Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A speedometer cable

From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2019 22:25:04 +0000 (UTC)

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 Are your using the right-angle drive?=C2=A0 When using the right-angle dri=
ve you use the same cable as the non-OD cars.=C2=A0 The TR3 and TR4's used =
the longer cable without the R-A drive and the cable is routed with generou=
s bends to the speedometer.=C2=A0 These cars have a feature on the right-ha=
nd footwell that provides room for the cable to pass straight out of the tr=
ansmission.=C2=A0 It is part of the treatment around the parking brake.=C2=
=A0 The TR6 does not have this and the R-A drive is required.=C2=A0 I don't=
 know enough about TR4A's to know which setup was used but since you have a=
 TR4A you can answer that for me.
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Dave=20

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From: Dave Connitt <[email-masked]>
To: Triumphs <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sat, Nov 2, 2019 4:56 pm
Subject: [TR] TR4A speedometer cable

So I had ordered a new speedometer cable for my TR4A from Moss and it=E2=80=
=99s about 30 inches too long! I have a a-type overdrive and double checked=
 the catalog part number which is what I have. In checking my old cable, it=
 is the non-overdrive piece. What=E2=80=99s the deal?
Dave Connitt=20
=E2=80=9867 TR4A=20
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<div> <font size=3D"3">Are your using the right-angle drive?&nbsp; When usi=
ng the right-angle drive you use the same cable as the non-OD cars.&nbsp; T=
he TR3 and TR4's used the longer cable without the R-A drive and the cable =
is routed with generous bends to the speedometer.&nbsp; These cars have a f=
eature on the right-hand footwell that provides room for the cable to pass =
straight out of the transmission.&nbsp; It is part of the treatment around =
the parking brake.&nbsp; The TR6 does not have this and the R-A drive is re=
quired.&nbsp; I don't know enough about TR4A's to know which setup was used=
 but since you have a TR4A you can answer that for me.</font><br>
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<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">So I had ordered a new speedometer cable for my TR4A from =
Moss and it=E2=80=99s about 30 inches too long! I have a a-type overdrive a=
nd double checked the catalog part number which is what I have. In checking=
 my old cable, it is the non-overdrive piece. What=E2=80=99s the deal?<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Dave Connitt <br>
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From: "Andrew Uprichard" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2019 18:31:05 -0400

The overdrive cables are 90 inches or so, as they come off the rear of the overdrive and take a circuitous route under the passenger floor and in front of the battery to the speedometer.  I 'd be interested to know how you managed to get a non-OD cable to reach the speedometer in an overdrive car!

Andrew Uprichard

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From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Dave Connitt
Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2019 5:57 PM
To: Triumphs
Subject: [TR] TR4A speedometer cable

So I had ordered a new speedometer cable for my TR4A from Moss and it’s about 30 inches too long! I have a a-type overdrive and double checked the catalog part number which is what I have. In checking my old cable, it is the non-overdrive piece. What’s the deal?
Dave Connitt 
‘67 TR4A 
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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2019 23:00:20 +0000 (UTC)

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 BTW, the Roadster Factory catalog shows the parts to which I referred in m=
y previous post as for TR4 only suggesting the TR4A uses the right angle dr=
ive just like the TR6.
if you don't see anything resembling these parts and you have the R-A drive=
.=C2=A0 The R-A drive looks like this:
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Dave=20

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To: Triumphs <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sat, Nov 2, 2019 4:56 pm
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<div style=3D"color:black;font: 12pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<div> <font size=3D"3">BTW, the Roadster Factory catalog shows the parts to=
 which I referred in my previous post as for TR4 only suggesting the TR4A u=
ses the right angle drive just like the TR6.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><img src=3D"data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUh=
CEUWt4zMCEUWt4zMCEUWt4zMCEUWt4zMCOX/A9jyXBi+1k19AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC" alt=3D"">=
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</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">if you don't see anything resembling these parts and =
you have the R-A drive.&nbsp; The R-A drive looks like this:</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><img src=3D"data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUh=
HpIeVNYggggjGDUKTCggYHIKkAgIGx/8PWztqGMDQECgAAAAASUVORK5CYII=3D" alt=3D""><=
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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2019 23:06:29 +0000 (UTC)

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 The later cars (eg TR6) used a right-angle drive that directs the speedome=
ter cable up over the top of the transmission and the non-OD cable is plent=
y long for this application.=C2=A0 When they relocated the parking brake to=
 the drive shaft tunnel they eliminated the passage for the straight cable =
and the right-angle drive fits (tightly) inside the transmission cover.=C2=
=A0 The drive looks like this:

Cheers
=20
Dave=20

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From: Andrew Uprichard <[email-masked]>
To: 'Dave Connitt' <[email-masked]>
Cc: 'Triumphs' <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sat, Nov 2, 2019 5:42 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A speedometer cable

The overdrive cables are 90 inches or so, as they come off the rear of the =
overdrive and take a circuitous route under the passenger floor and in fron=
t of the battery to the speedometer.=C2=A0 I 'd be interested to know how y=
ou managed to get a non-OD cable to reach the speedometer in an overdrive c=
ar!

Andrew Uprichard

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From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Dave C=
onnitt
Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2019 5:57 PM
To: Triumphs
Subject: [TR] TR4A speedometer cable

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<div> <font size=3D"3">The later cars (eg TR6) used a right-angle drive tha=
t directs the speedometer cable up over the top of the transmission and the=
 non-OD cable is plenty long for this application.&nbsp; When they relocate=
d the parking brake to the drive shaft tunnel they eliminated the passage f=
or the straight cable and the </font><font size=3D"3">right-angle drive fit=
s (tightly) inside the transmission cover.&nbsp; The drive looks like this:=
</font></div>

<div><br>
<img src=3D"data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAOkAAAFtCAYAAADiY=
IKkAgIGx/8PWztqGMDQECgAAAAASUVORK5CYII=3D" alt=3D""></div>

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<div><font size=3D"3">Cheers</font><br>
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From: Andrew Uprichard &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: 'Dave Connitt' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: 'Triumphs' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Sat, Nov 2, 2019 5:42 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A speedometer cable<br>
<br>

<div dir=3D"ltr">The overdrive cables are 90 inches or so, as they come off=
 the rear of the overdrive and take a circuitous route under the passenger =
floor and in front of the battery to the speedometer.&nbsp; I 'd be interes=
ted to know how you managed to get a non-OD cable to reach the speedometer =
in an overdrive car!<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Andrew Uprichard<=
br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">-----Original Message-----<br clear=3D=
"none">From: Triumphs [mailto:<a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:triumphs-=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" removedlink__09366557-f=
900-4ca1-b3e2-3169f4eef6f1__href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
>[email-masked]</a>] On Behalf Of Dave Connitt<br clear=3D=
"none">Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2019 5:57 PM<br clear=3D"none">To: Trium=
phs<br clear=3D"none">Subject: [TR] TR4A speedometer cable<br clear=3D"none=
"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">So I had ordered a new speedometer =
cable for my TR4A from Moss and it=E2=80=99s about 30 inches too long! I ha=
ve a a-type overdrive and double checked the catalog part number which is w=
hat I have. In checking my old cable, it is the non-overdrive piece. What=
=E2=80=99s the deal?<br clear=3D"none">Dave Connitt <br clear=3D"none">=E2=
=80=9867 TR4A <br clear=3D"none">Sent from my iPhone<br clear=3D"none"><br>
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From: Stan Foster <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2019 23:59:46 +0000

Even with the TR3 you can use the non-OD shorter cable and the right angle drive and route the cable shortest path to the speedo. I rather like eliminating the right angle drive as the repro units are a failure point and instead use the proper routing with the longer cable.

Stan

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Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A speedometer cable

Andrew Uprichard

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From: "dave" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 12:06:03 -0600

Route it up through the transmission tunnel.  Works on all TR's.  probably easier to cut a hole for it in a plastic tunnel than a metal one!

And yes, it gets in the way when you are removing the tunnel.  But I think its worth it.

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Andrew Uprichard

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From: "Dave Connitt" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 12:30:39 -0500

Andrew,
I will take pictures !
Dave Connitt

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Hi Dave,

The TR4A is set up pretty much like a TR6 regarding the safety brake and =
speedometer cable routing. I should have just measured my old cable and =
ordered a replacement from that measurement instead of just assuming =
that since I have an overdrive that I need to order an =
=E2=80=9Coverdrive cable=E2=80=9D. I could have had my TR4A back =
together and running! Now it looks like I may have it back together just =
in time to watch the first snowfall of the year! LOL

Dave Connitt

http://www.DavesTR4A.com

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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2019 6:25 PM
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A speedometer cable

=20

Are your using the right-angle drive?  When using the right-angle drive =
you use the same cable as the non-OD cars.  The TR3 and TR4's used the =
longer cable without the R-A drive and the cable is routed with generous =
bends to the speedometer.  These cars have a feature on the right-hand =
footwell that provides room for the cable to pass straight out of the =
transmission.  It is part of the treatment around the parking brake.  =
The TR6 does not have this and the R-A drive is required.  I don't know =
enough about TR4A's to know which setup was used but since you have a =
TR4A you can answer that for me.

=20

Dave=20

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So I had ordered a new speedometer cable for my TR4A from Moss and =
it=E2=80=99s about 30 inches too long! I have a a-type overdrive and =
double checked the catalog part number which is what I have. In checking =
my old cable, it is the non-overdrive piece. What=E2=80=99s the deal?

Dave Connitt=20

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Dave,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The=
 TR4A is set up pretty much like a TR6 regarding the safety brake and =
speedometer cable routing. I should have just measured my old cable and =
ordered a replacement from that measurement instead of just assuming =
that since I have an overdrive that I need to order an =
=E2=80=9Coverdrive cable=E2=80=9D. I could have had my TR4A back =
together and running! Now it looks like I may have it back together just =
in time to watch the first snowfall of the year! =
LOL<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dav=
e Connitt<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><a =
href=3D"http://www.DavesTR4A.com">http://www.DavesTR4A.com</a><o:p></o:p>=
</span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> DAVID MASSEY =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, November 2, 2019 =
6:25 PM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]; =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR4A speedometer =
cable<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Are=
 your using the right-angle drive?&nbsp; When using the right-angle =
drive you use the same cable as the non-OD cars.&nbsp; The TR3 and TR4's =
used the longer cable without the R-A drive and the cable is routed with =
generous bends to the speedometer.&nbsp; These cars have a feature on =
the right-hand footwell that provides room for the cable to pass =
straight out of the transmission.&nbsp; It is part of the treatment =
around the parking brake.&nbsp; The TR6 does not have this and the R-A =
drive is required.&nbsp; I don't know enough about TR4A's to know which =
setup was used but since you have a TR4A you can answer that for =
me.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dav=
e </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>---=
--Original Message-----<br>From: Dave Connitt &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>To: =
Triumphs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<b=
r>Sent: Sat, Nov 2, 2019 4:56 pm<br>Subject: [TR] TR4A speedometer =
cable<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>So =
I had ordered a new speedometer cable for my TR4A from Moss and =
it=E2=80=99s about 30 inches too long! I have a a-type overdrive and =
double checked the catalog part number which is what I have. In checking =
my old cable, it is the non-overdrive piece. What=E2=80=99s the =
deal?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dav=
e Connitt <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>=E2=
=80=9867 TR4A <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Sen=
t from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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