Subject: Re: [TR] Tr8 5 speed issue

From: Darrell Walker <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 15:00:57 -0800

Hi Jim,

There are rubber bushings that mount the shifter extension to the transmission.  These tend to degrade, or even be missing altogether, though on a 16K mile car I don’t know.  The test is to lift up on the shifter, if it has play, they are probably shot.  That will make it hard to find gears, particularly getting past the lockout for reverse.

Urethane (and other material) replacements are available.  They can be replaced without dropping the transmission, either from under the car or from above.  It isn’t a fun job, though.

-Darrell

> On Jan 17, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Jim Henningsen <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> 81 tr8 with 16 k orig miles.  Not mine but a friends.  Had been sitting a while, we just had it refreshed and now running well and safe.  The 5 speed was grinding I se one and third intermittently.  I drained fluid and replaced with pennzoil synchromesh.  Shifting a little better but still have some issues.    Clutch master and slave and hose replaced.  Clutch pedal engages near top of pedal.    Lower rpm shifts easier. Sometimes it’s fine.   Not as familiar with this tranny.  With low mileage can’t believe it something inside.  Any plastic bushes on the shift linkage that could explain.   It sure what to do, don’t want o pull tranny as the original exhaust, cats etc still installed.
> Thanks in advance
> Jim Henningsen
> Ocala FL
> 61 TR3A 
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> 75 Tr6
> 81 tr8
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From: DAVE HOGYE <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 18:22:28 -0800 (PST)

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I ran ATF in my '79 Mustang's Borg-Warner T5 back in the '80s. No problems.=
 I don't have the car , but I still have that gearbox stashed in my garage.=
  Maybe I'll put it in a TR some day.  The Stang was a 5.0 Cobra edition th=
at originally had a auto.  I got the T5 in 1983 from a Ford engineer in Det=
roit that raced Mustangs in SCCA showroom stock.=20
Dave H.=20

> On January 17, 2020 at 5:31 PM tochilds <[email-masked]> wrote:
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>     Jim, I bought a new TR7 in 1980 with the 5-speed tranny.  First cold =
weather snap hit and had problems with gear change.  Took it in for service=
 and they drained the trans of gear oil and replaced it with ATF.  A servic=
e bulletin had just been sent out instructing the dealers to do that.  Neve=
r had another problem.=20
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>     Tony Childs
>     Anderson, SC
>     1972 Spitfire MKIV
>     1973 Stag MK2
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>     -------- Original message --------
>     From: Jim Henningsen <[email-masked]>
>     Date: 1/17/20 5:51 PM (GMT-05:00)
>     To: Triumphs <[email-masked]>
>     Subject: [TR] Tr8 5 speed issue
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>     81 tr8 with 16 k orig miles.  Not mine but a friends.  Had been sitti=
ng a while, we just had it refreshed and now running well and safe.  The 5 =
speed was grinding I se one and third intermittently.  I drained fluid and =
replaced with pennzoil synchromesh.  Shifting a little better but still hav=
e some issues.    Clutch master and slave and hose replaced.  Clutch pedal =
engages near top of pedal.    Lower rpm shifts easier. Sometimes it=E2=80=
=99s fine.   Not as familiar with this tranny.  With low mileage can=E2=80=
=99t believe it something inside.  Any plastic bushes on the shift linkage =
that could explain.   It sure what to do, don=E2=80=99t want o pull tranny =
as the original exhaust, cats etc still installed.
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   I ran ATF in my '79 Mustang's Borg-Warner T5 back in the '80s. No proble=
ms. I don't have the car , but I still have that gearbox stashed in my gara=
ge. &nbsp;Maybe I'll put it in a TR some day. &nbsp;The Stang was a 5.0 Cob=
ra edition that originally had a auto. &nbsp;I got the T5 in 1983 from a Fo=
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    <span style=3D"font-family: sans-serif;">Jim, I bought a new TR7 in 198=
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ms with gear change.&nbsp; Took it in for service and they drained the tran=
s of gear oil and replaced it with ATF.&nbsp; A service bulletin had just b=
een sent out instructing the dealers to do that.&nbsp; Never had another pr=
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     Subject: [TR] Tr8 5 speed issue
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   </div>81 tr8 with 16 k orig miles.&nbsp; Not mine but a friends.&nbsp; H=
ad been sitting a while, we just had it refreshed and now running well and =
safe.&nbsp; The 5 speed was grinding I se one and third intermittently.&nbs=
p; I drained fluid and replaced with pennzoil synchromesh.&nbsp; Shifting a=
 little better but still have some issues.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Clutch master =
and slave and hose replaced.&nbsp; Clutch pedal engages near top of pedal.&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Lower rpm shifts easier. Sometimes it=E2=80=99s fine.&nbs=
p;&nbsp; Not as familiar with this tranny.&nbsp; With low mileage can=E2=80=
=99t believe it something inside.&nbsp; Any plastic bushes on the shift lin=
kage that could explain.&nbsp;&nbsp; It sure what to do, don=E2=80=99t want=
 o pull tranny as the original exhaust, cats etc still installed.=20
   <br>Thanks in advance=20
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