Subject: [TR] TR3 - how does the door latch strap fasten to the door latch

From: David Griffiths <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 12:24:27 +0200

Hello all,

TR3. LO15005/TS10601E

I would be very grateful if someone could take a close up picture and/or a description of the way the door-opening strap on the inside of the door fastens to the door latch. I understand that the strap inner is of tough leather, about a quarter inch in diameter, but I don’t know how to fasten it to the latch, which on this car is just a threaded rod sticking out of the vinyl of the door with an acorn nut on it. On the rod there is a bit of metal like what you find on a zipper to move it up and down, with “YKK” on it. Perhaps it is. The only commercial thing I could find was at Macy’s, but the pic was so small it didn’t help much: https://macysgarage.com/parts-new.htm. I have the outer sleeve. 

Thanks, 
Dave
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From: Keith Jordan <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 11:33:54 -0500

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Answering David Griffiths question about the door latch strap, if =
you=E2=80=99re referring to the inside door pull, this was the way one =
opened the doors on a TR2 through TR3. It changed to the cable-pull =
inside the door pocket on the TR3A.

The pull was a leather =E2=80=9Crope,=E2=80=9D in essence, with =
triangular =E2=80=9Chog rings=E2=80=9D at each end. This was encased in =
a vinyl or leather sheath and attached to the door latch (on a =
protruding threaded rod) at the rear of the door and capped at the other =
end with a tapered ferule which was screw to the top of the door panel =
just behind the forward chrome sidescreen wedge.

The leather insides and hardware are available from Macy=E2=80=99s =
Garage and you can have an upholstery shop sew the outside covering. On =
my current interior, I did just that and the upholstery shop cost was =
about $40, including material. The threaded rod at the rear and the =
ferule/screw at the front go through the hog rings to attach. Andrew=E2=80=
=99s photo of the red pull shows the rear attachment very well. For =
additional installation info, see John Durant=E2=80=99s series of =
threads on upholstery at:

=
https://www.britishcarforum.com/bcf/showthread.php?109923-Upholstery-!/pag=
e5&highlight=3Dupholstery =
<https://www.britishcarforum.com/bcf/showthread.php?109923-Upholstery-!/pa=
ge5&highlight=3Dupholstery>

Starting at number 88.

Hopefully this answers all the questions.

Keith Jordan
1957 TR3 TS20447LO=

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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Answering David Griffiths question about the door latch =
strap, if you=E2=80=99re referring to the inside door pull, this was the =
way one opened the doors on a TR2 through TR3. It changed to the =
cable-pull inside the door pocket on the TR3A.<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">The pull was a leather =E2=80=9Crope,=E2=80=
=9D in essence, with triangular =E2=80=9Chog rings=E2=80=9D at each end. =
This was encased in a vinyl or leather sheath and attached to the door =
latch (on a protruding threaded rod) at the rear of the door and capped =
at the other end with a tapered ferule which was screw to the top of the =
door panel just behind the forward chrome sidescreen wedge.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">The leather insides and =
hardware are available from Macy=E2=80=99s Garage and you can have an =
upholstery shop sew the outside covering. On my current interior, I did =
just that and the upholstery shop cost was about $40, including =
material. The threaded rod at the rear and the ferule/screw at the front =
go through the hog rings to attach. Andrew=E2=80=99s photo of the red =
pull shows the rear attachment very well. For additional installation =
info, see John Durant=E2=80=99s series of threads on upholstery =
at:</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><a =
href=3D"https://www.britishcarforum.com/bcf/showthread.php?109923-Upholste=
ry-!/page5&amp;highlight=3Dupholstery" =
class=3D"">https://www.britishcarforum.com/bcf/showthread.php?109923-Uphol=
stery-!/page5&amp;highlight=3Dupholstery</a></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Starting at number 88.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Hopefully this answers =
all the questions.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Keith Jordan</div><div class=3D"">1957 TR3 =
TS20447LO</div></body></html>=

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From: John Reed <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 18:57:35 +0000

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Hey Dave,
Attached is a photo of the pull cord on a TR3 (maybe TR2) with the original=
 interior.  I took this sometime in the early 1990s, but I don't recall whe=
n, where or the owner.

I made mine by taking a piece of braided wire and creating loops on both en=
ds using some wire crimps (probably using electrical crimp connectors with =
the outer plastic removed).  I ran this wire through a rubber hose of a len=
gth so that part of the loop stuck out one end by about 1/2" (for the rear =
stud end) and maybe a bit more on the front end.  The crimps were inside th=
e hose.  I took that and some pieces of interior material to a local uphols=
tery shop.  He wrapped the material around the hose and sewed a seam tight =
against the hose.  The rear end was also sewed shut.  I poked a hole in mat=
erial at the rear where the loop stuck out past the hose and fit that over =
the latch stud and secured it with an acorn nut.   And poked another hole i=
n the material for the front screw to pass.  The seam ran along the bottom =
of the pull strap.  I bought a used front trim piece, but when I saw the co=
ndition of it, I instead used a convertible top bow finisher.  It was the s=
ame thing and new.  If I did it again I'd probably buy the parts from Mark =
Macy and have those covered.

The photo in Piggott's book is a bit different.  It shows the material stop=
ping before it gets to the latch stud.  I don't know which is correct, but =
the owner of the vehicle in my photo told me it was original and the one in=
 the book looks restored.

best,
John

-----Original Message-----
From: David Griffiths <[email-masked]>
To: Triumph_send_message <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 5:24
Subject: [TR] TR3 - how does the door latch strap fasten to the door latch

Hello all,

TR3. LO15005/TS10601E

I would be very grateful if someone could take a close up picture and/or a =
description of the way the door-opening strap on the inside of the door fas=
tens to the door latch. I understand that the strap inner is of tough leath=
er, about a quarter inch in diameter, but I don?t know how to fasten it to =
the latch, which on this car is just a threaded rod sticking out of the vin=
yl of the door with an acorn nut on it. On the rod there is a bit of metal =
like what you find on a zipper to move it up and down, with ?YKK? on it. Pe=
rhaps it is. The only commercial thing I could find was at Macy?s, but the =
pic was so small it didn?t help much: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.ou=
tlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fmacysgarage.com%2Fparts-new.htm&amp;data=3D0=
2%7C01%7C%7C62da71f1e18a42e1068408d803051db8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa=
aaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637262667818617103&amp;sdata=3DQ1aziC2U3lJwvPGyMyuWKjEB7ga%2=
Ft4wqxARjXU9KYqs%3D&amp;reserved=3D0. I have the outer sleeve.

Thanks,
Dave

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Hey Dave,</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;=
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Attached is a photo of the pull cord on a TR3 (maybe TR2) with the original=
 interior.&nbsp; I took this sometime in the early 1990s, but I don't recal=
l when, where or the owner.&nbsp;
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;=
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<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;=
 color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
I made mine by taking a piece of braided wire and creating loops on both en=
ds using some wire crimps (probably using electrical crimp connectors with =
the outer plastic removed).&nbsp; I ran this wire through a rubber hose of =
a length so that part of the loop stuck
 out one end by about 1/2&quot; (for the rear stud end) and maybe a bit mor=
e on the front end.&nbsp; The crimps were inside the hose.&nbsp; I took tha=
t and some pieces of interior material to a local upholstery shop.&nbsp; He=
 wrapped the material around the hose and sewed a seam
 tight against the hose.&nbsp; The rear end was also sewed shut.&nbsp; I po=
ked a hole in material at the rear where the loop stuck out past the hose a=
nd fit that over the latch stud and secured it with an acorn nut.&nbsp;&nbs=
p; And poked another hole in the material for the front
 screw to pass.&nbsp; The seam ran along the bottom of the pull strap.&nbsp=
; I bought a used front trim piece, but when I saw the condition of it, I i=
nstead used a convertible top bow finisher.&nbsp; It was the same thing and=
 new.&nbsp; If I did it again I'd probably buy the parts
 from Mark Macy and have those covered.<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;=
 color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;=
 color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
The photo in Piggott's book is a bit different.&nbsp; It shows the material=
 stopping before it gets to the latch stud.&nbsp; I don't know which is cor=
rect, but the owner of the vehicle in my photo told me it was original and =
the one in the book looks restored.&nbsp;
<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>best,</div>
<div>John<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: David Griffiths &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: Triumph_send_message &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Thu, May 28, 2020 5:24<br>
Subject: [TR] TR3 - how does the door latch strap fasten to the door latch<=
br>
<br>
Hello all,<br>
<br>
TR3. LO15005/TS10601E<br>
<br>
I would be very grateful if someone could take a close up picture and/or a =
description of the way the door-opening strap on the inside of the door fas=
tens to the door latch. I understand that the strap inner is of tough leath=
er, about a quarter inch in diameter,
 but I don?t know how to fasten it to the latch, which on this car is just =
a threaded rod sticking out of the vinyl of the door with an acorn nut on i=
t. On the rod there is a bit of metal like what you find on a zipper to mov=
e it up and down, with ?YKK? on
 it. Perhaps it is. The only commercial thing I could find was at Macy?s, b=
ut the pic was so small it didn?t help much:
<a href=3D"https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2=
F%2Fmacysgarage.com%2Fparts-new.htm&amp;amp;data=3D02%7C01%7C%7C62da71f1e18=
a42e1068408d803051db8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C63726266=
7818617103&amp;amp;sdata=3DQ1aziC2U3lJwvPGyMyuWKjEB7ga%2Ft4wqxARjXU9KYqs%3D=
&amp;amp;reserved=3D0">
https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fmacysga=
rage.com%2Fparts-new.htm&amp;amp;data=3D02%7C01%7C%7C62da71f1e18a42e1068408=
d803051db8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637262667818617103&=
amp;amp;sdata=3DQ1aziC2U3lJwvPGyMyuWKjEB7ga%2Ft4wqxARjXU9KYqs%3D&amp;amp;re=
served=3D0</a>.
 I have the outer sleeve. <br>
<br>
Thanks, <br>
Dave<br>
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