Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Woes

From: "Andrew Uprichard" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 08:21:15 -0500

Have you checked the fuel filter?  Was it running fine prior to this or is it a new rebuild?

Andrew Uprichard
Jackson, Michigan
Would love to be in 50-degree weather

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Subject: [TR] TR3A Woes

Good morning,
My 61 TR3A is coughing a bit and I need some help diagnosing.  Healthy motor, stock dizzy, points, red rotor.  I replaced the seals on the jet bearings and went through the procedure to balance and set mixture.  Idles nicely at 900 rpm, choke works well.  Once warmed up though, it has a bad hesitation when I push the gas pedal down a third of the way from idle.  It coughs and if I don’t pump the throttle will stall.  Very consistent.  The mixture adjusting nuts are turned down 10 flats.  It does run smoother without hesitating with choke on which makes me think it is still not rich enough.  

Any thoughts would be much appreciated while I drink my coffee and try to keep warm in the frigid south.  50 degrees this am in Florida.  

Jim Henningsen
Ocala, FL
61 TR3A 
62 TR4
75 TR6
81 TR8
82 Jeep CJ8

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What are you running in the dashpots? Do they have enough but not too much?
Have you checked that with the plunger removed, and you lift the piston to=
 the top, it falls smoothly and lands with a distinct click?

What's your plug gap?
-- Randall

On 17 November 2019 08:09:04 GMT-05:00, Jim Henningsen <trguy75@gmail=2Eco=
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>Good morning,
>My 61 TR3A is coughing a bit and I need some help diagnosing=2E  Healthy
>motor, stock dizzy, points, red rotor=2E  I replaced the seals on the jet
>bearings and went through the procedure to balance and set mixture=2E=20
>Idles nicely at 900 rpm, choke works well=2E  Once warmed up though, it
>has a bad hesitation when I push the gas pedal down a third of the way
>from idle=2E  It coughs and if I don=E2=80=99t pump the throttle will sta=
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>Very consistent=2E  The mixture adjusting nuts are turned down 10 flats=
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>It does run smoother without hesitating with choke on which makes me
>think it is still not rich enough=2E =20
>
>Any thoughts would be much appreciated while I drink my coffee and try
>to keep warm in the frigid south=2E  50 degrees this am in Florida=2E =20
>
>Jim Henningsen
>Ocala, FL
>61 TR3A=20
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>75 TR6
>81 TR8
>82 Jeep CJ8
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<html><head></head><body>What are you running in the dashpots? Do they have=
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, and you lift the piston to the top, it falls smoothly and lands with a di=
stinct click?<br><br>What's your plug gap?<br>-- Randall<br><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On 17 November 2019 08:09:04 GMT-05:00, Jim Henningsen &lt=
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<pre class=3D"k9mail">Good morning,<br>My 61 TR3A is coughing a bit and I =
need some help diagnosing=2E  Healthy motor, stock dizzy, points, red rotor=
=2E  I replaced the seals on the jet bearings and went through the procedur=
e to balance and set mixture=2E  Idles nicely at 900 rpm, choke works well=
=2E  Once warmed up though, it has a bad hesitation when I push the gas ped=
al down a third of the way from idle=2E  It coughs and if I don=E2=80=99t p=
ump the throttle will stall=2E  Very consistent=2E  The mixture adjusting n=
uts are turned down 10 flats=2E  It does run smoother without hesitating wi=
th choke on which makes me think it is still not rich enough=2E  <br><br>An=
y thoughts would be much appreciated while I drink my coffee and try to kee=
p warm in the frigid south=2E  50 degrees this am in Florida=2E  <br><br>Ji=
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Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 07:16:05 -0700

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First of all, never get too focused on fuel circuits that you ignore the 
ignition circuit. Both have the same symptoms. That said, it wouldn't 
hurt to look at your fuel pressure at idle. if the flow is too low at 
idle the float chamber may not stay full. Had that problem with my 
current reground cam. The fuel pump lobe only partially moved the pump 
leaver giving me almost zero fuel pressure at idle. An electric fuel 
pump was cheaper than replacing an otherwise good cam and cured my off 
idle hesitation problem plus smoothed out my idle.  It also wouldn't 
hurt to check your spark in case of a weak coil.

900 RPM seems like a very high idle. Why do you have it set so high? 
Might be a clue.

TeriAnn
1961 TR3A (built spring of 1960)
1960 Land Rover Dormobile
Don't need anything else.

On 11/17/19 6:09 AM, Jim Henningsen wrote:
> Good morning,
> My 61 TR3A is coughing a bit and I need some help diagnosing.  Healthy motor, stock dizzy, points, red rotor.  I replaced the seals on the jet bearings and went through the procedure to balance and set mixture.  Idles nicely at 900 rpm, choke works well.  Once warmed up though, it has a bad hesitation when I push the gas pedal down a third of the way from idle.  It coughs and if I donâ€™t pump the throttle will stall.  Very consistent.  The mixture adjusting nuts are turned down 10 flats.  It does run smoother without hesitating with choke on which makes me think it is still not rich enough.
>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">First of all, never get too focused on
      fuel circuits that you ignore the ignition circuit. Both have the
      same symptoms. That said, it wouldn't hurt to look at your fuel
      pressure at idle. if the flow is too low at idle the float chamber
      may not stay full. Had that problem with my current reground cam.
      The fuel pump lobe only partially moved the pump leaver giving me
      almost zero fuel pressure at idle. An electric fuel pump was
      cheaper than replacing an otherwise good cam and cured my off idle
      hesitation problem plus smoothed out my idle.  It also wouldn't
      hurt to check your spark in case of a weak coil.</div>
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      Why do you have it set so high? Might be a clue.</div>
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      <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Good morning,
My 61 TR3A is coughing a bit and I need some help diagnosing.  Healthy motor, stock dizzy, points, red rotor.  I replaced the seals on the jet bearings and went through the procedure to balance and set mixture.  Idles nicely at 900 rpm, choke works well.  Once warmed up though, it has a bad hesitation when I push the gas pedal down a third of the way from idle.  It coughs and if I donâ€™t pump the throttle will stall.  Very consistent.  The mixture adjusting nuts are turned down 10 flats.  It does run smoother without hesitating with choke on which makes me think it is still not rich enough.  

Jim Henningsen
Ocala, FL
61 TR3A 
62 TR4
75 TR6
81 TR8
82 Jeep CJ8

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From: "Kinderlehrer" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 13:52:52 -0800

I replaced the master cylinder in my TR3A and now I can't seem to get the brakes bled. I've been around all 4 wheels a few times but I continue to get bubbles and a soft peddle to a point. The peddle will get hard a few inches from the floor and will pump up somewhat. Is it possible that the new master cylinder is bad? I can't see how air is getting in the system, I know I've pulled several reservoirs worth of fluid through.

Thanks for any ideas,
Bob

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From: Frank Fisher <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 22:17:47 +0000 (UTC)

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 my buddies and i have had 2 new master cylinders that where bad straight f=
rom the supplier.
dont give up just yet,=C2=A0
but just sayin
frank

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[email-masked]> wrote: =20
=20
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brakes bled. I've been around all 4 wheels a few times but I continue to ge=
t bubbles and a soft peddle to a point. The peddle will get hard a few inch=
es from the floor and will pump up somewhat. Is it possible that the new ma=
ster cylinder is bad? I can't see how air is getting in the system, I know =
I've pulled several reservoirs worth of fluid through.

Thanks for any ideas,
Bob

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From: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 16:22:22 -0600

Bob,
You may already know this but I learned recently that you should always have you drain bottle above the cylinder outlet to prevent bubbles from entering through the bleeder threads.  

Only other suggestion is to revisit the brake adjustments so the system is not using that first pedal pump just get the shoes started out.  

Hopefully more good suggestions will follow. 

All the best,
Bill

Cactus Jack drinks coffee black......MMM

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> 

Thanks for any ideas,
Bob

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From: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 16:22:22 -0600

Bob,

All the best,
Bill

Thanks for any ideas,
Bob

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From: "Kinderlehrer" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 14:22:44 -0800

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Thanks Frank. They either come from China or India, don=E2=80=99t know =
which is worse.

Bob

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Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 2:18 PM
To: 'Triumphs'; Kinderlehrer
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Brake Bleeding Woes

=20

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from the supplier.

=20

dont give up just yet,=20

=20

but just sayin

=20

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the brakes bled. I've been around all 4 wheels a few times but I =
continue to get bubbles and a soft peddle to a point. The peddle will =
get hard a few inches from the floor and will pump up somewhat. Is it =
possible that the new master cylinder is bad? I can't see how air is =
getting in the system, I know I've pulled several reservoirs worth of =
fluid through.

Thanks for any ideas,
Bob

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Frank Fisher [mailto:[email-masked]] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, =
November 18, 2019 2:18 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Triumphs'; =
Kinderlehrer<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR3A Brake Bleeding =
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2A'>I replaced the master cylinder in my TR3A and now I can't seem to =
get the brakes bled. I've been around all 4 wheels a few times but I =
continue to get bubbles and a soft peddle to a point. The peddle will =
get hard a few inches from the floor and will pump up somewhat. Is it =
possible that the new master cylinder is bad? I can't see how air is =
getting in the system, I know I've pulled several reservoirs worth of =
fluid through.<br><br>Thanks for any =
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From: "Kinderlehrer" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 14:29:49 -0800

Thanks Bill. I don't have the bottle that high. I had my wife pump and hold the brake while I opened the nipple and keep pressure until I closed it, also my tube has a one way valve on the end and was in the bottle below the level of the previously drained fluid. 

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] 
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 2:22 PM
To: Kinderlehrer
Cc: Triumphs
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Brake Bleeding Woes

Bob,

All the best,
Bill

Thanks for any ideas,
Bob

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From: "dave" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 16:42:42 -0600

Speedbleeders make it easy!!!!   http://www.speedbleeder.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Kinderlehrer
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 4:30 PM
To: [email-masked]' <[email-masked]>
Cc: 'Triumphs' <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Brake Bleeding Woes

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] 
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 2:22 PM
To: Kinderlehrer
Cc: Triumphs
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Brake Bleeding Woes

Bob,

All the best,
Bill

Thanks for any ideas,
Bob

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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 16:43:58 -0600

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And I had a clutch  slave cylinder that was bad out of the box

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From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Frank =
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Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 4:18 PM
To: 'Triumphs' <[email-masked]>; Kinderlehrer =
<[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Brake Bleeding Woes

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but just sayin

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&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Frank =
Fisher<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 18, 2019 4:18 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
'Triumphs' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; Kinderlehrer =
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continue to get bubbles and a soft peddle to a point. The peddle will =
get hard a few inches from the floor and will pump up somewhat. Is it =
possible that the new master cylinder is bad? I can't see how air is =
getting in the system, I know I've pulled several reservoirs worth of =
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From: Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 20:53:28 -0500

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On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 4:53 PM Kinderlehrer <[email-masked]>
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> I replaced the master cylinder in my TR3A and now I can't seem to get the
> brakes bled.
>

Did you try bench bleeding the master cylinder?   It can be done on the car
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1ex">I replaced the master cylinder in my TR3A and now I can&#39;t seem to =
get the brakes bled. <br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Did you try bench=
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From: Chris Simo <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 21:21:17 -0500

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I made a pressure bleeder for a friend s tr3. Simply a tire valve in an old
cover, 4 psi and ready to go

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<div dir="auto"><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">I made a pressure bleeder for a friend s tr3. Simply a tire valve in an old cover, 4 psi and ready to go</div></div>

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