Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON

From: "Alex & Janet Thomson" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 06:19:26 -0400

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Here's a source of cut-off switches.

https://www.flamingriver.com/batterydisconnect

Alex Thomson

TR6

GT6

From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of dave
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 8:08 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON

We have battery cutoff switches on all our cars.  Given the dicey electrics
on these cars I think it's a pretty important thing to do.  Pretty much
every time we walk away from the car we disconnect it.

From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Will Daehler
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 4:17 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [TR] TR4 Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON

OK, I have in the past inadvertently left my key in the ON position. For
days and days.  The result was a burned out coil and points which I was
forced to replace before the car started again. This made me look hard and
long at my fifty year old ignition switch. Although there was a contact
available for AUX on the back of the switch, and it was certainly wired
correctly, there didn't seem to be a AUX key position. There appeared to be
only three positions, Start, On and Off. Three clicks, not four.  I was able
to create a momentary and intermittent AUX effect by twisting the key hard
to the left and firmly holding it there, the radio would come on.

It eventually occurred to me that the switch was worn out, and so I replaced
it with a new one.  Voila, I now have an AUX function, and can now listen to
the radio at leisure without burning out the ignition circuits.  This
replacement switch also has the feature where you have to push the key in
slightly when simultaneously turning the key to the AUX position. 

Faithfully submitted,

Will Daehler

63 TR4

Powder Blue

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Here&#8217;s a source of cut-off =
switches.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"https://www.flamingriver.com/batterydisconnect">https://www.flami=
ngriver.com/batterydisconnect</a><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Alex =
Thomson<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>TR6<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>GT6<span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div=
><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt =
0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>dave<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 30, 2020 8:08 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR4 =
Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>We have =
battery cutoff switches on all our cars.&nbsp; Given the dicey electrics =
on these cars I think it&#8217;s a pretty important thing to do.&nbsp; =
Pretty much every time we walk away from the car we disconnect =
it.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Will =
Daehler<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 29, 2020 4:17 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> [TR] TR4 =
Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>OK, I have =
in the past inadvertently left my key in the ON position. For days and =
days.&nbsp; The result was a burned out coil and points which I was =
forced to replace before the car started again. This made me look hard =
and long at my fifty year old ignition switch. Although there was a =
contact available for AUX on the back of the switch, and it was =
certainly wired correctly, there didn&#8217;t seem to be a AUX key =
position. There appeared to be only three positions, Start, On and Off. =
Three clicks, not four. &nbsp;I was able to create a momentary and =
intermittent AUX effect by twisting the key hard to the left and firmly =
holding it there, the radio would come on.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>It =
eventually occurred to me that the switch was worn out, and so I =
replaced it with a new one.&nbsp; Voila, I now have an AUX function, and =
can now listen to the radio at leisure without burning out the ignition =
circuits. &nbsp;This replacement switch also has the feature where you =
have to push the key in slightly when simultaneously turning the key to =
the AUX position. <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Faithfully =
submitted,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Will Daehler<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>63 =
TR4<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Powder Blue<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
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From: "dave" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 07:08:26 -0500

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We use the brass ones with the little green knob.  Most flaps have them

From: Alex & Janet Thomson <[email-masked]> 
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2020 5:19 AM
To: 'dave' <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
Subject: RE: [TR] TR4 Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON

Alex Thomson

TR6

GT6

From: Triumphs <[email-masked]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 4:17 PM
Subject: [TR] TR4 Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON

Faithfully submitted,

Will Daehler

63 TR4

Powder Blue

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>We use the =
brass ones with the little green knob.&nbsp; Most flaps have =
them<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Alex &amp; Janet Thomson =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 1, =
2020 5:19 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'dave' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [TR] TR4 Ignitions switch =
AUX vs.ON<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Here&#8217;s =
a source of cut-off switches.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"https://www.flamingriver.com/batterydisconnect">https://www.flami=
ngriver.com/batterydisconnect</a><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Alex =
Thomson<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>TR6<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>GT6<span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div=
0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></=
b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> =
Triumphs [<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:triumphs-bounces@a=
utox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>dave<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, =
September 30, 2020 8:08 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b=
>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR4 Ignitions switch AUX =
vs.ON<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>We have =
battery cutoff switches on all our cars.&nbsp; Given the dicey electrics =
on these cars I think it&#8217;s a pretty important thing to do.&nbsp; =
Pretty much every time we walk away from the car we disconnect =
it.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
am.net</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Will Daehler<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, =
September 29, 2020 4:17 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b=
>Subject:</b> [TR] TR4 Ignitions switch AUX =
vs.ON<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
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From: William Pugh <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 11:01:04 -0700

I know this is expensive … but so is your Triumph.  I have used these for 10 years and have never had a problem with the battery.

MossMotors Part # 386-290   CTEX battery  test and charger.

It really works.

> On Oct 1, 2020, at 5:08 AM, dave <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> Here’s a source of cut-off switches.

Life is too short
to drive Boring Cars

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From: Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2020 21:26:49 -0400

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On Wed, Sep 30, 2020, 11:48 <[email-masked]> wrote:

>
> If for a good reason, peace of mind, and  the story above.  (yes true
> story above..from someone that DID 'have a clue' about what he was doing.)
>

I'd like to think that if I had an electrical problem, the path to dealing
with it would not be to ignore it for six or right years.

I guess that's in the "never too late to learn" column.

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ailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">ptegler@ver=
izon.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
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f;font-size:10pt">If for a good reason,=C2=A0peace of mind, and=C2=A0 the s=
tory above.=C2=A0 (yes true story above..from someone that DID &#39;have a =
clue&#39; about what he was doing.)<br></div></div></blockquote></div><div =
dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I&#39;d like to think that if I ha=
d an electrical problem, the path to dealing with it would not be to ignore=
 it for six or right years.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"au=
to">I guess that&#39;s in the &quot;never too late to learn&quot; column.</=
div><div class=3D"gmail_quote" dir=3D"auto"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
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From: Chris Simo <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 10:38:15 -0400

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when using the switch turn the knob firmly when reconnecting the battery in
to the circuit.

I have a friend, who was burning up the disconnect switches regularly and
getting stranded.   He did not tighten firmly and the switch was arcing.

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<div dir=3D"auto">when using the switch turn the knob firmly when reconnect=
ing the battery in to the circuit.=C2=A0 =C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"auto">I have a friend, who was burning up the disconnect switch=
es regularly and getting stranded.=C2=A0 =C2=A0He did not tighten firmly an=
d the switch was arcing.<br><br><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature" dir=
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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 15:12:12 +0000 (UTC)

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 Good point.=C2=A0 I haven't burned any switches but I have had one disconn=
ect occasionally and I needed to unscrew it a bit and re-tighten it to rest=
ore power.=C2=A0 Then I had to reprogram my radio presets :-(=C2=A0 And res=
et the clock.
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Dave=20

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From: Chris Simo <[email-masked]>
To: list Triumph <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thu, Oct 15, 2020 9:38 am
Subject: [TR] Battery cut off switch was TR4 Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON

when using the switch turn the knob firmly when reconnecting the battery in=
 to the circuit.=C2=A0 =C2=A0
I have a friend, who was burning up the disconnect switches regularly and g=
etting stranded.=C2=A0 =C2=A0He did not tighten firmly and the switch was a=
rcing.

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<div style="color:black;font: 12pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<div> <font size="3">Good point.&nbsp; I haven't burned any switches but I have had one disconnect occasionally and I needed to unscrew it a bit and re-tighten it to restore power.&nbsp; Then I had to reprogram my radio presets :-(&nbsp; And reset the clock.</font><br>
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<div style="clear:both"><font size="4">Dave </font><br>
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From: Chris Simo &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: list Triumph &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Thu, Oct 15, 2020 9:38 am<br>
Subject: [TR] Battery cut off switch was  TR4 Ignitions switch AUX vs.ON<br>
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<div>when using the switch turn the knob firmly when reconnecting the battery in to the circuit.&nbsp; &nbsp;
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<div>I have a friend, who was burning up the disconnect switches regularly and getting stranded.&nbsp; &nbsp;He did not tighten firmly and the switch was arcing.<br>
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