Subject: Re: [TR] MGA

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One correction, James Dean died in a 550 Porsche Spyder, one of only 90 pr=
oduced, not a Speedster. =C2=A0It had a=C2=A01.5 liter engine, but it was =
a Carrera engine with twin overhead cams,=C2=A0two separate ignition manif=
olds=C2=A0and=C2=A0two ignition coils. =C2=A0It was also a mid engine desi=
gn like the 914 and the current Boxter and Cayman. =C2=A0So this car isn't=
 comparable to a=C2=A0Triumph or MGA of that era.=0A=0ARye=0A1960 TR3A=0A1=
963 356=0A1968 912=0A1988 911 Carrera=0A=0A=0A=0AOn July 16, 2019 at 4:48 =
PM, TERRY SMITH <[email-masked]> wrote:=0A=0AHmmm.=C2=A0 So looking q=
uickly other street cars of the time, a 1959 Porsche 356 A had a 1.6 liter=
 engine; I don't know about the Porsche "speedster" or even if it was diff=
erent, other than James Dean died in one.=C2=A0 The 1959 MGA had a 1.6 lit=
er.=C2=A0 The Jaguar XK 150 had a 3.8 liter engine.=C2=A0 Karmann Ghia had=
 between a 1.1 and 1.3 liter engine.=C2=A0 As far as I can tell the Fiat 8=
50 started in 1964, with an engine a single strong man could seemingly lif=
t.=C2=A0 The Sunbeam Alpine was a 1.5 liter.=C2=A0 The Austin Martin DB4 w=
as 3.7 liters.=C2=A0 Couldn't quickly find the big Healeys four and six cy=
linder engines.=C2=A0 The Bugeye Sprite was a 0.948 liter; my sister calle=
d it her putt-putt.=C2=A0 Triumphs and Morgans, of course, ran the same 2 =
liter engine.=0A=0AAll this said, and certainly subject to any corrections=
 you might have, I remain unsure how Triumphs stacked up in races against =
these.=C2=A0 Anybody?=0A=0ATerry=0AOn July 16, 2019 at 5:40 PM Randall <tr=
[email-masked]> wrote: =0A=0A110 mph in 4th OD is only 4500 rpm.=C2=A0 =
Not what I call =E2=80=9Ccrank shattering rpm=E2=80=9D.=C2=A0 A stock TR3 =
won=E2=80=99t usually run that fast of course, but 87mm liners were actual=
ly cheaper than 83s, back in the 70s.=C2=A0 (I actually found a set that h=
ad been returned to Warshawski=E2=80=99s in Chicago, better known as JC Wh=
itney, for even less than the usual price.)=0A=C2=A0=0AAnd I=E2=80=99ve ru=
n 4500 for literally hours without a problem.=C2=A0 (Speed enforcement in =
the desert tends to be lax =F0=9F=98=8A )=0A=C2=A0=0ASent from Mail for Wi=
ndows 10=0A=C2=A0=0AFrom: TERRY SMITH=0ASent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 1:47 =
PM=0ATo: Randall=0ACc: Triumphs=0ASubject: Re: [TR] MGA=0A=C2=A0=0AThat re=
minds me.=C2=A0 When I say my TR3 "keeps up with traffic," I'm referencing=
 traffic on the freeway here (tollway, rather) that clips along between 70=
 and 80 mph.=C2=A0 I've been curious about the various cruising speeds and=
 power performances of TR3's and their competition back in the day, cruisi=
ng that is without winding up to crank shattering rpm's.=C2=A0 Anybody fam=
iliar with that?=C2=A0=0A=0A=C2=A0=0A** [email-masked] ** =0A=0AD=
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<html><body><div><span style=3D"font-size: 14px; font-family: geneva, sans-serif;" dat=
a-mce-style=3D"font-size: 14px; font-family: geneva, sans-serif;">One corr=
ection, James Dean died in a 550 Porsche Spyder, one of only 90 produced, =
not a Speedster. &nbsp;It had a&nbsp;1.5 liter engine, but it was a Carrer=
a engine with twin overhead cams,&nbsp;<span style=3D"color: #222222; font=
-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spa=
cing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; w=
hite-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; bac=
kground-color: #ffffff; float: none; display: inline !important;" data-mce=
-style=3D"color: #222222; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; f=
ont-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent=
: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webk=
it-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: #ffffff; float: none; display=
: inline !important;">two separate ignition manifolds&nbsp;and&nbsp;two ig=
nition coils. &nbsp;It was also a mid engine design like the 914 and the c=
urrent Boxter and Cayman. &nbsp;So this car isn't comparable to a&nbsp;Tri=
umph or MGA of that era.</span></span></div><div><span style=3D"color: #22=
2222; font-family: geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal=
; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: no=
rmal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color:=
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r: #222222; font-family: geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: no=
rmal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-spa=
ce: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-=
color: #ffffff; float: none; display: inline !important;"><br></span></div=
><div id=3D"x-apple-maildrop-container">&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"x-apple-=
signature"><span style=3D"font-size: 14px; font-family: geneva, sans-serif=
;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 14px; font-family: geneva, sans-serif;">Ry=
e</span><br><span face=3D"geneva, sans-serif" data-mce-style=3D"font-famil=
y: geneva, sans-serif;" style=3D"font-family: geneva, sans-serif;"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size: 14px;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 14px;">1960 TR3A</s=
pan></span></div><div class=3D"x-apple-signature"><span face=3D"geneva, sa=
ns-serif" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: geneva, sans-serif;" style=3D"fon=
t-family: geneva, sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" data-mce-s=
tyle=3D"font-size: 14px;">1963 356</span></span></div><div class=3D"x-appl=
e-signature"><span face=3D"geneva, sans-serif" data-mce-style=3D"font-fami=
ly: geneva, sans-serif;" style=3D"font-family: geneva, sans-serif;"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 14px;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 14px;">1968 912</s=
pan></span></div><div class=3D"x-apple-signature"><span face=3D"geneva, sa=
ns-serif" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: geneva, sans-serif;" style=3D"fon=
t-family: geneva, sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" data-mce-s=
tyle=3D"font-size: 14px;">1988 911 Carrera</span></span></div><div class=3D=
"x-apple-signature"><span face=3D"geneva, sans-serif" data-mce-style=3D"fo=
nt-family: geneva, sans-serif;" style=3D"font-family: geneva, sans-serif;"=
><span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 14px;"><br>=
</span></span></div><div class=3D"x-apple-signature"><span face=3D"geneva,=
 sans-serif" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: geneva, sans-serif;" style=3D"=
font-family: geneva, sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" data-mc=
e-style=3D"font-size: 14px;"><br></span></span></div><div><br>On July 16, =
2019 at 4:48 PM, TERRY SMITH &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></d=
iv><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"msg-quote"><p style=3D"fon=
t-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;" da=
ta-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; =
color: #333333;">Hmmm.&nbsp; So looking quickly other street cars of the t=
ime, a 1959 Porsche 356 A had a 1.6 liter engine; I don't know about the P=
orsche "speedster" or even if it was different, other than James Dean died=
 in one.&nbsp; The 1959 MGA had a 1.6 liter.&nbsp; The Jaguar XK 150 had a=
 3.8 liter engine.&nbsp; Karmann Ghia had between a 1.1 and 1.3 liter engi=
ne.&nbsp; As far as I can tell the Fiat 850 started in 1964, with an engin=
e a single strong man could seemingly lift.&nbsp; The Sunbeam Alpine was a=
 1.5 liter.&nbsp; The Austin Martin DB4 was 3.7 liters.&nbsp; Couldn't qui=
ckly find the big Healeys four and six cylinder engines.&nbsp; The Bugeye =
Sprite was a 0.948 liter; my sister called it her putt-putt.&nbsp; Triumph=
s and Morgans, of course, ran the same 2 liter engine.<br></p><p style=3D"=
font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;"=
 data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-seri=
f; color: #333333;"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helv=
etica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12pt=
; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;">All this said,=
 and certainly subject to any corrections you might have, I remain unsure =
how Triumphs stacked up in races against these.&nbsp; Anybody?<br></p><p s=
tyle=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: #=
333333;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,s=
ans-serif; color: #333333;"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-fami=
ly: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;" data-mce-style=3D"font-si=
ze: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;">Terry<=
br></p><blockquote type=3D"cite">On July 16, 2019 at 5:40 PM Randall &lt;t=
[email-masked]&gt; wrote: <br> <br><div class=3D"ox-cc84e2b33b-WordSec=
tion1"><p class=3D"ox-cc84e2b33b-MsoNormal">110 mph in 4<sup>th</sup> OD i=
s only 4500 rpm.&nbsp; Not what I call =E2=80=9Ccrank shattering rpm=E2=80=
=9D.&nbsp; A stock TR3 won=E2=80=99t usually run that fast of course, but =
87mm liners were actually cheaper than 83s, back in the 70s.&nbsp; (I actu=
ally found a set that had been returned to Warshawski=E2=80=99s in Chicago=
, better known as JC Whitney, for even less than the usual price.)</p><p c=
lass=3D"ox-cc84e2b33b-MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ox-cc84e2b33b-MsoNo=
rmal">And I=E2=80=99ve run 4500 for literally hours without a problem.&nbs=
p; (Speed enforcement in the desert tends to be lax <span style=3D"font-fa=
mily: 'Segoe UI Emoji',sans-serif;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: 'Segoe =
UI Emoji',sans-serif;">=F0=9F=98=8A</span> )</p><p class=3D"ox-cc84e2b33b-=
MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ox-cc84e2b33b-MsoNormal">Sent from <a hre=
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0in 0in;"><p class=3D"ox-cc84e2b33b-MsoNormal" style=3D"border: none; padd=
ing: 0in;" data-mce-style=3D"border: none; padding: 0in;"><strong>From: </=
strong><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" onclick=3D"return false;" da=
ta-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">TERRY SMITH</a><br><strong>Sent=
: </strong>Tuesday, July 16, 2019 1:47 PM<br><strong>To: </strong><a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" onclick=3D"return false;" data-mce-href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]">Randall</a><br><strong>Cc: </strong><a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" onclick=3D"return false;" data-mce-href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]">Triumphs</a><br><strong>Subject: </strong>=
Re: [TR] MGA</p></div><p class=3D"ox-cc84e2b33b-MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p><s=
pan style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color=
: #333333;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',=
sans-serif; color: #333333;">That reminds me.&nbsp; When I say my TR3 "kee=
ps up with traffic," I'm referencing traffic on the freeway here (tollway,=
 rather) that clips along between 70 and 80 mph.&nbsp; I've been curious a=
bout the various cruising speeds and power performances of TR3's and their=
 competition back in the day, cruising that is without winding up to crank=
 shattering rpm's.&nbsp; Anybody familiar with that?&nbsp;</span></p></div=
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