Subject: [TR] TR2 front brake conversion

From: John Deluca <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2021 12:18:07 -0500

Listers,
Am considering converting my 1955 TR2 to front disc brakes.  Have read in forums what some folks have done.  I could not see a one best way.  Does anyone have a “cookbook recipe” of the parts needed, procedures, etc. for a reliable conversion? I know this is asking a lot and  any suggestions are appreciated.
John DeLuca

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From: David P <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2021 11:25:43 -0600

I'm installing Wilwood conversion kit on a Jag XK150. Might check with 
their catalog.. ??

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From: <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2021 10:47:16 -0700

John,

Link below identifies differences between front suspension for drums and discs.

Looks like a pretty straight forward conversion, as the suspension is generally the same and everything is "bolt on".

https://mossmotors.com/triumph-tr2-3-4/suspension-steering/front-suspension-tr2-4

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From: Steve Kirby <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2021 17:55:10 +0000

I just did a TR2 front conversion from steel wheels to wire wheels.  Looked easy but some of the parts are impossible to get and others are very expensive.  Be sure you can get all the components you need before you dive in.

Steve Kirby
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John,

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From: Frank Fisher <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2021 18:20:24 +0000 (UTC)

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 we recently switched the Triumph Mayflower from its drums to TR3 disks.sim=
ple swapFrank
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cglobal.net> wrote: =20
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Am considering converting my 1955 TR2 to front disc brakes.=C2=A0 Have read=
 in forums what some folks have done.=C2=A0 I could not see a one best way.=
=C2=A0 Does anyone have a =E2=80=9Ccookbook recipe=E2=80=9D of the parts ne=
eded, procedures, etc. for a reliable conversion? I know this is asking a l=
ot and=C2=A0 any suggestions are appreciated.
John DeLuca

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From: "dave" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2021 14:44:01 -0500

TR2s are wonderful quirky old things.  Beware the quest to "modernize" it with discs, rack n pinion steering and the like.  That is chasing a rainbow.

There is no good reason to do that unless you are racing.  Drum brakes are adequate to stop the car and keep it original, if you keep the drums in shape.  They do fade faster than disc, but is that an issue?

Or are you doing this because you have brake problems and have not properly diagnosed/repaired the problem?  brake problems are often due to bad hoses.  Switch to SS and see if that helps.

Please read this:  https://mgaguru.com/mgtech/brakes/bt202.htm

Yes, it is about MGA, but they are very similar cars and I believe the logic here is the same.

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To: <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
Subject: [TR] TR2 front brake conversion

Listers,

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From: "Joel E. Justin" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2021 19:45:12 +0000

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John,

I have a '54 TR2 with TR3 discs, but I didn't do the conversion - the perso=
n I bought the car from did. If you reach out to me privately, I can get yo=
u in contact with him if you'd like.

But as others have said, I believe the swap is pretty straight-forward as l=
ong as you have a spare TR3 sitting around. Comparing the spare parts catal=
ogues or Moss' website and noting the differences would give you the list o=
f parts that need changing.

Joel...

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From: John Deluca <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 10:18 AM
To: <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
Subject: [TR] TR2 front brake conversion

Listers,
Am considering converting my 1955 TR2 to front disc brakes.  Have read in f=
orums what some folks have done.  I could not see a one best way.  Does any=
one have a =93cookbook recipe=94 of the parts needed, procedures, etc. for =
a reliable conversion? I know this is asking a lot and  any suggestions are=
 appreciated.
John DeLuca

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I have a '54 TR2 with TR3 discs, but I didn't do the conversion - the perso=
n I bought the car from did. If you reach out to me privately, I can get yo=
u in contact with him if you'd like.</div>
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But as others have said, I believe the swap is pretty straight-forward as l=
ong as you have a spare TR3 sitting around. Comparing the spare parts catal=
ogues or Moss' website and noting the differences would give you the list o=
f parts that need changing.</div>
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Am considering converting my 1955 TR2 to front disc brakes.&nbsp; Have read=
 in forums what some folks have done.&nbsp; I could not see a one best way.=
&nbsp; Does anyone have a =93cookbook recipe=94 of the parts needed, proced=
ures, etc. for a reliable conversion? I know this is
 asking a lot and&nbsp; any suggestions are appreciated.<br>
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From: David P <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2021 14:39:03 -0600

The easier conversion or upgrade might/would be to add a brake booster. 
Pretty cheap and easy enough to plumb in.. I agree with Dave.. drums 
will lock up all four if proper maintained.. DaveP

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From: John Macartney <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2021 22:38:35 +0100

Hear hear on Dave Masseys input. Unless you plan to regularly use the car on mountain pass type roads where prolonged heavy braking is the norm, those front drums should be fine. The same applies to the MGA and smaller cars like the Mk 1 Sprite and MG TC. In the mid sixties I used my ‘48 TC (first car) extensively in the Alps of Austria and Switzerland without a problem. Just a bit slower on descents and one gear lower than I’d normally use.

Jonmac

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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2021 21:52:20 +0000 (UTC)

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 Er... thanks for the vote of confidence but that was Dave Ranteer's advice=
 but I do agree wholeheartedly.=C2=A0 The reason to keep one of these is to=
 appreciate the anachronism.=C2=A0 That is why I kept my 57 bone stock and =
original.=C2=A0 It really makes one appreciate what those boffins did with =
the technology at their disposal at that time.
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From: John Macartney <[email-masked]>
To: dave <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Sent: Thu, Apr 1, 2021 4:38 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] TR2 front brake conversion

Hear hear on Dave Masseys input. Unless you plan to regularly use the car o=
n mountain pass type roads where prolonged heavy braking is the norm, those=
 front drums should be fine. The same applies to the MGA and smaller cars l=
ike the Mk 1 Sprite and MG TC. In the mid sixties I used my =E2=80=9848 TC =
(first car) extensively in the Alps of Austria and Switzerland without a pr=
oblem. Just a bit slower on descents and one gear lower than I=E2=80=99d no=
rmally use.

Jonmac

Vote for Guy Fawkes! The only man who entered Parliament with honest intent=
ions.

> TR2s are wonderful quirky old things.=C2=A0 Beware the quest to "moderniz=
e" it with discs, rack n pinion steering and the like.=C2=A0 That is chasin=
g a rainbow.
>=20
> There is no good reason to do that unless you are racing.=C2=A0 Drum brak=
es are adequate to stop the car and keep it original, if you keep the drums=
 in shape.=C2=A0 They do fade faster than disc, but is that an issue?
>=20
> Or are you doing this because you have brake problems and have not proper=
ly diagnosed/repaired the problem?=C2=A0 brake problems are often due to ba=
d hoses.=C2=A0 Switch to SS and see if that helps.
>=20
> Please read this:=C2=A0 https://mgaguru.com/mgtech/brakes/bt202.htm
>=20
> Yes, it is about MGA, but they are very similar cars and I believe the lo=
gic here is the same.
> Am considering converting my 1955 TR2 to front disc brakes.=C2=A0 Have re=
ad in forums what some folks have done.=C2=A0 I could not see a one best wa=
y.=C2=A0 Does anyone have a =E2=80=9Ccookbook recipe=E2=80=9D of the parts =
needed, procedures, etc. for a reliable conversion? I know this is asking a=
 lot and=C2=A0 any suggestions are appreciated.
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<div> <font size=3D"3">Er... thanks for the vote of confidence but that was=
 Dave Ranteer's advice but I do agree wholeheartedly.&nbsp; The reason to k=
eep one of these is to appreciate the anachronism.&nbsp; That is why I kept=
 my 57 bone stock and original.&nbsp; It really makes one appreciate what t=
hose boffins did with the technology at their disposal at that time.</font>=
<br>
</div>

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</div>

<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
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To: dave &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: [email-masked]<br>
Sent: Thu, Apr 1, 2021 4:38 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR2 front brake conversion<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hear hear on Dave Masseys input. Unless you plan to regula=
rly use the car on mountain pass type roads where prolonged heavy braking i=
s the norm, those front drums should be fine. The same applies to the MGA a=
nd smaller cars like the Mk 1 Sprite and MG TC. In the mid sixties I used m=
y =E2=80=9848 TC (first car) extensively in the Alps of Austria and Switzer=
land without a problem. Just a bit slower on descents and one gear lower th=
an I=E2=80=99d normally use.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Jonmac<br=
 clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Vote for Guy Fawkes! The only man who en=
tered Parliament with honest intentions.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"non=
e">&gt; On 1 Apr 2021, at 20:44, dave &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; TR2s are wonderfu=
l quirky old things.&nbsp; Beware the quest to "modernize" it with discs, r=
ack n pinion steering and the like.&nbsp; That is chasing a rainbow.<br cle=
ar=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; There is no good reason to do that=
 unless you are racing.&nbsp; Drum brakes are adequate to stop the car and =
keep it original, if you keep the drums in shape.&nbsp; They do fade faster=
 than disc, but is that an issue?<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none"=
>&gt; Or are you doing this because you have brake problems and have not pr=
operly diagnosed/repaired the problem?&nbsp; brake problems are often due t=
o bad hoses.&nbsp; Switch to SS and see if that helps.<br clear=3D"none">&g=
t; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Please read this:&nbsp; <a shape=3D"rect" href=
=3D"https://mgaguru.com/mgtech/brakes/bt202.htm" target=3D"_blank">https://=
mgaguru.com/mgtech/brakes/bt202.htm</a><br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D=
"none">&gt; Yes, it is about MGA, but they are very similar cars and I beli=
eve the logic here is the same.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&=
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&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Listers,<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Am considering=
 converting my 1955 TR2 to front disc brakes.&nbsp; Have read in forums wha=
t some folks have done.&nbsp; I could not see a one best way.&nbsp; Does an=
yone have a =E2=80=9Ccookbook recipe=E2=80=9D of the parts needed, procedur=
es, etc. for a reliable conversion? I know this is asking a lot and&nbsp; a=
ny suggestions are appreciated.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; John DeLuca<br clear=
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Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2021 00:39:31 +0000 (UTC)

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 Hear, Hear! The comparison to early MGA is especially appropriate, as they=
 are very, very similar Lockheed systems.Years ago, a friend of mine with a=
n MGA 1500 wanted me to check his brakes out. The car really didn't stop al=
l that well, primarily because only one front wheel was actually benefiting=
 from functional brakes! I got him going -- and stopping -- well again with=
 a complete overhaul at all four corners. My only regret was trying to save=
 him money by going with "pattern" wheel cylinders rather than the availabl=
e-but-more-expensive OE Lockheed parts. Those wheel cylinders did function,=
 but they were so badly cast that it took far too much time to carefully fi=
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-----Original Message-----
From: dave <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Sent: Thu, Apr 1, 2021 3:44 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] TR2 front brake conversion

TR2s are wonderful quirky old things.=C2=A0 Beware the quest to "modernize"=
 it with discs, rack n pinion steering and the like.=C2=A0 That is chasing =
a rainbow.

There is no good reason to do that unless you are racing.=C2=A0 Drum brakes=
 are adequate to stop the car and keep it original, if you keep the drums i=
n shape.=C2=A0 They do fade faster than disc, but is that an issue?

Or are you doing this because you have brake problems and have not properly=
 diagnosed/repaired the problem?=C2=A0 brake problems are often due to bad =
hoses.=C2=A0 Switch to SS and see if that helps.

Yes, it is about MGA, but they are very similar cars and I believe the logi=
c here is the same.
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black"><font size="2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: dave &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: [email-masked]<br>
Sent: Thu, Apr 1, 2021 3:44 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR2 front brake conversion<br>
<br>

<div dir="ltr">TR2s are wonderful quirky old things.&nbsp; Beware the quest to "modernize" it with discs, rack n pinion steering and the like.&nbsp; That is chasing a rainbow.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">There is no good reason to do that unless you are racing.&nbsp; Drum brakes are adequate to stop the car and keep it original, if you keep the drums in shape.&nbsp; They do fade faster than disc, but is that an issue?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Or are you doing this because you have brake problems and have not properly diagnosed/repaired the problem?&nbsp; brake problems are often due to bad hoses.&nbsp; Switch to SS and see if that helps.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Please read this:&nbsp; <a shape="rect" href="https://mgaguru.com/mgtech/brakes/bt202.htm" target="_blank">https://mgaguru.com/mgtech/brakes/bt202.htm</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Yes, it is about MGA, but they are very similar cars and I believe the logic here is the same.</div>
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From: DAVE HOGYE <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2021 21:04:30 -0700 (PDT)

Disc brakes are an improvement in technology.  Which I'm guessing Triumph figured out sometime in 1956.  One of the reasons I'm able to beat Corvettes on the race track, is because of their inferior front drum brakes to my Triumph discs.  An errant ball or Squirrel crossing the street may also be a good reason to have better brakes.  Chevy didn't add discs to the front of a Corvette until 1963.  Duh.  
Dave H. 
  
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I agree about the brakes, I don't think it is a must thing, but if you are
bolting on parts from a later Triumph that otherwise is essentially the
same car.

However, rack and pinion steering.  I have driven TR3s with rack and pinion
steering.  Is it lighter and more direct? Yes.  Does it still feel like a
widescreen TR? No, not at all.

Greg Lemon, TR250

On Thu, Apr 1, 2021, 11:04 PM DAVE HOGYE <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Disc brakes are an improvement in technology.  Which I'm guessing Triumph
> figured out sometime in 1956.  One of the reasons I'm able to beat
> Corvettes on the race track, is because of their inferior front drum brak=
es
> to my Triumph discs.  An errant ball or Squirrel crossing the street may
> also be a good reason to have better brakes.  Chevy didn't add discs to t=
he
> front of a Corvette until 1963.  Duh.
> Dave H.
>
> > Am considering converting my 1955 TR2 to front disc brakes.  Have read
> in forums what some folks have done.  I could not see a one best way.  Do=
es
> anyone have a =E2=80=9Ccookbook recipe=E2=80=9D of the parts needed, proc=
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> reliable conversion? I know this is asking a lot and  any suggestions are
> appreciated.
> > John DeLuca
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<div dir=3D"auto">I agree about the brakes, I don&#39;t think it is a must =
thing, but if you are bolting on parts from a later Triumph that otherwise =
is essentially the same car.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">H=
owever, rack and pinion steering.=C2=A0 I have driven TR3s with rack and pi=
nion steering.=C2=A0 Is it lighter and more direct? Yes.=C2=A0 Does it stil=
l feel like a widescreen TR? No, not at all.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"auto">Greg Lemon, TR250</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 1, 2021, 11:04 PM D=
AVE HOGYE &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0=
 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Disc brakes are an imp=
rovement in technology.=C2=A0 Which I&#39;m guessing Triumph figured out so=
metime in 1956.=C2=A0 One of the reasons I&#39;m able to beat Corvettes on =
the race track, is because of their inferior front drum brakes to my Triump=
h discs.=C2=A0 An errant ball or Squirrel crossing the street may also be a=
 good reason to have better brakes.=C2=A0 Chevy didn&#39;t add discs to the=
 front of a Corvette until 1963.=C2=A0 Duh.=C2=A0 <br>
Dave H. <br>
<br>
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cglobal.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]<=
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&gt;=C2=A0 <br>
&gt; Listers,<br>
&gt; Am considering converting my 1955 TR2 to front disc brakes.=C2=A0 Have=
 read in forums what some folks have done.=C2=A0 I could not see a one best=
 way.=C2=A0 Does anyone have a =E2=80=9Ccookbook recipe=E2=80=9D of the par=
ts needed, procedures, etc. for a reliable conversion? I know this is askin=
g a lot and=C2=A0 any suggestions are appreciated.<br>
&gt; John DeLuca<br>
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From: John Deluca <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2021 20:27:44 -0500

Dave,
I disagree. Unless it’s used as a “parade car” improving the brakes will increase safety, which is my concern.  I’m not interested in “modernizing”.
All,
My thanks and appreciation to all who responded.  I believe I have answered all individually.
John DeLuca

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