Subject: [TR] How easy is it to get a Spitfire through a CA smog? Follow up questions

From: Sujit Roy <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 09:28:37 -0700

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Thanks for the answers. Here are a few follow up questions.
If the Smog parts were completely removed from the car and it needs it,
what is the  worst case cost wise to buy this stuff to get it though a
Smog? What workshop equipment would I need to buy and cost to make sure I
can get it close to passing a smog without having a repair shop tweek it to
pass a smog check? Also, are '74 year and earlier cars exempt from a smog
but  '75 on are not?

Regards, Sujit

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Thanks for the answers. Here are a=C2=A0few follow up=
 questions.</div><div>If the Smog parts were completely removed from the=C2=
=A0car and it needs it, what is the=C2=A0 worst case cost wise to buy this =
stuff to get it though a Smog? What workshop equipment would=C2=A0I need to=
 buy and cost to make sure I can get it close to passing=C2=A0a smog withou=
t having=C2=A0a repair shop tweek it to pass a smog check? Also, are &#39;7=
4 year and earlier cars exempt from a smog=C2=A0 but=C2=A0 &#39;75 on are n=
ot?</div><div><br></div><div>Regards, Sujit</div><div><br></div>-- <br><div=
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div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Sujit Roy<br>Cupertino, California</div><div><br><a hr=
ef=3D"https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/" target=3D"_blank">https://tri=
umphstagblog.wordpress.com/</a><br><br></div></div></div></div>

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Have a friend that loaded his Spit up four Mikunis, runs quite nice but for t=
he gearing that severely limits highway cruising.=20
B

On Oct 24, 2020, at 9:58 AM, John Macartney <[email-masked]> w=
rote:

=EF=BB=BFJeff,

Given that the 1500 with all the smog stuff fitted would be second place to a=
 Briggs and Stratton lawn mower engine, I think you=E2=80=99ll be in for a p=
leasant surprise. Enjoy

Jonmac

Bessie Braddock: =E2=80=9CWinston! You=E2=80=99re drunk=E2=80=9D.
Churchill: =E2=80=9Cand you, Madam, are ugly. But tomorrow, I shall be sober=
 but you will still be ugly=E2=80=9D.

On 24 Oct 2020, at 11:34, Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]> wrote:

> >  The 1500 engine is positively athsmatic and has always had breathing is=
sues in standard spec. No doubt there will be howls of protest in favour of t=
he 1500
>=20
> Well, I'm about to find out.  My short block has been cleaned up and balan=
ced, a lightened flywheel and slightly hotter cam has been purchased, and my=
 head is at a 1500 specialist having its breathing attended to.  Add a pair o=
f HS4s and the UK exhaust manifold, and it ought to be better than the origi=
nal US spec, anyway.  I will certainly have spent enough cubic dollars to go=
 at least a little faster...
>=20
> Jeff Scarbrough
> Corrosion Acres, Ga.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 1:51 PM John Macartney <[email-masked].=
uk> wrote:
>> Air pollution regs kicked in for 1968 build. Albeit very limited, the SU c=
arb proved a bit difficult to lean out and that=E2=80=99s why Spitfires from=
 either 1969 or 1970 model year used a single Stromberg. My personal opinion=
 is the Mk3 Spitfire with the 1296 8 port head is the Best Buy, hotly follow=
ed by the 1296 Mk4. The 1500 engine is positively athsmatic and has always h=
ad breathing issues in standard spec. No doubt there will be howls of protes=
t in favour of the 1500 but the many I=E2=80=99ve driven over years - rebuil=
t/cared for/completely knackered - were all the same, I.e. seriously disappo=
inting and that same engine in the Midget made that great little car somethi=
ng that is best forgotten.
>>=20
>> Jonmac
>>=20
>> Bessie Braddock: =E2=80=9CWinston! You=E2=80=99re drunk=E2=80=9D.
>> Churchill: =E2=80=9Cand you, Madam, are ugly. But tomorrow, I shall be so=
ber but you will still be ugly=E2=80=9D.
>>=20
>> On 23 Oct 2020, at 17:28, Sujit Roy <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>=20
>>> If the Smog parts were completely removed from the car and it needs it, w=
hat is the  worst case cost wise to buy this stuff to get it though a Smog? W=
hat workshop equipment would I need to buy and cost to make sure I can get i=
t close to passing a smog without having a repair shop tweek it to pass a sm=
og check? Also, are '74 year and earlier cars exempt from a smog  but  '75 o=
n are not?
>>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">Have a friend that loaded h=
is Spit up four Mikunis, runs quite nice but for the gearing that severely l=
imits highway cruising.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">B</div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<br>On Oct 24, 2020, at 9:58 AM, John Macartney &lt;[email-masked]=
g.uk&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"c=
ontent-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">Jeff,<div><br></div><div=
>Given that the 1500 with all the smog stuff fitted would be second place to=
 a Briggs and Stratton lawn mower engine, I think you=E2=80=99ll be in for a=
 pleasant surprise. Enjoy</div><div><br></div><div>Jonmac<br><br><div dir=3D=
"ltr">Bessie Braddock: =E2=80=9CWinston! You=E2=80=99re drunk=E2=80=9D.<div>=
Churchill: =E2=80=9Cand you, Madam, are ugly. But tomorrow, I shall be sober=
 but you will still be ugly=E2=80=9D.</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On 24 O=
ct 2020, at 11:34, Jeff Scarbrough &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp;

The 1500 engine is positively athsmatic and has always had breathing issues i=
n standard spec. No doubt there will be howls of protest in favour of the 15=
00<div><br></div><div>Well, I'm about to find out.&nbsp; My short block has b=
een cleaned up and balanced, a lightened flywheel and slightly hotter cam ha=
s been purchased, and my head is at a 1500 specialist having its breathing a=
ttended to.&nbsp; Add a pair of HS4s and the UK exhaust manifold, and it oug=
ht to be better than the original US spec, anyway.&nbsp; I will certainly ha=
ve spent enough cubic dollars to go at least a little faster...</div><div><b=
r></div><div>Jeff Scarbrough</div><div>Corrosion Acres, Ga.</div><div><br></=
div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cla=
ss=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 1:51 PM John Macartney &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt=
; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0=
px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D=
"auto">Air pollution regs kicked in for 1968 build. Albeit very limited, the=
 SU carb proved a bit difficult to lean out and that=E2=80=99s why Spitfires=
 from either 1969 or 1970 model year used a single Stromberg. My personal op=
inion is the Mk3 Spitfire with the 1296 8 port head is the Best Buy, hotly f=
ollowed by the 1296 Mk4. The 1500 engine is positively athsmatic and has alw=
ays had breathing issues in standard spec. No doubt there will be howls of p=
rotest in favour of the 1500 but the many I=E2=80=99ve driven over years - r=
ebuilt/cared for/completely knackered - were all the same, I.e. seriously di=
sappointing and that same engine in the Midget made that great little car so=
mething that is best forgotten.<div><div><br></div><div>Jonmac<br><br><div i=
d=3D"gmail-m_6520465779848206012AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Bessie Bradd=
ock: =E2=80=9CWinston! You=E2=80=99re drunk=E2=80=9D.<div>Churchill: =E2=80=9C=
and you, Madam, are ugly. But tomorrow, I shall be sober but you will still b=
e ugly=E2=80=9D.</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On 23 Oct 2020, at 17:28, S=
ujit Roy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">triu=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Thanks for the answers. Here are a&nbsp;f=
ew follow up questions.</div><div>If the Smog parts were completely removed f=
rom the&nbsp;car and it needs it, what is the&nbsp; worst case cost wise to b=
uy this stuff to get it though a Smog? What workshop equipment would&nbsp;I n=
eed to buy and cost to make sure I can get it close to passing&nbsp;a smog w=
ithout having&nbsp;a repair shop tweek it to pass a smog check? Also, are '7=
4 year and earlier cars exempt from a smog&nbsp; but&nbsp; '75 on are not?</=
div><div><br></div><div>Regards, Sujit</div><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Sujit Roy<br>Cupertino, California</div><div><br=
><a href=3D"https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/" target=3D"_blank">https:=
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