Subject: Re: [TR] MGA

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Seems to me that MGA has always held a slight edge in price=2E Why, I have =
no idea=2E Maybe it's the aluminum bonnet paired with the plywood floors :)

Many years ago, I actually lost a friend because he wanted a car "like min=
e" and I mentioned an MGA for sale=2E

I suspect the real reason has to do with the age-old question "Hey, buddy,=
 Izzat a MG?" MG has the brand recognition reaching back to WWII=2E It's be=
come synonymous with LBC (for some people)=2E
-- Randall

On 15 July 2019 18:05:37 GMT-05:00, TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast=2Enet> wr=
ote:
>Just curious=2E  Looking at Craigslist cars, I'm seeing MGA's going for
>more than comparable TR3's=2E  Maybe it's just in NH, but it does seem
>strange that such an underpowered car as the MGA (what, 68 hp?),
>"triumphs" in price over TR3's (at what, 100 hp?)=2E  Plus the TR3 has
>bug-eyes and more muscular swooping lines like a cheetah=2E=20
>
>
>Not to belittle the MGA=2E  It's a cool car=2E  But TR's keep up with
>modern traffick, and then some=2E=20
>
>
>Terry Smith, '59 TR3A
>
>New Hampshire

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=2E Why, I have no idea=2E Maybe it's the aluminum bonnet paired with the p=
lywood floors :)<br><br>Many years ago, I actually lost a friend because he=
 wanted a car "like mine" and I mentioned an MGA for sale=2E<br><br>I suspe=
ct the real reason has to do with the age-old question "Hey, buddy, Izzat a=
 MG?" MG has the brand recognition reaching back to WWII=2E It's become syn=
onymous with LBC (for some people)=2E<br>-- Randall<br><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote">On 15 July 2019 18:05:37 GMT-05:00, TERRY SMITH &lt;terryrs@comc=
ast=2Enet&gt; wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt =
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r: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Just curious=2E&nbsp; Looking at Craigslist cars, I'm =
seeing MGA's going for more than comparable TR3's=2E&nbsp; Maybe it's just =
in NH, but it does seem strange that such an underpowered car as the MGA (w=
hat, 68 hp?), "triumphs" in price over TR3's (at what, 100 hp?)=2E&nbsp; Pl=
us the TR3 has bug-eyes and more muscular swooping lines like a cheetah=2E&=
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s-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font=
-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Not to belitt=
le the MGA=2E&nbsp; It's a cool car=2E&nbsp; But TR's keep up with modern t=
raffick, and then some=2E&nbsp; <br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-f=
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e=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: rgb(5=
1, 51, 51);">Terry Smith, '59 TR3A<br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font=
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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 00:56:41 +0000 (UTC)

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 Well, yeah, but....um.... the MGA has wooden floorboards.
Go figure.=C2=A0 There is no rhyme or reason.=C2=A0 Just what people want.
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Dave=20

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From: TERRY SMITH <[email-masked]>
To: triumphs <[email-masked]>
Sent: Mon, Jul 15, 2019 6:05 pm
Subject: [TR] MGA

 Just curious.=C2=A0 Looking at Craigslist cars, I'm seeing MGA's going for=
 more than comparable TR3's.=C2=A0 Maybe it's just in NH, but it does seem =
strange that such an underpowered car as the MGA (what, 68 hp?), "triumphs"=
 in price over TR3's (at what, 100 hp?).=C2=A0 Plus the TR3 has bug-eyes an=
d more muscular swooping lines like a cheetah.=C2=A0=20

Not to belittle the MGA.=C2=A0 It's a cool car.=C2=A0 But TR's keep up with=
 modern traffick, and then some.=C2=A0=20

Terry Smith, '59 TR3A
New Hampshire

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<div> <font size="3">Well, yeah, but....um.... the MGA has wooden floorboards.</font></div>

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<div><font size="3">Go figure.&nbsp; There is no rhyme or reason.&nbsp; Just what people want.</font><br>
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From: TERRY SMITH &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Mon, Jul 15, 2019 6:05 pm<br>
Subject: [TR] MGA<br>
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<div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);">Just curious.&nbsp; Looking at Craigslist cars, I'm seeing MGA's going for more than comparable TR3's.&nbsp; Maybe it's just in NH, but it does seem strange that such an underpowered car as the MGA (what, 68 hp?), "triumphs" in price over TR3's (at what, 100 hp?).&nbsp; Plus the TR3 has bug-eyes and more muscular swooping lines like a cheetah.&nbsp; <br>
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<div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);">Not to belittle the MGA.&nbsp; It's a cool car.&nbsp; But TR's keep up with modern traffick, and then some.&nbsp; <br>
</div>

<div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);"><br>
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<div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);">Terry Smith, '59 TR3A<br>
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<div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);">New Hampshire<br>
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From: Greg Lemon <[email-masked]>
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Ok, I'll bite, I have never had either car, but have driven many including
autocrossing an MGA and cross country trips in a TR3.  First of all the 88
hp vs. 100 for the Triumph seems like a lot more than 12 hp.  The TRactor
engine has gobs more torque and just pulls a lot stronger, especially from
lower RPM.

As all TR fans know there are very few experiences like driving a TR3, you
feel very connected to the car, the road, and your environment.  All things
are relative, and though an MGA is still light years more connected than a
modern car it is a GT cruiser compared to the rip roaring TR3, the chassis
also feels much more sophisticated, primarily because of the rack and
pinion steering but also a more compliant ride (once again all things being
relative).

Styling is a matter of taste, but most would agree the MG is prettier if
not better.  However, my theory on price difference is that more MGAs tend
to restored to better than new museum pieces, and treated as such, while
more TRs end up being "drivers" with a few warts and modifications for
performance and/or reliability, and we all know which type of car brings
more money.

I know of plenty of exceptions to this theory and you all probably do too,
but that is my story and I will stick with it.

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 7:38 PM Randall <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Seems to me that MGA has always held a slight edge in price. Why, I have
> no idea. Maybe it's the aluminum bonnet paired with the plywood floors :)
>
> Many years ago, I actually lost a friend because he wanted a car "like
> mine" and I mentioned an MGA for sale.
>
> I suspect the real reason has to do with the age-old question "Hey, buddy,
> Izzat a MG?" MG has the brand recognition reaching back to WWII. It's
> become synonymous with LBC (for some people).
> -- Randall
>
> On 15 July 2019 18:05:37 GMT-05:00, TERRY SMITH <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>>
>> Just curious.  Looking at Craigslist cars, I'm seeing MGA's going for
>> more than comparable TR3's.  Maybe it's just in NH, but it does seem
>> strange that such an underpowered car as the MGA (what, 68 hp?), "triumphs"
>> in price over TR3's (at what, 100 hp?).  Plus the TR3 has bug-eyes and more
>> muscular swooping lines like a cheetah.
>>
>>
>> Not to belittle the MGA.  It's a cool car.  But TR's keep up with modern
>> traffick, and then some.
>>
>>
>> Terry Smith, '59 TR3A
>>
>> New Hampshire
>>
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto">Ok, I&#39;ll bite, I have never had eit=
her car, but have driven many including autocrossing an MGA and cross count=
ry trips in a TR3.=C2=A0 First of all the 88 hp vs. 100 for the Triumph see=
ms like a lot more than 12 hp.=C2=A0 The TRactor engine has gobs more torqu=
e and just pulls a lot stronger, especially from lower RPM.</div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">As all TR fans know there are very fe=
w experiences like driving a TR3, you feel very connected to the car, the r=
oad, and your environment.=C2=A0 All things are relative, and though an MGA=
 is still light years more connected than a modern car it is a GT cruiser c=
ompared to the rip roaring TR3, the chassis also feels much more sophistica=
ted, primarily because of the rack and pinion steering but also a more comp=
liant ride (once again all things being relative).=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div di=
r=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Styling is a matter of taste, but mo=
st would agree the MG is prettier if not better.=C2=A0 However, my theory o=
n price difference is that more MGAs tend to restored to better than new mu=
seum pieces, and treated as such, while more TRs end up being &quot;drivers=
&quot; with a few warts and modifications for performance and/or reliabilit=
y, and we all know which type of car brings more money.</div><div dir=3D"au=
to"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I know of plenty of exceptions to this theo=
ry and you all probably do too, but that is my story and I will stick with =
it.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Greg Lemon</div><div=
 dir=3D"auto">TR250</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cl=
ass=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 7:38 PM Randall &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">tr3driver@ca.=
rr.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
   =20
<div>Seems to me that MGA has always held a slight edge in price. Why, I ha=
ve no idea. Maybe it&#39;s the aluminum bonnet paired with the plywood floo=
rs :)<br><br>Many years ago, I actually lost a friend because he wanted a c=
ar &quot;like mine&quot; and I mentioned an MGA for sale.<br><br>I suspect =
the real reason has to do with the age-old question &quot;Hey, buddy, Izzat=
 a MG?&quot; MG has the brand recognition reaching back to WWII. It&#39;s b=
ecome synonymous with LBC (for some people).<br>-- Randall<br><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote">On 15 July 2019 18:05:37 GMT-05:00, TERRY SMITH &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_=
blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pa=
dding-left:1ex">
<p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb=
(51,51,51)">Just curious.=C2=A0 Looking at Craigslist cars, I&#39;m seeing =
MGA&#39;s going for more than comparable TR3&#39;s.=C2=A0 Maybe it&#39;s ju=
st in NH, but it does seem strange that such an underpowered car as the MGA=
 (what, 68 hp?), &quot;triumphs&quot; in price over TR3&#39;s (at what, 100=
 hp?).=C2=A0 Plus the TR3 has bug-eyes and more muscular swooping lines lik=
e a cheetah.=C2=A0 <br></p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica=
,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;f=
ont-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Not to belittle =
the MGA.=C2=A0 It&#39;s a cool car.=C2=A0 But TR&#39;s keep up with modern =
traffick, and then some.=C2=A0 <br></p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-fami=
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y Smith, &#39;59 TR3A<br></p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helveti=
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Many many years ago, I took a road trip in my TR3A, along with a buddy in a=
n MGA.  I don=E2=80=99t think either of us even owned a top; let alone had =
room for it along with the suitcases and so on.

Driving down US 1 on the east coast, we saw a huge thunderstorm heading our=
 way.  I apologized to my friend, then floored the TR and like the old song=
, wound it up to 110, knowing his MG wouldn=E2=80=99t top 85 on a good day =
(maybe downhill with a tail wind).  I stayed dry, guess who got soaked!

We=E2=80=99re still good friends after all these years, but he gave up on t=
he MG and bought an Amphicar instead.=20

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From: TERRY SMITH <[email-masked]>
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That reminds me.  When I say my TR3 "keeps up with traffic," I'm referencin=
g traffic on the freeway here (tollway, rather) that clips along between 70=
 and 80 mph.  I've been curious about the various cruising speeds and power=
 performances of TR3's and their competition back in the day, cruising that=
 is without winding up to crank shattering rpm's.  Anybody familiar with th=
at?=20

Relative aesthetics of these old cars are, of course, subjective.  Performa=
nce, though, is math.=20

Terry Smith '59 TR3A

New Hampshire

> On July 16, 2019 at 12:55 PM Randall <[email-masked]> wrote:
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d song, wound it up to 110, knowing his MG wouldn=E2=80=99t top 85 on a goo=
d day (maybe downhill with a tail wind).  I stayed dry, guess who got soake=
d!
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#34;keeps up with traffic,&#34; I&#39;m referencing traffic on the freeway =
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ve been curious about the various cruising speeds and power performances of=
 TR3&#39;s and their competition back in the day, cruising that is without =
winding up to crank shattering rpm&#39;s.&#160; Anybody familiar with that?=
&#160; <br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sa=
ns-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; fon=
t-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Relative aes=
thetics of these old cars are, of course, subjective.&#160; Performance, th=
ough, is math.&#160; <br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helv=
etica,arial,sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><br></p><p style=3D"font-s=
ize: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);=
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 helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">New Hampshire<br></p>=
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On July 16, 2019 at 12:55 PM Randall &#60;tr3driv=
[email-masked]&#62; wrote: <br> <br><div class=3D"ox-b00a660ed8-WordSection1"=
><p class=3D"ox-b00a660ed8-MsoNormal">Many many years ago, I took a road tr=
ip in my TR3A, along with a buddy in an MGA.&#160; I don&#8217;t think eith=
er of us even owned a top; let alone had room for it along with the suitcas=
es and so on.</p><p class=3D"ox-b00a660ed8-MsoNormal">&#160;</p><p class=3D=
"ox-b00a660ed8-MsoNormal">Driving down US 1 on the east coast, we saw a hug=
e thunderstorm heading our way.&#160; I apologized to my friend, then floor=
ed the TR and like the old song, wound it up to 110, knowing his MG wouldn&=
#8217;t top 85 on a good day (maybe downhill with a tail wind).&#160; I sta=
yed dry, guess who got soaked!</p><p class=3D"ox-b00a660ed8-MsoNormal">&#16=
0;</p><p class=3D"ox-b00a660ed8-MsoNormal">We&#8217;re still good friends a=
fter all these years, but he gave up on the MG and bought an Amphicar inste=
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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 16:40:55 -0500

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110 mph in 4th OD is only 4500 rpm.  Not what I call =E2=80=9Ccrank shatter=
ing rpm=E2=80=9D.  A stock TR3 won=E2=80=99t usually run that fast of cours=
e, but 87mm liners were actually cheaper than 83s, back in the 70s.  (I act=
ually found a set that had been returned to Warshawski=E2=80=99s in Chicago=
, better known as JC Whitney, for even less than the usual price.)

And I=E2=80=99ve run 4500 for literally hours without a problem.  (Speed en=
forcement in the desert tends to be lax =F0=9F=98=8A )

From: TERRY SMITH
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 1:47 PM
To: Randall
Cc: Triumphs
Subject: Re: [TR] MGA

That reminds me.=C2=A0 When I say my TR3 "keeps up with traffic," I'm refer=
encing traffic on the freeway here (tollway, rather) that clips along betwe=
en 70 and 80 mph.=C2=A0 I've been curious about the various cruising speeds=
 and power performances of TR3's and their competition back in the day, cru=
ising that is without winding up to crank shattering rpm's.=C2=A0 Anybody f=
amiliar with that?=C2=A0

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ss=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>110 mph in 4<sup>th</sup> OD is only=
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=A0 A stock TR3 won=E2=80=99t usually run that fast of course, but 87mm lin=
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or literally hours without a problem.=C2=A0 (Speed enforcement in the deser=
t tends to be lax <span style=3D'font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif'>&=
#128522;</span> )</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DM=
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ne;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">TERRY S=
MITH</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, July 16, 2019 1:47 PM<br><b>To: </b><a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Randall</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]">Triumphs</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [TR] MGA</p=
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e:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'>That reminds me.=
&nbsp; When I say my TR3 &quot;keeps up with traffic,&quot; I'm referencing=
 traffic on the freeway here (tollway, rather) that clips along between 70 =
and 80 mph.&nbsp; I've been curious about the various cruising speeds and p=
ower performances of TR3's and their competition back in the day, cruising =
that is without winding up to crank shattering rpm's.&nbsp; Anybody familia=
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From: TERRY SMITH <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 19:48:25 -0400 (EDT)

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Hmmm.  So looking quickly other street cars of the time, a 1959 Porsche 356=
 A had a 1.6 liter engine; I don't know about the Porsche "speedster" or ev=
en if it was different, other than James Dean died in one.  The 1959 MGA ha=
d a 1.6 liter.  The Jaguar XK 150 had a 3.8 liter engine.  Karmann Ghia had=
 between a 1.1 and 1.3 liter engine.  As far as I can tell the Fiat 850 sta=
rted in 1964, with an engine a single strong man could seemingly lift.  The=
 Sunbeam Alpine was a 1.5 liter.  The Austin Martin DB4 was 3.7 liters.  Co=
uldn't quickly find the big Healeys four and six cylinder engines.  The Bug=
eye Sprite was a 0.948 liter; my sister called it her putt-putt.  Triumphs =
and Morgans, of course, ran the same 2 liter engine.

All this said, and certainly subject to any corrections you might have, I r=
emain unsure how Triumphs stacked up in races against these.  Anybody?

Terry

> On July 16, 2019 at 5:40 PM Randall <[email-masked]> wrote:
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>=20
>     110 mph in 4th OD is only 4500 rpm.  Not what I call =E2=80=9Ccrank s=
hattering rpm=E2=80=9D.  A stock TR3 won=E2=80=99t usually run that fast of=
 course, but 87mm liners were actually cheaper than 83s, back in the 70s.  =
(I actually found a set that had been returned to Warshawski=E2=80=99s in C=
hicago, better known as JC Whitney, for even less than the usual price.)
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>     =20
>=20
>     And I=E2=80=99ve run 4500 for literally hours without a problem.  (Sp=
eed enforcement in the desert tends to be lax =F0=9F=98=8A )
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>     =20
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>     From: TERRY SMITH mailto:[email-masked]
>     To: Randall mailto:[email-masked]
>     Cc: Triumphs mailto:[email-masked]
>     Subject: Re: [TR] MGA
>=20
>     =20
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>     That reminds me.  When I say my TR3 "keeps up with traffic," I'm refe=
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een 70 and 80 mph.  I've been curious about the various cruising speeds and=
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</head><body><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans=
-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Hmmm.&#160; So looking quickly other stree=
t cars of the time, a 1959 Porsche 356 A had a 1.6 liter engine; I don&#39;=
t know about the Porsche &#34;speedster&#34; or even if it was different, o=
ther than James Dean died in one.&#160; The 1959 MGA had a 1.6 liter.&#160;=
 The Jaguar XK 150 had a 3.8 liter engine.&#160; Karmann Ghia had between a=
 1.1 and 1.3 liter engine.&#160; As far as I can tell the Fiat 850 started =
in 1964, with an engine a single strong man could seemingly lift.&#160; The=
 Sunbeam Alpine was a 1.5 liter.&#160; The Austin Martin DB4 was 3.7 liters=
.&#160; Couldn&#39;t quickly find the big Healeys four and six cylinder eng=
ines.&#160; The Bugeye Sprite was a 0.948 liter; my sister called it her pu=
tt-putt.&#160; Triumphs and Morgans, of course, ran the same 2 liter engine=
.<br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-ser=
if; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-fami=
ly: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">All this said, and=
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al,sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Terry<br></p><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te">On July 16, 2019 at 5:40 PM Randall &#60;[email-masked]&#62; wrote=
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33b-MsoNormal">110 mph in 4<sup>th</sup> OD is only 4500 rpm.&#160; Not wha=
t I call &#8220;crank shattering rpm&#8221;.&#160; A stock TR3 won&#8217;t =
usually run that fast of course, but 87mm liners were actually cheaper than=
 83s, back in the 70s.&#160; (I actually found a set that had been returned=
 to Warshawski&#8217;s in Chicago, better known as JC Whitney, for even les=
s than the usual price.)</p><p class=3D"ox-cc84e2b33b-MsoNormal">&#160;</p>=
<p class=3D"ox-cc84e2b33b-MsoNormal">And I&#8217;ve run 4500 for literally =
hours without a problem.&#160; (Speed enforcement in the desert tends to be=
 lax <span style=3D"font-family: 'Segoe UI Emoji',sans-serif;">=F0=9F=98=8A=
</span> )</p><p class=3D"ox-cc84e2b33b-MsoNormal">&#160;</p><p class=3D"ox-=
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=3D"border: none; padding: 0in;"><strong>From: </strong><a href=3D"mailto:t=
[email-masked]">TERRY SMITH</a><br><strong>Sent: </strong>Tuesday, July=
 16, 2019 1:47 PM<br><strong>To: </strong><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
.com">Randall</a><br><strong>Cc: </strong><a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.=
team.net">Triumphs</a><br><strong>Subject: </strong>Re: [TR] MGA</p></div><=
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12.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #333333;">That reminds =
me.&#160; When I say my TR3 &#34;keeps up with traffic,&#34; I&#39;m refere=
ncing traffic on the freeway here (tollway, rather) that clips along betwee=
n 70 and 80 mph.&#160; I&#39;ve been curious about the various cruising spe=
eds and power performances of TR3&#39;s and their competition back in the d=
ay, cruising that is without winding up to crank shattering rpm&#39;s.&#160=
; Anybody familiar with that?&#160;</span></p></div></blockquote><p style=
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From: Frank Fisher <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 00:13:57 +0000 (UTC)

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 but he gave up on the MG and bought an Amphicar instead.

into the fire as the saying goes

frank

    On Tuesday, July 16, 2019, 09:58:57 AM PDT, Randall <[email-masked]=
m> wrote: =20
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Many many years ago, I took a road trip in my TR3A, along with a buddy in a=
n MGA.=C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99t think either of us even owned a top; let alone=
 had room for it along with the suitcases and so on.

 =C2=A0

Driving down US 1 on the east coast, we saw a huge thunderstorm heading our=
 way.=C2=A0 I apologized to my friend, then floored the TR and like the old=
 song, wound it up to 110, knowing his MG wouldn=E2=80=99t top 85 on a good=
 day (maybe downhill with a tail wind).=C2=A0 I stayed dry, guess who got s=
oaked!

 =C2=A0

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777MsoNormal">Many many years ago, I took a road trip in my TR3A, along wit=
h a buddy in an MGA.&nbsp; I don=E2=80=99t think either of us even owned a =
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ass=3D"ydp70008a2byiv3771189777MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydp70008a2=
byiv3771189777MsoNormal">Driving down US 1 on the east coast, we saw a huge=
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=E2=80=99t top 85 on a good day (maybe downhill with a tail wind).&nbsp; I =
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