Subject: Re: [TR] anti squeal shims: now grease vs. anti-seize

From: TERRY SMITH <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 20:56:07 -0400 (EDT)

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Actually, this raises an interesting question.  When restoring something like the long forward bolt that clamps the leaf spring to the frame, everyone who's done such faces the herculean task of dislodging this, especially when (OMG, can't fathom the thought) attempting it without having the body off the frame.

When re-assembling such,  including the similar caliper bolts that don't get removed for extended periods, I've preferred Anti-Seize to any kind of grease.  I've found the latter to be a magnet for dirt and debris that over a long (okay, long-long-long) time, dry up faster than anti-seize.

Wonder about others' thoughts.

Terry Smith, '59 TR3A
New Hampshire

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   <span style="font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Actually, this raises an interesting question.&nbsp; When restoring something like the long forward bolt that clamps the leaf spring to the frame, everyone who's done such faces the herculean task of dislodging this, especially when (OMG, can't fathom the thought) attempting it without having the body off the frame.</span>
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   <span style="font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">When re-assembling such,&nbsp; including the similar caliper bolts that don't get removed for extended periods, I've preferred Anti-Seize to any kind of grease.&nbsp; I've found the latter to be a magnet for dirt and debris that over a long (okay, long-long-long) time, dry up faster than anti-seize.</span>
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I would have thought Moss would find a set that wasn't rusty for their 
website photo.

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    I would have thought Moss would find a set that wasn't rusty for
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 From past experience, these shims are a joke. REAL squal shims as many 
are using/calling them, have a dense thin pad of material on them to 
deaden vibration.
exact same function as boommat/dynamat on your interior floors and panels.

as a test... only a test as the achieve won't hold up to the heat... 
just place two layers of duct tape just a tad larger than the piston on 
the piston side of the shim

ptegler

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    <p>From past experience, these shims are a joke. REAL squal shims as
      many are using/calling them, have a dense thin pad of material on
      them to deaden vibration.<br>
      exact same function as boommat/dynamat on your interior floors and
      panels.</p>
    <p>as a test... only a test as the achieve won't hold up to the
      heat... just place two layers of duct tape just a tad larger than
      the piston on the piston side of the shim</p>
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Yeah I noticed that too. I think my original shims are SS. Contrary to =
another post in my experience they did work. I left them off on a set of =
Green Stuff pads and they squealed. I immediately installed them and =
noise was gone. Also my experience with Green Stuff was those pads made =
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From: Michael Porter <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 21:50:16 -0600

On 7/8/2020 8:23 PM, Paul Tegler wrote:
> just place two layers of duct tape just a tad larger than the piston 
> on the piston side of the shim
>
Shims were always a problem, in that if the piston retracted fully, the 
shim would rattle between the caliper and the pad. I've always been 
partial to the blue goo that came with the old GM single-piston, 
floating pad carrier kits.  Allowed to set up properly, it was a 
physical connection between the piston and the pad and yet was still 
soft and flexible enough to dampen vibration.

Cheers.

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   My first thought was that at my age applying any lubricant to ease future disassembly is a waste of time and money unless I'm doing so in consideration of the next owner.&nbsp;
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I support Terry Smith and the use of anti seize. You can always wipe off the=
 excess or traces likely to attract dirt. Same goes for grease nipples (zerk=
s). Wipe them clean before greasing and wipe again afterwards, including the=
 ooze that comes out of the assembly. There=E2=80=99s a periodic advert I ge=
t on FB of a firm selling grease guns. They click on a filthy nipple, apply t=
he lube, then remove leaving surplus grease everywhere. If I=E2=80=99d done t=
hat as an apprentice at Jaguar in my very distant youth, I=E2=80=99d have be=
en fired on the spot.

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> On 9 Jul 2020, at 12:48, EDWARD WOODS <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> My first thought was that at my age applying any lubricant to ease future d=
isassembly is a waste of time and money unless I'm doing so in consideration=
 of the next owner.=20
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>> On 07/08/2020 8:56 PM TERRY SMITH <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>=20
>>=20
>> Actually, this raises an interesting question.  When restoring something l=
ike the long forward bolt that clamps the leaf spring to the frame, everyone=
 who's done such faces the herculean task of dislodging this, especially whe=
n (OMG, can't fathom the thought) attempting it without having the body off t=
he frame.=20
>>=20
>> When re-assembling such,  including the similar caliper bolts that don't g=
et removed for extended periods, I've preferred Anti-Seize to any kind of gr=
ease.  I've found the latter to be a magnet for dirt and debris that over a l=
ong (okay, long-long-long) time, dry up faster than anti-seize.
>>> Anyone know how thick they are?  Looks like a piece of cake to make if I=
 just knew the thickness
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I support Terry Smith and the use of anti s=
eize. You can always wipe off the excess or traces likely to attract dirt. S=
ame goes for grease nipples (zerks). Wipe them clean before greasing and wip=
e again afterwards, including the ooze that comes out of the assembly. There=
=E2=80=99s a periodic advert I get on FB of a firm selling grease guns. They=
 click on a filthy nipple, apply the lube, then remove leaving surplus greas=
e everywhere. If I=E2=80=99d done that as an apprentice at Jaguar in my very=
 distant youth, I=E2=80=99d have been fired on the spot.<div><br></div><div>=
Jonmac<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">At the Battle of Wa=
terloo, 1815:<div>Lord Uxbridge: &nbsp;=E2=80=9CBy God, Sir - I=E2=80=99ve l=
ost my leg=E2=80=9D</div><div>Duke of Wellington: =E2=80=9CBy God, Sir - so y=
ou have!=E2=80=9D</div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On 9 Jul 20=
20, at 12:48, EDWARD WOODS &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">fogbro=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=
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   My first thought was that at my age applying any lubricant to ease future=
 disassembly is a waste of time and money unless I'm doing so in considerati=
on of the next owner.&nbsp;
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    On 07/08/2020 8:56 PM TERRY SMITH &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:terryrs@comcast.=
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    <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Actually, this r=
aises an interesting question.&nbsp; When restoring something like the long f=
orward bolt that clamps the leaf spring to the frame, everyone who's done su=
ch faces the herculean task of dislodging this, especially when (OMG, can't f=
athom the thought) attempting it without having the body off the frame.</spa=
n>=20
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    <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">When re-assembl=
ing such,&nbsp; including the similar caliper bolts that don't get removed f=
or extended periods, I've preferred Anti-Seize to any kind of grease.&nbsp; I=
've found the latter to be a magnet for dirt and debris that over a long (ok=
ay, long-long-long) time, dry up faster than anti-seize.</span>
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Like an uncle of my wife who says at his age he wonders if he should be =
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WOODS
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like the long forward bolt that clamps the leaf spring to the frame, =
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especially when (OMG, can't fathom the thought) attempting it without =
having the body off the frame.=20

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When re-assembling such,  including the similar caliper bolts that don't =
get removed for extended periods, I've preferred Anti-Seize to any kind =
of grease.  I've found the latter to be a magnet for dirt and debris =
that over a long (okay, long-long-long) time, dry up faster than =
anti-seize.=20

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Wonder about others' thoughts.=20

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Anyone know how thick they are?  Looks like a piece of cake to make if I =
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green =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs =
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WOODS<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 9, 2020 7:49 AM<br><b>To:</b> TERRY =
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future disassembly is a waste of time and money unless I'm doing so in =
consideration of the next owner.&nbsp; =
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class=3DMsoNormal>On 07/08/2020 8:56 PM TERRY SMITH &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote: =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>Actually, this raises an interesting question.&nbsp; When restoring =
something like the long forward bolt that clamps the leaf spring to the =
frame, everyone who's done such faces the herculean task of dislodging =
this, especially when (OMG, can't fathom the thought) attempting it =
without having the body off the frame. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>When re-assembling such,&nbsp; including the similar caliper bolts =
that don't get removed for extended periods, I've preferred Anti-Seize =
to any kind of grease.&nbsp; I've found the latter to be a magnet for =
dirt and debris that over a long (okay, long-long-long) time, dry up =
faster than anti-seize. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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3'>Wonder about others' thoughts. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
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From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 07:35:15 -0500

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I'm finding more and more that I use a spritz of Fluid Film (a
lanolin-based anticorrosion spray) as a "sort-of" anti seize on surfaces
that might corrode.  I've used Fluid Film as a corrosion treatment on my
Tacomas for years.  There's some on my TR -- and probably ought to be
more.  Note to self.

After a discussion of Fluid Film with a colleague in San Diego who doesn't
know what midwestern corrosion can be, he had a good idea.  He sprays the
mounting surfaces on the wheels of his Porsche Cayman with Fluid Film
before mounting.  They come off easy-peasy that way.  It has the advantage
of while being somewhat greasy, it's *nowhere* near the mess of
copper-based anti seize.  It's a lot more removable if desired.

I'd think about trying it on brake shims.

Under my truck, it generally lasts about a year.  I'll often apply in
autumn before winter and sometimes again in the spring.  It would probably
last for about the same time to prevent brake shim corrosion.

I buy the multi-pack of Fluid Film in aerosol cans.  It's available in bulk
for ones own sprayer, but the rattlecans work for me.

Don
Saint Louis
1962 TR3B TSF202L

On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 7:10 AM andrew uprichard <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> Like an uncle of my wife who says at his age he wonders if he should be
> *From:* Triumphs <[email-masked]> *On Behalf Of *EDWARD
> WOODS
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 9, 2020 7:49 AM
> *To:* TERRY SMITH <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
> *Subject:* [TR] Grease or anti seize (was squeal)
>
>
>
> My first thought was that at my age applying any lubricant to ease future
> disassembly is a waste of time and money unless I'm doing so in
> consideration of the next owner.
>
>
>
> Ed Woods
>
> Actually, this raises an interesting question.  When restoring something
> like the long forward bolt that clamps the leaf spring to the frame,
> everyone who's done such faces the herculean task of dislodging this,
> especially when (OMG, can't fathom the thought) attempting it without
> having the body off the frame.
>
>
>
> When re-assembling such,  including the similar caliper bolts that don't
> get removed for extended periods, I've preferred Anti-Seize to any kind o=
f
> grease.  I've found the latter to be a magnet for dirt and debris that ov=
er
> a long (okay, long-long-long) time, dry up faster than anti-seize.
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;m finding more and more that I use a spritz of Fluid=
 Film (a lanolin-based anticorrosion spray) as a &quot;sort-of&quot; anti s=
eize on surfaces that might corrode.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve used Fluid Film as a co=
rrosion treatment on my Tacomas for years.=C2=A0 There&#39;s some on my TR =
-- and probably ought to be more.=C2=A0 Note to self.<div><br></div><div>Af=
ter a discussion of Fluid Film with a colleague in San Diego who doesn&#39;=
t know what midwestern corrosion can be, he had a good idea.=C2=A0 He spray=
s the mounting surfaces on the wheels of his Porsche Cayman with Fluid Film=
 before mounting.=C2=A0 They come off easy-peasy that way.=C2=A0 It has the=
 advantage of while being somewhat greasy, it&#39;s *nowhere* near the mess=
 of copper-based anti seize.=C2=A0 It&#39;s a lot more removable if desired=
.</div><div><br></div><div>I&#39;d think about trying it on brake shims.</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Under my truck, it generally=C2=A0lasts about a year=
.=C2=A0 I&#39;ll often apply in autumn before winter and sometimes again in=
 the spring.=C2=A0 It would probably last for about the same time to preven=
t brake shim corrosion.</div><div><br></div><div>I buy the multi-pack of Fl=
uid Film in aerosol cans.=C2=A0 It&#39;s available in bulk for ones own spr=
ayer, but the rattlecans=C2=A0work for me.</div><div><br></div><div>Don</di=
v><div>Saint Louis</div><div>1962 TR3B TSF202L</div></div><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at =
7:10 AM andrew uprichard &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">au=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,2=
04);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div class=3D"gmail-m_-8323745907=
253983917WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&q=
uot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Like an uncle of my w=
ife who says at his age he wonders if he should be buying green bananas=E2=
=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..<u></u><u></u></span></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,ser=
if;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;color:rgb(=
31,73,125)">Andrew Uprichard<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;color:rgb(31,=
73,125)">Jackson, Michigan<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;color:rgb(31,73=
,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><div style=3D"border-right:none;=
border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);p=
adding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">triumphs-bou=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>EDWARD WOODS<br><b>Sent:</b=
> Thursday, July 9, 2020 7:49 AM<br><b>To:</b> TERRY SMITH &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; <=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.=
team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [TR] Grease or anti seize (was squeal)<u></=
u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetic=
a,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">My first thought was that at my age apply=
ing any lubricant to ease future disassembly is a waste of time and money u=
nless I&#39;m doing so in consideration of the next owner.=C2=A0 <u></u><u>=
</u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
2pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u><=
/u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12=
pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Ed Woods <u></u><u=
></u></span></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt=
"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 07/08/2020 8:56 PM TERRY SMITH &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t; wrote: <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0=
<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Helve=
tica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Actually, this raises an interesting q=
uestion.=C2=A0 When restoring something like the long forward bolt that cla=
mps the leaf spring to the frame, everyone who&#39;s done such faces the he=
rculean task of dislodging this, especially when (OMG, can&#39;t fathom the=
 thought) attempting it without having the body off the frame. <u></u><u></=
u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12p=
t;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt=
;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">When re-assembling s=
uch,=C2=A0 including the similar caliper bolts that don&#39;t get removed f=
or extended periods, I&#39;ve preferred Anti-Seize to any kind of grease.=
=C2=A0 I&#39;ve found the latter to be a magnet for dirt and debris that ov=
er a long (okay, long-long-long) time, dry up faster than anti-seize. <u></=
u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:12pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Wonder abou=
t others&#39; thoughts. <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;colo=
r:rgb(51,51,51)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">Terry Smith, &#39;59 TR3A <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Helveti=
ca,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">New Hampshire <u></u><u></u></span></p><=
/div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">On 07/08/2020 8:32 PM dave &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@rantee=
r.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote: <u></u><u></u></p>=
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Anyone know how thick they are?=C2=A0 Looks like a piece of cake to make if=
 I just knew the thickness<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=
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him-set-anti-squeal" target=3D"_blank">https://mossmotors.com/shim-set-anti=
-squeal</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p=
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