Subject: [TR] Radiator Shroud

From: TERRY SMITH <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 21:44:23 -0400 (EDT)

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When I restored the '3, I put in the usual cardboard shroud.  It lasted--I don't know--maybe three years?  Got caught several times in hard rain.  Next, I bought another cardboard shroud, but this time I used the plastic from a garage sale shower wall.  It lasted--I don't know--maybe five years, then cracked apart. 

While installing a new electric fan, I took the time while I was in there to use the cardboard shroud to trace out a shroud using this time a floor mat I'd had around that goes underneath a chair on a hardwood floor (no little spikes on the bottom).  In this heat, the floor mat was entirely flexible and bent easily, though it won't at lower temps.  Couple of screws to hold it down and done is done.

Looking forward to seeing how it does.  Gotta be better than cardboard. 

Meanwhile, with all these car mods, I'm thinking I could have been an engineer.  Just needed two things:  1)  more brains; and 3) more gray matter....

:o)

Terry Smith, '59 TR3A

New Hampshire

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</head><body><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans=
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sual cardboard shroud.&#160; It lasted--I don&#39;t know--maybe three years=
?&#160; Got caught several times in hard rain.&#160; Next, I bought another=
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t; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">While =
installing a new electric fan, I took the time while I was in there to use =
the cardboard shroud to trace out a shroud using this time a floor mat I&#3=
9;d had around that goes underneath a chair on a hardwood floor (no little =
spikes on the bottom).&#160; In this heat, the floor mat was entirely flexi=
ble and bent easily, though it won&#39;t at lower temps.&#160; Couple of sc=
rews to hold it down and done is done.<br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; =
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p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color:=
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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 11:43:13 +0000 (UTC)

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although possibly with more risk of radiator damage in a small bump
 The pre-58 TR3's had just such a feature as part of the nose sheetmetal fr=
om the outset.=C2=A0 And since there is a bottom shelf there already the ad=
dition of these doesn't seem to me to add appreciably to the risk to the ra=
diator.

And you're right, they do look like they could be fabricated by a rank amat=
eur with access to a sheetmetal brake such as myself.=C2=A0 But then, my 57=
 doesn't need need these since it came from the factory with sheetmetal duc=
twork right up the sides of the radiator.=C2=A0 But I'm pretty proud of the=
 sheetmetal fan shroud I made for the TR6.
Thanks for sharing.
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Dave=20

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-----Original Message-----
From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]>
To: TERRY SMITH <[email-masked]>
Cc: triumphs <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wed, Jul 24, 2019 9:45 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Radiator Shroud

VHP 529, an Apple Green ex-works TR3A, is owned by a friend of mine in the =
UK.=C2=A0 (He just returned from the 2019 TR Register Li=C3=A8ge-Brescia-Li=
=C3=A8ge Rally, for those who have followed that -- in fact there were seve=
ral American sidescreen cars in Europe for that event, possibly corresponde=
nts on here?)https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-jR7PQ3n/0/bb5ff095/O/i-jR7=
PQ3n.jpg

The car has original works competition aluminum air deflectors inside the s=
hroud.=C2=A0 I've always liked these -- seems like a better design than the=
 crappy paperboard production version, although possibly with more risk of =
radiator damage in a small bump than with cardboard.=C2=A0 They don't look =
like they'd be hard to fab were one so inclined.https://photos.smugmug.com/=
photos/i-hxbzKSs/0/6c5a7e69/O/i-hxbzKSs.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-mPG4VQX/0/0e755b25/O/i-mPG4VQX.jpg

Don1962 TR3B TSF202L

On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 8:48 PM TERRY SMITH <[email-masked]> wrote:

 When I restored the '3, I put in the usual cardboard shroud.=C2=A0 It last=
ed--I don't know--maybe three years?=C2=A0 Got caught several times in hard=
 rain.=C2=A0 Next, I bought another cardboard shroud, but this time I used =
the plastic from a garage sale shower wall.=C2=A0 It lasted--I don't know--=
maybe five years, then cracked apart.=C2=A0=20

While installing a new electric fan, I took the time while I was in there t=
o use the cardboard shroud to trace out a shroud using this time a floor ma=
t I'd had around that goes underneath a chair on a hardwood floor (no littl=
e spikes on the bottom).=C2=A0 In this heat, the floor mat was entirely fle=
xible and bent easily, though it won't at lower temps.=C2=A0 Couple of scre=
ws to hold it down and done is done.

Looking forward to seeing how it does.=C2=A0 Gotta be better than cardboard=
.=C2=A0=20
Meanwhile, with all these car mods, I'm thinking I could have been an engin=
eer.=C2=A0 Just needed two things:=C2=A0 1)=C2=A0 more brains; and 3) more =
gray matter....

:o)
Terry Smith, '59 TR3A
New Hampshire

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kquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid blue; padding-left: 3px;">although p=
ossibly with more risk of radiator damage in a small bump</blockquote></div=

<div>  <font size=3D"3">The pre-58 TR3's had just such a feature as part of=
 the nose sheetmetal from the outset.&nbsp; And since there is a bottom she=
lf there already the addition of these doesn't seem to me to add appreciabl=
y to the risk to the radiator.<br>
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</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">And you're right, they do look like they could be fab=
ricated by a rank amateur with access to a sheetmetal brake such as myself.=
&nbsp; But then, my 57 doesn't need need these since it came from the facto=
ry with sheetmetal ductwork right up the sides of the radiator.&nbsp; But I=
'm pretty proud of the sheetmetal fan shroud I made for the TR6.</font></di=
v>

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<div><font size=3D"3">Thanks for sharing.<br>
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<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
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Original Message-----<br>
From: Don Hiscock &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: TERRY SMITH &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Wed, Jul 24, 2019 9:45 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] Radiator Shroud<br>
<br>

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<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">VHP 529, an Apple Green ex-works TR3A, is owned by a frien=
d of mine in the UK.&nbsp; (He just returned from the 2019 TR Register Li=
=C3=A8ge-Brescia-Li=C3=A8ge Rally, for those who have followed that -- in f=
act there were several American sidescreen cars in Europe for that event, p=
ossibly correspondents on here?)
<div><a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-jR7PQ3n/0/bb5ff095/O/i-jR7PQ3n.jpg"=
>https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-jR7PQ3n/0/bb5ff095/O/i-jR7PQ3n.jpg</a>=
<br clear=3D"none"></div>

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<div>The car has original works competition aluminum air deflectors inside =
the shroud.&nbsp; I've always liked these -- seems like a better design tha=
n the crappy paperboard production version, although possibly with more ris=
k of radiator damage in a small bump than with cardboard.&nbsp; They don't =
look like they'd be hard to fab were one so inclined.</div>

<div><a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-hxbzKSs/0/6c5a7e69/O/i-hxbzKSs.jpg"=
>https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-hxbzKSs/0/6c5a7e69/O/i-hxbzKSs.jpg</a>=
<br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div><a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-mPG4VQX/0/0e755b25/O/i-mPG4VQX.jpg"=
>https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-mPG4VQX/0/0e755b25/O/i-mPG4VQX.jpg</a>=
<br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Don</div>

<div>1962 TR3B TSF202L</div>

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<div class=3D"yiv9216344347gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at =
8:48 PM TERRY SMITH &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymail=
to=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:terryrs@=
comcast.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div>
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<div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51);">When I restored the '3, I put in the usual cardboard shrou=
d.&nbsp; It lasted--I don't know--maybe three years?&nbsp; Got caught sever=
al times in hard rain.&nbsp; Next, I bought another cardboard shroud, but t=
his time I used the plastic from a garage sale shower wall.&nbsp; It lasted=
--I don't know--maybe five years, then cracked apart.&nbsp; <br clear=3D"no=
ne"></div>

<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51);"><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51);">While installing a new electric fan, I took the time while=
 I was in there to use the cardboard shroud to trace out a shroud using thi=
s time a floor mat I'd had around that goes underneath a chair on a hardwoo=
d floor (no little spikes on the bottom).&nbsp; In this heat, the floor mat=
 was entirely flexible and bent easily, though it won't at lower temps.&nbs=
p; Couple of screws to hold it down and done is done.<br clear=3D"none"></d=
iv>

<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51);"><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51);">Looking forward to seeing how it does.&nbsp; Gotta be bett=
er than cardboard.&nbsp; </div>

<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51);"><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51);">Meanwhile, with all these car mods, I'm thinking I could h=
ave been an engineer.&nbsp; Just needed two things:&nbsp; 1)&nbsp; more bra=
ins; and 3) more gray matter....<br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51);"><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51);">:o)<br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51);">Terry Smith, '59 TR3A<br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51);">New Hampshire<br clear=3D"none"></div>
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