Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph TR3 for Sale (not mine)

From: TERRY SMITH <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2019 17:59:07 -0400 (EDT)

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Picky Picky Picky!!!!!

https://plattsburgh.craigslist.org/pts/d/queensbury-1959-tr3-wide-mouth-roadster/6962060119.html

> On August 26, 2019 at 5:46 PM David Friedlander <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
>     And the link for it?
> 
>     On Mon, Aug 26, 2019, 5:47 PM TERRY SMITH < [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked] > wrote:
> 
>         > > 
> >         If anybody's interested, it's listed, at least here, under Auto Parts, not Cars and Trucks.
> > 
> > 
> >         No financial interest and all that.
> > 
> > 
> >         Terry Smith, '59 TR3A  TS 59667
> > 
> >         New Hampshire
> > 
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"cite">On August 26, 2019 at 5:46 PM David Friedlander &#60;forzion7@gmail.=
com&#62; wrote: <br> <br><div dir=3D"auto">And the link for it?</div><br><d=
iv class=3D"ox-1ac31cd1b7-gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"ox-1ac31cd=
1b7-gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 26, 2019, 5:47 PM TERRY SMITH &#60; <a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&#62; wrote: <br></div><=
blockquote><u></u><div><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,=
arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;">If anybody&#39;s interested, it&#39;s li=
sted, at least here, under Auto Parts, not Cars and Trucks.</p><p style=3D"=
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<br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-seri=
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From: "Andrew Uprichard" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2019 18:19:45 -0400

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Wow, $9700 for a car which =E2=80=9Cyard drives=E2=80=9D and =
=E2=80=9Cbody needs restored=E2=80=9D ??  Seems high to me.

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My experience is that, with the exception of the car above, our TRs have =
not been holding good prices recently.  Maybe all the people who are =
familiar with them have been dying off and the next generation is not =
interested ? =20

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Andrew Uprichard

Jackson, Michigan

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From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
TERRY SMITH
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2019 5:59 PM
To: David Friedlander; triumphs
Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph TR3 for Sale (not mine)

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Picky Picky Picky!!!!!

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https://plattsburgh.craigslist.org/pts/d/queensbury-1959-tr3-wide-mouth-r=
oadster/6962060119.html

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On August 26, 2019 at 5:46 PM David Friedlander <[email-masked]> =
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And the link for it?

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On Mon, Aug 26, 2019, 5:47 PM TERRY SMITH < [email-masked]> wrote:=20

If anybody's interested, it's listed, at least here, under Auto Parts, =
not Cars and Trucks.

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Wow, $9700 for a car which =
=E2=80=9Cyard drives=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cbody needs restored=E2=80=9D =
??=C2=A0 Seems high to me.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>My =
experience is that, with the exception of the car above, our TRs have =
not been holding good prices recently.=C2=A0 Maybe all the people who =
are familiar with them have been dying off and the next generation is =
not interested ?=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Andrew =
Uprichard<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Jackson, =
Michigan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div=
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</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>TERRY SMITH<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 26, 2019 5:59 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> David Friedlander; triumphs<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] =
Triumph TR3 for Sale (not mine)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>Picky Picky =
Picky!!!!!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'><a =
href=3D"https://plattsburgh.craigslist.org/pts/d/queensbury-1959-tr3-wide=
-mouth-roadster/6962060119.html">https://plattsburgh.craigslist.org/pts/d=
/queensbury-1959-tr3-wide-mouth-roadster/6962060119.html</a><o:p></o:p></=
span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
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style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On August 26, 2019 at 5:46 PM David =
Friedlander &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>And the link for it?<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Mon, Aug 26, 2019, 5:47 PM TERRY SMITH &lt; <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote: =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>If =
anybody's interested, it's listed, at least here, under Auto Parts, not =
Cars and Trucks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>No =
financial interest and all that.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>Terry =
Smith, '59 TR3A&nbsp; TS 59667<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>New =
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Adjustable steering and TR4-style valve cover?  I'd have guessed that was a
1962 TR3B, not a 1959 TR3A.

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Adjustable steering and TR4-style valve cover?=C2=A0 I&#39=
;d have guessed that was a 1962 TR3B, not a 1959 TR3A.</div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 26, 2019=
 at 4:59 PM TERRY SMITH &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">terryrs@=
comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex"><u></u>

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<div><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;colo=
r:rgb(51,51,51)">Picky Picky Picky!!!!!</p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-=
family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></p><p style=3D"=
font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">=
<br></p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;c=
olor:rgb(51,51,51)"><a href=3D"https://plattsburgh.craigslist.org/pts/d/que=
ensbury-1959-tr3-wide-mouth-roadster/6962060119.html" target=3D"_blank">htt=
ps://plattsburgh.craigslist.org/pts/d/queensbury-1959-tr3-wide-mouth-roadst=
er/6962060119.html</a></p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,=
arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;fo=
nt-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></p><p style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,5=
1)"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-ser=
if;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helv=
etica,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></p><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e">On August 26, 2019 at 5:46 PM David Friedlander &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fo=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote: <br> =
<br><div dir=3D"auto">And the link for it?</div><br><div class=3D"gmail-m_-=
7174503399634758377ox-1ac31cd1b7-gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gma=
il-m_-7174503399634758377ox-1ac31cd1b7-gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 26, 2019, 5:=
47 PM TERRY SMITH &lt; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bl=
ank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote: <br></div><blockquote><u></u><div><=
p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(=
51,51,51)">If anybody&#39;s interested, it&#39;s listed, at least here, und=
er Auto Parts, not Cars and Trucks.</p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-fami=
ly:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></p><p style=3D"font=
-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">No f=
inancial interest and all that.</p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:h=
elvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></p><p style=3D"font-siz=
e:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Terry Sm=
ith, &#39;59 TR3A=C2=A0 TS 59667</p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:=
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From: Stan Foster <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2019 22:35:57 +0000

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Its an early car, still has the removable panel for RHD conversion.

Stan
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From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> on behalf of Don Hiscock <=
[email-masked]>
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2019 6:20:10 PM
To: TERRY SMITH <[email-masked]>
Cc: triumphs <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph TR3 for Sale (not mine)

Adjustable steering and TR4-style valve cover?  I'd have guessed that was a=
 1962 TR3B, not a 1959 TR3A.

[email-masked]>> wrote:

Picky Picky Picky!!!!!

https://plattsburgh.craigslist.org/pts/d/queensbury-1959-tr3-wide-mouth-roa=
dster/6962060119.html

[email-masked]>> wrote:

And the link for it?

[email-masked]>> wrote:

If anybody's interested, it's listed, at least here, under Auto Parts, not =
Cars and Trucks.

New Hampshire

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Its an early car, still has the removable panel for RHD conversion.<br>
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Stan</div>
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yle=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Triumphs &lt;triumphs=
[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of Don Hiscock &lt;don.hiscock@gmail.=
com&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 26, 2019 6:20:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> TERRY SMITH &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Triumph TR3 for Sale (not mine)</font>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Adjustable steering and TR4-style valve cover?&nbsp; I'd h=
ave guessed that was a 1962 TR3B, not a 1959 TR3A.</div>
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Picky Picky Picky!!!!!</p>
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(51,51,51)">
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e-mouth-roadster/6962060119.html" target=3D"_blank">https://plattsburgh.cra=
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<div dir=3D"auto">And the link for it?</div>
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ttr">On Mon, Aug 26, 2019, 5:47 PM TERRY SMITH &lt;
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No financial interest and all that.</p>
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Terry Smith, '59 TR3A&nbsp; TS 59667</p>
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From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2019 17:39:01 -0500

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You're right, Stan!  I'll bet that's a later engine -- it's not exactly the
right one for a TCF-series TR3B with that brass vent plug.

On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 5:36 PM Stan Foster <[email-masked]> wrote:

> ------------------------------
> *From:* Triumphs <[email-masked]> on behalf of Don
> Hiscock <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Monday, August 26, 2019 6:20:10 PM
> *To:* TERRY SMITH <[email-masked]>
> *Cc:* triumphs <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Triumph TR3 for Sale (not mine)
>
> Adjustable steering and TR4-style valve cover?  I'd have guessed that was
> a 1962 TR3B, not a 1959 TR3A.
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ter engine -- it&#39;s not exactly the right one for a TCF-series TR3B with=
 that brass vent plug.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
 class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 5:36 PM Stan Foster &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:=
1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">

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Its an early car, still has the removable panel for RHD conversion.<br>
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:sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:black">
Stan</div>
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t=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of Don Hisco=
ck &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">don.hisco=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 26, 2019 6:20:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> TERRY SMITH &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D=
"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Adjustable steering and TR4-style valve cover?=C2=A0 I&#39=
;d have guessed that was a 1962 TR3B, not a 1959 TR3A.</div>
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(51,51,51)">
Picky Picky Picky!!!!!</p>
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(51,51,51)">
<br>
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<a href=3D"https://plattsburgh.craigslist.org/pts/d/queensbury-1959-tr3-wid=
e-mouth-roadster/6962060119.html" target=3D"_blank">https://plattsburgh.cra=
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<div class=3D"gmail-m_6754794973296895918gmail-m_-7174503399634758377ox-1ac=
31cd1b7-gmail_quote">
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758377ox-1ac31cd1b7-gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 26, 2019, 5:47 PM TERRY SMITH &=
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If anybody&#39;s interested, it&#39;s listed, at least here, under Auto Par=
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No financial interest and all that.</p>
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2019 16:54:24 -0700 (PDT)

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It looks to be as described a '59 and a pre-60,000 vin car.  No raised hinge stamping on the cowl or hood.  I have 3 '59s. Two have the right-hand drive cover plates and they have 46,000 vins and the other is a 51,000 vin without the plate.  

Dave H.

> On August 26, 2019 at 3:35 PM Stan Foster <[email-masked]> wrote:
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>     From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> on behalf of Don Hiscock <[email-masked]>
>     Adjustable steering and TR4-style valve cover?  I'd have guessed that was a 1962 TR3B, not a 1959 TR3A.
> 
>     On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:59 PM TERRY SMITH < [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked] > wrote:
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ck;">Its an early car, still has the removable panel for RHD conversion. <b=
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g>Cc:</strong> triumphs &#60;[email-masked]&#62;<br> <strong>Subje=
ct:</strong> Re: [TR] Triumph TR3 for Sale (not mine)</span><div>&#160;</di=
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serif; color: #333333;"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: h=
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My '54 TR2 long door has an adjustable steering column as original, a factor=
y option.  The double "strings" with the gap in between on the wheel is the t=
ell tale sign of the adjustable column.  MG and Healey also, as far as I kno=
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>My '54 TR2 long door has an adjustable=
 steering column as original, a factory option. &nbsp;The double "strings" w=
ith the gap in between on the wheel is the tell tale sign of the adjustable c=
olumn. &nbsp;MG and Healey also, as far as I know.</div><div id=3D"AppleMail=
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iv><div dir=3D"ltr">Adjustable steering and TR4-style valve cover?&nbsp; I'd=
 have guessed that was a 1962 TR3B, not a 1959 TR3A.</div><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4=
:59 PM TERRY SMITH &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">terryrs@comcas=
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</p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:=
rgb(51,51,51)"><a href=3D"https://plattsburgh.craigslist.org/pts/d/queensbur=
y-1959-tr3-wide-mouth-roadster/6962060119.html" target=3D"_blank">https://pl=
attsburgh.craigslist.org/pts/d/queensbury-1959-tr3-wide-mouth-roadster/69620=
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 target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote: <br> <br><div dir=3D"au=
to">And the link for it?</div><br><div class=3D"gmail-m_-7174503399634758377=
ox-1ac31cd1b7-gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail-m_-71745033996347=
58377ox-1ac31cd1b7-gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 26, 2019, 5:47 PM TERRY SMITH &lt=
; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
et</a>&gt; wrote: <br></div><blockquote><u></u><div><p style=3D"font-size:12=
pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">If anybody's i=
nterested, it's listed, at least here, under Auto Parts, not Cars and Trucks=
.</p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,ari=
al,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">No financial interest and all that.</p><p=
 style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51=
,51,51)"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans=
-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Terry Smith, '59 TR3A&nbsp; TS 59667</p><p style=
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Andrew,

If you look at prices for things like model As and even MG T series, prices
have been stagnant the last 20-30 years or so, Big Healey's have leveled
off the last 5 or ten years, it happens.

When I look at most any pre-war car I find it interesting, but not anything
I would ever really want to own, I imagine a lot of younger folks, even car
people, feel the same way about "our" cars.  In fact I frequent some car
forums with a much younger demographic than here, pretty much anything
built when carburators were the norm is considered unsafe, finicky, and
slow by a pretty large portion of that group.

Nothing will make you feel old quite like somebody suggesting that
re-mapping a fuel injection system Isa piece of cake, while carbs are a
deep, dark mystery.

Greg Lemon
TR250

Andrew Uprichard wrote:

> Wow, $9700 for a car which =E2=80=9Cyard drives=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cbod=
y needs restored=E2=80=9D ??
> Seems high to me.
>
>
>
> My experience is that, with the exception of the car above, our TRs have
> not been holding good prices recently.  Maybe all the people who are
> familiar with them have been dying off and the next generation is not
> interested ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
oadster/6962060119.html
> If anybody's interested, it's listed, at least here, under Auto Parts, no=
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto"></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Andrew,=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">If you look=
 at prices for things like model As and even MG T series, prices have been =
stagnant the last 20-30 years or so, Big Healey&#39;s have leveled off the =
last 5 or ten years, it happens.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr"=
><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">When I look at most any pr=
e-war car I find it interesting, but not anything I would ever really want =
to own, I imagine a lot of younger folks, even car people, feel the same wa=
y about &quot;our&quot; cars.=C2=A0 In fact I frequent some car forums with=
 a much younger demographic than here, pretty much anything built when carb=
urators were the norm is considered unsafe, finicky, and slow by a pretty l=
arge portion of that group.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr"><br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Nothing will make you feel old =
quite like somebody suggesting that re-mapping a fuel injection system Isa =
piece of cake, while carbs are a deep, dark mystery.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Greg L=
emon</div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">TR250</div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
 class=3D"gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr"><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Andrew Uprichard wrote:</div><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #=
ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purp=
le"><div class=3D"m_7911692172130028381m_443896979192899332WordSection1"><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">Wow, $9=
700 for a car which =E2=80=9Cyard drives=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cbody needs r=
estored=E2=80=9D ??=C2=A0 Seems high to me.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt=
;color:#1f497d">My experience is that, with the exception of the car above,=
 our TRs have not been holding good prices recently.=C2=A0 Maybe all the pe=
ople who are familiar with them have been dying off and the next generation=
 is not interested ?=C2=A0 <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0</span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #b5=
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r:#333333"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-family:&qu=
ot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#333333"><a href=3D"https:/=
/plattsburgh.craigslist.org/pts/d/queensbury-1959-tr3-wide-mouth-roadster/6=
962060119.html" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://pla=
ttsburgh.craigslist.org/pts/d/queensbury-1959-tr3-wide-mouth-roadster/69620=
60119.html</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;=
Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#333333"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
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rif&quot;;color:#333333"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"f=
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ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#333333"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p=
><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:#333333"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><blockquote style=3D"margin-top=
:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:1=
2.0pt">On August 26, 2019 at 5:46 PM David Friedlander &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">forzi=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote: <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
And the link for it?<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, Aug 26, 2019, 5:4=
7 PM TERRY SMITH &lt; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"norefer=
rer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote: <u></u=
><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt=
"><div><p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;;color:#333333">If anybody&#39;s interested, it&#39;s listed, at leas=
t here, under Auto Parts, not Cars and Trucks.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><=
span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;colo=
r:#333333"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-family:&qu=
ot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#333333">No financial inter=
est and all that.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-family:&qu=
ot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#333333"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></=
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From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2019 20:43:20 -0500

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Dave, that's interesting.  Although the adjustable steering column was an
option throughout production, I don't think I've known a TR2-3A with
original adjustable steering.  And I don't think I've ever seen a TR3B that
*didn't* have one fitted originally.  S-T musta had a LOT of those to get
rid of!

Those adjustable wheels deteriorate more severely than just about
anything.  It's rare to see one above "awful" condition!  Most of them look
like this or much worse:
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-zvWsQHg/0/1029cecd/X5/i-zvWsQHg-X5.jpg

Don
1962 TR3B TSF202L

On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 7:49 PM Dave <[email-masked]> wrote:

> My '54 TR2 long door has an adjustable steering column as original, a
> factory option.  The double "strings" with the gap in between on the wheel
> is the tell tale sign of the adjustable column.  MG and Healey also, as far
> as I know.
> Dave H.
>
> Sent from my iPad
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Dave, that&#39;s interesting.=C2=A0 Although the adju=
stable steering column was an option throughout production, I don&#39;t thi=
nk I&#39;ve known a TR2-3A with original adjustable steering.=C2=A0 And I d=
on&#39;t think I&#39;ve ever seen a TR3B that *didn&#39;t* have one fitted =
originally.=C2=A0 S-T musta had a LOT of those to get rid of!</div><div><br=
></div><div>Those adjustable wheels deteriorate more severely than just abo=
ut anything.=C2=A0 It&#39;s rare to see one above &quot;awful&quot; conditi=
on!=C2=A0 Most of them look like this or much worse:</div><div><a href=3D"h=
ttps://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-zvWsQHg/0/1029cecd/X5/i-zvWsQHg-X5.jpg">=
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-zvWsQHg/0/1029cecd/X5/i-zvWsQHg-X5.jpg<=
/a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Don</div><div>1962 TR3B TSF202L</div><div>=
<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gm=
ail_attr">On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 7:49 PM Dave &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dlhogy=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid r=
gb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>My &#39;54 TR2 lon=
g door has an adjustable steering column as original, a factory option.=C2=
=A0 The double &quot;strings&quot; with the gap in between on the wheel is =
the tell tale sign of the adjustable column.=C2=A0 MG and Healey also, as f=
ar as I know.</div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-2349810930412102570AppleMailSignatur=
e">Dave H.=C2=A0<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Aug 26, 2019, at=
 3:20 PM, Don Hiscock &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote t=
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From: DAVE HOGYE <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2019 19:38:38 -0700 (PDT)

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I have the Heritage Certificate for all my TRs and for the TR2 the adjustable column is listed. 

Personally, I find the adjustable steering wheel goes in the wrong direction.  I am of average height, 5'9".  I like a shorter distance to the peddles, meaning, I like the seat forward and a little straighter arm to the wheel.  The adjustable wheel actually lengthens the distance between the dash capping when shortened all the way.  When it's extended, arms are too bent and the wheel too close.  So, one would think if you are shorter, you would want the seat far forward and the steering wheel would also move in that direction.  If one is really tall, the seat goes back and the wheel forward for more arm length.  

On my TR3 race car, I made the non-adjustable column shorter so there is just enough comfortable clearance so my fingers don't touch the dash capping, but it's close.  I also modified the Kirkey Vintage racing seat to further recline it in order to gain arm length to the wheel.  To me, these cars are all screwed up in terms of ergonomics.  Just adding an option doesn't necessarily make it better, but it sure sounds like it must be a good thing.  It's adjustable!  Yay!

DH

> On August 26, 2019 at 6:43 PM Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
>     Dave, that's interesting.  Although the adjustable steering column was an option throughout production, I don't think I've known a TR2-3A with original adjustable steering.  And I don't think I've ever seen a TR3B that *didn't* have one fitted originally.  S-T musta had a LOT of those to get rid of!
> 
>     Those adjustable wheels deteriorate more severely than just about anything.  It's rare to see one above "awful" condition!  Most of them look like this or much worse:
>     On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 7:49 PM Dave < [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked] > wrote:
> 
>         > >         My '54 TR2 long door has an adjustable steering column as original, a factory option.  The double "strings" with the gap in between on the wheel is the tell tale sign of the adjustable column.  MG and Healey also, as far as I know.
> >         Dave H. 
> > 
> >         Sent from my iPad
> > 
> >         On Aug 26, 2019, at 3:20 PM, Don Hiscock < [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked] > wrote:
> > 
> > 
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</head><body><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sa=
ns-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">I have the Heritage Certificate for all =
my TRs and for the TR2 the adjustable column is listed.&#160;</p><p style=
=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(=
51, 51, 51);">Personally, I find the adjustable steering wheel goes in the =
wrong direction.&#160; I am of average height, 5&#39;9&#34;.&#160; I like a=
 shorter distance to the peddles, meaning, I like the seat forward and a li=
ttle straighter arm to the wheel.&#160; The adjustable wheel actually lengt=
hens the distance between the dash capping when shortened all the way.&#160=
; When it&#39;s extended, arms are too bent and the wheel too close.&#160; =
So, one would think if you are shorter, you would want the seat far forward=
 and the steering wheel would also move in that direction.&#160; If one is =
really tall, the seat goes back and the wheel forward for more arm length.&=
#160;&#160;</p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">On my TR3 race car, I made the non-adj=
ustable column shorter so there is just enough comfortable clearance so my =
fingers don&#39;t touch the dash capping, but it&#39;s close.&#160; I also =
modified the Kirkey Vintage racing seat to further recline it in order to g=
ain arm length to the wheel.&#160; To me, these cars are all screwed up in =
terms of ergonomics.&#160; Just adding an option doesn&#39;t necessarily ma=
ke it better, but it sure sounds like it must be a good thing.&#160; It&#39=
;s adjustable!&#160; Yay!</p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helv=
etica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">DH</p><p style=3D"font-s=
ize: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51=
);"><br></p><blockquote type=3D"cite">On August 26, 2019 at 6:43 PM Don His=
cock &#60;[email-masked]&#62; wrote: <br> <br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>=
Dave, that&#39;s interesting.&#160; Although the adjustable steering column=
 was an option throughout production, I don&#39;t think I&#39;ve known a TR=
2-3A with original adjustable steering.&#160; And I don&#39;t think I&#39;v=
e ever seen a TR3B that *didn&#39;t* have one fitted originally.&#160; S-T =
musta had a LOT of those to get rid of!</div><div><br></div><div>Those adju=
stable wheels deteriorate more severely than just about anything.&#160; It&=
#39;s rare to see one above &#34;awful&#34; condition!&#160; Most of them l=
ook like this or much worse:</div><div><a href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.co=
m/photos/i-zvWsQHg/0/1029cecd/X5/i-zvWsQHg-X5.jpg">https://photos.smugmug.c=
om/photos/i-zvWsQHg/0/1029cecd/X5/i-zvWsQHg-X5.jpg</a> <br></div><div><br><=
/div><div>Don</div><div>1962 TR3B TSF202L</div><div><br></div></div><br><di=
v class=3D"ox-6c37aaf6a5-gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"ox-6c37aaf6=
a5-gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 7:49 PM Dave &#60; <a href=3D"mailto=
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uote><div dir=3D"auto"><div>My &#39;54 TR2 long door has an adjustable stee=
ring column as original, a factory option.&#160; The double &#34;strings&#3=
4; with the gap in between on the wheel is the tell tale sign of the adjust=
able column.&#160; MG and Healey also, as far as I know.</div>Dave H.&#160;=
 <br> <br>Sent from my iPad<div><br>On Aug 26, 2019, at 3:20 PM, Don Hiscoc=
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From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 06:25:02 -0700

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When I go to All British Field Meets, with the exception of the Land 
Rover group, all I see are senior citizens with their British sports 
cars. I don't see younger generations filling in the ranks. For years 
now, prices have been falling on American 60s & 70s classics. I talked 
to a big Healey guy last weekend who said prices for them have been soft.

The classic Land Rover group has lots of enthusiasts in their 20s & 30s 
because they also get used for off road driving/camping/fishing/hunting 
and just about anything else. Whereas most British sports cars that are 
remotely competitive in field meets go to field meets, club runs, and 
not much else. Most people (not including me) have newer fuel injected 
climate controlled, airbag cars for everyday use while their British 
sports car sits in the garage waiting for a special reason to be driven. 
For most people, they are no longer everyday driver cars.

TeriAnn
1960 TR3A
1960 Land Rover
no other cars

On 8/26/19 5:59 PM, Greg Lemon wrote:
> If you look at prices for things like model As and even MG T series, 
> prices have been stagnant the last 20-30 years or so, Big Healey's 
> have leveled off the last 5 or ten years, it happens.
>
> When I look at most any pre-war car I find it interesting, but not 
> anything I would ever really want to own, I imagine a lot of younger 
> folks, even car people, feel the same way about "our" cars.Â  In fact 
> I frequent some car forums with a much younger demographic than here, 
> pretty much anything built when carburators were the norm is 
> considered unsafe, finicky, and slow by a pretty large portion of that 
> group.
>
> re-mapping a fuel injection system Isa piece of cake, while carbs are 
> a deep, dark mystery.
>
> Greg Lemon
> TR250

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">When I go to All British Field Meets,
      with the exception of the Land Rover group, all I see are senior
      citizens with their British sports cars. I don't see younger
      generations filling in the ranks. For years now, prices have been
      falling on American 60s &amp; 70s classics. I talked to a big
      Healey guy last weekend who said prices for them have been soft.</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">The classic Land Rover group has lots
      of enthusiasts in their 20s &amp; 30s because they also get used
      for off road driving/camping/fishing/hunting and just about
      anything else. Whereas most British sports cars that are remotely
      competitive in field meets go to field meets, club runs, and not
      much else. Most people (not including me) have newer fuel injected
      climate controlled, airbag cars for everyday use while their
      British sports car sits in the garage waiting for a special reason
      to be driven. For most people, they are no longer everyday driver
      cars.</div>
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    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">TeriAnn</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">1960 TR3A</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">1960 Land Rover</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">no other cars<br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/26/19 5:59 PM, Greg Lemon wrote:<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">If you look at prices for things like
          model As and even MG T series, prices have been stagnant the
          last 20-30 years or so, Big Healey's have leveled off the last
          5 or ten years, it happens.
          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br>
          </div>
          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">When I look at most any
            pre-war car I find it interesting, but not anything I would
            ever really want to own, I imagine a lot of younger folks,
            even car people, feel the same way about "our" cars.Â  In
            fact I frequent some car forums with a much younger
            demographic than here, pretty much anything built when
            carburators were the norm is considered unsafe, finicky, and
            slow by a pretty large portion of that group.</div>
          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br>
          </div>
          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Nothing will make you feel
            old quite like somebody suggesting that re-mapping a fuel
            injection system Isa piece of cake, while carbs are a deep,
            dark mystery.</div>
          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br>
          </div>
          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Greg Lemon</div>
          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">TR250</div>
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From: Frank Fisher <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 16:22:49 +0000 (UTC)

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 i have been using an auto fan controller for my TR3.see the link below for the type i have been using.i first used it without a relay and then put in a relay.doesn't seem to matter how i wire them they all seem to last only 2 to 3 years.and its year 3 on my tr3.what are you guys using and how reliable have you found them?being a TR3 im not going to pull the radiator to drill and solder a fitting into the top. ill continue to replace every 2 years rather than pull that darn front clip again.
this is what i have been using:Thermostatic Cool Temp Fan Control Adjustable 12v Volt Car Radiator kit Economy | eBay

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From: Randall <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 13:59:17 -0500

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Frank,

FWIW, I =E2=80=9Crolled my own=E2=80=9D using parts from the electronics ju=
nk bin.  Heart is a 741 style op amp IC, which drives a power MOSFET, which=
 in turns drives a cheap auto relay.  Probably could have left out the rela=
y, but I used it anyway.  The other key piece turned out to be using a volt=
age regulator IC to feed the whole thing (except the relay contacts).  With=
out the VR, the kickback from the fan motor would cause the relay to chatte=
r under some conditions.  (Since the unit was already installed when I figu=
red that out, I just tapped into the VR that also supplies my TR4 temp gaug=
e).

For the sensor, I used an old GM (I think it was) gauge sender, which screw=
s into the opening in the back of the water pump housing where the heater r=
eturn goes (on cars with heaters).  Although I didn=E2=80=99t try it, I bel=
ieve you could put a tee piece there and still hook up the heater return if=
 you wanted to.

That=E2=80=99s probably not much help.  If I didn=E2=80=99t want to build o=
ne, I=E2=80=99d probably still be using the DeRale electronic controller, w=
ith a probe that just pushes into the radiator fins (like the one you linke=
d to).  I ran one on a Stag for almost a year, but converted back to a mech=
anical fan as the electric pusher seemed to block air flow at freeway speed=
s.
https://www.amazon.com/Derale-16759-Adjustable-Fan-Controller/dp/B000CN4XZI=
/ref=3Dpd_cp_263_2

Hayden offers a similar unit as well, which I=E2=80=99ll bet would also be =
more reliable and longer lived than your =E2=80=9Ceconomy=E2=80=9D ebay fin=
d.

- Randall

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he kickback from the fan motor would cause the relay to chatter under some =
conditions.=C2=A0 (Since the unit was already installed when I figured that=
 out, I just tapped into the VR that also supplies my TR4 temp gauge).</p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>For the senso=
r, I used an old GM (I think it was) gauge sender, which screws into the op=
ening in the back of the water pump housing where the heater return goes (o=
n cars with heaters).=C2=A0 Although I didn=E2=80=99t try it, I believe you=
 could put a tee piece there and still hook up the heater return if you wan=
ted to.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>T=
hat=E2=80=99s probably not much help.=C2=A0 If I didn=E2=80=99t want to bui=
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r, with a probe that just pushes into the radiator fins (like the one you l=
inked to).=C2=A0 I ran one on a Stag for almost a year, but converted back =
to a mechanical fan as the electric pusher seemed to block air flow at free=
way speeds.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/Deral=
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I use a controller like this.  lasts for many years.

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From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Frank =
Fisher
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 11:23 AM
To: Frank Fisher <[email-masked]>
Cc: triumphs <[email-masked]>
Subject: [TR] auto fan controllers

=20

i have been using an auto fan controller for my TR3.

see the link below for the type i have been using.

i first used it without a relay and then put in a relay.

doesn't seem to matter how i wire them they all seem to last only 2 to 3 =
years.

and its year 3 on my tr3.

what are you guys using and how reliable have you found them?

being a TR3 im not going to pull the radiator to drill and solder a =
fitting into the top. ill continue to replace every 2 years rather than =
pull that darn front clip again.

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this is what i have been using:

Thermostatic Cool Temp Fan Control Adjustable 12v Volt Car Radiator kit =
Economy | eBay =
<https://www.ebay.com/itm/Thermostatic-Cool-Temp-Fan-Control-Adjustable-1=
2v-Volt-Car-Radiator-kit-Economy/273823671618?hash=3Ditem3fc129a542:g:7oc=
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Thermostatic Cool Temp Fan Control Adjustable 12v Volt Car Radiator kit =
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Adjustable Yes. Mounting Bracket. Built In Display No. Plug n Play =
Harness No. Accuracy 5 Degree. Sensor Mount F...

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thanks

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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Frank =
Fisher<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 28, 2019 11:23 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
Frank Fisher &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> triumphs =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [TR] auto fan =
controllers<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
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class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>i have =
been using an auto fan controller for my =
TR3.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>see the =
link below for the type i have been =
using.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>i first =
used it without a relay and then put in a =
relay.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>doesn't =
seem to matter how i wire them they all seem to last only 2 to 3 =
years.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>and its =
year 3 on my tr3.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>what are =
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them?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>being a =
TR3 im not going to pull the radiator to drill and solder a fitting into =
the top. ill continue to replace every 2 years rather than pull that =
darn front clip again.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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This is the sensor I used.  Seems to work fine.   https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003PB9KQG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003PB9KQG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Also using a 3/8ths standard pipe thread (ISTR) T adapter, I screwed it in where the heater valve mounts to the head.  A plus is the temp it kicks on at is measured where the hottest part of the engine (I also STR) is, between number 3 and 4 cylinders.  

> On August 28, 2019 at 3:11 PM dave <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> 
>     https://www.zoro.com/carling-technologies-toggle-switch-spst-10a-250v-quikconnct-2fa53-73-tabs/i/G3266566/feature-product?gclid=CjwKCAjwzJjrBRBvEiwA867bymi1ci91NdZrzKUKz1nB2WpPaBCI9QU85oYWvQNzadqnP0p7F8kMRRoChjMQAvD_BwE
> 
>      
> 
>      
> 
>     From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Frank Fisher
>     doesn't seem to matter how i wire them they all seem to last only 2 to 3 years.
> 
>     being a TR3 im not going to pull the radiator to drill and solder a fitting into the top. ill continue to replace every 2 years rather than pull that darn front clip again.
> 
>      
> 
>     Thermostatic Cool Temp Fan Control Adjustable 12v Volt Car Radiator kit Economy | eBay https://www.ebay.com/itm/Thermostatic-Cool-Temp-Fan-Control-Adjustable-12v-Volt-Car-Radiator-kit-Economy/273823671618?hash=item3fc129a542:g:7ocAAOSw7DBcxCSt
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lass=3D"ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal">&#160;</p><p class=3D"ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNor=
mal"><a href=3D"https://www.zoro.com/carling-technologies-toggle-switch-sps=
t-10a-250v-quikconnct-2fa53-73-tabs/i/G3266566/feature-product?gclid=3DCjwK=
CAjwzJjrBRBvEiwA867bymi1ci91NdZrzKUKz1nB2WpPaBCI9QU85oYWvQNzadqnP0p7F8kMRRo=
ChjMQAvD_BwE">https://www.zoro.com/carling-technologies-toggle-switch-spst-=
10a-250v-quikconnct-2fa53-73-tabs/i/G3266566/feature-product?gclid=3DCjwKCA=
jwzJjrBRBvEiwA867bymi1ci91NdZrzKUKz1nB2WpPaBCI9QU85oYWvQNzadqnP0p7F8kMRRoCh=
jMQAvD_BwE</a></p><p class=3D"ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal">&#160;</p><p class=
=3D"ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal">&#160;</p><div><div style=3D"border: none; bor=
der-top: solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class=3D"ox-8=
7dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><strong>From:</strong> Triumphs &#60;triumphs-bounces@=
autox.team.net&#62; <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Frank Fisher<br><strong>S=
ent:</strong> Wednesday, August 28, 2019 11:23 AM<br><strong>To:</strong> F=
rank Fisher &#60;[email-masked]&#62;<br><strong>Cc:</strong> triumphs =
&#60;[email-masked]&#62;<br><strong>Subject:</strong> [TR] auto fa=
n controllers</p></div></div><p class=3D"ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal">&#160;</p=
><div><div><p class=3D"ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 1=
2.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;">i have been using an auto fan =
controller for my TR3. </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-seri=
f;">see the link below for the type i have been using. </span></p></div><di=
v><p class=3D"ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; fo=
nt-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;">i first used it without a relay and the=
n put in a relay. </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;">d=
oesn&#39;t seem to matter how i wire them they all seem to last only 2 to 3=
 years. </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;">and its yea=
r 3 on my tr3. </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;">what=
 are you guys using and how reliable have you found them? </span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3D"ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;=
 font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;">being a TR3 im not going to pull the=
 radiator to drill and solder a fitting into the top. ill continue to repla=
ce every 2 years rather than pull that darn front clip again. </span></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.=
0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;"> &#160; </span></p></div><div><p=
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</div><div><p class=3D"ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 1=
2.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;"><a href=3D"https://www.ebay.co=
m/itm/Thermostatic-Cool-Temp-Fan-Control-Adjustable-12v-Volt-Car-Radiator-k=
it-Economy/273823671618?hash=3Ditem3fc129a542:g:7ocAAOSw7DBcxCSt" target=3D=
"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">Thermostatic Cool Temp Fan Control Adjustable 12v=
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Different ways to look at it=2E One of my goals was to have the fan run as =
little as possible, to try and get by with the stock 19 amp generator=2E My=
 thought was that I didn't want the fan to run, if airflow through the radi=
ator was already sufficient to keep it cool; even if the water coming out o=
f the engine was "hot"=2E

Dunno if that really makes sense, but I've been pleased with the result=2E=
 Stopped at a traffic light or similar, the gauge slowly rises until the ne=
edle points to just about the '5' in "185"=2E Then the fan comes on, and it=
 drops back to about the '8' (which is just barely above where it sits goin=
g down the road)=2E

Only other time the fan runs is sometimes when getting off the freeway, it=
 will run for a few seconds until I get back up to 30-40 mph=2E
-- Randall

On 28 August 2019 16:26:13 GMT-05:00, TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast=2Enet> =
wrote:
>This is the sensor I used=2E  Seems to work fine=2E =20
>https://www=2Eamazon=2Ecom/gp/product/B003PB9KQG/ref=3Dppx_yo_dt_b_asin_t=
itle_o02_s00?ie=3DUTF8&psc=3D1
>https://www=2Eamazon=2Ecom/gp/product/B003PB9KQG/ref=3Dppx_yo_dt_b_asin_t=
itle_o02_s00?ie=3DUTF8&psc=3D1
>
>
>Also using a 3/8ths standard pipe thread (ISTR) T adapter, I screwed it
>in where the heater valve mounts to the head=2E  A plus is the temp it
>kicks on at is measured where the hottest part of the engine (I also
>STR) is, between number 3 and 4 cylinders=2E =20
>
>> On August 28, 2019 at 3:11 PM dave <dave@ranteer=2Ecom> wrote:
>>=20
>>=20
>>     I use a controller like this=2E  lasts for many years=2E
>>=20
>>     =20
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>https://www=2Ezoro=2Ecom/carling-technologies-toggle-switch-spst-10a-250v=
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>>=20
>>     =20
>>=20
>>     From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox=2Eteam=2Enet> On Behalf Of
>Frank Fisher
>>     To: Frank Fisher <yellowtr3@yahoo=2Ecom>
>>     Cc: triumphs <triumphs@autox=2Eteam=2Enet>
>>     i have been using an auto fan controller for my TR3=2E
>>=20
>>     see the link below for the type i have been using=2E
>>=20
>>     i first used it without a relay and then put in a relay=2E
>>=20
>>     doesn't seem to matter how i wire them they all seem to last only
>2 to 3 years=2E
>>=20
>>     and its year 3 on my tr3=2E
>>=20
>>     being a TR3 im not going to pull the radiator to drill and solder
>a fitting into the top=2E ill continue to replace every 2 years rather
>than pull that darn front clip again=2E
>>=20
>>     =20
>>=20
>>     Thermostatic Cool Temp Fan Control Adjustable 12v Volt Car
>Radiator kit Economy | eBay
>https://www=2Eebay=2Ecom/itm/Thermostatic-Cool-Temp-Fan-Control-Adjustabl=
e-12v-Volt-Car-Radiator-kit-Economy/273823671618?hash=3Ditem3fc129a542:g:7o=
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>>=20
>>     =20
>>=20
>>=20
>>     [Text Box: $29=2E22]
>>=20
>>=20
>>     Thermostatic Cool Temp Fan Control Adjustable 12v Volt Car
>Radiator kit =2E=2E=2E
>>     Adjustable Yes=2E Mounting Bracket=2E Built In Display No=2E Plug n
>Play Harness No=2E Accuracy 5 Degree=2E Sensor Mount F=2E=2E=2E
>>=20
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>>     thanks
>>=20
>>     Frank
>>=20
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>
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>> ** triumphs@autox=2Eteam=2Enet **
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</head><body>Different ways to look at it=2E One of my goals was to have t=
he fan run as little as possible, to try and get by with the stock 19 amp g=
enerator=2E My thought was that I didn't want the fan to run, if airflow th=
rough the radiator was already sufficient to keep it cool; even if the wate=
r coming out of the engine was "hot"=2E<br><br>Dunno if that really makes s=
ense, but I've been pleased with the result=2E Stopped at a traffic light o=
r similar, the gauge slowly rises until the needle points to just about the=
 '5' in "185"=2E Then the fan comes on, and it drops back to about the '8' =
(which is just barely above where it sits going down the road)=2E<br><br>On=
ly other time the fan runs is sometimes when getting off the freeway, it wi=
ll run for a few seconds until I get back up to 30-40 mph=2E<br>-- Randall<=
br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 28 August 2019 16:26:13 GMT-05:00, TER=
RY SMITH &lt;terryrs@comcast=2Enet&gt; wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 2=
04, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; co=
lor: rgb(51, 51, 51);">This is the sensor I used=2E&nbsp; Seems to work fin=
e=2E&nbsp; &nbsp;<a href=3D"https://www=2Eamazon=2Ecom/gp/product/B003PB9KQ=
G/ref=3Dppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=3DUTF8&amp;psc=3D1">https://www=
=2Eamazon=2Ecom/gp/product/B003PB9KQG/ref=3Dppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?=
ie=3DUTF8&amp;psc=3D1</a></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helv=
etica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><br></p><p style=3D"font=
-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, =
51);">Also using a 3/8ths standard pipe thread (ISTR) T adapter, I screwed =
it in where the heater valve mounts to the head=2E&nbsp; A plus is the temp=
 it kicks on at is measured where the hottest part of the engine (I also ST=
R) is, between number 3 and 4 cylinders=2E&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><blockquote type=
=3D"cite">On August 28, 2019 at 3:11 PM dave &lt;dave@ranteer=2Ecom&gt; wro=
te: <br> <br><div class=3D"ox-87dc1aa9af-WordSection1"><p class=3D"ox-87dc1=
aa9af-MsoNormal">I use a controller like this=2E&nbsp; lasts for many years=
=2E</p><p class=3D"ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ox-87dc1a=
a9af-MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://www=2Ezoro=2Ecom/carling-technologies-to=
ggle-switch-spst-10a-250v-quikconnct-2fa53-73-tabs/i/G3266566/feature-produ=
ct?gclid=3DCjwKCAjwzJjrBRBvEiwA867bymi1ci91NdZrzKUKz1nB2WpPaBCI9QU85oYWvQNz=
adqnP0p7F8kMRRoChjMQAvD_BwE">https://www=2Ezoro=2Ecom/carling-technologies-=
toggle-switch-spst-10a-250v-quikconnct-2fa53-73-tabs/i/G3266566/feature-pro=
duct?gclid=3DCjwKCAjwzJjrBRBvEiwA867bymi1ci91NdZrzKUKz1nB2WpPaBCI9QU85oYWvQ=
NzadqnP0p7F8kMRRoChjMQAvD_BwE</a></p><p class=3D"ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal">&=
nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div><div style=3D"=
border: none; border-top: solid #E1E1E1 1=2E0pt; padding: 3=2E0pt 0in 0in 0=
in;"><p class=3D"ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><strong>From:</strong> Triumphs &=
lt;triumphs-bounces@autox=2Eteam=2Enet&gt; <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Fr=
ank Fisher<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Wednesday, August 28, 2019 11:23 AM<br=
><strong>To:</strong> Frank Fisher &lt;yellowtr3@yahoo=2Ecom&gt;<br><strong=
>Cc:</strong> triumphs &lt;triumphs@autox=2Eteam=2Enet&gt;<br><strong>Subje=
ct:</strong> [TR] auto fan controllers</p></div></div><p class=3D"ox-87dc1a=
a9af-MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div><div><p class=3D"ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size: 12=2E0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;">i h=
ave been using an auto fan controller for my TR3=2E </span></p></div><div><=
p class=3D"ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12=2E0pt; fon=
t-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;">see the link below for the type i have b=
een using=2E </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 12=2E0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;">i fi=
rst used it without a relay and then put in a relay=2E </span></p></div><di=
v><p class=3D"ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12=2E0pt; =
font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;">doesn't seem to matter how i wire the=
m they all seem to last only 2 to 3 years=2E </span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12=2E0pt; font-famil=
y: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;">and its year 3 on my tr3=2E </span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12=2E0pt;=
 font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;">what are you guys using and how reli=
able have you found them? </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ox-87dc1aa9af-M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12=2E0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans=
-serif;">being a TR3 im not going to pull the radiator to drill and solder =
a fitting into the top=2E ill continue to replace every 2 years rather than=
 pull that darn front clip again=2E </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ox-87=
dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12=2E0pt; font-family: 'Helve=
tica',sans-serif;"> &nbsp; </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ox-87dc1aa9af-=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12=2E0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',san=
s-serif;">this is what i have been using: </span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12=2E0pt; font-family: =
'Helvetica',sans-serif;"><a href=3D"https://www=2Eebay=2Ecom/itm/Thermostat=
ic-Cool-Temp-Fan-Control-Adjustable-12v-Volt-Car-Radiator-kit-Economy/27382=
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From: Frank Fisher <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 00:05:37 +0000 (UTC)

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 my desire was to have the fan come on automatically, even though im using =
an alternator.
as you know Randall i live in the desert here in so cal and our worse days =
can get up to around 110.
if controlled by a manual switch on the dash my concern is that a moment of=
 forgetfulness will lead to a very quick disaster.
pulling up that long long the hill from escondido to temecula puts quite th=
e strain on the cooling system. especially when traffic is heavy and not so=
 fast. i find that i need the 14" fan full blast and air moving through the=
 radiator by normal means, and on occasion i have run the heater inside to =
keep things in line.

    On Wednesday, August 28, 2019, 04:35:29 PM PDT, Randall <[email-masked]=
r.com> wrote: =20
=20
 Different ways to look at it. One of my goals was to have the fan run as l=
ittle as possible, to try and get by with the stock 19 amp generator. My th=
ought was that I didn't want the fan to run, if airflow through the radiato=
r was already sufficient to keep it cool; even if the water coming out of t=
he engine was "hot".

Dunno if that really makes sense, but I've been pleased with the result. St=
opped at a traffic light or similar, the gauge slowly rises until the needl=
e points to just about the '5' in "185". Then the fan comes on, and it drop=
s back to about the '8' (which is just barely above where it sits going dow=
n the road).

Only other time the fan runs is sometimes when getting off the freeway, it =
will run for a few seconds until I get back up to 30-40 mph.
-- Randall

On 28 August 2019 16:26:13 GMT-05:00, TERRY SMITH <[email-masked]> wro=
te:

This is the sensor I used.=C2=A0 Seems to work fine.=C2=A0 =C2=A0https://ww=
w.amazon.com/gp/product/B003PB9KQG/ref=3Dppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=
=3DUTF8&psc=3D1

Also using a 3/8ths standard pipe thread (ISTR) T adapter, I screwed it in =
where the heater valve mounts to the head.=C2=A0 A plus is the temp it kick=
s on at is measured where the hottest part of the engine (I also STR) is, b=
etween number 3 and 4 cylinders.=C2=A0=C2=A0

On August 28, 2019 at 3:11 PM dave <[email-masked]> wrote:=20
=20

I use a controller like this.=C2=A0 lasts for many years.

=C2=A0

https://www.zoro.com/carling-technologies-toggle-switch-spst-10a-250v-quikc=
onnct-2fa53-73-tabs/i/G3266566/feature-product?gclid=3DCjwKCAjwzJjrBRBvEiwA=
867bymi1ci91NdZrzKUKz1nB2WpPaBCI9QU85oYWvQNzadqnP0p7F8kMRRoChjMQAvD_BwE

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

i have been using an auto fan controller for my TR3.=20

see the link below for the type i have been using.=20

i first used it without a relay and then put in a relay.=20

doesn't seem to matter how i wire them they all seem to last only 2 to 3 ye=
ars.=20

and its year 3 on my tr3.=20

what are you guys using and how reliable have you found them?=20

being a TR3 im not going to pull the radiator to drill and solder a fitting=
 into the top. ill continue to replace every 2 years rather than pull that =
darn front clip again.=20

 =C2=A0=20

this is what i have been using:=20

Thermostatic Cool Temp Fan Control Adjustable 12v Volt Car Radiator kit Eco=
nomy | eBay=20

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Frank=20

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=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px=
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">my desire was to have the fa=
n come on automatically, even though im using an alternator.</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fa=
lse">as you know Randall i live in the desert here in so cal and our worse =
days can get up to around 110.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">if controlled by a manual =
switch on the dash my concern is that a moment of forgetfulness will lead t=
o a very quick disaster.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">pulling up that long long the hi=
ll from escondido to temecula puts quite the strain on the cooling system. =
especially when traffic is heavy and not so fast. i find that i need the 14=
" fan full blast and air moving through the radiator by normal means, and o=
n occasion i have run the heater inside to keep things in line.</div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"=
false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div><br>=
</div>
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ans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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                <div>
                    On Wednesday, August 28, 2019, 04:35:29 PM PDT, Randall=
 &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281"><div>Different wa=
ys to look at it. One of my goals was to have the fan run as little as poss=
ible, to try and get by with the stock 19 amp generator. My thought was tha=
t I didn't want the fan to run, if airflow through the radiator was already=
 sufficient to keep it cool; even if the water coming out of the engine was=
 "hot".<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Dunno if that really makes sen=
se, but I've been pleased with the result. Stopped at a traffic light or si=
milar, the gauge slowly rises until the needle points to just about the '5'=
 in "185". Then the fan comes on, and it drops back to about the '8' (which=
 is just barely above where it sits going down the road).<br clear=3D"none"=
><br clear=3D"none">Only other time the fan runs is sometimes when getting =
off the freeway, it will run for a few seconds until I get back up to 30-40=
 mph.<br clear=3D"none">-- Randall<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><di=
v class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281yqt1690585353" id=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv33523=
44281yqtfd67796"><div class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281gmail_quote">On 28 A=
ugust 2019 16:26:13 GMT-05:00, TERRY SMITH &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrot=
e:<blockquote class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1e=
x;">
<p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color:r=
gb(51, 51, 51);">This is the sensor I used.&nbsp; Seems to work fine.&nbsp;=
 &nbsp;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003PB9K=
QG/ref=3Dppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=3DUTF8&amp;psc=3D1" rel=3D"nofol=
low" target=3D"_blank">https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003PB9KQG/ref=3Dp=
px_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=3DUTF8&amp;psc=3D1</a></p><p style=3D"font=
-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);"=
><br clear=3D"none"></p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, a=
rial, sans-serif;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);">Also using a 3/8ths standard pipe =
thread (ISTR) T adapter, I screwed it in where the heater valve mounts to t=
he head.&nbsp; A plus is the temp it kicks on at is measured where the hott=
est part of the engine (I also STR) is, between number 3 and 4 cylinders.&n=
bsp;&nbsp;</p><blockquote type=3D"cite">On August 28, 2019 at 3:11 PM dave =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote: <br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"><div=
 class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281ox-87dc1aa9af-WordSection1"><p class=3D"y=
dp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal">I use a controller like thi=
s.&nbsp; lasts for many years.</p><p class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281ox-87=
dc1aa9af-MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281ox-87dc1a=
a9af-MsoNormal"><a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://www.zoro.com/carling-tech=
nologies-toggle-switch-spst-10a-250v-quikconnct-2fa53-73-tabs/i/G3266566/fe=
ature-product?gclid=3DCjwKCAjwzJjrBRBvEiwA867bymi1ci91NdZrzKUKz1nB2WpPaBCI9=
QU85oYWvQNzadqnP0p7F8kMRRoChjMQAvD_BwE" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">=
https://www.zoro.com/carling-technologies-toggle-switch-spst-10a-250v-quikc=
onnct-2fa53-73-tabs/i/G3266566/feature-product?gclid=3DCjwKCAjwzJjrBRBvEiwA=
867bymi1ci91NdZrzKUKz1nB2WpPaBCI9QU85oYWvQNzadqnP0p7F8kMRRoChjMQAvD_BwE</a>=
</p><p class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=
<p class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div=
><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in=
 0in 0in;"><p class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><st=
rong>From:</strong> Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <stron=
g>On Behalf Of </strong>Frank Fisher<br clear=3D"none"><strong>Sent:</stron=
g> Wednesday, August 28, 2019 11:23 AM<br clear=3D"none"><strong>To:</stron=
g> Frank Fisher &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><strong>Cc:</=
strong> triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><strong>=
Subject:</strong> [TR] auto fan controllers</p></div></div><p class=3D"ydp3=
aafa4a3yiv3352344281ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div><div><p class=
=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:12.0pt;font-family:'Helvetica', sans-serif;">i have been using an auto f=
an controller for my TR3. </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3=
352344281ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-fami=
ly:'Helvetica', sans-serif;">see the link below for the type i have been us=
ing. </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281ox-87dc1aa9a=
f-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:'Helvetica', sans-=
serif;">i first used it without a relay and then put in a relay. </span></p=
></div><div><p class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:'Helvetica', sans-serif;">doesn't=
 seem to matter how i wire them they all seem to last only 2 to 3 years. </=
span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:'Helvetica', sans-serif;"=
>and its year 3 on my tr3. </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv=
3352344281ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-fam=
ily:'Helvetica', sans-serif;">what are you guys using and how reliable have=
 you found them? </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281=
ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:'Helve=
tica', sans-serif;">being a TR3 im not going to pull the radiator to drill =
and solder a fitting into the top. ill continue to replace every 2 years ra=
ther than pull that darn front clip again. </span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:12.0pt;font-family:'Helvetica', sans-serif;"> &nbsp; </span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:'Helvetica', sans-serif;">this is what i h=
ave been using: </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281o=
x-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:'Helvet=
ica', sans-serif;"><a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://www.ebay.com/itm/Therm=
ostatic-Cool-Temp-Fan-Control-Adjustable-12v-Volt-Car-Radiator-kit-Economy/=
273823671618?hash=3Ditem3fc129a542:g:7ocAAOSw7DBcxCSt" rel=3D"nofollow" tar=
get=3D"_blank">Thermostatic Cool Temp Fan Control Adjustable 12v Volt Car R=
adiator kit Economy | eBay</a> </span></p><div><p class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv33=
52344281ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-famil=
y:'Helvetica', sans-serif;"> &nbsp; </span></p></div><table class=3D"ydp3aa=
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From: Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 20:52:36 -0400

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On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 8:05 PM Frank Fisher <[email-masked]> wrote:

>
> if controlled by a manual switch on the dash my concern is that a moment
> of forgetfulness will lead to a very quick disaster.
>
>
Using a pair of regular Bosch relays, you could use a momentary switch or
button to latch the fan relay on as long as the ignition was on.  When you
shut the car off, it would reset the system. It would take a second switch
(or button) to turn the fan off if you wanted to do that.  You'd look like
you were driving 007's Aston Martin, though, with all the buttons, so
there's a plus.

Jeff Scarbrough
Corrosion Acres, Ga.

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        <div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">if controlled by a manu=
al switch on the dash my concern is that a moment of forgetfulness will lea=
d to a very quick disaster.</div></div></div><br></blockquote><div><br></di=
v><div>Using a pair of regular Bosch relays, you could use a momentary swit=
ch or button to latch the fan relay on as long as the ignition was on.=C2=
=A0 When you shut the car off, it would reset the system. It would take a s=
econd switch (or button) to turn the fan off if you wanted to do that.=C2=
=A0 You&#39;d look like you were driving 007&#39;s Aston Martin, though, wi=
th all the buttons, so there&#39;s a plus.</div><div><br></div><div>Jeff Sc=
arbrough</div><div>Corrosion Acres, Ga.</div></div></div>

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