Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 starter bolt

From: Bob Danielson <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 19:43:53 -0500

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Those bolts can be a pain to get at so I modified a wrench to make the job =
easier as seen here=20

http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/Starter.htm

Bob

Bob Danielson
TR6 Interior Panels, Boot Covers and Fender Blankets
http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm

From: dave
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 7:20 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [TR] TR6 starter bolt

The starter motor is out right now; it failed me a couple weeks ago and wit=
h all the bad weather I=E2=80=99m still waiting for the replacement to arri=
ve.

Am really thinking of putting a helicoil in that top hole.=C2=A0 Its 5/16 2=
4 (fine thread).

Anyone else done that?=C2=A0 It looks like I can do it without removing any=
thing else.

Should I do it in coarse?=C2=A0 Any advice?

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'word-wrap:break-word'><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Those=
 bolts can be a pain to get at so I modified a wrench to make the job easie=
r as seen here </p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMso=
Normal><a href=3D"http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/Starter.htm">http://tr6.da=
nielsonfamily.org/Starter.htm</a></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>=
</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Bob</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal>Bob Danielson<br>TR6 Interior Panels, Boot Covers and F=
ender Blankets<br>http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm</p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div style=3D'mso-element:para-borde=
r-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'=
><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">dave</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, February 19,=
 2021 7:20 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">triu=
[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject: </b>[TR] TR6 starter bolt</p></div><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The starter m=
otor is out right now; it failed me a couple weeks ago and with all the bad=
 weather I=E2=80=99m still waiting for the replacement to arrive.<o:p></o:p=
></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Am real=
ly thinking of putting a helicoil in that top hole.&nbsp; Its 5/16 24 (fine=
 thread).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal>Anyone else done that?&nbsp; It looks like I can do it without=
 removing anything else.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Should I do it in coarse?&nbsp; Any advice?<o:p>=
</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></body></html>=

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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2021 02:15:01 +0000 (UTC)

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 That's a great idea, if it works.=C2=A0 But I thought the starter bolts we=
re 3/8.=C2=A0 Since you're tapping them you can chose fine or coarse thread=
.
=20
Dave=20

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From: dave <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Sent: Fri, Feb 19, 2021 6:19 pm
Subject: [TR] TR6 starter bolt

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ng else. =C2=A0Should I do it in coarse?=C2=A0 Any advice?** triumphs@autox=
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<div> <font size=3D"3">That's a great idea, if it works.&nbsp; But I though=
t the starter bolts were 3/8.&nbsp; Since you're tapping them you can chose=
 fine or coarse thread.</font><br>
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<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
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From: dave &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: [email-masked]<br>
Sent: Fri, Feb 19, 2021 6:19 pm<br>
Subject: [TR] TR6 starter bolt<br>
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<div class=3D"yiv8077121271MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

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oil in that top hole.&nbsp; Its 5/16 24 (fine thread).</div>

<div class=3D"yiv8077121271MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

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<div class=3D"yiv8077121271MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

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From: Dean <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2021 08:48:01 -0500

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/p><p class=3DMsoNormal>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 I agree on the helicoil. I did both bolts on the race car and it saved =
a lot of hassel at the race track when a starter failed. If putting the hel=
icoil in the engine plate I would use fine thread, for the tranny case I wo=
uld use course. The advantage of in the engine Plate, is you can remove the=
 tranny without removing the starter. Any thing to make a job easier when w=
orking by yourself</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>At the track and saves time. </p=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Dean T.</p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from <a=
 href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986">Mail</a> for Win=
dows 10</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div style=3D'mso-elem=
ent:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0p=
t 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'border:none;padding:0in'><b>Fr=
om: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">dave</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday=
, February 19, 2021 7:20 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.=
team.net">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject: </b>[TR] TR6 starter b=
olt</p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal=
>The starter motor is out right now; it failed me a couple weeks ago and wi=
th all the bad weather I=E2=80=99m still waiting for the replacement to arr=
ive.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMso=
Normal>Am really thinking of putting a helicoil in that top hole.&nbsp; Its=
 5/16 24 (fine thread).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p=
></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Anyone else done that?&nbsp; It looks like I can =
do it without removing anything else.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o=
:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Should I do it in coarse?&nbsp; Any=
 advice?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></bo=
dy></html>=

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From: Dean <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2021 08:52:22 -0500

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p><p class=3DMsoNormal>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I always =
used a piece of Gorilla tape on the side of a open end wrench with the angl=
ed end. Sticky side to the nut. </p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Removing just let =
it drop. I always have extra nuts.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p=
></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Dean T.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>=
</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent fro=
m <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986">Mail</a> for=
 Windows 10</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div style=3D'mso-=
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3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'border:none;padding:0in'><=
b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Bob Danielson<=
/a><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, February 19, 2021 7:49 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">dave</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m.net">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [TR] TR6 starter =
bolt</p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l>Those bolts can be a pain to get at so I modified a wrench to make the jo=
b easier as seen here <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>=
</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><a href=3D"http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/Starter.=
htm">http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/Starter.htm</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Bob<o:p></o:p></p><p=
 class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Bob Danielson<=
br>TR6 Interior Panels, Boot Covers and Fender Blankets<br>http://tr6.danie=
lsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></p><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;pa=
dding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]">dave</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, February 19, 2021 7:20=
 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">triumphs@autox=
.team.net</a><br><b>Subject: </b>[TR] TR6 starter bolt<o:p></o:p></p></div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The starter =
motor is out right now; it failed me a couple weeks ago and with all the ba=
d weather I=E2=80=99m still waiting for the replacement to arrive.<o:p></o:=
p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Am rea=
lly thinking of putting a helicoil in that top hole.&nbsp; Its 5/16 24 (fin=
e thread).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal>Anyone else done that?&nbsp; It looks like I can do it without=
 removing anything else.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Should I do it in coarse?&nbsp; Any advice?<o:p>=
</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o=
:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></body></html>=

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Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2021 13:54:23 +0000 (UTC)

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 I'd consider going the full monty and helicoil the holes for the transmiss=
ion mounting, too.=C2=A0 This bolt-and-loose-nut business is so unprofessio=
nal.=C2=A0 Next time I pull it apart...
Of course, the problem is those engines are just so durable.
=20
Dave=20

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From: Dean <[email-masked]>
To: dave <[email-masked]>; [email-masked] <[email-masked]=
et>
Sent: Sat, Feb 20, 2021 7:48 am
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 starter bolt

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=C2=A0=C2=A0 I agree on the helicoil. I did both bolts on the race car and =
it saved a lot of hassel at the race track when a starter failed. If puttin=
g the helicoil in the engine plate I would use fine thread, for the tranny =
case I would use course. The advantage of in the engine Plate, is you can r=
emove the tranny without removing the starter. Any thing to make a job easi=
er when working by yourselfAt the track and saves time.  =C2=A0Dean T. =C2=
=A0Sent from Mail for Windows 10 =C2=A0From: dave
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 7:20 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [TR] TR6 starter bolt =C2=A0The starter motor is out right now; it=
 failed me a couple weeks ago and with all the bad weather I=E2=80=99m stil=
l waiting for the replacement to arrive. =C2=A0Am really thinking of puttin=
g a helicoil in that top hole.=C2=A0 Its 5/16 24 (fine thread). =C2=A0Anyon=
e else done that?=C2=A0 It looks like I can do it without removing anything=
 else. =C2=A0Should I do it in coarse?=C2=A0 Any advice? =C2=A0** triumphs@=
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<div> <font size=3D"3">I'd consider going the full monty and helicoil the h=
oles for the transmission mounting, too.&nbsp; This bolt-and-loose-nut busi=
ness is so unprofessional.&nbsp; Next time I pull it apart...</font></div>

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<div><font size=3D"3">Of course, the problem is those engines are just so d=
urable.</font><br>
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Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 starter bolt<br>
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<div class=3D"yiv1136544970MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I agree on the helicoil. I did both bolts on the race car=
 and it saved a lot of hassel at the race track when a starter failed. If p=
utting the helicoil in the engine plate I would use fine thread, for the tr=
anny case I would use course. The advantage of in the engine Plate, is you =
can remove the tranny without removing the starter. Any thing to make a job=
 easier when working by yourself</div>

<div class=3D"yiv1136544970MsoNormal">At the track and saves time. </div>

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<div class=3D"yiv1136544970MsoNormal">Dean T.</div>

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<div class=3D"yiv1136544970MsoNormal">The starter motor is out right now; i=
t failed me a couple weeks ago and with all the bad weather I=E2=80=99m sti=
ll waiting for the replacement to arrive.</div>

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<div class=3D"yiv1136544970MsoNormal">Am really thinking of putting a helic=
oil in that top hole.&nbsp; Its 5/16 24 (fine thread).</div>

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<div class=3D"yiv1136544970MsoNormal">Anyone else done that?&nbsp; It looks=
 like I can do it without removing anything else.</div>

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<div class=3D"yiv1136544970MsoNormal">Should I do it in coarse?&nbsp; Any a=
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Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2021 09:50:22 -0800

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When I had my transmission out, I added a helicoil to the top bolt and 
it made things much nicer.  I left the bottom as a nut and bolt because 
it is so accessible.  Prior to the helicoil, I just put a strip of 
masking tape inside the open end wrench and jammed the nut in the 
wrench.  This held the nut well enough to get the top bolt it, but then 
the wrench just pulled off.

A couple strips of masking tape inside a wrench or socket can be very 
helpful to hold a nut in place while you get the threads started.    On 
a related note, I've also put a drop of super glue on a pencil eraser 
and stuck on a nut.  The bond is strong enough to start the nut, but 
will break off when enough force is involved.

Brian

On 2/19/2021 4:19 PM, dave wrote:
>
> The starter motor is out right now; it failed me a couple weeks ago 
> and with all the bad weather I’m still waiting for the replacement to 
> arrive.
>
> Am really thinking of putting a helicoil in that top hole.  Its 5/16 
> 24 (fine thread).
>
> Anyone else done that?  It looks like I can do it without removing 
> anything else.
>
> Should I do it in coarse?  Any advice?
>
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    When I had my transmission out, I added a helicoil to the top bolt
    and it made things much nicer.  I left the bottom as a nut and bolt
    because it is so accessible.  Prior to the helicoil, I just put a
    strip of masking tape inside the open end wrench and jammed the nut
    in the wrench.  This held the nut well enough to get the top bolt
    it, but then the wrench just pulled off.<br>
    <br>
    A couple strips of masking tape inside a wrench or socket can be
    very helpful to hold a nut in place while you get the threads
    started.    On a related note, I've also put a drop of super glue on
    a pencil eraser and stuck on a nut.  The bond is strong enough to
    start the nut, but will break off when enough force is involved.<br>
    <br>
    Brian<br>
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