Subject: Re: [TR] weber carbs

From: "dave" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2020 21:00:58 -0600

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I think I found the ID - could it be a 32-36 DGV?

From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of dave
Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2020 8:51 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [TR] weber carbs

We have 2 of these.  They came off a TR6.  Can anyone tell me exactly what
weber carb it is?

Does anyone know if we can put 3 on a triple Stromberg setup TR6?

And, obviously with a different manifold, could we put them on the 62 TR4?

Btw both cars have a lot of performance mods so they won't go to waste!

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class=3DMsoNormal>I think I found the ID &#8211; could it be a 32-36 =
DGV?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>dave<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 4, 2020 8:51 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> [TR] weber =
carbs<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>We have 2 of =
these.&nbsp; They came off a TR6.&nbsp; Can anyone tell me exactly what =
weber carb it is?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Does anyone =
know if we can put 3 on a triple Stromberg setup TR6?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>And, =
obviously with a different manifold, could we put them on the 62 =
TR4?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Btw both cars have a lot of performance mods so they =
won&#8217;t go to waste!<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>
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From: Mark J Bradakis <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 01:22:45 -0700

On 2/4/20 8:00 PM, dave wrote:
>
> I think I found the ID – could it be a 32-36 DGV?
>
>

Yep.

mjb.

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From: Michael Marr <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 13:02:57 +0000

I don’t know a lot about Weber carbs, but I believe that these particular carbs are progressive choke - that is, at normal throttle openings only one choke (the smaller one) is in use.  The second choke opens only when the throttle is opened wide.  I believe this style of Weber was developed to give cars the economy of a single choke carb under normal driving conditions, with the ability to greatly increase mixture flow to the engine when additional power was needed. As such, I would think that it would be difficult to synchronize a pair of them. But, as I said up front, I know very little about Weber carbs...

Mike

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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 13:07:34 +0000 (UTC)

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 Indeed, My 79 Mustang had just sort of carb.=C2=A0 It is a good design.=C2=
=A0 Can't say the same for that toilet-trap manifold.=C2=A0 fuel will colle=
ct in the low spot until you get on the throttle when it all gets sucked in=
to the engine all at once.
=20
Dave=20

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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Marr <[email-masked]>
To: Mark J Bradakis <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wed, Feb 5, 2020 7:03 am
Subject: Re: [TR] weber carbs

I don=E2=80=99t know a lot about Weber carbs, but I believe that these part=
icular carbs are progressive choke - that is, at normal throttle openings o=
nly one choke (the smaller one) is in use.=C2=A0 The second choke opens onl=
y when the throttle is opened wide.=C2=A0 I believe this style of Weber was=
 developed to give cars the economy of a single choke carb under normal dri=
ving conditions, with the ability to greatly increase mixture flow to the e=
ngine when additional power was needed. As such, I would think that it woul=
d be difficult to synchronize a pair of them. But, as I said up front, I kn=
ow very little about Weber carbs...

Mike

Michael Marr

Mobile:=C2=A0 630-202-0065

Sent from my iPad

>=20
>>=20
>> I think I found the ID =E2=80=93 could it be a 32-36 DGV?
>>=20
>>=20
>=20
> Yep.
>=20
> mjb.
>=20

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<div> <font size=3D"3">Indeed, My 79 Mustang had just sort of carb.&nbsp; I=
t is a good design.&nbsp; Can't say the same for that toilet-trap manifold.=
&nbsp; fuel will collect in the low spot until you get on the throttle when=
 it all gets sucked into the engine all at once.</font><br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
<br>
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Original Message-----<br>
From: Michael Marr &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: Mark J Bradakis &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: [email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Wed, Feb 5, 2020 7:03 am<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] weber carbs<br>
<br>

<div dir=3D"ltr">I don=E2=80=99t know a lot about Weber carbs, but I believ=
e that these particular carbs are progressive choke - that is, at normal th=
rottle openings only one choke (the smaller one) is in use.&nbsp; The secon=
d choke opens only when the throttle is opened wide.&nbsp; I believe this s=
tyle of Weber was developed to give cars the economy of a single choke carb=
 under normal driving conditions, with the ability to greatly increase mixt=
ure flow to the engine when additional power was needed. As such, I would t=
hink that it would be difficult to synchronize a pair of them. But, as I sa=
id up front, I know very little about Weber carbs...<br clear=3D"none"><br =
clear=3D"none">Mike<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Michael Marr<br cl=
ear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Mobile:&nbsp; 630-202-0065<br clear=3D"none=
"><br clear=3D"none">Sent from my iPad<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"=
>&gt; On Feb 5, 2020, at 02:23, Mark J Bradakis &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" ymail=
to=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" removedlink__33=
b28e13-998d-4fc9-abe0-8a0a934a6437__href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mark@=
bradakis.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt;&=
gt; On 2/4/20 8:00 PM, dave wrote:<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; <br clear=3D"=
none">&gt;&gt; I think I found the ID =E2=80=93 could it be a 32-36 DGV?<br=
 clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt=
; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Yep.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&g=
t; mjb.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none"><br>
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From: "wbeech" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 09:21:52 -0600

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Dave,

Measure the openings, one should be 32mm, the other 36mm.  

BTW, I might be interested in one if you are getting rid of them.

B

From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of dave
Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2020 9:01 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] weber carbs

From: Triumphs <[email-masked]
Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2020 8:51 PM
Subject: [TR] weber carbs

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style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Dave,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Measure the openings, =
one should be 32mm, the other 36mm.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>BTW, I might be =
interested in one if you are getting rid of =
them.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>B<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs =
[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>dave<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 4, 2020 9:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] weber =
carbs<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I think I =
found the ID &#8211; could it be a 32-36 DGV?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
am.net</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>dave<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, =
February 4, 2020 8:51 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b=
>Subject:</b> [TR] weber carbs<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 17:37:24 +0000 (UTC)

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 Well, yes, they would.=C2=A0 But they cost more.
=20
Dave=20

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From: Michael Marr <[email-masked]>
To: Mark J Bradakis <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wed, Feb 5, 2020 9:58 am
Subject: Re: [TR] weber carbs

Apparently, they put this exact set-up on Nissan 240, 260, and 280Zs, too. =
=C2=A0=C2=A0
https://forums.hybridz.org/topic/78940-dual-weber-3236-dgv-downdrafts-verse=
-su-carbs/
Wouldn=E2=80=99t DCOEs be more efficient, from an airflow viewpoint, in tha=
t they are horizontal, vs the downdraft DGV?
Mike

Michael Marr

Mobile: =C2=A0630-202-0065
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 5, 2020, at 09:52, Michael Marr <[email-masked]> wrote:

Well, having written what I wrote, I did a little research and found that s=
omeone is actually offering a dual 32/36 DGEV setup for a TR7. =C2=A0So may=
be it=E2=80=99s easier to do than I thought. I would think this would be a =
lot of carb for this engine, however.
https://www.amazon.com/TRIUMPH-DUAL-WEBER-CONVERSION-P28-010/dp/B01N5QPJC6
Mike

Michael Marr

Mobile: =C2=A0630-202-0065
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 5, 2020, at 07:03, Michael Marr <[email-masked]> wrote:

I don=E2=80=99t know a lot about Weber carbs, but I believe that these part=
icular carbs are progressive choke - that is, at normal throttle openings o=
nly one choke (the smaller one) is in use. =C2=A0The second choke opens onl=
y when the throttle is opened wide. =C2=A0I believe this style of Weber was=
 developed to give cars the economy of a single choke carb under normal dri=
ving conditions, with the ability to greatly increase mixture flow to the e=
ngine when additional power was needed. As such, I would think that it woul=
d be difficult to synchronize a pair of them. But, as I said up front, I kn=
ow very little about Weber carbs...

Mike

Michael Marr

Mobile: =C2=A0630-202-0065

Sent from my iPad

Yep.

mjb.

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Apparently, they put this exact set-up on Nissan 240, 260, and 280Zs, too. =
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<div>Wouldn=E2=80=99t DCOEs be more efficient, from an airflow viewpoint, i=
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 and found that someone is actually offering a dual 32/36 DGEV setup for a =
TR7. &nbsp;So maybe it=E2=80=99s easier to do than I thought. I would think=
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><span>I don=E2=80=99t know a lot about Weber carbs, but I =
believe that these particular carbs are progressive choke - that is, at nor=
mal throttle openings only one choke (the smaller one) is in use. &nbsp;The=
 second choke opens only when the throttle is opened
 wide. &nbsp;I believe this style of Weber was developed to give cars the e=
conomy of a single choke carb under normal driving conditions, with the abi=
lity to greatly increase mixture flow to the engine when additional power w=
as needed. As such, I would think that
 it would be difficult to synchronize a pair of them. But, as I said up fro=
nt, I know very little about Weber carbs...</span><br clear=3D"none">
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From: Mark J Bradakis <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 11:40:51 -0700

On 2/5/20 8:57 AM, Michael Marr wrote:
>
> Wouldn’t DCOEs be more efficient, from an airflow viewpoint, in that 
> they are horizontal, vs the downdraft DGV?

Yes.  The best setup is each cylinder having its own venturi, with the 
most direct path from the face of the carb to the intake port.  The 
worst is having a convoluted, twisty path that goes through multiple 
bends on its way to the port.

mjb.

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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 20:05:45 +0000

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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 21:25:08 +0000 (UTC)

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 Carburetors are not trivial.=C2=A0 The fuel/air ratio controls are subtle =
and subject to many outside variables such as temperature.=C2=A0 The A/F ra=
tion needed at a given air flow will be different depending on engine speed=
 vs throttle position so adjustments are, at best, a compromise.=C2=A0=20

The lads in Coventry spend many, many hours setting up an optimum compromis=
e and I see no sense in tossing all that work in the bin unless you have ma=
de really significant changes to the engine (cam, compression, porting, etc=
)
I agree.=C2=A0 I'll stick with the SU's.
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Dave=20

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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Marr <[email-masked]>
To: dave <[email-masked]>; Mark J Bradakis <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wed, Feb 5, 2020 2:05 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] weber carbs

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34WordSection1 {} --&gt;Here=E2=80=99s an interesting article on various ca=
rb choices for the BMC B Series engine, which I think would be fairly analo=
gous to the TR2 through TR4 engines.=C2=A0 It covers the 32/36 DGV, the 45D=
COE, and the variations on the H4 and H6 SUs.  =C2=A0 http://www.mgbmga.com=
/tech/mgb19.htm  =C2=A0 I think I will keep my SUs =F0=9F=98=8A  =C2=A0 Mik=
e  =C2=A0 Michael J Marr, P.E., CEng. Albion Technical Services W5918 Hackb=
arth Rd Fort Atkinson, WI 53538  =C2=A0 Cell:=C2=A0 630-202-0065 Email:=C2=
=A0 [email-masked]  =C2=A0 From: dave <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 10:41 AM
To: Michael Marr <[email-masked]>; Mark J Bradakis <mark@bradaki=
s.com>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] weber carbs  =C2=A0 Yes,=C2=A0 for a stock engine.=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0My tr4 is waaay not stock=C2=A0  =C2=A0 -------- Original message ---=
----- From: Michael Marr <[email-masked]> Date: 2/5/20 9:52 AM (=
GMT-06:00)  To: Mark J Bradakis <[email-masked]> Cc: [email-masked]=
.net  Subject: Re: [TR] weber carbs   =C2=A0 Well, having written what I wr=
ote, I did a little research and found that someone is actually offering a =
dual 32/36 DGEV setup for a TR7. =C2=A0So maybe it=E2=80=99s easier to do t=
han I thought. I would think this would be a lot of carb for this engine, h=
owever.   =C2=A0 https://www.amazon.com/TRIUMPH-DUAL-WEBER-CONVERSION-P28-0=
10/dp/B01N5QPJC6  =C2=A0 Mike Michael Marr  =C2=A0 Mobile: =C2=A0630-202-00=
65  =C2=A0 Sent from my iPad=20
On Feb 5, 2020, at 07:03, Michael Marr <[email-masked]> wrote:=
=20
I don=E2=80=99t know a lot about Weber carbs, but I believe that these part=
icular carbs are progressive choke - that is, at normal throttle openings o=
nly one choke (the smaller one) is in use. =C2=A0The second choke opens onl=
y when the throttle is opened wide. =C2=A0I believe this style of Weber was=
 developed to give cars the economy of a single choke carb under normal dri=
ving conditions, with the ability to greatly increase mixture flow to the e=
ngine when additional power was needed. As such, I would think that it woul=
d be difficult to synchronize a pair of them. But, as I said up front, I kn=
ow very little about Weber carbs...

Mike

Michael Marr

Sent from my iPad

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 =C2=A0=20

On 2/4/20 8:00 PM, dave wrote:=20

 =C2=A0=20

I think I found the ID =E2=80=93 could it be a 32-36 DGV?=20

 =C2=A0=20

 =C2=A0=20

 =C2=A0=20

Yep.=20

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mjb.=20

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<div> <font size=3D"3">Carburetors are not trivial.&nbsp; The fuel/air rati=
o controls are subtle and subject to many outside variables such as tempera=
ture.&nbsp; The A/F ration needed at a given air flow will be different dep=
ending on engine speed vs throttle position so adjustments are, at best, a =
compromise.&nbsp; <br>
</font></div>

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<div><font size=3D"3">The lads in Coventry spend many, many hours setting u=
p an optimum compromise and I see no sense in tossing all that work in the =
bin unless you have made really significant changes to the engine (cam, com=
pression, porting, etc)</font></div>

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<div><font size=3D"3">I agree.&nbsp; I'll stick with the SU's.</font><br>
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From: Michael Marr &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: dave &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; Mark J Bradakis &lt;[email-masked]&gt=
;<br>
Cc: [email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Wed, Feb 5, 2020 2:05 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] weber carbs<br>
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<div class=3D"yiv1082235734MsoNormal">Here=E2=80=99s an interesting article=
 on various carb choices for the BMC B Series engine, which I think would b=
e fairly analogous to the TR2 through TR4 engines.&nbsp; It covers the 32/3=
6 DGV, the 45DCOE, and the variations on the H4 and H6 SUs.</div>
=20

<div class=3D"yiv1082235734MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>
=20

<div class=3D"yiv1082235734MsoNormal"><a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.mgbmga.com/tech/mgb19.htm">http://www.mgbmga=
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<div class=3D"yiv1082235734MsoNormal">I think I will keep my SUs <span styl=
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<div class=3D"yiv1082235734MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1082235734MsoNormal">Mike</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1082235734MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1082235734MsoNormal">Michael J Marr, P.E., CEng.</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1082235734MsoNormal">Albion Technical Services</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1082235734MsoNormal">Cell:&nbsp; 630-202-0065</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1082235734MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> dave &lt;[email-masked]=
m&gt; <br>

<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 5, 2020 10:41 AM<br>

<b>To:</b> Michael Marr &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; Mark J Bradakis =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>

<b>Cc:</b> [email-masked]<br>

<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] weber carbs</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1082235734MsoNormal">Yes,&nbsp; for a stock engine.&nbsp; =
&nbsp;My tr4 is waaay not stock&nbsp;</div>
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chael Marr &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:mmarr@albio=
ntechnical.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
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<div class=3D"yiv1082235734MsoNormal">Well, having written what I wrote, I =
did a little research and found that someone is actually offering a dual 32=
/36 DGEV setup for a TR7. &nbsp;So maybe it=E2=80=99s easier to do than I t=
hought. I would think this would be a lot of carb for this engine,
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<div class=3D"yiv1082235734MsoNormal">I don=E2=80=99t know a lot about Webe=
r carbs, but I believe that these particular carbs are progressive choke - =
that is, at normal throttle openings only one choke (the smaller one) is in=
 use. &nbsp;The second choke opens only when the throttle is opened
 wide. &nbsp;I believe this style of Weber was developed to give cars the e=
conomy of a single choke carb under normal driving conditions, with the abi=
lity to greatly increase mixture flow to the engine when additional power w=
as needed. As such, I would think that
 it would be difficult to synchronize a pair of them. But, as I said up fro=
nt, I know very little about Weber carbs...<br>

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