Subject: [TR] Subject: Re: Pain job for 1972 TR6

From: Gene M <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2019 19:35:33 +0000

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John,

I took a look this morning at my TR6 books.  Bentley repair manual does sho=
w a color code in the SN for white.  I was not able to get any information =
to match a factory white 40 years ago.  PPG looked through all of their boo=
ks and the only formula they could find was the Jaguar white, which what I =
went with.

My Brooklands Book Gold Portfolio which is a compilation of magazine articl=
es and advertisements had no paint information and I couldn't find any arti=
cle that had information on colors or paint type.

I did not mean to imply that different color body panels were used by the f=
actory and then repainted.  My point was that my car, and all other cars I =
pulled parts from over the years were pieced together from wrecks.  I was n=
ever able to locate a salvage yard in Sacramento, CA that had white TR6 bod=
y panels.  I also could never find an intact left rear tail light assembly =
with all lenses still good--until someone told me about TRF and Moss Motors=
 in the 1980's.

Were the TR6 painted with lacquer, and did the paint shop spray the assembl=
ed cars before the engine was dropped in or were the panels already painted=
?  The sequence of articles in the Brooklands Book indicates there were pro=
bably manufacturing changes over the years since 1969.

I am attaching 2 pics of the "square threaded" bolts that attached my body =
panels.  Can anyone identify?  If helpful, I will take some measurements an=
d thread count--not to find a replacement, but to answer an issue that I en=
countered over 40 years ago.

<edited original post>

In the ten years I worked at StandardTriumph in Coventry (1965-1975) I woul=
d comment as follows:

1. White was always available as an original colour on all models with tan,=
 black or red trim.

3. If I?ve read the post correctly, it seems you feel body panels were a so=
rt of pick and mix in any colour before final painting? No way! All bodies =
for all markets and all models came out of the body shop in white undercoat=
 prior to going through the paint shop in colour batches, with cars in blac=
k being painted only on Friday afternoons. This was intentional as Black wa=
s not a popular colour and allowed the spray lines to be flushed through pr=
ior to paint shop cleaning over the weekend.

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portant">I
 took a look this morning at my TR6 books.&nbsp; Bentley repair manual does=
 show a color code in the SN for white.&nbsp; I was not able to get any inf=
ormation to match a factory white 40 years ago.&nbsp; PPG looked through al=
l of their books and the only formula they could
 find was the Jaguar white, which what I went with.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></div=
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 color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
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portant"><br>
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m, BlinkMacSystemFont, Roboto, &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, sans-serif; font=
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portant">My
 Brooklands Book Gold Portfolio which is a compilation of magazine articles=
 and advertisements had no paint information and I couldn't find any articl=
e that had information on colors or paint type.</span></div>
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<div style=3D""><font color=3D"#201f1e"><span style=3D"font-size: 14.6667px=
;">I did not mean to imply that different color body panels were used by th=
e factory and then repainted.&nbsp; My point was that my car, and all other=
 cars I pulled parts from over the years were
 pieced together from wrecks.&nbsp; I was never able to locate a salvage ya=
rd in Sacramento, CA that had white TR6 body panels.&nbsp; I also could nev=
er find an intact left rear tail light assembly with all lenses still good-=
-until someone told me about TRF and Moss
 Motors in the 1980's.</span></font></div>
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<font color=3D"#201f1e"><span style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 14.6667px">W=
ere the TR6 painted with lacquer, and did the paint shop spray the assemble=
d cars before the engine was dropped in or were the panels already painted?=
&nbsp; The sequence of articles in the Brooklands
 Book indicates there were probably manufacturing changes over the years si=
nce 1969.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></font></div>
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<font color=3D"#201f1e"><span style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 14.6667px">I=
 am attaching 2 pics of the &quot;square threaded&quot; bolts that attached=
 my body panels.&nbsp; Can anyone identify?&nbsp; If helpful, I will take s=
ome measurements and thread count--not to find a replacement,
 but to answer an issue that I encountered over 40 years ago.&nbsp;&nbsp;</=
span></font></div>
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m, BlinkMacSystemFont, Roboto, &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, sans-serif; font=
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portant">In
 the ten years I worked at StandardTriumph in Coventry (1965-1975) I would =
comment as follows:</span><br style=3D"color: rgb(32, 31, 30); font-family:=
 &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI Web (West European)&quot;, &quot;Sego=
e UI&quot;, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Roboto, &quot;Helvetica Neue=
&quot;, sans-serif; font-size: 14.6667px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 2=
55)">
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ot;Segoe UI Web (West European)&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, -apple-system,=
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m, BlinkMacSystemFont, Roboto, &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, sans-serif; font=
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portant">1.
 White was always available as an original colour on all models with tan, b=
lack or red trim.</span><br style=3D"color: rgb(32, 31, 30); font-family: &=
quot;Segoe UI&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI Web (West European)&quot;, &quot;Segoe =
UI&quot;, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Roboto, &quot;Helvetica Neue&q=
uot;, sans-serif; font-size: 14.6667px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255=
)">
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ot;Segoe UI Web (West European)&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, -apple-system,=
 BlinkMacSystemFont, Roboto, &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, sans-serif; font-s=
ize: 14.6667px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255)">
<span style=3D"color: rgb(32, 31, 30); font-family: &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, &=
quot;Segoe UI Web (West European)&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, -apple-syste=
m, BlinkMacSystemFont, Roboto, &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, sans-serif; font=
-size: 14.6667px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !im=
portant">3.
 If I?ve read the post correctly, it seems you feel body panels were a sort=
 of pick and mix in any colour before final painting? No way! All bodies fo=
r all markets and all models came out of the body shop in white undercoat p=
rior to going through the paint
 shop in colour batches, with cars in black being painted only on Friday af=
ternoons. This was intentional as Black was not a popular colour and allowe=
d the spray lines to be flushed through prior to paint shop cleaning over t=
he weekend.</span><br style=3D"color: rgb(32, 31, 30); font-family: &quot;S=
egoe UI&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI Web (West European)&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI&quo=
t;, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Roboto, &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, =
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