Subject: Re: [TR] Question?

From: Steve Thornton <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2021 20:51:07 +0000

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No need for zinc additive with Valvoline racing oil.  I use the regular =
, non synthetic 20w50 and change out every year.  +1 on the Wix or Napa =
filter.  They and the oil are on amazon.

Jim Henningsen =20

=20

From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Steve =
Thornton
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 4:51 PM
To: Dave Connitt <[email-masked]>
Cc: TR List <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] Question?

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All-

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Thanks everyone for the help. =20

=20

It appears the collective wisdom has led me to select Valvoline VR1 =
Racing Oil, a Wix filter, and carefully measuring 5 quarts of oil and =
adding as the dipstick requires. I feel much more informed about what I =
am doing, thanks to YOU.=20

=20

I suppose with the VR1 oil there is no need to use the TRF zinc =
additive, right?

=20

This post reminds me of all of the people who were so quick to help =
others that we have lost over the years. Fred Thomas quickly comes to =
mind, among others.=20

=20

Many thanks! Once again.=20

=20

=20

Sent from my iPhone=20

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=20

Steven O. Thornton=20

Attorney at Law

Thornton Law Office

1011 Lehman Avenue

Bowling Green, KY. 42103

270-781-6630

=20

On Apr 30, 2021, at 10:26 AM, Dave Connitt <[email-masked] =

=EF=BB=BF I agree with Dave regarding Fram oil filters. I have been =
running the Purolator L20195 filters in my TR4A for a few years now and =
also change the filter and oil each year. =20

Regarding oil, I have been using Brad Penn 20-59 wt. but that is =
strictly my personal preference. Generally speaking, people who own =
these types of cars change their oil and filters often enough that as =
long as you use an oil containing additional zinc you will be fine.

Dave Connitt=20

=E2=80=9867 TR4A=20

DavesTR4A. com

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 30, 2021, at 11:06 AM, dave <[email-masked] =

=EF=BB=BF=20

First of all, don=E2=80=99t use FRAM.  Those filters are very low =
quality and don=E2=80=99t have a drainback valve.

=20

WIX, and NAPA (same filter) are excellent choices.  51516  or 51438.  =
The NAPA number is 1516 or 1438.  Also Purolator L20195 will work. the =
spin on adapter for all TRs, MGA, MGB, etc all use the same filter.

=20

For oil you can get the Valvoline Full Synthetic Racing Oil 20w-50 from =
advance auto; has the zddp you need.  Unfortunately Advance Auto =
doesn=E2=80=99t carry WIX but they do carry the Purolator so you can get =
it all in one order with free shipping.

=20

Valvoline VR1 Racing 20W-50 Full Synthetic Motor Oil, 1 Quart 679082: =
Advance Auto Parts =
<https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/valvoline-vr1-racing-20w-50-full-syn=
thetic-motor-oil-1-quart-679082/10069836-P?searchTerm=3Dvalvoline%2020w50=
%20full%20synthetic>=20

=20

They have dropped the price $2!  Free shipping for orders over $35, =
which is about what you will need.

=20

Here is the filter:  =
https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/web/SearchResults?storeId=3D10151 =
<https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/web/SearchResults?storeId=3D10151&cata=
logId=3D10051&langId=3D-1&searchTerm=3Dpurolater%20L20195> =
&catalogId=3D10051&langId=3D-1&searchTerm=3Dpurolater%20L20195

=20

I have heard people say that you shouldn=E2=80=99t use racing oil or =
synthetic  because blah blah blah.  Been using it for decades in my cars =
and they still run strong oil pressure.  I change the oil and filter =
about once a year.

=20

From: Triumphs <[email-masked] =
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 8:30 AM
To: Steve Thornton <[email-masked] =
Subject: Re: [TR] Question?

=20

For the filter, if it is the same as the TR6 spin on, look up a 1996 =
Ford Mustang V6.  You should get the Fram PH3600 and similar models.  =
This info should let you pick your favorite brand.

Brian K

On 4/29/2021 7:31 PM, Steve Thornton wrote:

 I return. =20

=20

After a long hibernation, I am back in the British car world. I bought a =
1956 Morgan, that sports a TR4 motor. Hopefully, that makes me somewhat =
TR worthy.=20

=20

I am doing some routine maintenance and need your help.=20

=20

1. How many quarts of oil does a TR4 motor hold?=20

=20

2. I installed the spin on filter adaptor. What is the best filter most =
people use? I bought the TRF version, but it seems there is a better =
version as I recall.=20

=20

3. Is the oil weight used still 20-50, with the zinc additive from TRF?

=20

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Sent from my iPhone=20

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Steven O. Thornton=20

Attorney at Law

Thornton Law Office

1011 Lehman Avenue

Bowling Green, KY. 42103

270-781-6630

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vlink=3Dpurple style=3D'word-wrap:break-word'><div =
class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>No need for zinc additive with =
Valvoline racing oil.=C2=A0 I use the regular , non synthetic 20w50 and =
change out every year.=C2=A0 +1 on the Wix or Napa filter.=C2=A0 They =
and the oil are on amazon.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Jim =
Henningsen=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Steve =
Thornton<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 30, 2021 4:51 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
Dave Connitt &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> TR List =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] =
Question?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>All-<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks =
everyone for the help.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>It appears the collective wisdom has led me to select =
Valvoline VR1 Racing Oil, a Wix filter, and carefully measuring 5 quarts =
of oil and adding as the dipstick requires. I feel much more informed =
about what I am doing, thanks to YOU.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
suppose with the VR1 oil there is no need to use the TRF zinc additive, =
right?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>This post reminds me of all of the people who were so =
quick to help others that we have lost over the years. Fred Thomas =
quickly comes to mind, among others.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Many thanks! Once =
again.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Steven O. Thornton&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Attorney at Law<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Thornton Law Office<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>1011 Lehman Avenue<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Bowling Green, KY.&nbsp;<span =
style=3D'font-size:13.0pt'>42103</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.0pt'>270-781-6630</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Apr 30, 2021, at 10:26 AM, Dave =
Connitt &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=EF=BB=BF I agree with Dave regarding Fram oil =
filters. I have been running the Purolator L20195 filters in my TR4A for =
a few years now and also change the filter and oil each year.&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Regarding oil, I have been =
using Brad Penn 20-59 wt. but that is strictly my personal preference. =
Generally speaking, people who own these types of cars change their oil =
and filters often enough that as long as you use an oil containing =
additional zinc you will be fine.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Dave Connitt&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=E2=80=9867 TR4A&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>DavesTR4A. =
com<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my =
iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Apr 30, 2021, at 11:06 AM, dave &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=EF=BB=BF <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>First of =
all, don=E2=80=99t use FRAM.&nbsp; Those filters are very low quality =
and don=E2=80=99t have a drainback valve.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>WIX, and =
NAPA (same filter) are excellent choices. &nbsp;51516 &nbsp;or =
51438.&nbsp; The NAPA number is 1516 or 1438.&nbsp; Also Purolator =
L20195 will work. the spin on adapter for all TRs, MGA, MGB, etc all use =
the same filter.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>For oil you =
can get the Valvoline Full Synthetic Racing Oil 20w-50 from advance =
auto; has the zddp you need.&nbsp; Unfortunately Advance Auto =
doesn=E2=80=99t carry WIX but they do carry the Purolator so you can get =
it all in one order with free shipping.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/valvoline-vr1-racing-20w-50-f=
ull-synthetic-motor-oil-1-quart-679082/10069836-P?searchTerm=3Dvalvoline%=
2020w50%20full%20synthetic">Valvoline VR1 Racing 20W-50 Full Synthetic =
Motor Oil, 1 Quart 679082: Advance Auto Parts</a><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>They have =
dropped the price $2!&nbsp; Free shipping for orders over $35, which is =
about what you will need.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Here is the =
filter:&nbsp; <a =
href=3D"https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/web/SearchResults?storeId=3D101=
51&amp;catalogId=3D10051&amp;langId=3D-1&amp;searchTerm=3Dpurolater%20L20=
195">https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/web/SearchResults?storeId=3D10151&=
amp;catalogId=3D10051&amp;langId=3D-1&amp;searchTerm=3Dpurolater%20L20195=
</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I have heard people say that you shouldn=E2=80=99t use =
racing oil or synthetic &nbsp;because blah blah blah.&nbsp; Been using =
it for decades in my cars and they still run strong oil pressure.&nbsp; =
I change the oil and filter about once a year.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
am.net</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Brian Kemp<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, =
April 30, 2021 8:30 AM<br><b>To:</b> Steve Thornton &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">sothornton@stevethorntonl=
aw.com</a>&gt;; TR List &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; =
John Swauger &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; =
Darell Floyd &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Sub=
ject:</b> Re: [TR] Question?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>For the filter, if it is the same as the =
TR6 spin on, look up a 1996 Ford Mustang V6.&nbsp; You should get the =
Fram PH3600 and similar models.&nbsp; This info should let you pick your =
favorite brand.<br><br>Brian K<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On 4/29/2021 7:31 PM, Steve Thornton =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;I return.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>After a long hibernation, I am back in the British car =
world. I bought a 1956 Morgan, that sports a TR4 motor. Hopefully, that =
makes me somewhat TR worthy.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
am doing some routine maintenance and need your =
help.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>1. How many quarts of oil does a TR4 motor =
hold?&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>2. I installed the spin on filter adaptor. What is the =
best filter most people use? I bought the TRF version, but it seems =
there is a better version as I recall.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>3. Is the oil weight used still 20-50, with the zinc =
additive from TRF?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Steven O. Thornton&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Attorney at Law<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Thornton Law Office<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>1011 Lehman Avenue<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Bowling Green, KY.&nbsp;<span =
style=3D'font-size:13.0pt'>42103</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.0pt'>270-781-6630</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><=
p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p =
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