Subject: Re: [TR] How easy is it to get a Spitfire through a CA smog? Follow up questions

From: John Macartney <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 18:42:38 +0100

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Air pollution regs kicked in for 1968 build. Albeit very limited, the SU car=
b proved a bit difficult to lean out and that=E2=80=99s why Spitfires from e=
ither 1969 or 1970 model year used a single Stromberg. My personal opinion i=
s the Mk3 Spitfire with the 1296 8 port head is the Best Buy, hotly followed=
 by the 1296 Mk4. The 1500 engine is positively athsmatic and has always had=
 breathing issues in standard spec. No doubt there will be howls of protest i=
n favour of the 1500 but the many I=E2=80=99ve driven over years - rebuilt/c=
ared for/completely knackered - were all the same, I.e. seriously disappoint=
ing and that same engine in the Midget made that great little car something t=
hat is best forgotten.

Jonmac

Bessie Braddock: =E2=80=9CWinston! You=E2=80=99re drunk=E2=80=9D.
Churchill: =E2=80=9Cand you, Madam, are ugly. But tomorrow, I shall be sober=
 but you will still be ugly=E2=80=9D.

> On 23 Oct 2020, at 17:28, Sujit Roy <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> Thanks for the answers. Here are a few follow up questions.
> If the Smog parts were completely removed from the car and it needs it, wh=
at is the  worst case cost wise to buy this stuff to get it though a Smog? W=
hat workshop equipment would I need to buy and cost to make sure I can get i=
t close to passing a smog without having a repair shop tweek it to pass a sm=
og check? Also, are '74 year and earlier cars exempt from a smog  but  '75 o=
n are not?
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> Regards, Sujit
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Air pollution regs kicked in for 1968 build=
. Albeit very limited, the SU carb proved a bit difficult to lean out and th=
at=E2=80=99s why Spitfires from either 1969 or 1970 model year used a single=
 Stromberg. My personal opinion is the Mk3 Spitfire with the 1296 8 port hea=
d is the Best Buy, hotly followed by the 1296 Mk4. The 1500 engine is positi=
vely athsmatic and has always had breathing issues in standard spec. No doub=
t there will be howls of protest in favour of the 1500 but the many I=E2=80=99=
ve driven over years - rebuilt/cared for/completely knackered - were all the=
 same, I.e. seriously disappointing and that same engine in the Midget made t=
hat great little car something that is best forgotten.<div><div><br></div><d=
iv>Jonmac<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Bessie Braddock:=
 =E2=80=9CWinston! You=E2=80=99re drunk=E2=80=9D.<div>Churchill: =E2=80=9Can=
d you, Madam, are ugly. But tomorrow, I shall be sober but you will still be=
 ugly=E2=80=9D.</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On 23 Oct 2020, at 17:28, Su=
jit Roy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><div>Thanks for the answers. Here are a&nbsp;few follow up questi=
ons.</div><div>If the Smog parts were completely removed from the&nbsp;car a=
nd it needs it, what is the&nbsp; worst case cost wise to buy this stuff to g=
et it though a Smog? What workshop equipment would&nbsp;I need to buy and co=
st to make sure I can get it close to passing&nbsp;a smog without having&nbs=
p;a repair shop tweek it to pass a smog check? Also, are '74 year and earlie=
r cars exempt from a smog&nbsp; but&nbsp; '75 on are not?</div><div><br></di=
v><div>Regards, Sujit</div><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Suj=
it Roy<br>Cupertino, California</div><div><br><a href=3D"https://triumphstag=
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From: Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]>
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>  The 1500 engine is positively athsmatic and has always had breathing
issues in standard spec. No doubt there will be howls of protest in favour
of the 1500

Well, I'm about to find out.  My short block has been cleaned up and
balanced, a lightened flywheel and slightly hotter cam has been purchased,
and my head is at a 1500 specialist having its breathing attended to.  Add
a pair of HS4s and the UK exhaust manifold, and it ought to be better than
the original US spec, anyway.  I will certainly have spent enough cubic
dollars to go at least a little faster...

Jeff Scarbrough
Corrosion Acres, Ga.

On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 1:51 PM John Macartney <[email-masked]=
k>
wrote:

> Air pollution regs kicked in for 1968 build. Albeit very limited, the SU
> carb proved a bit difficult to lean out and that=E2=80=99s why Spitfires =
from
> either 1969 or 1970 model year used a single Stromberg. My personal opini=
on
> is the Mk3 Spitfire with the 1296 8 port head is the Best Buy, hotly
> followed by the 1296 Mk4. The 1500 engine is positively athsmatic and has
> always had breathing issues in standard spec. No doubt there will be howl=
s
> of protest in favour of the 1500 but the many I=E2=80=99ve driven over ye=
ars -
> rebuilt/cared for/completely knackered - were all the same, I.e. seriousl=
y
> disappointing and that same engine in the Midget made that great little c=
ar
> something that is best forgotten.
>
> Jonmac
>
> Churchill: =E2=80=9Cand you, Madam, are ugly. But tomorrow, I shall be so=
ber but
> you will still be ugly=E2=80=9D.
>
> If the Smog parts were completely removed from the car and it needs it,
> what is the  worst case cost wise to buy this stuff to get it though a
> Smog? What workshop equipment would I need to buy and cost to make sure I
> can get it close to passing a smog without having a repair shop tweek it =
to
> pass a smog check? Also, are '74 year and earlier cars exempt from a smog
> but  '75 on are not?
>
> Regards, Sujit
>
> --
> Sujit Roy
> Cupertino, California
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;=C2=A0

The 1500 engine is positively athsmatic and has always had breathing issues=
 in standard spec. No doubt there will be howls of protest in favour of the=
 1500<div><br></div><div>Well, I&#39;m about to find out.=C2=A0 My short bl=
ock has been cleaned up and balanced, a lightened flywheel and slightly hot=
ter cam has been purchased, and my head is at a 1500 specialist having its =
breathing attended to.=C2=A0 Add a pair of HS4s and the UK exhaust manifold=
, and it ought to be better than the original US spec, anyway.=C2=A0 I will=
 certainly have spent enough cubic dollars to go at least a little faster..=
.</div><div><br></div><div>Jeff Scarbrough</div><div>Corrosion Acres, Ga.</=
div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 1:51 PM John Maca=
rtney &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">John.Macartney@uk=
pips.org.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Air pollution regs kicked in for 1968 build. A=
lbeit very limited, the SU carb proved a bit difficult to lean out and that=
=E2=80=99s why Spitfires from either 1969 or 1970 model year used a single =
Stromberg. My personal opinion is the Mk3 Spitfire with the 1296 8 port hea=
d is the Best Buy, hotly followed by the 1296 Mk4. The 1500 engine is posit=
ively athsmatic and has always had breathing issues in standard spec. No do=
ubt there will be howls of protest in favour of the 1500 but the many I=E2=
=80=99ve driven over years - rebuilt/cared for/completely knackered - were =
all the same, I.e. seriously disappointing and that same engine in the Midg=
et made that great little car something that is best forgotten.<div><div><b=
r></div><div>Jonmac<br><br><div id=3D"gmail-m_6520465779848206012AppleMailS=
ignature" dir=3D"ltr">Bessie Braddock: =E2=80=9CWinston! You=E2=80=99re dru=
nk=E2=80=9D.<div>Churchill: =E2=80=9Cand you, Madam, are ugly. But tomorrow=
, I shall be sober but you will still be ugly=E2=80=9D.</div></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br>On 23 Oct 2020, at 17:28, Sujit Roy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triu=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
r><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><di=
v>Thanks for the answers. Here are a=C2=A0few follow up questions.</div><di=
v>If the Smog parts were completely removed from the=C2=A0car and it needs =
it, what is the=C2=A0 worst case cost wise to buy this stuff to get it thou=
gh a Smog? What workshop equipment would=C2=A0I need to buy and cost to mak=
e sure I can get it close to passing=C2=A0a smog without having=C2=A0a repa=
ir shop tweek it to pass a smog check? Also, are &#39;74 year and earlier c=
ars exempt from a smog=C2=A0 but=C2=A0 &#39;75 on are not?</div><div><br></=
div><div>Regards, Sujit</div><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div di=
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the twin SUs and 4-2-1 Eurospec exhaust will definitely be a noticable 
improvement.

Late 70's spits were de-tuned (smog regs) in the US and choked down with 
the single ZS carb , somewhere around 58 hp.
Just the carbs and exhaust change puts you back to near 75HP..... and 
before the cam change!

ptegler

On 10/24/2020 6:34 AM, Jeff Scarbrough wrote:
> issues in standard spec. No doubt there will be howls of protest in 
> favour of the 1500
>
> balanced, a lightened flywheel and slightly hotter cam has been 
> purchased, and my head is at a 1500 specialist having its breathing 
> attended to.  Add a pair of HS4s and the UK exhaust manifold, and it 
> ought to be better than the original US spec, anyway.  I will 
> certainly have spent enough cubic dollars to go at least a little faster..
>
> Jeff Scarbrough
> Corrosion Acres, Ga.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 1:51 PM John Macartney 
> wrote:
>
>     Air pollution regs kicked in for 1968 build. Albeit very limited,
>     the SU carb proved a bit difficult to lean out and that’s why
>     Spitfires from either 1969 or 1970 model year used a single
>     Stromberg. My personal opinion is the Mk3 Spitfire with the 1296 8
>     port head is the Best Buy, hotly followed by the 1296 Mk4. The
>     1500 engine is positively athsmatic and has always had breathing
>     issues in standard spec. No doubt there will be howls of protest
>     in favour of the 1500 but the many I’ve driven over years -
>     rebuilt/cared for/completely knackered - were all the same, I.e.
>     seriously disappointing and that same engine in the Midget made
>     that great little car something that is best forgotten.
>
>     Jonmac
>
>     Bessie Braddock: “Winston! You’re drunk”.
>     Churchill: “and you, Madam, are ugly. But tomorrow, I shall be
>     sober but you will still be ugly”.
>
>     On 23 Oct 2020, at 17:28, Sujit Roy <[email-masked]
>
>>     If the Smog parts were completely removed from the car and it
>>     needs it, what is the  worst case cost wise to buy this stuff to
>>     get it though a Smog? What workshop equipment would I need to buy
>>     and cost to make sure I can get it close to passing a smog
>>     without having a repair shop tweek it to pass a smog check? Also,
>>     are '74 year and earlier cars exempt from a smog but  '75 on are not?
>>
>>     Regards, Sujit
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Sujit Roy
>>     Cupertino, California
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    <p>the twin SUs and 4-2-1 Eurospec exhaust will definitely be a
      noticable improvement.</p>
    <p>Late 70's spits were de-tuned (smog regs) in the US and choked
      down with the single ZS carb , somewhere around 58 hp.<br>
      Just the carbs and exhaust change puts you back to near 75HP.....
      and before the cam change!</p>
    <p>ptegler<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/24/2020 6:34 AM, Jeff Scarbrough
      wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:[email-masked]">
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      <div dir="ltr">&gt; 
        The 1500 engine is positively athsmatic and has always had
        breathing issues in standard spec. No doubt there will be howls
        of protest in favour of the 1500
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Well, I'm about to find out.  My short block has been
          cleaned up and balanced, a lightened flywheel and slightly
          hotter cam has been purchased, and my head is at a 1500
          specialist having its breathing attended to.  Add a pair of
          HS4s and the UK exhaust manifold, and it ought to be better
          than the original US spec, anyway.  I will certainly have
          spent enough cubic dollars to go at least a little faster..</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Jeff Scarbrough</div>
        <div>Corrosion Acres, Ga.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
      </div>
      <br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 1:51
          PM John Macartney &lt;<a
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            moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
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          0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
          <div dir="auto">Air pollution regs kicked in for 1968 build.
            Albeit very limited, the SU carb proved a bit difficult to
            lean out and that’s why Spitfires from either 1969 or 1970
            model year used a single Stromberg. My personal opinion is
            the Mk3 Spitfire with the 1296 8 port head is the Best Buy,
            hotly followed by the 1296 Mk4. The 1500 engine is
            positively athsmatic and has always had breathing issues in
            standard spec. No doubt there will be howls of protest in
            favour of the 1500 but the many I’ve driven over years -
            rebuilt/cared for/completely knackered - were all the same,
            I.e. seriously disappointing and that same engine in the
            Midget made that great little car something that is best
            forgotten.
            <div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Jonmac<br>
                <br>
                <div id="gmail-m_6520465779848206012AppleMailSignature"
                  dir="ltr">Bessie Braddock: “Winston! You’re drunk”.
                  <div>Churchill: “and you, Madam, are ugly. But
                    tomorrow, I shall be sober but you will still be
                    ugly”.</div>
                </div>
                <div dir="ltr"><br>
                  On 23 Oct 2020, at 17:28, Sujit Roy &lt;<a
                    href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                  wrote:<br>
                  <br>
                </div>
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <div dir="ltr">
                    <div dir="ltr">
                      <div>Thanks for the answers. Here are a few follow
                        up questions.</div>
                      <div>If the Smog parts were completely removed
                        from the car and it needs it, what is the  worst
                        case cost wise to buy this stuff to get it
                        though a Smog? What workshop equipment would I
                        need to buy and cost to make sure I can get it
                        close to passing a smog without having a repair
                        shop tweek it to pass a smog check? Also, are
                        '74 year and earlier cars exempt from a smog 
                        but  '75 on are not?</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Regards, Sujit</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      -- <br>
                      <div dir="ltr">
                        <div dir="ltr">
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                            Cupertino, California</div>
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From: John Macartney <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2020 15:35:23 +0100

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Jeff,

Given that the 1500 with all the smog stuff fitted would be second place to a=
 Briggs and Stratton lawn mower engine, I think you=E2=80=99ll be in for a p=
leasant surprise. Enjoy

Jonmac

> On 24 Oct 2020, at 11:34, Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> >  The 1500 engine is positively athsmatic and has always had breathing is=
sues in standard spec. No doubt there will be howls of protest in favour of t=
he 1500
>=20
> Well, I'm about to find out.  My short block has been cleaned up and balan=
ced, a lightened flywheel and slightly hotter cam has been purchased, and my=
 head is at a 1500 specialist having its breathing attended to.  Add a pair o=
f HS4s and the UK exhaust manifold, and it ought to be better than the origi=
nal US spec, anyway.  I will certainly have spent enough cubic dollars to go=
 at least a little faster...
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> Jeff Scarbrough
> Corrosion Acres, Ga.
>=20
>=20
>=20
>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 1:51 PM John Macartney <[email-masked]=
.uk> wrote:
>> Air pollution regs kicked in for 1968 build. Albeit very limited, the SU c=
arb proved a bit difficult to lean out and that=E2=80=99s why Spitfires from=
 either 1969 or 1970 model year used a single Stromberg. My personal opinion=
 is the Mk3 Spitfire with the 1296 8 port head is the Best Buy, hotly follow=
ed by the 1296 Mk4. The 1500 engine is positively athsmatic and has always h=
ad breathing issues in standard spec. No doubt there will be howls of protes=
t in favour of the 1500 but the many I=E2=80=99ve driven over years - rebuil=
t/cared for/completely knackered - were all the same, I.e. seriously disappo=
inting and that same engine in the Midget made that great little car somethi=
ng that is best forgotten.
>> Churchill: =E2=80=9Cand you, Madam, are ugly. But tomorrow, I shall be so=
ber but you will still be ugly=E2=80=9D.
>>> If the Smog parts were completely removed from the car and it needs it, w=
hat is the  worst case cost wise to buy this stuff to get it though a Smog? W=
hat workshop equipment would I need to buy and cost to make sure I can get i=
t close to passing a smog without having a repair shop tweek it to pass a sm=
og check? Also, are '74 year and earlier cars exempt from a smog  but  '75 o=
n are not?
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Jeff,<div><br></div><div>Given that the 150=
0 with all the smog stuff fitted would be second place to a Briggs and Strat=
ton lawn mower engine, I think you=E2=80=99ll be in for a pleasant surprise.=
 Enjoy</div><div><br></div><div>Jonmac<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"=
 dir=3D"ltr">Bessie Braddock: =E2=80=9CWinston! You=E2=80=99re drunk=E2=80=9D=
.<div>Churchill: =E2=80=9Cand you, Madam, are ugly. But tomorrow, I shall be=
 sober but you will still be ugly=E2=80=9D.</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>=
On 24 Oct 2020, at 11:34, Jeff Scarbrough &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fishplate@gm=
ail.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp;

The 1500 engine is positively athsmatic and has always had breathing issues i=
n standard spec. No doubt there will be howls of protest in favour of the 15=
00<div><br></div><div>Well, I'm about to find out.&nbsp; My short block has b=
een cleaned up and balanced, a lightened flywheel and slightly hotter cam ha=
s been purchased, and my head is at a 1500 specialist having its breathing a=
ttended to.&nbsp; Add a pair of HS4s and the UK exhaust manifold, and it oug=
ht to be better than the original US spec, anyway.&nbsp; I will certainly ha=
ve spent enough cubic dollars to go at least a little faster...</div><div><b=
r></div><div>Jeff Scarbrough</div><div>Corrosion Acres, Ga.</div><div><br></=
div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cla=
ss=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 1:51 PM John Macartney &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt=
; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0=
px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D=
"auto">Air pollution regs kicked in for 1968 build. Albeit very limited, the=
 SU carb proved a bit difficult to lean out and that=E2=80=99s why Spitfires=
 from either 1969 or 1970 model year used a single Stromberg. My personal op=
inion is the Mk3 Spitfire with the 1296 8 port head is the Best Buy, hotly f=
ollowed by the 1296 Mk4. The 1500 engine is positively athsmatic and has alw=
ays had breathing issues in standard spec. No doubt there will be howls of p=
rotest in favour of the 1500 but the many I=E2=80=99ve driven over years - r=
ebuilt/cared for/completely knackered - were all the same, I.e. seriously di=
sappointing and that same engine in the Midget made that great little car so=
mething that is best forgotten.<div><div><br></div><div>Jonmac<br><br><div i=
d=3D"gmail-m_6520465779848206012AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Bessie Bradd=
ock: =E2=80=9CWinston! You=E2=80=99re drunk=E2=80=9D.<div>Churchill: =E2=80=9C=
and you, Madam, are ugly. But tomorrow, I shall be sober but you will still b=
e ugly=E2=80=9D.</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On 23 Oct 2020, at 17:28, S=
ujit Roy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">triu=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Thanks for the answers. Here are a&nbsp;f=
ew follow up questions.</div><div>If the Smog parts were completely removed f=
rom the&nbsp;car and it needs it, what is the&nbsp; worst case cost wise to b=
uy this stuff to get it though a Smog? What workshop equipment would&nbsp;I n=
eed to buy and cost to make sure I can get it close to passing&nbsp;a smog w=
ithout having&nbsp;a repair shop tweek it to pass a smog check? Also, are '7=
4 year and earlier cars exempt from a smog&nbsp; but&nbsp; '75 on are not?</=
div><div><br></div><div>Regards, Sujit</div><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Sujit Roy<br>Cupertino, California</div><div><br=
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