Subject: Re: [TR] Paint job for 1972 TR6

From: Allen Hess <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 19:50:42 -0400

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Do you belong to a club (Delaware Valley Triumphs)? Ask other members. Not k=
nowing what =E2=80=9CPhiladelphia area=E2=80=9D encompasses here are a few.

Motor Car Garage in Maple Shade NJ. They have a TR6 in progress:
https://www.motorcar-garage.com/gallery/1972-triumph-tr6/

Further afield north, there is Ragtops and Roadsters in Perkasie, PA.=20
Triumph Rescue in Bally, PA and K&T Vintage Sportscars in Bethlehem, PA. The=
y all do concours restorations.=20

If you=E2=80=99re looking to do the engine compartment, that could entail a l=
ot of hours disassembly and reassembly. Engine out (?), radiator, brakes, li=
nes, wiring etc.
You say that the paint is not that bad, maybe a professional detailing would=
 be an option. Not a $200 job done in a day but a really concours sort of jo=
b.=20

Allen

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>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 1:18 AM, Jeff Nathanson <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>=20
>> =EF=BB=BF
>> Hello,
>> =20
>> I=E2=80=99m looking to have my =E2=80=9972 TR6 painted. However there are=
  2 restoration/paint places near me, (Philadelphia area).  They are both sa=
y that it=E2=80=99s going to cost about $15,000. There is nothing wrong with=
 my car mechanically. And the current paint job is not that bad. But the eng=
ine bay is the (original  ???) black. And the frame night need some alignmen=
t. The doors do not align exactly. I=E2=80=99m not looking for a car show lo=
oking vehicle. But I don=E2=80=99t want a Maaco job either. Does anyone have=
  any suggestions?
>> =20
>> Thanks,
>> Jeff Nathanson
>> ** [email-masked] **
>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Do you belong to a club (Delaware Valley Tr=
iumphs)? Ask other members. Not knowing what =E2=80=9CPhiladelphia area=E2=80=
=9D encompasses here are a few.<div><br></div><div>Motor Car Garage in Maple=
 Shade NJ. They have a TR6 in progress:</div><div><a href=3D"https://www.mot=
orcar-garage.com/gallery/1972-triumph-tr6/">https://www.motorcar-garage.com/=
gallery/1972-triumph-tr6/</a></div><div><br></div><div>Further afield north,=
 there is Ragtops and Roadsters in Perkasie, PA.&nbsp;</div><div>Triumph Res=
cue in Bally, PA and K&amp;T Vintage Sportscars in Bethlehem, PA. They all d=
o concours restorations.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>If you=E2=80=99re lo=
oking to do the engine compartment, that could entail a lot of hours disasse=
mbly and reassembly. Engine out (?), radiator, brakes, lines, wiring etc.<br=
>You say that the paint is not that bad, maybe a professional detailing woul=
d be an option. Not a $200 job done in a day but a really concours sort of j=
ob.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Allen<br><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><bloc=
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"cite">On Oct 1, 2019, at 1:18 AM, Jeff Nathanson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jeff=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div>=
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 class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99m looking to have my =E2=80=9972 TR6 painted.=
 However there are &nbsp;2 restoration/paint places near me, (Philadelphia a=
rea).&nbsp; They are both say that it=E2=80=99s going to cost about $15,000.=
 There is nothing wrong with my car mechanically. And the current paint job i=
s not that bad. But the engine bay is the (original &nbsp;???) black. And th=
e frame night need some alignment. The doors do not align exactly. I=E2=80=99=
m not looking for a car show looking vehicle. But I don=E2=80=99t want a Maa=
co job either. Does anyone have &nbsp;any suggestions?<o:p></o:p></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:=
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From: Brian Induni <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 21:07:03 -0700

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Hey Jeff. Well, a "paint job" is a very relative conversation. If the
engine bay is black then it's been repainted - someone correct me if I'm
wrong but Triumph painted the engine bay body color. And are you saying the
frame DOES need to be straightened or are the paint shops saying that
because the door gaps don't line up? If they are telling you that based on
the door gaps, find another shop that actually knows Triumphs (or any
British car for that matter...).

As for cost, $15k for a paint job needs some quantification - what are they
doing for that price? My guess is they will spend 1 to 2 days sanding the
whole car, then they are accounting for 1 day of basic/minor repairs. If
they need to do ANY metal work, there could be 2-3 more days added. Then
there is 1-2 days of primer/sealer and sanding. Then 1 day of painting, 1
day of curing, 1-2 days of cut & buff. This is assuming you go single stage
paint and not color/clear coat.

My experience is that materials alone cost $2-3k and I do my own painting.
So at $125 / hour, a 12 day project will be ~$12k, then add in $3k for
supplies and viola - $15k. And that's not even doing any body work! I've
seen shops that can do much better than that, but you'll need to find one
that knows British cars or one that will work with you on the project.

Hope this helps.

Brian

> > ?
> > Hello,
> >
> > I?m looking to have my ?72 TR6 painted. However there are  2
> restoration/paint places near me, (Philadelphia area).  They are both say
> that it?s going to cost about $15,000. There is nothing wrong with my car
> mechanically. And the current paint job is not that bad. But the engine bay
> is the (original  ???) black. And the frame night need some alignment. The
> doors do not align exactly. I?m not looking for a car show looking vehicle.
> But I don?t want a Maaco job either. Does anyone have  any suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jeff Nathanson
> ------------------------------
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>Hey Jeff. Well, a &quot;pa=
int job&quot; is a very relative conversation. If the engine bay is black t=
hen it&#39;s been repainted - someone correct me if I&#39;m wrong but Trium=
ph painted the engine bay body color. And are you saying the frame DOES nee=
d to be straightened or are the paint shops saying that because the door ga=
ps don&#39;t line up? If they are telling you that based on the door gaps, =
find another shop that actually knows Triumphs (or any British car for that=
 matter...).=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>As for cost, $15k =
for a paint job needs some quantification - what are they doing for that=C2=
=A0price? My guess is they will spend 1 to 2 days sanding the whole car, th=
en they are accounting for 1 day of basic/minor repairs. If they need to do=
 ANY metal work, there could be 2-3 more days added. Then there is 1-2 days=
 of primer/sealer and sanding. Then 1 day of painting, 1 day of curing, 1-2=
 days of cut &amp; buff. This is assuming you go single stage paint and not=
 color/clear coat.</div><div><br></div><div>My experience is that materials=
 alone cost $2-3k and I do my own painting. So at $125 / hour, a 12 day pro=
ject will be ~$12k, then add in $3k for supplies and viola - $15k. And that=
&#39;s not even doing any body work! I&#39;ve seen shops that can do much b=
etter than that, but you&#39;ll need to find one that knows British cars or=
 one that will work with you on the project.</div><div><br></div><div>Hope =
this helps.</div><div><br></div><div>Brian</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px s=
olid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
&gt; ?<br>
&gt; Hello,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 <br>
&gt; I?m looking to have my ?72 TR6 painted. However there are=C2=A0 2 rest=
oration/paint places near me, (Philadelphia area).=C2=A0 They are both say =
that it?s going to cost about $15,000. There is nothing wrong with my car m=
echanically. And the current paint job is not that bad. But the engine bay =
is the (original=C2=A0 ???) black. And the frame night need some alignment.=
 The doors do not align exactly. I?m not looking for a car show looking veh=
icle. But I don?t want a Maaco job either. Does anyone have=C2=A0 any sugge=
stions?<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 <br>
&gt; Thanks,<br>
&gt; Jeff Nathanson<br>
&gt; ** <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">triump=
[email-masked]</a> **<br>
&gt; <br><br>
<br>
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