Subject: Re: [TR] Space-saver or full-size spare?

From: Bob Danielson <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 07:22:05 -0400

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Hi David,
As the designer of the Boyd tank (http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/AluminumTa=
nk.htm, I can say the design was done with the use of a Space Saver Spare (=
SSS) in mind. Actually I=E2=80=99ve had a SSS in my car since =E2=80=9908 (=
http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/SpaceSaverSpare.htm ) and didn=E2=80=99t giv=
e the full sized spare a second thought in the tank design. A SSS gives you=
 a nice flat trunk, extra storage space and saves over 17 pounds of dead we=
ight versus a full size spare.

Bob

Bob Danielson
TR6 Interior Panels, Boot Covers and Fender Blankets
http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm

From: David Soknacki
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 11:04 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [TR] Space-saver or full-size spare?

I had an aluminum fuel tank from Boyd Welding installed in my 74 TR6. I kne=
w that it was larger than the standard tank. So when I picked up my car, I =
wasn=E2=80=99t surprised to hear that my spare tire was a tight fit. Only t=
oday I found out that the spare fit only because it was deflated! Fortunate=
ly I made the discovery in my driveway.
So I need a spare tire.
What is the thinking of list members for getting a =E2=80=98space saver=E2=
=80=99 tire instead of one that is full size?
I wouldn=E2=80=99t plan to drive far or quickly on a space-saver, and havin=
g flat space in the boot would be nice. On the other hand I=E2=80=99m not s=
ure if my tailpipe would drag or whether a short drive on the space-saver w=
ould cause other problems.
The (deflated) spare is a P205/65 R15. If I were to replace it with a full =
size tire, I plan to look at something as narrow as a 175/65R15. Being 30mm=
 more narrow might even allow me to inflate my spare!
Please let me know your thoughts.
Thanks so much.
David Soknacki
74 TR6 CF22072U

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ss=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hi David,</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>As=
 the designer of the Boyd tank (<a href=3D"http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/A=
luminumTank.htm">http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/AluminumTank.htm</a>, I can=
 say the design was done with the use of a Space Saver Spare (SSS) in mind.=
 Actually I=E2=80=99ve had a SSS in my car since =E2=80=9908 (<a href=3D"ht=
tp://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/SpaceSaverSpare.htm">http://tr6.danielsonfamil=
y.org/SpaceSaverSpare.htm</a> ) and didn=E2=80=99t give the full sized spar=
e a second thought in the tank design. A SSS gives you a nice flat trunk, e=
xtra storage space and saves over 17 pounds of dead weight versus a full si=
ze spare.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal=
>Bob</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Bob =
Danielson<br>TR6 Interior Panels, Boot Covers and Fender Blankets<br>http:/=
/tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&=
nbsp;</o:p></p><div style=3D'mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border=
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yle=3D'border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:soknacki@sok=
nacki.com">David Soknacki</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, July 1, 2020 11:04=
 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">triumphs@autox=
.team.net</a><br><b>Subject: </b>[TR] Space-saver or full-size spare?</p></=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D=
'margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'>I had an aluminum fuel tank from Boy=
d Welding installed in my 74 TR6. I knew that it was larger than the standa=
rd tank. So when I picked up my car, I wasn=E2=80=99t surprised to hear tha=
t my spare tire was a tight fit. Only today I found out that the spare fit =
only because it was deflated! Fortunately I made the discovery in my drivew=
ay.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-he=
ight:105%'>So I need a spare tire.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=
=3D'margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'>What is the thinking of list memb=
ers for getting a =E2=80=98space saver=E2=80=99 tire instead of one that is=
 full size?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:8.0pt=
;line-height:105%'>I wouldn=E2=80=99t plan to drive far or quickly on a spa=
ce-saver, and having flat space in the boot would be nice. On the other han=
d I=E2=80=99m not sure if my tailpipe would drag or whether a short drive o=
n the space-saver would cause other problems.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal style=3D'margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'>The (deflated) spare i=
s a P205/65 R15. If I were to replace it with a full size tire, I plan to l=
ook at something as narrow as a 175/65R15. Being 30mm more narrow might eve=
n allow me to inflate my spare!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D=
'margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'>Please let me know your thoughts.<o:=
p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:1=
05%'>Thanks so much.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNoSpacing>David Soknacki</=
p><p class=3DMsoNoSpacing>74 TR6 CF22072U</p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'=
margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'><span lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><=
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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 08:07:18 -0400

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Looks like a good match. I must say that over the years I have been very =
fortunate and have seldom needed the spare tire that I had (or usually =
didn=E2=80=99t have). Most flats I have discovered were in the morning =
when the car or truck was sitting in the driveway.

=20

I think the only thing to remember is that once you have a flat tire, =
where will you put it if only a space saver will fit in the spare tire =
compartment. If the car is fully loaded up - truck, rack, and =
behind-the-seats - as on a long distance trip, the passenger may object =
to keeping it in his or her lap until you can get it repaired and back =
on the car. Of course, if the full size tire is fully deflated, maybe =
this is not an issue as it might fit where intended.=20

=20

Bob =E2=80=93 I always amazed at the amount of material that you have =
published on your website! I learn something new every time I visit it.  =

=20

Thanks

=20

Alex Thomson

=20

From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Bob =
Danielson
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 7:22 AM
To: David Soknacki; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] Space-saver or full-size spare?

=20

Hi David,

As the designer of the Boyd tank =
(http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/AluminumTank.htm, I can say the design =
was done with the use of a Space Saver Spare (SSS) in mind. Actually =
I=E2=80=99ve had a SSS in my car since =E2=80=9908 =
(http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/SpaceSaverSpare.htm ) and didn=E2=80=99t =
give the full sized spare a second thought in the tank design. A SSS =
gives you a nice flat trunk, extra storage space and saves over 17 =
pounds of dead weight versus a full size spare.

=20

Bob

=20

Bob Danielson

=20

=20

I had an aluminum fuel tank from Boyd Welding installed in my 74 TR6. I =
knew that it was larger than the standard tank. So when I picked up my =
car, I wasn=E2=80=99t surprised to hear that my spare tire was a tight =
fit. Only today I found out that the spare fit only because it was =
deflated! Fortunately I made the discovery in my driveway.

So I need a spare tire.

What is the thinking of list members for getting a =E2=80=98space =
saver=E2=80=99 tire instead of one that is full size?

I wouldn=E2=80=99t plan to drive far or quickly on a space-saver, and =
having flat space in the boot would be nice. On the other hand =
I=E2=80=99m not sure if my tailpipe would drag or whether a short drive =
on the space-saver would cause other problems.

The (deflated) spare is a P205/65 R15. If I were to replace it with a =
full size tire, I plan to look at something as narrow as a 175/65R15. =
Being 30mm more narrow might even allow me to inflate my spare!

Thanks so much.

David Soknacki

74 TR6 CF22072U

=20

=20

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vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Looks like a good match. I must =
say that over the years I have been very fortunate and have seldom =
needed the spare tire that I had (or usually didn=E2=80=99t have). Most =
flats I have discovered were in the morning when the car or truck was =
sitting in the driveway.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I think =
the only thing to remember is that once you have a flat tire, where will =
you put it if only a space saver will fit in the spare tire compartment. =
If the car is fully loaded up - truck, rack, and behind-the-seats - as =
on a long distance trip, the passenger may object to keeping it in his =
or her lap until you can get it repaired and back on the car. Of course, =
if the full size tire is fully deflated, maybe this is not an issue as =
it might fit where intended. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Bob =
=E2=80=93 I always amazed at the amount of material that you have =
published on your website! I learn something new every time I visit =
it.=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Alex =
Thomson<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div=
><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt =
0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Bob Danielson<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 02, 2020 7:22 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> David Soknacki; =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Space-saver or =
full-size spare?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hi =
David,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>As the designer of the Boyd =
tank (<a =
href=3D"http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/AluminumTank.htm">http://tr6.danie=
lsonfamily.org/AluminumTank.htm</a>, I can say the design was done with =
the use of a Space Saver Spare (SSS) in mind. Actually I=E2=80=99ve had =
a SSS in my car since =E2=80=9908 (<a =
href=3D"http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/SpaceSaverSpare.htm">http://tr6.da=
nielsonfamily.org/SpaceSaverSpare.htm</a> ) and didn=E2=80=99t give the =
full sized spare a second thought in the tank design. A SSS gives you a =
nice flat trunk, extra storage space and saves over 17 pounds of dead =
weight versus a full size spare.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Bob<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Bob =
Danielson<br>TR6 Interior Panels, Boot Covers and Fender =
Blankets<br>http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm<o:p></o:p>=
</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From: </b><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">David Soknacki</a><br><b>Sent: =
</b>Wednesday, July 1, 2020 11:04 PM<br><b>To: </b><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b=
>Subject: </b>[TR] Space-saver or full-size =
spare?<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'>I had =
an aluminum fuel tank from Boyd Welding installed in my 74 TR6. I knew =
that it was larger than the standard tank. So when I picked up my car, I =
wasn=E2=80=99t surprised to hear that my spare tire was a tight fit. =
Only today I found out that the spare fit only because it was deflated! =
Fortunately I made the discovery in my driveway.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'>So I =
need a spare tire.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'>What is the thinking of =
list members for getting a =E2=80=98space saver=E2=80=99 tire instead of =
one that is full size?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'>I wouldn=E2=80=99t plan =
to drive far or quickly on a space-saver, and having flat space in the =
boot would be nice. On the other hand I=E2=80=99m not sure if my =
tailpipe would drag or whether a short drive on the space-saver would =
cause other problems.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'>The (deflated) spare is a =
P205/65 R15. If I were to replace it with a full size tire, I plan to =
look at something as narrow as a 175/65R15. Being 30mm more narrow might =
even allow me to inflate my spare!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'>Please let me know your =
thoughts.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'>Thanks so =
much.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNoSpacing>David =
Soknacki<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNoSpacing>74 TR6 =
CF22072U<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 12:14:35 +0000 (UTC)

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 Or leave it deflated and carry a can of Fix-A-Flat for when (if) you need =
it.
Another option is to get a tyre/wheel from a TR3-4.=C2=A0 It has a narrower=
 rim and tire and will easily fit if the 205 just barely fits.

I have a space-saver spare but I forgot what it was from.=C2=A0 It opened u=
p a nice bit of room in the well.
So, does the new tank have a larger capacity?
=20
Dave=20

=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: David Soknacki <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wed, Jul 1, 2020 10:02 pm
Subject: [TR] Space-saver or full-size spare?

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because it was deflated! Fortunately I made the discovery in my driveway. S=
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=E2=80=98space saver=E2=80=99 tire instead of one that is full size? I woul=
dn=E2=80=99t plan to drive far or quickly on a space-saver, and having flat=
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 my tailpipe would drag or whether a short drive on the space-saver would c=
ause other problems. The (deflated) spare is a P205/65 R15. If I were to re=
place it with a full size tire, I plan to look at something as narrow as a =
175/65R15. Being 30mm more narrow might even allow me to inflate my spare! =
Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks so much. David Soknacki 74 TR6 CF2=
2072U  =C2=A0 ** [email-masked] **

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<div> <font size=3D"3">Or leave it deflated and carry a can of Fix-A-Flat f=
or when (if) you need it.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">Another option is to get a tyre/wheel from a TR3-4.&n=
bsp; It has a narrower rim and tire and will easily fit if the 205 just bar=
ely fits.<br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">I have a space-saver spare but I forgot what it was f=
rom.&nbsp; It opened up a nice bit of room in the well.</font></div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div><font size=3D"3">So, does the new tank have a larger capacity?</font><=
br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
<br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

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From: David Soknacki &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: [email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Wed, Jul 1, 2020 10:02 pm<br>
Subject: [TR] Space-saver or full-size spare?<br>
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<div class=3D"yiv2101853706MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I had an aluminu=
m fuel tank from Boyd Welding installed in my 74 TR6. I knew that it was la=
rger than the standard tank. So when I picked up my car, I wasn=E2=80=99t s=
urprised to hear that my spare tire was a tight fit. Only today
 I found out that the spare fit only because it was deflated! Fortunately I=
 made the discovery in my driveway.</span></div>
=20

<div class=3D"yiv2101853706MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">So I need a spar=
e tire.</span></div>
=20

<div class=3D"yiv2101853706MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">What is the thin=
king of list members for getting a =E2=80=98space saver=E2=80=99 tire inste=
ad of one that is full size?</span></div>
=20

<div class=3D"yiv2101853706MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I wouldn=E2=80=
=99t plan to drive far or quickly on a space-saver, and having flat space i=
n the boot would be nice. On the other hand I=E2=80=99m not sure if my tail=
pipe would drag or whether a short drive on the space-saver would cause
 other problems.</span></div>
=20

<div class=3D"yiv2101853706MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The (deflated) s=
pare is a P205/65 R15. If I were to replace it with a full size tire, I pla=
n to look at something as narrow as a 175/65R15. Being 30mm more narrow mig=
ht even allow me to inflate my spare!</span></div>
=20

<div class=3D"yiv2101853706MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Please let me kn=
ow your thoughts.</span></div>
=20

<div class=3D"yiv2101853706MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks so much.<=
/span></div>
=20

<div class=3D"yiv2101853706MsoNoSpacing"><span lang=3D"EN-US">David Soknack=
i</span></div>
=20

<div class=3D"yiv2101853706MsoNoSpacing"><span lang=3D"EN-US">74 TR6 CF2207=
2U</span></div>
=20

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David=E2=80=A6 if you read my post, you=E2=80=99ll find links to the tank d=
esign and the Space Saver Spare

Bob Danielson

From: DAVID MASSEY
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 8:14 AM
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] Space-saver or full-size spare?

Or leave it deflated and carry a can of Fix-A-Flat for when (if) you need i=
t.

Dave=20

-----Original Message-----
From: David Soknacki <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wed, Jul 1, 2020 10:02 pm
Subject: [TR] Space-saver or full-size spare?
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ss=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>David=E2=80=A6 if you read my post, =
you=E2=80=99ll find links to the tank design and the Space Saver Spare</p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Bob Danielson<br>TR6 Interior Panels, Boot Cov=
ers and Fender Blankets<br>http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.h=
tm</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div style=3D'mso-element:p=
ara-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in=
 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: <=
/b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">DAVID MASSEY</a><br><b>Sent: </b>T=
hursday, July 2, 2020 8:14 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:soknacki@sokn=
acki.com">[email-masked]</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
net">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [TR] Space-saver or=
 full-size spare?</p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial=
",sans-serif;color:black'>Or leave it deflated and carry a can of Fix-A-Fla=
t for when (if) you need it.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMso=
Normal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color=
:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span s=
tyle=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Anothe=
r option is to get a tyre/wheel from a TR3-4.&nbsp; It has a narrower rim a=
nd tire and will easily fit if the 205 just barely fits.<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sa=
ns-serif;color:black'>I have a space-saver spare but I forgot what it was f=
rom.&nbsp; It opened up a nice bit of room in the well.<o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",san=
s-serif;color:black'>So, does the new tank have a larger capacity?<o:p></o:=
p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0p=
t;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><=
/div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=
=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dave </spa=
n><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blac=
k'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;=
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'=
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>From: David Soknacki &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>To: t=
[email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>Sent: Wed, Jul 1,=
 2020 10:02 pm<br>Subject: [TR] Space-saver or full-size spare?<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p><div id=3Dyiv2101853706><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span=
 style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I ha=
d an aluminum fuel tank from Boyd Welding installed in my 74 TR6. I knew th=
at it was larger than the standard tank. So when I picked up my car, I wasn=
=E2=80=99t surprised to hear that my spare tire was a tight fit. Only today=
 I found out that the spare fit only because it was deflated! Fortunately I=
 made the discovery in my driveway.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-seri=
f;color:black'>So I need a spare tire.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-s=
erif;color:black'>What is the thinking of list members for getting a =E2=80=
=98space saver=E2=80=99 tire instead of one that is full size?<o:p></o:p></=
span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I wouldn=E2=80=99t plan to drive =
far or quickly on a space-saver, and having flat space in the boot would be=
 nice. On the other hand I=E2=80=99m not sure if my tailpipe would drag or =
whether a short drive on the space-saver would cause other problems.<o:p></=
o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The (deflated) spare is a P=
205/65 R15. If I were to replace it with a full size tire, I plan to look a=
t something as narrow as a 175/65R15. Being 30mm more narrow might even all=
ow me to inflate my spare!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:b=
lack'>Please let me know your thoughts.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-=
serif;color:black'>Thanks so much.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif=
;color:black'>David Soknacki<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMso=
Normal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color=
:black'>74 TR6 CF22072U<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNorma=
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Alex=E2=80=A6. The issue with the full size spare is that it fits but only =
if some air is let out=E2=80=A6.. so a fully flat one will fit fine. The SS=
S fits just fine fully inflated.

Bob Danielson

From: Alex & Janet Thomson
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 8:07 AM
To: 'Bob Danielson'; 'David Soknacki'; [email-masked]
Subject: RE: [TR] Space-saver or full-size spare?

Looks like a good match. I must say that over the years I have been very fo=
rtunate and have seldom needed the spare tire that I had (or usually didn=
=E2=80=99t have). Most flats I have discovered were in the morning when the=
 car or truck was sitting in the driveway.

I think the only thing to remember is that once you have a flat tire, where=
 will you put it if only a space saver will fit in the spare tire compartme=
nt. If the car is fully loaded up - truck, rack, and behind-the-seats - as =
on a long distance trip, the passenger may object to keeping it in his or h=
er lap until you can get it repaired and back on the car. Of course, if the=
 full size tire is fully deflated, maybe this is not an issue as it might f=
it where intended.=20

Bob =E2=80=93 I always amazed at the amount of material that you have publi=
shed on your website! I learn something new every time I visit it.=C2=A0=20

Thanks

Alex Thomson

From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Bob Da=
nielson
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 7:22 AM
To: David Soknacki; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] Space-saver or full-size spare?

Hi David,

Bob

Bob Danielson

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ss=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Alex=E2=80=A6. The issue with the fu=
ll size spare is that it fits but only if some air is let out=E2=80=A6.. so=
 a fully flat one will fit fine. The SSS fits just fine fully inflated.</p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Bob Danielso=
n<br>TR6 Interior Panels, Boot Covers and Fender Blankets<br>http://tr6.dan=
ielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></p><div style=3D'mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:sol=
id #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'b=
order:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:aljlthomson@charter.=
net">Alex &amp; Janet Thomson</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, July 2, 2020 8:=
07 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">'Bob D=
anielson'</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">'David Soknacki'</a=
>; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><b=
r><b>Subject: </b>RE: [TR] Space-saver or full-size spare?</p></div><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font=
-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Looks like a good match. I must say that over t=
he years I have been very fortunate and have seldom needed the spare tire t=
hat I had (or usually didn=E2=80=99t have). Most flats I have discovered we=
re in the morning when the car or truck was sitting in the driveway.<o:p></=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#=
1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I think the only thing to remember is that onc=
e you have a flat tire, where will you put it if only a space saver will fi=
t in the spare tire compartment. If the car is fully loaded up - truck, rac=
k, and behind-the-seats - as on a long distance trip, the passenger may obj=
ect to keeping it in his or her lap until you can get it repaired and back =
on the car. Of course, if the full size tire is fully deflated, maybe this =
is not an issue as it might fit where intended. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:=
#1F497D'>Bob =E2=80=93 I always amazed at the amount of material that you h=
ave published on your website! I learn something new every time I visit it.=
&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:=
12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><spa=
n style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color=
:#1F497D'>Alex Thomson<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span styl=
e=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0=
in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ta=
homa",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] =
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Danielson<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 02, 2020 7=
:22 AM<br><b>To:</b> David Soknacki; [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:=
</b> Re: [TR] Space-saver or full-size spare?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hi David=
,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>As the designer of the Boyd tank (<a h=
ref=3D"http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/AluminumTank.htm">http://tr6.danielso=
nfamily.org/AluminumTank.htm</a>, I can say the design was done with the us=
e of a Space Saver Spare (SSS) in mind. Actually I=E2=80=99ve had a SSS in =
my car since =E2=80=9908 (<a href=3D"http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/SpaceSa=
verSpare.htm">http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/SpaceSaverSpare.htm</a> ) and =
didn=E2=80=99t give the full sized spare a second thought in the tank desig=
n. A SSS gives you a nice flat trunk, extra storage space and saves over 17=
 pounds of dead weight versus a full size spare.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DM=
soNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Bob<o:p></o:p></p><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Bob Danielson<br>T=
R6 Interior Panels, Boot Covers and Fender Blankets<br>http://tr6.danielson=
family.org/PanelBootSales1.htm<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></p><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;paddin=
g:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:so=
[email-masked]">David Soknacki</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, July 1, =
2020 11:04 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">triu=
[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject: </b>[TR] Space-saver or full-size sp=
are?<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'>I had an alumin=
um fuel tank from Boyd Welding installed in my 74 TR6. I knew that it was l=
arger than the standard tank. So when I picked up my car, I wasn=E2=80=99t =
surprised to hear that my spare tire was a tight fit. Only today I found ou=
t that the spare fit only because it was deflated! Fortunately I made the d=
iscovery in my driveway.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin=
-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'>So I need a spare tire.<o:p></o:p></p><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'>What is the =
thinking of list members for getting a =E2=80=98space saver=E2=80=99 tire i=
nstead of one that is full size?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=
=3D'margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'>I wouldn=E2=80=99t plan to drive =
far or quickly on a space-saver, and having flat space in the boot would be=
 nice. On the other hand I=E2=80=99m not sure if my tailpipe would drag or =
whether a short drive on the space-saver would cause other problems.<o:p></=
o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'=
>The (deflated) spare is a P205/65 R15. If I were to replace it with a full=
 size tire, I plan to look at something as narrow as a 175/65R15. Being 30m=
m more narrow might even allow me to inflate my spare!<o:p></o:p></p><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'>Please let me=
 know your thoughts.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bot=
tom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'>Thanks so much.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNoS=
pacing>David Soknacki</p><p class=3DMsoNoSpacing>74 TR6 CF22072U</p><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'><span lang=3DE=
N-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>=
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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 12:57:30 +0000 (UTC)

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 And so I did.=C2=A0 Quite elaborate.=C2=A0 An additional three gallons mea=
ns another 75 miles or so between fills.=C2=A0 Cool.
Here's an idea for you.=C2=A0 I've always found the differential hump annoy=
ing, especially when putting a cooler behind the seats.=C2=A0 As it turns o=
ut that hump was there to accommodate the live axle and the diff on the IRS=
 models is well clear of the parcel shelf.=C2=A0 I removed my hump by drill=
ing out the spot welds and made up a flat plate to replace it.

I installed it using seam sealer and pop rivets.
I had to include a shut-off plate because the rear bulkhead panel had the c=
ut-out for the hump.=C2=A0 A new panel without the cut-out would look bette=
r. as would a new piece of carpet without the hump cut-out=C2=A0 But my car=
 is a driver and I left the old panel and carpet in place=C2=A0=20

Also, this mod would simplify the design of your tank.
=20
Dave=20

=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Danielson <[email-masked]>
To: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>; [email-masked] <soknacki@sokn=
acki.com>; [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thu, Jul 2, 2020 7:37 am
Subject: RE: [TR] Space-saver or full-size spare?

#yiv5263170508 #yiv5263170508 -- _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv5263170508 #y=
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line;}#yiv5263170508 .yiv5263170508MsoChpDefault {} _filtered {}#yiv5263170=
508 div.yiv5263170508WordSection1 {}#yiv5263170508 David=E2=80=A6 if you re=
ad my post, you=E2=80=99ll find links to the tank design and the Space Save=
r Spare =C2=A0 =C2=A0Bob Danielson
TR6 Interior Panels, Boot Covers and Fender Blankets
http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm =C2=A0From: DAVID MASSEY
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 8:14 AM
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] Space-saver or full-size spare? =C2=A0Or leave it deflate=
d and carry a can of Fix-A-Flat for when (if) you need it. =C2=A0Another op=
tion is to get a tyre/wheel from a TR3-4.=C2=A0 It has a narrower rim and t=
ire and will easily fit if the 205 just barely fits. =C2=A0I have a space-s=
aver spare but I forgot what it was from.=C2=A0 It opened up a nice bit of =
room in the well. =C2=A0So, does the new tank have a larger capacity? =C2=
=A0Dave  =C2=A0 =C2=A0-----Original Message-----
From: David Soknacki <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wed, Jul 1, 2020 10:02 pm
Subject: [TR] Space-saver or full-size spare?I had an aluminum fuel tank fr=
om Boyd Welding installed in my 74 TR6. I knew that it was larger than the =
standard tank. So when I picked up my car, I wasn=E2=80=99t surprised to he=
ar that my spare tire was a tight fit. Only today I found out that the spar=
e fit only because it was deflated! Fortunately I made the discovery in my =
driveway.So I need a spare tire.What is the thinking of list members for ge=
tting a =E2=80=98space saver=E2=80=99 tire instead of one that is full size=
?I wouldn=E2=80=99t plan to drive far or quickly on a space-saver, and havi=
ng flat space in the boot would be nice. On the other hand I=E2=80=99m not =
sure if my tailpipe would drag or whether a short drive on the space-saver =
would cause other problems.The (deflated) spare is a P205/65 R15. If I were=
 to replace it with a full size tire, I plan to look at something as narrow=
 as a 175/65R15. Being 30mm more narrow might even allow me to inflate my s=
pare!Please let me know your thoughts.Thanks so much.David Soknacki74 TR6 C=
F22072U=C2=A0** [email-masked] **

[email-masked] =C2=A0
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<div style=3D"color:black;font: 12pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<div> <font size=3D"3">And so I did.&nbsp; Quite elaborate.&nbsp; An additi=
onal three gallons means another 75 miles or so between fills.&nbsp; Cool.<=
/font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">Here's an idea for you.&nbsp; I've always found the d=
ifferential hump annoying, especially when putting a cooler behind the seat=
s.&nbsp; As it turns out that hump was there to accommodate the live axle a=
nd the diff on the IRS models is well clear of the parcel shelf.&nbsp; I re=
moved my hump by drilling out the spot welds and made up a flat plate to re=
place it.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><img src=3D"data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUh=
ecfK45+C+VwHhXKyAPCgAAAABJRU5ErkJggg=3D=3D" alt=3D""><br>
</font></div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div><font size=3D"3">I installed it using seam sealer and pop rivets.</fon=
t></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><img src=3D"data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUh=
AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC" alt=3D""></font></div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div><font size=3D"3">I had to include a shut-off plate because the rear bu=
lkhead panel had the cut-out for the hump.&nbsp; A new panel without the cu=
t-out would look better. as would a new piece of carpet without the hump cu=
t-out&nbsp; But my car is a driver and I left the old panel and carpet in p=
lace&nbsp; <br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">Also, this mod would simplify the design of your tank=
.</font><br>
<font size=3D"3"></font></div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----=
Original Message-----<br>
From: Bob Danielson &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: DAVID MASSEY &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; [email-masked] &lt;sokn=
[email-masked]&gt;; [email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&=
gt;<br>
Sent: Thu, Jul 2, 2020 7:37 am<br>
Subject: RE: [TR] Space-saver or full-size spare?<br>
<br>

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ou=E2=80=99ll find links to the tank design and the Space Saver Spare</div>

<div class=3D"yiv5263170508MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv5263170508MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv5263170508MsoNormal">Bob Danielson<br clear=3D"none">TR6 I=
nterior Panels, Boot Covers and Fender Blankets<br clear=3D"none">http://tr=
6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm</div>

<div class=3D"yiv5263170508MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv5263170508yqt8191021968" id=3D"yiv5263170508yqt49811">
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0in 0in;">
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>From: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:dave1massey=
@cs.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">DAVID MASSEY<=
/a><br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, July 2, 2020 8:14 AM<br clear=
=3D"none"><b>To: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:s=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m">[email-masked]</a>; <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:triumphs@=
autox.team.net">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject: <=
/b>Re: [TR] Space-saver or full-size spare?</div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv5263170508MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5263170508MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">Or leave it deflated and carry a can of Fix=
-A-Flat for when (if) you need it.</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5263170508MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5263170508MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">Another option is to get a tyre/wheel from =
a TR3-4.&nbsp; It has a narrower rim and tire and will easily fit if the 20=
5 just barely fits.</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5263170508MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5263170508MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">I have a space-saver spare but I forgot wha=
t it was from.&nbsp; It opened up a nice bit of room in the well.</span></d=
iv>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5263170508MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5263170508MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">So, does the new tank have a larger capacit=
y?</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5263170508MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5263170508MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">Dave </span=
><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"></spa=
n></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5263170508MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5263170508MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5263170508MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">-----Origin=
al Message-----<br clear=3D"none">From: David Soknacki &lt;soknacki@soknack=
i.com&gt;<br clear=3D"none">To: [email-masked] &lt;triumphs@autox.=
team.net&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Sent: Wed, Jul 1, 2020 10:02 pm<br clear=3D"=
none">Subject: [TR] Space-saver or full-size spare?</span></div>

<div id=3D"yiv5263170508">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5263170508MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">I had an aluminum fuel tank from Boyd Weldi=
ng installed in my 74 TR6. I knew that it was larger than the standard tank=
. So when I picked up my car, I wasn=E2=80=99t surprised to hear that my sp=
are tire was a tight fit. Only today I found out that the spare fit only be=
cause it was deflated! Fortunately I made the discovery in my driveway.</sp=
an></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5263170508MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">So I need a spare tire.</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5263170508MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">What is the thinking of list members for ge=
tting a =E2=80=98space saver=E2=80=99 tire instead of one that is full size=
?</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5263170508MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">I wouldn=E2=80=99t plan to drive far or qui=
ckly on a space-saver, and having flat space in the boot would be nice. On =
the other hand I=E2=80=99m not sure if my tailpipe would drag or whether a =
short drive on the space-saver would cause other problems.</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5263170508MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">The (deflated) spare is a P205/65 R15. If I=
 were to replace it with a full size tire, I plan to look at something as n=
arrow as a 175/65R15. Being 30mm more narrow might even allow me to inflate=
 my spare!</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5263170508MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">Please let me know your thoughts.</span></d=
iv>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5263170508MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">Thanks so much.</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5263170508MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">David Soknacki</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv5263170508MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">74 TR6 CF22072U</span></div>
</div>

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family:sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;</span></div>
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From: Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2020 12:19:50 -0400

On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 7:22 AM Bob Danielson
<[email-masked]> wrote:
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> the design was done with the use of a Space Saver Spare (SSS) in mind. Actually I’ve had a SSS in my car since ’08 (http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/SpaceSaverSpare.htm )

I'm not sure how I'd feel driving on a (minimum) 27 year old tire,
even at 50 MPH for 50 miles.  I'll never forget the day my original
unused Volvo space saver spare exploded in the back of the wagon.  I'm
just glad I wasn't driving when it happened.

As always, YMMV.

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From: Bob Danielson <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2020 15:50:38 -0400

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That write up was from =E2=80=9908 and I=E2=80=99m sure any junkyard can cr=
oss reference that tire to another newer one. =E2=80=A6. Which I probably s=
hould do.

Bob Danielson

From: Jeff Scarbrough
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2020 12:20 PM
To: Triumphs ([email-masked])
Subject: Re: [TR] Space-saver or full-size spare?

On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 7:22 AM Bob Danielson
<[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> the design was done with the use of a Space Saver Spare (SSS) in mind. Ac=
tually I=E2=80=99ve had a SSS in my car since =E2=80=9908 (http://tr6.danie=
lsonfamily.org/SpaceSaverSpare.htm )

As always, YMMV.

6.danielsonfamily.org

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gt; wrote:</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal>&gt; the design was done with the use of a Space Saver Spare (SSS) in=
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&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I'm not sure how I'd feel driving on a=
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miles.=C2=A0 I'll never forget the day my original</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>=
unused Volvo space saver spare exploded in the back of the wagon.=C2=A0 I'm=
</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>just glad I wasn't driving when it happened.</p><p=
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From: Chris Simo <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2020 15:53:44 -0400

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My space saver spare from an altima (i think), fit fine on the 6 with no
spacer.

Since I would not go much over 45 on a space saver spare, I'm pretty
confident I'd be ok.  But might be a good idea to put the oldest tire on
the rear....

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature">My space saver sp=
are from an altima (i think), fit fine on the 6 with no spacer.</div><div d=
ata-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature" dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div data-smartmai=
l=3D"gmail_signature" dir=3D"auto">Since I would not go much over 45 on a s=
pace saver spare, I&#39;m pretty confident I&#39;d be ok.=C2=A0 But might b=
e a good idea to put the oldest tire on the rear....</div></div>

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