Subject: Re: [TR] TR2 pearl white

From: bill beecher <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 21:35:29 -0600

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Dave,
Try this site, gives a couple of paint codes for Pearl White, depending on t=
he year.=20

http://www.trregisterfrance.com/meca/paint.htm

Bill

#dontkillgrandma

On Jan 7, 2021, at 7:54 PM, Dave <[email-masked]> wrote:

=EF=BB=BFHello TR listers,
I have a TR2 long door that was originally pearl white with blue interior.  =
 I haven't found any pearl or hint of any metallic in any of the remaining o=
riginal paint.  Does anyone have knowledge of this particular Triumph color t=
hat they can share?=20
Was it just a bright white?  It sure looks bright, but no evidence of any pe=
arl.
Dave H.=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Dave,<div>Try this site, gives a couple of p=
aint codes for Pearl White, depending on the year.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div=
><div><a href=3D"http://www.trregisterfrance.com/meca/paint.htm">http://www.=
trregisterfrance.com/meca/paint.htm</a><br><br>Bill</div><div><br><div dir=3D=
"ltr">#dontkillgrandma</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jan 7, 2021, at 7:54 PM,=
 Dave &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=
=BF<span>Hello TR listers,</span><br><span>I have a TR2 long door that was o=
riginally pearl white with blue interior. &nbsp;&nbsp;I haven't found any pe=
arl or hint of any metallic in any of the remaining original paint. &nbsp;Do=
es anyone have knowledge of this particular Triumph color that they can shar=
e? </span><br><span>Was it just a bright white? &nbsp;It sure looks bright, b=
ut no evidence of any pearl.</span><br><span>Dave H. </span><br><span>Sent f=
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From: Dave <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 19:53:03 -0800 (PST)

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Thanks Bill,
This chart looks like good information. 
While trying to match Primrose/Pale Yellow on my '59 TR3, the numbers didn't translate to available modern paint.  I settled on using the later '68 Jasmine to get a code.  A computer read on the Primrose listed a VW Beetle convertible color named, if I remember correctly, Mello Yellow, which looks right on, when I see one of these cars on the road.
I'm just wondering if there was really any pearlescent in the original white.  
Is it obvious and or look very pearlescent?  
Dave H.

>     On 01/07/2021 7:35 PM bill beecher <[email-masked]> wrote:
>      
>      
>     Dave,
>     Try this site, gives a couple of paint codes for Pearl White, depending on the year. 
>      
>     Hello TR listers,
>     I have a TR2 long door that was originally pearl white with blue interior.   I haven't found any pearl or hint of any metallic in any of the remaining original paint.  Does anyone have knowledge of this particular Triumph color that they can share?
>     Was it just a bright white?  It sure looks bright, but no evidence of any pearl.
>     Dave H.
>     Sent from my iPad
>     Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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  <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;">
   <span style="font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Thanks Bill,</span>
  </div> 
  <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;">
   <span style="font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">This chart looks like good information.&nbsp;</span>
  </div> 
  <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;">
   <span style="font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">While trying to match Primrose/Pale Yellow on my '59 TR3, the numbers didn't translate to available modern paint.&nbsp; I settled on using the later '68 Jasmine to get a code.&nbsp; A computer read on the Primrose listed a VW Beetle convertible color named, if I remember correctly, Mello Yellow, which looks right on, when I see one of these cars on the road.</span>
  </div> 
  <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;">
   <span style="font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">I'm just wondering if there was really any pearlescent in the original white.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>
  </div> 
  <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;">
   <span style="font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Is it obvious and or look very pearlescent?&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>
  </div> 
  <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;">
   <span style="font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Dave H.</span>
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  <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;">
   &nbsp;
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    On 01/07/2021 7:35 PM bill beecher &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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    &nbsp;
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   <div>
    &nbsp;
   </div> Dave, 
   <div>
    Try this site, gives a couple of paint codes for Pearl White, depending on the year.&nbsp;
   </div> 
   <div>
    &nbsp;
   </div> 
   <div>
    <a href="http://www.trregisterfrance.com/meca/paint.htm">http://www.trregisterfrance.com/meca/paint.htm</a>
    <br>
    <br>Bill
   </div> 
   <div>
    <br> 
    <div dir="ltr">
     #dontkillgrandma
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     <br>On Jan 7, 2021, at 7:54 PM, Dave &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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     Hello TR listers,
     <br>I have a TR2 long door that was originally pearl white with blue interior. &nbsp;&nbsp;I haven't found any pearl or hint of any metallic in any of the remaining original paint. &nbsp;Does anyone have knowledge of this particular Triumph color that they can share? 
     <br>Was it just a bright white? &nbsp;It sure looks bright, but no evidence of any pearl.
     <br>Dave H. 
     <br>Sent from my iPad
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From: W Beecher <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 04:38:18 +0000 (UTC)

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I don=E2=80=99t know but I would doubt TR was using any metallics or pearle=
scent paints back then. =C2=A0It may turn out to be their version of Old En=
glish White.=C2=A0
Bill

Sent from Yahoo for iPhone

On Thursday, January 7, 2021, 9:53 PM, Dave <[email-masked]> wrote:

  Thanks Bill,   This chart looks like good information.=C2=A0   While tryi=
ng to match Primrose/Pale Yellow on my '59 TR3, the numbers didn't translat=
e to available modern paint.=C2=A0 I settled on using the later '68 Jasmine=
 to get a code.=C2=A0 A computer read on the Primrose listed a VW Beetle co=
nvertible color named, if I remember correctly, Mello Yellow, which looks r=
ight on, when I see one of these cars on the road.   I'm just wondering if =
there was really any pearlescent in the original white.=C2=A0=C2=A0   Is it=
 obvious and or look very pearlescent?=C2=A0=C2=A0   Dave H.   =C2=A0 =20
  On 01/07/2021 7:35 PM bill beecher <[email-masked]> wrote:   =C2=A0=
   =C2=A0  Dave,  Try this site, gives a couple of paint codes for Pearl Wh=
ite, depending on the year.=C2=A0   =C2=A0   http://www.trregisterfrance.co=
m/meca/paint.htm=20
=20
Bill  =20
  #dontkillgrandma  =20
On Jan 7, 2021, at 7:54 PM, Dave <[email-masked]> wrote:=20
=20
   Hello TR listers,=20
I have a TR2 long door that was originally pearl white with blue interior. =
=C2=A0=C2=A0I haven't found any pearl or hint of any metallic in any of the=
 remaining original paint. =C2=A0Does anyone have knowledge of this particu=
lar Triumph color that they can share?=20
Was it just a bright white? =C2=A0It sure looks bright, but no evidence of =
any pearl.=20
Dave H.=20
Sent from my iPad=20
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I don=E2=80=99t know but I would doubt TR was using any metallics or pearle=
scent paints back then. &nbsp;It may turn out to be their version of Old En=
glish White.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Bill<br><br><br><a href=3D"https://ap=
ps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661">Sent from Yah=
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  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;col=
or:#333333;">
   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt;">Thanks Bill,</span=
  </div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;col=
or:#333333;">
   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt;">This chart looks l=
ike good information.&nbsp;</span>
  </div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;col=
or:#333333;">
   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt;">While trying to ma=
tch Primrose/Pale Yellow on my '59 TR3, the numbers didn't translate to ava=
ilable modern paint.&nbsp; I settled on using the later '68 Jasmine to get =
a code.&nbsp; A computer read on the Primrose listed a VW Beetle convertibl=
e color named, if I remember correctly, Mello Yellow, which looks right on,=
 when I see one of these cars on the road.</span>
  </div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;col=
or:#333333;">
   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt;">I'm just wondering=
 if there was really any pearlescent in the original white.&nbsp;&nbsp;</sp=
an>
  </div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;col=
or:#333333;">
   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt;">Is it obvious and =
or look very pearlescent?&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>
  </div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;col=
or:#333333;">
   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt;">Dave H.</span>
  </div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;col=
or:#333333;">
   &nbsp;
  </div>=20
  <blockquote type=3D"cite">=20
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    On 01/07/2021 7:35 PM bill beecher &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
   </div>=20
   <div>
    &nbsp;
   </div>=20
   <div>
    &nbsp;
   </div> Dave,=20
   <div>
    Try this site, gives a couple of paint codes for Pearl White, depending=
 on the year.&nbsp;
   </div>=20
   <div>
    &nbsp;
   </div>=20
   <div>
    <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank=
" href=3D"http://www.trregisterfrance.com/meca/paint.htm">http://www.trregi=
sterfrance.com/meca/paint.htm</a>
    <br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">Bill
   </div>=20
   <div>
    <br clear=3D"none">=20
    <div dir=3D"ltr">
     #dontkillgrandma
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    <div dir=3D"ltr">
     <br clear=3D"none">On Jan 7, 2021, at 7:54 PM, Dave &lt;dlhogye@comcas=
t.net&gt; wrote:
     <br clear=3D"none">
     <br clear=3D"none">
    </div>=20
    <div dir=3D"ltr">
     Hello TR listers,
     <br clear=3D"none">I have a TR2 long door that was originally pearl wh=
ite with blue interior. &nbsp;&nbsp;I haven't found any pearl or hint of an=
y metallic in any of the remaining original paint. &nbsp;Does anyone have k=
nowledge of this particular Triumph color that they can share?=20
     <br clear=3D"none">Was it just a bright white? &nbsp;It sure looks bri=
ght, but no evidence of any pearl.
     <br clear=3D"none">Dave H.=20
     <br clear=3D"none">Sent from my iPad
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From: Dave Hogye <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 20:58:08 -0800

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That=E2=80=99s exactly what I was thinking. Not really a pearl white.  It wo=
uld still be interesting to know if someone has determined the correct color=
 besides what it=E2=80=99s called by Triumph.=20
Dave H.=20

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 7, 2021, at 8:38 PM, W Beecher <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> I don=E2=80=99t know but I would doubt TR was using any metallics or pearl=
escent paints back then.  It may turn out to be their version of Old English=
 White.=20
> This chart looks like good information.   =20
> While trying to match Primrose/Pale Yellow on my '59 TR3, the numbers didn=
't translate to available modern paint.  I settled on using the later '68 Ja=
smine to get a code.  A computer read on the Primrose listed a VW Beetle con=
vertible color named, if I remember correctly, Mello Yellow, which looks rig=
ht on, when I see one of these cars on the road.
> I'm just wondering if there was really any pearlescent in the original whi=
te. =20
> Is it obvious and or look very pearlescent? =20
> Dave H.
> =20
>> Try this site, gives a couple of paint codes for Pearl White, depending o=
n the year.=20
>> =20
>> http://www.trregisterfrance.com/meca/paint.htm=20
>>=20
>> Bill
>>=20
>> #dontkillgrandma
>>=20
>> I have a TR2 long door that was originally pearl white with blue interior=
.   I haven't found any pearl or hint of any metallic in any of the remainin=
g original paint.  Does anyone have knowledge of this particular Triumph col=
or that they can share?=20
>> Was it just a bright white?  It sure looks bright, but no evidence of any=
 pearl.=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">That=E2=80=99s exactly what I was thinking.=
 Not really a pearl white. &nbsp;It would still be interesting to know if so=
meone has determined the correct color besides what it=E2=80=99s called by T=
riumph.&nbsp;<div>Dave H.&nbsp;<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D=
"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jan 7, 2021, at 8:38 P=
M, W Beecher &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
m</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><!-=
-[if gte mso 9]><xml><o:OfficeDocumentSettings><o:AllowPNG/><o:PixelsPerInch=
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I don=E2=80=99t know but I would doubt TR was using any metallics or pearles=
cent paints back then. &nbsp;It may turn out to be their version of Old Engl=
ish White.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Bill<br><br><br><a href=3D"https://apps.=
apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661">Sent from Yahoo f=
or iPhone</a><br><br><p class=3D"yahoo-quoted-begin" style=3D"font-size: 15p=
x; color: #715FFA; padding-top: 15px; margin-top: 0">On Thursday, January 7,=
 2021, 9:53 PM, Dave &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">dlhogye@comc=
ast.net</a>&gt; wrote:</p><blockquote class=3D"iosymail"><div id=3D"yiv95337=
61756"><div>
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;colo=
r:#333333;">
   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt;">Thanks Bill,</span>=

  </div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;colo=
r:#333333;">
   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt;">This chart looks li=
ke good information.&nbsp;</span>
  </div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;colo=
r:#333333;">
   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt;">While trying to mat=
ch Primrose/Pale Yellow on my '59 TR3, the numbers didn't translate to avail=
able modern paint.&nbsp; I settled on using the later '68 Jasmine to get a c=
ode.&nbsp; A computer read on the Primrose listed a VW Beetle convertible co=
lor named, if I remember correctly, Mello Yellow, which looks right on, when=
 I see one of these cars on the road.</span>
  </div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;colo=
r:#333333;">
   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt;">I'm just wondering i=
f there was really any pearlescent in the original white.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>=

  </div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;colo=
r:#333333;">
   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt;">Is it obvious and o=
r look very pearlescent?&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>
  </div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;colo=
r:#333333;">
   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt;">Dave H.</span>
  </div>=20
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;colo=
r:#333333;">
   &nbsp;
  </div>=20
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   <div class=3D"yiv9533761756yqt5764227427" id=3D"yiv9533761756yqtfd50206">=
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    On 01/07/2021 7:35 PM bill beecher &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:notakitcar@yaho=
o.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
   </div>=20
   <div>
    &nbsp;
   </div>=20
   <div>
    &nbsp;
   </div> Dave,=20
   <div>
    Try this site, gives a couple of paint codes for Pearl White, depending o=
n the year.&nbsp;
   </div>=20
   <div>
    &nbsp;
   </div>=20
   <div>
    <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank"=
 href=3D"http://www.trregisterfrance.com/meca/paint.htm">http://www.trregist=
erfrance.com/meca/paint.htm</a>
    <br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">Bill
   </div>=20
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Hi Dave,

Actually, Triumph was using metallic colors at least as early as 1949. =
>From the Roadster Club archives, the =E2=80=9949 color choices included:

=20

=20

=20

COLOUR SCHEMES FOR THE 2000 ROADSTER: From 1949 Sales Brochure.=20

Lumina Green, LuminaChampagne, Grey, Lumina Grey, Black=20

=20

>From the same article:

TheTriumph "Lumina" colours were among the first metallic finishes =
offered on a production car. The actual colours were darker than onmany =
current Roadster resprays. Some originalspecimens survive to support =
this view although it is possible that they may have darkened with age. =
Nevertheless, many consider that the lighter shades now being chosen are =
more attractive

=20

I also came across some color charts from back in the day, I =
don=E2=80=99t know what good they are, but they are attached.

=20

Bob

=20

=20

From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
Dave Hogye
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2021 8:58 PM
To: W Beecher
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] TR2 pearl white

=20

That=E2=80=99s exactly what I was thinking. Not really a pearl white.  =
It would still be interesting to know if someone has determined the =
correct color besides what it=E2=80=99s called by Triumph.=20

Dave H.=20

Sent from my iPhone

I don=E2=80=99t know but I would doubt TR was using any metallics or =
pearlescent paints back then.  It may turn out to be their version of =
Old English White.=20

=20

Bill

Sent from Yahoo for iPhone =
<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661> =

Thanks Bill,=20

While trying to match Primrose/Pale Yellow on my '59 TR3, the numbers =
didn't translate to available modern paint.  I settled on using the =
later '68 Jasmine to get a code.  A computer read on the Primrose listed =
a VW Beetle convertible color named, if I remember correctly, Mello =
Yellow, which looks right on, when I see one of these cars on the road.=20

I'm just wondering if there was really any pearlescent in the original =
white.  =20

Dave H.=20

 =20

On 01/07/2021 7:35 PM bill beecher <[email-masked]> wrote:=20

 =20

 =20

Dave,=20

Try this site, gives a couple of paint codes for Pearl White, depending =
on the year. =20

 =20

Bill=20

=20

#dontkillgrandma=20

Hello TR listers,=20
I have a TR2 long door that was originally pearl white with blue =
interior.   I haven't found any pearl or hint of any metallic in any of =
the remaining original paint.  Does anyone have knowledge of this =
particular Triumph color that they can share?=20
Was it just a bright white?  It sure looks bright, but no evidence of =
any pearl.=20
Dave H.=20
Sent from my iPad=20
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Hi Dave,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Actually, Triumph was using metallic colors at least as early as =
1949. From the Roadster Club archives, the =E2=80=9949 color choices =
included:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>COLOUR SCHEMES FOR =
THE 2000 ROADSTER: From 1949 Sales Brochure. <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Lumina Green, LuminaChampagne, Grey, Lumina Grey, =
Black <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>From the same article:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>TheTriumph &quot;Lumina&quot; colours were among the =
first metallic finishes offered on a production car. The actual colours =
were darker than onmany current Roadster resprays. Some =
originalspecimens survive to support this view although it is possible =
that they may have darkened with age. Nevertheless, many consider that =
the lighter shades now being chosen are more attractive<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I also came =
across some color charts from back in the day, I don=E2=80=99t know what =
good they are, but they are attached.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Bob<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Dave Hogye<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 07, 2021 8:58 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> W Beecher<br><b>Cc:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR2 pearl =
white<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>That=E2=80=99s exactly what I was thinking. Not really =
a pearl white. &nbsp;It would still be interesting to know if someone =
has determined the correct color besides what it=E2=80=99s called by =
Triumph.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Dave H.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my =
iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Jan 7, 2021, at 8:38 PM, W Beecher =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I don=E2=80=99t know but I would doubt TR was using =
any metallics or pearlescent paints back then. &nbsp;It may turn out to =
be their version of Old English White.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Bill<br><br><br><a =
href=3D"https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id6461=
00661">Sent from Yahoo for iPhone</a><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dyahoo-quoted-begin style=3D'margin-top:0in'><span =
style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;color:#715FFA'>On Thursday, January 7, 2021, =
9:53 PM, Dave &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div =
id=3Dyiv9533761756><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>Thanks =
Bill, <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>This chart =
looks like good information.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>While =
trying to match Primrose/Pale Yellow on my '59 TR3, the numbers didn't =
translate to available modern paint.&nbsp; I settled on using the later =
'68 Jasmine to get a code.&nbsp; A computer read on the Primrose listed =
a VW Beetle convertible color named, if I remember correctly, Mello =
Yellow, which looks right on, when I see one of these cars on the road. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>I'm just =
wondering if there was really any pearlescent in the original =
white.&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>Is it =
obvious and or look very pearlescent?&nbsp;&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>Dave H. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div =
id=3Dyiv9533761756yqtfd50206><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On 01/07/2021 =
7:35 PM bill beecher &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote: =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Dave, <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Try this site, gives a couple of paint codes for Pearl =
White, depending on the year.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"http://www.trregisterfrance.com/meca/paint.htm" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.trregisterfrance.com/meca/paint.htm</a> =
<br><br>Bill <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>#dontkillgrandma <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Jan 7, 2021, at =
7:54 PM, Dave &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote: =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hello TR listers, <br>I =
have a TR2 long door that was originally pearl white with blue interior. =
&nbsp;&nbsp;I haven't found any pearl or hint of any metallic in any of =
the remaining original paint. &nbsp;Does anyone have knowledge of this =
particular Triumph color that they can share? <br>Was it just a bright =
white? &nbsp;It sure looks bright, but no evidence of any pearl. =
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From: Jim Stevens <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 14:31:50 -0500

Nah, there’s no metallic nor pearlescence in it.  I just did completed a restoration in that color.  Closest modern color code my painter could find was a Toyota color from the 70’s, which others on our list have used.  

> On Jan 7, 2021, at 8:53 PM, Dave <[email-masked]> wrote:
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Volkswagen in the 60s had a color called Pearl White That was just a cream
white color - no swirly pearly like modern paint.

On Fri, Jan 8, 2021, 14:32 Jim Stevens <[email-masked]> wrote:

>  Nah, there=E2=80=99s no metallic nor pearlescence in it.  I just did com=
pleted a
> restoration in that color.  Closest modern color code my painter could fi=
nd
> was a Toyota color from the 70=E2=80=99s, which others on our list have u=
sed.
> > I have a TR2 long door that was originally pearl white with blue
> interior.   I haven't found any pearl or hint of any metallic in any of t=
he
> remaining original paint.  Does anyone have knowledge of this particular
> Triumph color that they can share?
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<div dir=3D"auto">Volkswagen in the 60s had a color called Pearl White That=
 was just a cream white color - no swirly pearly like modern paint.</div><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, =
Jan 8, 2021, 14:32 Jim Stevens &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">s=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
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=C2=A0Nah, there=E2=80=99s no metallic nor pearlescence in it.=C2=A0 I just=
 did completed a restoration in that color.=C2=A0 Closest modern color code=
 my painter could find was a Toyota color from the 70=E2=80=99s, which othe=
rs on our list have used.=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
&gt; On Jan 7, 2021, at 8:53 PM, Dave &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dlhogye@comcast=
.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; =EF=BB=BFHello TR listers,<br>
&gt; I have a TR2 long door that was originally pearl white with blue inter=
ior.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I haven&#39;t found any pearl or hint of any metallic in a=
ny of the remaining original paint.=C2=A0 Does anyone have knowledge of thi=
s particular Triumph color that they can share? <br>
&gt; Was it just a bright white?=C2=A0 It sure looks bright, but no evidenc=
e of any pearl.<br>
&gt; Dave H. <br>
&gt; Sent from my iPad<br>
&gt; <br>
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From: Dave <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 19:03:46 -0800 (PST)

Thanks Jim.
Good to know.
Dave H.

> On 01/08/2021 11:31 AM Jim Stevens <[email-masked]> wrote:
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