Subject: Re: [TR] be glad you have a triumph

From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 09:38:03 -0700

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On 1/5/20 7:04 PM, [email-masked] wrote:
> we just picked up an 88 jeep wrangler from an owner who only had the 
> car a short time.  she bought it from the original owner and never 
> even transferred the title.
>
> she's not mechanical at all but loves off road stuff and lives waaaaay 
> out in the country.
>
> on an 88 wrangler the clutch slave cylinder is INSIDE the bell 
> housing.  someone came by to supposedly fix it, tore it all apart, and 
> never came back.  so she sold it as is, pretty cheap.  no rust, no 
> damage, 6 cylinder engine (just like a TR6!).

Makes me glad I also have a Land Rover which has a proper Gurling/Lucas 
slave cylinder outside the bellhousing. Those front shackles look pretty 
anemic. Like they just might bend when driving off camber. If it were 
me, once it was running I'd have a Jeep specialty shop look at them to 
see if they would hold up in real off road life. They are not something 
you would want to bend or snap out in the middle of nowhere.

TeriAnn
1960 TR3A owned since 1986
1960 Land Rover owned sine 1978

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/5/20 7:04 PM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>
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        <div>we just picked up an 88 jeep wrangler from an owner who
          only had the car a short time.  she bought it from the
          original owner and never even transferred the title.</div>
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        <div>she's not mechanical at all but loves off road stuff and
          lives waaaaay out in the country.</div>
        <div><br>
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        <div>on an 88 wrangler the clutch slave cylinder is INSIDE the
          bell housing.  someone came by to supposedly fix it, tore it
          all apart, and never came back.  so she sold it as is, pretty
          cheap.  no rust, no damage, 6 cylinder engine (just like a
          TR6!).</div>
      </span></blockquote>
    <p>Makes me glad I also have a Land Rover which has a proper
      Gurling/Lucas slave cylinder outside the bellhousing. Those front
      shackles look pretty anemic. Like they just might bend when
      driving off camber. If it were me, once it was running I'd have a
      Jeep specialty shop look at them to see if they would hold up in
      real off road life. They are not something you would want to bend
      or snap out in the middle of nowhere.</p>
    <p>TeriAnn<br>
      1960 TR3A owned since 1986<br>
      1960 Land Rover owned sine 1978<br>
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From: "Randall" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 09:20:50 -0800

> on an 88 wrangler the clutch slave cylinder is INSIDE the 
> bell housing. 

The funny part, to me, is how many people seem to think that's an
improvement.

-- Randall 
56 TR3 TS13571L once and future daily driver
71 Stag LE1473 - awaiting engine rebuild
71-2-3 Stag - awaiting gearbox rebuild

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From: Italyfound <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 13:10:43 -0500

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As far as off roading wouldn=E2=80=99t that be a protective measure=E2=80=
=A6=E2=80=A6just saying?

Alex Manzo

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From: Randall
Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 12:27 PM
To: 'Triumphs'
Subject: Re: [TR] be glad you have a triumph

> on an 88 wrangler the clutch slave cylinder is INSIDE the=20
> bell housing.=20

-- Randall=20
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y, January 6, 2020 12:27 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.=
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From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 12:02:12 -0700

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On 1/6/20 11:10 AM, Italyfound wrote:
>
> As far as off roading wouldnâ€™t that be a protective 
> measureâ€¦â€¦just saying?
>
No if it is tucked you beside or above the bellhousing. You have a LOT 
of other parts that would be mangled first.

TeriAnn

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    <p>No if it is tucked you beside or above the bellhousing. You have
      a LOT of other parts that would be mangled first.<br>
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Not really =E2=80=93 The external slave cylinder is generally located on =
or near the centerline of the transmission input shaft. That=E2=80=99s =
pretty far up to receive interaction with rocks, etc. I=E2=80=99ve put =
kits in a number of trucks with an external cylinder. Sure beats =
removing drive shafts, transfer case, transmission just for a $25 kit or =
even a $100 complete unit.

=20

Alex Thomson

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From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
Italyfound
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2020 1:11 PM
To: Randall; 'Triumphs'
Subject: Re: [TR] be glad you have a triumph

=20

As far as off roading wouldn=E2=80=99t that be a protective =
measure=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6just saying?

=20

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> bell housing.=20

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improvement.

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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Not really =E2=80=93 The =
external slave cylinder is generally located on or near the centerline =
of the transmission input shaft. That=E2=80=99s pretty far up to receive =
interaction with rocks, etc. I=E2=80=99ve put kits in a number of trucks =
with an external cylinder. Sure beats removing drive shafts, transfer =
case, transmission just for a $25 kit or even a $100 complete =
unit.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Alex =
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Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Italyfound<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 06, 2020 1:11 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Randall; 'Triumphs'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] be glad =
you have a triumph<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>As far as =
off roading wouldn=E2=80=99t that be a protective =
measure=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6just saying?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Alex =
Manzo<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From: </b><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Randall</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, =
January 6, 2020 12:27 PM<br><b>To: </b><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">'Triumphs'</a><br><b>Subject: =
</b>Re: [TR] be glad you have a triumph<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&gt; on an =
88 wrangler the clutch slave cylinder is INSIDE the <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&gt; bell housing. <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The funny =
part, to me, is how many people seem to think that's an<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>improvement.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>-- Randall =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>56 TR3 TS13571L once and future =
daily driver<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>71 Stag LE1473 - =
awaiting engine rebuild<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>71-2-3 Stag - =
awaiting gearbox rebuild <o:p></o:p></p><p =
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From: Greg Lemon <[email-masked]>
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My 97 Ranger has the same set up, a big "oh, hell" when it started leaking
clutch fluid last winter.  Apparently only does when it is below 0 out
(read up on it, fairly common issue) so I top up in the winter and don't
worry in the summer.

Greg Lemon
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<div dir=3D"auto">My 97 Ranger has the same set up, a big &quot;oh, hell&qu=
ot; when it started leaking clutch fluid last winter.=C2=A0 Apparently only=
 does when it is below 0 out (read up on it, fairly common issue) so I top =
up in the winter and don&#39;t worry in the summer.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></=
div><div dir=3D"auto">Greg Lemon</div><div dir=3D"auto">TR250</div></div><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, =
Jan 6, 2020, 11:27 AM Randall &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" ta=
rget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></=
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t:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">&gt; on an 88 wrangler the clutch slave =
cylinder is INSIDE the <br>
&gt; bell housing. <br>
<br>
The funny part, to me, is how many people seem to think that&#39;s an<br>
improvement.<br>
<br>
-- Randall <br>
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71 Stag LE1473 - awaiting engine rebuild<br>
71-2-3 Stag - awaiting gearbox rebuild <br>
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