Subject: Re: [TR] be glad you have a triumph

From: Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 15:04:09 -0500

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On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 2:31 PM Rye Livingston <[email-masked]> wrote:

> . That Jeep design seems pretty odd and expensive to dismantle to repair.
>
>
"It's a Jeep thing.  You wouldn't understand..."

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vingston &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
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hat Jeep design seems pretty odd and expensive to dismantle to repair.</div=
></div><br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>&quot;It&#39;s a Jeep thing.=C2=
=A0 You wouldn&#39;t understand...&quot;=C2=A0</div></div></div>

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From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 14:21:31 -0600

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My 2015 Tacoma and I just returned from two weeks in New Mexico, including
visits to White Sands National Park on its first day as our nation's newest
NP and again for sunrise on the first day of the new year.

(Note those tracks in the dunes are NOT mine.)

Regarding Jeep YJ Wranglers of that era -- I spent many years with a 1989
Wrangler and found it to be a pretty tough vehicle, including off-roading
in the Sierras.  The worst part of that Jeep was the carburetor on the
4.2:L engine.  We ended up installing Mopar's trottle body iinjection
upgrade and it helped enormously.  Not cheap though.

With the doors off they're just about as much fun as a sidescreen TR.

On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 1:20 PM Rye Livingston <[email-masked]> wrote:

> I know this is getting way off topic, but I can't help myself.  My daily
> driver is a 2011 Tacoma, and my wife has a 2010 4Runner.  Great trucks.
>
> To comment on the original topic, as others have said, the clutch slave on
> the 4x4s I have are not the lowest hanging fruit to get mangled on a
> rock. That Jeep design seems pretty odd and expensive to dismantle to
> repair.
>
> Rye
>
> On January 6, 2020 at 11:12 AM, Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> Indeed, Rye, the alternative to my TR3B is a Toyota product I happily take
> into the backcountry -- I have two "real" 4WD vehicles (defined as having a
> transfer case, and both Tacomas), and my most civilized vehicle is also
> all-wheel drive (a RX350).  Here's my 2003 Toyota Tacoma double cab.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 1:05 PM Rye Livingston <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>> It looks like some of us who have a Triumph, also have an off road
>> vehicle.
>>
>> My Triumph is a 1960 TR3A, and this my very fun and unique 1982 Toyota
>> BJ42 Land Cruiser.  It's right hand drive, diesel, 5-speed.
>>
>> Rye
>> PH: 530-FIND-RYE
>>
>> On January 6, 2020 at 10:01 AM, [email-masked] wrote:
>>
>> we just picked up an 88 jeep wrangler from an owner who only had the car
>> a short time.  she bought it from the original owner and never even
>> transferred the title.
>>
>> she's not mechanical at all but loves off road stuff and lives waaaaay
>> out in the country.
>>
>> on an 88 wrangler the clutch slave cylinder is INSIDE the bell housing.
>> someone came by to supposedly fix it, tore it all apart, and never came
>> back.  so she sold it as is, pretty cheap.  no rust, no damage, 6 cylinder
>> engine (just like a TR6!).
>>
>> we're not into jeeps at all, but my 30 year old son and his wife wanted
>> to get it.  i think we are going to love it!
>>
>> we couldn't figure out what was going on until we did the research and
>> figured out why it was all taken apart just for a slave cylinder.
>>
>> wish us luck as we move forward on it!!!
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">My 2015 Tacoma and I just returned from two weeks in New M=
exico, including visits to White Sands National Park on its first day as ou=
r nation&#39;s newest NP and again for sunrise on the first day of the new =
year.<div><div><img src=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-jW4Mdjt/0/7b=
22ff88/X5/i-jW4Mdjt-X5.jpg" width=3D"517" height=3D"345"><br></div></div><d=
iv><br></div><div>(Note those tracks in the dunes are NOT mine.)</div><div>=
<br></div><div>Regarding Jeep YJ Wranglers of that era -- I spent many year=
s with a 1989 Wrangler and found it to be a pretty tough vehicle, including=
 off-roading in the Sierras.=C2=A0 The worst part of that Jeep was the carb=
uretor on the 4.2:L engine.=C2=A0 We ended up installing Mopar&#39;s trottl=
e body iinjection upgrade and it helped enormously.=C2=A0 Not cheap though.=
=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>With the doors off they&#39;re just a=
bout as much fun as a sidescreen TR.=C2=A0</div></div><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 1:20=
 PM Rye Livingston &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">ry=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex"><div><div>I know this is getting way off topic, but I can&#39;t =
help myself.=C2=A0 My daily driver is a 2011 Tacoma, and my wife has a 2010=
 4Runner.=C2=A0 Great trucks.</div><div><br></div><div>To comment on the or=
iginal topic, as others have said, the clutch slave on the 4x4s I have are=
=C2=A0not the lowest hanging fruit to get mangled on a rock.=C2=A0That Jeep=
 design seems pretty odd and expensive to dismantle to repair.</div><div><b=
r></div><div>Rye</div><div><img src=3D"cid:16f7c57c0b02ec400241" alt=3D"Mya=
irstreamtruckboat002.jpg" title=3D"Myairstreamtruckboat002.jpg" style=3D"ma=
rgin: 10px 10px 10px 0px;"></div><div><br>On January 6, 2020 at 11:12 AM, D=
on Hiscock &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">d=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Indeed, Rye, the alternative to my TR3B is a Toy=
ota product I happily take into the backcountry -- I have two &quot;real&qu=
ot; 4WD vehicles (defined as having a transfer case, and both Tacomas), and=
 my most civilized vehicle is also all-wheel drive (a RX350).=C2=A0 Here&#3=
9;s my 2003 Toyota Tacoma double cab.<br><div><img src=3D"https://photos.sm=
ugmug.com/photos/i-vKD8QzB/0/01c1c5c1/X4/i-vKD8QzB-X4.jpg" width=3D"562" he=
ight=3D"375"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr=
" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 1:05 PM Rye Livingston &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:=
<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8=
ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>It lo=
oks like some of us who have a Triumph, also have an off road vehicle.</div=
><div><br></div><div>My Triumph is a 1960 TR3A,=C2=A0and this my very fun a=
nd unique 1982 Toyota BJ42 Land Cruiser.=C2=A0 It&#39;s=C2=A0right hand dri=
ve, diesel, 5-speed.</div><div><br></div><div></div><div>Rye<br>PH: 530-FIN=
D-RYE</div><div><br>On January 6, 2020 at 10:01 AM, <a href=3D"mailto:dave@=
ranteer.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> wrote:<br><br></div><di=
v><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><span style=3D"font-family:Verdana;color:r=
gb(0,0,0);font-size:10pt"><div>we just picked up an 88 jeep wrangler from a=
n owner who only had the car a short time.=C2=A0 she bought it from the ori=
ginal owner and never even transferred the title.</div><div><br></div><div>=
she&#39;s not mechanical at all but loves off road stuff and lives waaaaay =
out in the country.</div><div><br></div><div>on an 88 wrangler the clutch s=
lave cylinder is INSIDE the bell housing.=C2=A0 someone came by to supposed=
ly fix it, tore it all apart, and never came back.=C2=A0 so she sold it as =
is, pretty cheap.=C2=A0 no rust, no damage, 6 cylinder engine (just like a =
TR6!).</div><div><br></div><div>we&#39;re not into jeeps at all, but my 30 =
year old son and his wife wanted to get it.=C2=A0 i think we are going to l=
ove it!</div><div><br></div><div>we couldn&#39;t figure out what was going =
on until we did the research and figured out why it was all taken apart jus=
t for a slave cylinder.</div><div><br></div><div>wish us luck as we move fo=
rward on it!!!</div><div><br></div><blockquote id=3D"gmail-m_-3426257596556=
908170gmail-m_-9170566555711373234gmail-m_6394483954490934452replyBlockquot=
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Funny you should mention the carbs; this one has a single weber for all =
6 cylinders.

=20

From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 2:22 PM
To: Rye Livingston <[email-masked]>
Cc: Dave <[email-masked]>; Triumphs <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] be glad you have a triumph

=20

My 2015 Tacoma and I just returned from two weeks in New Mexico, =
including visits to White Sands National Park on its first day as our =
nation's newest NP and again for sunrise on the first day of the new =
year.

  =
<https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-jW4Mdjt/0/7b22ff88/X5/i-jW4Mdjt-X5.j=
pg>=20

=20

=20

Regarding Jeep YJ Wranglers of that era -- I spent many years with a =
1989 Wrangler and found it to be a pretty tough vehicle, including =
off-roading in the Sierras.  The worst part of that Jeep was the =
carburetor on the 4.2:L engine.  We ended up installing Mopar's trottle =
body iinjection upgrade and it helped enormously.  Not cheap though. =20

=20

With the doors off they're just about as much fun as a sidescreen TR.=20

=20

On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 1:20 PM Rye Livingston <[email-masked] =

I know this is getting way off topic, but I can't help myself.  My daily =
driver is a 2011 Tacoma, and my wife has a 2010 4Runner.  Great trucks.

=20

To comment on the original topic, as others have said, the clutch slave =
on the 4x4s I have are not the lowest hanging fruit to get mangled on a =
rock. That Jeep design seems pretty odd and expensive to dismantle to =
repair.

=20

Rye

On January 6, 2020 at 11:12 AM, Don Hiscock <[email-masked] =

Indeed, Rye, the alternative to my TR3B is a Toyota product I happily =
take into the backcountry -- I have two "real" 4WD vehicles (defined as =
having a transfer case, and both Tacomas), and my most civilized vehicle =
is also all-wheel drive (a RX350).  Here's my 2003 Toyota Tacoma double =
cab.

  =
<https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-vKD8QzB/0/01c1c5c1/X4/i-vKD8QzB-X4.j=
pg>=20

=20

On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 1:05 PM Rye Livingston <[email-masked] =

It looks like some of us who have a Triumph, also have an off road =
vehicle.

=20

My Triumph is a 1960 TR3A, and this my very fun and unique 1982 Toyota =
BJ42 Land Cruiser.  It's right hand drive, diesel, 5-speed.

=20

Rye
PH: 530-FIND-RYE

On January 6, 2020 at 10:01 AM, [email-masked] =

we just picked up an 88 jeep wrangler from an owner who only had the car =
a short time.  she bought it from the original owner and never even =
transferred the title.

=20

she's not mechanical at all but loves off road stuff and lives waaaaay =
out in the country.

=20

on an 88 wrangler the clutch slave cylinder is INSIDE the bell housing.  =
someone came by to supposedly fix it, tore it all apart, and never came =
back.  so she sold it as is, pretty cheap.  no rust, no damage, 6 =
cylinder engine (just like a TR6!).

=20

we're not into jeeps at all, but my 30 year old son and his wife wanted =
to get it.  i think we are going to love it!

=20

we couldn't figure out what was going on until we did the research and =
figured out why it was all taken apart just for a slave cylinder.

=20

=20

=20

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs =

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Funny you =
should mention the carbs; this one has a single weber for all 6 =
cylinders.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Don Hiscock &lt;[email-masked]&gt; =
<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 6, 2020 2:22 PM<br><b>To:</b> Rye =
Livingston &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> Dave =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;; Triumphs =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] be glad you =
have a triumph<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>My 2015 =
Tacoma and I just returned from two weeks in New Mexico, including =
visits to White Sands National Park on its first day as our nation's =
newest NP and again for sunrise on the first day of the new =
year.<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><img width=3D517 =
height=3D345 style=3D'width:5.3833in;height:3.5916in' =
id=3D"_x0000_i1025" =
src=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-jW4Mdjt/0/7b22ff88/X5/i-jW4Mdj=
t-X5.jpg"><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>(Note those tracks in the dunes are NOT =
mine.)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Regarding Jeep YJ Wranglers of that era -- I spent =
many years with a 1989 Wrangler and found it to be a pretty tough =
vehicle, including off-roading in the Sierras.&nbsp; The worst part of =
that Jeep was the carburetor on the 4.2:L engine.&nbsp; We ended up =
installing Mopar's trottle body iinjection upgrade and it helped =
enormously.&nbsp; Not cheap =
though.&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>With the doors off they're just about as much fun as a =
sidescreen TR.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 1:20 PM Rye Livingston &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I know this is getting way off topic, but I can't help =
myself.&nbsp; My daily driver is a 2011 Tacoma, and my wife has a 2010 =
4Runner.&nbsp; Great trucks.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>To comment on the original topic, as others have said, =
the clutch slave on the 4x4s I have are&nbsp;not the lowest hanging =
fruit to get mangled on a rock.&nbsp;That Jeep design seems pretty odd =
and expensive to dismantle to repair.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Rye<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><img =
border=3D0 width=3D1601 height=3D1200 =
style=3D'width:16.675in;height:12.5in' id=3D"_x0000_i1026" =
src=3D"cid:[email-masked]" =
alt=3DMyairstreamtruckboat002.jpg><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On January 6, 2020 =
at 11:12 AM, Don Hiscock &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Indeed, Rye, the alternative to my TR3B is a Toyota =
product I happily take into the backcountry -- I have two =
&quot;real&quot; 4WD vehicles (defined as having a transfer case, and =
both Tacomas), and my most civilized vehicle is also all-wheel drive (a =
RX350).&nbsp; Here's my 2003 Toyota Tacoma double =
cab.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><img border=3D0 width=3D562 =
height=3D375 style=3D'width:5.8583in;height:3.9083in' =
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class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 1:05 PM Rye Livingston &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>It looks like some of us who have a Triumph, also have =
an off road vehicle.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>My Triumph is a 1960 TR3A,&nbsp;and this my very fun =
and unique 1982 Toyota BJ42 Land Cruiser.&nbsp; It's&nbsp;right hand =
drive, diesel, 5-speed.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Rye<br>PH: 530-FIND-RYE<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On January 6, 2020 =
at 10:01 AM, <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>w=
e just picked up an 88 jeep wrangler from an owner who only had the car =
a short time.&nbsp; she bought it from the original owner and never even =
transferred the title.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>s=
he's not mechanical at all but loves off road stuff and lives waaaaay =
out in the country.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>o=
n an 88 wrangler the clutch slave cylinder is INSIDE the bell =
housing.&nbsp; someone came by to supposedly fix it, tore it all apart, =
and never came back.&nbsp; so she sold it as is, pretty cheap.&nbsp; no =
rust, no damage, 6 cylinder engine (just like a =
TR6!).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>w=
e're not into jeeps at all, but my 30 year old son and his wife wanted =
to get it.&nbsp; i think we are going to love =
it!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>w=
e couldn't figure out what was going on until we did the research and =
figured out why it was all taken apart just for a slave =
cylinder.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>w=
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it!!!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 20:03:12 -0600

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That Weber single-barrel would have been installed as a replacement for the
original two-barrel Carter BBD.  That Carter carb, with its complicated
emissions systems, needs to be spot-on to work well.  Here's an article
I've just looked over that largely mimics our experience many years ago:
https://www.4wdmechanix.com/Rebuilding-the-YJ-Wrangler-4.2L-BBD-Carburetor?r=1

The Weber may very well be a better setup -- I've no experience with it as
we went TBI.  I'd put carburetors high on your list of things to check as
you recommission your YJ.

On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 7:32 PM dave <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Funny you should mention the carbs; this one has a single weber for all 6
> cylinders.
>
>
>
> *From:* Don Hiscock <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Monday, January 6, 2020 2:22 PM
> *To:* Rye Livingston <[email-masked]>
> *Cc:* Dave <[email-masked]>; Triumphs <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] be glad you have a triumph
>
>
>
> It looks like some of us who have a Triumph, also have an off road vehicle.
>
>
>
> we just picked up an 88 jeep wrangler from an owner who only had the car a
> short time.  she bought it from the original owner and never even
> transferred the title.
>
>
>
> she's not mechanical at all but loves off road stuff and lives waaaaay out
> in the country.
>
>
>
> we're not into jeeps at all, but my 30 year old son and his wife wanted to
> get it.  i think we are going to love it!
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">That Weber single-barrel would have been installed as a re=
placement for the original two-barrel Carter BBD.=C2=A0 That Carter carb, w=
ith its complicated emissions systems, needs to be spot-on to work well.=C2=
=A0 Here&#39;s an article I&#39;ve just looked over that largely mimics our=
 experience many years ago:=C2=A0=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.4wdmechanix.c=
om/Rebuilding-the-YJ-Wrangler-4.2L-BBD-Carburetor?r=3D1">https://www.4wdmec=
hanix.com/Rebuilding-the-YJ-Wrangler-4.2L-BBD-Carburetor?r=3D1</a><div><br>=
</div><div>The Weber may very well be a better setup -- I&#39;ve no experie=
nce with it as we went TBI.=C2=A0 I&#39;d put carburetors high on your list=
 of things to check as you recommission your YJ.</div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 =
at 7:32 PM dave &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px=
 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><di=
v lang=3D"EN-US"><div class=3D"gmail-m_545131021621061764WordSection1"><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">Funny you should mention the carbs; this one has a singl=
e weber for all 6 cylinders.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u=
>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Don Hiscock &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 6, 2020 2:22 PM<br><b>To:</b> Rye=
 Livingston &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">ryel@mac.=
com</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> Dave &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targ=
et=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triu=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><=
b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] be glad you have a triumph<u></u><u></u></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">My 2015=
 Tacoma and I just returned from two weeks in New Mexico, including visits =
to White Sands National Park on its first day as our nation&#39;s newest NP=
 and again for sunrise on the first day of the new year.<u></u><u></u></p><=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><img width=3D"517" height=3D"345" style=3D"=
width: 5.3833in; height: 3.5916in;" id=3D"gmail-m_545131021621061764_x0000_=
i1025" src=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-jW4Mdjt/0/7b22ff88/X5/i-j=
W4Mdjt-X5.jpg"><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u=
></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">(Note those tracks =
in the dunes are NOT mine.)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Regarding Jee=
p YJ Wranglers of that era -- I spent many years with a 1989 Wrangler and f=
ound it to be a pretty tough vehicle, including off-roading in the Sierras.=
=C2=A0 The worst part of that Jeep was the carburetor on the 4.2:L engine.=
=C2=A0 We ended up installing Mopar&#39;s trottle body iinjection upgrade a=
nd it helped enormously.=C2=A0 Not cheap though.=C2=A0=C2=A0<u></u><u></u><=
/p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">With the doors off they&#39;re just about as much fun a=
s a sidescreen TR.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, Jan 6, 2=
020 at 1:20 PM Rye Livingston &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D=
"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote sty=
le=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt =
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-rig=
ht:0in"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I know this is getting way off top=
ic, but I can&#39;t help myself.=C2=A0 My daily driver is a 2011 Tacoma, an=
d my wife has a 2010 4Runner.=C2=A0 Great trucks.<u></u><u></u></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">To comment on the original topic, as others have said, the clutch =
slave on the 4x4s I have are=C2=A0not the lowest hanging fruit to get mangl=
ed on a rock.=C2=A0That Jeep design seems pretty odd and expensive to disma=
ntle to repair.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Rye<u></u><u></u></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><img border=3D"0" width=3D"1601" height=3D"1=
200" style=3D"width: 16.675in; height: 12.5in;" id=3D"gmail-m_5451310216210=
61764_x0000_i1026" src=3D"cid:16f7dbaba2f4ce8e91" alt=3D"Myairstreamtruckbo=
at002.jpg"><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mar=
gin-bottom:12pt"><br>On January 6, 2020 at 11:12 AM, Don Hiscock &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:=
5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Indeed, Rye, the al=
ternative to my TR3B is a Toyota product I happily take into the backcountr=
y -- I have two &quot;real&quot; 4WD vehicles (defined as having a transfer=
 case, and both Tacomas), and my most civilized vehicle is also all-wheel d=
rive (a RX350).=C2=A0 Here&#39;s my 2003 Toyota Tacoma double cab.<u></u><u=
></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><img border=3D"0" width=3D"562" height=
=3D"375" style=3D"width: 5.8583in; height: 3.9083in;" id=3D"gmail-m_5451310=
21621061764_x0000_i1027" src=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-vKD8QzB=
/0/01c1c5c1/X4/i-vKD8QzB-X4.jpg"><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon,=
 Jan 6, 2020 at 1:05 PM Rye Livingston &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><block=
quote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-=
left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;m=
argin-right:0in"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">It looks like some of us =
who have a Triumph, also have an off road vehicle.<u></u><u></u></p></div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">My Triumph is a 1960 TR3A,=C2=A0and this my very fun and unique 1=
982 Toyota BJ42 Land Cruiser.=C2=A0 It&#39;s=C2=A0right hand drive, diesel,=
 5-speed.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<=
u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Rye<br>PH: 530-FIND-RYE<u></u><=
u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><b=
r>On January 6, 2020 at 10:01 AM, <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targe=
t=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><block=
quote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:b=
lack">we just picked up an 88 jeep wrangler from an owner who only had the =
car a short time.=C2=A0 she bought it from the original owner and never eve=
n transferred the title.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:=
black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">she&=
#39;s not mechanical at all but loves off road stuff and lives waaaaay out =
in the country.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black"><u=
></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">on an 88 wra=
ngler the clutch slave cylinder is INSIDE the bell housing.=C2=A0 someone c=
ame by to supposedly fix it, tore it all apart, and never came back.=C2=A0 =
so she sold it as is, pretty cheap.=C2=A0 no rust, no damage, 6 cylinder en=
gine (just like a TR6!).<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:=
black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">we&#=
39;re not into jeeps at all, but my 30 year old son and his wife wanted to =
get it.=C2=A0 i think we are going to love it!<u></u><u></u></span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Ver=
dana,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-s=
erif;color:black">we couldn&#39;t figure out what was going on until we did=
 the research and figured out why it was all taken apart just for a slave c=
ylinder.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">wish us luck as we=
 move forward on it!!!<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:bl=
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