Subject: Re: [TR] Commission Plate Rivets

From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2020 10:47:45 -0500

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Yes, I think I was able to find the correct rivets for both early cars (a
drive rivet, not a "pop" rivet) and late cars (a closed-end rivet).  If not
exact, they're *very* close.  I probably have many dozens of them --
certainly several lifetime's supply -- because I had to order a bunch to
get a few.

Here's are details front and back of the early drive rivet.
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-KX88bMw/0/a2ee6789/O/i-KX88bMw.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-LdxQ2BM/0/c84b7900/O/i-LdxQ2BM.jpg

Send me a note off-list, Brian, and we'll see what we can do.

BR,

Don
Saint Louis Missouri
1962 TR3B TSF202L

On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 10:35 AM Brian Thomas <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm looking to replicate the 4 rivets used to mount the commission plate
> on my TR2.
>
> Pop rivets I am familiar with have a hollow center when the rivet is
> installed.  The ones used to hold the plate leaves a metal cap in this
> opening.
>
> Has anyone had success finding this type of rivet?
>
> FYI, Rimmers shows "713531 - Pop Rivet - Closed End Type - 1/8 inch x 1/4
> inch" for this application and TRF subs 554407 for this.  As 554407 is also
> used to hold down the chrome capping on the top of a TR4A windshield (which
> I have), I had a look and the rivets used there are also hollow ...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Brian
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Yes, I think=C2=A0I was able to find the correct rivets fo=
r both early cars (a drive rivet, not a &quot;pop&quot; rivet) and late car=
s (a closed-end rivet).=C2=A0 If not exact, they&#39;re *very* close.=C2=A0=
 I probably have many dozens of them -- certainly several lifetime&#39;s su=
pply -- because I had to order a bunch to get a few.<div><br></div><div>Her=
e&#39;s are details front=C2=A0and back of the early drive rivet.</div><div=
><a href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-KX88bMw/0/a2ee6789/O/i-KX88=
bMw.jpg">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-KX88bMw/0/a2ee6789/O/i-KX88bMw=
.jpg</a><br><div><a href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-LdxQ2BM/0/c=
84b7900/O/i-LdxQ2BM.jpg">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-LdxQ2BM/0/c84b=
7900/O/i-LdxQ2BM.jpg</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Send me a note off-li=
st, Brian, and we&#39;ll see what we can do.</div><div><br></div><div>BR,</=
div><div><br></div><div>Don</div><div>Saint Louis Missouri</div><div>1962 T=
R3B TSF202L</div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 10:35 AM Bria=
n Thomas &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0p=
x 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br=
<br>
I&#39;m looking to replicate the 4 rivets used to mount the commission plat=
e on my TR2.=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
Pop rivets I am familiar with have a hollow center when the rivet is instal=
led.=C2=A0 The ones used to hold the plate leaves a metal cap in this openi=
ng.=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
Has anyone had success finding this type of rivet?=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
FYI, Rimmers shows &quot;713531 - Pop Rivet - Closed End Type - 1/8 inch x =
1/4 inch&quot; for this application and TRF subs 554407 for this.=C2=A0 As =
554407 is also used to hold down the chrome capping on the top of a TR4A wi=
ndshield (which I have), I had a look and the rivets used there are also ho=
llow ...<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Brian<br>
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This is excellent information and a detail most would overlook.  I reduced the cap diameter of an otherwise correctly sized aluminum pop rivet then glued a short length of the shaft in place to smoothly fill the hole.  It's very difficult to tell the difference from the factory rivet.  I thought this detail was important and I kept the original commission plate although it shows it's age. 
Dave H.  

>     On 06/20/2020 8:47 AM Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> 
>     Yes, I think I was able to find the correct rivets for both early cars (a drive rivet, not a "pop" rivet) and late cars (a closed-end rivet).  If not exact, they're *very* close.  I probably have many dozens of them -- certainly several lifetime's supply -- because I had to order a bunch to get a few.
> 
>     On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 10:35 AM Brian Thomas < [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked] > wrote:
> 
>         > > Hi,
> > 
> >         I'm looking to replicate the 4 rivets used to mount the commission plate on my TR2. 
> > 
> >         Pop rivets I am familiar with have a hollow center when the rivet is installed.  The ones used to hold the plate leaves a metal cap in this opening. 
> > 
> >         FYI, Rimmers shows "713531 - Pop Rivet - Closed End Type - 1/8 inch x 1/4 inch" for this application and TRF subs 554407 for this.  As 554407 is also used to hold down the chrome capping on the top of a TR4A windshield (which I have), I had a look and the rivets used there are also hollow ...
> > 
> >         Cheers,
> > 
> >         Brian
> >         Canada  K0H 2Y0                                       01 XKR,  75 John Deere 920
> > 
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   <span id="_mce_caret"><span style="font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">This is excellent information and a detail most would overlook.&nbsp; I reduced the cap diameter of an otherwise correctly sized aluminum pop rivet then glued a short length of the shaft in place to smoothly fill the hole.&nbsp; It's very difficult to tell the difference from the factory rivet.&nbsp; I thought this detail was important and I kept the original commission plate although it shows it's age.&nbsp;</span></span>
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    Yes, I think&nbsp;I was able to find the correct rivets for both early cars (a drive rivet, not a "pop" rivet) and late cars (a closed-end rivet).&nbsp; If not exact, they're *very* close.&nbsp; I probably have many dozens of them -- certainly several lifetime's supply -- because I had to order a bunch to get a few.
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     Here's are details front&nbsp;and back of the early drive rivet.
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     <a href="https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-KX88bMw/0/a2ee6789/O/i-KX88bMw.jpg">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-KX88bMw/0/a2ee6789/O/i-KX88bMw.jpg</a>
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      Send me a note off-list, Brian, and we'll see what we can do.
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     Hi,
     <br>
     <br>I'm looking to replicate the 4 rivets used to mount the commission plate on my TR2.&nbsp; 
     <br>
     <br>Pop rivets I am familiar with have a hollow center when the rivet is installed.&nbsp; The ones used to hold the plate leaves a metal cap in this opening.&nbsp; 
     <br>
     <br>Has anyone had success finding this type of rivet?&nbsp; 
     <br>
     <br>FYI, Rimmers shows "713531 - Pop Rivet - Closed End Type - 1/8 inch x 1/4 inch" for this application and TRF subs 554407 for this.&nbsp; As 554407 is also used to hold down the chrome capping on the top of a TR4A windshield (which I have), I had a look and the rivets used there are also hollow ...
     <br>
     <br>Cheers,
     <br>
     <br>Brian
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I looked into this once and believe it is called a blind rivet=E2=80=A6=E2=
=80=A6 Could be mistaken=E2=80=A6.. long time ago

> On Jun 20, 2020, at 12:08 PM, DAVE HOGYE <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> This is excellent information and a detail most would overlook.  I =
reduced the cap diameter of an otherwise correctly sized aluminum pop =
rivet then glued a short length of the shaft in place to smoothly fill =
the hole.  It's very difficult to tell the difference from the factory =
rivet.  I thought this detail was important and I kept the original =
commission plate although it shows it's age.=20
> Dave H.  =20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Yes, I think I was able to find the correct rivets for both early =
cars (a drive rivet, not a "pop" rivet) and late cars (a closed-end =
rivet).  If not exact, they're *very* close.  I probably have many =
dozens of them -- certainly several lifetime's supply -- because I had =
to order a bunch to get a few.
>>=20
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https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-KX88bMw/0/a2ee6789/O/i-KX88bMw.jpg =
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>> =
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-LdxQ2BM/0/c84b7900/O/i-LdxQ2BM.jpg =
<https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-LdxQ2BM/0/c84b7900/O/i-LdxQ2BM.jpg>=20=

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>>=20
>>=20
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>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 10:35 AM Brian Thomas < [email-masked] =
>> Hi,=20
>>=20
>> I'm looking to replicate the 4 rivets used to mount the commission =
plate on my TR2. =20
>>=20
>> Pop rivets I am familiar with have a hollow center when the rivet is =
installed.  The ones used to hold the plate leaves a metal cap in this =
opening. =20
>>=20
>> Has anyone had success finding this type of rivet? =20
>>=20
>> FYI, Rimmers shows "713531 - Pop Rivet - Closed End Type - 1/8 inch x =
1/4 inch" for this application and TRF subs 554407 for this.  As 554407 =
is also used to hold down the chrome capping on the top of a TR4A =
windshield (which I have), I had a look and the rivets used there are =
also hollow ...=20
>>=20
>> Cheers,=20
>>=20
>> Brian=20
>> _____________________________________________________=20
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helvetica; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">This is excellent information =
and a detail most would overlook.&nbsp; I reduced the cap diameter of an =
otherwise correctly sized aluminum pop rivet then glued a short length =
of the shaft in place to smoothly fill the hole.&nbsp; It's very =
difficult to tell the difference from the factory rivet.&nbsp; I thought =
this detail was important and I kept the original commission plate =
although it shows it's age.&nbsp;</span></span>
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    Yes, I think&nbsp;I was able to find the correct rivets for both =
early cars (a drive rivet, not a "pop" rivet) and late cars (a =
closed-end rivet).&nbsp; If not exact, they're *very* close.&nbsp; I =
probably have many dozens of them -- certainly several lifetime's supply =
-- because I had to order a bunch to get a few.
    <div class=3D"">
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     Here's are details front&nbsp;and back of the early drive rivet.
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    <div class=3D"">
     <a =
href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-KX88bMw/0/a2ee6789/O/i-KX88bMw=
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     <br class=3D"">
     <br class=3D"">I'm looking to replicate the 4 rivets used to mount =
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     <br class=3D"">
     <br class=3D"">Pop rivets I am familiar with have a hollow center =
when the rivet is installed.&nbsp; The ones used to hold the plate =
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     <br class=3D"">Has anyone had success finding this type of =
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     <br class=3D"">FYI, Rimmers shows "713531 - Pop Rivet - Closed End =
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     <br class=3D"">
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Yes Tom, the general class of any rivet that is affixed from only one side
is a "blind rivet".  There are a number of kinds within that term.  A
normal pop rivet is the most common kind of blind rivet.  There are
structural blind rivets, closed end blind rivets, drive rivets, and so on.

On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 1:10 PM Tom Householder <[email-masked]>
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> I looked into this once and believe it is called a blind rivet=E2=80=A6=
=E2=80=A6 Could be
> mistaken=E2=80=A6.. long time ago
>
>
>
> This is excellent information and a detail most would overlook.  I reduce=
d
> the cap diameter of an otherwise correctly sized aluminum pop rivet then
> glued a short length of the shaft in place to smoothly fill the hole.  It=
's
> very difficult to tell the difference from the factory rivet.  I thought
> this detail was important and I kept the original commission plate althou=
gh
> it shows it's age.
> drive rivet, not a "pop" rivet) and late cars (a closed-end rivet).  If n=
ot
> On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 10:35 AM Brian Thomas < [email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> inch" for this application and TRF subs 554407 for this.  As 554407 is al=
so
> used to hold down the chrome capping on the top of a TR4A windshield (whi=
ch
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Yes Tom, the general class of any rivet that is affixed fr=
om only one side is a &quot;blind rivet&quot;.=C2=A0 There are a number of =
kinds within that term.=C2=A0 A normal pop rivet is the most common kind of=
 blind rivet.=C2=A0 There are structural blind rivets, closed end blind riv=
ets, drive rivets, and so on.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 1:10 PM Tom Household=
er &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0p=
x 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><d=
iv style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;">I looked into this once and believe=
 it is called a blind rivet=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6 Could be mistaken=E2=80=A6.. =
long time ago<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><div>On Jun 20, 2020, at 12:08 PM, DAVE HOGYE &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote=
:</div><br><div>

 =20
  =20
=20
 <div>
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
   <span id=3D"gmail-m_8870789632619575705_mce_caret"><span style=3D"font-f=
amily:helvetica;font-size:12pt">This is excellent information and a detail =
most would overlook.=C2=A0 I reduced the cap diameter of an otherwise corre=
ctly sized aluminum pop rivet then glued a short length of the shaft in pla=
ce to smoothly fill the hole.=C2=A0 It&#39;s very difficult to tell the dif=
ference from the factory rivet.=C2=A0 I thought this detail was important a=
nd I kept the original commission plate although it shows it&#39;s age.=C2=
=A0</span></span>
  </div>
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
   <span id=3D"gmail-m_8870789632619575705_mce_caret"><span style=3D"font-f=
amily:helvetica;font-size:12pt">Dave H.=C2=A0=C2=A0</span></span>
   <br>
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  <blockquote type=3D"cite">
   <div>
    On 06/20/2020 8:47 AM Don Hiscock &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:don.hiscock@gma=
il.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
   </div>
   <div>
    <br>
   </div>
   <div>
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    Yes, I think=C2=A0I was able to find the correct rivets for both early =
cars (a drive rivet, not a &quot;pop&quot; rivet) and late cars (a closed-e=
nd rivet).=C2=A0 If not exact, they&#39;re *very* close.=C2=A0 I probably h=
ave many dozens of them -- certainly several lifetime&#39;s supply -- becau=
se I had to order a bunch to get a few.
    <div>
     <br>
    </div>
    <div>
     Here&#39;s are details front=C2=A0and back of the early drive rivet.
    </div>
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     <a href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-KX88bMw/0/a2ee6789/O/i-=
KX88bMw.jpg" target=3D"_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-KX88bMw/=
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      Send me a note off-list, Brian, and we&#39;ll see what we can do.
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     </div>
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      BR,
     </div>
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      <br>
     </div>
     <div>
      Don
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     <div>
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u.ca</a>&gt; wrote:
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    <blockquote>
     Hi,
     <br>
     <br>I&#39;m looking to replicate the 4 rivets used to mount the commis=
sion plate on my TR2.=C2=A0=20
     <br>
     <br>Pop rivets I am familiar with have a hollow center when the rivet =
is installed.=C2=A0 The ones used to hold the plate leaves a metal cap in t=
his opening.=C2=A0=20
     <br>
     <br>Has anyone had success finding this type of rivet?=C2=A0=20
     <br>
     <br>FYI, Rimmers shows &quot;713531 - Pop Rivet - Closed End Type - 1/=
8 inch x 1/4 inch&quot; for this application and TRF subs 554407 for this.=
=C2=A0 As 554407 is also used to hold down the chrome capping on the top of=
 a TR4A windshield (which I have), I had a look and the rivets used there a=
re also hollow ...
     <br>
     <br>Cheers,
     <br>
     <br>Brian
     <br>_____________________________________________________
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Tom,
Yes, that=E2=80=99s what I have always heard too.=20
Bill

Serenity Now......

On Jun 20, 2020, at 1:10 PM, Tom Householder <[email-masked]> wrote=
:

=EF=BB=BFI looked into this once and believe it is called a blind rivet=E2=80=
=A6=E2=80=A6 Could be mistaken=E2=80=A6.. long time ago

>> This is excellent information and a detail most would overlook.  I reduce=
d the cap diameter of an otherwise correctly sized aluminum pop rivet then g=
lued a short length of the shaft in place to smoothly fill the hole.  It's v=
ery difficult to tell the difference from the factory rivet.  I thought this=
 detail was important and I kept the original commission plate although it s=
hows it's age.=20
>> Yes, I think I was able to find the correct rivets for both early cars (a=
 drive rivet, not a "pop" rivet) and late cars (a closed-end rivet).  If not=
 exact, they're *very* close.  I probably have many dozens of them -- certai=
nly several lifetime's supply -- because I had to order a bunch to get a few=
.
>> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-KX88bMw/0/a2ee6789/O/i-KX88bMw.jpg=20=

>> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-LdxQ2BM/0/c84b7900/O/i-LdxQ2BM.jpg=20=

>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 10:35 AM Brian Thomas < [email-masked]> wrote=
:=20
>> Hi,=20
>>=20
>> I'm looking to replicate the 4 rivets used to mount the commission plate o=
n my TR2. =20
>>=20
>> Pop rivets I am familiar with have a hollow center when the rivet is inst=
alled.  The ones used to hold the plate leaves a metal cap in this opening. =
=20
>> FYI, Rimmers shows "713531 - Pop Rivet - Closed End Type - 1/8 inch x 1/4=
 inch" for this application and TRF subs 554407 for this.  As 554407 is also=
 used to hold down the chrome capping on the top of a TR4A windshield (which=
 I have), I had a look and the rivets used there are also hollow ...=20
>> Brian Thomas                             E-Mail:  [email-masked]=
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>> Canada  K0H 2Y0                                       01 XKR,  75 John De=
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Tom,<div>Yes, that=E2=80=99s what I have al=
ways heard too.&nbsp;<div>Bill<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Serenity Now......</d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jun 20, 2020, at 1:10 PM, Tom Householder &lt;trh=
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 http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html charset=3Dutf-8">I looked i=
nto this once and believe it is called a blind rivet=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6 Could=
 be mistaken=E2=80=A6.. long time ago<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><d=
iv class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jun 20, 2020, at 12:08 PM=
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olor: #333333;" class=3D"">
   <span id=3D"_mce_caret" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: helvetica;=
 font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">This is excellent information and a detail mos=
t would overlook.&nbsp; I reduced the cap diameter of an otherwise correctly=
 sized aluminum pop rivet then glued a short length of the shaft in place to=
 smoothly fill the hole.&nbsp; It's very difficult to tell the difference fr=
om the factory rivet.&nbsp; I thought this detail was important and I kept t=
he original commission plate although it shows it's age.&nbsp;</span></span>=

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olor: #333333;" class=3D"">
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 font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">Dave H.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></span>
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    On 06/20/2020 8:47 AM Don Hiscock &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:don.hiscock@gmai=
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    Yes, I think&nbsp;I was able to find the correct rivets for both early c=
ars (a drive rivet, not a "pop" rivet) and late cars (a closed-end rivet).&n=
bsp; If not exact, they're *very* close.&nbsp; I probably have many dozens o=
f them -- certainly several lifetime's supply -- because I had to order a bu=
nch to get a few.
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     Here's are details front&nbsp;and back of the early drive rivet.
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     <a href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-KX88bMw/0/a2ee6789/O/i-K=
X88bMw.jpg" class=3D"">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-KX88bMw/0/a2ee678=
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LdxQ2BM.jpg" class=3D"">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-LdxQ2BM/0/c84b79=
00/O/i-LdxQ2BM.jpg</a>
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      Send me a note off-list, Brian, and we'll see what we can do.
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      BR,
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      Don
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     Hi,
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     <br class=3D"">I'm looking to replicate the 4 rivets used to mount the c=
ommission plate on my TR2.&nbsp;=20
     <br class=3D"">
     <br class=3D"">Pop rivets I am familiar with have a hollow center when t=
he rivet is installed.&nbsp; The ones used to hold the plate leaves a metal c=
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     <br class=3D"">
     <br class=3D"">Has anyone had success finding this type of rivet?&nbsp;=
=20
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     <br class=3D"">FYI, Rimmers shows "713531 - Pop Rivet - Closed End Type=
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bsp; As 554407 is also used to hold down the chrome capping on the top of a T=
R4A windshield (which I have), I had a look and the rivets used there are al=
so hollow ...
     <br class=3D"">
     <br class=3D"">Cheers,
     <br class=3D"">
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 hi brianyes i found the rivets you need.problem is i had to buy a minimum =
of 100.
id need to go search my records if no one else has some
frank

    On Saturday, June 20, 2020, 08:36:01 AM PDT, Brian Thomas <thomasb@quee=
nsu.ca> wrote: =20
=20
 Hi,

I'm looking to replicate the 4 rivets used to mount the commission plate on=
 my TR2.=C2=A0=20

ng.=C2=A0=20

Has anyone had success finding this type of rivet?=C2=A0=20

FYI, Rimmers shows "713531 - Pop Rivet - Closed End Type - 1/8 inch x 1/4 i=
nch" for this application and TRF subs 554407 for this.=C2=A0 As 554407 is =
also used to hold down the chrome capping on the top of a TR4A windshield (=
which I have), I had a look and the rivets used there are also hollow ...

Cheers,

Brian
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r" data-setdir=3D"false">yes i found the rivets you need.</div><div dir=3D"=
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=3D"false">frank</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div=
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                <div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">I'm looking to replicate the 4 rivets used to mount the=
 commission plate on my TR2.&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">Pop rivets I am familiar with have a hollow center when the r=
ivet is installed.&nbsp; The ones used to hold the plate leaves a metal cap=
 in this opening.&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Has anyone had success finding this type of rivet?&nbsp; <br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">FYI, Rimmers shows "713531 - Pop Riv=
et - Closed End Type - 1/8 inch x 1/4 inch" for this application and TRF su=
bs 554407 for this.&nbsp; As 554407 is also used to hold down the chrome ca=
pping on the top of a TR4A windshield (which I have), I had a look and the =
rivets used there are also hollow ...<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">Cheers,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">Brian<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">_________________________________________=
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