Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A IRS Suspension Question

From: Sujit Roy <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 19:22:11 -0700

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Can the engine rotation cause one side to lean more. I've heard that about
Stags

On Wed, Mar 24, 2021, 7:14 PM David Brady <[email-masked]> wrote:

> When you figure this out, please let us know. I've had the same question
> about my TR250. In my case the steer and drive axles on the right hand side
> are quarter inch or so higher than the left. Correct or not, I attribute
> this to these cars being setup as RHD and Triumph tweaking the right side
> slightly higher to attribute for pilot weight. Of course, this doesn't help
> things on this side of the pond.
>
> David Brady
> '68 TR250
> CD8124L
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Jim Henningsen <[email-masked]>
> >Sent: Mar 23, 2021 8:06 PM
> >To: [email-masked]
> >Subject: [TR] TR4A IRS Suspension Question
> >
> >Ok, just finished redoing front and rear suspension on my 67 4A IRS.
> >Complete disassembly, clean, repaint, new urethane bushings, tie rod ends,
> >trunnions, etc.  New comp springs ( 1 inch lower) all corners, new stock
> >tubes shocks up front and new KYB gas shocks on the tube shock conversion
> >brackets for the IRS.  Reinstalled all alignment shims as installed as the
> >car drove pretty straight.  Urethane packings on springs.
> >
> >After completing, I noticed that all four corners have a slightly
> different
> >ride height when measured from garage floor to bottom on fender lip at
> >center of each wheel.  Left front: 26 3/4 inches, Right front: 26 1/4,
> Left
> >rear: 27 3/8, right rear: 27 7/8.  I think the higher rear height is
> coming
> >from the tube shock conversion as it was lower with the levers.    So
> about
> >a half inch off each side.   I don't recall having this issue when I redid
> >my TR6, but that was a while ago.   Rears also have stock trailing arm
> >brackets (one and two notch brackets on each side - believe these are
> >original from new given history of the car).
> >
> >Looking for help on next steps before bringing it in for an alignment.
> Will
> >alignment correct height difference or do I need to add 1/2 inch spacers
> on
> >lower sides.  I am going to put uprated valved levers back on rear to
> >eliminate the extra height in rear.
> >
> >Any help appreciated.
> >
> >Thanks
> >Jim Henningsen
> >Ocala FL
> >Too many TRs to maintain!
> >61 3A
> >62 4
> >67 4A
> >75 6
> >81 8
> >
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<div dir=3D"auto">Can the engine rotation cause one side to lean more. I&#3=
9;ve heard that about Stags</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D=
"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 24, 2021, 7:14 PM David Brady &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
r></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border=
-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">When you figure this out, please let=
 us know. I&#39;ve had the same question about my TR250. In my case the ste=
er and drive axles on the right hand side are quarter inch or so higher tha=
n the left. Correct or not, I attribute this to these cars being setup as R=
HD and Triumph tweaking the right side slightly higher to attribute for pil=
ot weight. Of course, this doesn&#39;t help things on this side of the pond=
.<br>
<br>
David Brady<br>
&#39;68 TR250<br>
CD8124L<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
&gt;From: Jim Henningsen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D=
"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;Sent: Mar 23, 2021 8:06 PM<br>
&gt;To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D=
"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a><br>
&gt;Subject: [TR] TR4A IRS Suspension Question<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Ok, just finished redoing front and rear suspension on my 67 4A IRS.<br=
&gt;Complete disassembly, clean, repaint, new urethane bushings, tie rod en=
ds,<br>
&gt;trunnions, etc.=C2=A0 New comp springs ( 1 inch lower) all corners, new=
 stock<br>
&gt;tubes shocks up front and new KYB gas shocks on the tube shock conversi=
on<br>
&gt;brackets for the IRS.=C2=A0 Reinstalled all alignment shims as installe=
d as the<br>
&gt;car drove pretty straight.=C2=A0 Urethane packings on springs. <br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;After completing, I noticed that all four corners have a slightly diffe=
rent<br>
&gt;ride height when measured from garage floor to bottom on fender lip at<=
br>
&gt;center of each wheel.=C2=A0 Left front: 26 3/4 inches, Right front: 26 =
1/4, Left<br>
&gt;rear: 27 3/8, right rear: 27 7/8.=C2=A0 I think the higher rear height =
is coming<br>
&gt;from the tube shock conversion as it was lower with the levers.=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 So about<br>
&gt;a half inch off each side.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I don&#39;t recall having this i=
ssue when I redid<br>
&gt;my TR6, but that was a while ago.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Rears also have stock tra=
iling arm<br>
&gt;brackets (one and two notch brackets on each side - believe these are<b=
r>
&gt;original from new given history of the car).=C2=A0 <br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Looking for help on next steps before bringing it in for an alignment.=
=C2=A0 Will<br>
&gt;alignment correct height difference or do I need to add 1/2 inch spacer=
s on<br>
&gt;lower sides.=C2=A0 I am going to put uprated valved levers back on rear=
 to<br>
&gt;eliminate the extra height in rear.=C2=A0 <br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Any help appreciated.=C2=A0 =C2=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Thanks<br>
&gt;Jim Henningsen<br>
&gt;Ocala FL<br>
&gt;Too many TRs to maintain!<br>
&gt;61 3A<br>
&gt;62 4<br>
&gt;67 4A<br>
&gt;75 6<br>
&gt;81 8<br>
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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2021 11:23:26 +0000 (UTC)

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 On live rear axle cars the engine and the rear axle want to twist in oppos=
ite directions and the reaction torque will exhibit itself at the point whe=
re the front and rear axle meat the ground.=C2=A0 In other words the wheels=
 on opposite side at each end of the car will want to lift.
In IRS cars the return path for the reaction torque is through the frame an=
d the wheels are not part of the equation.=C2=A0=20
=20
Dave=20

=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Sujit Roy <[email-masked]>
To: David Brady <[email-masked]>
Cc: Triumphs <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wed, Mar 24, 2021 9:22 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A IRS Suspension Question

Can the engine rotation cause one side to lean more. I've heard that about =
Stags
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021, 7:14 PM David Brady <[email-masked]> wrote:

When you figure this out, please let us know. I've had the same question ab=
out my TR250. In my case the steer and drive axles on the right hand side a=
re quarter inch or so higher than the left. Correct or not, I attribute thi=
s to these cars being setup as RHD and Triumph tweaking the right side slig=
htly higher to attribute for pilot weight. Of course, this doesn't help thi=
ngs on this side of the pond.

David Brady
'68 TR250
CD8124L

-----Original Message-----
>trunnions, etc.=C2=A0 New comp springs ( 1 inch lower) all corners, new st=
ock
>brackets for the IRS.=C2=A0 Reinstalled all alignment shims as installed a=
s the
>car drove pretty straight.=C2=A0 Urethane packings on springs.=20
>
>After completing, I noticed that all four corners have a slightly differen=
t
>center of each wheel.=C2=A0 Left front: 26 3/4 inches, Right front: 26 1/4=
, Left
>rear: 27 3/8, right rear: 27 7/8.=C2=A0 I think the higher rear height is =
coming
>from the tube shock conversion as it was lower with the levers.=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 So about
>a half inch off each side.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I don't recall having this issue wh=
en I redid
>my TR6, but that was a while ago.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Rears also have stock traili=
ng arm
>original from new given history of the car).=C2=A0=20
>
>Looking for help on next steps before bringing it in for an alignment.=C2=
=A0 Will
>alignment correct height difference or do I need to add 1/2 inch spacers o=
n
>lower sides.=C2=A0 I am going to put uprated valved levers back on rear to
>eliminate the extra height in rear.=C2=A0=20
>
>Any help appreciated.=C2=A0 =C2=A0
>
>Thanks
>Jim Henningsen
>Ocala FL
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<div style="color:black;font: 12pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<div> <font size="3">On live rear axle cars the engine and the rear axle want to twist in opposite directions and the reaction torque will exhibit itself at the point where the front and rear axle meat the ground.&nbsp; In other words the wheels on opposite side at each end of the car will want to lift.</font></div>

<div><font size="3"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size="3">In IRS cars the return path for the reaction torque is through the frame and the wheels are not part of the equation.&nbsp; </font><br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style="clear:both"><font size="4">Dave </font><br>
<br>
</div>

<div> <br>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black"><font size="2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Sujit Roy &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: David Brady &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Wed, Mar 24, 2021 9:22 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A IRS Suspension Question<br>
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<div class="yiv8933979127yqt5047684183" id="yiv8933979127yqtfd95767">When you figure this out, please let us know. I've had the same question about my TR250. In my case the steer and drive axles on the right hand side are quarter inch or so higher than the left. Correct or not, I attribute this to these cars being setup as RHD and Triumph tweaking the right side slightly higher to attribute for pilot weight. Of course, this doesn't help things on this side of the pond.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
David Brady<br clear="none">
'68 TR250<br clear="none">
CD8124L<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
-----Original Message-----<br clear="none">
&gt;From: Jim Henningsen &lt;<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear="none">
&gt;Sent: Mar 23, 2021 8:06 PM<br clear="none">
&gt;To: <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br clear="none">
&gt;Subject: [TR] TR4A IRS Suspension Question<br clear="none">
&gt;<br clear="none">
&gt;Ok, just finished redoing front and rear suspension on my 67 4A IRS.<br clear="none">
&gt;Complete disassembly, clean, repaint, new urethane bushings, tie rod ends,<br clear="none">
&gt;trunnions, etc.&nbsp; New comp springs ( 1 inch lower) all corners, new stock<br clear="none">
&gt;tubes shocks up front and new KYB gas shocks on the tube shock conversion<br clear="none">
&gt;brackets for the IRS.&nbsp; Reinstalled all alignment shims as installed as the<br clear="none">
&gt;car drove pretty straight.&nbsp; Urethane packings on springs. <br clear="none">
&gt;<br clear="none">
&gt;After completing, I noticed that all four corners have a slightly different<br clear="none">
&gt;ride height when measured from garage floor to bottom on fender lip at<br clear="none">
&gt;center of each wheel.&nbsp; Left front: 26 3/4 inches, Right front: 26 1/4, Left<br clear="none">
&gt;rear: 27 3/8, right rear: 27 7/8.&nbsp; I think the higher rear height is coming<br clear="none">
&gt;from the tube shock conversion as it was lower with the levers.&nbsp; &nbsp; So about<br clear="none">
&gt;a half inch off each side.&nbsp; &nbsp;I don't recall having this issue when I redid<br clear="none">
&gt;my TR6, but that was a while ago.&nbsp; &nbsp;Rears also have stock trailing arm<br clear="none">
&gt;brackets (one and two notch brackets on each side - believe these are<br clear="none">
&gt;original from new given history of the car).&nbsp; <br clear="none">
&gt;<br clear="none">
&gt;Looking for help on next steps before bringing it in for an alignment.&nbsp; Will<br clear="none">
&gt;alignment correct height difference or do I need to add 1/2 inch spacers on<br clear="none">
&gt;lower sides.&nbsp; I am going to put uprated valved levers back on rear to<br clear="none">
&gt;eliminate the extra height in rear.&nbsp; <br clear="none">
&gt;<br clear="none">
&gt;Any help appreciated.&nbsp; &nbsp;<br clear="none">
&gt;<br clear="none">
&gt;Thanks<br clear="none">
&gt;Jim Henningsen<br clear="none">
&gt;Ocala FL<br clear="none">
&gt;Too many TRs to maintain!<br clear="none">
&gt;61 3A<br clear="none">
&gt;62 4<br clear="none">
&gt;67 4A<br clear="none">
&gt;75 6<br clear="none">
&gt;81 8<br clear="none">
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From: John Macartney <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:30:34 +0000

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Someone speculated earlier today that suspension settings may have been adju=
sted when the car was in build at the factory to compensate for driver weigh=
t? Not so, I=E2=80=99m afraid. How do you compensate for a left or right wei=
ght bias when you don=E2=80=99t know in advance what that weight would be? W=
hen the cars were new and going through the water test and on the rolling ro=
ad at the end of Final Finish, it was clear for everyone to see that one sid=
e of the sat lower than the other as long as someone was in it. Over time, a=
nd especially on cars of Herald or Herald derivative suspension type, the st=
ance always adopted a marginal sag on whichever side the driver sat. That wa=
s the price you paid for such outstanding engineering:)

Jonmac

Vote for Guy Fawkes! The only man who entered Parliament with honest intenti=
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> On 25 Mar 2021, at 02:22, Sujit Roy <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> Can the engine rotation cause one side to lean more. I've heard that about=
 Stags
>> When you figure this out, please let us know. I've had the same question a=
bout my TR250. In my case the steer and drive axles on the right hand side a=
re quarter inch or so higher than the left. Correct or not, I attribute this=
 to these cars being setup as RHD and Triumph tweaking the right side slight=
ly higher to attribute for pilot weight. Of course, this doesn't help things=
 on this side of the pond.
>> >Complete disassembly, clean, repaint, new urethane bushings, tie rod end=
s,
>> >trunnions, etc.  New comp springs ( 1 inch lower) all corners, new stock=

>> >tubes shocks up front and new KYB gas shocks on the tube shock conversio=
n
>> >brackets for the IRS.  Reinstalled all alignment shims as installed as t=
he
>> >car drove pretty straight.  Urethane packings on springs.=20
>> >
>> >After completing, I noticed that all four corners have a slightly differ=
ent
>> >center of each wheel.  Left front: 26 3/4 inches, Right front: 26 1/4, L=
eft
>> >rear: 27 3/8, right rear: 27 7/8.  I think the higher rear height is com=
ing
>> >from the tube shock conversion as it was lower with the levers.    So ab=
out
>> >a half inch off each side.   I don't recall having this issue when I red=
id
>> >original from new given history of the car). =20
>> >
>> >Looking for help on next steps before bringing it in for an alignment.  W=
ill
>> >alignment correct height difference or do I need to add 1/2 inch spacers=
 on
>> >eliminate the extra height in rear. =20
>> >
>> >Any help appreciated.  =20
>> >
>> >Thanks
>> >Jim Henningsen
>> >Ocala FL
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Someone speculated earlier today that suspe=
nsion settings may have been adjusted when the car was in build at the facto=
ry to compensate for driver weight? Not so, I=E2=80=99m afraid. How do you c=
ompensate for a left or right weight bias when you don=E2=80=99t know in adv=
ance what that weight would be? When the cars were new and going through the=
 water test and on the rolling road at the end of Final Finish, it was clear=
 for everyone to see that one side of the sat lower than the other as long a=
s someone was in it. Over time, and especially on cars of Herald or Herald d=
erivative suspension type, the stance always adopted a marginal sag on which=
ever side the driver sat. That was the price you paid for such outstanding e=
ngineering:)<div><br></div><div>Jonmac<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"=
 dir=3D"ltr">Vote for Guy Fawkes! The only man who entered Parliament with h=
onest intentions.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On 25 Mar 2021, at 02:22, Sujit R=
oy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt=
; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D=
"auto">Can the engine rotation cause one side to lean more. I've heard that a=
bout Stags</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gma=
il_attr">On Wed, Mar 24, 2021, 7:14 PM David Brady &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dmb=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">When you figure this out, please let us know. I've had the s=
ame question about my TR250. In my case the steer and drive axles on the rig=
ht hand side are quarter inch or so higher than the left. Correct or not, I a=
ttribute this to these cars being setup as RHD and Triumph tweaking the righ=
t side slightly higher to attribute for pilot weight. Of course, this doesn'=
t help things on this side of the pond.<br>
<br>
David Brady<br>
'68 TR250<br>
CD8124L<br>
<br>
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&gt;From: Jim Henningsen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"=
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&gt;Sent: Mar 23, 2021 8:06 PM<br>
&gt;To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"=
noreferrer">[email-masked]</a><br>
&gt;Subject: [TR] TR4A IRS Suspension Question<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Ok, just finished redoing front and rear suspension on my 67 4A IRS.<br>=

&gt;Complete disassembly, clean, repaint, new urethane bushings, tie rod end=
s,<br>
&gt;trunnions, etc.&nbsp; New comp springs ( 1 inch lower) all corners, new s=
tock<br>
&gt;tubes shocks up front and new KYB gas shocks on the tube shock conversio=
n<br>
&gt;brackets for the IRS.&nbsp; Reinstalled all alignment shims as installed=
 as the<br>
&gt;car drove pretty straight.&nbsp; Urethane packings on springs. <br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;After completing, I noticed that all four corners have a slightly differ=
ent<br>
&gt;ride height when measured from garage floor to bottom on fender lip at<b=
r>
&gt;center of each wheel.&nbsp; Left front: 26 3/4 inches, Right front: 26 1=
/4, Left<br>
&gt;rear: 27 3/8, right rear: 27 7/8.&nbsp; I think the higher rear height i=
s coming<br>
&gt;from the tube shock conversion as it was lower with the levers.&nbsp; &n=
bsp; So about<br>
&gt;a half inch off each side.&nbsp; &nbsp;I don't recall having this issue w=
hen I redid<br>
&gt;my TR6, but that was a while ago.&nbsp; &nbsp;Rears also have stock trai=
ling arm<br>
&gt;brackets (one and two notch brackets on each side - believe these are<br=
&gt;original from new given history of the car).&nbsp; <br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Looking for help on next steps before bringing it in for an alignment.&n=
bsp; Will<br>
&gt;alignment correct height difference or do I need to add 1/2 inch spacers=
 on<br>
&gt;lower sides.&nbsp; I am going to put uprated valved levers back on rear t=
o<br>
&gt;eliminate the extra height in rear.&nbsp; <br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Any help appreciated.&nbsp; &nbsp;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Thanks<br>
&gt;Jim Henningsen<br>
&gt;Ocala FL<br>
&gt;Too many TRs to maintain!<br>
&gt;61 3A<br>
&gt;62 4<br>
&gt;67 4A<br>
&gt;75 6<br>
&gt;81 8<br>
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