Subject: Re: [TR] Stag, rover v 8

From: david hammond <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 13:50:14 -0700

Are there anybody out there who sells a conversion kit to put a rover v 8 into a stag?
David

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 7, 2019, at 12:54 PM, Frank Magnusson <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> All good questions.
> 
> Most U.S. Stags have factory A/C.  I don't recall the manufacturer but its straight out of detroit, so parts should be easy to get.  If a Stag doesn't have the factory a/c, it should be easy to enough to fit either an original unit, or one from Vintage Air or other supplier.  When I got my Stag, alot of the a/c system was missing, but I was able to find all of the parts either new or used and get it operational.  It works well and blows ice cold air.
> 
> Engine problems are still there on all years but as long as you are aware of the issues and make sure they are addressed, you'll be fine.  Two main problems - water pumps and timing chains, and both problems exacerbated by some poor quality parts on the market, but as long as you are careful who you buy from and check all the parts you get, you should be fine.  But, timing chains dont last very long, and you'll end up changing them more often than you'd think.
> 
> One other item is what gearbox do you want, automatic, manual, or manual with overdrive.  There are some clutch issues with the manual boxes similar to TR6 problems, but they are fairly easily fixable.
> 
> There are some engine conversions to a Rover V8, which fixes all of those issues; just depends what you want.  TR8 V8 conversion also.
> 
> Even with its issues, the Stag is really a neat car; fun to drive, turns heads, sounds awesome with the original V8, and has a/c and 4 seats.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> Frank
> '72 Stag
> 
> 
>> On Jul 7, 2019, at 1:00 PM, [email-masked] wrote:
>> 
>> Thinking of buying a Stag for SWMBO but it would require air conditioning.
>> Can AC be efficiently installed?  
>> 
>> I remember the deal about engine problems during the first couple of years,
>> is there a way to see if the remediation was performed if I find an early
>> car?  
>> 
>> After what year might I be safe in trusting the original engine is OK?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Launching off into the dark here, any direction for self-education would be
>> greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Bill B
>> 
>> TS30800L
> 
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From: Frank Magnusson <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 15:52:28 -0500

I believe there is or was at one time.  I had a neighbor of mine that converted his Stag to a Rover V8 with a kit he got in the UK.

Frank

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> On Jul 7, 2019, at 3:50 PM, david hammond <[email-masked]> wrote:
>

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Yes, I have heard good things about Vintage Air. They have several combinati=
ons of equipment, has anyone installed one of their systems?  If so which on=
e?  =20

I will also give them a call and see what they recommend. =20

Thanks to all who responded. =20

Best,
Bill

Sent from my DynaTAC 8000X

On Jul 7, 2019, at 9:01 PM, Glenn Merrell <[email-masked]>=
 wrote:

In the USA, try Vintage Aire for systems, parts and design support.

Glenn A. Merrell, CAP
ISA Certified Automation Professional

On Sun, Jul 7, 2019 at 2:50 PM -0600, "david hammond" <[email-masked]> w=
rote:

> Are there anybody out there who sells a conversion kit to put a rover v 8 i=
nto a stag?
> David
>=20
> Sent from my iPhone
>=20
> > On Jul 7, 2019, at 12:54 PM, Frank Magnusson  wrote:
> >=20
> > Hi Bill,
> >=20
> > All good questions.
> >=20
> > Most U.S. Stags have factory A/C.  I don't recall the manufacturer but i=
ts straight out of detroit, so parts should be easy to get.  If a Stag doesn=
't have the factory a/c, it should be easy to enough to fit either an origin=
al unit, or one from Vintage Air or other supplier.  When I got my Stag, alo=
t of the a/c system was missing, but I was able to find all of the parts eit=
her new or used and get it operational.  It works well and blows ice cold ai=
r.
> >=20
> > Engine problems are still there on all years but as long as you are awar=
e of the issues and make sure they are addressed, you'll be fine.  Two main p=
roblems - water pumps and timing chains, and both problems exacerbated by so=
me poor quality parts on the market, but as long as you are careful who you b=
uy from and check all the parts you get, you should be fine.  But, timing ch=
ains dont last very long, and you'll end up changing them more often than yo=
u'd think.
> >=20
> > One other item is what gearbox do you want, automatic, manual, or manual=
 with overdrive.  There are some clutch issues with the manual boxes similar=
 to TR6 problems, but they are fairly easily fixable.
> >=20
> > There are some engine conversions to a Rover V8, which fixes all of thos=
e issues; just depends what you want.  TR8 V8 conversion also.
> >=20
> > Even with its issues, the Stag is really a neat car; fun to drive, turns=
 heads, sounds awesome with the original V8, and has a/c and 4 seats.
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >>=20
> >> Thinking of buying a Stag for SWMBO but it would require air conditioni=
ng.
> >> Can AC be efficiently installed? =20
> >>=20
> >> I remember the deal about engine problems during the first couple of ye=
ars,
> >> is there a way to see if the remediation was performed if I find an ear=
ly
> >> car? =20
> >>=20
> >>=20
> >>=20
> >>=20
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d be
> >>=20
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<pre>Are there anybody out there who sells a conversion kit to put a rover v 8 into a stag?
David

Sent from my iPhone

&gt; On Jul 7, 2019, at 12:54 PM, Frank Magnusson <[email-masked]> wrote:
&gt; 
&gt; Hi Bill,
&gt; 
&gt; All good questions.
&gt; 
&gt; Most U.S. Stags have factory A/C.  I don't recall the manufacturer but its straight out of detroit, so parts should be easy to get.  If a Stag doesn't have the factory a/c, it should be easy to enough to fit either an original unit, or one from Vintage Air or other supplier.  When I got my Stag, alot of the a/c system was missing, but I was able to find all of the parts either new or used and get it operational.  It works well and blows ice cold air.
&gt; 
&gt; Engine problems are still there on all years but as long as you are aware of the issues and make sure they are addressed, you'll be fine.  Two main problems - water pumps and timing chains, and both problems exacerbated by some poor quality parts on the market, but as long as you are careful who you buy from and check all the parts you get, you should be fine.  But, timing chains dont last very long, and you'll end up changing them more often than you'd think.
&gt; 
&gt; One other item is what gearbox do you want, automatic, manual, or manual with overdrive.  There are some clutch issues with the manual boxes similar to TR6 problems, but they are fairly easily fixable.
&gt; 
&gt; There are some engine conversions to a Rover V8, which fixes all of those issues; just depends what you want.  TR8 V8 conversion also.
&gt; 
&gt; Even with its issues, the Stag is really a neat car; fun to drive, turns heads, sounds awesome with the original V8, and has a/c and 4 seats.
&gt; 
&gt; Hope this helps,
&gt; Frank
&gt; '72 Stag
&gt; 
&gt; 
&gt;&gt; On Jul 7, 2019, at 1:00 PM, <a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> wrote:
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; Thinking of buying a Stag for SWMBO but it would require air conditioning.
&gt;&gt; Can AC be efficiently installed?  
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; I remember the deal about engine problems during the first couple of years,
&gt;&gt; is there a way to see if the remediation was performed if I find an early
&gt;&gt; car?  
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; After what year might I be safe in trusting the original engine is OK?
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; Launching off into the dark here, any direction for self-education would be
&gt;&gt; greatly appreciated.
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; Best,
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; Bill B
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; TS30800L
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From: Bill Beecher <[email-masked]>
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Thank you Glenn, as I get a little farther down the road I may take you up o=
n those pictures. =20
=46rom all the comments this seems like a very doable install.=20
Cheers,
Bill

On Jul 9, 2019, at 10:30 AM, Glenn A. Merrell <controls@freelanceconsulting.=
net> wrote:

Bill,
=20
When I did my Stag on my Rover V8, I converted from the York Borg Warner pis=
ton compressor to a rotary.  I think I used a 5 cubic inch rotary which uses=
 about 2 hp compared to the York consumes almost 20 hp.
I used the stock evaporator box in the stag, stock expansion valve on the ev=
aporator, but converted to new barrier hoses and O ring seals.
There are adapters to go from the Expansion valve compression connection to O=
 ring seal type.  I also replaced the Condenser and dryer rated for 134A  th=
at all used O ring type connections.
=20
It was difficult, and after following the online advice of Vintage Air I fou=
nd an automotive AC supplier locally and sourced all the hose and connectors=
 and provided all the rest of the information I needed.
=20
Then I measured and fit each hoses in their location,, marked the orientatio=
ns on the hoes and connectors,  took the connectors and hoses back to the su=
pplier who swaged the connections to the new barrier hose for free since I b=
ought the hose and connectors from them.
=20
Vintage Air sells a wide range of adapter brackets, even an adapter bracket f=
or the Stag York aluminum  Bracket, but I found it was a stronger and less c=
ost solution to have a bracket custom fabricated from 3/8 steel plate to hol=
d the new rotary compressor after looking at the various brackets available o=
nline.
=20
I might have some photos, I=E2=80=99ll try to locate those.
Cheers!
=20
Glenn Merrell=20
+1 (303) 817-8559 mobile
aka StagByTriumph Garage (now on FaceBook)
Remember, =E2=80=9Cthe BEST trophies are: Miles on the Odometer; Stone chips=
 in the paint; and DEAD BUGS on the windscreen =E2=80=A6 with the occasional=
 smell of manure!=E2=80=9D
=20
=20
=20
From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Bill Be=
echer
Sent: Monday, July 8, 2019 10:45 PM
To: Glenn Merrell
Cc: [email-masked]; Frank Magnusson
Subject: Re: [TR] Stag, rover v 8
=20
Yes, I have heard good things about Vintage Air. They have several combinati=
ons of equipment, has anyone installed one of their systems?  If so which on=
e?  =20
=20
I will also give them a call and see what they recommend. =20
=20
Thanks to all who responded. =20
=20
Best,
Bill

Glenn A. Merrell, CAP

Are there anybody out there who sells a conversion kit to put a rover v 8 in=
to a stag?
David
=20
Sent from my iPhone
=20
> Most U.S. Stags have factory A/C.  I don't recall the manufacturer but its=
 straight out of detroit, so parts should be easy to get.  If a Stag doesn't=
 have the factory a/c, it should be easy to enough to fit either an original=
 unit, or one from Vintage Air or other supplier.  When I got my Stag, alot o=
f the a/c system was missing, but I was able to find all of the parts either=
 new or used and get it operational.  It works well and blows ice cold air.
>=20
> Engine problems are still there on all years but as long as you are aware o=
f the issues and make sure they are addressed, you'll be fine.  Two main pro=
blems - water pumps and timing chains, and both problems exacerbated by some=
 poor quality parts on the market, but as long as you are careful who you bu=
y from and check all the parts you get, you should be fine.  But, timing cha=
ins dont last very long, and you'll end up changing them more often than you=
'd think.
>=20
> One other item is what gearbox do you want, automatic, manual, or manual w=
ith overdrive.  There are some clutch issues with the manual boxes similar t=
o TR6 problems, but they are fairly easily fixable.
>=20
> There are some engine conversions to a Rover V8, which fixes all of those i=
ssues; just depends what you want.  TR8 V8 conversion also.
>=20
> Even with its issues, the Stag is really a neat car; fun to drive, turns h=
eads, sounds awesome with the original V8, and has a/c and 4 seats.
>> Thinking of buying a Stag for SWMBO but it would require air conditioning=
.
>> I remember the deal about engine problems during the first couple of year=
s,
>> is there a way to see if the remediation was performed if I find an early=

>> Launching off into the dark here, any direction for self-education would b=
e
ve
>=20
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stall.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cheers,</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Bill</div><=
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me photos, I=E2=80=99ll try to locate those.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Cheers!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Glenn Merrell&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">+1 (303) 817-8559 mobil=
e<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0p=
t;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">aka S=
tagByTriumph Garage (<i>now on FaceBook</i>)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Remember, =E2=80=9Cthe BEST trophies a=
re: Miles on the Odometer; Stone chips in the paint; and DEAD BUGS on the wi=
ndscreen =E2=80=A6 with the occasional smell of manure!=E2=80=9D<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family=
:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>=
</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-famil=
y:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p=
></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a name=3D"_MailEndCompose"><span style=3D=
"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;col=
or:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></a></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;b=
order-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Triumphs [<a href=3D"mailto:tr=
[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] <=
b>On Behalf Of </b>Bill Beecher<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 8, 2019 10:45 P=
M<br><b>To:</b> Glenn Merrell<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox=
.team.net">[email-masked]</a>; Frank Magnusson<br><b>Subject:</b> R=
e: [TR] Stag, rover v 8<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Yes, I have heard good thing=
s about Vintage Air. They have several combinations of equipment, has anyone=
 installed one of their systems? &nbsp;If so which one? &nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o=
:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">I will also give them a call and see what they recommend. &nbsp;=
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks to all who responded. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">Best,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D=
"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Bill<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent f=
rom my DynaTAC 8000X<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D=
"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On Jul 7, 2019, at 9:01 PM, Glenn Merrell &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">controls@freelanceconsulting=
.net</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" sty=
le=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">In the USA, try Vintage Ai=
re for systems, parts and design support.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Glenn A. Merrell, CAP<o:p></=
o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11=
.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">ISA C=
ertified Automation Professional<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Sun, Jul 7, 2019 at 2:50 P=
M -0600, "david hammond" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D=
"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><pre>Are there=
 anybody out there who sells a conversion kit to put a rover v 8 into a stag=
?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>David<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre><pr=
e>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre><pre>&gt; O=
n Jul 7, 2019, at 12:54 PM, Frank Magnusson &nbsp;wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre><pr=
e>&gt; <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&gt; Hi Bill,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&gt; <o:p></=
o:p></pre><pre>&gt; All good questions.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&gt; <o:p></o:p=
></pre><pre>&gt; Most U.S. Stags have factory A/C.&nbsp; I don't recall the m=
anufacturer but its straight out of detroit, so parts should be easy to get.=
&nbsp; If a Stag doesn't have the factory a/c, it should be easy to enough t=
o fit either an original unit, or one from Vintage Air or other supplier.&nb=
sp; When I got my Stag, alot of the a/c system was missing, but I was able t=
o find all of the parts either new or used and get it operational.&nbsp; It w=
orks well and blows ice cold air.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&gt; <o:p></o:p></pre=
><pre>&gt; Engine problems are still there on all years but as long as you a=
re aware of the issues and make sure they are addressed, you'll be fine.&nbs=
p; Two main problems - water pumps and timing chains, and both problems exac=
erbated by some poor quality parts on the market, but as long as you are car=
eful who you buy from and check all the parts you get, you should be fine.&n=
bsp; But, timing chains dont last very long, and you'll end up changing them=
 more often than you'd think.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&gt; <o:p></o:p></pre><pr=
e>&gt; One other item is what gearbox do you want, automatic, manual, or man=
ual with overdrive.&nbsp; There are some clutch issues with the manual boxes=
 similar to TR6 problems, but they are fairly easily fixable.<o:p></o:p></pr=
e><pre>&gt; <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&gt; There are some engine conversions to a=
 Rover V8, which fixes all of those issues; just depends what you want.&nbsp=
; TR8 V8 conversion also.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&gt; <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&g=
t; Even with its issues, the Stag is really a neat car; fun to drive, turns h=
eads, sounds awesome with the original V8, and has a/c and 4 seats.<o:p></o:=
p></pre><pre>&gt; <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&gt; Hope this helps,<o:p></o:p></pr=
e><pre>&gt; Frank<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&gt; '72 Stag<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&g=
t; <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&gt; <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&gt;&gt; On Jul 7, 2019,=
 at 1:00 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">triumphs-req=
[email-masked]</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&gt;&gt; <o:p></o:p></pr=
e><pre>&gt;&gt; Thinking of buying a Stag for SWMBO but it would require air=
 conditioning.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&gt;&gt; Can AC be efficiently installed=
?&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&gt;&gt; <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&gt;&gt; I reme=
mber the deal about engine problems during the first couple of years,<o:p></=
o:p></pre><pre>&gt;&gt; is there a way to see if the remediation was perform=
ed if I find an early<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&gt;&gt; car?&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></=
pre><pre>&gt;&gt; <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&gt;&gt; After what year might I be s=
afe in trusting the original engine is OK?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&gt;&gt; <o:=
p></o:p></pre><pre>&gt;&gt; <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&gt;&gt; <o:p></o:p></pre>=
<pre>&gt;&gt; Launching off into the dark here, any direction for self-educa=
tion would be<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&gt;&gt; greatly appreciated.<o:p></o:p><=
/pre><pre>&gt;&gt; <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&gt;&gt; <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&gt;=
&gt; <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&gt;&gt; Best,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&gt;&gt; <o:p=
></o:p></pre><pre>&gt;&gt; Bill B<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&gt;&gt; <o:p></o:p><=
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From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 09:45:46 -0700

On 7/9/19 9:33 AM, Bill Beecher wrote:
> Thank you Glenn, as I get a little farther down the road I may take 
> you up on those pictures.
> From all the comments this seems like a very doable install.
> Cheers,
> Bill
>
I understand that a fair number of Stags ended up with small block Ford 
engines and gearboxes.
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From: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 12:09:03 -0500

That would make sense. Also read that the TR6 Motor is a much better fit in the engine bay.  Of course, not planning to get into a re-power situation but a nice little 289 would be an interesting option. .  
Bill

On Jul 9, 2019, at 11:45 AM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Thank you Glenn, as I get a little farther down the road I may take you up on those pictures.
I understand that a fair number of Stags ended up with small block Ford engines and gearboxes.
** [email-masked] **

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From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 11:16:36 -0700

> That would make sense. Also read that the TR6 Motor is a much better fit in the engine bay.  Of course, not planning to get into a re-power situation but a nice little 289 would be an interesting o…

A 302 has the same dimensions and going to EFI is a fuel saver. people 
picked the small block Ford because it is narrower than the small block 
Chevy. Nice thing about a common US engine is cheaper parts at any auto 
parts store and much better dependability than the Rover V8. Also, the 
quality of replacement parts for the Rover V8 is low. Range Rover 
Classic folks are complaining about that all the time.

TeriAnn