Subject: Re: [TR] 62 TR4

From: "wbeech" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 09:41:48 -0500

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That's where I would start, take apart and clean to see of that makes the
difference.  Of course, double check the wiring connections first for any
looseness. 

Just an observation, the TR3 style solenoid had the remote-start button so
you would not have to run-and-bump should the switch fail.  Real handy when
working under the bonnet as well.

Bill B.

TS30800L

From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of dave
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 9:27 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [TR] 62 TR4

Recently the starter switch seemed to fail.  I got in it and no power
nothing.  I put my hand under the switch and pushed on the wires, then it
started up and ran.

Yesterday again no power.  We pushed the car across the alley and over a few
bumps into my driveway.  Then it had power.

Does it sound like the switch is bad?  Likely it's the original switch.  The
car did sit for 25 years in a warehouse before I got it about 10 years ago.

Should I get another switch?  Try to repair the existing?  Maybe take it
apart (can I do that?) and clean it?

Anyone run into this?

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class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>That&#8217;s where I =
would start, take apart and clean to see of that makes the =
difference.&nbsp; Of course, double check the wiring connections first =
for any looseness. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Just an observation, the =
TR3 style solenoid had the remote-start button so you would not have to =
run-and-bump should the switch fail.&nbsp; Real handy when working under =
the bonnet as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Bill =
B.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>TS30800L<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs =
[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>dave<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 10, 2020 9:27 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> [TR] 62 =
TR4<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Recently the =
starter switch seemed to fail.&nbsp; I got in it and no power =
nothing.&nbsp; I put my hand under the switch and pushed on the wires, =
then it started up and ran.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Yesterday =
again no power.&nbsp; We pushed the car across the alley and over a few =
bumps into my driveway.&nbsp; Then it had power.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Does it =
sound like the switch is bad?&nbsp; Likely it&#8217;s the original =
switch.&nbsp; The car did sit for 25 years in a warehouse before I got =
it about 10 years ago.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Should I get =
another switch?&nbsp; Try to repair the existing?&nbsp; Maybe take it =
apart (can I do that?) and clean it?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Anyone run =
into this?<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>
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From: "dave" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 09:47:01 -0500

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The starter solenoid is on the car.  It works fine but since the switch
disconnects power to the car, the electric fuel pump, and the ignition coil,
that's not going to get the car started.

From: wbeech <[email-masked]> 
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 9:42 AM
To: 'dave' <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
Subject: RE: [TR] 62 TR4

Bill B.

TS30800L

Anyone run into this?

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link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The starter solenoid is on the car.&nbsp; It works =
fine but since the switch disconnects power to the car, the electric =
fuel pump, and the ignition coil, that&#8217;s not going to get the car =
started.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> wbeech =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 10, 2020 9:42 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> 'dave' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [TR] 62 =
TR4<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>That&#8217;s where I would start, take apart and =
clean to see of that makes the difference.&nbsp; Of course, double check =
the wiring connections first for any looseness. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Just an observation, the =
TR3 style solenoid had the remote-start button so you would not have to =
run-and-bump should the switch fail.&nbsp; Real handy when working under =
the bonnet as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Bill =
B.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>TS30800L<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs [<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:triumphs-bounces@a=
utox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>dave<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, =
March 10, 2020 9:27 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b=
>Subject:</b> [TR] 62 TR4<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
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 Are you referring to the ignition switch?=C2=A0 I had to replace the switc=
h on my TR6.=C2=A0 It would cut out at speed on the highway and I had to wi=
ggle it to restore power to the coil and make it go again.=C2=A0 Meantime t=
he exhaust would fill with unburned air/fuel mixture and when the power was=
 restored "BANG."
Oh, and the overdrive would drop out making matters all the worse.
=20
Dave=20

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From: dave <[email-masked]>
To: triumphs <[email-masked]>
Sent: Tue, Mar 10, 2020 9:27 am
Subject: [TR] 62 TR4

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t started up and ran. =C2=A0Yesterday again no power.=C2=A0 We pushed the c=
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=99s the original switch.=C2=A0 The car did sit for 25 years in a warehouse=
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<div> <font size=3D"3">Are you referring to the ignition switch?&nbsp; I ha=
d to replace the switch on my TR6.&nbsp; It would cut out at speed on the h=
ighway and I had to wiggle it to restore power to the coil and make it go a=
gain.&nbsp; Meantime the exhaust would fill with unburned air/fuel mixture =
and when the power was restored "BANG."</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">Oh, and the overdrive would drop out making matters a=
ll the worse.</font><br>
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<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
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From: dave &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
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Subject: [TR] 62 TR4<br>
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<div class=3D"yiv2297283237MsoNormal">Recently the starter switch seemed to=
 fail.&nbsp; I got in it and no power nothing.&nbsp; I put my hand under th=
e switch and pushed on the wires, then it started up and ran.</div>

<div class=3D"yiv2297283237MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv2297283237MsoNormal">Yesterday again no power.&nbsp; We pu=
shed the car across the alley and over a few bumps into my driveway.&nbsp; =
Then it had power.</div>

<div class=3D"yiv2297283237MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv2297283237MsoNormal">Does it sound like the switch is bad?=
&nbsp; Likely it=E2=80=99s the original switch.&nbsp; The car did sit for 2=
5 years in a warehouse before I got it about 10 years ago.</div>

<div class=3D"yiv2297283237MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv2297283237MsoNormal">Should I get another switch?&nbsp; Tr=
y to repair the existing?&nbsp; Maybe take it apart (can I do that?) and cl=
ean it?</div>

<div class=3D"yiv2297283237MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv2297283237MsoNormal">Anyone run into this?</div>
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From: "Randall" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 08:52:14 -0700

Several times now, I've had similar behavior caused by the 'Lucar' quick
connects.  They get into a state where they seem tight (won't come off with
a light tug) but don't always make good contact.

You might try crimping the female quick connects a bit tighter and see if
that solves the problem.

If it is the switch, it's probably not worth trying to clean/repair it.  I'm
not familiar with the TR4 switch, but on the TR3 switch it's easy to drill
out the rivets so you can get the switch apart, then use 10-32 bolts & nuts
to put it back together.

-- Randall 
56 TR3 TS13571L once and future daily driver
71 Stag LE1473 - awaiting engine rebuild
71-2-3 Stag - awaiting gearbox rebuild 

> Recently the starter switch seemed to fail.  I got in it and 
> no power nothing.  I put my hand under the switch and pushed 
> on the wires, then it started up and ran.