Subject: Re: [TR] Valve train noise

From: bill beecher <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 13:11:20 -0600

Bob,
Have you re-checked the clearance at full operating temperature?  .010” cold, also, and it is a little messy, are you getting good oil flow to the rockers?

The TR motors aren’t the quietest to start with, TR4 in my TR3, TR3 in the Plus Four. 
Bill

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On Nov 13, 2020, at 1:00 PM, Bob Nogueira <[email-masked]> wrote:

Folk, a couple of years ago I did a total rebuild of my TR4 engine. It has been running well but has the valves do make more noise than I experienced in the past . Checking the valve clearance it is spot on. Once the engine has been running for 30 to 45 minutes the noise is much louder.
Oil pressure is solid at 30 to 70 PSI. Engine temp stays at 170 (f). Oil is 20-50 Valvoline Racing Oil. 
The rockers are from my spare engine. Head had all new valves (Stainless) and New bronze guides which were reamed with a bit more tolerance. Re ground cam and new lifters. 
Any suggestions on tracking down the cause of the noise?

Bob Nogueira 
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From: "Kinderlehrer" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 11:13:28 -0800

Could be those rockers. They can wear in the center where the push rods make
contact making a measurement with a flat feeler gauge inaccurate.
Bob 

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Nogueira
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 10:54 AM
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Subject: [TR] Valve train noise

Folk, a couple of years ago I did a total rebuild of my TR4 engine. It has
been running well but has the valves do make more noise than I experienced
in the past . Checking the valve clearance it is spot on. Once the engine
has been running for 30 to 45 minutes the noise is much louder.
Oil pressure is solid at 30 to 70 PSI. Engine temp stays at 170 (f). Oil is
20-50 Valvoline Racing Oil. 
The rockers are from my spare engine. Head had all new valves (Stainless)
and New bronze guides which were reamed with a bit more tolerance. Re ground
cam and new lifters. 
Any suggestions on tracking down the cause of the noise?

Bob Nogueira 

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From: bill beecher <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 13:51:33 -0600

If you need them, BPNW, rocker shaft bushing .78ea, need 16 of them.  
Bill

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 Or just the age of the rockers.=C2=A0 They start out with a nice rounded c=
ontact area where they contact the top of the valve stem but over time they=
 get a flat spot pounded into them which can cause them to make for more cl=
atter.=C2=A0=20
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Subject: Re: [TR] Valve train noise

Could be those rockers. They can wear in the center where the push rods mak=
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contact making a measurement with a flat feeler gauge inaccurate.
Bob=20

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Folk, a couple of years ago I did a total rebuild of my TR4 engine. It has
been running well but has the valves do make more noise than I experienced
in the past . Checking the valve clearance it is spot on. Once the engine
has been running for 30 to 45 minutes the noise is much louder.
Oil pressure is solid at 30 to 70 PSI. Engine temp stays at 170 (f). Oil is
20-50 Valvoline Racing Oil.=20
The rockers are from my spare engine. Head had all new valves (Stainless)
and New bronze guides which were reamed with a bit more tolerance. Re groun=
d
cam and new lifters.=20
Any suggestions on tracking down the cause of the noise?

Bob Nogueira=20

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<div> <font size=3D"3">Or just the age of the rockers.&nbsp; They start out=
 with a nice rounded contact area where they contact the top of the valve s=
tem but over time they get a flat spot pounded into them which can cause th=
em to make for more clatter.&nbsp; </font><br>
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Sent: Fri, Nov 13, 2020 1:13 pm<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Could be those rockers. They can wear in the center where =
the push rods make<br clear=3D"none">contact making a measurement with a fl=
at feeler gauge inaccurate.<br clear=3D"none">Bob <br clear=3D"none"><br cl=
ear=3D"none">-----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">From: Triumphs [m=
ailto:<a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
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t: Friday, November 13, 2020 10:54 AM<br clear=3D"none">To: Triumph List<br=
 clear=3D"none">Subject: [TR] Valve train noise<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
=3D"none">Folk, a couple of years ago I did a total rebuild of my TR4 engin=
e. It has<br clear=3D"none">been running well but has the valves do make mo=
re noise than I experienced<br clear=3D"none">in the past . Checking the va=
lve clearance it is spot on. Once the engine<br clear=3D"none">has been run=
ning for 30 to 45 minutes the noise is much louder.<br clear=3D"none">Oil p=
ressure is solid at 30 to 70 PSI. Engine temp stays at 170 (f). Oil is<br c=
lear=3D"none">20-50 Valvoline Racing Oil. <br clear=3D"none">The rockers ar=
e from my spare engine. Head had all new valves (Stainless)<br clear=3D"non=
e">and New bronze guides which were reamed with a bit more tolerance. Re gr=
ound<br clear=3D"none">cam and new lifters. <br clear=3D"none">Any suggesti=
ons on tracking down the cause of the noise?<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D=
"none">Bob Nogueira <br clear=3D"none">** <a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mail=
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Give http://triumphrescue.com/ a call or email. They did a wonderful job 
on my 3 engine awhile back. Located in PA. I am sure you could ship your 
rocker shaft to them and get a fast return.

If the noise is not from the rocker, maybe your chain tension-er is broken.

Bob

On 11/13/20 2:52 PM, DAVID MASSEY wrote:
> Or just the age of the rockers.  They start out with a nice rounded 
> contact area where they contact the top of the valve stem but over 
> time they get a flat spot pounded into them which can cause them to 
> make for more clatter.
>
> Dave
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      wonderful job on my 3 engine awhile back. Located in PA. I am sure
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    <p>If the noise is not from the rocker, maybe your chain tension-er
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            Folk, a couple of years ago I did a total rebuild of my TR4
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            I experienced<br clear="none">
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            Once the engine<br clear="none">
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            louder.<br clear="none">
            Oil pressure is solid at 30 to 70 PSI. Engine temp stays at
            170 (f). Oil is<br clear="none">
            20-50 Valvoline Racing Oil. <br clear="none">
            The rockers are from my spare engine. Head had all new
            valves (Stainless)<br clear="none">
            and New bronze guides which were reamed with a bit more
            tolerance. Re ground<br clear="none">
            cam and new lifters. <br clear="none">
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contact making a measurement with a flat feeler gauge inaccurate.<br>
Bob <br>
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Subject: [TR] Valve train noise<br>
<br>
Folk, a couple of years ago I did a total rebuild of my TR4 engine. It has<=
br>
been running well but has the valves do make more noise than I experienced<=
br>
in the past . Checking the valve clearance it is spot on. Once the engine<b=
r>
has been running for 30 to 45 minutes the noise is much louder.<br>
Oil pressure is solid at 30 to 70 PSI. Engine temp stays at 170 (f). Oil is=
<br>
20-50 Valvoline Racing Oil. <br>
The rockers are from my spare engine. Head had all new valves (Stainless)<b=
r>
and New bronze guides which were reamed with a bit more tolerance. Re groun=
d<br>
cam and new lifters. <br>
Any suggestions on tracking down the cause of the noise?<br>
<br>
Bob Nogueira <br>
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I don't, but I don't think that would solve the problem, unless you bent the
wire to conform to the contorted face on the rocker. You could try adjusting
them a little tighter than spec.

Bob

From: Cliff Hansen [mailto:[email-masked]] 
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 1:59 PM
To: Kinderlehrer; 'Bob Nogueira'; 'Triumph List'
Subject: RE: [TR] Valve train noise

Bob K,

Do you know of a source for a wire feeler gauge with 0.015" or 0.010"? I've
looked, couldn't find any. It seems the wire gauges are designed for plug
gapping, and minimums are ~0.02"

Thanks,

Cliff

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Cliff Hansen [mailto:[email-masked]] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, =
November 13, 2020 1:59 PM<br><b>To:</b> Kinderlehrer; 'Bob Nogueira'; =
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class=3DMsoNormal>Do you know of a source for a wire feeler gauge with =
0.015&#8221; or 0.010&#8221;? I&#8217;ve looked, couldn&#8217;t find =
any. It seems the wire gauges are designed for plug gapping, and =
minimums are ~0.02&#8221;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
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class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
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</b>Friday, November 13, 2020 12:18 PM<br><b>To: </b><a =
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class=3DMsoNormal>Could be those rockers. They can wear in the center =
where the push rods make<br>contact making a measurement with a flat =
feeler gauge inaccurate.<br>Bob <br><br>-----Original =
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train noise<br><br>Folk, a couple of years ago I did a total rebuild of =
my TR4 engine. It has<br>been running well but has the valves do make =
more noise than I experienced<br>in the past . Checking the valve =
clearance it is spot on. Once the engine<br>has been running for 30 to =
45 minutes the noise is much louder.<br>Oil pressure is solid at 30 to =
70 PSI. Engine temp stays at 170 (f). Oil is<br>20-50 Valvoline Racing =
Oil. <br>The rockers are from my spare engine. Head had all new valves =
(Stainless)<br>and New bronze guides which were reamed with a bit more =
tolerance. Re ground<br>cam and new lifters. <br>Any suggestions on =
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Try a machine shop supply house or business. I recently purchased very smal=
l O.D. wire gauges to set the slide clearances in my Kawasaki carburetors.

Sincerely,
Randall Reihing
1959 TR3A
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I don=92t, but I don=92t think that would solve the problem, unless you ben=
t the wire to conform to the contorted face on the rocker. You could try ad=
justing them a little tighter than spec.

Bob

Bob K,

Thanks,

Cliff

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m to the contorted face on the rocker. You could try adjusting them a littl=
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Bob</span></p>
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t-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Clif=
f Hansen [mailto:[email-masked]]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 13, 2020 1:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kinderlehrer; 'Bob Nogueira'; 'Triumph List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [TR] Valve train noise</span></p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">Bob K,</p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">Do you know of a source for a wire feeler gauge wi=
th 0.015=94 or 0.010=94? I=92ve looked, couldn=92t find any. It seems the w=
ire gauges are designed for plug gapping, and minimums are ~0.02=94</p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">Thanks,</p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">Cliff</p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:kinderlehrer@comcas=
t.net">Kinderlehrer</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Friday, November 13, 2020 12:18 PM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">'Bob Nogueira'</a>; <a hre=
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [TR] Valve train noise</p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">Could be those rockers. They can wear in the cente=
r where the push rods make<br>
contact making a measurement with a flat feeler gauge inaccurate.<br>
Bob <br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Triumphs [<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:t=
[email-masked]</a>] On Behalf Of Bob<br>
Nogueira<br>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 10:54 AM<br>
To: Triumph List<br>
Subject: [TR] Valve train noise<br>
<br>
Folk, a couple of years ago I did a total rebuild of my TR4 engine. It has<=
br>
been running well but has the valves do make more noise than I experienced<=
br>
in the past . Checking the valve clearance it is spot on. Once the engine<b=
r>
has been running for 30 to 45 minutes the noise is much louder.<br>
Oil pressure is solid at 30 to 70 PSI. Engine temp stays at 170 (f). Oil is=
<br>
20-50 Valvoline Racing Oil. <br>
The rockers are from my spare engine. Head had all new valves (Stainless)<b=
r>
and New bronze guides which were reamed with a bit more tolerance. Re groun=
d<br>
cam and new lifters. <br>
Any suggestions on tracking down the cause of the noise?<br>
<br>
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