Subject: Re: [TR] Power steering rack questions

From: Darrell Walker <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 14:48:13 -0800

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The TR8 did.

Some info from the Wedge X-ref list =
(http://wedgelist.triumphwedgeowners.org/crossref/ =
<http://wedgelist.triumphwedgeowners.org/crossref/>)  :

Application:                          TR8
Triumph Part #:                   RKC971 ,  ( ERC2312  ??)
Other Part #=E2=80=99s:                     Checkers  20-840,  AutoZone =
7253, 7250,  Powercraft 18811,  MPN #SP17253, Everco 2315
Other Vehicles:
References:                          WWWedge e-mail list, TR8CCA =
newsletter, jclaythompson=E2=80=99s web site, ebay
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Comments: =20
Fluid reservoir may need to be swapped from the original, as does the =
pressure relief spring.
=20
See: TR8CCA newsletter: issue 44 (pg 4)  Powercraft 18811 available from =
Kragen, Schucks, Checker.
See: TR8CCA newsletter: issue 45 (pg 3), Automotive Parts Associated =
Part # 20-840.
See: TR8CCA newsletter: issue 53 (pg 6)  Everco 2315 replacement part.
=20
=E2=80=9CYou might save yourself some trouble by replacing the pump with =
a fairly easily sourced replacement. The pump appears to be your basic =
Saginaw SAE pump. Part number cross at Checkers is 20840,   Autozone PN =
7253,  Powercraft #18811.  You will have to swap out reservoir but you =
are half way there.=E2=80=9D =20
 =E2=80=93 Dave Massey (August, 2015)

-Darrell

> On Jan 7, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Sujit Roy <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> Did the TR7 and TR8 use power steering and if so, did they use a =
Saginaw pump? I have a Stag.
> If it cross references to a US car, does anyone have a reference?=20
> Sujit=20
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>The TR8 did.<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Some info from the Wedge X-ref list (<a =
href=3D"http://wedgelist.triumphwedgeowners.org/crossref/" =
class=3D"">http://wedgelist.triumphwedgeowners.org/crossref/</a>) =
&nbsp;:</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: medium; font-family: =
&quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif; background-color: white;" =
class=3D""><b class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Application:</span></b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</sp=
an><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">TR8</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: medium; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif; =
background-color: white;" class=3D""><b class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">Triumph Part #:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; RKC971 ,&nbsp; =
(&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">ERC2312&nbsp; ??)</span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; line-height: normal; background-color: white;" =
class=3D""><b class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;" class=3D"">Other=
 Part #=E2=80=99s:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size: =
10pt;" class=3D"">Checkers&nbsp; 20-840,&nbsp; AutoZone 7253, =
7250,&nbsp; Powercraft 18811,&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size: =
10pt;" class=3D"">MPN #SP17253, Everco 2315</span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; line-height: normal;" class=3D""><b class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt;" class=3D"">Other =
Vehicles:</span></b></div><div style=3D"margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; line-height: normal;" =
class=3D""><b class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;" =
class=3D"">References:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; WWWedge =
e-mail list, TR8CCA newsletter,&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size: =
10pt;" class=3D"">jclaythompson=E2=80=99s web site, ebay</span><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt;" class=3D""></span></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; line-height: normal;"><span style=3D"font-size: =
10pt;" class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></p><div style=3D"margin: 0mm 0mm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; =
line-height: normal;" class=3D""><b class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
10pt;" class=3D"">Comments:&nbsp;</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: =
10pt;" class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0mm 0mm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; =
line-height: normal;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;" =
class=3D"">Fluid reservoir may need to be swapped from the original, as =
does the pressure relief spring.</span></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0mm 0mm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; line-height: normal;"><span style=3D"font-size: =
10pt;" class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></p><div style=3D"margin: 0mm 0mm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; =
line-height: normal;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;" =
class=3D"">See: TR8CCA newsletter:&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size: =
10pt;" class=3D"">issue 44 (pg 4)&nbsp; Powercraft 18811 available from =
Kragen, Schucks, Checker.</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0mm 0mm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; =
line-height: normal;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;" =
class=3D"">See: TR8CCA newsletter: issue 45 (pg 3), Automotive Parts =
Associated Part # 20-840.</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0mm 0mm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; =
line-height: normal;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;" =
class=3D"">See: TR8CCA newsletter:&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size: =
10pt;" class=3D"">issue 53 (pg 6)&nbsp; Everco 2315 replacement =
part.</span></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0mm 0mm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; =
line-height: normal;"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></p><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">=E2=80=9CYou might save yourself some trouble by =
replacing the pump with a fairly easily sourced replacement. The pump =
appears to be your basic Saginaw SAE pump. Part number cross at Checkers =
is 20840,&nbsp; &nbsp;Autozone PN 7253, &nbsp;Powercraft #18811.&nbsp; =
You will have to swap out reservoir but you are half way =
there.=E2=80=9D&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><pre style=3D"margin: 0mm 0mm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;=E2=80=93 Dave Massey (August, 2015)</span></pre><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">-Darrell</div><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jan =
7, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Sujit Roy &lt;<a =
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class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"">Did the TR7 and TR8 use power steering&nbsp;and if so, did =
they use a Saginaw pump? I have a Stag.<div class=3D"">If it cross =
references&nbsp;to a US car, does anyone&nbsp;have a =
reference?&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">Sujit&nbsp;<br clear=3D"all" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>-- <br class=3D""><div =
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class=3D"">Sujit Roy<br class=3D"">Cupertino, California</div><div =
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From: James Childs <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 23:50:37 +0000 (UTC)

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 Sujit,
I know that the TR8 had Power Steering while the TR7 did not.=C2=A0 Not sur=
e about the actual pump used with the TR8.
Tony Childs1972 Triumph Spitfire MKIV1973 Triumph Stag
    On Thursday, January 7, 2021, 05:45:48 PM EST, Sujit Roy <triumphstag@g=
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 Did the TR7 and TR8 use power steering=C2=A0and if so, did they use a Sagi=
naw pump? I have a Stag.If it cross references=C2=A0to a US car, does anyon=
e=C2=A0have a reference?=C2=A0Sujit=C2=A0

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        <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Sujit,</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I know that the TR8 had Power Steering while the TR7 did not.&nbsp; Not sure about the actual pump used with the TR8.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Tony Childs</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">1972 Triumph Spitfire MKIV</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">1973 Triumph Stag</div><div><br></div>
        
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                <div><div id="yiv7311032280"><div dir="ltr">Did the TR7 and TR8 use power steering&nbsp;and if so, did they use a Saginaw pump? I have a Stag.<div>If it cross references&nbsp;to a US car, does anyone&nbsp;have a reference?&nbsp;</div><div>Sujit&nbsp;<br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="yiv7311032280gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Sujit Roy<br>Cupertino, California</div><div><br><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" href="https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/">https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/</a><br><br></div></div></div></div></div>
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 00:15:21 +0000 (UTC)

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 The TR7 had a manual rack but the TR8 had power steering and uses the Sagi=
naw pump (probably out of the same parts bin).=C2=A0 I don't know how simil=
ar the other parts are.=C2=A0 The rack may be the same or it may have diffe=
rent mounts and the hoses may be configured differently depending on where =
the pump is mounted on the engine.=C2=A0 Attached is a picture of a TR8 eng=
ine.=C2=A0 Note that the pump is mounted on the lower-right.
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From: Sujit Roy <[email-masked]>
To: Triumphs <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thu, Jan 7, 2021 4:43 pm
Subject: [TR] Power steering rack questions

Did the TR7 and TR8 use power steering=C2=A0and if so, did they use a Sagin=
aw pump? I have a Stag.If it cross references=C2=A0to a US car, does anyone=
=C2=A0have a reference?=C2=A0Sujit=C2=A0

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<div> <font size="3">The TR7 had a manual rack but the TR8 had power steering and uses the Saginaw pump (probably out of the same parts bin).&nbsp; I don't know how similar the other parts are.&nbsp; The rack may be the same or it may have different mounts and the hoses may be configured differently depending on where the pump is mounted on the engine.&nbsp; Attached is a picture of a TR8 engine.&nbsp; Note that the pump is mounted on the lower-right.</font><br>
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<div> <br>
</div>

<div style="clear:both"><font size="4">Dave </font><br>
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To: Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Thu, Jan 7, 2021 4:43 pm<br>
Subject: [TR] Power steering rack questions<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Did the TR7 and TR8 use power steering&nbsp;and if so, did they use a Saginaw pump? I have a Stag.
<div>If it cross references&nbsp;to a US car, does anyone&nbsp;have a reference?&nbsp;</div>

<div>Sujit&nbsp;<br clear="all">
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The part no. mentioned for the TR8  is similar to what I've been told the
Stag uses. But you have to swap out the reservoir. The Stag's pump has 1
inlet and 1 outlet. What I'm seeing from some Google searches is that
there are many pumps which  look similar but have 3 ports. I'm not sure
what that is about. I rebuilt my Stag's one for about $12 with a kit.
it's simple enough and there are so many YouTube videos out there. Im
trying to look for another cheap one to make a test rig.

Sujit

On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 4:15 PM DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> wrote:

> The TR7 had a manual rack but the TR8 had power steering and uses the
> Saginaw pump (probably out of the same parts bin).  I don't know how
> similar the other parts are.  The rack may be the same or it may have
> different mounts and the hoses may be configured differently depending on
> where the pump is mounted on the engine.  Attached is a picture of a TR8
> engine.  Note that the pump is mounted on the lower-right.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> Did the TR7 and TR8 use power steering and if so, did they use a Saginaw
> pump? I have a Stag.
> If it cross references to a US car, does anyone have a reference?
> Sujit
>
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> Cupertino, California
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<div dir=3D"ltr">The part no. mentioned for the TR8=C2=A0 is similar to wha=
t I&#39;ve been told the Stag uses. But you have to swap out the reservoir.=
 The Stag&#39;s pump has 1 inlet and 1 outlet. What I&#39;m seeing=C2=A0fro=
m some Google searches=C2=A0is that there=C2=A0are many pumps which=C2=A0=
=C2=A0look=C2=A0similar but have 3 ports. I&#39;m not sure what that is abo=
ut. I rebuilt my Stag&#39;s one for about $12 with a kit. it&#39;s=C2=A0sim=
ple enough and there are so many YouTube videos out there. Im trying=C2=A0t=
o look for another cheap one to make a test rig.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>S=
ujit</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gm=
ail_attr">On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 4:15 PM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px so=
lid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"color:black;font:12pt Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<div> <font size=3D"3">The TR7 had a manual rack but the TR8 had power stee=
ring and uses the Saginaw pump (probably out of the same parts bin).=C2=A0 =
I don&#39;t know how similar the other parts are.=C2=A0 The rack may be the=
 same or it may have different mounts and the hoses may be configured diffe=
rently depending on where the pump is mounted on the engine.=C2=A0 Attached=
 is a picture of a TR8 engine.=C2=A0 Note that the pump is mounted on the l=
ower-right.</font><br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

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