Subject: Re: [TR] TR4

From: James B Mills <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 01:12:46 -0800

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Thanks Bob.

Jim Mills

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 17, 2021, at 9:35 AM, Triumph <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> =EF=BB=BF
> Just found a guy named Elin Yakov that has series of 6 20 minute or so You=
Tube videos that speak to your concerns.
> The engine starts already disassembled so the videos only concern reassemb=
ly and afterwards.
> It looks pretty thorough. Here is the link to the first.   https://www.you=
tube.com/watch?v=3D0O2ntv1dJP0
> =20
> As for the Wheeler Dealers TR4 episode, I have seen the whole show twice n=
ow and was glad they did something of direct interest to me.
> However I noticed a couple of points that I took issue with. First, I have=
 the same Marx rear seal and per the instructions the aluminum halves are su=
pposed to be centered with the supplied tool without the crank being in the w=
ay and Ant didn=E2=80=99t do it that way.  Second, Ant should really learn t=
he difference between an alternator and a generator. Entertaining either way=
. LOL
> =20
> Bob Maassel
> 59 TR3A Megasquirt Fuel Injected plus numerous other upgrades.
> =20
> From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of James=
 B Mills
> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 5:14 PM
> To: [email-masked]
> Cc: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR4
> =20
> I enjoyed the video, but feel it lacked a real disassembly/reassembly desc=
ription.  My =E2=80=9863 TR4 is in my garage - in pieces, including the engi=
ne.  I took it completely apart with the intention of a complete restoration=
 (not to the level of competing at shows - want to drive it again, like I di=
d when I was 26 [am 76 now].  The reassembly task is very intimidating for f=
ear I=E2=80=99ll screw it up.  Are there other videos out there that that sh=
ow a complete reassembly?  Also, for you folks that have the valve cover ven=
t to carb filters:  there are no filters to accommodate that.  How have othe=
rs handled this?  My car is a SoCal TR4, and model was listed by the DMV as a=
 1965 because that was the year it was 1st registered (CA law).  CT37815 L
> =20
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jan 16, 2021, at 11:39 AM, [email-masked] wrote:
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> =EF=BB=BF
> TR4s started with SU H6 carbs, did a trial run of ZS carbs (1000 I think),=
 then went back to H6s before they switched to ZS for a longer run. Eventual=
ly the ZS carbs were replaced by the SU HS6 carb for the rest of the TR4A ru=
n. Somewhere in my notes I have the dates and the VIN numbers. I am happy to=
 dig them out if anyone really cares =F0=9F=98=8A I have the H6 carbs on my 5=
7 TR3 (John Swauger=E2=80=99s uncle=E2=80=99s car) and HS6 carbs on my 62 TR=
4 and 67 TR4A. Obviously the HS6 carbs are not original to this early TR4.
> =20
> Keith Stewart
> [email-masked]
> =20
> =20
> =20
> From: dave <[email-masked]>=20
> Sent: January 16, 2021 10:47 AM
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: [TR] TR4
> =20
> Here is an interesting video of a TR4 engine refresh.  Wish I could do it t=
hat quickly!!!
> =20
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D1GAl_ScYOOY
> =20
> it look like an early car =E2=80=93 it has the round engine mounts, but it=
 also has ZS carbs.
> =20
> Clearly I was wrong =E2=80=93 I thought the ZS didn=E2=80=99t appear until=
 the TR4a
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utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Thanks Bob.<div><br></div><div>Jim Mills<br=
><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite">On Jan 17, 2021, at 9:35 AM, Triumph &lt;tr3abobm77@fronti=
er.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div d=
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oNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Just found a guy named Elin Yakov tha=
t has series of 6 20 minute or so YouTube videos that speak to your concerns=
. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"=
>The engine starts already disassembled so the videos only concern reassembl=
y and afterwards.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"color:#1F497D">It looks pretty thorough. Here is the link to the first.&nbs=
p;&nbsp; <a href=3D"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D0O2ntv1dJP0">https://w=
ww.youtube.com/watch?v=3D0O2ntv1dJP0</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">As for the Wheeler Dealers TR4 epi=
sode, I have seen the whole show twice now and was glad they did something o=
f direct interest to me. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"color:#1F497D">However I noticed a couple of points that I took issu=
e with. First, I have the same Marx rear seal and per the instructions the a=
luminum halves are supposed to be centered with the supplied tool without th=
e crank being in the way and Ant didn=E2=80=99t do it that way. &nbsp;Second=
, Ant should really learn the difference between an alternator and a generat=
or. Entertaining either way. LOL<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Bob Maassel<o:p></o:p></span></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">59 TR3A Megasquirt Fuel Inject=
ed plus numerous other upgrades.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D=
"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked].=
net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>James B Mills<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 16,=
 2021 5:14 PM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Cc:</b> triumphs@aut=
ox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR4<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I enjoyed the v=
ideo, but feel it lacked a real disassembly/reassembly description. &nbsp;My=
 =E2=80=9863 TR4 is in my garage - in pieces, including the engine. &nbsp;I t=
ook it completely apart with the intention of a complete restoration (not to=
 the level of competing at shows - want to drive it again, like I did when I=
 was 26 [am 76 now]. &nbsp;The reassembly task is very intimidating for fear=
 I=E2=80=99ll screw it up. &nbsp;Are there other videos out there that that s=
how a complete reassembly? &nbsp;Also, for you folks that have the valve cov=
er vent to carb filters: &nbsp;there are no filters to accommodate that. &nb=
sp;How have others handled this? &nbsp;My car is a SoCal TR4, and model was l=
isted by the DMV as a 1965 because that was the year it was 1st registered (=
CA law). &nbsp;CT37815 L<span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span><=
/p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al">Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>=
<br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt=
"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Jan 16, 2021, at 1=
1:39 AM, <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> w=
rote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt=
;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=EF=BB=BF<span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif"><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">TR4s started with SU H6 carbs, did a trial ru=
n of ZS carbs (1000 I think), then went back to H6s before they switched to Z=
S for a longer run. Eventually the ZS carbs were replaced by the SU HS6 carb=
 for the rest of the TR4A run. Somewhere in my notes I have the dates and th=
e VIN numbers. I am happy to dig them out if anyone really cares <span style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;Segoe UI Emoji&quot;,sans-serif">=F0=9F=98=8A</span> I=
 have the H6 carbs on my 57 TR3 (John Swauger=E2=80=99s uncle=E2=80=99s car)=
 and HS6 carbs on my 62 TR4 and 67 TR4A. Obviously the HS6 carbs are not ori=
ginal to this early TR4.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o=
:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Keith Stewart<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><o:p>=
</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><div s=
tyle=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in=
"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> dave &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@rantee=
r.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> January 16, 2021 10:47 AM<b=
r><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked].=
net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [TR] TR4<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Here is an interesting v=
ideo of a TR4 engine refresh.&nbsp; Wish I could do it that quickly!!!<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<a href=3D"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D1GAl_ScYOOY">https://www.youtub=
e.com/watch?v=3D1GAl_ScYOOY</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<=
o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">it look like an early car =E2=80=93 it h=
as the round engine mounts, but it also has ZS carbs.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Clearly I was wro=
ng =E2=80=93 I thought the ZS didn=E2=80=99t appear until the TR4a<o:p></o:p=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quo=
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