2=A0 If it stays up above 8 - 9 volts you'll be =
fine.
=20
Dave=20

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From: [email-masked]
To: 'James Henningsen' <[email-masked]>; 'Greg Gelhar' <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Sent: Fri, Apr 16, 2021 7:07 am
Subject: Re: [TR] New TR3A owner

The first time our first TR3 died, I was out with my wife and we were about=
 2 miles from home.=C2=A0 As we trudged our way home I explained that this =
was part of the fun of owning a TR.=C2=A0 I'm not sure she was convinced...=
....

Hopefully your neighbor=C2=A0 isn't too upset.

Andrew Uprichard
Jackson, Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of James Henning=
sen

Yes.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m going to pull a spark plug and test for spark agains=
t the block tomorrow.=C2=A0 I know enough to get me in trouble which is why=
 I do appreciate this list=C2=A0 Jim=20

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 to=20
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> From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Jim=20
> Henningsen
>=20
> I successfully convinced my neighbor to buy a new to him 1958 TR3A.=C2=A0=
=20
> Great to have a new first time TR owner, especially here in Ocala, FL.=C2=
=A0=20
> Car arrived today and of course it crapped out on him after 10 miles.=20
> Luckily right in front of his house.=C2=A0 We got the car back into his=
=20
> garage before the rain came.=C2=A0 Car cranks over fine just won't run.=
=C2=A0 It=20
> literally just died on him at a stop sign after the ten mile drive.=C2=A0=
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> 11.4 on the coil with ignition on.=C2=A0 Positive ground car.=C2=A0 Is 11=
.4=20
> normal at the coil to start or is it losing voltage from ignition switch =
to coil.
> White wires from ignition switch look nice and tight.=C2=A0 With ignition=
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> switch on,=C2=A0 it also has 11.4 volts at white wires on second fuse on =
the fuse box.
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> Just wanted to confirm 11.4 seems ok to start this puppy before I dig=20
> into points, condenser, rotor, cap and wires.=C2=A0 I don't think it is=
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<div> <font size=3D"3">The one time I had to tow the car home was because t=
he DPO installed the fuel level sender without a gasket but used RTV instea=
d.&nbsp; RTV is NOT gasoline tolerant.&nbsp; I globule that exuded inside t=
he take swelled up and dropped off and plugged the fuel line.&nbsp; This co=
nvenient short cut by the DPO cost me several hours and quite a few dollars=
 resulting in pulling the tank and having it cleaned a lined.</font></div>

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<div><font size=3D"3">The only other running issue I had was a loose rivet =
on the coil terminal.</font></div>

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<div><font size=3D"3">The usual diagnostic procedures are in order.&nbsp; 1=
) verify spark.&nbsp; 2) verify fuel.&nbsp; Note that 12.2 volts is a bit l=
ow and 11.4 is a bit low but it should be sufficient to run the engine.&nbs=
p; What voltage do you measure whilst cranking?&nbsp; If it stays up above =
8 - 9 volts you'll be fine.</font><br>
</div>

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To: 'James Henningsen' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; 'Greg Gelhar' &lt;greg@ge=
lhar.com&gt;<br>
Cc: [email-masked]<br>
Sent: Fri, Apr 16, 2021 7:07 am<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] New TR3A owner<br>
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and we were about 2 miles from home.&nbsp; As we trudged our way home I exp=
lained that this was part of the fun of owning a TR.&nbsp; I'm not sure she=
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eighbor&nbsp; isn't too upset.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Really =
looking forward to being another of your neighbors next winter!<br clear=3D=
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e: [TR] New TR3A owner<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Yes.&nbsp; I=E2=
=80=99m going to pull a spark plug and test for spark against the block tom=
orrow.&nbsp; I know enough to get me in trouble which is why I do appreciat=
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fluid into the carbs, had you lifted the slides to <br clear=3D"none">&gt; =
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=3D"none">&gt; -----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">&gt; From: Triu=
mphs &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
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one">&gt; List:<br clear=3D"none">&gt; I successfully convinced my neighbor=
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 a new first time TR owner, especially here in Ocala, FL.&nbsp; <br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; Car arrived today and of course it crapped out on him after =
10 miles. <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Luckily right in front of his house.&nbsp=
; We got the car back into his <br clear=3D"none">&gt; garage before the ra=
in came.&nbsp; Car cranks over fine just won't run.&nbsp; It <br clear=3D"n=
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Thanks all for your suggestions.  Trying to help a friend while doing my =
work and busyness is a challenge.  I think I need to retire and just =
play with Triumphs.  Will try all recommendations this weekend.  Cheers

Jim Henningsen

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The one time I had to tow the car home was because the DPO installed the =
fuel level sender without a gasket but used RTV instead.  RTV is NOT =
gasoline tolerant.  I globule that exuded inside the take swelled up and =
dropped off and plugged the fuel line.  This convenient short cut by the =
DPO cost me several hours and quite a few dollars resulting in pulling =
the tank and having it cleaned a lined.

=20

The only other running issue I had was a loose rivet on the coil =
terminal.

=20

The usual diagnostic procedures are in order.  1) verify spark.  2) =
verify fuel.  Note that 12.2 volts is a bit low and 11.4 is a bit low =
but it should be sufficient to run the engine.  What voltage do you =
measure whilst cranking?  If it stays up above 8 - 9 volts you'll be =
fine.

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Subject: Re: [TR] New TR3A owner

The first time our first TR3 died, I was out with my wife and we were =
about 2 miles from home.  As we trudged our way home I explained that =
this was part of the fun of owning a TR.  I'm not sure she was =
convinced.......

Andrew Uprichard
Jackson, Michigan

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Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [TR] New TR3A owner

Yes.  I=E2=80=99m going to pull a spark plug and test for spark against =
the block tomorrow.  I know enough to get me in trouble which is why I =
do appreciate this list  Jim=20

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> Great to have a new first time TR owner, especially here in Ocala, FL. =
=20
> Luckily right in front of his house.  We got the car back into his=20
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> White wires from ignition switch look nice and tight.  With ignition=20
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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks all for your =
suggestions.=C2=A0 Trying to help a friend while doing my work and =
busyness is a challenge.=C2=A0 I think I need to retire and just play =
with Triumphs.=C2=A0 Will try all recommendations this weekend.=C2=A0 =
Cheers<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Jim =
Henningsen<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> DAVID MASSEY =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 16, 2021 8:37 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]; [email-masked]; =
[email-masked]<br><b>Cc:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> =
Re: [TR] New TR3A owner<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The=
 one time I had to tow the car home was because the DPO installed the =
fuel level sender without a gasket but used RTV instead.&nbsp; RTV is =
NOT gasoline tolerant.&nbsp; I globule that exuded inside the take =
swelled up and dropped off and plugged the fuel line.&nbsp; This =
convenient short cut by the DPO cost me several hours and quite a few =
dollars resulting in pulling the tank and having it cleaned a =
lined.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The=
 only other running issue I had was a loose rivet on the coil =
terminal.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The=
 usual diagnostic procedures are in order.&nbsp; 1) verify spark.&nbsp; =
2) verify fuel.&nbsp; Note that 12.2 volts is a bit low and 11.4 is a =
bit low but it should be sufficient to run the engine.&nbsp; What =
voltage do you measure whilst cranking?&nbsp; If it stays up above 8 - 9 =
volts you'll be fine.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dav=
e </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>---=
--Original Message-----<br>From: <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>=
To: 'James Henningsen' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; 'Greg =
Gelhar' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Cc: <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>Se=
nt: Fri, Apr 16, 2021 7:07 am<br>Subject: Re: [TR] New TR3A =
owner<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The=
 first time our first TR3 died, I was out with my wife and we were about =
2 miles from home.&nbsp; As we trudged our way home I explained that =
this was part of the fun of owning a TR.&nbsp; I'm not sure she was =
convinced.......<br><br>Hopefully your neighbor&nbsp; isn't too =
upset.<br><br>Really looking forward to being another of your neighbors =
next winter!<br><br>Andrew Uprichard<br>Jackson, =
Michigan<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Triumphs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
am.net</a>&gt; On Behalf Of James Henningsen<br>Sent: Thursday, April =
15, 2021 7:51 PM<br>To: Greg Gelhar &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Cc: <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>Su=
bject: Re: [TR] New TR3A owner<br><br>Yes.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99m going to =
pull a spark plug and test for spark against the block tomorrow.&nbsp; I =
know enough to get me in trouble which is why I do appreciate this =
list&nbsp; Jim <br><br>&gt; On Apr 15, 2021, at 7:38 PM, Greg Gelhar =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>=EF=
=BB=BF</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Whe=
n you sprayed fluid into the carbs, had you lifted the slides to =
<br>&gt; open the fuel/ air passages?<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Greg G<br>&gt; =
Osseo, MN<br>&gt; <br>&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>&gt; From: =
Triumphs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
am.net</a>&gt; On Behalf Of Jim <br>&gt; Henningsen<br>&gt; Sent: =
Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:20 PM<br>&gt; To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>&g=
t; Subject: [TR] New TR3A owner<br>&gt; <br>&gt; List:<br>&gt; I =
successfully convinced my neighbor to buy a new to him 1958 TR3A.&nbsp; =
<br>&gt; Great to have a new first time TR owner, especially here in =
Ocala, FL.&nbsp; <br>&gt; Car arrived today and of course it crapped out =
on him after 10 miles. <br>&gt; Luckily right in front of his =
house.&nbsp; We got the car back into his <br>&gt; garage before the =
rain came.&nbsp; Car cranks over fine just won't run.&nbsp; It <br>&gt; =
literally just died on him at a stop sign after the ten mile =
drive.&nbsp; <br>&gt; 12.2 volts at the battery, but<br>&gt; 11.4 on the =
coil with ignition on.&nbsp; Positive ground car.&nbsp; Is 11.4 <br>&gt; =
normal at the coil to start or is it losing voltage from ignition switch =
to coil.<br>&gt; White wires from ignition switch look nice and =
tight.&nbsp; With ignition <br>&gt; switch on,&nbsp; it also has 11.4 =
volts at white wires on second fuse on the fuse box.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; =
Just wanted to confirm 11.4 seems ok to start this puppy before I dig =
<br>&gt; into points, condenser, rotor, cap and wires.&nbsp; I don't =
think it is <br>&gt; fuel as I sprayed starter fluid in the carbs and =
still nothing.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Thanks,<br>&gt; Jim &quot;I need =
spark&quot; Henningsen<br>&gt; Ocala FL<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; =
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From: Greg Lemon <[email-masked]>
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  "I think I need to retire and just play with Triumphs"

Amen to that

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021, 8:17 AM Jim Henningsen <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Thanks all for your suggestions.  Trying to help a friend while doing my
> work and busyness is a challenge.  I think I need to retire and just play
> with Triumphs.  Will try all recommendations this weekend.  Cheers
>
> Jim Henningsen
>
>
>
> *From:* DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Friday, April 16, 2021 8:37 AM
> *To:* [email-masked]; [email-masked]; [email-masked]
> *Cc:* [email-masked]
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] New TR3A owner
>
>
>
> The one time I had to tow the car home was because the DPO installed the
> fuel level sender without a gasket but used RTV instead.  RTV is NOT
> gasoline tolerant.  I globule that exuded inside the take swelled up and
> dropped off and plugged the fuel line.  This convenient short cut by the
> DPO cost me several hours and quite a few dollars resulting in pulling th=
e
> tank and having it cleaned a lined.
>
>
>
> The only other running issue I had was a loose rivet on the coil terminal=
.
>
>
>
> The usual diagnostic procedures are in order.  1) verify spark.  2) verif=
y
> fuel.  Note that 12.2 volts is a bit low and 11.4 is a bit low but it
> should be sufficient to run the engine.  What voltage do you measure whil=
st
> cranking?  If it stays up above 8 - 9 volts you'll be fine.
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
> To: 'James Henningsen' <[email-masked]>; 'Greg Gelhar' <[email-masked]=
m
> The first time our first TR3 died, I was out with my wife and we were
> about 2 miles from home.  As we trudged our way home I explained that thi=
s
> was part of the fun of owning a TR.  I'm not sure she was convinced......=
.
> Yes.  I=E2=80=99m going to pull a spark plug and test for spark against t=
he block
> tomorrow.  I know enough to get me in trouble which is why I do appreciat=
e
> this list  Jim
> > =EF=BB=BFWhen you sprayed fluid into the carbs, had you lifted the slid=
es to
> > normal at the coil to start or is it losing voltage from ignition switc=
h
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/[email-masked]
>
>
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/[email-masked]
>

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<div dir=3D"auto">=C2=A0 &quot;I think I need to retire and just play with =
Triumphs&quot;<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Amen to that</d=
iv></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_att=
r">On Fri, Apr 16, 2021, 8:17 AM Jim Henningsen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:trguy=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" style=3D"w=
ord-wrap:break-word"><div class=3D"m_-5964240835762380227WordSection1"><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks all for your suggestions.=C2=A0 Trying to help a =
friend while doing my work and busyness is a challenge.=C2=A0 I think I nee=
d to retire and just play with Triumphs.=C2=A0 Will try all recommendations=
 this weekend.=C2=A0 Cheers<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jim Hen=
ningsen<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><di=
v style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in=
 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]=
om</a>&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 16, 2021 8:37 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferr=
er">[email-masked]</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targ=
et=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:g=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a><br=
><b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" re=
l=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Ne=
w TR3A owner<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u>=
</u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">The one time I had to t=
ow the car home was because the DPO installed the fuel level sender without=
 a gasket but used RTV instead.=C2=A0 RTV is NOT gasoline tolerant.=C2=A0 I=
 globule that exuded inside the take swelled up and dropped off and plugged=
 the fuel line.=C2=A0 This convenient short cut by the DPO cost me several =
hours and quite a few dollars resulting in pulling the tank and having it c=
leaned a lined.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;col=
or:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;co=
lor:black">The only other running issue I had was a loose rivet on the coil=
 terminal.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:bl=
ack"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:b=
lack">The usual diagnostic procedures are in order.=C2=A0 1) verify spark.=
=C2=A0 2) verify fuel.=C2=A0 Note that 12.2 volts is a bit low and 11.4 is =
a bit low but it should be sufficient to run the engine.=C2=A0 What voltage=
 do you measure whilst cranking?=C2=A0 If it stays up above 8 - 9 volts you=
&#39;ll be fine.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;co=
lor:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
 style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family=
:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Dave </span><span style=3D"font-=
size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u=
></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<=
u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0=
<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:=
12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-=
serif;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href=3D"mailto:au=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">auprichard@upr=
ichard.net</a><br>To: &#39;James Henningsen&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:trgu=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t;; &#39;Greg Gelhar&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"=
_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Cc: <a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">Triumphs@aut=
ox.team.net</a><br>Sent: Fri, Apr 16, 2021 7:07 am<br>Subject: Re: [TR] New=
 TR3A owner<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">=
The first time our first TR3 died, I was out with my wife and we were about=
 2 miles from home.=C2=A0 As we trudged our way home I explained that this =
was part of the fun of owning a TR.=C2=A0 I&#39;m not sure she was convince=
d.......<br><br>Hopefully your neighbor=C2=A0 isn&#39;t too upset.<br><br>R=
eally looking forward to being another of your neighbors next winter!<br><b=
r>Andrew Uprichard<br>Jackson, Michigan<br><br>-----Original Message-----<b=
r>From: Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; O=
n Behalf Of James Henningsen<br>Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 7:51 PM<br>T=
o: Greg Gelhar &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:Triumphs@a=
utox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]=
</a><br>Subject: Re: [TR] New TR3A owner<br><br>Yes.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m goin=
g to pull a spark plug and test for spark against the block tomorrow.=C2=A0=
 I know enough to get me in trouble which is why I do appreciate this list=
=C2=A0 Jim <br><br>&gt; On Apr 15, 2021, at 7:38 PM, Greg Gelhar &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">greg@gelh=
ar.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">=EF=BB=BF</span><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;col=
or:black">When you sprayed fluid into the carbs, had you lifted the slides =
to <br>&gt; open the fuel/ air passages?<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Greg G<br>&gt; Os=
seo, MN<br>&gt; <br>&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>&gt; From: Triumphs =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" re=
l=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; On Behalf Of Jim <=
br>&gt; Henningsen<br>&gt; Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:20 PM<br>&gt; T=
o: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nore=
ferrer">[email-masked]</a><br>&gt; Subject: [TR] New TR3A owner<br=
>&gt; <br>&gt; List:<br>&gt; I successfully convinced my neighbor to buy a =
new to him 1958 TR3A.=C2=A0 <br>&gt; Great to have a new first time TR owne=
r, especially here in Ocala, FL.=C2=A0 <br>&gt; Car arrived today and of co=
urse it crapped out on him after 10 miles. <br>&gt; Luckily right in front =
of his house.=C2=A0 We got the car back into his <br>&gt; garage before the=
 rain came.=C2=A0 Car cranks over fine just won&#39;t run.=C2=A0 It <br>&gt=
; literally just died on him at a stop sign after the ten mile drive.=C2=A0=
 <br>&gt; 12.2 volts at the battery, but<br>&gt; 11.4 on the coil with igni=
tion on.=C2=A0 Positive ground car.=C2=A0 Is 11.4 <br>&gt; normal at the co=
il to start or is it losing voltage from ignition switch to coil.<br>&gt; W=
hite wires from ignition switch look nice and tight.=C2=A0 With ignition <b=
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Work hard and save. Retire as early as you can. You never know when your 
maker will come for you.

Bob

On 4/16/21 9:25 AM, Greg Lemon wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2021, 8:17 AM Jim Henningsen <[email-masked] 
>
>     Thanks all for your suggestions. Trying to help a friend while
>     doing my work and busyness is a challenge.  I think I need to
>     retire and just play with Triumphs.  Will try all recommendations
>     this weekend.  Cheers
>
>     Jim Henningsen
>
>     The one time I had to tow the car home was because the DPO
>     installed the fuel level sender without a gasket but used RTV
>     instead.  RTV is NOT gasoline tolerant.  I globule that exuded
>     inside the take swelled up and dropped off and plugged the fuel
>     line.  This convenient short cut by the DPO cost me several hours
>     and quite a few dollars resulting in pulling the tank and having
>     it cleaned a lined.
>
>     The usual diagnostic procedures are in order.  1) verify spark. 
>     2) verify fuel.  Note that 12.2 volts is a bit low and 11.4 is a
>     bit low but it should be sufficient to run the engine.  What
>     voltage do you measure whilst cranking?  If it stays up above 8 -
>     9 volts you'll be fine.
>
>     Dave
>
>     To: 'James Henningsen' <[email-masked]
>     The first time our first TR3 died, I was out with my wife and we
>     were about 2 miles from home.  As we trudged our way home I
>     explained that this was part of the fun of owning a TR.  I'm not
>     sure she was convinced.......
>
>     From: Triumphs <[email-masked]
>     Henningsen
>     Yes.  I’m going to pull a spark plug and test for spark against
>     the block tomorrow.  I know enough to get me in trouble which is
>     why I do appreciate this list  Jim
>
>     > On Apr 15, 2021, at 7:38 PM, Greg Gelhar <[email-masked]
>     >
>     > From: Triumphs <[email-masked]
>     > Henningsen
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    <p>Work hard and save. Retire as early as you can. You never know
      when your maker will come for you. <br>
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    <p>Bob<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/16/21 9:25 AM, Greg Lemon wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="auto">  "I think I need to retire and just play with
        Triumphs"
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        <div dir="auto">Amen to that</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 16, 2021, 8:17 AM
          Jim Henningsen &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks all for your suggestions. 
                Trying to help a friend while doing my work and busyness
                is a challenge.  I think I need to retire and just play
                with Triumphs.  Will try all recommendations this
                weekend.  Cheers</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Jim Henningsen</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1
                1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
                <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a
                    href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank"
                    rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                  <br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 16, 2021 8:37 AM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                    target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>;
                  <a href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank"
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                  <a href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank"
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                  <b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
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                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] New TR3A owner</p>
              </div>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">The
                      one time I had to tow the car home was because the
                      DPO installed the fuel level sender without a
                      gasket but used RTV instead.  RTV is NOT gasoline
                      tolerant.  I globule that exuded inside the take
                      swelled up and dropped off and plugged the fuel
                      line.  This convenient short cut by the DPO cost
                      me several hours and quite a few dollars resulting
                      in pulling the tank and having it cleaned a lined.</span></p>
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                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p>
                </div>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">The
                      only other running issue I had was a loose rivet
                      on the coil terminal.</span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p>
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                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">The
                      usual diagnostic procedures are in order.  1)
                      verify spark.  2) verify fuel.  Note that 12.2
                      volts is a bit low and 11.4 is a bit low but it
                      should be sufficient to run the engine.  What
                      voltage do you measure whilst cranking?  If it
                      stays up above 8 - 9 volts you'll be fine.</span></p>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Dave
                    </span><span
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                      Message-----<br>
                      From: <a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
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                        moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a><br>
                      To: 'James Henningsen' &lt;<a
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                        rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;;
                      'Greg Gelhar' &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
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                      Cc: <a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
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                      Sent: Fri, Apr 16, 2021 7:07 am<br>
                      Subject: Re: [TR] New TR3A owner</span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">The
                        first time our first TR3 died, I was out with my
                        wife and we were about 2 miles from home.  As we
                        trudged our way home I explained that this was
                        part of the fun of owning a TR.  I'm not sure
                        she was convinced.......<br>
                        <br>
                        Hopefully your neighbor  isn't too upset.<br>
                        <br>
                        Really looking forward to being another of your
                        neighbors next winter!<br>
                        <br>
                        Andrew Uprichard<br>
                        Jackson, Michigan<br>
                        <br>
                        -----Original Message-----<br>
                        From: Triumphs &lt;<a
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                          moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                        On Behalf Of James Henningsen<br>
                        Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 7:51 PM<br>
                        To: Greg Gelhar &lt;<a
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                          rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
                        Cc: <a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
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                        Subject: Re: [TR] New TR3A owner<br>
                        <br>
                        Yes.  I’m going to pull a spark plug and test
                        for spark against the block tomorrow.  I know
                        enough to get me in trouble which is why I do
                        appreciate this list  Jim <br>
                        <br>
                        &gt; On Apr 15, 2021, at 7:38 PM, Greg Gelhar
                        &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
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                        wrote:<br>
                        &gt; <br>
                        &gt; </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">When
                        you sprayed fluid into the carbs, had you lifted
                        the slides to <br>
                        &gt; open the fuel/ air passages?<br>
                        &gt; <br>
                        &gt; Greg G<br>
                        &gt; Osseo, MN<br>
                        &gt; <br>
                        &gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
                        &gt; From: Triumphs &lt;<a
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                          moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                        On Behalf Of Jim <br>
                        &gt; Henningsen<br>
                        &gt; Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:20 PM<br>
                        &gt; To: <a
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                          target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
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                        &gt; Subject: [TR] New TR3A owner<br>
                        &gt; <br>
                        &gt; List:<br>
                        &gt; I successfully convinced my neighbor to buy
                        a new to him 1958 TR3A.  <br>
                        &gt; Great to have a new first time TR owner,
                        especially here in Ocala, FL.  <br>
                        &gt; Car arrived today and of course it crapped
                        out on him after 10 miles. <br>
                        &gt; Luckily right in front of his house.  We
                        got the car back into his <br>
                        &gt; garage before the rain came.  Car cranks
                        over fine just won't run.  It <br>
                        &gt; literally just died on him at a stop sign
                        after the ten mile drive.  <br>
                        &gt; 12.2 volts at the battery, but<br>
                        &gt; 11.4 on the coil with ignition on. 
                        Positive ground car.  Is 11.4 <br>
                        &gt; normal at the coil to start or is it losing
                        voltage from ignition switch to coil.<br>
                        &gt; White wires from ignition switch look nice
                        and tight.  With ignition <br>
                        &gt; switch on,  it also has 11.4 volts at white
                        wires on second fuse on the fuse box.<br>
                        &gt; <br>
                        &gt; Just wanted to confirm 11.4 seems ok to
                        start this puppy before I dig <br>
                        &gt; into points, condenser, rotor, cap and
                        wires.  I don't think it is <br>
                        &gt; fuel as I sprayed starter fluid in the
                        carbs and still nothing.<br>
                        &gt; <br>
                        &gt; Thanks,<br>
                        &gt; Jim "I need spark" Henningsen<br>
                        &gt; Ocala FL<br>
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