Subject: Re: [TR] Lost more than just my head!

From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2019 13:14:58 +0000 (UTC)

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 Let's see, stored outside under a tarp for several years, valve stuck open=
, valve made out of steel, steel rusts, um... yeah, I think so.
Sorry for the bad news.
FWIW, I took my head to the shop the other week.=C2=A0 It was working mostl=
y OK but I was suffering from valve seat recession.=C2=A0 The machinist sai=
d my valves were rusting.=C2=A0 This on a working head.=C2=A0 So I ordered =
new valves.=C2=A0 Lot$ of $tuff to do on this head.
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Dave=20

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-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Dorsey <[email-masked]>
To: Triumph list Team.net <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sun, Aug 25, 2019 3:01 pm
Subject: [TR] Lost more than just my head!

I don't know alot and my TR3 has been up on blocks outside covered up with =
a tarp for about 15 years.=C2=A0 I think I started the motor about 5=C2=A0y=
ears ago.=C2=A0 Its been quiet since that time; I've wanted to wait until r=
etirement to get it going again.=C2=A0 I didn't anticipate losing my driver=
s license, which might affect my plans.=C2=A0 However, maybe the TR3's styl=
ishness will throw off the cops if they pull me over.
I pulled back the tarp, (I had prievously removed the bonnett), lifted the =
valve cover and saw that I needed a pushrod tube as I never completed the v=
alve adjustment job about 5 years ago.In doing so I also saw one of the val=
ves stuck open! I don't remember this happening, but I'll need to address i=
t before continuing with the valve adjustment. Is there any likelyhood that=
 something like stuck open because of a dry valve guide?=C2=A0 Is it essent=
ial that I pull the head?=C2=A0 I kinda think it is.
Paul Dorsey=C2=A0 60 TR3A

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<div> <font size="3">Let's see, stored outside under a tarp for several years, valve stuck open, valve made out of steel, steel rusts, um... yeah, I think so.</font></div>

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<div><font size="3">Sorry for the bad news.</font></div>

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<div><font size="3">FWIW, I took my head to the shop the other week.&nbsp; It was working mostly OK but I was suffering from valve seat recession.&nbsp; The machinist said my valves were rusting.&nbsp; This on a working head.&nbsp; So I ordered new valves.&nbsp; Lot$ of $tuff to do on this head.</font><br>
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<div style="clear:both"><font size="4">Dave </font><br>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Paul Dorsey &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: Triumph list Team.net &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Sun, Aug 25, 2019 3:01 pm<br>
Subject: [TR] Lost more than just my head!<br>
<br>

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<div dir="ltr">I don't know alot and my TR3 has been up on blocks outside covered up with a tarp for about 15 years.&nbsp; I think I started the motor about 5&nbsp;years ago.&nbsp; Its been quiet since that time; I've wanted to wait until retirement to get it going again.&nbsp; I didn't anticipate losing my drivers license, which might affect my plans.&nbsp; However, maybe the TR3's stylishness will throw off the cops if they pull me over.
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<div>I pulled back the tarp, (I had prievously removed the bonnett), lifted the valve cover and saw that I needed a pushrod tube as I never completed the valve adjustment job about 5 years ago.</div>

<div>In doing so I also saw one of the valves stuck open! I don't remember this happening, but I'll need to address it before continuing with the valve adjustment. Is there any likelyhood that something like stuck open because of a dry valve guide?&nbsp; Is it essential that I pull the head?&nbsp; I kinda think it is.</div>

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<div>Paul Dorsey&nbsp; 60 TR3A</div>
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From: Paul Dorsey <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2019 19:27:51 -0400

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It's been about 5 years since I've ran my TR3's engine and I now see one of
the exhaust valve's stuck open.  So I turned over the engine with a wrench
(having sprayed lubricant into the cylinders thru the spark plug holes), I
even ran a couple of feet of lamp cord into the spark plug hole hoping that
might help push out the rusty (I guess) valve but it still wouldn't budge
using my socket wrench.)  I contemplated using a cheater pipe on my socket
wrench, but didnt want to chance it.  At this point, I think I'll pull the
head and take it to my engine shop.  Question: Who do they get their parts
from?  Are they as good as Moss, or TRF?

Here  is Triumph Team.net archive link:
http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/
I forgot how I got on the list , but here is their email
[email-masked]

Thanks, Paul Dorsey in Athens

On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 9:15 AM DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Let's see, stored outside under a tarp for several years, valve stuck
> open, valve made out of steel, steel rusts, um... yeah, I think so.
>
> Sorry for the bad news.
>
> FWIW, I took my head to the shop the other week.  It was working mostly OK
> but I was suffering from valve seat recession.  The machinist said my
> valves were rusting.  This on a working head.  So I ordered new valves.
> Lot$ of $tuff to do on this head.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> I don't know alot and my TR3 has been up on blocks outside covered up with
> a tarp for about 15 years.  I think I started the motor about 5 years ago.
> Its been quiet since that time; I've wanted to wait until retirement to get
> it going again.  I didn't anticipate losing my drivers license, which might
> affect my plans.  However, maybe the TR3's stylishness will throw off the
> cops if they pull me over.
>
> I pulled back the tarp, (I had prievously removed the bonnett), lifted the
> valve cover and saw that I needed a pushrod tube as I never completed the
> valve adjustment job about 5 years ago.
> In doing so I also saw one of the valves stuck open! I don't remember this
> happening, but I'll need to address it before continuing with the valve
> adjustment. Is there any likelyhood that something like stuck open because
> of a dry valve guide?  Is it essential that I pull the head?  I kinda think
> it is.
>
> Paul Dorsey  60 TR3A
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">It&#39;s been about 5 years since I&#39;ve ran my TR3&#39;=
s engine and I now see one of the exhaust valve&#39;s stuck open.=C2=A0 So =
I turned over the engine with a wrench (having sprayed lubricant into the c=
ylinders thru the spark plug holes), I even ran a couple of feet of lamp co=
rd into the spark plug hole hoping that might help push out the rusty (I gu=
ess) valve but it still wouldn&#39;t budge using my socket wrench.)=C2=A0 I=
 contemplated using a cheater pipe on my socket wrench, but didnt want to c=
hance it.=C2=A0 At this=C2=A0point, I think I&#39;ll pull the head and take=
 it to my engine shop.=C2=A0 Question: Who do they get their parts from?=C2=
=A0 Are they as good as Moss, or TRF?<div><br></div><div>Here=C2=A0 is Triu=
mph Team.net archive link:=C2=A0=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://www.team.net/piperm=
ail/triumphs/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/</a=
></div><div>I forgot how I got on the list , but here is their email=C2=A0<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-f=
amily:arial,helvetica;font-size:13.3333px">[email-masked]</a></div=
><div><br></div><div>Thanks, Paul Dorsey in Athens</div></div><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 26, 201=
9 at 9:15 AM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(2=
04,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"color:black;font:12pt Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<div> <font size=3D"3">Let&#39;s see, stored outside under a tarp for sever=
al years, valve stuck open, valve made out of steel, steel rusts, um... yea=
h, I think so.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">Sorry for the bad news.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">FWIW, I took my head to the shop the other week.=C2=
=A0 It was working mostly OK but I was suffering from valve seat recession.=
=C2=A0 The machinist said my valves were rusting.=C2=A0 This on a working h=
ead.=C2=A0 So I ordered new valves.=C2=A0 Lot$ of $tuff to do on this head.=
</font><br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
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<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----=
Original Message-----<br>
From: Paul Dorsey &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
To: Triumph list Team.net &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Sun, Aug 25, 2019 3:01 pm<br>
Subject: [TR] Lost more than just my head!<br>
<br>

<div id=3D"gmail-m_-7427306243306512223gmail-m_-7857817154211245647gmail-m_=
-1456961679728666955yiv0223299422">
<div dir=3D"ltr">I don&#39;t know alot and my TR3 has been up on blocks out=
side covered up with a tarp for about 15 years.=C2=A0 I think I started the=
 motor about 5=C2=A0years ago.=C2=A0 Its been quiet since that time; I&#39;=
ve wanted to wait until retirement to get it going again.=C2=A0 I didn&#39;=
t anticipate losing my drivers license, which might affect my plans.=C2=A0 =
However, maybe the TR3&#39;s stylishness will throw off the cops if they pu=
ll me over.
<div><br>
</div>

<div>I pulled back the tarp, (I had prievously removed the bonnett), lifted=
 the valve cover and saw that I needed a pushrod tube as I never completed =
the valve adjustment job about 5 years ago.</div>

<div>In doing so I also saw one of the valves stuck open! I don&#39;t remem=
ber this happening, but I&#39;ll need to address it before continuing with =
the valve adjustment. Is there any likelyhood that something like stuck ope=
n because of a dry valve guide?=C2=A0 Is it essential that I pull the head?=
=C2=A0 I kinda think it is.</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Paul Dorsey=C2=A0 60 TR3A</div>
</div>
</div>
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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 11:33:01 +0000 (UTC)

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 I just ordered valves for my TR6 from Moss.=C2=A0 TRF is also a good sourc=
e.=C2=A0 If you don't want to deal with either of them try TS Imported in O=
hio.=C2=A0 But at $5 - $6 a piece, they are not expensive and the cost will=
 get lost in the machine shop changes.
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Dave=20

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-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Dorsey <[email-masked]>
To: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Cc: Triumph list Team.net <[email-masked]>
Sent: Mon, Aug 26, 2019 6:28 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Lost more than just my head!

It's been about 5 years since I've ran my TR3's engine and I now see one of=
 the exhaust valve's stuck open.=C2=A0 So I turned over the engine with a w=
rench (having sprayed lubricant into the cylinders thru the spark plug hole=
s), I even ran a couple of feet of lamp cord into the spark plug hole hopin=
g that might help push out the rusty (I guess) valve but it still wouldn't =
budge using my socket wrench.)=C2=A0 I contemplated using a cheater pipe on=
 my socket wrench, but didnt want to chance it.=C2=A0 At this=C2=A0point, I=
 think I'll pull the head and take it to my engine shop.=C2=A0 Question: Wh=
o do they get their parts from?=C2=A0 Are they as good as Moss, or TRF?
Here=C2=A0 is Triumph Team.net archive link:=C2=A0=C2=A0http://www.team.net=
/pipermail/triumphs/I forgot how I got on the list , but here is their emai=
l=C2=[email-masked]
Thanks, Paul Dorsey in Athens
On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 9:15 AM DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> wrote:

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-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Dorsey <[email-masked]>
To: Triumph list Team.net <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sun, Aug 25, 2019 3:01 pm
Subject: [TR] Lost more than just my head!

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<div> <font size="3">I just ordered valves for my TR6 from Moss.&nbsp; TRF is also a good source.&nbsp; If you don't want to deal with either of them try TS Imported in Ohio.&nbsp; But at $5 - $6 a piece, they are not expensive and the cost will get lost in the machine shop changes.</font><br>
</div>

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</div>

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</div>

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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Paul Dorsey &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: DAVID MASSEY &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: Triumph list Team.net &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Mon, Aug 26, 2019 6:28 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] Lost more than just my head!<br>
<br>

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<div dir="ltr">It's been about 5 years since I've ran my TR3's engine and I now see one of the exhaust valve's stuck open.&nbsp; So I turned over the engine with a wrench (having sprayed lubricant into the cylinders thru the spark plug holes), I even ran a couple of feet of lamp cord into the spark plug hole hoping that might help push out the rusty (I guess) valve but it still wouldn't budge using my socket wrench.)&nbsp; I contemplated using a cheater pipe on my socket wrench, but didnt want to chance it.&nbsp; At this&nbsp;point, I think I'll pull the head and take it to my engine shop.&nbsp; Question: Who do they get their parts from?&nbsp; Are they as good as Moss, or TRF?
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<div>Here&nbsp; is Triumph Team.net archive link:&nbsp;&nbsp;<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" removedlink__81678131-fbd4-482a-b009-107bac394d56__href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/">http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/</a></div>

<div>I forgot how I got on the list , but here is their email&nbsp;<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank" style="font-family:arial, helvetica;font-size:13.3333px;" removedlink__81678131-fbd4-482a-b009-107bac394d56__href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a></div>

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<div>Thanks, Paul Dorsey in Athens</div>
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<div class="yiv8879255674gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 9:15 AM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank" removedlink__81678131-fbd4-482a-b009-107bac394d56__href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear="none"></div>
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<div><font size="3">FWIW, I took my head to the shop the other week.&nbsp; It was working mostly OK but I was suffering from valve seat recession.&nbsp; The machinist said my valves were rusting.&nbsp; This on a working head.&nbsp; So I ordered new valves.&nbsp; Lot$ of $tuff to do on this head.</font><br clear="none">
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<div style="clear:both;"><font size="4">Dave </font><br clear="none">
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To: Triumph list Team.net &lt;<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank" removedlink__81678131-fbd4-482a-b009-107bac394d56__href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear="none">
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