Subject: Re: [TR] A little story about Coker tires

From: Geo Hahn <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 15:19:48 -0700

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Andrew -

I have not used them but heard them recommended as a place that will sell
you tires to which they have added redlines:

Diamond Tire -- https://dbtires.com/

Geo

On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 3:07 PM <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Just for what it=E2=80=99s worth=E2=80=A6..
>
>
>
> When I bought my TR5 from Charles Runyan=E2=80=99s estate, it came with 1=
5
> year-old tires.  They had little to no wear, and drove fine, but I decide=
d
> I should do the right thing and replace them if I was to take loved ones
> out for a drive in the car.
>
>
>
> Since there was only one manufacturer to choose from for redline tires, I
> bought 4 tires from Coker, through Discount Tire.  Not cheap!!
>
>
>
> I put them on the car and there was a terrible wobble around 50 mph.  I
> took them back twice to Discount to get them balanced, but the wobble
> persisted.  Finally, I took them to an old guy (well, older than me) in
> Detroit who boasted he had balanced wire wheels for 40 years.  He told me
> the tires were so out of true they could not be balanced.
>
>
>
> I took them back to Discount Tire and they called Coker.  Coker refused t=
o
> take them back unless they fell outside certain specifications.  The
> Discount Tire shop didn=E2=80=99t really know what Coker was talking abou=
t, but
> went through the process and sure enough, the tires all fell outside the
> specifications.
>
>
>
> So the good news is, Coker will take them back.  The bad news is, Coker
> has no redline tires and doesn=E2=80=99t know when they will have more, i=
f ever.
>
>
>
> So my plan is to put new tires, not redline, on the car and keep the
> redlines I have if ever a buyer wants originality or the car is shown.
>
>
>
> Andrew Uprichard
>
> Jackson, Michigan
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Andrew -<div><br></div><div>I have not used them but heard=
 them recommended as a place that will sell you tires to which they have ad=
ded redlines:</div><div><br></div><div>Diamond Tire --=C2=A0<a href=3D"http=
s://dbtires.com/">https://dbtires.com/</a></div><div><br></div><div>Geo</di=
v></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr=
">On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 3:07 PM &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:auprichard@uprichar=
d.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"overflow-wrap=
: break-word;"><div class=3D"gmail-m_9160952247199476742WordSection1"><div>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roma=
n&quot;,serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Just for what it=E2=80=99s worth=E2=80=
=A6..<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<=
u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Ti=
mes New Roman&quot;,serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">When I bought my TR5 from C=
harles Runyan=E2=80=99s estate, it came with 15 year-old tires.=C2=A0 They =
had little to no wear, and drove fine, but I decided I should do the right =
thing and replace them if I was to take loved ones out for a drive in the c=
ar.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-fami=
ly:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u>=
</u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Time=
s New Roman&quot;,serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Since there was only one manu=
facturer to choose from for redline tires, I bought 4 tires from Coker, thr=
ough Discount Tire.=C2=A0 Not cheap!!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;colo=
r:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;color:rgb(31,73,1=
25)">I put them on the car and there was a terrible wobble around 50 mph.=
=C2=A0 I took them back twice to Discount to get them balanced, but the wob=
ble persisted.=C2=A0 Finally, I took them to an old guy (well, older than m=
e) in Detroit who boasted he had balanced wire wheels for 40 years.=C2=A0 H=
e told me the tires were so out of true they could not be balanced.=C2=A0 <=
u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&=
quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u>=
</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times Ne=
w Roman&quot;,serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I took them back to Discount Tire=
 and they called Coker.=C2=A0 Coker refused to take them back unless they f=
ell outside certain specifications.=C2=A0 The Discount Tire shop didn=E2=80=
=99t really know what Coker was talking about, but went through the process=
 and sure enough, the tires all fell outside the specifications.<u></u><u><=
/u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times=
 New Roman&quot;,serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&qu=
ot;,serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">So the good news is, Coker will take them b=
ack.=C2=A0 The bad news is, Coker has no redline tires and doesn=E2=80=99t =
know when they will have more, if ever.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;co=
lor:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;color:rgb(31,73=
,125)">So my plan is to put new tires, not redline, on the car and keep the=
 redlines I have if ever a buyer wants originality or the car is shown.<u><=
/u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quo=
t;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></s=
pan></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New R=
oman&quot;,serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Andrew Uprichard<u></u><u></u></span=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roma=
n&quot;,serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Jackson, Michigan<u></u><u></u></span><=
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I think you mean Diamond Back Tires. I bought whitewalls from them for =
my =E2=80=9949 TR2000 Roadster. Easy folks to work with and no =
complaints with the tires =E2=80=93 of course, I am not exactly auto =
crossing the with them.

=20

Bob

=20

From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Geo =
Hahn
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 3:20 PM
To: Andrew Uprichard
Cc: Triumphs; Triumph 6 Pack
Subject: Re: [TR] A little story about Coker tires

=20

Andrew -

=20

I have not used them but heard them recommended as a place that will =
sell you tires to which they have added redlines:

=20

=20

Geo

=20

=20

When I bought my TR5 from Charles Runyan=E2=80=99s estate, it came with =
15 year-old tires.  They had little to no wear, and drove fine, but I =
decided I should do the right thing and replace them if I was to take =
loved ones out for a drive in the car.

=20

Since there was only one manufacturer to choose from for redline tires, =
I bought 4 tires from Coker, through Discount Tire.  Not cheap!!

=20

I put them on the car and there was a terrible wobble around 50 mph.  I =
took them back twice to Discount to get them balanced, but the wobble =
persisted.  Finally, I took them to an old guy (well, older than me) in =
Detroit who boasted he had balanced wire wheels for 40 years.  He told =
me the tires were so out of true they could not be balanced. =20

=20

I took them back to Discount Tire and they called Coker.  Coker refused =
to take them back unless they fell outside certain specifications.  The =
Discount Tire shop didn=E2=80=99t really know what Coker was talking =
about, but went through the process and sure enough, the tires all fell =
outside the specifications.

=20

So the good news is, Coker will take them back.  The bad news is, Coker =
has no redline tires and doesn=E2=80=99t know when they will have more, =
if ever.

=20

So my plan is to put new tires, not redline, on the car and keep the =
redlines I have if ever a buyer wants originality or the car is shown.

=20

Andrew Uprichard

Jackson, Michigan

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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I think you mean Diamond Back Tires. I bought whitewalls from them =
for my =E2=80=9949 TR2000 Roadster. Easy folks to work with and no =
complaints with the tires =E2=80=93 of course, I am not exactly auto =
crossing the with them.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Bob<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Geo Hahn<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 13, 2020 3:20 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Andrew Uprichard<br><b>Cc:</b> Triumphs; Triumph 6 =
Pack<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] A little story about Coker =
tires<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Andrew =
-<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
have not used them but heard them recommended as a place that will sell =
you tires to which they have added redlines:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Diamond Tire --&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://dbtires.com/">https://dbtires.com/</a><o:p></o:p></p></di=
v><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Geo<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 3:07 PM &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Just for what it=E2=80=99s =
worth=E2=80=A6..</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>When I bought my TR5 from Charles =
Runyan=E2=80=99s estate, it came with 15 year-old tires.&nbsp; They had =
little to no wear, and drove fine, but I decided I should do the right =
thing and replace them if I was to take loved ones out for a drive in =
the car.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Since there was only one manufacturer to choose =
from for redline tires, I bought 4 tires from Coker, through Discount =
Tire.&nbsp; Not cheap!!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>I put them on the car and there was a terrible =
wobble around 50 mph.&nbsp; I took them back twice to Discount to get =
them balanced, but the wobble persisted.&nbsp; Finally, I took them to =
an old guy (well, older than me) in Detroit who boasted he had balanced =
wire wheels for 40 years.&nbsp; He told me the tires were so out of true =
they could not be balanced.&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>I took them back to Discount Tire and they =
called Coker.&nbsp; Coker refused to take them back unless they fell =
outside certain specifications.&nbsp; The Discount Tire shop =
didn=E2=80=99t really know what Coker was talking about, but went =
through the process and sure enough, the tires all fell outside the =
specifications.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>So the good news is, Coker will take them =
back.&nbsp; The bad news is, Coker has no redline tires and =
doesn=E2=80=99t know when they will have more, if =
ever.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>So my plan is to put new tires, not redline, on =
the car and keep the redlines I have if ever a buyer wants originality =
or the car is shown.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Andrew Uprichard</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Jackson, =
Michigan</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p =
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Andrew,
Had to have Coker replace two of the Michelin X tires I recently bought. My l=
ocal Discount knew just how to measure what they were asking for.  Spent two=
 more months trying to get Coker to issue credit for the returned tires. =20=

Alan Hendrix recommended Diamondback to me, they added whitewalls to a new s=
et of NanKangs.  No problems, decent prices. NFI

Bill B

#dontkillgrandma

On Oct 13, 2020, at 5:20 PM, Geo Hahn <[email-masked]> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF
Andrew -

I have not used them but heard them recommended as a place that will sell yo=
u tires to which they have added redlines:

Geo

On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 3:07 PM <[email-masked]> wrote:
> When I bought my TR5 from Charles Runyan=E2=80=99s estate, it came with 15=
 year-old tires.  They had little to no wear, and drove fine, but I decided I=
 should do the right thing and replace them if I was to take loved ones out f=
or a drive in the car.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Since there was only one manufacturer to choose from for redline tires, I b=
ought 4 tires from Coker, through Discount Tire.  Not cheap!!
>=20
> =20
>=20
> I put them on the car and there was a terrible wobble around 50 mph.  I to=
ok them back twice to Discount to get them balanced, but the wobble persiste=
d.  Finally, I took them to an old guy (well, older than me) in Detroit who b=
oasted he had balanced wire wheels for 40 years.  He told me the tires were s=
o out of true they could not be balanced.=20
>=20
> =20
>=20
> I took them back to Discount Tire and they called Coker.  Coker refused to=
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nt Tire shop didn=E2=80=99t really know what Coker was talking about, but we=
nt through the process and sure enough, the tires all fell outside the speci=
fications.
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> =20
>=20
> So the good news is, Coker will take them back.  The bad news is, Coker ha=
s no redline tires and doesn=E2=80=99t know when they will have more, if eve=
r.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Andrew,<div>Had to have Coker replace two o=
f the Michelin X tires I recently bought. My local Discount knew just how to=
 measure what they were asking for. &nbsp;Spent two more months trying to ge=
t Coker to issue credit for the returned tires. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><=
div>Alan Hendrix recommended Diamondback to me, they added whitewalls to a n=
ew set of NanKangs. &nbsp;No problems, decent prices. NFI<div><br></div><div=
>Bill B</div><div><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">#dontkillgrandma</div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br>On Oct 13, 2020, at 5:20 PM, Geo Hahn &lt;[email-masked]&gt;=
 wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr">Andrew -<div=
><br></div><div>I have not used them but heard them recommended as a place t=
hat will sell you tires to which they have added redlines:</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>Diamond Tire --&nbsp;<a href=3D"https://dbtires.com/">https://dbtire=
s.com/</a></div><div><br></div><div>Geo</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 3:07 PM &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0p=
x 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div la=
ng=3D"EN-US" style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class=3D"gmail-m_9160=
952247199476742WordSection1"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Just fo=
r what it=E2=80=99s worth=E2=80=A6..<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;color:r=
gb(31,73,125)"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">=
When I bought my TR5 from Charles Runyan=E2=80=99s estate, it came with 15 y=
ear-old tires.&nbsp; They had little to no wear, and drove fine, but I decid=
ed I should do the right thing and replace them if I was to take loved ones o=
ut for a drive in the car.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;color:rgb(31,73,1=
25)"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Since ther=
e was only one manufacturer to choose from for redline tires, I bought 4 tir=
es from Coker, through Discount Tire.&nbsp; Not cheap!!<u></u><u></u></span>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;,serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;col=
or:rgb(31,73,125)">I put them on the car and there was a terrible wobble aro=
und 50 mph.&nbsp; I took them back twice to Discount to get them balanced, b=
ut the wobble persisted.&nbsp; Finally, I took them to an old guy (well, old=
er than me) in Detroit who boasted he had balanced wire wheels for 40 years.=
&nbsp; He told me the tires were so out of true they could not be balanced.&=
nbsp; <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>&nbsp;<u=
></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Time=
s New Roman&quot;,serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I took them back to Discount T=
ire and they called Coker.&nbsp; Coker refused to take them back unless they=
 fell outside certain specifications.&nbsp; The Discount Tire shop didn=E2=80=
=99t really know what Coker was talking about, but went through the process a=
nd sure enough, the tires all fell outside the specifications.<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New=
 Roman&quot;,serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,se=
rif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">So the good news is, Coker will take them back.&nb=
sp; The bad news is, Coker has no redline tires and doesn=E2=80=99t know whe=
n they will have more, if ever.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;color:rgb(31=
,73,125)"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">So my p=
lan is to put new tires, not redline, on the car and keep the redlines I hav=
e if ever a buyer wants originality or the car is shown.<u></u><u></u></span=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman=
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I guess these are bias-ply tires.  Bias-ply tires are difficult to deal wit=
h.  Some say, don't even bother with balancing until they are broken in wit=
h say, a few hundred miles on them. They tend to be out-of-round when new. =
 I had huge problems with two new sets of Hoosier Vintage TD race tires for=
 my TR3.  Around $1200 a set, mounted and balanced.  I drive my car on the =
street too, so I was able to discover this before getting to the track.  Re=
peated tries at balancing went nowhere.  I had them "road force balanced" m=
ultiple times in attempt to improve the matter.  This machine reads the run=
-out.   I think 20 was about the number that you would not feel while drivi=
ng.  None of the tires were under 30 and some were 80.  You didn't need a m=
achine to see how out-of round they were, even at 30.  Terrible.  They real=
ly upset a weekend of racing at the Laguna Seca, Rolex Reunion.  The car sh=
ook terribly between 60-90 mph.  Above 90 was better.   After the event I c=
alled Hoosier and they sent me another set, no charge.  I had to eat the ex=
tra attempts at balancing.  The second set was also very bad and a year lat=
er, my second Rolex race weekend was equally disappointing.  Hoosier sent a=
 third set, no charge.   This set was excellent.  This event is the only on=
e that I have to run bias-ply race tires.  I've heard from other racers tha=
t the much more expensive Dunlops are even worst.  Hoosier did not request =
the bad sets be sent back.  I have since remounted a couple of lower "road =
force" numbered tires and they are good now.  So with some wear, they did g=
et better. =20
Roger Kraus Racing, tire company, recommended truing these tires by shaving=
 the tread when newly mounted if they are noticeably out-of round and take =
a lot of weight to balance. =20
Happy motoring,
Dave H.

>     On 10/13/2020 3:05 PM [email-masked] wrote:
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>=20
>=20
>     When I bought my TR5 from Charles Runyan=E2=80=99s estate, it came wi=
th 15 year-old tires.  They had little to no wear, and drove fine, but I de=
cided I should do the right thing and replace them if I was to take loved o=
nes out for a drive in the car.
>=20
>     =20
>=20
>     Since there was only one manufacturer to choose from for redline tire=
s, I bought 4 tires from Coker, through Discount Tire.  Not cheap!!
>=20
>     =20
>=20
>     I put them on the car and there was a terrible wobble around 50 mph. =
 I took them back twice to Discount to get them balanced, but the wobble pe=
rsisted.  Finally, I took them to an old guy (well, older than me) in Detro=
it who boasted he had balanced wire wheels for 40 years.  He told me the ti=
res were so out of true they could not be balanced.=20
>=20
>     =20
>=20
>     I took them back to Discount Tire and they called Coker.  Coker refus=
ed to take them back unless they fell outside certain specifications.  The =
Discount Tire shop didn=E2=80=99t really know what Coker was talking about,=
 but went through the process and sure enough, the tires all fell outside t=
he specifications.
>=20
>     =20
>=20
>     So the good news is, Coker will take them back.  The bad news is, Cok=
er has no redline tires and doesn=E2=80=99t know when they will have more, =
if ever.
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rchive
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   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">I guess these a=
re bias-ply tires.&nbsp; Bias-ply tires are difficult to deal with.&nbsp; S=
ome say, don't even bother with balancing until they are broken in with say=
, a few hundred miles on them. They tend to be out-of-round when new.&nbsp;=
 I had huge problems with two new sets of Hoosier Vintage TD race tires for=
 my TR3.&nbsp; Around $1200 a set, mounted and balanced.&nbsp; I drive my c=
ar on the street too, so I was able to discover this before getting to the =
track.&nbsp; Repeated tries at balancing went nowhere.&nbsp; I had them "ro=
ad force balanced" multiple times in attempt to improve the matter.&nbsp; T=
his machine reads the run-out.&nbsp; &nbsp;I think 20 was about the number =
that you would not feel while driving.&nbsp; None of the tires were under 3=
0 and some were 80.&nbsp; You didn't need a machine to see how out-of round=
 they were, even at 30.&nbsp; Terrible.&nbsp; They really upset a weekend o=
f racing at the Laguna Seca, Rolex Reunion.&nbsp; The car shook terribly be=
tween 60-90 mph.&nbsp; Above 90 was better.&nbsp; &nbsp;After the event I c=
alled Hoosier and they sent me another set, no charge.&nbsp; I had to eat t=
he extra attempts at balancing.&nbsp; The second set was also very bad and =
a year later, my second Rolex race weekend was equally disappointing.&nbsp;=
 Hoosier sent a third set, no charge.&nbsp; &nbsp;This set was excellent.&n=
bsp; This event is the only one that I have to run bias-ply race tires.&nbs=
p; I've heard from other racers that the much more expensive Dunlops are ev=
en worst.&nbsp; Hoosier did not request the bad sets be sent back.&nbsp; I =
have since remounted a couple of lower "road force" numbered tires and they=
 are good now.&nbsp; So with some wear, they did get better.&nbsp;&nbsp;</s=
pan>
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   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Roger Kraus Rac=
ing, tire company, recommended truing these tires by shaving the tread when=
 newly mounted if they are noticeably out-of round and take a lot of weight=
 to balance.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>
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  <div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;=
 color: #333333;">
   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Happy motoring,=
</span>
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    <br>
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    <br>
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   <div class=3D"WordSection1">
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     <div>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman',=
serif; color: #1f497d;">Just for what it=E2=80=99s worth=E2=80=A6..</span><=
/p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman',=
serif; color: #1f497d;">&nbsp;</span></p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman',=
serif; color: #1f497d;">When I bought my TR5 from Charles Runyan=E2=80=99s =
estate, it came with 15 year-old tires.&nbsp; They had little to no wear, a=
nd drove fine, but I decided I should do the right thing and replace them i=
f I was to take loved ones out for a drive in the car.</span></p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman',=
serif; color: #1f497d;">&nbsp;</span></p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman',=
serif; color: #1f497d;">Since there was only one manufacturer to choose fro=
m for redline tires, I bought 4 tires from Coker, through Discount Tire.&nb=
sp; Not cheap!!</span></p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman',=
serif; color: #1f497d;">&nbsp;</span></p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman',=
serif; color: #1f497d;">I put them on the car and there was a terrible wobb=
le around 50 mph.&nbsp; I took them back twice to Discount to get them bala=
nced, but the wobble persisted.&nbsp; Finally, I took them to an old guy (w=
ell, older than me) in Detroit who boasted he had balanced wire wheels for =
40 years.&nbsp; He told me the tires were so out of true they could not be =
balanced.&nbsp; </span></p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman',=
serif; color: #1f497d;">&nbsp;</span></p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman',=
serif; color: #1f497d;">I took them back to Discount Tire and they called C=
oker.&nbsp; Coker refused to take them back unless they fell outside certai=
n specifications.&nbsp; The Discount Tire shop didn=E2=80=99t really know w=
hat Coker was talking about, but went through the process and sure enough, =
the tires all fell outside the specifications.</span></p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman',=
serif; color: #1f497d;">&nbsp;</span></p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman',=
serif; color: #1f497d;">So the good news is, Coker will take them back.&nbs=
p; The bad news is, Coker has no redline tires and doesn=E2=80=99t know whe=
n they will have more, if ever.</span></p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman',=
serif; color: #1f497d;">&nbsp;</span></p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman',=
serif; color: #1f497d;">So my plan is to put new tires, not redline, on the=
 car and keep the redlines I have if ever a buyer wants originality or the =
car is shown.</span></p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman',=
serif; color: #1f497d;">&nbsp;</span></p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman',=
serif; color: #1f497d;">Andrew Uprichard</span></p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman',=
serif; color: #1f497d;">Jackson, Michigan</span></p>
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From: William Pugh <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 16:17:20 -0700

Coker Red lines .. do you have wire wheels?  Almost no one can balance those, the machines they have cannot align the tires … But … there is a company in England that has an adapter that properly aligns them … Used the adapter to align for TR6 (Coker Red Lines), and TR3 (Coker Micheln X)

The results were perfect.   Just saying.

We did “Tours” for the last three weekends 300 + miles in the TR6 very smooth (except for bumpy roads).

BTW Moss catalogs show just how wire wheels should be properly mounted.

Bill Pugh

Life is too short
to drive Boring Cars

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As an alternative -- I installed these in my E-Type wires a year ago and
have driven about 7,000 miles with them:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06W2N5MTW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Wheels are tubeless Dayton wires and the beads were installed well after
the tires were mounted (dumped in through the valve stem).

I did this when I had a niggling vibration in the steering wheel that I
couldn't seem to get rid of - these resolved that.

Geo

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>As an alternative -- I ins=
talled these in my E-Type wires a year ago and have driven about 7,000 mile=
s with them:</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/gp/=
product/B06W2N5MTW/ref=3Dppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=3DUTF8&amp;psc=3D=
1">https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06W2N5MTW/ref=3Dppx_yo_dt_b_search_as=
in_title?ie=3DUTF8&amp;psc=3D1</a></div><div><br></div><div><img src=3D"cid=
:ii_kg9yxd0p0" alt=3D"image.png" width=3D"472" height=3D"464"><br></div><di=
v><br></div><div>Wheels are tubeless Dayton wires and the beads were instal=
led well after the tires were mounted (dumped in through the valve stem).</=
div><div><br></div><div>I did this when I had a niggling vibration in the s=
teering wheel that I couldn&#39;t seem to get rid of - these resolved that.=
</div><div><br></div><div>Geo</div><div>=C2=A0</div></div></div>

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	I have Dayton wire wheels on my TR6.  I had the wheels serviced =
by New England Wheel Specialty Co. about 3 years back.  After many years =
of use the wheels were true and did not require any adjustment.  On the =
advice of the owner I got new tiers from Tire Rack and had them =
delivered to, and mounted by, New England Wheel Specialty.  I then had a =
persistent shimmy.  I got the wheels rebalanced a couple of times and =
finally one tech told me that one tire was out of round.  One thing that =
did help was using the old fashion rim weighs in place if adhesive  =
weights used on the inside of the rim. After a couple of thousand miles =
on the new tires the shimmy has become almost imperceptible.
	 Fast forward to this summer.  I needed a new set of tires for =
my truck and my go mechanic suggested that I get them from Tire Rack. My =
mechanic mounted them and when I got them home notice that the raised =
lettering was defective on 2 of the tires. That did it for me.  I will =
now only buy tires and other hard to return items form local dealers.  =
In both of these cases, if the tires were bought locally, I could have =
easily returned them and had them replaced.  I  know that getting period =
correct tires locally is almost impossible, but for me, I=E2=80=99m =
stricken local even if I have to give up a little originality.
	BTW, Moss sells an adapter set to balance wire wheels on modern =
balancing machines, but the cost is north of $400.00-sometimes close =
enough is good enough.=20
	Best,
	Bob
	=E2=80=9972 TR6
> On Oct 14, 2020, at 6:34 PM, Geo Hahn <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> As an alternative -- I installed these in my E-Type wires a year ago =
and have driven about 7,000 miles with them:
> =
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06W2N5MTW/ref=3Dppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin=
_title?ie=3DUTF8&psc=3D1 =
<https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06W2N5MTW/ref=3Dppx_yo_dt_b_search_asi=
n_title?ie=3DUTF8&psc=3D1>
>=20
>=20
> Wheels are tubeless Dayton wires and the beads were installed well =
after the tires were mounted (dumped in through the valve stem).
>=20
> I did this when I had a niggling vibration in the steering wheel that =
I couldn't seem to get rid of - these resolved that.
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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><font=
 size=3D"4" class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>I have Dayton wire wheels on my =
TR6. &nbsp;I had the wheels serviced by New England Wheel Specialty Co. =
about 3&nbsp;years back. &nbsp;After many years of use the wheels were =
true and did not require any adjustment. &nbsp;On the advice of the =
owner I got new tiers from Tire Rack and had them delivered to, and =
mounted by, New England Wheel Specialty. &nbsp;I then had a persistent =
shimmy. &nbsp;I got the wheels rebalanced a couple of times and finally =
one tech told me that one tire was out of round. &nbsp;One thing that =
did help was using the old fashion rim weighs in place if&nbsp;adhesive =
&nbsp;weights used on the inside of the rim. After a couple of thousand =
miles on the new tires the shimmy has become =
almost&nbsp;imperceptible.</font><div class=3D""><font size=3D"4" =
class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span>&nbsp;Fast forward to this summer. &nbsp;I needed a new set of =
tires for my truck and my go mechanic suggested that I get them from =
Tire Rack. My mechanic&nbsp;mounted them and when I got them home notice =
that the raised lettering was defective on 2 of the tires. That did it =
for me. &nbsp;I will now only buy tires and other hard to return items =
form local dealers. &nbsp;In both of these cases, if the tires were =
bought locally, I could have easily returned them and had =
them&nbsp;replaced. &nbsp;I &nbsp;know that getting period&nbsp;correct =
tires locally is almost&nbsp;impossible, but&nbsp;for me, =
I=E2=80=99m&nbsp;stricken&nbsp;local even if I have to give up a little =
originality.</font></div><div class=3D""><font size=3D"4" class=3D""><span=
 class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>BTW, Moss =
sells an adapter set to&nbsp;balance wire wheels on =
modern&nbsp;balancing machines, but the cost is north of =
$400.00-sometimes close&nbsp;enough is good =
enough.&nbsp;</font></div><div class=3D""><font size=3D"4" =
class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span>Best,</font></div><div class=3D""><font size=3D"4" class=3D""><span=
 class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span>Bob</font></div><div class=3D""><font size=3D"4" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>=E2=80=9972=
 TR6<br class=3D""></font><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><font size=3D"4" class=3D"">On Oct 14, 2020, at 6:34 PM, Geo =
Hahn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</font></div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"">As an alternative =
-- I installed these in my E-Type wires a year ago and have driven about =
7,000 miles with them:</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><a =
href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06W2N5MTW/ref=3Dppx_yo_dt_b_sea=
rch_asin_title?ie=3DUTF8&amp;psc=3D1" =
class=3D"">https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06W2N5MTW/ref=3Dppx_yo_dt_b_=
search_asin_title?ie=3DUTF8&amp;psc=3D1</a></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><span =
id=3D"cid:ii_kg9yxd0p0">&lt;image.png&gt;</span><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Wheels are tubeless =
Dayton wires and the beads were installed well after the tires were =
mounted (dumped in through the valve stem).</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I did this when I had a niggling =
vibration in the steering wheel that I couldn't seem to get rid of - =
these resolved that.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Geo</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div></div></div>
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 10:51:32 -0700

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I believe that Moss lists the allowable runout of a new wire wheel to be .09=
0".  That plus an inner tube, plus bias ply tires, seems to be a recipe for p=
roblems.  Keeping them clean is another problems.  But, nothing looks better=
 than wires on a TR or any classic British sports car.  Panasports or Silver=
stones or something similar with a nice set of radials can be a very good op=
tion. =20
Dave H.=20

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 15, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Rochlin Robert <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> 	I have Dayton wire wheels on my TR6.  I had the wheels serviced by N=
ew England Wheel Specialty Co. about 3 years back.  After many years of use t=
he wheels were true and did not require any adjustment.  On the advice of th=
e owner I got new tiers from Tire Rack and had them delivered to, and mounte=
d by, New England Wheel Specialty.  I then had a persistent shimmy.  I got t=
he wheels rebalanced a couple of times and finally one tech told me that one=
 tire was out of round.  One thing that did help was using the old fashion r=
im weighs in place if adhesive  weights used on the inside of the rim. After=
 a couple of thousand miles on the new tires the shimmy has become almost im=
perceptible.
> 	 Fast forward to this summer.  I needed a new set of tires for my t=
ruck and my go mechanic suggested that I get them from Tire Rack. My mechani=
c mounted them and when I got them home notice that the raised lettering was=
 defective on 2 of the tires. That did it for me.  I will now only buy tires=
 and other hard to return items form local dealers.  In both of these cases,=
 if the tires were bought locally, I could have easily returned them and had=
 them replaced.  I  know that getting period correct tires locally is almost=
 impossible, but for me, I=E2=80=99m stricken local even if I have to give u=
p a little originality.
> 	BTW, Moss sells an adapter set to balance wire wheels on modern bal=
ancing machines, but the cost is north of $400.00-sometimes close enough is g=
ood enough.=20
>> As an alternative -- I installed these in my E-Type wires a year ago and h=
ave driven about 7,000 miles with them:
>>=20
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06W2N5MTW/ref=3Dppx_yo_dt_b_search_asi=
n_title?ie=3DUTF8&psc=3D1
>>=20
>>=20
>> Wheels are tubeless Dayton wires and the beads were installed well after t=
he tires were mounted (dumped in through the valve stem).
>>=20
>> I did this when I had a niggling vibration in the steering wheel that I c=
ouldn't seem to get rid of - these resolved that.
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs  http://www.team.net/arch=
ive
>>=20
>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/rrochl=
[email-masked]
ve
>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>I believe that Moss lists the allowabl=
e runout of a new wire wheel to be .090". &nbsp;That plus an inner tube, plu=
s bias ply tires, seems to be a recipe for problems. &nbsp;Keeping them clea=
n is another problems. &nbsp;But, nothing looks better than wires on a TR or=
 any classic British sports car. &nbsp;Panasports or Silverstones or somethi=
ng similar with a nice set of radials can be a very good option. &nbsp;</div=
><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Dave H.&nbsp;<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div>=
<div><br>On Oct 15, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Rochlin Robert &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:r=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><div><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/h=
tml; charset=3Dutf-8"><font size=3D"4" class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-tab-s=
pan" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>I have Dayton wire wheels on my TR6.=
 &nbsp;I had the wheels serviced by New England Wheel Specialty Co. about 3&=
nbsp;years back. &nbsp;After many years of use the wheels were true and did n=
ot require any adjustment. &nbsp;On the advice of the owner I got new tiers f=
rom Tire Rack and had them delivered to, and mounted by, New England Wheel S=
pecialty. &nbsp;I then had a persistent shimmy. &nbsp;I got the wheels rebal=
anced a couple of times and finally one tech told me that one tire was out o=
f round. &nbsp;One thing that did help was using the old fashion rim weighs i=
n place if&nbsp;adhesive &nbsp;weights used on the inside of the rim. After a=
 couple of thousand miles on the new tires the shimmy has become almost&nbsp=
;imperceptible.</font><div class=3D""><font size=3D"4" class=3D""><span clas=
s=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>&nbsp;Fast forward t=
o this summer. &nbsp;I needed a new set of tires for my truck and my go mech=
anic suggested that I get them from Tire Rack. My mechanic&nbsp;mounted them=
 and when I got them home notice that the raised lettering was defective on 2=
 of the tires. That did it for me. &nbsp;I will now only buy tires and other=
 hard to return items form local dealers. &nbsp;In both of these cases, if t=
he tires were bought locally, I could have easily returned them and had them=
&nbsp;replaced. &nbsp;I &nbsp;know that getting period&nbsp;correct tires lo=
cally is almost&nbsp;impossible, but&nbsp;for me, I=E2=80=99m&nbsp;stricken&=
nbsp;local even if I have to give up a little originality.</font></div><div c=
lass=3D""><font size=3D"4" class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D=
"white-space:pre">	</span>BTW, Moss sells an adapter set to&nbsp;balan=
ce wire wheels on modern&nbsp;balancing machines, but the cost is north of $=
400.00-sometimes close&nbsp;enough is good enough.&nbsp;</font></div><div cl=
ass=3D""><font size=3D"4" class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D=
"white-space:pre">	</span>Best,</font></div><div class=3D""><font size=
=3D"4" class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">=
	</span>Bob</font></div><div class=3D""><font size=3D"4" class=3D""><span cl=
ass=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>=E2=80=9972 T=
R6<br class=3D""></font><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=
=3D""><font size=3D"4" class=3D"">On Oct 14, 2020, at 6:34 PM, Geo Hahn &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt; wrote:</font></div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D=
""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"">As=
 an alternative -- I installed these in my E-Type wires a year ago and have d=
riven about 7,000 miles with them:</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div=
><div class=3D""><a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06W2N5MTW/ref=
=3Dppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=3DUTF8&amp;psc=3D1" class=3D"">https://w=
ww.amazon.com/gp/product/B06W2N5MTW/ref=3Dppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=3D=
UTF8&amp;psc=3D1</a></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D=
""><span id=3D"cid:ii_kg9yxd0p0">&lt;image.png&gt;</span><br class=3D""></di=
v><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Wheels are tubeless D=
ayton wires and the beads were installed well after the tires were mounted (=
dumped in through the valve stem).</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div=
><div class=3D"">I did this when I had a niggling vibration in the steering w=
heel that I couldn't seem to get rid of - these resolved that.</div><div cla=
ss=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Geo</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp;=
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From: William Pugh <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 11:20:15 -0700

BTW I have an adaptor … happy to lend it out …no charge, just pay mail…both ways.

It is simple and it works, you will have to get your dealer to put it on his machine

> On Oct 15, 2020, at 10:51 AM, Dave <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> I believe that Moss lists the allowable runout of a new wire wheel to be .090".  That plus an inner tube, plus bias ply tires, seems to be a recipe for problems.  Keeping them clean is another problems.  But, nothing looks better than wires on a TR or any classic British sports car.  Panasports or Silverstones or something similar with a nice set of radials can be a very good option.  
> Dave H. 
> 
>>> 
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