Subject: Re: [TR] TR4

From: Michael Burdick <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2021 10:27:55 -0600

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FWIW, I have 2 '64 TR4s (CT28xxx and CT35xxx) and both have ZS carbs with
the same crankcase vent system (valve cover vent into "flame trap"
branching into the air filter housings).  My assumption was that this set
up was implemented for the 1964 model year only...

Cheers,
Mike

On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 9:47 AM dave <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Here is an interesting video of a TR4 engine refresh.  Wish I could do it
> that quickly!!!
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D1GAl_ScYOOY
>
>
>
> it look like an early car =E2=80=93 it has the round engine mounts, but i=
t also
> has ZS carbs.
>
>
>
> Clearly I was wrong =E2=80=93 I thought the ZS didn=E2=80=99t appear unti=
l the TR4a
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<div dir=3D"ltr">FWIW, I have 2 &#39;64 TR4s (CT28xxx and CT35xxx) and both=
 have ZS carbs with the same crankcase vent system (valve cover vent into &=
quot;flame trap&quot; branching into the air filter housings).=C2=A0 My ass=
umption was that this set up was implemented for the 1964 model year only..=
.<div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Mike</div></div><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 9:=
47 AM dave &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lan=
g=3D"EN-US" style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class=3D"gmail-m_1586=
514425795871951WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Here is an interesting =
video of a TR4 engine refresh.=C2=A0 Wish I could do it that quickly!!!<u><=
/u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><a href=3D"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D1GAl_ScYOOY" target=
=3D"_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D1GAl_ScYOOY</a><u></u><u></u>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">i=
t look like an early car =E2=80=93 it has the round engine mounts, but it a=
lso has ZS carbs.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u><=
/u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Clearly I was wrong =E2=80=93 I thought the Z=
S didn=E2=80=99t appear until the TR4a<u></u><u></u></p></div></div>** <a h=
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From: Bob <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2021 13:05:30 -0500

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Hello,

When I restored my 63 4 I installed SU HS6 carbs. It came with regular 
H6s but I decided it was easier to get a set off of ebay than to send 
them out for rebuild. No problems for well over 15 years. Crankcase vent 
system same as my 3.

Bob

On 1/16/21 10:47 AM, dave wrote:
>
> Here is an interesting video of a TR4 engine refresh.  Wish I could do 
> it that quickly!!!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GAl_ScYOOY
>
> it look like an early car – it has the round engine mounts, but it 
> also has ZS carbs.
>
> Clearly I was wrong – I thought the ZS didn’t appear until the TR4a
>
>

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    <p>Hello,</p>
    <p>When I restored my 63 4 I installed SU HS6 carbs. It came with
      regular H6s but I decided it was easier to get a set off of ebay
      than to send them out for rebuild. No problems for well over 15
      years. Crankcase vent system same as my 3. <br>
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    <p>Bob<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/16/21 10:47 AM, dave wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Clearly I was wrong – I thought the ZS
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2021 14:35:31 -0500

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TR4s started with SU H6 carbs, did a trial run of ZS carbs (1000 I =
think), then went back to H6s before they switched to ZS for a longer =
run. Eventually the ZS carbs were replaced by the SU HS6 carb for the =
rest of the TR4A run. Somewhere in my notes I have the dates and the VIN =
numbers. I am happy to dig them out if anyone really cares =F0=9F=98=8A =
I have the H6 carbs on my 57 TR3 (John Swauger=E2=80=99s uncle=E2=80=99s =
car) and HS6 carbs on my 62 TR4 and 67 TR4A. Obviously the HS6 carbs are =
not original to this early TR4.

=20

Keith Stewart

[email-masked]

=20

=20

=20

From: dave <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: January 16, 2021 10:47 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [TR] TR4

=20

Here is an interesting video of a TR4 engine refresh.  Wish I could do =
it that quickly!!!

=20

=20

it look like an early car =E2=80=93 it has the round engine mounts, but =
it also has ZS carbs.

=20

Clearly I was wrong =E2=80=93 I thought the ZS didn=E2=80=99t appear =
until the TR4a

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style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>TR4s started with SU H6 carbs, did =
a trial run of ZS carbs (1000 I think), then went back to H6s before =
they switched to ZS for a longer run. Eventually the ZS carbs were =
replaced by the SU HS6 carb for the rest of the TR4A run. Somewhere in =
my notes I have the dates and the VIN numbers. I am happy to dig them =
out if anyone really cares </span><span style=3D'font-family:"Segoe UI =
Emoji",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>&#128522;</span><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> I have the H6 carbs on my 57 TR3 =
(John Swauger=E2=80=99s uncle=E2=80=99s car) and HS6 carbs on my 62 TR4 =
and 67 TR4A. Obviously the HS6 carbs are not original to this early =
TR4.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Keith Stewart<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>[email-masked]<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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v style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> dave =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> January 16, 2021 10:47 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> [TR] =
TR4<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Here is an interesting video of a TR4 engine refresh.&nbsp; =
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class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>it look like an early car =E2=80=93 =
it has the round engine mounts, but it also has ZS =
carbs.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Clearly I was wrong =E2=80=93 I thought the ZS =
didn=E2=80=99t appear until the =
TR4a<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>
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