Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 bypass hose question

From: "Jerry Van Vlack" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 14:51:06 -0400

You really don't need to block it off but if you want to do so use a 1/2" 
piece of wooden dowel stuck in the hose.
I'm not in Florida but I run a 180 thermo and no block off in the by-pass 
hose.
JVV

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From: Jim Henningsen
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Subject: [TR] TR4 bypass hose question

I would like to install a regular (non bellows) 160 degree thermostat in my
62 TR4.  I am hearing that to do so I need to block off the bypass hose.
I'd like to keep the stock look of the bypass hose installed.  Is there a
particular plug or bung that folks have used to insert into the bypass
opening on the water pump housing or thermostat housing that is effective.
Thanks in advance.
Jim Henningsen
Ocala, FL 34471

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From: Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 17:46:24 -0400

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How about a marble stuffed in the hose?

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<div dir=3D"auto">How about a marble stuffed in the hose?</div><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 19, 20=
19, 2:14 PM Jim Henningsen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">trguy75=
@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I would =
like to install a regular (non bellows) 160 degree thermostat in my<br>
62 TR4.=C2=A0 I am hearing that to do so I need to block off the bypass hos=
e.<br>
I&#39;d like to keep the stock look of the bypass hose installed.=C2=A0 Is =
there a<br>
particular plug or bung that folks have used to insert into the bypass<br>
opening on the water pump housing or thermostat housing that is effective.=
=C2=A0 <br>
Thanks in advance.<br>
Jim Henningsen<br>
Ocala, FL 34471<br>
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 18:34:14 -0500

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I think I used a 1/2=E2=80=9D copper cap that is meant to used with rigid co=
pper plumbing pipe. =20
Bill

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I think I used a 1/2=E2=80=9D copper cap th=
at is meant to used with rigid copper plumbing pipe. &nbsp;<div>Bill<br><br>=
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=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"auto">How about a marble stuffed in the hos=
e?</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr"=
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gmail.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
t:1ex">I would like to install a regular (non bellows) 160 degree thermostat=
 in my<br>
62 TR4.&nbsp; I am hearing that to do so I need to block off the bypass hose=
.<br>
I'd like to keep the stock look of the bypass hose installed.&nbsp; Is there=
 a<br>
particular plug or bung that folks have used to insert into the bypass<br>
opening on the water pump housing or thermostat housing that is effective.&n=
bsp; <br>
Thanks in advance.<br>
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From: Geo Hahn <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 16:46:49 -0700

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I used a copper cap (I think it was 3/4" - whatever is a snug fit in the
hose) with a hole drilled in it (possibly 3/16"):

Not as important on a TR4 as by then they had reduced the size of the
outlet for the bypass - but since I live and drive in the desert I tend to
do whatever might help.

Geo

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I used a copper cap (I think it was 3/4&quot; - whatever i=
s a snug fit in the hose) with a hole drilled in it (possibly 3/16&quot;):<=
div><br></div><div><div><img src=3D"cid:ii_juoq112r0" alt=3D"bypasshose.jpg=
" width=3D"517" height=3D"388"><br></div></div><div><br></div><div>Not as i=
mportant on a TR4 as by then they had reduced the size of the outlet for th=
e bypass - but since I live and drive in the desert I tend to do whatever m=
ight help.</div><div><br></div><div>Geo</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 11:14 =
AM Jim Henningsen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
m</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"=
>I would like to install a regular (non bellows) 160 degree thermostat in m=
y<br>
62 TR4.=C2=A0 I am hearing that to do so I need to block off the bypass hos=
e.<br>
I&#39;d like to keep the stock look of the bypass hose installed.=C2=A0 Is =
there a<br>
particular plug or bung that folks have used to insert into the bypass<br>
opening on the water pump housing or thermostat housing that is effective.=
=C2=A0 <br>
Thanks in advance.<br>
Jim Henningsen<br>
Ocala, FL 34471<br>
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From: Chris Simo <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 20:15:33 -0400

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I use a 72 Camaro 350 thermostat and stuck a random 1/4 inch Chinese socket
in the bypass hose to mostly block it off.

I should change the hose and socket. It's been really more than a few
years...

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<div dir=3D"auto">I use a 72 Camaro 350 thermostat and stuck a random 1/4 i=
nch Chinese socket in the bypass hose to mostly block it off.<div dir=3D"au=
to"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I should change the hose and socket. It&#39=
;s been really more than a few years...</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br><div dat=
a-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature" dir=3D"auto">Sent from my TRASH-80</div></d=
iv></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_att=
r">On Fri, Apr 19, 2019, 7:47 PM Geo Hahn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ahwahneetr@=
gmail.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I used a copper cap (I think it was 3/4&quot=
; - whatever is a snug fit in the hose) with a hole drilled in it (possibly=
 3/16&quot;):<div><br></div><div><div><img src=3D"cid:ii_juoq112r0" alt=3D"=
bypasshose.jpg" width=3D"517" height=3D"388"><br></div></div><div><br></div=
><div>Not as important on a TR4 as by then they had reduced the size of the=
 outlet for the bypass - but since I live and drive in the desert I tend to=
 do whatever might help.</div><div><br></div><div>Geo</div></div><br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 19, =
2019 at 11:14 AM Jim Henningsen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" ta=
rget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></di=
v><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;borde=
r-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I would like to install=
 a regular (non bellows) 160 degree thermostat in my<br>
62 TR4.=C2=A0 I am hearing that to do so I need to block off the bypass hos=
e.<br>
I&#39;d like to keep the stock look of the bypass hose installed.=C2=A0 Is =
there a<br>
particular plug or bung that folks have used to insert into the bypass<br>
opening on the water pump housing or thermostat housing that is effective.=
=C2=A0 <br>
Thanks in advance.<br>
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Jim, we've debated this often=2E Its my opinion that blocking the bypass is=
 not necessary, and may lead to unpleasant side effects (like a cracked hea=
d)=2E Even Triumph later deleted the sleeved thermostat=2E

So you might want to try leaving it open=2E

To answer your question, I've heard that a 3/4" copper pipe cap fits well =
in the hose=2E I chose a different route, and tapped the fitting on the wat=
er pump housing for a pipe plug=2E
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<html><head></head><body>Jim, we've debated this often=2E Its my opinion th=
at blocking the bypass is not necessary, and may lead to unpleasant side ef=
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ostat=2E<br><br>So you might want to try leaving it open=2E<br><br>To answe=
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<pre class=3D"k9mail">I would like to install a regular (non bellows) 160 =
degree thermostat in my<br>62 TR4=2E  I am hearing that to do so I need to =
block off the bypass hose=2E<br>I'd like to keep the stock look of the bypa=
ss hose installed=2E  Is there a<br>particular plug or bung that folks have=
 used to insert into the bypass<br>opening on the water pump housing or the=
rmostat housing that is effective=2E  <br>Thanks in advance=2E<br>Jim Henni=
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