Subject: [TR] Sale of TR8

From: Michael Coe <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 12:14:21 -0600

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1982 TR8. This, after much thought and deliberation since last year, =
I=E2=80=99ve decided to sell.Yes, I know October 1981 was the last, but =
here in Canada the Triumph dealers ordered a bunch in 1981. Allowing =
them into Canada in1982 I understand with the capitol C part of the =
serial number. I=E2=80=99m posting this to our site here before listing =
in the usual places. Further details to be forwarded to genuine =
interest.

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>   3. Re: 81 TR7 question (Darrell Walker)
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>   5. Re: 81 TR7 question (Stan Foster)
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>   8. Re: 81 TR7 question (Alex & Janet Thomson)
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>  10. Re: 81 TR7 question (alan salvatore)
>  11. Re: TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs (Robert Rochlin)
>  12. Re: TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs (TERRY SMITH)
>  13. Re: TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs (DAVID MASSEY)
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> Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 19:11:21 -0400
> From: "Jim Henningsen" <[email-masked]>
> To: "'Triumphs'" <[email-masked]>
> Subject: [TR] 81 TR7 question
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> Did all 81 TR7 fuel injected cars come with 85mph or could you get a =
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> Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 18:21:22 -0500
> From: Roger Elliott <[email-masked]>
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> Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question
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> From: Darrell Walker <[email-masked]>
> To: Triumphs <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question
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> By the way, the regulation was enacted on September 1, 1979, and =
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>> On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:21 PM, Roger Elliott <[email-masked]> wrote:
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have been able to get a speedometer for a different market and install =
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>> Roger
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>> On 9/4/19 6:11 PM, Jim Henningsen wrote:
>>> Did all 81 TR7 fuel injected cars come with 85mph or could you get a =
140 mph
>>> from factory?  Thanks,
>>> Jim Henningsen
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> Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 16:27:31 -0700
> From: Darrell Walker <[email-masked]>
> To: Triumphs <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question
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>> By the way, the regulation was enacted on September 1, 1979, and =
eliminated on October 22, 1981.  I believe any US market 81 cars were =
produced that late.
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> Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 23:41:59 +0000
> From: Stan Foster <[email-masked]>
> To: Darrell Walker <[email-masked]>, Triumphs
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eliminated on October 22, 1981.  I believe any US market 81 cars were =
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> From: Darrell Walker <[email-masked]>
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>> On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Stan Foster <[email-masked]> wrote:
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but there was no stop for the speedo needle so the old joke was doing =
"half a tank" downhill as the fuel gauge was inset at the bottom of the =
speedo gauge. Half a tank would be around 100mph.
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> Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 7:46:11 PM
> To: Stan Foster <[email-masked]>
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> Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question
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> Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question
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> Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 20:38:23 -0400
> From: Jim Henningsen <[email-masked]>
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> Cc: Darrell Walker <[email-masked]>, Triumphs
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> Thanks all for the feedback.  I was pretty sure 85 was the max speedo =
limit on those.  The seller of an 81 tr7 is claiming 6000 orig miles and =
it looks like it judging by the one year only velour but the speedo is a =
140 so I question the validity despite the condition.=20
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>> On Sep 4, 2019, at 7:56 PM, Stan Foster <[email-masked]> wrote:
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>> Aha!. I recall with my old Morris 1000 the speedo topped out at 80mph =
but there was no stop for the speedo needle so the old joke was doing =
"half a tank" downhill as the fuel gauge was inset at the bottom of the =
speedo gauge. Half a tank would be around 100mph.
>> From: Darrell Walker <[email-masked]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 7:46:11 PM
>> To: Stan Foster <[email-masked]>
>> Cc: Triumphs <[email-masked]>
>> Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question
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>> The display was limited.  Meaning 85 was the highest number allowed =
to display.  The regulation also required that 55 be called out in some =
fashion.  Note that some makers put tick marks beyond 85, just without =
any numbers.
>>=20
>>> On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Stan Foster <[email-masked]> wrote:
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>>> What method was used to limit the TR7 speed to 85mph ?
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>>> Stan
>>> From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> on behalf of =
Darrell Walker <[email-masked]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 7:27:31 PM
>>> To: Triumphs <[email-masked]>
>>> Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question
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>>>> On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Darrell Walker <[email-masked]> =
wrote:
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>>>> By the way, the regulation was enacted on September 1, 1979, and =
eliminated on October 22, 1981.  I believe any US market 81 cars were =
produced that late.
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late?.
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> From: alan salvatore <[email-masked]>
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> I used to have an 81 TR8 with 85 mph speedo,  I changed it out with a =
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> On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 9:02 PM Jim Henningsen <[email-masked]> =
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>> Thanks all for the feedback.  I was pretty sure 85 was the max speedo
>> limit on those.  The seller of an 81 tr7 is claiming 6000 orig miles =
and it
>> looks like it judging by the one year only velour but the speedo is a =
140
>> so I question the validity despite the condition.
>> Jim
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>> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Sep 4, 2019, at 7:56 PM, Stan Foster <[email-masked]> wrote:
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>> Aha!. I recall with my old Morris 1000 the speedo topped out at 80mph =
but
>> there was no stop for the speedo needle so the old joke was doing =
"half a
>> tank" downhill as the fuel gauge was inset at the bottom of the =
speedo
>> gauge. Half a tank would be around 100mph.
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Darrell Walker <[email-masked]>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 4, 2019 7:46:11 PM
>> *To:* Stan Foster <[email-masked]>
>> *Cc:* Triumphs <[email-masked]>
>> *Subject:* Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question
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>> The display was limited.  Meaning 85 was the highest number allowed =
to
>> display.  The regulation also required that 55 be called out in some
>> fashion.  Note that some makers put tick marks beyond 85, just =
without any
>> numbers.
>>=20
>> On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Stan Foster <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>=20
>> What method was used to limit the TR7 speed to 85mph ?
>>=20
>> Stan
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Triumphs <[email-masked]> on behalf of =
Darrell
>> Walker <[email-masked]>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 4, 2019 7:27:31 PM
>> *To:* Triumphs <[email-masked]>
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wrote:
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>>> By the way, the regulation was enacted on September 1, 1979, and
>> eliminated on October 22, 1981.  I believe any US market 81 cars were
>> produced that late.
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late?.
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> From: Robert Rochlin <[email-masked]>
> To: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
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> Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs
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> I had the same experience with World Wide Auto Parts as Dave. A =
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those in first and then make a determination as to whether you need new =
springs or not.
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and was quite disappointed in the result.  The damping was inadequate.  =
This was many years ago and they may have sorted this out since then.  I =
have more recently (like last year) had a pair (may have been the same =
pair) reworked by World Wide Auto Parts in Madison =
(http://www.nosimport.com/) with much better results.  Peter up there =
knows Triumphs.
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: G.D. Huggins <[email-masked]>
>> To: Triumph Mailing List <[email-masked]>
>> Sent: Sun, Sep 1, 2019 9:45 pm
>> Subject: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs
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>> All,
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>> After almost eight years of driving bliss, with just under 18K miles, =
it's time to replace what I suspect are the original road springs.
>> The car has gotten way too bouncy, especially in the rear.  Take a =
curve on a rough road, and it rear steers something awful. losing its =
contact with the road, as if the spring is not forcing the wheel back =
down quickly enough.
>> As far as shocks go, I?ve got Spax adjustable up front, and just =
ordered some heavy duty Armstrongs from Apple Hydraulics for the rear.
>>=20
>> I?ve gotten into some research, and everything seems to be pointing =
toward three grades of stiffness; original, uprated and competition.
>> I am leaning toward the ?uprated? variety to stiffen the ride, but I =
want to keep stock height to not effect wheel camber.
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>> Any experienced-based suggestions?
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>> Thanks in advance.
>>=20
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>> Cheers,
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>> 1965 Triumph TR4A
>> CTC 63569LO
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> From: TERRY SMITH <[email-masked]>
> To: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>, [email-masked],
> 	[email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs
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> Hi, Dave.  Just curious.  What was the fluid you ran in the rebuilt =
shocks that didn't dampen as well as you'd like?  And what do you =
recommend?  (I've been using Harley fork fluid, seems to work fine =
enough but maybe could be better.)
>=20
>> On September 2, 2019 at 6:26 AM DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> =
wrote:
>>=20
>>    I agree with Mark and Jerry.  Since you have shocks on order put =
those in first and then make a determination as to whether you need new =
springs or not.
>>=20
>>    BTW, I sent off a set of shocks to Apple for the "Heavy Duty" =
rebuild and was quite disappointed in the result.  The damping was =
inadequate.  This was many years ago and they may have sorted this out =
since then.  I have more recently (like last year) had a pair (may have =
been the same pair) reworked by World Wide Auto Parts in Madison =
(http://www.nosimport.com/) with much better results.  Peter up there =
knows Triumphs.
>>=20
>>    Dave
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>    -----Original Message-----
>>    From: G.D. Huggins <[email-masked]>
>>    To: Triumph Mailing List <[email-masked]>
>>    Sent: Sun, Sep 1, 2019 9:45 pm
>>    Subject: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs
>>=20
>>    All,
>>=20
>>    After almost eight years of driving bliss, with just under 18K =
miles, it's time to replace what I suspect are the original road =
springs.
>>    The car has gotten way too bouncy, especially in the rear.  Take a =
curve on a rough road, and it rear steers something awful. losing its =
contact with the road, as if the spring is not forcing the wheel back =
down quickly enough.
>>    As far as shocks go, I?ve got Spax adjustable up front, and just =
ordered some heavy duty Armstrongs from Apple Hydraulics for the rear.
>>=20
>>    I?ve gotten into some research, and everything seems to be =
pointing toward three grades of stiffness; original, uprated and =
competition.
>>    I am leaning toward the ?uprated? variety to stiffen the ride, but =
I want to keep stock height to not effect wheel camber.
>>=20
>>    Any experienced-based suggestions?
>>=20
>>    Thanks in advance.
>>=20
>>=20
>>    Cheers,
>>=20
>>    Guy D. Huggins
>>    1965 Triumph TR4A
>>    CTC 63569LO
>>=20
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>>=20
>>=20
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> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 14:58:02 +0000 (UTC)
> From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
> To: [email-masked], [email-masked],
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> Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs
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> I did not try changing the fluid that was put in by the rebuilder.? It =
was probably standard fork oil.? A heavier oil may have made the =
difference but I never got a roundtuit.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: TERRY SMITH <[email-masked]>
> To: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>; gdhuggins =
<[email-masked]>; triumphs <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Thu, Sep 5, 2019 9:32 am
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs
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> Hi, Dave.? Just curious.? What was the fluid you ran in the rebuilt =
shocks that didn't dampen as well as you'd like?? And what do you =
recommend?? (I've been using Harley fork fluid, seems to work fine =
enough but maybe could be better.)
> On September 2, 2019 at 6:26 AM DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> =
wrote:=20
>=20
> I agree with Mark and Jerry.? Since you have shocks on order put those =
in first and then make a determination as to whether you need new =
springs or not.
> BTW, I sent off a set of shocks to Apple for the "Heavy Duty" rebuild =
and was quite disappointed in the result.? The damping was inadequate.? =
This was many years ago and they may have sorted this out since then.? I =
have more recently (like last year) had a pair (may have been the same =
pair) reworked by World Wide Auto Parts in Madison =
(http://www.nosimport.com/) with much better results.? Peter up there =
knows Triumphs.=20
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> Dave =20
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> -----Original Message-----=20
> From: G.D. Huggins <[email-masked]>=20
> To: Triumph Mailing List <[email-masked]>=20
> Sent: Sun, Sep 1, 2019 9:45 pm=20
> Subject: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs=20
>=20
> All,=20
>=20
> After almost eight years of driving bliss, with just under 18K miles, =
it's time to replace what I suspect are the original road springs.=20
> The car has gotten way too bouncy, especially in the rear.? Take a =
curve on a rough road, and it rear steers something awful. losing its =
contact with the road, as if the spring is not forcing the wheel back =
down quickly enough.=20
> As far as shocks go, I?ve got Spax adjustable up front, and just =
ordered some heavy duty Armstrongs from Apple Hydraulics for the rear.=20=

>=20
> I?ve gotten into some research, and everything seems to be pointing =
toward three grades of stiffness; original, uprated and competition.=20
> I am leaning toward the ?uprated? variety to stiffen the ride, but I =
want to keep stock height to not effect wheel camber.=20
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> Any experienced-based suggestions?=20
>=20
> Thanks in advance.=20
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>=20
> Cheers,=20
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> Guy D. Huggins=20
> 1965 Triumph TR4A=20
> CTC 63569LO=20
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> Online project diary at http://www.genfiniti.com/triumph=20
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> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2019 10:27:47 -0500
> From: Randall <[email-masked]>
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question
> Message-ID: <[email-masked]>
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> Could it have been originally delivered n another country? Maybe =
Canada, or a "self-import" from the UK.
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> I found a Coventry-made tractor on Craigslist, some little town in =
Indiana, even though North American versions were supposed to be built =
in Dearborn. No idea how it got there, but seems to be the real deal.
> -- Randall
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> On 4 September 2019 19:38:23 GMT-05:00, Jim Henningsen =
<[email-masked]> wrote:
>> Thanks all for the feedback.  I was pretty sure 85 was the max speedo
>> limit on those.  The seller of an 81 tr7 is claiming 6000 orig miles
>> and it looks like it judging by the one year only velour but the =
speedo
>> is a 140 so I question the validity despite the condition.=20
>> Jim
>>=20
>> Sent from my iPad
>>=20
>>> On Sep 4, 2019, at 7:56 PM, Stan Foster <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> Aha!. I recall with my old Morris 1000 the speedo topped out at =
80mph
>> but there was no stop for the speedo needle so the old joke was doing
>> "half a tank" downhill as the fuel gauge was inset at the bottom of =
the
>> speedo gauge. Half a tank would be around 100mph.
>>> From: Darrell Walker <[email-masked]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 7:46:11 PM
>>> To: Stan Foster <[email-masked]>
>>> Cc: Triumphs <[email-masked]>
>>> Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> The display was limited.  Meaning 85 was the highest number allowed
>> to display.  The regulation also required that 55 be called out in =
some
>> fashion.  Note that some makers put tick marks beyond 85, just =
without
>> any numbers.
>>>=20
>>>> On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Stan Foster <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>> What method was used to limit the TR7 speed to 85mph ?
>>>>=20
>>>> Stan
>>>> From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> on behalf of
>> Darrell Walker <[email-masked]>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 7:27:31 PM
>>>> To: Triumphs <[email-masked]>
>>>> Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>> On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Darrell Walker <[email-masked]>
>> wrote:
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> By the way, the regulation was enacted on September 1, 1979, and
>> eliminated on October 22, 1981.  I believe any US market 81 cars were
>> produced that late.
>>>>=20
>>>> I meant to say ?I doubt any US market 81 cars were produced that
>> late?.
>>>>=20
>>>> ** [email-masked] **
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> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 12:20:23 -0500
> From: "dave" <[email-masked]>
> To: <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs
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> Type of shock oil will definitely make a difference.  I believe (but =
could be wrong) that standard shock oil is 20w?  years ago I had a car =
where the shocks were shot.  I put 90 wt gear oil in just for grins.  =
Suspension was rock hard until it leaked out again.
>=20
>=20
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> From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of DAVID =
MASSEY
> Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 9:58 AM
> To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]; =
[email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs
>=20
>=20
>=20
> I did not try changing the fluid that was put in by the rebuilder.  It =
was probably standard fork oil.  A heavier oil may have made the =
difference but I never got a roundtuit.
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> Dave=20
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> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thu, Sep 5, 2019 9:32 am
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs
>=20
> Hi, Dave.  Just curious.  What was the fluid you ran in the rebuilt =
shocks that didn't dampen as well as you'd like?  And what do you =
recommend?  (I've been using Harley fork fluid, seems to work fine =
enough but maybe could be better.)
>=20
> On September 2, 2019 at 6:26 AM DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked] =
>=20
> I agree with Mark and Jerry.  Since you have shocks on order put those =
in first and then make a determination as to whether you need new =
springs or not.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> BTW, I sent off a set of shocks to Apple for the "Heavy Duty" rebuild =
and was quite disappointed in the result.  The damping was inadequate.  =
This was many years ago and they may have sorted this out since then.  I =
have more recently (like last year) had a pair (may have been the same =
pair) reworked by World Wide Auto Parts in Madison =
(http://www.nosimport.com/) with much better results.  Peter up there =
knows Triumphs.=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Dave=20
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> -----Original Message-----=20
> From: G.D. Huggins <[email-masked] =
> To: Triumph Mailing List <[email-masked] =
> Sent: Sun, Sep 1, 2019 9:45 pm=20
> Subject: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs=20
>=20
> All,=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> After almost eight years of driving bliss, with just under 18K miles, =
it's time to replace what I suspect are the original road springs.=20
>=20
> The car has gotten way too bouncy, especially in the rear.  Take a =
curve on a rough road, and it rear steers something awful. losing its =
contact with the road, as if the spring is not forcing the wheel back =
down quickly enough.=20
>=20
> As far as shocks go, I?ve got Spax adjustable up front, and just =
ordered some heavy duty Armstrongs from Apple Hydraulics for the rear.=20=

>=20
>=20
>=20
> I?ve gotten into some research, and everything seems to be pointing =
toward three grades of stiffness; original, uprated and competition.=20
>=20
> I am leaning toward the ?uprated? variety to stiffen the ride, but I =
want to keep stock height to not effect wheel camber.=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Any experienced-based suggestions?=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Thanks in advance.=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Cheers,=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Guy D. Huggins=20
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> 1965 Triumph TR4A=20
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> CTC 63569LO=20
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&nbsp;&nbsp;3. Re: 81 TR7 question (Darrell Walker)<br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;4. Re: 81 TR7 question (Darrell Walker)<br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;5. Re: 81 TR7 question (Stan Foster)<br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;6. Re: 81 TR7 question (Darrell Walker)<br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;7. Re: 81 TR7 question (Stan Foster)<br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;8. Re: 81 TR7 question (Alex &amp; Janet Thomson)<br =
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&nbsp;11. Re: TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs (Robert Rochlin)<br =
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SMITH)<br class=3D""> &nbsp;13. Re: TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs =
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class=3D""> &nbsp;15. Re: TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs (dave)<br =
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4 Sep 2019 19:11:21 -0400<br class=3D"">From: "Jim Henningsen" =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">To: "'Triumphs'" =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">Subject: [TR] 81 TR7 =
question<br class=3D"">Message-ID: =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
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style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>charset=3D"us-ascii"<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Did all 81 TR7 fuel injected cars come with =
85mph or could you get a 140 mph<br class=3D"">from factory? =
&nbsp;Thanks,<br class=3D"">Jim Henningsen<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">------------------------------<br=
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2019 18:21:22 -0500<br class=3D"">From: Roger Elliott =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">To: [email-masked]<br =
class=3D"">Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question<br class=3D"">Message-ID: =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dutf-8; format=3Dflowed<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">There was a federal law that mandated 85 mph =
speedometers.?? You may <br class=3D"">have been able to get a =
speedometer for a different market and install it.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Roger<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">On 9/4/19 6:11 PM, Jim =
Henningsen wrote:<br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">Did =
all 81 TR7 fuel injected cars come with 85mph or could you get a 140 =
mph<br class=3D"">from factory? &nbsp;Thanks,<br class=3D"">Jim =
Henningsen<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">** [email-masked] **<br =
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-0700<br class=3D"">From: Darrell Walker &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">To: Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
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enacted on September 1, 1979, and eliminated on October 22, 1981. =
&nbsp;I believe any US market 81 cars were produced that late.<br =
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&nbsp;&nbsp;You may have been able to get a speedometer for a different =
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class=3D""><br class=3D"">On 9/4/19 6:11 PM, Jim Henningsen wrote:<br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">Did all 81 TR7 fuel =
injected cars come with 85mph or could you get a 140 mph<br =
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class=3D"">Message: 4<br class=3D"">Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 16:27:31 =
-0700<br class=3D"">From: Darrell Walker &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">To: Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question<br class=3D"">Message-ID: =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
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class=3D"">On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Darrell Walker =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">By the way, the regulation was enacted on September 1, 1979, =
and eliminated on October 22, 1981. &nbsp;I believe any US market 81 =
cars were produced that late.<br class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">I =
meant to say ?I doubt any US market 81 cars were produced that late?.<br =
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class=3D"">Message: 5<br class=3D"">Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 23:41:59 =
+0000<br class=3D"">From: Stan Foster &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">To: Darrell Walker &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, Triumphs<br =
class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span>&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">Subject: Re: [TR] =
81 TR7 question<br class=3D"">Message-ID:<br class=3D""><span =
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</span>&lt;[email-masked]=
rod.outlook.com&gt;<br class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span><br class=3D"">Content-Type: =
text/plain; charset=3D"windows-1252"<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">What =
method was used to limit the TR7 speed to 85mph ?<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Stan<br class=3D"">________________________________<br =
class=3D"">From: Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt; on =
behalf of Darrell Walker &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">Sent: =
Wednesday, September 4, 2019 7:27:31 PM<br class=3D"">To: Triumphs =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 =
question<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:25 =
PM, Darrell Walker &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">By the way, the regulation was enacted on =
September 1, 1979, and eliminated on October 22, 1981. &nbsp;I believe =
any US market 81 cars were produced that late.<br =
class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">I meant to say ?I doubt any US =
market 81 cars were produced that late?.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">** =
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-0700<br class=3D"">From: Darrell Walker &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">To: Stan Foster &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">Cc: =
Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">Subject: Re: [TR] =
81 TR7 question<br class=3D"">Message-ID: =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">The display was limited. &nbsp;Meaning 85 was =
the highest number allowed to display. &nbsp;The regulation also =
required that 55 be called out in some fashion. &nbsp;Note that some =
makers put tick marks beyond 85, just without any numbers.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Sep 4, =
2019, at 4:41 PM, Stan Foster &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">What method was used to limit the TR7 speed to =
85mph ?<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Stan<br class=3D"">From: Triumphs =
&lt;[email-masked] =
&lt;mailto:[email-masked]&gt;&gt; on behalf of Darrell =
Walker &lt;[email-masked] &lt;mailto:[email-masked]&gt;&gt;<br =
class=3D"">Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 7:27:31 PM<br class=3D"">To:=
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&lt;mailto:[email-masked]&gt;&gt;<br class=3D"">Subject: Re: =
[TR] 81 TR7 question<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:25 =
PM, Darrell Walker &lt;[email-masked] =
&lt;mailto:[email-masked]&gt;&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">By the way, the regulation was enacted on =
September 1, 1979, and eliminated on October 22, 1981. &nbsp;I believe =
any US market 81 cars were produced that late.<br =
class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">I meant to say ?I doubt any US =
market 81 cars were produced that late?.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">** =
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+0000<br class=3D"">From: Stan Foster &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">To: Darrell Walker &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">Cc: Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question<br class=3D"">Message-ID:<br =
class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
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text/plain; charset=3D"windows-1252"<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Aha!. =
I recall with my old Morris 1000 the speedo topped out at 80mph but =
there was no stop for the speedo needle so the old joke was doing "half =
a tank" downhill as the fuel gauge was inset at the bottom of the speedo =
gauge. Half a tank would be around 100mph.<br =
class=3D"">________________________________<br class=3D"">From: Darrell =
Walker &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">Sent: Wednesday, =
September 4, 2019 7:46:11 PM<br class=3D"">To: Stan Foster =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">Cc: Triumphs =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 =
question<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">The display was =
limited. &nbsp;Meaning 85 was the highest number allowed to display. =
&nbsp;The regulation also required that 55 be called out in some =
fashion. &nbsp;Note that some makers put tick marks beyond 85, just =
without any numbers.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">On Sep 4, 2019, at =
4:41 PM, Stan Foster =
&lt;[email-masked]&lt;mailto:[email-masked]&gt;&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">What method was used to limit the TR7 speed to =
85mph ?<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Stan<br =
class=3D"">________________________________<br class=3D"">From: Triumphs =
&lt;[email-masked]&lt;mailto:[email-masked].=
net&gt;&gt; on behalf of Darrell Walker =
&lt;[email-masked]&lt;mailto:[email-masked]&gt;&gt;<br =
class=3D"">Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 7:27:31 PM<br class=3D"">To:=
 Triumphs =
&lt;[email-masked]&lt;mailto:[email-masked]&gt;&gt;<br =
class=3D"">Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D"">On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Darrell Walker =
&lt;[email-masked]&lt;mailto:[email-masked]&gt;&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">By the way, the regulation was =
enacted on September 1, 1979, and eliminated on October 22, 1981. =
&nbsp;I believe any US market 81 cars were produced that late.<br =
class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">I meant to say ?I doubt any US =
market 81 cars were produced that late?.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">** =
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-0400<br class=3D"">From: "Alex &amp; Janet Thomson" =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">To: "'Stan Foster'" =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;, "'Darrell Walker'"<br class=3D""><span =
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&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 =
question<br class=3D"">Message-ID: =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">The 4 cylinder engine!<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Alex Thomson<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">71 GT6<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">73 TR6<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">From: Triumphs =
[mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Stan<br =
class=3D"">Foster<br class=3D"">Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2019 7:42 =
PM<br class=3D"">To: Darrell Walker; Triumphs<br class=3D"">Subject: Re: =
[TR] 81 TR7 question<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">What method was used to limit the TR7 speed to 85mph ?<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Stan<br class=3D""><br class=3D""> &nbsp;_____ =
&nbsp;<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">From: Triumphs =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of Darrell Walker<br =
class=3D"">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">Sent: Wednesday, =
September 4, 2019 7:27:31 PM<br class=3D"">To: Triumphs =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 =
question <br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Sep 4, =
2019, at 4:25 PM, Darrell Walker &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">By the way, the regulation was =
enacted on September 1, 1979, and<br class=3D""></blockquote>eliminated =
on October 22, 1981. &nbsp;I believe any US market 81 cars were<br =
class=3D"">produced that late.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I meant to =
say "I doubt any US market 81 cars were produced that late".<br =
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-0400<br class=3D"">From: Jim Henningsen &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">To: Stan Foster &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">Cc: =
Darrell Walker &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, Triumphs<br class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span>&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">Subject: Re: [TR] =
81 TR7 question<br class=3D"">Message-ID: =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Thanks all for the feedback. &nbsp;I was pretty sure 85 was =
the max speedo limit on those. &nbsp;The seller of an 81 tr7 is claiming =
6000 orig miles and it looks like it judging by the one year only velour =
but the speedo is a 140 so I question the validity despite the =
condition. <br class=3D"">Jim<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Sent from my =
iPad<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On =
Sep 4, 2019, at 7:56 PM, Stan Foster &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Aha!. I recall with my old Morris 1000 the =
speedo topped out at 80mph but there was no stop for the speedo needle =
so the old joke was doing "half a tank" downhill as the fuel gauge was =
inset at the bottom of the speedo gauge. Half a tank would be around =
100mph.<br class=3D"">From: Darrell Walker =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">Sent: Wednesday, September 4, =
2019 7:46:11 PM<br class=3D"">To: Stan Foster &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">Cc: Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">The display was limited. &nbsp;Meaning 85 was =
the highest number allowed to display. &nbsp;The regulation also =
required that 55 be called out in some fashion. &nbsp;Note that some =
makers put tick marks beyond 85, just without any numbers.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Sep 4, =
2019, at 4:41 PM, Stan Foster &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">What method was used to limit the TR7 speed to =
85mph ?<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Stan<br class=3D"">From: Triumphs =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of Darrell Walker =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">Sent: Wednesday, September 4, =
2019 7:27:31 PM<br class=3D"">To: Triumphs =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 =
question<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:25 =
PM, Darrell Walker &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">By the way, the regulation was enacted on =
September 1, 1979, and eliminated on October 22, 1981. &nbsp;I believe =
any US market 81 cars were produced that late.<br =
class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">I meant to say ?I doubt any US =
market 81 cars were produced that late?.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">** =
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class=3D"">Message: 10<br class=3D"">Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 21:19:18 =
-0400<br class=3D"">From: alan salvatore &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">To: Jim Henningsen &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">Cc: =
Stan Foster &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, Triumphs =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 =
question<br class=3D"">Message-ID:<br class=3D""><span =
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</span>&lt;[email-masked].=
com&gt;<br class=3D"">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">I used to have an 81 TR8 with 85 mph speedo, =
&nbsp;I changed it out with a 140<br class=3D"">unit.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 9:02 PM Jim Henningsen =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D"">Thanks all for the feedback. &nbsp;I was pretty =
sure 85 was the max speedo<br class=3D"">limit on those. &nbsp;The =
seller of an 81 tr7 is claiming 6000 orig miles and it<br class=3D"">looks=
 like it judging by the one year only velour but the speedo is a 140<br =
class=3D"">so I question the validity despite the condition.<br =
class=3D"">Jim<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Sent from my iPad<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">On Sep 4, 2019, at 7:56 PM, Stan Foster =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Aha!. I =
recall with my old Morris 1000 the speedo topped out at 80mph but<br =
class=3D"">there was no stop for the speedo needle so the old joke was =
doing "half a<br class=3D"">tank" downhill as the fuel gauge was inset =
at the bottom of the speedo<br class=3D"">gauge. Half a tank would be =
around 100mph.<br class=3D"">------------------------------<br =
class=3D"">*From:* Darrell Walker &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">*Sent:* Wednesday, September 4, 2019 7:46:11 PM<br =
class=3D"">*To:* Stan Foster &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">*Cc:* =
Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">*Subject:* Re: =
[TR] 81 TR7 question<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">The =
display was limited. &nbsp;Meaning 85 was the highest number allowed =
to<br class=3D"">display. &nbsp;The regulation also required that 55 be =
called out in some<br class=3D"">fashion. &nbsp;Note that some makers =
put tick marks beyond 85, just without any<br class=3D"">numbers.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Stan Foster =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">What method =
was used to limit the TR7 speed to 85mph ?<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Stan<br class=3D"">------------------------------<br =
class=3D"">*From:* Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt; on =
behalf of Darrell<br class=3D"">Walker &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">*Sent:* Wednesday, September 4, 2019 7:27:31 PM<br =
class=3D"">*To:* Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">*Subject:* Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D"">On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Darrell Walker =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">By the way, the regulation was enacted on September 1, 1979, =
and<br class=3D""></blockquote>eliminated on October 22, 1981. &nbsp;I =
believe any US market 81 cars were<br class=3D"">produced that late.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">I meant to say ?I doubt any US market 81 cars =
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class=3D"">To: DAVID MASSEY &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">Cc: =
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Re: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs<br class=3D"">Message-ID: =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">I had the same experience with World Wide Auto Parts as Dave. =
A quality rebuild that has preformed for years.<br class=3D"">Best.<br =
class=3D"">Bob<br class=3D"">?72 TR6<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Sep 2, 2019, at 6:26 =
AM, DAVID MASSEY &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">I agree with Mark and Jerry. &nbsp;Since you have shocks on =
order put those in first and then make a determination as to whether you =
need new springs or not.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">BTW, I sent off a =
set of shocks to Apple for the "Heavy Duty" rebuild and was quite =
disappointed in the result. &nbsp;The damping was inadequate. &nbsp;This =
was many years ago and they may have sorted this out since then. &nbsp;I =
have more recently (like last year) had a pair (may have been the same =
pair) reworked by World Wide Auto Parts in Madison =
(http://www.nosimport.com/) with much better results. &nbsp;Peter up =
there knows Triumphs.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Dave <br class=3D""><br=
 class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">-----Original Message-----<br =
class=3D"">From: G.D. Huggins &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">To: Triumph Mailing List &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">Sent: Sun, Sep 1, 2019 9:45 pm<br class=3D"">Subject: [TR] =
TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">All,<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">After almost eight years of driving bliss, =
with just under 18K miles, it's time to replace what I suspect are the =
original road springs.<br class=3D"">The car has gotten way too bouncy, =
especially in the rear. &nbsp;Take a curve on a rough road, and it rear =
steers something awful. losing its contact with the road, as if the =
spring is not forcing the wheel back down quickly enough.<br class=3D"">As=
 far as shocks go, I?ve got Spax adjustable up front, and just ordered =
some heavy duty Armstrongs from Apple Hydraulics for the rear.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">I?ve gotten into some research, and everything =
seems to be pointing toward three grades of stiffness; original, uprated =
and competition.<br class=3D"">I am leaning toward the ?uprated? variety =
to stiffen the ride, but I want to keep stock height to not effect wheel =
camber.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Any experienced-based =
suggestions?<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Thanks in advance.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Cheers,<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Guy D. Huggins<br class=3D"">1965 Triumph TR4A<br =
class=3D"">CTC 63569LO<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Online project diary =
at http://www.genfiniti.com/triumph &lt;&gt;<br class=3D""><br =
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&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">To: DAVID MASSEY =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;, [email-masked],<br class=3D""><span =
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&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Hi, Dave. &nbsp;Just curious. &nbsp;What was the fluid you =
ran in the rebuilt shocks that didn't dampen as well as you'd like? =
&nbsp;And what do you recommend? &nbsp;(I've been using Harley fork =
fluid, seems to work fine enough but maybe could be better.)<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On =
September 2, 2019 at 6:26 AM DAVID MASSEY &lt;[email-masked]&gt; =
wrote:<br class=3D""><br class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I agree with Mark =
and Jerry. &nbsp;Since you have shocks on order put those in first and =
then make a determination as to whether you need new springs or not.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;BTW, I sent off a set of =
shocks to Apple for the "Heavy Duty" rebuild and was quite disappointed =
in the result. &nbsp;The damping was inadequate. &nbsp;This was many =
years ago and they may have sorted this out since then. &nbsp;I have =
more recently (like last year) had a pair (may have been the same pair) =
reworked by World Wide Auto Parts in Madison (http://www.nosimport.com/) =
with much better results. &nbsp;Peter up there knows Triumphs.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Dave<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-----Original Message-----<br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;From: G.D. Huggins &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;To: Triumph Mailing List =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Sent: =
Sun, Sep 1, 2019 9:45 pm<br class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Subject: [TR] =
TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs<br class=3D""><br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;All,<br class=3D""><br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;After almost eight years of driving bliss, with just =
under 18K miles, it's time to replace what I suspect are the original =
road springs.<br class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The car has gotten way =
too bouncy, especially in the rear. &nbsp;Take a curve on a rough road, =
and it rear steers something awful. losing its contact with the road, as =
if the spring is not forcing the wheel back down quickly enough.<br =
class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;As far as shocks go, I?ve got Spax =
adjustable up front, and just ordered some heavy duty Armstrongs from =
Apple Hydraulics for the rear.<br class=3D""><br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I?ve gotten into some research, and everything seems =
to be pointing toward three grades of stiffness; original, uprated and =
competition.<br class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I am leaning toward the =
?uprated? variety to stiffen the ride, but I want to keep stock height =
to not effect wheel camber.<br class=3D""><br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Any experienced-based suggestions?<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Thanks in advance.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Cheers,<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Guy D. Huggins<br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1965 Triumph TR4A<br class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;CTC =
63569LO<br class=3D""><br class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Online project =
diary at http://www.genfiniti.com/triumph<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br=
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&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">To: [email-masked], =
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class=3D""> I did not try changing the fluid that was put in by the =
rebuilder.? It was probably standard fork oil.? A heavier oil may have =
made the difference but I never got a roundtuit.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Dave <br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">-----Original Message-----<br class=3D"">From: TERRY SMITH =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">To: DAVID MASSEY =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;; gdhuggins &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; =
triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">Sent: Thu, Sep 5, =
2019 9:32 am<br class=3D"">Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road =
Springs<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Hi, Dave.? Just curious.? What was =
the fluid you ran in the rebuilt shocks that didn't dampen as well as =
you'd like?? And what do you recommend?? (I've been using Harley fork =
fluid, seems to work fine enough but maybe could be better.)<br =
class=3D"">On September 2, 2019 at 6:26 AM DAVID MASSEY =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote: <br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I agree =
with Mark and Jerry.? Since you have shocks on order put those in first =
and then make a determination as to whether you need new springs or =
not.<br class=3D""> BTW, I sent off a set of shocks to Apple for the =
"Heavy Duty" rebuild and was quite disappointed in the result.? The =
damping was inadequate.? This was many years ago and they may have =
sorted this out since then.? I have more recently (like last year) had a =
pair (may have been the same pair) reworked by World Wide Auto Parts in =
Madison (http://www.nosimport.com/) with much better results.? Peter up =
there knows Triumphs. <br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Dave &nbsp;<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">-----Original =
Message----- <br class=3D""> From: G.D. Huggins =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br class=3D""> To: Triumph Mailing List =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br class=3D""> Sent: Sun, Sep 1, 2019 =
9:45 pm <br class=3D""> Subject: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs =
<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">All, <br class=3D""><br class=3D"">After =
almost eight years of driving bliss, with just under 18K miles, it's =
time to replace what I suspect are the original road springs. <br =
class=3D"">The car has gotten way too bouncy, especially in the rear.? =
Take a curve on a rough road, and it rear steers something awful. losing =
its contact with the road, as if the spring is not forcing the wheel =
back down quickly enough. <br class=3D"">As far as shocks go, I?ve got =
Spax adjustable up front, and just ordered some heavy duty Armstrongs =
from Apple Hydraulics for the rear. <br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I?ve =
gotten into some research, and everything seems to be pointing toward =
three grades of stiffness; original, uprated and competition. <br =
class=3D"">I am leaning toward the ?uprated? variety to stiffen the =
ride, but I want to keep stock height to not effect wheel camber. <br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Any experienced-based suggestions? <br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Thanks in advance. <br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Cheers, <br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Guy D. =
Huggins <br class=3D"">1965 Triumph TR4A <br class=3D"">CTC 63569LO <br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Online project diary at =
http://www.genfiniti.com/triumph <br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
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-0500<br class=3D"">From: Randall &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">To: [email-masked]<br class=3D"">Subject: Re: [TR] =
81 TR7 question<br class=3D"">Message-ID: =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Could it have been originally delivered n another country? =
Maybe Canada, or a "self-import" from the UK.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">I found a Coventry-made tractor on Craigslist, some little =
town in Indiana, even though North American versions were supposed to be =
built in Dearborn. No idea how it got there, but seems to be the real =
deal.<br class=3D"">-- Randall<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">On 4 =
September 2019 19:38:23 GMT-05:00, Jim Henningsen =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D"">Thanks all for the feedback. &nbsp;I was pretty sure 85 was =
the max speedo<br class=3D"">limit on those. &nbsp;The seller of an 81 =
tr7 is claiming 6000 orig miles<br class=3D"">and it looks like it =
judging by the one year only velour but the speedo<br class=3D"">is a =
140 so I question the validity despite the condition. <br =
class=3D"">Jim<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Sent from my iPad<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Sep 4, =
2019, at 7:56 PM, Stan Foster &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Aha!. I recall with my old Morris 1000 the =
speedo topped out at 80mph<br class=3D""></blockquote>but there was no =
stop for the speedo needle so the old joke was doing<br class=3D"">"half =
a tank" downhill as the fuel gauge was inset at the bottom of the<br =
class=3D"">speedo gauge. Half a tank would be around 100mph.<br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">From: Darrell Walker =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">Sent: Wednesday, September 4, =
2019 7:46:11 PM<br class=3D"">To: Stan Foster &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">Cc: Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 question<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">The display was limited. &nbsp;Meaning 85 was =
the highest number allowed<br class=3D""></blockquote>to display. =
&nbsp;The regulation also required that 55 be called out in some<br =
class=3D"">fashion. &nbsp;Note that some makers put tick marks beyond =
85, just without<br class=3D"">any numbers.<br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D"">On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Stan Foster =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">What method =
was used to limit the TR7 speed to 85mph ?<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Stan<br class=3D"">From: Triumphs =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of<br =
class=3D""></blockquote></blockquote>Darrell Walker =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">Sent: Wednesday, =
September 4, 2019 7:27:31 PM<br class=3D"">To: Triumphs =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">Subject: Re: [TR] 81 TR7 =
question<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:25 =
PM, Darrell Walker &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>wrote:<br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">By the way, the regulation was enacted on September 1, 1979, =
and<br class=3D""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>eliminated on =
October 22, 1981. &nbsp;I believe any US market 81 cars were<br =
class=3D"">produced that late.<br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><br class=3D"">I meant =
to say ?I doubt any US market 81 cars were produced that<br =
class=3D""></blockquote></blockquote>late?.<br class=3D""><blockquote =
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&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Type of shock oil will definitely make a difference. &nbsp;I =
believe (but could be wrong) that standard shock oil is 20w? &nbsp;years =
ago I had a car where the shocks were shot. &nbsp;I put 90 wt gear oil =
in just for grins. &nbsp;Suspension was rock hard until it leaked out =
again.<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">From: =
Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt; On Behalf Of DAVID =
MASSEY<br class=3D"">Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 9:58 AM<br =
class=3D"">To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]; =
[email-masked]<br class=3D"">Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - Need =
Advice on Road Springs<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">I did not try changing the fluid that was put in by the =
rebuilder. &nbsp;It was probably standard fork oil. &nbsp;A heavier oil =
may have made the difference but I never got a roundtuit.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Dave <br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br=
 class=3D"">-----Original Message-----<br class=3D"">From: TERRY SMITH =
&lt;[email-masked] &lt;mailto:[email-masked]&gt; &gt;<br =
class=3D"">To: DAVID MASSEY &lt;[email-masked] =
&lt;mailto:[email-masked]&gt; &gt;; gdhuggins =
&lt;[email-masked] &lt;mailto:[email-masked]&gt; &gt;; =
triumphs &lt;[email-masked] =
&lt;mailto:[email-masked]&gt; &gt;<br class=3D"">Sent: Thu, Sep =
5, 2019 9:32 am<br class=3D"">Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on =
Road Springs<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Hi, Dave. &nbsp;Just curious. =
&nbsp;What was the fluid you ran in the rebuilt shocks that didn't =
dampen as well as you'd like? &nbsp;And what do you recommend? =
&nbsp;(I've been using Harley fork fluid, seems to work fine enough but =
maybe could be better.)<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">On September 2, =
2019 at 6:26 AM DAVID MASSEY &lt;[email-masked] =
&lt;mailto:[email-masked]&gt; &gt; wrote: <br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">I agree with Mark and Jerry. &nbsp;Since you have shocks on =
order put those in first and then make a determination as to whether you =
need new springs or not.<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">BTW, I sent off a set of shocks to Apple for the "Heavy Duty" =
rebuild and was quite disappointed in the result. &nbsp;The damping was =
inadequate. &nbsp;This was many years ago and they may have sorted this =
out since then. &nbsp;I have more recently (like last year) had a pair =
(may have been the same pair) reworked by World Wide Auto Parts in =
Madison (http://www.nosimport.com/) with much better results. =
&nbsp;Peter up there knows Triumphs. <br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Dave <br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
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Message----- <br class=3D"">From: G.D. Huggins =
&lt;[email-masked] &lt;mailto:[email-masked]&gt; &gt; =
<br class=3D"">To: Triumph Mailing List &lt;[email-masked] =
&lt;mailto:[email-masked]&gt; &gt; <br class=3D"">Sent: Sun, =
Sep 1, 2019 9:45 pm <br class=3D"">Subject: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on =
Road Springs <br class=3D""><br class=3D"">All, <br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">After almost eight years of =
driving bliss, with just under 18K miles, it's time to replace what I =
suspect are the original road springs. <br class=3D""><br class=3D"">The =
car has gotten way too bouncy, especially in the rear. &nbsp;Take a =
curve on a rough road, and it rear steers something awful. losing its =
contact with the road, as if the spring is not forcing the wheel back =
down quickly enough. <br class=3D""><br class=3D"">As far as shocks go, =
I?ve got Spax adjustable up front, and just ordered some heavy duty =
Armstrongs from Apple Hydraulics for the rear. <br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I?ve gotten into some research, =
and everything seems to be pointing toward three grades of stiffness; =
original, uprated and competition. <br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I am =
leaning toward the ?uprated? variety to stiffen the ride, but I want to =
keep stock height to not effect wheel camber. <br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Any experienced-based =
suggestions? <br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Thanks in advance. <br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Cheers, <br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Guy D. Huggins =
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