Subject: [TR] Needs Repaired

From: <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 14:50:13 -0500

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Subject: [TR] needs repaired

>Warning:   This is not Triumph related.   

> I'm an uptight New Englander who was taught English grammar by nuns who
had

>sticks.  8-).     Face Book, was the first place I'd seen this usage.  Now

>it appears in a mailing list message.

>"Needs Restored like that one."

Ron - 

    I heard something very similar a few years ago.  A friend was
complaining about a crying child and said "That baby needs spanked." Turns
out the speaker was from Pittsburgh. Somehow the future tense ("needs to be
spanked") has evolved out of the language there.  He insisted that
"everybody" there talks like that. YMMV.

Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U

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class=3DMsoPlainText>&quot;Ron L'Herault&quot; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>Subject: [TR] needs =
repaired<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt;Warning:&nbsp;&nbsp; =
This is not Triumph related.&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; =
I'm an uptight New Englander who was taught English grammar by nuns who =
had<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt;sticks.&nbsp; =
8-).&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Face Book, was the first place I'd seen =
this usage.&nbsp; Now<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt;it =
appears in a mailing list message.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt;&quot;Needs Restored like that =
one.&quot;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>Ron &#8211; <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I heard something very =
similar a few years ago.&nbsp; A friend was complaining about a crying =
child and said &#8220;That baby needs spanked.&#8221; Turns out the =
speaker was from Pittsburgh. Somehow the future tense (&#8220;needs to =
be spanked&#8221;) has evolved out of the language there.&nbsp; He =
insisted that &#8220;everybody&#8221; there talks like that. =
YMMV.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>Dennis Culligan, Highland, =
NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>
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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 13:19:33 +0000 (UTC)

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 OK.=C2=A0 "He has three horses, two brown dogs and cats."=C2=A0 Question: =
What color are the cats?
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Dave=20

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
To: Brian Kemp <[email-masked]>
Cc: triumphs <[email-masked]>; Ron L'Herault <[email-masked]=
Sent: Tue, Jan 28, 2020 10:35 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] needs repaired

Brian,Don=E2=80=99t forget the Oxford comma, drive me nutsB

=E2=80=9CCactus Jack drinks coffee black......=E2=80=9D M.Murphy

On Jan 28, 2020, at 10:16 PM, Brian Kemp <[email-masked]> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF=20
 Some people have an eye for this type of thing.=C2=A0 In my case, I'm draw=
n to extra spaces between words or a single space after the punctuation at =
the end of a sentence.=20
=20
https://www.feelingoodtees.com/let-s-eat-grandma-let-s-eat-grandma-punctuat=
ion-saves-lives-t-shirt
https://www.feelingoodtees.com/i-like-cooking-my-family-and-my-pets-use-com=
mas-don-t-be-a-psycho-t-shirt
=20
=20
 On 1/27/2020 12:52 PM, Ron L'Herault wrote:
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=99m an uptight New Englander who was taught English grammar by nuns who ha=
d sticks.=C2=A0 8-).=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Face Book, was the first place=
 I=E2=80=99d seen this usage.=C2=A0 Now it appears in a mailing list messag=
e. =E2=80=9CNeeds Restored like that one.=E2=80=9D ------------------------=
--------- I look at that and first wonder, needs restored what?=C2=A0=C2=A0=
 Then deep in the recesses of my mind, I hear Sister Thomasina saying=C2=A0=
 =E2=80=9CYou will write =E2=80=98needs to be restored=E2=80=99 100 times o=
n the blackboard. When you are done, you will write =E2=80=98needs restorat=
ion=E2=80=99 100 times as well.=E2=80=9D=C2=A0=C2=A0   =C2=A0 So, since it =
is not a Triumph question, if people want to answer privately, super.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 Do you use this sentence construction habitually?=C2=A0 In what part=
 of the country do you live?=C2=A0 I was not an English major. I=E2=80=99m =
definitely not a great writer and don=E2=80=99t spell everything correctly,=
 but I=E2=80=99m extremely curious to find out the extent of the usage and =
this is a nice friendly group who may be able to help me.   =C2=A0 Let=E2=
=80=99s hear it for fluif.  =C2=A0 Ron L=E2=80=99Herault   =C2=A0   =20

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<div> <font size=3D"3">OK.&nbsp; "He has three horses, two brown dogs and c=
ats."&nbsp; Question: What color are the cats?</font><br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
<br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----=
Original Message-----<br>
From: [email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: Brian Kemp &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; Ron L'Herault &lt;lherault@ve=
rizon.net&gt;<br>
Sent: Tue, Jan 28, 2020 10:35 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] needs repaired<br>
<br>

<div id=3D"yiv7294554441">
<div>Brian,
<div>Don=E2=80=99t forget the Oxford comma, drive me nuts</div>

<div>B<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">
<div dir=3D"ltr">=E2=80=9CCactus Jack drinks coffee black......=E2=80=9D M.=
Murphy</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"yiv7294554441yqt9617590656" id=3D"yiv7294554441yqtfd69211"><b=
r clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 28, 2020, at 10:16 PM, Br=
ian Kemp &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"n=
one"></blockquote></div>
</div>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
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</div>
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<div><br clear=3D"none">
    Some people have an eye for this type of thing.&nbsp; In my case, I'm
    drawn to extra spaces between words or a single space after the
    punctuation at the end of a sentence. <br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
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-link-freetext" target=3D"_blank" removedlink__2ca4702a-3a93-45a6-9c4f-3106=
2c866b84__href=3D"https://www.feelingoodtees.com/let-s-eat-grandma-let-s-ea=
t-grandma-punctuation-saves-lives-t-shirt">https://www.feelingoodtees.com/l=
et-s-eat-grandma-let-s-eat-grandma-punctuation-saves-lives-t-shirt</a><br c=
lear=3D"none">
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2c866b84__href=3D"https://www.feelingoodtees.com/i-like-cooking-my-family-a=
nd-my-pets-use-commas-don-t-be-a-psycho-t-shirt">https://www.feelingoodtees=
.com/i-like-cooking-my-family-and-my-pets-use-commas-don-t-be-a-psycho-t-sh=
irt</a><br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
   =20
<div class=3D"yiv7294554441moz-cite-prefix">On 1/27/2020 12:52 PM, Ron L'He=
rault
      wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
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       =20
<div class=3D"yiv7294554441MsoNormal">Warning:&nbsp;&nbsp; This is not Triu=
mph related.&nbsp;&nbsp; </div>
=20
       =20
<div class=3D"yiv7294554441MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>
=20
       =20
<div class=3D"yiv7294554441MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99m an uptight New Englander =
who was taught
          English grammar by nuns who had sticks.&nbsp; 8-).&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; Face Book,
          was the first place I=E2=80=99d seen this usage.&nbsp; Now it app=
ears in a
          mailing list message.</div>
=20
       =20
<div class=3D"yiv7294554441MsoPlainText">=E2=80=9CNeeds Restored like that =
one.=E2=80=9D</div>
=20
       =20
<div class=3D"yiv7294554441MsoPlainText">---------------------------------<=
/div>
=20
       =20
<div class=3D"yiv7294554441MsoPlainText">I look at that and first wonder, n=
eeds
          restored what?&nbsp;&nbsp; Then deep in the recesses of my mind, =
I hear
          Sister Thomasina saying&nbsp; =E2=80=9CYou will write =E2=80=98ne=
eds to be
          restored=E2=80=99 100 times on the blackboard. When you are done,=
 you
          will write =E2=80=98needs restoration=E2=80=99 100 times as well.=
=E2=80=9D&nbsp;&nbsp; </div>
=20
       =20
<div class=3D"yiv7294554441MsoPlainText"> &nbsp;</div>
=20
       =20
<div class=3D"yiv7294554441MsoPlainText">So, since it is not a Triumph ques=
tion,
          if people want to answer privately, super.&nbsp;&nbsp; Do you use=
 this
          sentence construction habitually?&nbsp; In what part of the count=
ry
          do you live?&nbsp; I was not an English major. I=E2=80=99m defini=
tely not a
          great writer and don=E2=80=99t spell everything correctly, but I=
=E2=80=99m
          extremely curious to find out the extent of the usage and this
          is a nice friendly group who may be able to help me. </div>
=20
       =20
<div class=3D"yiv7294554441MsoPlainText"> &nbsp;</div>
=20
       =20
<div class=3D"yiv7294554441MsoPlainText">Let=E2=80=99s hear it for fluif.</=
div>
=20
       =20
<div class=3D"yiv7294554441MsoPlainText"> &nbsp;</div>
=20
       =20
<div class=3D"yiv7294554441MsoPlainText">Ron L=E2=80=99Herault </div>
=20
       =20
<div class=3D"yiv7294554441MsoPlainText"> &nbsp;</div>
=20
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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 13:23:50 +0000 (UTC)

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 Interesting.=C2=A0 The Android keyboard will automatically place a period =
after the last word typed if a double space is entered.=C2=A0 I don't think=
 double spaces are forbidden and make the text easier to read.=C2=A0=20

Here's what I find really annoying.No spaces after a period.Makes it diffic=
ult to recognize the end of a sentence.Really.
AndYouCanAlwaysTellACoderFromTheLackOfWhiteSpacesAndAllWordsAreCapitalized.
Of_Course_You_Can_Use_Underscores.=C2=A0 Mc mr rdbl.
=20
Dave=20

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-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Stewart <[email-masked]>
To: 'Brian Kemp' <[email-masked]>; 'Ron L'Herault' <[email-masked]=
t>; triumphs <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wed, Jan 29, 2020 6:09 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] needs repaired

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 #yiv7939664172 Two spaces after the punctuation at the end of a sentence w=
as not a grammar issue. It was a typewriter issue. Because of the fixed spa=
cing of characters on a typewriter, two spaces were used to clearly show th=
e end of a sentence and to separate it from the start of the next sentence.=
 With the proportional spacing in word processors and electronic devices, t=
wo spaces no longer were necessary and in fact the use of two spaces clearl=
y identifies the author as a previously typewriter trained individual. =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0Keith [email-masked] =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0From: Bria=
n Kemp <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: January 28, 2020 11:16 PM
To: Ron L'Herault <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] needs repaired =C2=A0
Some people have an eye for this type of thing.=C2=A0 In my case, I'm drawn=
 to extra spaces between words or a single space after the punctuation at t=
he end of a sentence.=20

 =C2=A0** [email-masked] **

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs  http://www.team.net/archiv=
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<div> <font size=3D"3">Interesting.&nbsp; The Android keyboard will automat=
ically place a period after the last word typed if a double space is entere=
d.&nbsp; I don't think double spaces are forbidden and make the text easier=
 to read.&nbsp; <br>
</font></div>

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</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">Here's what I find really annoying.No spaces after a =
period.Makes it difficult to recognize the end of a sentence.Really.</font>=
</div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">AndYouCanAlwaysTellACoderFromTheLackOfWhiteSpacesAndA=
llWordsAreCapitalized.</font></div>

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<div><font size=3D"3">Of_Course_You_Can_Use_Underscores.&nbsp; Mc mr rdbl.<=
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Original Message-----<br>
From: Keith Stewart &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: 'Brian Kemp' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; 'Ron L'Herault' &lt;lherault@v=
erizon.net&gt;; triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Wed, Jan 29, 2020 6:09 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] needs repaired<br>
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sue. It was a typewriter issue. Because of the fixed spacing of characters =
on a typewriter, two spaces were used to clearly show the end of a sentence=
 and to separate it from the start of the next sentence. With the proportio=
nal spacing in word processors and electronic devices, two spaces no longer=
 were necessary and in fact the use of two spaces clearly identifies the au=
thor as a previously typewriter trained individual.</span></div>

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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2020 03:03:18 +0000 (UTC)

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 I pretty much use the orthodox method but I'm no touch typist.=C2=A0 Turn =
the lights out and it gets ugly.
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Dave=20

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=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick Baize <[email-masked]>
To: triumphs <[email-masked]>
Sent: Fri, Jan 31, 2020 6:58 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] needs repaired

 OH Ya, missed 2,=C2=A0 left pinky for shift and right thumb for space bar.=
 haha , so 5.
  Patrick
  On 1/31/2020 6:56 PM, Patrick Baize wrote:
 =20
=20
I never took typing in school. Later I tried to use "Mavis Beaves teaches t=
yping", didn't work. I have been writing software for over 30 years, I use =
3 fingers, 1 on left hand, 2 on the right.=C2=A0=20
  Patrick=20
  On 1/31/2020 6:27 AM, DAVID MASSEY wrote:
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=20
  I never took a typing class, I am self taught.=C2=A0 I remember staying u=
p all night typing a report for class in highschool.=C2=A0 When I started w=
orking there was no need for an engineer to type.=C2=A0 Enter the desk-top =
computer.=C2=A0 Now I spend most of my time staring at a screen typing on a=
 keyboard.=C2=A0 Who'd a thunk?
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  Dave=20
=20
  =20
  =20
  -----Original Message-----
 From: jpaynepbr <[email-masked]>
 To: 'TeriAnn J. Wakeman' <[email-masked]>; triumphs <[email-masked]=
eam.net>
 Sent: Thu, Jan 30, 2020 9:07 pm
 Subject: Re: [TR] needs repaired
=20
 In 1990, when I graduated HS, if you were going to graduate and be "colleg=
e bound", you had to take a typing class.=C2=A0 It was Sr. year and it was =
"Health" one semester, "Typing" the next or vice versa.
=20
 If you were "Vo-Tech" typing was an option, but "Health" was still mandato=
ry.=C2=A0=20
=20
 Same teacher taught both classes.=C2=A0 One of the most bitter and angry p=
eople I have ever met.=C2=A0=20
=20
 The though of=C2=A0 "Health" class taught by an angry, frigid, humorless 6=
0 year old woman still makes me wonder.=C2=A0 I guess if you had to manage =
the subject matter with a bunch of teenagers, many of whom were headed nowh=
ere, after a few years, you would end up like that too.
=20
 Typing was one of the most valuable skills I ever learned.=C2=A0=20
=20
 My kids all had typing classes in public schools in 1st and 2nd grade post=
 2010.=C2=A0=20
=20
 Time and technology change everything.=20
=20
 I wish I could learn to type on a phone and manage the "autocorrect", that=
 would be something.
=20
=20
 -----Original Message-----
 From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of TeriAnn J. W=
akeman
 Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 6:38 PM
 To: [email-masked]
 Subject: Re: [TR] needs repaired
=20
 On 1/30/20 6:23 PM, Bud Rolofson wrote:
 > Exactly, I took typing in eighth grade because there lots of girls in=20
 > that class and I was a horny 13 yo.=C2=A0 But my 50 yo typing muscle mem=
ory=20
 > will always space twice after a period. Can=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2t hel=
p it.
 > Busted.
 > Bud
=20
 I didn't take typing in high school because I didn't want to be pigeonhole=
d as a secretary. In early years I went in to interview for a technical pos=
ition with a degree in electronics & almost always was asked what my typing=
 speed was. When I mentioned about a page ever 2 hours or so, I got intervi=
ewed for the job I was applying for. I knew a woman with a Stanford masters=
 in physics who in the mid 60s worked as a tech group secretary.
=20
 During college when I needed to submit typed papers, I traded typing for e=
ither a homemade apple pie or a ready to bake homemade lasagna. I single sp=
ace between sentences only on emails. That is because my mailer produces st=
range characters when I double space a sentence. The books I have authored =
are all double spaced between sentences and my reviewers have forced me to =
use oxford comas. They are not used in technical papers.
=20
 TeriAnn
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<div> <font size=3D"3">I pretty much use the orthodox method but I'm no tou=
ch typist.&nbsp; Turn the lights out and it gets ugly.</font><br>
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Original Message-----<br>
From: Patrick Baize &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Fri, Jan 31, 2020 6:58 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] needs repaired<br>
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<div>OH Ya, missed 2,&nbsp; left pinky for shift and right thumb for space
      bar. haha , so 5.<br clear=3D"none">
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   =20
<div>Patrick<br clear=3D"none">
    </div>

   =20
<div class=3D"yiv8427189964moz-cite-prefix">On 1/31/2020 6:56 PM, Patrick B=
aize
      wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
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<div>
<div>I never took typing in school. Later I tried to use "Mavis
        Beaves teaches typing", didn't work. I have been writing
        software for over 30 years, I use 3 fingers, 1 on left hand, 2
        on the right.&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none">
      </div>

     =20
<div>Patrick</div>

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      </div>

     =20
<div class=3D"yiv8427189964moz-cite-prefix">On 1/31/2020 6:27 AM, DAVID MAS=
SEY
        wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
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         =20
<div> <font size=3D"3">I never took a typing class, I am self
              taught.&nbsp; I remember staying up all night typing a report
              for class in highschool.&nbsp; When I started working there w=
as
              no need for an engineer to type.&nbsp; Enter the desk-top
              computer.&nbsp; Now I spend most of my time staring at a scre=
en
              typing on a keyboard.&nbsp; Who'd a thunk?</font><br clear=3D=
"none">
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         =20
<div style=3D"clear:both;"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br clear=3D"none">
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            From: jpaynepbr <a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" c=
lass=3D"yiv8427189964moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto=3D"mailto:jpaynepbr@cox=
.net" target=3D"_blank" removedlink__cabe3a10-32c0-4544-8857-e2e2e9d85da1__=
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br clear=3D=
"none">
            To: 'TeriAnn J. Wakeman' <a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=
=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv8427189964moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto=3D"mailto:tj=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" removedlink__cabe3a10-32c0-4544-8857-e=
2e2e9d85da1__href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt=
;</a>;
            triumphs <a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" class=3D=
"yiv8427189964moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
net" target=3D"_blank" removedlink__cabe3a10-32c0-4544-8857-e2e2e9d85da1__h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><=
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            Sent: Thu, Jan 30, 2020 9:07 pm<br clear=3D"none">
            Subject: Re: [TR] needs repaired<br clear=3D"none">
            <br clear=3D"none">
           =20
<div dir=3D"ltr">In 1990, when I graduated HS, if you were
              going to graduate and be "college bound", you had to take
              a typing class.&nbsp; It was Sr. year and it was "Health" one
              semester, "Typing" the next or vice versa.<br clear=3D"none">
              <br clear=3D"none">
              If you were "Vo-Tech" typing was an option, but "Health"
              was still mandatory.&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none">
              <br clear=3D"none">
              Same teacher taught both classes.&nbsp; One of the most bitte=
r
              and angry people I have ever met.&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none">
              <br clear=3D"none">
              The though of&nbsp; "Health" class taught by an angry, frigid=
,
              humorless 60 year old woman still makes me wonder.&nbsp; I
              guess if you had to manage the subject matter with a bunch
              of teenagers, many of whom were headed nowhere, after a
              few years, you would end up like that too.<br clear=3D"none">
              <br clear=3D"none">
              Typing was one of the most valuable skills I ever
              learned.&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none">
              <br clear=3D"none">
              My kids all had typing classes in public schools in 1st
              and 2nd grade post 2010.&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none">
              <br clear=3D"none">
              Time and technology change everything. <br clear=3D"none">
              <br clear=3D"none">
              I wish I could learn to type on a phone and manage the
              "autocorrect", that would be something.<br clear=3D"none">
              <br clear=3D"none">
              <br clear=3D"none">
              -----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">
              From: Triumphs &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect">triumph=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;
              On Behalf Of TeriAnn J. Wakeman<br clear=3D"none">
              Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 6:38 PM<br clear=3D"none">
              To: <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect">[email-masked]=
t</a><br clear=3D"none">
              Subject: Re: [TR] needs repaired<br clear=3D"none">
              <br clear=3D"none">
              On 1/30/20 6:23 PM, Bud Rolofson wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt; Exactly, I took typing in eighth grade because there
              lots of girls in <br clear=3D"none">
              &gt; that class and I was a horny 13 yo.&nbsp; But my 50 yo
              typing muscle memory <br clear=3D"none">
              &gt; will always space twice after a period. Can=C3=A2=E2=82=
=AC=E2=84=A2t help
              it.<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt;<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt; Busted.<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt;<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt; Bud<br clear=3D"none">
              <br clear=3D"none">
              I didn't take typing in high school because I didn't want
              to be pigeonholed as a secretary. In early years I went in
              to interview for a technical position with a degree in
              electronics &amp; almost always was asked what my typing
              speed was. When I mentioned about a page ever 2 hours or
              so, I got interviewed for the job I was applying for. I
              knew a woman with a Stanford masters in physics who in the
              mid 60s worked as a tech group secretary.<br clear=3D"none">
              <br clear=3D"none">
              During college when I needed to submit typed papers, I
              traded typing for either a homemade apple pie or a ready
              to bake homemade lasagna. I single space between sentences
              only on emails. That is because my mailer produces strange
              characters when I double space a sentence. The books I
              have authored are all double spaced between sentences and
              my reviewers have forced me to use oxford comas. They are
              not used in technical papers.<br clear=3D"none">
              <br clear=3D"none">
              TeriAnn<br clear=3D"none">
              <br clear=3D"none">
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